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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big BpG on April 01, 2002, 04:18:09 PM
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My post is going to start at a time back in Febuary of 2000. It was the time the world got their first taste of Dogghouse Records. Tha Eastsidaz finally had faces and were lead by Snoop Dogg. It was a trio that stepped up for a challenge, but really didn't succeed to the fullest, but they showed something that no other artists were doing at the time. They were showing innovation.
When Tha Eastsidaz came out, there were mixed reactions all over the nation, the web, the music world and so on. It was an album that can be looked as a cinderella story, but the album brought something a lot of people weren't bringing and that is FUNK. With the superb beats by Battlecat and the lonesome cries of Kokane ring through the listeners ears, it's only time before your sucked into their new dimension. Tha Eastsidaz brought something fresh... a new sound, a re-invented sound to the liking of many. In fact as the music plays today, it sounds new, its sound is forgiving and lets us release all the energy we have been stuck with in most of rap.
Today the chapter continues. Yes, Doggy's Angels flopped, but the sound stayed. G-Funk or No-Funk. With new sounds of refreshing vocals over funky beats and catchy-hooks, it only looks like the label is headed in THEIR direction. They aren't following anybody's rules and giving people want they want to hear. They give the fans a choice.... like it or leave it... artists can be best described as artistic....of course. As the future looks, its looks like Dogghouse/Doggystyle is going to continue something. It looks like Meech Wells might be out of the picture, but time will only tell. Battlecat is still a strong canidate, but Fred Wreck might be their buttermilk. Fred has upped his ideas to a more futuristic sound that people want to label as "Dre." Yes, his sound is quite close to that of Dr. Dre's but its still funky and with a hint of techno. Something Knoc-Turn'al labeled as "Gangsta-Techno." It's the innovation to create and re-create that keeps longevitiy. They may not win the grammy's and they may not get the airplay, but they don't mind. It's just milk and honey. G-Funk, the era continues in this label.... DHGC-4-Life
My Two Cents
-Big BpG
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Nice piece homie....
I love Dogg House/Doggystyle shitt...
I have all lp's that have come outta the Dogg's house and will continue to support Snoop in any & everything he does.
Snoop Helped his homies outt, which I always liked the most about it.
(Shame he couldn't help out Daz tho....)
again...nice piece Bpg..
Peace
Hatesrats 2oo2
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Nice piece homie....
I love Dogg House/Doggystyle shitt...
I have all lp's that have come outta the Dogg's house and will continue to support Snoop in any & everything he does.
Snoop Helped his homies outt, which I always liked the most about it.
^^ I agree with all that up there...
But dont you think Snoop Dogg featuring Ja Rule... especially in these times... is a lil "giving people what they want"
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Yeah Baby!!!
Good shit homie.
G-Funk 4 Life! ;D
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snoop is tryin to cross over into that teeny market, everybody has to get paid. ja rule has probably gained alot more fans now cause of his 'singing' career.
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Battlecat is everything but not innovative.....his style is boring,repetitive and nothing great.
Fred wreck could be the main producer of dogghouse,the only one that can save the production style of snoop's label.
Battlecat? :P
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I agree with what you siad about they make their music the way they want it. I don't really think they are that innovative tho, IMO, the seem like the P-Funk, Bootsy Collins of our generation. Same kinda Funky songs, just havin fun and shit. That's all fine and good with me tho, cuz I Luuuuv It!!
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i dont know about yall but i want to hear alot more of that soopafly production..he is under used. we still dont know his full potential. take a listen to that beat he dropped for warren g-somethin to bounce 2
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Dogghouse needs to release more albums,not 1 or 2 a year, then nothing for another year.....
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Dogghouse needs to release more albums,not 1 or 2 a year, then nothing for another year.....
back that up.
list the gaps... maybe you're missing something.
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One thing is sure Doggystyle Records has a good production team. It's time that Snoop's label release some new heaters.
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It looks like Meech Wells might be out of the picture, but time will only tell.
Why? wassup with meech?
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i think BattleCat can come real tight sometimes.. i dont think he is booring.. 8)
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Dogghouse is dope and all, but the most innovative label? C'mon now, yea their beats are usually tight and their rappers are decent, but its still the same old gangsta gangsta shit ive been hearing since way back. In fact, duces and trayz was one of the most unoriginal albums of 2001 content-wise.
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i know we havnt heard from meech in awhile but he is still makin beats...about a week back, snoop was on carson daily show on nbc and snoop said he was using meech for his paid the cost....album...i think meech is dope indeed, he made the beat for still a g thing and pleezbaleevit one of the best snoop beats ever.
i agree w/ BPG tha dogghouse is in full effizzect...just wait, i think E.White could play a major role in snoop's career and westcoast rap...i got a good feeling about this cat...only time will tell tho... ;D
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Why? wassup with meech?
We really haven't heard a good amount of Meech since Tha Last Meal. I remember he had some family trouble during the Puff Puff Pass Tour and wasn't really around. Then we've heard rumors that he is off doing his own thing. He was my favorite producer during Snoop's No Limit days. Only time will tell.
-Big BpG
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^look at my pic nuff said!!!!!
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just wondering....how was phoenix?
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Phoenix was good... shit i forgot to watch that snoop show with carson... ah well....they'll repeat it soon... i did a lot down there.... it was cool, a great break
-Big BpG
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Duces n Trayz was really wack,their first album was really bangin (but in no way innovative),with the second album they flop,now their latest song (crip a fied?)is tight as fuck and MUST BE the first single for their next album,is 100 times better than I LUV IT,i cant stand no more battlecat.
La toya williams maybe will be out in 2015,kokane and the others....2030!
Snoop is and always will be my favorite rapper,but with is label his toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
lazy. :(
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"When Tha Eastsidaz came out, there were mixed reactions all over the nation, the web, the music world and so on."
Some west coast hip hop fans were mad at it,but the whole music world......no.
Fred wreck must be the main producer of Dogghouse,i'd like to see some dogghouse's albums produced only by fred wreck:
Tha Eastsidaz-Bad Azz-E white-Snoop dogg.
He can put out the best from them,he will be produced only 2 tracks for snoops new album,and its sad.
If Fred leaves dogghouse,is the end of snoop's label, speaking about the production side.
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that will never happen reesrevo, there will always be more producers then only fred wreck. Atleast i hope so, otherwise shit will get bored. The production team they got is tight, they must keep it that way. Atleast thats my opinion.
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if only more people on this board could think like this fo a minute the would realise something, nice two cents homeboy , i like that idea
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Phoenix was good... shit i forgot to watch that snoop show with carson... ah well....they'll repeat it soon... i did a lot down there.... it was cool, a great break
-Big BpG
BP.. I pretty much agree with you. No need for me to put my two cents in.. cuz theres no denying that I am and always will be a Snoop fan. I felt both albums.
But what's dope is how you put this post together.. no "one sided" shit. Props.
It's the innovation to create and re-create that keeps longevitiy.
WORD!
That's the shit that hit me homie! I couldn't agree more.. Pz.
Ax
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I am and always will be a Snoop fan too,but i'm not always down with him and his choice like some dickryders of this forum(slickafella n.1).
I still think that duces n trayz is one of the worst albums of 2001,battlecat beats on that album aren't innovative,fred wreck's beats nothing special and meech wells comes tight only in 1 track(Now is the time).
The tightest beat on the album is "Now is The Time",and i think is also the best track off duces n trayz.
Imagine snoop over a beat like that,on a solo joint.....
i love to death the first eastsidaz album and today is one of my favorite albums,but their second work sucks a lot.
SO LOW is one of the most pathetic songs ever!!!!
I am and always will be a Snoop fan,but he sucks in songs like So Low and I pledge allegiance.
About his producers....i still believe he don't needs battlecat no more!
Last thing.....i don0t understand why dr.dre hasn't produced a god damn song for tha eastsidaz or others dogghouse members....he make beats for mack 10,and what about Eastsidaz and bad azz ?????? ::) ::)
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Meech Wells produced 2 traccs on the album :so Low w/lil mo and now is the time
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Meech Wells produced 2 traccs on the album :so Low w/lil mo and now is the time
You are blind?
This is what i've said:
"meech wells comes tight only in 1 track"
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I am and always will be a Snoop fan too,but i'm not always down with him and his choice like some dickryders of this forum(slickafella n.1).
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who the fuck are you, i don't know you, sodon't talk shit to me homeboy
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Don't worry Pippafella/Slippavelli,i know you...i know you...also on westcoastboard.cjb.net people know you are a big snoop dickryder..... :D :D :D (on that board they call you 'Cockafella!!ah ah)
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Don't worry Pippafella,i know you...i know you...also on westcoastboard.cjb.net people know you are a big snoop dickryder..... :D :D :D (on that board they call you 'Cockafella!!ah ah)
I THINK U SHOULD EASE UP HOMIE...U DONT NEED TO COME IN TALKIN TO OTHER PEOPLE...REPLY TO THE THREAD , NOT TO SOMEONE ELSE...
ARE YOU A JAY Z DICKRYDER? COCKAFELLA???
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I'd like to hear more tracks with lt hutton,jelly roll,scott torch....these are tight producers,battlecat is just boring.
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I'd like to hear more tracks with lt hutton,jelly roll,scott torch....these are tight producers,battlecat is just boring.
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, THERE YOU GO ;D
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Blaqtoven too!
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Doggystyle will never be short of tight beats with BC, Fredwreck and Jelly Roll. It's just too bad Meech Wells has bounced.
What I think Snoop needs to do is cut the roster down to 10 heads or fewer, like Dre has done with Aftermath. He's got too many people on that label, and doesn't know what to put out.
Peace
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Why Dr dre gives beats to mack 10 and others but don't give a fuck about eastsidaz,bad azz and co.?
Snoop "must be" on every dre album,on every aftermath project,but dre don't give a fuck about snoop's label,and its sad.
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Doggystyle will never be short of tight beats with BC, Fredwreck and Jelly Roll. It's just too bad Meech Wells has bounced.
What I think Snoop needs to do is cut the roster down to 10 heads or fewer, like Dre has done with Aftermath. He's got too many people on that label, and doesn't know what to put out.
Peace
Unfortunately Jelly roll isn't on doggystyle records,same thing for scott torch.....but they're down with snoop,but i can't understand why snoop insists to use battlecat so much.
I agree with Incognito,snoop needs to cut his roster....use more soopafly behind the boards instead of battlecat.
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Don't worry Pippafella/Slippavelli,i know you...i know you...also on westcoastboard.cjb.net people know you are a big snoop dickryder..... :D :D :D (on that board they call you 'Cockafella!!ah ah)
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I still don't get all of this hype behind Dre. He's okay but his beats are more boring than Battlecat's to me. I haven't liked anything Dre has produced since ''Lay Low'', but Battlecat came correct on ''You ain't fuckin' with me'' off of ''Genesis''. Snoop needs to use Soopafly and Jellyroll more, and possibly even Daz & Quik. That's just my opinion tho.
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I respect your opinion,but you can't compare dr dre to battlecat ....its like compare a lamborghini diablo with a pegeout 306
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I respect your opinion,but you can't compare dr dre to battlecat ....its like compare a lamborghini diablo with a pegeout 306
Lmao, good Italian comparison there.
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when i first started to listen battlecat beats cuz of the hype of him, i use to think why the fuck every rapper out their thinks his beats be dope?? but then i started to listen more of him n now i just love his beats, his shits consistant n addictive as fuck n i like the way its his own style instead of biting some nxts man style, n plus he got funk on his beats. id rather have battlecat any day over someone whos major hyped like timbaland for any west coast albums.
but yeah doggystyle needs to cut down abit n so they can spend more time promotin the few cats they have in my opinion
peace
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Battlecat is not on Doggystyle he's down wit them but anywayz Doggystyle Records got the Best production team
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dogghouse has one of the best production crews in rap music, and have a couple of entertaining rappers, and could easily get ANNNNNNNNYONE they want on their records (i.e anyone from someone as underground as alchemist and mobb deep to pop rap dudes like ja rule and everyone in between)
BUT i wouldn't say they are the most innovative, i mean they bring a whole new sound to the whole cheesy computerised simplistic irv gotti shit
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They bring something new... funk... it really took off with Chronic, Doggystyle and G-Funk Era... its the funk... since then it's gone... Dre doesn't produce funky much anymore... however Snoop and his crew is dropping it. Thats my point. The only other mainstream crew I can think that brings funk is Outkast/Dungeon Family ... and to be honest, I love their shit. Yea it may not be accepted from the media, but fuck the media. Kokane Hooks, Suga Free verses and Battlecat beats, now tell me, who wouldn't wanna listen to that shit. Suga Free is dope with one-liners and shit, he's the only mutha fucka that makes me laugh during a rap song. Snoop is getting laid back and shit, I respect that, he's only creating... doing what he feels... why bring what everyone else is. Instead bring some G-Funked out music and let me relax to that shit, or put it in my ride while I hit the intersection while the fool next to me wonders what the fuck I'm listening to... listening to DOGGHOUSE MUTHA FUCKING RECORDS... if you aint down, youz a clown... so funky it makes you say ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
-Big BpG
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To be honest with you,there are cats like Redman and Epmd that bring the funk on every album,dipends what you mean for funk.
Now Fred wreck "comes out" with the Electro funk(nothing new),personally i still believe that Epmd are the shit regard funk and hip hop music.