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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 04, 2005, 01:13:10 PM
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wrote a lyric?
Other then the few he did on The Chronic.
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I dont think he wrote anything on the Chronic but he did I think he wrote his shit on EFIL4ZAGGIN...
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i think it was Ren who said that Dre actually used to write shit for himself and others in the early days. i know that Ren said that Dre used to write shit but i don´t remember in which interview he said it ???
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I think what he does is he has people write it for him and then he switches it up a lil and adds some shit
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He probably writes less now than when he started but he's more than likely still heavily involved in the writing process.
When it was time to do Deep Cover, Dre brought Snoop to his house and they were going to write but it was late so they just went to sleep (not together), then in the morning Dre went down to Snoop told him the hook (tonight's the night I get in some shit, deep cover on that incognito tip) and told him to have the track done by the time he was back from the gym.
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I think what he does is he has people write it for him and then he switches it up a lil and adds some shit
naw, he talked about the song writing process on the Westwood show with Mel Man in 2000 and he said that he sits down with whoever´s gonna write a certain song and talks about concepts and shit for the song. and then they´ll write something after havin a discussion with him about what they should write about and then they´ll hand over the lyrics and he´ll tell them what should be changed and what could be phrased better or whatever.
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I think what he does is he has people write it for him and then he switches it up a lil and adds some shit
naw, he talked about the song writing process on the Westwood show with Mel Man in 2000 and he said that he sits down with whoever´s gonna write a certain song and talks about concepts and shit for the song. and then they´ll write something after havin a discussion with him about what they should write about and then they´ll hand over the lyrics and he´ll tell them what should be changed and what could be phrased better or whatever.
okay.... that's basically what I said but whatever ;D
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I dont think he wrote anything on the Chronic but he did I think he wrote his shit on EFIL4ZAGGIN...
the d.o.c. wrote dre's shit for the greatest album of all time, aka efil4zaggin.
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I think what he does is he has people write it for him and then he switches it up a lil and adds some shit
naw, he talked about the song writing process on the Westwood show with Mel Man in 2000 and he said that he sits down with whoever´s gonna write a certain song and talks about concepts and shit for the song. and then they´ll write something after havin a discussion with him about what they should write about and then they´ll hand over the lyrics and he´ll tell them what should be changed and what could be phrased better or whatever.
okay.... that's basically what I said but whatever ;D
it´s a pretty big difference actually but whatever :)
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He wrote the last song on Chronic 2001, I think it was called The message? The one with Mary J on it. But it's a bit ironic that he wrote the lyrics to it, but didn't produce it.
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He wrote the last song on Chronic 2001, I think it was called The message? The one with Mary J on it. But it's a bit ironic that he wrote the lyrics to it, but didn't produce it.
Royce wrote The Message........
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He wrote the last song on Chronic 2001, I think it was called The message? The one with Mary J on it. But it's a bit ironic that he wrote the lyrics to it, but didn't produce it.
Royce the 5'9 wrote that shit lol....its ironic beacuse its about his own brother that died...
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i heared he wrote some shit for eazy for eazy duz it
he def did some writing in the 80's but nuthin for his solos
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I heard that he wrote for himself and some for Eazy on efil4zaggin...Ren said that in an interview
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He probably writes less now than when he started but he's more than likely still heavily involved in the writing process.
When it was time to do Deep Cover, Dre brought Snoop to his house and they were going to write but it was late so they just went to sleep (not together), then in the morning Dre went down to Snoop told him the hook (tonight's the night I get in some shit, deep cover on that incognito tip) and told him to have the track done by the time he was back from the gym.
Damn, that's on some house negro type shit.
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He probably writes less now than when he started but he's more than likely still heavily involved in the writing process.
When it was time to do Deep Cover, Dre brought Snoop to his house and they were going to write but it was late so they just went to sleep (not together), then in the morning Dre went down to Snoop told him the hook (tonight's the night I get in some shit, deep cover on that incognito tip) and told him to have the track done by the time he was back from the gym.
Damn, that's on some house negro type shit.
Sound like Snoop was Dre's bitch. No wonder they ain't that close anymore. :laugh:
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(http://students.washington.edu/yoroj/images/ladies/alizee.gif)
damn that bitch is fine son...
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Who's That Girl?
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Who's That Girl?
la la la la la la la la la la Eves that girl.
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I heard that he wrote for himself and some for Eazy on efil4zaggin...Ren said that in an interview
every article about the d.o.c. mentions that he wrote dre and eazy's lyrics on efil4zaggin. i won't even call it ghostwriting seeing as he has writers credits for almost every song except the mc ren solo "she swallowed it" and "prelude".
[after double checking]
"real niggaz" (originally off 100 miles and running) and "findum, fuckum and flee" are the only songs dre appears on that the d.o.c. does not get writers credit for. [and also eazy e's "i'd rather fuck you" which dre may have written] interestingly, only dre and the d.o.c. get writers credits for "one less bitch", although ren also appears on the track. i think it's clear that the d.o.c. wrote the overwhelming majority of dre's lyrics on efil4zaggin. "
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(http://students.washington.edu/yoroj/images/ladies/alizee.gif)
:banana_hitit:
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Who's That Girl?
la la la la la la la la la la Eves that girl.
lol.
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(http://students.washington.edu/yoroj/images/ladies/alizee.gif)
:banana_hitit:
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damn that bitch is bangin
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ThaFormula.com - But in between all this you all did the "100 Miles and Runnin'" EP and you knew now that it was your time to step up. How did you feel about that?
MC Ren - When that nigga left, I knew I had to pick my shit up 'cause Dre wasn't really no rapper. He wasn't really no hell of a rapper back then and shit. He just would fill in. But when Cube left he started rapping more, but I always knew I had to pick it up. I was writing my shit, Eric's shit, Dre was helping write Eric shit, 'cause when Cube left we still had me, D.O.C. and Dre.
ThaFormula.com - So Dre actually wrote his shit?
MC Ren - Yeah, he wrote some of his shit. He write some of his shit and some of his shit he don't write. You can tell shit he writes. D.O.C. would write a lot of Dre's shit too. You could tell when you hear a lot of Dre shit if DOC wrote it.
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Dre gets writing credits from time to time, so I'm guessing he co-writes some times, probably just adding lines and sentences, and possibly hooks..
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Who's That Girl?
Alizee
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Who's That Girl?
Alizee
Je m'appelle Lolita... Lo ou bien Lola, du pareil au même... Moi je m'appelle Lolita!
Damn. We've got a topic to stick to, guys!
Anyways, one thing I find strange about Dre not writing his own shit anymore... He wasn't even a bad writer... Just not amazing. It's not like the songs he wrote by himself weren't classics or anything.
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Personally, I think you can tell who wrote the song usually by the lyrics pretty easily. Dre has a certain style, he definitely used to write some of his own stuff back then. On the Chronic, you can hear Snoop & the D.O.C.'s type of lyrics all over the place, but some are just Dreish. Then on some of the newer stuff, you can tell Eminem wrote it, or whatever just the way it's structured and the way it rhymes.
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^^
I've noticed a bunch of times when listening to songs that those written by Em do sound different, but could you give an example what sounds particularly "Dreish"?
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Well, think about it. You know what kind of a person Dre is, and you know what kind of a person Snoop was, and the D.O.C. was.
Let Me Ride -
"just another motherfuckin day for Dre so I begin like this
No medallions, dreadlocks, or black fists it's just
that gangster glare, with gangster raps
that gangster shit, that makes the gang of snaps, uhh"
or whatever.... sounds just like Snoop's flow. Snoop likely wrote it.
or something like
The Day The Niggaz Took Over
"Sittin in my livin room calm and collected
Feelin mad, gotta get mine respected
cuz what I just heard broke me in half
and half the niggaz I know, plus the niggaz on the Row, is bailin
Laugh now but cry much later
Ya see when niggas get together they get mad cuz they can't fade us
Like my niggas from South Central, Los Angeles
They find that they couldn't handle us"
You can almost see that the first few lines were probably written by RBX and the last few lines look like something Snoop Dogg would write.
check out "Bitches Ain't Shit"
"Peep, the shit got deep and it was on
Number 1 song after number 1 song
Long as my muthafuckin' pockets was fat
I didn't give a fuck where the bitch was at
But she was hangin' with a white bitch doin' the shit she do
Suckin' on his dick just to get a buck or 2
And the few ends she got didn't mean nothin'
Now she's suing cuz the shit she be doin' ain't shit
Bitch can't hang with the streets, she found herself short
So now she's takin' me to court
It's real conversation for your ass
So recognize and pass to Daz "
Sounds like Kurupt bigger than shit to me. I'd bet money Kurupt wrote that. It's his style of flow, his style of lyrics, everything.
Check out
"Nigga wit a gun"
"44 reasons come to mind
Why your muthafuckin' brothas hard to find.
He be walkin' on the streets and fuckin' with mine.
Stupid punk can't fuck with a mastermind.
See I never take a step on a Compton block
Or LA without the AK ready to pop.
'Cause them punk muthafuckas in black and white
Ain't the only muthafuckas I gots to fight.
I think it's better to retellin' the facts than cuffed up
And jacked and fucked up.
What you niggas lookin at? You do in...
Goddamn, 'cause it's the city.
And for a youth to survive a nigga gotta be a gangster.
And I'm a nigga you can't remove.
Took out a lot of muthafuckas for tryin' to prove
To their homies they can hang by dealin' with me.
But once again in the end they D-E-A-D."
Doesn't sound like Kurupt to me... Doesn't sound like Snoop at ALL. Doesn't sound like RBX... doesn't sound like the d.o.c. Just sounds DRE. It's got Dre's style all over it, see how he keeps saying the word "Punk"... Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, DOC, RBX, they never say "Punk", it's a Dre thing. Look @ how he loses the rhyme scheme on purpose towards the end... "What you niggas lookin at, you doin'... Goddamn, cause it's the city" Doesn't even rhyme, he does that a lot, just drops into a statement, because he has a harder flow than Snoop or Kurupt or the DOC or Daz... Dre sounds like a bad motherfucker when he raps, so sometimes he just drops off rhyme and says something like the tough guy he is. Also notice the rhyme scheme is pretty simple, with hardly any analogies or anything, just simplistic, old school style posing and bragging. Dre wrote that.
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^Nice post. Your shit was on point. I would also bet money with you that kurupt wrote dre's verse on 'bitches aint shit'. That That would be the verse I would be most certain about. Propz
I going to listen to the chronic now. 8)
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^Nice post. Your shit was on point. I would also bet money with you that kurupt wrote dre's verse on 'bitches aint shit'. That That would be the verse I would be most certain about. Propz
I going to listen to the chronic now. 8)
yeah im 100% kurupt wrote that...has his name all over it.
but yo Truama ur post makes me wanna listen to the chronic thanks homie 8)
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But shit like this line from Dre on "Ask Yourself A Question" sound alot of Dre-ish
"What the fuck is up? Man life's a bitch
You gotta put your pistol to the sky,
kill a million motherfuckers and get high
in order to be cool, man you'se a motherfucking fool"
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But shit like this line from Dre on "Ask Yourself A Question" sound alot of Dre-ish
"What the fuck is up? Man life's a bitch
You gotta put your pistol to the sky,
kill a million motherfuckers and get high
in order to be cool, man you'se a motherfucking fool"
hahahaha... these lyrics man.. ooooweee, no wonder Dre should stick to producing.
And leave the lyric-part to.. yeah, everybody else cause we can't stand another pair of these rhymes! !
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For 'Let Me Ride', both Snoop and RBX get credit but it seems that it actually was RBX who wrote most of it. I gotta say that the rhymes of that track come across as a bit too complex for a Snoop rhyme while RBX has also said he wrote the thing ( 'Let them ride,cause I wrote that for Dre...(('Out wit da Old',from 'No Mercy, No Remorse')) Perhaps Snoop just did the chorus or some checking over the rhymes?
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One of the most obvious ones was "The Watcher II", where Dre's verse was written by Rakim.
Anyone know who wrote his verse on "U Know"? Come to think of it, I'm not sure who write his shit on "California Love". Maybe Dre himself...
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course hes wrote but its known that hes not a great writer
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One of the most obvious ones was "The Watcher II", where Dre's verse was written by Rakim.
Anyone know who wrote his verse on "U Know"? Come to think of it, I'm not sure who write his shit on "California Love". Maybe Dre himself...
i think xzibit wrote dre's part in u know(not 100% sure)
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dre wrote his own verses for the watcher (pt 1) and those were his best lyrics on the whole cd, so yall mothafuckas talkin shit that dre cant rap need to shut up
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The chronic was written by RBX,DOC,snoop,and co.wrote by daz.
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ThaFormula.com - But in between all this you all did the "100 Miles and Runnin'" EP and you knew now that it was your time to step up. How did you feel about that?
MC Ren - When that nigga left, I knew I had to pick my shit up 'cause Dre wasn't really no rapper. He wasn't really no hell of a rapper back then and shit. He just would fill in. But when Cube left he started rapping more, but I always knew I had to pick it up. I was writing my shit, Eric's shit, Dre was helping write Eric shit, 'cause when Cube left we still had me, D.O.C. and Dre.
ThaFormula.com - So Dre actually wrote his shit?
MC Ren - Yeah, he wrote some of his shit. He write some of his shit and some of his shit he don't write. You can tell shit he writes. D.O.C. would write a lot of Dre's shit too. You could tell when you hear a lot of Dre shit if DOC wrote it.
but dre said long time ago that he wrote for his self on alot of the early stuff.................but the Chronic, NO!!!rattat tat was written by RBX.deep cover was written byRBX,and Snoop......let me ride, written all by RBX.dre stoped written back in 92..........but i do remember this read homie.....good look.
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ThaFormula.com - But in between all this you all did the "100 Miles and Runnin'" EP and you knew now that it was your time to step up. How did you feel about that?
MC Ren - When that nigga left, I knew I had to pick my shit up 'cause Dre wasn't really no rapper. He wasn't really no hell of a rapper back then and shit. He just would fill in. But when Cube left he started rapping more, but I always knew I had to pick it up. I was writing my shit, Eric's shit, Dre was helping write Eric shit, 'cause when Cube left we still had me, D.O.C. and Dre.
ThaFormula.com - So Dre actually wrote his shit?
MC Ren - Yeah, he wrote some of his shit. He write some of his shit and some of his shit he don't write. You can tell shit he writes. D.O.C. would write a lot of Dre's shit too. You could tell when you hear a lot of Dre shit if DOC wrote it.
but dre said long time ago that he wrote for his self on alot of the early stuff.................but the Chronic, NO!!!rattat tat was written by RBX.deep cover was written byRBX,and Snoop......let me ride, written all by RBX.dre stoped written back in 92..........but i do remember this read homie.....good look.
rbx is a class lyricist and doesnt get the recognition he deserves, same with daz hes a really good writer(wrote murder was the case by snoop)
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you know!
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Trauma pointed out "A Nigga Witta Gun"...that is the most obvious example of how Dre writes/raps. He has pretty much no flow; he kinda stumbles through simple rhymes and offers nothing but posturing in lieu of any clever wordplay or metaphors, unlike just about any other rapper he works with. As soon as his lyrics start getting to be a little more clever and a little more advanced in rhyme schemes and cadence structure, you know somebody else wrote it.
Dre is an amazing producer, but as a rapper, come on...any of ya'll that think he's at all talented need some SERIOUS chin-checkin'. There's a good reason Dre prefers to avoid rapping whenever possible (and why his albums have other MCs' rapping as much as he does), and why his style always sounds so much like that of whoever's rapping with him (like on "Forgot About Dre"...come on now).
same with daz hes a really good writer(wrote murder was the case by snoop)
Huh? Since when? Just because he played the devil on that song doesn't mean he wrote it all. And Daz isn't nearly as good a rapper as Snoop - his flow sounds nothing like Snoop's.
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i never said hes a better rapper than snoop or got a similar flow
i read sumwhere that daz wrote the majority of that song , can any1 confirm this
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Dr. Dre wrote lyrics for the following albums: Eazier Said Than Dunn, Straight Outta Compton, Efil4Zaggin, Musical Madness (Jimmy Z.) Michel'le's first album, The Chronic, and maybe a few others. Thats just off the top of my head. However, Dre does make adjustments and tweaks to lyrics when supplied by another writer.
When you see Andre Young in the writing credits it does not necessarily mean he contributed to the lyrics. This publishing credit is most likely for compositional and arranging duties (the music).