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Title: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: P Nelson on December 12, 2005, 07:01:51 PM
Angle got a good heat from the crowd, they seemed to hate him tonight! Angle Def Ric Flair, so Flair will be on the Elimination Chamber Match @ New Years Revolution for the WWE title

Shelton Benjamin's persona is getting interesting... He lost again Carlito but I feel like something interesting is about to happen. Carlito is also in the Elimination Chamber

HBK def... Big Show by disqualification... Big show had beef with HHH, so Triple H gave Shawn Michael a chairshot and got the Big Show losing by DQ lol smart ass! HHH vs Big Show coming soon but for now, HBK is on the Elimination Chamber Match...

Candice Michelle is sexy, VERY sexy! :o

Who will be the New GM? Ive seen pics of Dusty Rhodes @ wwe.com, I hope it wasnt a spoiler, what a boring guy to be a GM

O and It's Tajiri's last Raw...
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Macaframa on December 12, 2005, 07:03:41 PM
wow ur avator scares me  :-\
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: P Nelson on December 12, 2005, 07:10:13 PM
wow ur avator scares me  :-\

LOL  :D

Chris Masters Defeated Big Vis and will also compete in the Elimination Chamber, coming up next...

Triple H Vs The Big Show .. o boy!
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: $do11a biLL$ on December 12, 2005, 07:38:17 PM
Carlito and Chris Masters shouldn't be getting this big of a push already.. the chamber would be more entertaining with Flair and Big Show in it.
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Post by: herpes on December 12, 2005, 07:38:53 PM
the crowd must of been dead for that masters and big vis match lol.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 12, 2005, 07:57:42 PM
This main event is wack. Davari is a dope wrestler though.
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on December 12, 2005, 08:09:10 PM
Carlito and Chris Masters shouldn't be getting this big of a push already.. the chamber would be more entertaining with Flair and Big Show in it.

i doubt flair's body would be able to take the punishment in the chamber
then again, he was able to survive a screwdriver to the head so who knoz lol

as for te GM, who does everything it will be?
from wut ive heard, itz Dusty Rhodes...ne1 hear/read nethin other rumours regardin it?
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 12, 2005, 09:27:11 PM
It was an o.k. show.  No Maria though :( 

Didn't yall think Mickie was cool tonight?  I hadn't seen a close up of her yet, she looks hot.  Her little promo was good, too.  I'd fuck her.  LOL
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on December 13, 2005, 12:42:30 PM
hell yeah she looked hot on raw!

masters and vis sent me to sleep good job i have sky plus and can record things
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Perfection on December 13, 2005, 05:52:21 PM
It was an o.k. show.  No Maria though :( 

It was great that the talentless annoying voice slut known as Maria wasn't on Raw. It meant more TV to women with talent like Trish, Mickie, & Victoria. Would've been better if Candice didn't show her face on Raw. Candice needs to go back to making pornos cause she has no business being anywhere near a WWE event.


I'm thinking Dusty Rhodes will end up being the new GM of Raw
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2005, 05:55:30 PM
It's too bad a Maria segment didnt replace that Masterpiece match.
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Post by: Perfection on December 13, 2005, 06:08:26 PM
It's too bad a Maria segment didnt replace that Masterpiece match.

So you actually like those annoying segments known as the Maria interview? She has no business being anywhere near a WWE event
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2005, 06:16:15 PM
For 2 reasons  ;D
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Perfection on December 13, 2005, 09:04:51 PM
For 2 reasons  ;D

Those 2 reasons are good enough reasons for her to be on TV instead of a diva who looks better than her & actually serves a purpose being on Raw
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2005, 11:51:18 PM
Well I don't think she would be in the company if that weren't true. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: P Nelson on December 14, 2005, 07:21:25 AM
I'm confused... what are the 2 reasons?!
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: AlerG on December 14, 2005, 12:06:16 PM
i'm guessing here tits and ass, peace.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 14, 2005, 12:19:33 PM
Her generosity and personality of course
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Post by: westkoastanostra on December 14, 2005, 02:42:56 PM
^^^ that boogieman dude is freaking me out man!
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Post by: westkoastanostra on December 14, 2005, 02:45:07 PM
lmao when cena said "half of the ppl think i suck" and lmao at davari getting bitch slapped and speaking arab afterwards lol
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Post by: Perfection on December 14, 2005, 08:21:25 PM
Well I don't think she would be in the company if that weren't true. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

The only reason she still has a job that no talent slut is because her & Candice must know something about Vince that Vince doesn't want to be made public because there is absolutely no fucking reason why those 2 sluts should be any where near a WWE event. Maria is an interviewer, yet her voice is worse than nails on a chalkbroad & she has no interest in being a wrestler. So she's useless. Candice's voice is just like Maria's & Candice like Maria is only there for the money & has no interest in wrestling. So she's serves no purpose being there. Or Maybe Stephanie just likes having women on in the WWE who are bigger sluts, more annoying voices, & less wrestling skills & knowledge than she has.

No one can come up with any good reasons as to why Candice & Maria should be employed by WWE. WWE could find hundreds of women who look better, who's voices aren't annoying, & who can wrestle.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 14, 2005, 11:36:26 PM
Geez dude, relax. You sound so bitter lol. I really doubt they have anything on Vince, that's a crazy assumption. The reason they're there is simple: they're hot piece of ass. Candice Michelle is there for bringing publicity from her Godaddy.com "fame", and part of Maria's character is being annoying. Most importantly, though, they're there to sell calendars & magazines.

They'll probably both be gone by Wrestlemania so just be patient.
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Post by: westkoastanostra on December 15, 2005, 12:33:42 AM
shit i can give a fuck if their talentless....its the hotness that counts....i'd rather c a talentless hot diva than a talented he/she in the ring (jazz)
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 15, 2005, 01:18:44 AM
You can either have talentless Maria or talentless Coach....who would you prefer?
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 15, 2005, 06:38:01 AM
The thing that gets me about these little net kids is they don't even know these people.  They know the characters they portray. 


Maybe Maria's there because she's a really nice person.  Maybe she's an hour early to work everyday.  Maybe she sets up the ring.  LOL. 

The point is, you don't fucking know.  Maybe Trish is the biggest bitch alive on the face of the planet and she beats the shit out of the other women in the lockerroom.

LOL

Obviously the reason Maria is there is because 1. she's hot as hell, and 2. she must get along well with the other employees including Vince and all the road agents. 

Calling her a slut is fucking funny, she's only been there a few months and hasn't done anything slutty yet. 

The funniest thing she did was when she was interviewing Mick Foley about his PPV match, they were talking about which character he was going to be, and when the camera backed out, Maria had the Mankind mask on and this big stupid grin on her face.  That was worth the price of admission that night.
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Post by: Perfection on December 15, 2005, 10:43:30 AM
shit i can give a fuck if their talentless....its the hotness that counts....i'd rather c a talentless hot diva than a talented he/she in the ring (jazz)

WWE got rid of Jackie Gadya who has talent instead of getting rid of Maria. WWE got rid of Christy Hemme instead of Maria & Candice. Christy Hemme was trying to become a wrestler. There are tons of divas in OVW & DSW who look better than Maira & can actaully wrestle. You telling me that the WWE can justify having Maria on the main roster while other divas in OVW & DSW who have worked there asses aren't being considered to be brought up to the main roster?

Like I said before, there are no good reasons as to why Maria or Candice should be anywhere near a WWE event. At least other women involved in the diva searches wanted to become wrestlers & are training to become wrestlers (Ashley, Christy, Michelle McCool, & Elisabeth). Maria & Candice are just there for the money & that's it. WWE is acting like it's something new that Candice is going to be in Playboy, but it's not. She's already been in Playboy & she's been in a porno. It's nothing new here, everyone knows she's a slut. J.R. saying in one of his Ross Reports that people would besurprised by who the next diva in Playboy will be. How is it surprising that someone who has already been in Playboy & a porno would be posing for Playboy again? Complete BS on the part of the WWE how they're giving Candice more TV time than Victoria. Victoria who by the way has said she would pose for Playboy if asked to pose.
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 15, 2005, 04:23:10 PM
^ You don't know any of those people.  You have no idea why they keep or fire who they keep or fire, you just speculate on it, or at best believe what some ring rat writes about it.  Maybe Christy had bad body odor.  How would you know?  She probably smells like shit all the time, and they got tired of it.  Maybe Jackie has a bad drinking problem.

YOU DO NOT KNOW.  QUIT THINKING YOU DO. 
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Perfection on December 15, 2005, 05:00:59 PM
^^Seriously why are you sticking up for Maria & Candice? A real wrestling fan wouldn't want talentless people who have no interest in wrestling being apart of the show & taking away TV from people who have talent & have an interest in wrestling. OVW & DSW have tons of divas who could do a better job than Maria & Candice & would serve a purpose cause they can actually wrestle.

By the way the reason they got rid of Jackie was because she spoke her mind in the back, & she was fired for it. Christy Hemme was released due to her salary. Those 2 were well liked in the back & this is coming from interviews with the wrestlers when asked about the 2.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 15, 2005, 05:29:29 PM
^^Seriously why are you sticking up for Maria & Candice? A real wrestling fan wouldn't want talentless people who have no interest in wrestling being apart of the show & taking away TV from people who have talent & have an interest in wrestling. OVW & DSW have tons of divas who could do a better job than Maria & Candice & would serve a purpose cause they can actually wrestle.

By the way the reason they got rid of Jackie was because she spoke her mind in the back, & she was fired for it. Christy Hemme was released due to her salary. Those 2 were well liked in the back & this is coming from interviews with the wrestlers when asked about the 2.

C'mon man, stop kidding yourself. They're there because they sell calendars. Especially Candice, since she's got a proven track record to sell magazine covers.

The reason Jackie probably got fired was because she looks like she could have a dick. Victoria is suspect too. I bet if I was a reporter for PWInsider and I made a rumor with the headline "Jackie & Victoria Have Dicks", you would believe it. You really do not know Maria or Candice or how they really are in person. For all you know what you read could be a bias account from another diva that hates them and wants them fired.

Another thing, you act like Jackie getting fired for speaking her mind is such a bad thing. If you work in a company and started bitching about how your boss is an idiot and he find out you said it, what do you expect him to do? Just ignore it and give her the opportunity to gain support and in no time every employee is against you? McMahon rules with an iron face, he;s been doing it for 20+ years. Every employee knows that if you dont do something right, he will fire your ass and replace you in an instant. I bet after he fired Jackie he didn't have a problem with some spoiled bitch mouthing off about his product anymore.

You call yourself a true wrestling fan, but fact of the matter is I question that. I only see you complain about wrestling and how it could be better. How about writing something positive about it if you really like it. A true fan finds wrestling enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with everything that I see in the WWE, but I enjoy watching the wrestling AND the attractive women they put on TV.

Like I said, I'd rather have a talentless Maria than a talentless Coach on TV anyday.
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Perfection on December 15, 2005, 11:21:06 PM
^^Seriously why are you sticking up for Maria & Candice? A real wrestling fan wouldn't want talentless people who have no interest in wrestling being apart of the show & taking away TV from people who have talent & have an interest in wrestling. OVW & DSW have tons of divas who could do a better job than Maria & Candice & would serve a purpose cause they can actually wrestle.

By the way the reason they got rid of Jackie was because she spoke her mind in the back, & she was fired for it. Christy Hemme was released due to her salary. Those 2 were well liked in the back & this is coming from interviews with the wrestlers when asked about the 2.

C'mon man, stop kidding yourself. They're there because they sell calendars. Especially Candice, since she's got a proven track record to sell magazine covers.

The reason Jackie probably got fired was because she looks like she could have a dick. Victoria is suspect too. I bet if I was a reporter for PWInsider and I made a rumor with the headline "Jackie & Victoria Have Dicks", you would believe it. You really do not know Maria or Candice or how they really are in person. For all you know what you read could be a bias account from another diva that hates them and wants them fired.

Another thing, you act like Jackie getting fired for speaking her mind is such a bad thing. If you work in a company and started bitching about how your boss is an idiot and he find out you said it, what do you expect him to do? Just ignore it and give her the opportunity to gain support and in no time every employee is against you? McMahon rules with an iron face, he;s been doing it for 20+ years. Every employee knows that if you dont do something right, he will fire your ass and replace you in an instant. I bet after he fired Jackie he didn't have a problem with some spoiled bitch mouthing off about his product anymore.

You call yourself a true wrestling fan, but fact of the matter is I question that. I only see you complain about wrestling and how it could be better. How about writing something positive about it if you really like it. A true fan finds wrestling enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with everything that I see in the WWE, but I enjoy watching the wrestling AND the attractive women they put on TV.

Like I said, I'd rather have a talentless Maria than a talentless Coach on TV anyday.

First of all Jackie doesn't look like a guy & niether does Victoria. & you're the first person I've found to have brought that up. WWE can sell more calendars with Trish & the cover instead of Candice. No one even heard of Candice before that Super Bowl commerical. She was one of the first ones eliminated from the first Raw Diva Search. So I don't think her "track record" has anything to do with it. I don't really care how Candice or Maria are as a person, all I'm saying is that they both are extremely annoying & have no interest in becoming a wrestler.

I don't think Vince was the reason Jackie got fired for speaking her mind. I think that was thedoing of Stephanie McMahon & not Vince as Steph does these kinds of things. Case in point Paul Heyman going from head writer of Smackdown, to head writer of OVW all because he disagreed with an idea of Stephanie's. & it shows Heyman was right cause Smackdown hasn't been as good as it was when he was the head writer.

The only thing I've complained about is Candice, Maria, & Stephanie. I do find Raw very enjoyable to watch, I just have to either change the channel or hit the mute button whenever Candice or Maria is on the screen. Hell i think they've produced great Raws week after week since Taboo Tuesday.

I perfer having the Coach on Raw instead of Maria cause the addition of Joey Styles has made the Coach better. Of course the addition of Joey Styles has helped Raw over all cause he is the best announcer in wrestling today & it could be aruged that he's one of the best ever.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2005, 01:12:35 AM
The fact of the matter is it's all speculation.

But I agree about Joey Style. His announcing makes me say "J.R. who?". JR was great during his time though.
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 07:25:25 AM
The fact of the matter is it's all speculation.

But I agree about Joey Style. His announcing makes me say "J.R. who?". JR was great during his time though.

Yup, and I agree with your other post a couple up. 

Personally, I like Maria, Christy, and didn't care for Jackie, and don't care for Candice.

My whole point to this guy is that it's speculation.  He talks like it's fact when if he knew the people who write this shit, it's most obviously NOT fact. 

I first learned about this when I worked for a limo company and we were backstage at a couple events.  The next day, you'd read on the net what happened backstage, and it was entirely fucked up.  WAYYYY off base. 

So my point is when you hear rumours about what happened blah blah blah, people shouldn't just blindly believe them.  My other point is that Vince McMahon has proven that he knows what the fuck he's doing time and time again, and ultimately it's his company, he can do whatever he wants.  For a child to say he knows better than Vince McMahon how to run a wrestling organization is a joke. 
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Post by: Perfection on December 16, 2005, 01:12:11 PM
The fact of the matter is it's all speculation.

But I agree about Joey Style. His announcing makes me say "J.R. who?". JR was great during his time though.

Yup, and I agree with your other post a couple up. 

Personally, I like Maria, Christy, and didn't care for Jackie, and don't care for Candice.

My whole point to this guy is that it's speculation.  He talks like it's fact when if he knew the people who write this shit, it's most obviously NOT fact. 

I first learned about this when I worked for a limo company and we were backstage at a couple events.  The next day, you'd read on the net what happened backstage, and it was entirely fucked up.  WAYYYY off base. 

So my point is when you hear rumours about what happened blah blah blah, people shouldn't just blindly believe them.  My other point is that Vince McMahon has proven that he knows what the fuck he's doing time and time again, and ultimately it's his company, he can do whatever he wants.  For a child to say he knows better than Vince McMahon how to run a wrestling organization is a joke. 

I guess it's just luck then that guys like Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer get most of what they report correct. In fact, if you look at the reports made by most of the credible sources out there, they tend to end up being true.

The point on Vince is that he doesn't seem to know what's good for the company all the time. The way he handled the J.R. situation turned on him & that's way they gave Joey Styles a chance to call Raw was because Joey would get less backlash from the fans if he replaced J.R. The skit that Vince did about J.R.'s surgury showed that Vince didn't know what he was doing there. The fans were even chanting boring towards Vince. Putting more of a foucs on the Entertainment part of the WWE instead of the wrestling part of the WWE shows that Vince doesn't entirely know what he is doing right now. Not resigning Paul Heyman or getting rid of Bischoff permantly would show that Vince has lost a step because you can't risk having 2 great wrestling minds being used to their full potential on TNA.

So Vince in the past has shown that he does know what he is doing but if you take a look in recent months you can see where he's starting not too know exactly what's right for the company.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 16, 2005, 01:34:04 PM
That JR surgery bit was so awful I couldn't believe nobody objected to it. Vince has had hits & misses, and that was definitely a miss. Gobbledegooker & Mordecai are just a few off the top of my head that I remember as misses. As long as you have more hits than misses is what's important, and I think lately McMahon has had a good track record.

I can't really comment on the whole GM situation until I see who the new guy is. If they pick Dusty Rhodes I'm gonna laugh, but I can't seriously see Vince ripping off TNA.
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 02:16:52 PM
Vince McMahon isn't perfect and he does stupid shit all the time.  He always has.  It's in his personality.  He's no different now than he was then.  In the long run, though, he's the greatest wrestling promoter that's ever lived. 
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Post by: Larrabee on December 16, 2005, 07:01:14 PM
I've been watching for over 15 years now, and one thing I can say is that WWE will always have that core of wrestling fans that will stick with them through the best & worst times. The thing is, they need to rebuild that fanbase that jumped on the bangwagon in 98-99, when wrestling hit that boom period. I agree with what Sik said, Vince is either hit or miss at times. Nowadays, some of the material is just a little too tasteless. The way they handled J.R.'s dismissal was ridiculous and the lowrider blowup angle from the Smackdown special was just fucked up. I don't care if individuals, including Chavo himself said it was alright, Eddie Guerrero passed away a little over a month ago, and they're on TV crashing and exploding his trademark lolo. Sometimes, it just hits really low levels.
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 08:49:16 PM
^ No worse than the shit they pulled back in the day, though.  Remember them having Hawk stumble around like a drunk and they acted like he fell off the titon tron one day?  Or them making fun of Jake the Snake's alcoholism.  The Montreal Screw Job, etc.  Vince has always been a prick. 
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Post by: Larrabee on December 17, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
^^Right but if I remember correctly both Hawk & Jake Roberts agreed to go along with those storylines themselves. The lowrider incident was just tasteless, imo. It's obvious that they're desperate for ratings.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 17, 2005, 05:38:57 PM
Was the lowrider really that tasteless? It was a car not Eddie Gurrero himself.
Title: Re: December 12th Raw is War...
Post by: Trauma-san on December 18, 2005, 01:55:32 PM
Yeah, I didn't see a problem with it.  Of course I'm not an opressed minority so what the fuck would I know, right?
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Post by: Larrabee on December 18, 2005, 02:37:23 PM
Was the lowrider really that tasteless? It was a car not Eddie Gurrero himself.

True, but still...shock value when done right can prove to be successful, but lately it seems that they're trying a little too hard. I wonder what they've got planned for the PPV tonight.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 18, 2005, 03:41:11 PM
More cornball Undertaker shit. They made his gimmick so corny lately. It was tight in the late 90's with his Ministry Of Darkness.
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Post by: Perfection on December 19, 2005, 06:37:49 PM
Was the lowrider really that tasteless? It was a car not Eddie Gurrero himself.

True, but still...shock value when done right can prove to be successful, but lately it seems that they're trying a little too hard. I wonder what they've got planned for the PPV tonight.

That Time White spot on at Armageddon, most people agreed ruined what was turning into a pretty good PPV. Sometimes you got to wonder why Vince thinks some of these vingeetes are good ideas.
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Post by: westkoastanostra on December 20, 2005, 12:45:16 AM
More cornball Undertaker shit. They made his gimmick so corny lately. It was tight in the late 90's with his Ministry Of Darkness.

yea their trying to make him more and more scary but it just doesn't work no more...they shoulda kept the redneck motorcyclin taker instead...
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Post by: Perfection on December 20, 2005, 10:35:25 PM
More cornball Undertaker shit. They made his gimmick so corny lately. It was tight in the late 90's with his Ministry Of Darkness.

yea their trying to make him more and more scary but it just doesn't work no more...they shoulda kept the redneck motorcyclin taker instead...

See Mark Calloway wanted to stay as the American Badass, but it was the fans who wanted to see him back as the Dead Man. So that's why he went back to being the Dead Man was because the fans wanted to be that character
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 21, 2005, 12:26:22 AM
That Tim WHite segment you were talking about was disgusting. Way out of line on WWE's part.
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Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on December 21, 2005, 03:15:14 AM
What happend at the PPV?? I seen the end of the taker match but what else? Who tha fuck is Tim White??
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Post by: Larrabee on December 21, 2005, 12:08:01 PM
I didn't see Armageddon, but apparently they had former referee Tim White do a suicide angle, for whatever reason. Pointless  ::)