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Title: wats with all the remakes
Post by: white Boy on December 15, 2005, 02:29:47 PM
 ??? wtf? this shit is killin me, im sure the producers will be cool, but i dont see the point of it, people need to see the original movies, ugh, ....  and superman??? etc... niggas need some creativity.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Kal EL on December 15, 2005, 03:23:31 PM
lack of creativity in a word.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Javier on December 15, 2005, 03:52:34 PM
Not all remakes are bad.  If anybody should be touching a classic it should be down by a great filmmaker. 
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: white Boy on December 15, 2005, 04:15:21 PM
i think they should remake bad movies instead...
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Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on December 15, 2005, 04:17:58 PM
U wanna know wuts up with all the remakes, here it is: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: The Watcher on December 15, 2005, 04:57:09 PM
my wife saw the stage show of the producers while i was at a computer security conf in sydney in october and said it was dope, didnt know it existed as a movie though
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: rik on December 15, 2005, 05:22:02 PM
I was wondering about this too. The last few years they been doin nothing but remakes. Some are alright but i don't think they should be fukin with them. Muthafukas ran out of ideas.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 15, 2005, 05:33:43 PM
Because niggaz be unoriginal.
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Post by: Javier on December 15, 2005, 05:36:50 PM
lol at the timeline of the Producers

Mel Brooks writes/directs the film in the late 60s- cool film by the way
Mel Brooks decides to turn it into a musical
Now the new movie is based on the musical
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: JMan on December 16, 2005, 01:10:27 AM
I was wondering about this too. The last few years they been doin nothing but remakes. Some are alright but i don't think they should be fukin with them. Muthafukas ran out of ideas.

trying to regain the new generation with the old generation.. + way back then, producers had original ideas and money was never really the main issue... now they try and recreate the success but usually fail.. because spend too much on special fx and tend to lose the plot of the original all together
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Throwback on December 16, 2005, 03:24:28 AM
do you see the cycle? first the trend was to make "history-based swordfighting" movies. Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, LotR etc. and now they remake old superheromovies.. i bet the Illuminati is behind this.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 16, 2005, 03:31:08 AM
the reason we got all these remakes is because ppl are more afraid to take risks these days same reason why they do so many sequals, what they should do is spend less on A-list actors and produce origional movies rather than the same regurgitated bullshit
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: 7even on December 16, 2005, 05:09:07 AM
do you see the cycle? first the trend was to make "history-based swordfighting" movies. Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, LotR etc. and now they remake old superheromovies.. i bet the Illuminati is behind this.

one concept sells, others copy the concept.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Shallow on December 16, 2005, 06:24:08 AM
??? wtf? this shit is killin me, im sure the producers will be cool, but i dont see the point of it, people need to see the original movies, ugh, ....  and superman??? etc... niggas need some creativity.


Superman has be redone and changed so many times since he was created. And this movie isn't a remake even, it's a new Superman story. It's about Superman returning to Earth after seeing Krypton. Batman Begins was a retelling of Batman but it was needed since Burton did such a great job of going over the top and making Batman look like a goof in his 2 movies. He took the Batman that had finally gotten serious after 50 years and turned it into a circus. Then in part 2 he turned it in Beetlejuice.

Besides, making new movies with comic book characters is fine. It's when you remake real movies that it becomes stupid. Like if someone tried to remake Forrest Gump.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 07:29:36 AM
i think they should remake bad movies instead...

Haha, that's actually an excellent idea.  I never thought about that.  Think about it.

They remake good movies that already made their money, all it does it shit on the original, they should be remaking movies that were horribly done the first time and didn't make any money.  At least if the movie has *ANY merit, that is... dont' remake "Attack of the Killer Tomatos".  Well, actually even that could work.

I heard the new King Kong = Shit. 

I'm getting sick of it too.  It's like this.  3 years ago, I would see every movie that came out.  I used to post on here about them... I'd even go see the chick flicks, the animated movies, I saw literally EVERYTHING that came out.  After a while though I finally got a fuckin' clue and decided I'd just go see the movies I really was interested in.  So instead of going two or three times a week to the movies, now I go about once a month.  I haven't missed a thing.  If a good movie like Harry Potter or SAW II or something comes out, I go see it.  All the unoriginal remakes and shit I leave alone.  The one that broke the camels back for me was the Honeymooners with Cedric the Entertainer.  I just couldn't take that shit.  Replace Jackie Gleason with Cedric the Entertainer? That's disgusting. 
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 07:32:35 AM
??? wtf? this shit is killin me, im sure the producers will be cool, but i dont see the point of it, people need to see the original movies, ugh, ....  and superman??? etc... niggas need some creativity.


Superman has be redone and changed so many times since he was created. And this movie isn't a remake even, it's a new Superman story. It's about Superman returning to Earth after seeing Krypton. Batman Begins was a retelling of Batman but it was needed since Burton did such a great job of going over the top and making Batman look like a goof in his 2 movies. He took the Batman that had finally gotten serious after 50 years and turned it into a circus. Then in part 2 he turned it in Beetlejuice.

Besides, making new movies with comic book characters is fine. It's when you remake real movies that it becomes stupid. Like if someone tried to remake Forrest Gump.

Rumours for years that they're going to do Gump 2.

I don't feel Burton was the one who harmed Batman, I think the first two movies yes weren't dark but they were both good.  The third and fourth movies were the shitty ones that caused the damage. 

I don't mind them making new movies based on old characters or sequels, I just get pissed when they remake the exact same fucking movie.  Oceans 11 for instance.  While it was a great movie, it had already been done.  Oceans 12 was a joke, too killing my 'sequels are alright' argument. 
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Javier on December 16, 2005, 09:20:36 AM
Here are some cool movies that have been remade, IMO

-Angels in the Outfield
-Vanilla Sky
-Cape Fear
-Gone in 60 Seconds
-The Mummy
-The War of the Worlds

I havent seen it but a lot of people really liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factor.  You really have to eliminate the not so good ones when it comes to remakes, but hey thats pretty much with any type of film
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 02:19:03 PM
I'm not even sure that my adversion is to remakes, just to the lack of original movies.  I would be fine with them remaking older movies, as long as it was an appropriate part of their release schedule... but shit anymore it's like 80% of movies are either sequels or the exact same movie as something that came out in the 60's.
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Post by: eS El Duque on December 16, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
i love it.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Shallow on December 16, 2005, 06:38:46 PM
??? wtf? this shit is killin me, im sure the producers will be cool, but i dont see the point of it, people need to see the original movies, ugh, ....  and superman??? etc... niggas need some creativity.


Superman has be redone and changed so many times since he was created. And this movie isn't a remake even, it's a new Superman story. It's about Superman returning to Earth after seeing Krypton. Batman Begins was a retelling of Batman but it was needed since Burton did such a great job of going over the top and making Batman look like a goof in his 2 movies. He took the Batman that had finally gotten serious after 50 years and turned it into a circus. Then in part 2 he turned it in Beetlejuice.

Besides, making new movies with comic book characters is fine. It's when you remake real movies that it becomes stupid. Like if someone tried to remake Forrest Gump.

Rumours for years that they're going to do Gump 2.

I don't feel Burton was the one who harmed Batman, I think the first two movies yes weren't dark but they were both good.  The third and fourth movies were the shitty ones that caused the damage. 

I don't mind them making new movies based on old characters or sequels, I just get pissed when they remake the exact same fucking movie.  Oceans 11 for instance.  While it was a great movie, it had already been done.  Oceans 12 was a joke, too killing my 'sequels are alright' argument. 


My qualms with Burton's Batman was it was very quirky compared to what Frank Miller and Allan Moore were doing in the comics. They reinvented Batman and then Burton comes in and talks about how he was pating tribute to the new dark Batman, but it was nothing like the work he was "inspired" by.


And a Gump sequel wouldn't piss me off. A gump remake with some new actor like Orlando Bloom or Ashton Kutcher for the sake of a cash grab would really get on my nerves. Just like how the new Ralph Kramden played by Cedric bothered you and me both.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Trauma-san on December 16, 2005, 08:50:42 PM
I saw King Kong tonight.  It was actually very good. 
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 17, 2005, 04:17:55 AM
Here are some cool movies that have been remade, IMO

-Angels in the Outfield
-Vanilla Sky
-Cape Fear
-Gone in 60 Seconds
-The Mummy
-The War of the Worlds

I havent seen it but a lot of people really liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factor.  You really have to eliminate the not so good ones when it comes to remakes, but hey thats pretty much with any type of film
charlie and the chocolate factory looks rubbish and people i know who saw it said it sucked. the origional is a classic its not even worth remaking it
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: white Boy on December 17, 2005, 05:10:29 AM
alfie and thomas crown affair are both good remakes, i gotta check out the original movies tho, and vanilla sky was mentioned, wat was the name of the orignial movie???
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: MIC on December 17, 2005, 06:02:04 AM
alfie and thomas crown affair are both good remakes, i gotta check out the original movies tho, and vanilla sky was mentioned, wat was the name of the orignial movie???

"Abre Los Ojos". It was made in Spain, if I'm not mistaken.
Another excellent remake: Scarface 8)


Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on December 17, 2005, 07:01:28 AM
The thing is, even the best directors are now doing it, i.e. Scorcese's new flick is a remake of the asian film Internal Affairs. Admitably its looks like it's gonna be good, and it has Ray Winstone in it (always a good idea), but when even people like him are remaking stuff it starts to get quite annoying.

"Scarface" wasn't really a remake, the first film was about Al Capone in New York, they just took the essence of that film and translated it to cocaine dealing in Florida, which for me is how it should be. The film could quite easily have been called something else, and you wouldn't have even imagined it being a remake, it was simply inspired by another film.

The ones that really annoy me are like Gus Van Sant's version of "Psycho" which was shot by shot exactly the same as Hitchcock's. What was the point in that? It was similar with the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" remake as well.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: white Boy on December 17, 2005, 07:04:30 AM
i actually like the texas chainsaw remake, i thought the original sucked
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on December 17, 2005, 07:41:53 AM
I don't like either of them, but the new one is just the same film, shot in pretty much the same way, but with more attractive women and better effects.
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: MIC on December 17, 2005, 08:51:12 AM

"Scarface" wasn't really a remake, the first film was about Al Capone in New York, they just took the essence of that film and translated it to cocaine dealing in Florida, which for me is how it should be. The film could quite easily have been called something else, and you wouldn't have even imagined it being a remake, it was simply inspired by another film.


Not really. Apart from moving the action to Florida and making the main character Cuban, 1983 Scarface has basically the same plot (updated, of course) with some characters, scenes and dialogue lines copied directly from the original.
And I don't know why you mention Al Capone and New York - wasn't he from Chicago?
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Javier on December 17, 2005, 11:16:26 AM
Martin Scorecese has already done a remake.  Cape Fear came out in 1991 and that was a remake of the movie that was done in 1962.  He's also done a sequel, lol.  The Color of Money which is a sequel to the Hustler. Im not annoyed by remakes nowadays compared to what I was before. 
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: eS El Duque on December 17, 2005, 12:32:44 PM

"Scarface" wasn't really a remake, the first film was about Al Capone in New York, they just took the essence of that film and translated it to cocaine dealing in Florida, which for me is how it should be. The film could quite easily have been called something else, and you wouldn't have even imagined it being a remake, it was simply inspired by another film.


Not really. Apart from moving the action to Florida and making the main character Cuban, 1983 Scarface has basically the same plot (updated, of course) with some characters, scenes and dialogue lines copied directly from the original.
And I don't know why you mention Al Capone and New York - wasn't he from Chicago?

Chicago!
Title: Re: wats with all the remakes
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 17, 2005, 02:20:45 PM
I'm willing to bet that 90% of all movies made in Hollywood these days are not original content. Seriously. Everything is taken form a book, old movie, real life event, tv show, etc. But as long as it's good I don't care too much.