West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Conan on December 22, 2005, 01:53:20 PM
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Yeah, I'm probably gonna catch some flack for posting this one, but just read the post first before some of you decide to put me on blast.
Firstly, think back to when The Game was first signed to Aftermath. Sure, he had a buzz around him but, as I said in the article on Game that I wrote for DubCNN, it was only when he was signed by 50 that he was opened to a much larger audience, as a result became such a force on the mixtapes and his name really started growing on a global scale. I'm sure many would agree with me on that point. When he was riding solo with the Doc, his name was well known on the internet fan sites like this, but when the G-Unit affiliation came he started getting those magazine covers and radio appearances well in advance of "The Documentary" dropping. Finally on The Game side of things, and this is speculation but still, if you believe 50 than The Game's debut was stuck in Aftermath limbo before he became involved and got "the wheels moving", as I remember him putting it. If you believe that, and even if you don't, it's hard to deny that 50 had a pivotal role in the resurrection of the West Coast commercially that was achieved by "The Documentary".
Now, look at G-Unit currently. They are giving up-and-coming acts from the West Coast, rappers like 40 Glocc, Spider and, if the rumours prove to be true, Jayo Felony, the chance to be part of a commercial juggernaut that can guarantee them the kind of exposure many aspiring artists could only dream of. The same rule applies to producers - how many other A-List rappers from the East Coast have you seen work with DJ Khalil, Jelly Roll, and Fredwreck? Exactly - no-one. I can't thing of a single non-West rapper that has shown the West Coast so much love in recent times.
And for the record, I am NOT attempting to dick ride 50 here. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm far from one of 50's biggest fans, and the only Unit albums in my possession are "Get Rich..." and "The Documentary". That doesn't mean, however, that I'm about to ignore all that 50 has done for the West Coast rap scene.
People can say "G-Unot" all they want - the fact is that valuable West Coast players like Snoop, Dre (no CONFIRMED feuding between them on Dre's part), Nate and Fred aren't going to go out of their way to distance themselves from G-Unit because, even if the empire has shown unavoidable signs of crumbling (they're on the downfall for sure), they probably recognize what 50 Cent has done for the West's music scene. That, and 50 personally still sells by the bucket load...
Look at it like this: "Aftermath" is supposed to be the go-to label on the West Coast, yet they only have two West Coast acts in Bishop and The Game. G-Unit has three: Spider, 40, Game (50 claimed he's still co-contracted, even if he's not in the faction) and maybe even Jayo.
Now that's a pretty damn sad state of affairs...
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Now that's a pretty damn sad state of affairs...
well, the west is in a sad state of affairs
if you're a rapper from the west you will start beef with another rapper from the west just to move units, pretty sad
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Couldn't have said it better. These new West Coast artists have to come with some straight hustler/gangsta shit. Fuck all that beef shit, it get's you nowhere except the graveyard.
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G unit aint doin shit for the west coast. 50 helped Game but Dre is the man behind it all and on top of that the west is not "back" becayse Game went plat. Xzibit went plat without g unit, nobody givin Columbia credit for bringin the west back so why would g unit get any credit just because a west coast rapper they worked with went platinum? As far as the other west coast "rappers" signed to g unit, so what? None of those guys will ever release an album, so what is it really doing for the west coast to have cali rappers tied down releasing nothing and unable to release anything through any other company? Not to mention 50 is trying to represent cali by using the worst rapper on earth (spider) and is tries to use the same tired 15 year old cali stereotypes that barely even exist anymore. OK so maybe g unit is doin more for cali, but the things they are doing are not positive things. I'd rather we just have our own guys doin nothin instead of lettin an outsider do negative shit.
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G unit aint doin shit for the west coast. 50 helped Game but Dre is the man behind it all and on top of that the west is not "back" becayse Game went plat. Xzibit went plat without g unit, nobody givin Columbia credit for bringin the west back so why would g unit get any credit just because a west coast rapper they worked with went platinum? As far as the other west coast "rappers" signed to g unit, so what? None of those guys will ever release an album, so what is it really doing for the west coast to have cali rappers tied down releasing nothing and unable to release anything through any other company? Not to mention 50 is trying to represent cali by using the worst rapper on earth (spider) and is tries to use the same tired 15 year old cali stereotypes that barely even exist anymore. OK so maybe g unit is doin more for cali, but the things they are doing are not positive things. I'd rather we just have our own guys doin nothin instead of lettin an outsider do negative shit.
huh? columbia brought the west back?
so are they or not?
fuck what them niggaz got going on as far as beefs...they putting our produces on...good. they lettin west coast niggaz shyne..great...nothings stoping these niggaz from building their own companies after some work wit g-unit. its a good look.
he helping niggaz on the east just as well, mobb deep, mop etc.. and wit b.g. and lil scrappy going over there looks like the south too...that nigga trying to take over the whole muthafukin game...who's gonna stop him?
i got a few ideas.....
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I can't say G-Unit bruoght the west back. All the West Coast cats on G-Unit aren't going to realse an album or they're going to flop. As far as Game goes, if 50 didn't agree to work with game, then he probably would have never released an album. So I'll give 50 props for that. But that's not enough to say G-Unit has done more for the west since death row, because Dre released 2001 and the documentry on Aftermath. So despite Aftermath doing relitivaly little for the west, imma have to go with Aftermath, not G-Uint.
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you guys are all fuckin trippin i thought this was gonna be a joke thread
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G unit aint doin shit for the west coast. 50 helped Game but Dre is the man behind it all and on top of that the west is not "back" becayse Game went plat. Xzibit went plat without g unit, nobody givin Columbia credit for bringin the west back so why would g unit get any credit just because a west coast rapper they worked with went platinum? As far as the other west coast "rappers" signed to g unit, so what? None of those guys will ever release an album, so what is it really doing for the west coast to have cali rappers tied down releasing nothing and unable to release anything through any other company? Not to mention 50 is trying to represent cali by using the worst rapper on earth (spider) and is tries to use the same tired 15 year old cali stereotypes that barely even exist anymore. OK so maybe g unit is doin more for cali, but the things they are doing are not positive things. I'd rather we just have our own guys doin nothin instead of lettin an outsider do negative shit.
huh? columbia brought the west back?
so are they or not?
fuck what them niggaz got going on as far as beefs...they putting our produces on...good. they lettin west coast niggaz shyne..great...nothings stoping these niggaz from building their own companies after some work wit g-unit. its a good look.
he helping niggaz on the east just as well, mobb deep, mop etc.. and wit b.g. and lil scrappy going over there looks like the south too...that nigga trying to take over the whole muthafukin game...who's gonna stop him?
i got a few ideas.....
Pay attention.
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Good read man.
I think you are right. I thing that I always wondered is where the fuck is Dre in all this? He found Em, cool, he made a MEEEGA hit with 50 and worked with him. But isnt it Aftermath you is getting all this young new talent out in the mainstreme?? All Dre seems to be doing is first off to take forever to put Detoz out. He was about to sign Cube, Eve and Busta which never really happened anyway.
Where Dre at :(
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I can't say G-Unit bruoght the west back. All the West Coast cats on G-Unit aren't going to realse an album or they're going to flop. As far as Game goes, if 50 didn't agree to work with game, then he probably would have never released an album. So I'll give 50 props for that. But that's not enough to say G-Unit has done more for the west since death row, because Dre released 2001 and the documentry on Aftermath. So despite Aftermath doing relitivaly little for the west, imma have to go with Aftermath, not G-Uint.
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G unit aint doin shit for the west coast. 50 helped Game but Dre is the man behind it all and on top of that the west is not "back" becayse Game went plat. Xzibit went plat without g unit, nobody givin Columbia credit for bringin the west back so why would g unit get any credit just because a west coast rapper they worked with went platinum? As far as the other west coast "rappers" signed to g unit, so what? None of those guys will ever release an album, so what is it really doing for the west coast to have cali rappers tied down releasing nothing and unable to release anything through any other company? Not to mention 50 is trying to represent cali by using the worst rapper on earth (spider) and is tries to use the same tired 15 year old cali stereotypes that barely even exist anymore. OK so maybe g unit is doin more for cali, but the things they are doing are not positive things. I'd rather we just have our own guys doin nothin instead of lettin an outsider do negative shit.
That's real talk right there... Fucc 50, Dre the one got Game the major buzz. If 50 was so much an influence on people, the rest of them knuckleheads on his label would be selling like Game! Spider loc will not sale that many albums, "MARK MY WORDS!"
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Yeah, I'm probably gonna catch some flack for posting this one, but just read the post first before some of you decide to put me on blast.
Firstly, think back to when The Game was first signed to Aftermath. Sure, he had a buzz around him but, as I said in the article on Game that I wrote for DubCNN, it was only when he was signed by 50 that he was opened to a much larger audience, as a result became such a force on the mixtapes and his name really started growing on a global scale. I'm sure many would agree with me on that point. When he was riding solo with the Doc, his name was well known on the internet fan sites like this, but when the G-Unit affiliation came he started getting those magazine covers and radio appearances well in advance of "The Documentary" dropping. Finally on The Game side of things, and this is speculation but still, if you believe 50 than The Game's debut was stuck in Aftermath limbo before he became involved and got "the wheels moving", as I remember him putting it. If you believe that, and even if you don't, it's hard to deny that 50 had a pivotal role in the resurrection of the West Coast commercially that was achieved by "The Documentary".
Now, look at G-Unit currently. They are giving up-and-coming acts from the West Coast, rappers like 40 Glocc, Spider and, if the rumours prove to be true, Jayo Felony, the chance to be part of a commercial juggernaut that can guarantee them the kind of exposure many aspiring artists could only dream of. The same rule applies to producers - how many other A-List rappers from the East Coast have you seen work with DJ Khalil, Jelly Roll, and Fredwreck? Exactly - no-one. I can't thing of a single non-West rapper that has shown the West Coast so much love in recent times.
And for the record, I am NOT attempting to dick ride 50 here. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm far from one of 50's biggest fans, and the only Unit albums in my possession are "Get Rich..." and "The Documentary". That doesn't mean, however, that I'm about to ignore all that 50 has done for the West Coast rap scene.
People can say "G-Unot" all they want - the fact is that valuable West Coast players like Snoop, Dre (no CONFIRMED feuding between them on Dre's part), Nate and Fred aren't going to go out of their way to distance themselves from G-Unit because, even if the empire has shown unavoidable signs of crumbling (they're on the downfall for sure), they probably recognize what 50 Cent has done for the West's music scene. That, and 50 personally still sells by the bucket load...
Look at it like this: "Aftermath" is supposed to be the go-to label on the West Coast, yet they only have two West Coast acts in Bishop and The Game. G-Unit has three: Spider, 40, Game (50 claimed he's still co-contracted, even if he's not in the faction) and maybe even Jayo.
Now that's a pretty damn sad state of affairs...
:sleep:
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G unit aint doin shit for the west coast. 50 helped Game but Dre is the man behind it all and on top of that the west is not "back" becayse Game went plat. Xzibit went plat without g unit, nobody givin Columbia credit for bringin the west back so why would g unit get any credit just because a west coast rapper they worked with went platinum? As far as the other west coast "rappers" signed to g unit, so what? None of those guys will ever release an album, so what is it really doing for the west coast to have cali rappers tied down releasing nothing and unable to release anything through any other company? Not to mention 50 is trying to represent cali by using the worst rapper on earth (spider) and is tries to use the same tired 15 year old cali stereotypes that barely even exist anymore. OK so maybe g unit is doin more for cali, but the things they are doing are not positive things. I'd rather we just have our own guys doin nothin instead of lettin an outsider do negative shit.
Dre the one got Game the major buzz.
Actually if you wanna get technical JT The Bigga Figga gave Game his buzz. If it wasn't for JT Dre wouldnt even know who Game is.
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G unit aint doin shit for the west coast. 50 helped Game but Dre is the man behind it all and on top of that the west is not "back" becayse Game went plat. Xzibit went plat without g unit, nobody givin Columbia credit for bringin the west back so why would g unit get any credit just because a west coast rapper they worked with went platinum? As far as the other west coast "rappers" signed to g unit, so what? None of those guys will ever release an album, so what is it really doing for the west coast to have cali rappers tied down releasing nothing and unable to release anything through any other company? Not to mention 50 is trying to represent cali by using the worst rapper on earth (spider) and is tries to use the same tired 15 year old cali stereotypes that barely even exist anymore. OK so maybe g unit is doin more for cali, but the things they are doing are not positive things. I'd rather we just have our own guys doin nothin instead of lettin an outsider do negative shit.
Dre the one got Game the major buzz.
Actually if you wanna get technical JT The Bigga Figga gave Game his buzz. If it wasn't for JT Dre wouldnt even know who Game is.
True. The first thing I heard from Game was Untold Story (produced by JT). I was hooked. Street Kingz is bangin'. 8)
"Beef wit' the kid click clack mothafucka. Let the bullets burn ya six-pack mothafucka. Get jacked mothafucka, when you come to Compton. Get a Mac mothafucka when u come to Compton."
This was before West Side Story and Higher.
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G-Unit is doing stuff for the west as well as destroying,Spider loc and Game are now feuding becuz of G-Unit,
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you guys are all fuckin trippin i thought this was gonna be a joke thread
same, how can you say that, they hav dun nothin but try an copy the wests style and attitude
a couple more labelsthat hav dun more are sick wid it and dpg recordz/gangsta advisory records
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The guy who started this thread is only speaking the truth. 50 was the real reason Game got his buzz going. Of course Dre's production was the main factor that Game sold, but let's be for real. Of course everyone on sites like this knew about the kid, because we're die hard west coast fans. But, speaking as someone who's in NY, no one heard of Game till he started hitting the mixtapes with G-Unit. JT does not make his way over here. Ever. Dre and Aftermath don't really promote their artists until right before the album drops. Anybody who's on the Math has to fend for themselves in that regard. Whereas on G-Unit, they flood the mixtapes constantly and make sure you know all of their artists months before their albums drop. Plus, Game's appearances on Buck and Bank's albums (and his little cameos in G-Unit videos) didn't hurt either. You don't have to like 50 Cent to give credit where credit is due. I can't think of any other label in recent time that has shown the west coast as much love as G-Unit.
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The guy who started this thread is only speaking the truth. 50 was the real reason Game got his buzz going. Of course Dre's production was the main factor that Game sold, but let's be for real. Of course everyone on sites like this knew about the kid, because we're die hard west coast fans. But, speaking as someone who's in NY, no one heard of Game till he started hitting the mixtapes with G-Unit. JT does not make his way over here. Ever. Dre and Aftermath don't really promote their artists until right before the album drops. Anybody who's on the Math has to fend for themselves in that regard. Whereas on G-Unit, they flood the mixtapes constantly and make sure you know all of their artists months before their albums drop. Plus, Game's appearances on Buck and Bank's albums (and his little cameos in G-Unit videos) didn't hurt either. You don't have to like 50 Cent to give credit where credit is due. I can't think of any other label in recent time that has shown the west coast as much love as G-Unit.
You get a prop
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50 after GRODT > Average Joe Gangsta Rapper IMO...
...But there's no point in overlooking the fact that he's the only rapper on his level commercially (well, actually there aren't that many other rappers on that level with him, but anyway...) giving under-rated West Coast talents like Fredwreck and Jelly Roll.
And, whoever said X went plat with Columbia, Xzibit's last two albums have only reached gold sales domestically.
The title of this thread is probably misleading, I can see that now - since G-Unit haven't done for the West what Death Row did, and obviously it's very, VERY unlikely that they will ever achieve as much success with the West's artists. However, that was written because I do feel that they are doing significant things, both good and potentially bad, for the West Coast's music scene.
Oh, and doubletrouble - no-one's forcing you to read my post. It's only made for discussion, and if you're not interested, just go read another 2pac topic instead. Sorted.
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^^^It aint about if I like 50 or not, I just dont think he's doin shit for the West Coast. He's doin shit to get money. Yea you right about X only goin gold his last 2 times out, but where was everybody sayin "Columbia is bringin Cali back!" when Restless went 3x plat? See what I'm sayin? Just because they got a West Coast rapper doin good numbers dont mean they bringin Cali back. When Cali rappers can consistently get on like rappers from ATL can get on, then the West is back. Game and Spider Loc are not gonna bring the west back.
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^^^It aint about if I like 50 or not, I just dont think he's doin shit for the West Coast. He's doin shit to get money. Yea you right about X only goin gold his last 2 times out, but where was everybody sayin "Columbia is bringin Cali back!" when Restless went 3x plat? See what I'm sayin? Just because they got a West Coast rapper doin good numbers dont mean they bringin Cali back. When Cali rappers can consistently get on like rappers from ATL can get on, then the West is back. Game and Spider Loc are not gonna bring the west back.
Chuuuuuuch
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50 is NOT bringing the west back. He is only using West coast artist for THAT FUNK and to have a secure fan base in every region. Jay-z used Ric Roc for Parking lot Pimpin' but that shit didnt help the Federation when they came out.
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The last 3 replies said "bringing back the West". The thread started never said anything about "bringing it back". He just said G-Unit is doing more than the West at the moment.
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The last 3 replies said "bringing back the West". The thread started never said anything about "bringing it back". He just said G-Unit is doing more than the West at the moment.