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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Javier on December 25, 2005, 11:27:41 PM
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30.3PPG
49.5FG%
Over/Under 47.2% (his FG% last year)
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It's all about the Play Offs, homie. I don't care about his shooting %. He have to send his team to the post-season. Just like Kobe. If they fail, they'll loose all their credibility. Anyway he made one of the most amazing dunk i've ever seen last night, lol. And the blue jersey looked pretty nice.
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His FG% is totally insane. I think he will have a rather high % his whole career long as he doesn't seem like the player who forces shots all the time.
About the playoffs: Cavs have the same huge disadvantage that Dallas has. They have the best team in their divison. Consequence: They can only achieve the 4th playoff spot. :( Even if they have the 2nd best record. That fucking sucks.
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About the playoffs: Cavs have the same huge disadvantage that Dallas has. They have the best team in their divison. Consequence: They can only achieve the 4th playoff spot. :( Even if they have the 2nd best record. That fucking sucks.
True that.
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About the playoffs: Cavs have the same huge disadvantage that Dallas has. They have the best team in their divison. Consequence: They can only achieve the 4th playoff spot. :( Even if they have the 2nd best record. That fucking sucks.
True that.
yep they have to change this rule , the playoff draw is totally fucked up with that. Currently NJ and Minnesota are 3 whereas they have the 7th and 8th overall record in each Conf
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Hey I just think Lebron doesnt get the love he deserves these days. We gotta remember hes only 20! How many NBA SF/G scores this many pts and still be that efficient?
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The thing is, points, scoring, percentage. All that doesn't mean anything...I've seen so many players average high numbers and high percentage, but they just don't know how to win. LeBron is not a winner as of yet...He's a good player and an excellent scorer, he just isn't top-notch in my book, at least until he does something more than score and miss the playoffs...
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Not many guard/forwards have actual high percentages with these type of pts though. At such a young age he's already showing superb shot selection. It's going to be fun watching him perform in the playoffs
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Richard Jefferson:
02-03 50.1 FG%
03-04 49.8 FG%
All I'm saying is that having a better field goal % does not make you better...You can be taking 75% lay-ups for all we know. If field goal % determined greatness, Mark Blount would be a greater center than Patrick Ewing...It's what you've accomplished and how you've gone about it that determines how great you are...
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Jefferson hasnt even cracked 20PPG in the season while doing that
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The thing is, points, scoring, percentage. All that doesn't mean anything...I've seen so many players average high numbers and high percentage, but they just don't know how to win. LeBron is not a winner as of yet...He's a good player and an excellent scorer, he just isn't top-notch in my book, at least until he does something more than score and miss the playoffs...
You mean just like Kobe? (prepares for karma to drop)
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The thing is, points, scoring, percentage. All that doesn't mean anything...I've seen so many players average high numbers and high percentage, but they just don't know how to win. LeBron is not a winner as of yet...He's a good player and an excellent scorer, he just isn't top-notch in my book, at least until he does something more than score and miss the playoffs...
You mean just like Kobe? (prepares for karma to drop)
exactly what I was about to say :-\
"Bryant finished with 37 points on 12-of-30 shooting, including an 0-for-8 effort from 3-point range."
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The thing is, points, scoring, percentage. All that doesn't mean anything...I've seen so many players average high numbers and high percentage, but they just don't know how to win. LeBron is not a winner as of yet...He's a good player and an excellent scorer, he just isn't top-notch in my book, at least until he does something more than score and miss the playoffs...
You mean just like Kobe? (prepares for karma to drop)
exactly what I was about to say :-\
"Bryant finished with 37 points on 12-of-30 shooting, including an 0-for-8 effort from 3-point range."
That's a typical Kobe night lol
*prepares for Karma to drop aswell and waits for a reply whihc will start with "LMAO.."*
Lebron is doing insane. However, he needs to up his assist and rebounds. I mean, he needs to be averaging 30, 7, 7. He's capable of..he averaged 27, 7, 7 last year.
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His FG% is totally insane. I think he will have a rather high % his whole career long as he doesn't seem like the player who forces shots all the time.
About the playoffs: Cavs have the same huge disadvantage that Dallas has. They have the best team in their divison. Consequence: They can only achieve the 4th playoff spot. :( Even if they have the 2nd best record. That fucking sucks.
stupid huh? they should rework the playoff system. San Antonio and Dallas are obviously the best in the West, but they wont be able to meet in the Conference Finals.
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He'll keep it up. Cant say the same for his team....THEY NEED A PT GRD!! Snow and Jones wont get it done when it matterz.
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Richard Jefferson:
02-03 50.1 FG%
03-04 49.8 FG%
All I'm saying is that having a better field goal % does not make you better...You can be taking 75% lay-ups for all we know. If field goal % determined greatness, Mark Blount would be a greater center than Patrick Ewing...It's what you've accomplished and how you've gone about it that determines how great you are...
Yep Tony Parker has the best pt guard field goald this year (majority of his FG made in the paint due to his quickness) whereas he has one of the worst outside shoot for a PG (look at his 3pts % and free throw one)
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Lebrons 3ptFG percentage is 35.7%. Like I said, no G/F has these type of numbers that Lebron is putting up. No G/F scores this many pts and be taht efficient.
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Paul Pierce
PPG 26.6
RPG 8.0
APG 4.3
SPG 1.38
BPG .42
FG% .486
FT% .808
3P% .390
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The thing is, points, scoring, percentage. All that doesn't mean anything...I've seen so many players average high numbers and high percentage, but they just don't know how to win. LeBron is not a winner as of yet...He's a good player and an excellent scorer, he just isn't top-notch in my book, at least until he does something more than score and miss the playoffs...
You mean just like Kobe? (prepares for karma to drop)
Actually, no, not just like Kobe...Kobe's accomplished what it takes, the exact OPPOSITE of what I was saying...moron.
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The thing is, points, scoring, percentage. All that doesn't mean anything...I've seen so many players average high numbers and high percentage, but they just don't know how to win. LeBron is not a winner as of yet...He's a good player and an excellent scorer, he just isn't top-notch in my book, at least until he does something more than score and miss the playoffs...
You mean just like Kobe? (prepares for karma to drop)
exactly what I was about to say :-\
"Bryant finished with 37 points on 12-of-30 shooting, including an 0-for-8 effort from 3-point range."
That's a typical Kobe night lol
*prepares for Karma to drop aswell and waits for a reply whihc will start with "LMAO.."*
Lebron is doing insane. However, he needs to up his assist and rebounds. I mean, he needs to be averaging 30, 7, 7. He's capable of..he averaged 27, 7, 7 last year.
0-8 is a typical Kobe night? If that's a typical Kobe night, you're a typical Kobe hater...LeBron has subsided from last season. I don't know where the comparisons to Jordan are coming from. When he reaches the playoffs, compare him to T-Mac. When he reaches the finals, compare him to Kobe. When he wins 6 titles, compare him to Jordan...You guys are a bunch of disgraceful basketball fans.
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Lebrons 3ptFG percentage is 35.7%. Like I said, no G/F has these type of numbers that Lebron is putting up. No G/F scores this many pts and be taht efficient.
LMAO...That's comparable to Odom's 3-ball, which isn't saying too much.
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Paul Pierce
PPG 26.6
RPG 8.0
APG 4.3
SPG 1.38
BPG .42
FG% .486
FT% .808
3P% .390
Like I said before...
Currently:
Paul Pierce>LeBron James
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I love Pierce, man. He def got game.
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What's so difficult to understand that...
1. Lebron's third year
2. He's under 21
3. He's averaging MORE than 30PPG
You're comparing him to other already established players AND THEIR numbers still dont even match Lebron's. Give it a rest.
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Ok man, he has great stats. So? I'm missing the point. Props to him cause he's a good player.
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Excuse me Javy, I think your missing the point. Eddie House can averege those points if he was on a team like Cleveland where the offense ran through him. The point is, he hasn't won shit in his career. He needs some achievments under his belt before he can be mentioned up there with the big dogs...Get it yet?
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In your eyes who are the big dogs? No guard had done shit without the help of the rest of the team actually being good.
With the Spurs its been Duncan and a great supporting cast. With Detroit its been the most balanced team since the late 80s. Jordan wouldnt be shit without Pippen and Phil. Shaq wouldnt be shit without Kobe. No player has carried a whole team by himself. The offense runs through Iverson, why isnt he so efficient like Lebron? I'm not the one missing the point, you guys are. If you guys seem from my first Post you will know what I was talking about. Will he be able to keep up that excellent FG % while scoring a ton of pts too. In fact, thanks for bringing up that the offense is on his shoulders....it makes his FG% that much more impressive.
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Big dogs: Jerry West, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant
Small dogs: Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, LeBron James, Vince Carter, Patrick Ewing, Shawn Kemp
Do you see the difference yet? LeBron James has YET to climb into the "big dogs" category...How you fail to see that amazes me... ::)
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Big dogs: Jerry West, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant
Small dogs: Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, LeBron James, Vince Carter, Patrick Ewing, Shawn Kemp
Do you see the difference yet? LeBron James has YET to climb into the "big dogs" category...How you fail to see that amazes me... ::)
Jerry West had Wilt, Baylor, and Goodrich
Magic had Jabbar, Wilkes, and Nixon in 1980
Magic had Jabbar and Worthy in 85.88,89
Bird had McHale and Parish in 84, 86
Jordan had Pippen
Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Shaq
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Besides that not the point of my post anyway.
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FUCK ToNeNiK for not being able to congratulate greatness properly unless it's Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant.
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Big dogs: Jerry West, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant
Small dogs: Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, LeBron James, Vince Carter, Patrick Ewing, Shawn Kemp
Do you see the difference yet? LeBron James has YET to climb into the "big dogs" category...How you fail to see that amazes me... ::)
Jerry West had Wilt, Baylor, and Goodrich
Magic had Jabbar, Wilkes, and Nixon in 1980
Magic had Jabbar and Worthy in 85.88,89
Bird had McHale and Parish in 84, 86
Jordan had Pippen
Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Shaq
OK? What's your point? Dominique Wilkins never had anyone, so that makes him a no one...When LeBron gets his "side-kick" (so to speak) and achieves great things, he'll then MAYBE have a chance of being considered with the big dogs...Get it yet?
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FUCK ToNeNiK for not being able to congratulate greatness properly unless it's Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant.
Really? What about the other 6 players I listed under big dogs...LMAO.
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FUCK ToNeNiK for not being able to congratulate greatness properly unless it's Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant.
Really? What about the other 6 players I listed under big dogs...LMAO.
You have no problem with accepting retired players or successful big men.. your problem starts when a player similiar to Kobe is reaching for the throne 8)
You, as huge Kobe-Fan, feel threatened by LeBron's amazing presence and deserved recognition.
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FUCK ToNeNiK for not being able to congratulate greatness properly unless it's Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant.
Really? What about the other 6 players I listed under big dogs...LMAO.
You have no problem with accepting retired players or successful big men.. your problem starts when a player similiar to Kobe is reaching for the throne 8)
You, as huge Kobe-Fan, feel threatened by LeBron's amazing presence and deserved recognition.
Oh yes. That's why I think Paul Pierce is a great player and closer to Kobe than LeBron is. That's why I hoped for Kareem Rush to reach Kobe's level of play (even though it will never happen). That's why I acknowledged Dwyane Wade's Jordaneque (and I actually think he's currently more valuable than LeBron)...What are you getting at? I just don't think LeBron's up there yet, THAT'S IT.
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FUCK ToNeNiK for not being able to congratulate greatness properly unless it's Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant.
Really? What about the other 6 players I listed under big dogs...LMAO.
You have no problem with accepting retired players or successful big men.. your problem starts when a player similiar to Kobe is reaching for the throne 8)
You, as a huge Kobe-Fan, feel threatened by LeBron's amazing presence and deserved recognition.
Oh yes. That's why I think Paul Pierce is a great player and closer to Kobe than LeBron is. That's why I hoped for Kareem Rush to reach Kobe's level of play (even though it will never happen). That's why I acknowledged Dwyane Wade's Jordaneque (and I actually think he's currently more valuable than LeBron)...What are you getting at? I just don't think LeBron's up there yet, THAT'S IT.
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By boosting players like Pierce or Wade, you're aiming at putting LeBron down. Since he's the biggest threat when it comes to taking Kobe's spot, and you know it. Enough psychology for the day.
The Heat would be a lot more dangerous if they had LeBron instead of Wade. Pierce is having the season of his career solo-wise so far, but he's had enough seasons already to tell that he's not up there with Kobe and McGrady+Iverson. He's like Vince minus the injuries and dunks. No threat to Kobe. LeBron is.
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kobe and bron are both good as hell. but id rather have bron. 8)
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FUCK ToNeNiK for not being able to congratulate greatness properly unless it's Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant.
Really? What about the other 6 players I listed under big dogs...LMAO.
You have no problem with accepting retired players or successful big men.. your problem starts when a player similiar to Kobe is reaching for the throne 8)
You, as a huge Kobe-Fan, feel threatened by LeBron's amazing presence and deserved recognition.
Oh yes. That's why I think Paul Pierce is a great player and closer to Kobe than LeBron is. That's why I hoped for Kareem Rush to reach Kobe's level of play (even though it will never happen). That's why I acknowledged Dwyane Wade's Jordaneque (and I actually think he's currently more valuable than LeBron)...What are you getting at? I just don't think LeBron's up there yet, THAT'S IT.
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By boosting players like Pierce or Wade, you're aiming at putting LeBron down. Since he's the biggest threat when it comes to taking Kobe's spot, and you know it. Enough psychology for the day.
The Heat would be a lot more dangerous if they had LeBron instead of Wade. Pierce is having the season of his career solo-wise so far, but he's had enough seasons already to tell that he's not up there with Kobe and McGrady+Iverson. He's like Vince minus the injuries and dunks. No threat to Kobe. LeBron is.
LOL...You're just looking too deeply into it. I simply don't think LeBron is as great as people make him out to be...Until he proves it to me by achieving something, I will continue thinking that way. Paul Pierce has played great basketball his whole career, I'd actually take him over McGrady or Vince...I just don't think anyone in the league is seeing Kobe.
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32 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 5 steals, no overtime. LeBron James.
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32 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 5 steals, no overtime. LeBron James.
What's your point? That's a regular tripple-double...Lamar Odom has a gang of those. Does that make him the "king"...LMAO.
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**taken from a post in The Official LA Lakers Thread which was never directly replied to**
Kobe Career Stats - 22.6 PPG, 4.5 Assists, 5.1 Rebounds, 45% FG, 2.8 TO, 1.4 Steals
Pippen Career Stats - 16.1 PPG, 5.2 Assists, 6.4 Rebounds, 47.3% FG, 2.8 TO, 2.0 Steals
think about this one too, the year Jordan retired, Pippen took the Bulls to the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals where they would lose in 7 games to the knicks in the 93-94 season
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**taken from a post in The Official LA Lakers Thread which was never directly replied to**
Kobe Career Stats - 22.6 PPG, 4.5 Assists, 5.1 Rebounds, 45% FG, 2.8 TO, 1.4 Steals
Pippen Career Stats - 16.1 PPG, 5.2 Assists, 6.4 Rebounds, 47.3% FG, 2.8 TO, 2.0 Steals
think about this one too, the year Jordan retired, Pippen took the Bulls to the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals where they would lose in 7 games to the knicks in the 93-94 season
So?
Man the triangle is very hard to understand, it needs time and experience. That team was fucking great playing triangle before Jordan left, and it continued (with Phil as a coach) to play excellent triangle basketball. Maybe the best i've ever seen. Look: the more a team knows/apply triangle, the more it can survive the departure of a superstar. That team did it very well.
Those Lakers doesn't know how to play triangle.
That's the very simple difference.
Last year Lakers changed a coach, the whole playbook.. You can't arrive to the Conference Finals in a situation like this. But i'm sure if they'll not change this roster so much and maybe they'll add a good center, next year, with more triangle experience, this team could arrive to the Conference Finals too. It's all about experience. A single player (expecially a SG or a SF) can't win the NBA title alone.
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**taken from a post in The Official LA Lakers Thread which was never directly replied to**
Kobe Career Stats - 22.6 PPG, 4.5 Assists, 5.1 Rebounds, 45% FG, 2.8 TO, 1.4 Steals
Pippen Career Stats - 16.1 PPG, 5.2 Assists, 6.4 Rebounds, 47.3% FG, 2.8 TO, 2.0 Steals
think about this one too, the year Jordan retired, Pippen took the Bulls to the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals where they would lose in 7 games to the knicks in the 93-94 season
LMFAO. PLEASE don't tell me you're comparing Kobe to Pippen...LOLOLOLOL. Pippen had the same exact team + head coach. The only difference was that Jordan left...The Lakers were basically an expansion team last year...NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER.
Kobe's career stats are also down, because it took him time before he developed into something...His first years in the league, he was young and not the Kobe we know today. He averaged like 7 points in his rookie season... LOL@your comparisons.
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next year, with more triangle experience, this team could arrive to the Conference Finals too.
Next year? Shit NBA analyst Gregg Anthony's bold statement was that the Lakers would be in the WC finals THIS year...I'm hopin' for that one to be true...
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thank you 4 the reply boys..i didn't take that into consideration but i still believe Jordan >> Kobe > Pippen
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LeBron James is a MAN CHILD
50.4 FG% 30.6 PPG 6.5 RPG 5.8 APG 1.8 SPG 0.9 BPG
he's only 21!!! :o :o :o
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oh yeah, and Cleveland is 4th in the Eastern Conference..8-2 in their last 10 games
no larry hughes, but LeBron is jus KILLIN IT
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oh yeah, and Cleveland is 4th in the Eastern Conference..8-2 in their last 10 games
no larry hughes, but LeBron is jus KILLIN IT
Yup...I was right. Did you not see my predictions for Cleveland in the off-season?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81407.0
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You were certainly right about Cleveland in the 4th spot
but you were wrong about Miami falling off and Boston hasn't had a winning record in any month (with respect to Dickau's injury)
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You were certainly right about Cleveland in the 4th spot
but you were wrong about Miami falling off and Boston hasn't had a winning record in any month (with respect to Dickau's injury)
I was wrong about Miami falling off? Even though their record around this time of year last year was more than twice as good? LOL...And Boston is known to make a run towards the end of the season. Their chemistry hasn't flown well and their injuries have been horrible. They'll prevail though...All their games are close. I have high hopes for their new starting 5:
PG Delonte West...Marcus Banks/Dan Dickau*
SG Ricky Davis...Tony Allen/Orien Green
SF Paul Pierce...Ryan Gomes/Gerald Green**
PF Al Jefferson...Brian Scalbrine/Justin Reed
C Mark Blount...Raef Lafrentz/Kendrick Perkins
Coach: Doc Rivers
*=injured
**=playing in D-League
AJ has his chance to shine...He WILL become an elite PF in this league, mark my words.