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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Quadruple OG on March 24, 2002, 10:58:27 AM
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just got the new XXL with Suge, Nina, Crooked I, Eastwood, and Kurupt on the cover. I hate to dissapoint the Suge/Tha Row haters, but this cover story is a very positive story, like the one that appeared in King Magazine a few months ago. Many good points in here made. One quote that I found very interesting, and makes me anticipate Suge releasing new albums even more is what XXL had to say bout the new music:
"But what everyone- from his detractors to his fans, his old artists to his new ones- really wants from Knight is for him to put up or shut up; to make hits....A taste of the new music from Tha Row proves that Knight may just be able to make an impact on the music scene above and beyond his acerbic, jaw-dropping commentary. Tha Row's new material is possibly some of the best stuff to come from the West Coast in years and marks a serious evolution for the company. Where Death Row was more about music, attitude and a lifestyle, Tha Row has MC's, guys that can and will spit flames.
Suge on Nas: I'ma do some stuff with Nas in the future...I don't want to ruin the suprise
Suge on Kurupt's homies: I'm not here to choose his friends. And if any of them are real friends, they gonna respect him and respect where he be and stuff he wanna do. I know they didn't want to battle against Kurupt lyrically cuz none of them guys can fuck with him on the mic. And, you know, physically he's on Tha Row now. It's not like they can jump him and rush him. That'll be stupid.
He also mentions how he decided NOT to sign Ray J and how there's another artist, a "Row Princess" that's ready to be released. It's a very good article, and I know the Suge haters won't like it because there is no mention of Snoop baing a coward or Dre being a bitch and it focuses on the future of the label.
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cool imma get that tommorow. But u know people will still diss Suge Knight for being a "bitch" like if they knew the guy
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It's a very good article, and I know the Suge haters won't like it because there is no mention of Snoop baing a coward or Dre being a bitch and it focuses on the future of the label.
i agree with the most things you said, but I think ppl WILL like it for the fact that he's talkin about the label for once and not about snoop or dre. im not a death row hater, but i just hate it when suge is talkin about them and dissin their careers in every damn interview. but as long as he's doin his thang and moving things, i respect him.
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Tight! Crooked I must have an amazing album if XXL is impressed. I don't really care about Suge, just his artists. The only major problem I have with Tha Row is that they take forever to drop albums. Crooked I, Kurupt and Eastwood are the only artists I'll be supporting from that company. They need to focus on more raw MC's than "princesses". I gotta cop that issue.
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As long as the row puts out good music and puts an end to the stupid Dre and Snoop bashing I will probably check for them...Kurupt is one of my favorite artists and Crooked I is dope...
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Suge on Kurupt's homies: I'm not here to choose his friends. And if any of them are real friends, they gonna respect him and respect where he be and stuff he wanna do. I know they didn't want to battle against Kurupt lyrically cuz none of them guys can fuck with him on the mic. And, you know, physically he's on Tha Row now. It's not like they can jump him and rush him. That'll be stupid.
fuck suge knight...its rediculous for him to talk shit like that...see even tho he's tryin to be positive (suge), always manages to throw in some bullshit like that. thats why we hate suge. >:(
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man suge isnt even hating there how can you hate? god damn, anyways aslong as suge is like this and on a positive note, then its all good, i got respect for him, i can give a shit if he has beef with snoop. just aslong he doesnt diss him in every sentence out of his mouth, cause that shit is soo old, anyways, i gotta get this shit, and cant wait for that crooked i album
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sounds tight as fuck, although im not a big fan of tha row, simply cuz they always diss snoop, dre etc., this article sounds tight. This is what suge really has to do, focus on the label and making big hits and money. Instead of only dissing make something happen. He has a lot of artists and yet he only brought out a best of snoop album and dogg pound 2002 sice he is out of jail. That aint even his shit no more.
Btw what happened to lil' c style? I havent heared a thing from him since suge is back. What's up with that? Lil' c style is dope as fuck, someone have a idea what happened?
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Suge on Nas: I'ma do some stuff with Nas in the future...I don't want to ruin the suprise
Nas working with the row, sounds interesting. But Suge might be lying ya never know. I guess ya just have to sit back and see what happens. I gotta say that Crooked i's new album is my most anticipated cd at the moment.
Thanks 4 the tight article, it sounds good.
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I gotta say that Crooked i's new album is my most anticipated cd at the moment.
Thanks 4 the tight article, it sounds good.
same here
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i'm not hating but talk is cheap, until he can deliver a quality album like everyone who has left the row have, DR is still a fallen empire, again i'm not hating but dre and snoop have proven that they can succeed without suge and DR, now it's time to see if suge can succeed without them
one thing that i find funny is where suge says "I know they didn't want to battle against Kurupt lyrically cuz none of them guys can fuck with him on the mic" i dunno about y'all but either suge hasn't been able to hear kurupt's last album and apperances where he's lyricallly subpar compared to xzibit, tray deee, bad azz, Em, hitt, ras kass, saafir, tash, j-ro, wc, Who are all down with kurupt and can be thrown into that friends list, or he just doesn't even know these artist exist, i love kurupt but y'all got to admit that kurupt has fallen off more than snoop , even unbiased people on sohh.com will tell you that , he went from having rakim like skills to having almost nelly like skills in the past 1 and a half years
again i'm not hating AT ALL , becauese this is the honest to god truth y'all
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I feel ya homie...but how much of this falloff has to do with the fact that Kurupt maybe hasn't had any motivation in his life as far as being the one.
On Deathrow he was the illest...Let's face it.
When he was making his shit on the solo tip he was an average mc.
He now has the burden to be the illest again, He's on the Row...he must come with the real or he won't be accepted by the masses.
it's like we expect more from Kurupt now that he is back in his root's.
I have nothin' but faith in Kurupt, I know when and if his "new" Tha row shitt drop's it'll make more than our Mouth drop to the floor it'll make the whole world admire the skillz that Kurupt has always had, when a man is pushed to his limit's he can come up with masterful shitt, Right now Kurupt has alot to prove, and I will say that on his new shitt, alot of muthaphucca's will change they note on him.
Everyone know's what he is capable of....And when we over accede our limit's..we excel.
Hatesrats 2oo2
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i'm not hating but talk is cheap, until he can deliver a quality album like everyone who has left the row have, DR is still a fallen empire, again i'm not hating but dre and snoop have proven that they can succeed without suge and DR, now it's time to see if suge can succeed without them
one thing that i find funny is where suge says "I know they didn't want to battle against Kurupt lyrically cuz none of them guys can fuck with him on the mic" i dunno about y'all but either suge hasn't been able to hear kurupt's last album and apperances where he's lyricallly subpar compared to xzibit, tray deee, bad azz, Em, hitt, ras kass, saafir, tash, j-ro, wc, Who are all down with kurupt and can be thrown into that friends list, or he just doesn't even know these artist exist, i love kurupt but y'all got to admit that kurupt has fallen off more than snoop , even unbiased people on sohh.com will tell you that , he went from having rakim like skills to having almost nelly like skills in the past 1 and a half years
again i'm not hating AT ALL , becauese this is the honest to god truth y'all
On Point,like always.
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i'm not hating but talk is cheap, until he can deliver a quality album like everyone who has left the row have, DR is still a fallen empire, again i'm not hating but dre and snoop have proven that they can succeed without suge and DR, now it's time to see if suge can succeed without them
one thing that i find funny is where suge says "I know they didn't want to battle against Kurupt lyrically cuz none of them guys can fuck with him on the mic" i dunno about y'all but either suge hasn't been able to hear kurupt's last album and apperances where he's lyricallly subpar compared to xzibit, tray deee, bad azz, Em, hitt, ras kass, saafir, tash, j-ro, wc, Who are all down with kurupt and can be thrown into that friends list, or he just doesn't even know these artist exist, i love kurupt but y'all got to admit that kurupt has fallen off more than snoop , even unbiased people on sohh.com will tell you that , he went from having rakim like skills to having almost nelly like skills in the past 1 and a half years
again i'm not hating AT ALL , becauese this is the honest to god truth y'all
I feel where you coming from but you have to give Tha Row a chance because they havnt even had a chance to release any solos. I say Dre is a sucess but Snoop not really. Look at all his label releases and they almost all flopped. As an entertainer Snoop is cool, but he's not a very good business man when it comes to promoting.
I know Kurupt fell off and his last album was trash. But Isn't it kinda Ironic that when he wasn't signed back to Tha Row how most of you were saying how good he still was and how great Space Boogie was? LOL Kurupt fell off more then Snoop? Ok I leave that one along. Do it hurt you to give Tha Row props even when they speaking on postive shit about they future?
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I feel where you coming from but you have to give Tha Row a chance because they havnt even had a chance to release any solos. I say Dre is a sucess but Snoop not really. Look at all his label releases and they almost all flopped. As an entertainer Snoop is cool, but he's not a very good business man when it comes to promoting.
I know Kurupt fell off and his last album was trash. But Isn't it kinda Ironic that when he wasn't signed back to Tha Row how most of you were saying how good he still was and how great Space Boogie was? LOL Kurupt fell off more then Snoop? Ok I leave that one along. Do it hurt you to give Tha Row props even when they speaking on postive shit about they future?
snoop is still very much a success IMO opinion becuase he's still selling double platnum with his albums, and all of his releases on dogg house have been really great except the bones sndtrk, the first eastsidaz was amazing and a very good album, bad azz's album was westcoast album of the year last year imo, dueces and trays was aright and doggys angels...uh well that had good production lol. and if you are were from cali you'd know how much snoop has take back the west since dropping tha last meal, plus all of the albums he's released have gone gold except doggstyle's angles which is excellent considering the fact he was distributing through tvt whose poor as fuck and priority whose on the verge of going out of bus. plus i measure success in quality not quantity
and about space boogie, i've always maintained that it was trash i'll go back into archives if you want and proove my point lol
i doubt kurupt will all of the sudden be great again just becuase he's on the row, seriously how would this happen unless crooked i started writing his lyrics?
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NAS AND CROOKED I AND KURUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*stares at computer in disbelief*
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i'm not hating but talk is cheap, until he can deliver a quality album like everyone who has left the row have, DR is still a fallen empire, again i'm not hating but dre and snoop have proven that they can succeed without suge and DR, now it's time to see if suge can succeed without them
one thing that i find funny is where suge says "I know they didn't want to battle against Kurupt lyrically cuz none of them guys can fuck with him on the mic" i dunno about y'all but either suge hasn't been able to hear kurupt's last album and apperances where he's lyricallly subpar compared to xzibit, tray deee, bad azz, Em, hitt, ras kass, saafir, tash, j-ro, wc, Who are all down with kurupt and can be thrown into that friends list, or he just doesn't even know these artist exist, i love kurupt but y'all got to admit that kurupt has fallen off more than snoop , even unbiased people on sohh.com will tell you that , he went from having rakim like skills to having almost nelly like skills in the past 1 and a half years
again i'm not hating AT ALL , becauese this is the honest to god truth y'all
kurupt fallen off more than snoop???? your fucking crazy..streets of mutha is better than any of snoops albums except for doggystyle...yeah space boogie was whack but its obivious he needed money....
the that one dude that said you hate suge because he disses dre and snoop....man shut the fuck up....you act like dre and snoop doesn't diss......and matter of fact snoop was the FIRST to diss the row by making that "fuck death row" song so...... ::) even snoop said it himself in an interview..he said he dissed cuz he knew death row would diss him so......
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Tight! Crooked I must have an amazing album if XXL is impressed..
where u get that from? it says no where they'd even heard it.. the closest to anything like that is what Mack_11 highlighted in bold (which i'm gonna speak on anyway).
Here's my take on it.......
Tha Row's new material is possibly some of the best stuff to come from the West Coast in years and marks a serious evolution for the company. Where Death Row was more about music, attitude and a lifestyle, Tha Row has MC's, guys that can and will spit flames.
u know what means? jack shit. its media bullshit
it says that they MIGHT have something... hell it doesn't even say they've heard a thing. 'its possible' means nothing. its possible i will find a bag with 1,000,000 cash in random unmarked bills on my way home from work tonight.
Tha Row's new material could possibly be the biggest bunch of washed up pop bullshit since Its Over. Maybe Kurupts really there teaching people how to sell out. Dropping a track with sisqo is a helluva start in this direction.
I know this sounds ultra sceptical.. but with death row u never know.. if they tellin the truth that is. They try and play games with shit.. remember suge's just admitted how he used top dogg (snoop-a-like) tha realest (wannabe 2pac) to irritate people... the Row's own forum is now almost dead. they hyped and hyped 'tha realest' and now he's been ditched.
TGFR proved that the Row's own artists couldn't do shit... ATL and Dresta had the only decent tracks on it. ATL were never properly on the row, only hutch was for production duties.
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The only way suge can get attention is with beefs(snoop dre,
jd,puffy....)and bullshit rumors(do y'all remember the J.lo supposed tape??F A K E ).
Fuk suge knight!
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i am a Suge hater because he have sayd that DRE is an homo.
the new shit looks goooooooood
FUCK SUGE
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plus all of the albums he's released have gone gold except doggstyle's angles
you forgot that Bad Azz and Bones soundtrack didn't go gold either.
u know what means? jack shit. its media bullshit
it says that they MIGHT have something... hell it doesn't even say they've heard a thing. 'its possible' means nothing. its possible i will find a bag with 1,000,000 cash in random unmarked bills on my way home from work tonight.
Tha Row's new material could possibly be the biggest bunch of washed up pop bullshit since Its Over. Maybe Kurupts really there teaching people how to sell out. Dropping a track with sisqo is a helluva start in this direction.
XXL might have heard more of the newer shit they've been recording before they made that statement, and if they did, they'd have a better judgement because of how much more of the shit they got to listen to than what's already out there.
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I dont really like Crooked I...I aint heard alot of his shit but his voice was kind of annoying to me
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I feel ya homie...but how much of this falloff has to do with the fact that Kurupt maybe hasn't had any motivation in his life as far as being the one.
On Deathrow he was the illest...Let's face it.
When he was making his shit on the solo tip he was an average mc.
He now has the burden to be the illest again, He's on the Row...he must come with the real or he won't be accepted by the masses.
it's like we expect more from Kurupt now that he is back in his root's.
I have nothin' but faith in Kurupt, I know when and if his "new" Tha row shitt drop's it'll make more than our Mouth drop to the floor it'll make the whole world admire the skillz that Kurupt has always had, when a man is pushed to his limit's he can come up with masterful shitt, Right now Kurupt has alot to prove, and I will say that on his new shitt, alot of muthaphucca's will change they note on him.
Everyone know's what he is capable of....And when we over accede our limit's..we excel.
Hatesrats 2oo2
i agree
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i'm not hating but talk is cheap, until he can deliver a quality album like everyone who has left the row have, DR is still a fallen empire, again i'm not hating but dre and snoop have proven that they can succeed without suge and DR, now it's time to see if suge can succeed without them
thats IT!
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i don't give a shit bout the row, so if i'm buying this mag , it ain't for the cover or the interview
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i don't give a shit bout the row, so if i'm buying this mag , it ain't for the cover or the interview
Of course you don't whatever Snoop don't like you don't like.
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Yo does any one have the scan of the cover...?
hook it up if u git one.
I would if I had a scanner...But i'm broker than the ten comandments.
peace
Hatesrats 2oo2
(Ps If anyone has any tight pics of crooked I hook me up, I'll get back at ya any way I can)
Hatesrats@hotmail.com
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where u get that from? it says no where they'd even heard it.. the closest to anything like that is what Mack_11 highlighted in bold (which i'm gonna speak on anyway).
Here's my take on it.......
u know what means? jack shit. its media bullshit
it says that they MIGHT have something... hell it doesn't even say they've heard a thing. 'its possible' means nothing. its possible i will find a bag with 1,000,000 cash in random unmarked bills on my way home from work tonight.
Tha Row's new material could possibly be the biggest bunch of washed up pop bullshit since Its Over. Maybe Kurupts really there teaching people how to sell out. Dropping a track with sisqo is a helluva start in this direction.
I know this sounds ultra sceptical.. but with death row u never know.. if they tellin the truth that is. They try and play games with shit.. remember suge's just admitted how he used top dogg (snoop-a-like) tha realest (wannabe 2pac) to irritate people... the Row's own forum is now almost dead. they hyped and hyped 'tha realest' and now he's been ditched.
TGFR proved that the Row's own artists couldn't do shit... ATL and Dresta had the only decent tracks on it. ATL were never properly on the row, only hutch was for production duties.
Word!.. DR aint released a solo album of new material since Michelle. They got alot to prove. Crooked I should be tight.. and so should Kurupt / Roscoe's group. I'll support who ever is makin good music out The West. DR gotta prove that they can do just that.. MAKE GOOD MUSIC!
Ax
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you forgot that Bad Azz and Bones soundtrack didn't go gold either.
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bad azz went gold
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bad azz went gold
Jake you are sure about it?
Personal business went gold?
I thought 200.000 copies
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i checked the riaa website, and Bad Azz didn't go gold. the number of albums he really sold is between 250,000 and 350,000. And since u are probably gonna doubt this, The Wash soundtrack was listed on there as going gold.
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How many copies for BONES OST?
Hey,look at it....this is my 213 post. ;D
I represnt the 213!
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I wonder from how many stories up Suge and his boys were dangling Kurupt when they forced him to sign with Tha Row. There is no denying that Crooked I and Kurupt have talent, but this is coming from the same label that made the bitch moves of developing designer imposter versions of their departed and dead stars (what ever happened to "Tha Realest" and "Topp Dogg" anyway?). How much faith can you have in Kurupt after that absolutely horrible guest shot on that Nate remix -he's so bad that he actually gets ripped by that punk Fabolus. I used to think that no one in the game ripped it like Kurupt (and on about one or two tracks on each of his solo albums he still proves he's got it - too bad it's one or two tracks out of 16 or 17), but no one can say that he's still hungry like he was on Dogg Food - maybe-hopefully-he'll prove me wrong, but I don't expect much. Anyone who wants to know how Suge likes to conduct business, read Have Gun, Will Travel by Ronin Ro. It has a lot of behind the scenes information about Death Row's golden period.
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HOW CAN SUGE SAY NO ONE FROM DPG CAN SEE KURUPT ON THE MIC WHEN SNOOP SHITED ALL OVER HIM ON HIS OWN ALBUM. IM TALKIN BOUT "BRING BACK THAT G SHIT". KURUPT IS DEAD IM SORRY BUT DEAD. THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT SPACE BOOGIE WAS FRED WRECK. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED FRED WRECK FT. KURUPT. HE SOLD LESS RECORDS THAN BAD AZZ. SO REALLY WHAT GOOD DID SUGE DO IN SIGNING HIM ANYWAY.
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the only good suge did was to take him from snoop and dre.....so now he could make a little more contraversy............kurupts talanted but i don't think he's ever gonna sell much again and even if he did he's got 2 albums on antra.....he also better step up his lyrics cause he's not gonna have any fredwreck beats to save him on this one
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Yo this is something I was wondering the other day....If Kurupt owe's Antra 2 more lp's to meet up to contractual obligation, could he insted release his next album's under the moniker of Tha Row/Antra and get out of his deal by having both distribute the cd.
Antra will get their lp's he owe's them, Don't think anyone would go for that one tho.
But shitt I bet Kurupt would like that shitt as aposed to have to record like 3 albums in a year or 2. (Which I beleive is every hip-hop head's time limit pretty much)
Just thinkin'
Holla
Hatesrats 2oo2
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Of course you don't whatever Snoop don't like you don't like.
wow, bitch shut the fuck up !
and riaa and soundscan is bullshit , i don't trust em', call the labels
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and riaa and soundscan is bullshit , i don't trust em', call the labels
and you think the labels won't bullshit you with their figures?
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or, he could do a Defari ala Billy The Kid & release them under another name.. or he might be signed as part of a group, not a solo artist, or he could put out an album full of leftovers (if he has any).