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Title: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Perfection on January 08, 2006, 07:46:49 PM
Cena won the Elimination Chamber tonight, but right after the match Edge used his Money in the Bank cause & 2 spears & a 1:46 later, we have a new WWE Champion.
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: herpes on January 08, 2006, 09:20:35 PM
wow this takes me back to 1999 when the wwf actually had pleasant surprises that made sense and fans wanted to see
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: herpes on January 08, 2006, 09:23:57 PM
(http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/1914060)
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: 'DsR' on January 08, 2006, 09:32:34 PM
lol @ the belt being a "spinning belt" god has wrestling ever turned gay.
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Post by: Macaframa on January 08, 2006, 09:43:15 PM
^^^^ ahha thats tru. Cena has ruined wrestling for ever i hate that guy and im glad he aint the champ no more
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: P Nelson on January 08, 2006, 09:44:48 PM
FINALLY, a new champ! I was so sick and tired to see John Cena with the belt...


Edge champion? I bet Carlito is gonna try to become the champ now 8)

Edit: By the way, there's nothing wrong with the Spinning belt, I find it actualy dope. Who complained about the Million Dollar Belt?
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 08, 2006, 10:06:56 PM
I'm no Edge fan, but that's a great move on WWE's part. It came way out of left field and it'll cause a buzz. This is like when The Rock won that championship tournament to become WWF champ for the first time. People were expecting an already established name to win.
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Post by: 'DsR' on January 08, 2006, 11:03:58 PM
I'm no Edge fan, but that's a great move on WWE's part. It came way out of left field and it'll cause a buzz. This is like when The Rock won that championship tournament to become WWF champ for the first time. People were expecting an already established name to win.

true.
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on January 09, 2006, 04:31:57 AM
wow this takes me back to 1999 when the wwf actually had pleasant surprises that made sense and fans wanted to see
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Trauma-san on January 09, 2006, 06:06:00 AM
I dunno, I thought it was better when Hogan did it to Yokozuna. 


At least they're trying something different.  I'll bet Cena's pissed, everybody was starting to boo him.  I've always thought his wigger gimmick was so fucking rediculous, the guy is the most horrible (and I mean, the MOST horrible) rapper I have ever seen.  Vanilla Ice was 5 times the rapper John Cena is.  Anybody noticed all of his raps are limericks?  How hard is it to call the other guy a faggot when you wrestle him?  I was never a fan, and he cannot turn heel with that stupid ass gimmick, or people will laugh his ass out of the building. 
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Post by: Larrabee on January 09, 2006, 08:28:47 AM
Cena's run as champ did grow stale, plus I think it's good to see someone else with the title. It'll be interesting to see where things go from here. On a side note, it looks like Batista might be dropping his title as well. Another injury for him, no word on the extent just yet.
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on January 09, 2006, 09:13:20 AM
wat u guys have been sayin is soo true i have been sayin it all day, its a good turn cus no one saw this comin not even me and i predicted everythin 100% this ppv! i knew wat elimantions and who woz gonna enter the chamber first, i even guessed they would have interference in the diva battle royal,

Did u hear kurt tho! the wwe r tryin everythin to make him the bad guy and people are lovin him, i quote this he even said

"I'm Not Too Fond Of The Black Fokes!"

after sayin that the fans still love him!!!!!!
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on January 09, 2006, 09:30:23 AM
i wonder wut'll happen wit Cena now...i read that they were gonna keep him champion til around Royal Rumble where he would end up losin to HHH so he mite retain the title sumwhere down the line (i hope he duznt)

ppl backstage say that hez startin to get bothered by the "boos" hez receivin; i dont think him turnin heel would be ruled out for 3 reasonz:
1) wen the whole thugged out gimmick started, he was heel (gimmick was styll terrible tho)
2) if they want him to stay face, they would probably lower his status to try and prevent most of the "boos"; i doubt WWE would do ths cause they are high on Cena from wut ive read (then again anything can happen in the WWE)
3) it would be the biggest heel turn to happen since the Rock...this could lead to higher ratingz if they give him a big face to feud with (e.g. HBK)

as for Batista, itz gotta suck to be in his position rite now (i think he he tore his tricep durin a house show after Mark Henry awkwardly landed on him)...i wonder wutz gonna happen now with Smackdown and the championship...maybe sum sort of small 8-man tournament...
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Post by: $do11a biLL$ on January 09, 2006, 09:59:45 AM
Wow, that was the gayest thing on wrestling ive seen this year so far. What a bitch thing to do buying a title match and wrestling him right after Cena was in the worst shape possible to wrestle. At least they could've had the match on Raw tonight. What the fuck is wrong with WWE anyways? they make a lame wrestler with a lame finisher like Edge win the title especially in a stupid ass way like what happened last night and they didn't even put Christian in main event status while he was in WWE and he is 10X better than Edge has ever been. So after this the way i look at things now, TNA>>>>WWE
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Post by: $do11a biLL$ on January 09, 2006, 10:01:25 AM
http://youtube.com/w/Edge-defeats-John-Cena-for-WWE-Title-at-NYR-2006-%21%21%21?v=C4oJjUxR3mI&search=WWE

theres the link of Edge winning the title for who hasnt seen it yet
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Post by: P Nelson on January 09, 2006, 10:42:44 AM
HUGE props for the video ... daaaammmnn it's been a long time I havent been so happy by a WWE Champ, it felt just like the Montreal Canadiens just won the Stanley Cup! No More Cena!
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Perfection on January 09, 2006, 10:45:50 AM
I was never a fan, and he cannot turn heel with that stupid ass gimmick, or people will laugh his ass out of the building. 

What do you mean he can't turn heel with his gimmick? Him being heel with this gimmick is what got him his popularity. When he was the heel, he wrote his own stuff & was allowed to be more of a wrestler in the ring. Since turning face, the WWE creative team has been writing his stuff & he's only been allowed to do about 5 moves in the ring. Cena will turn heel, & he'll quickly become what he was & he'll probably end up having a title regin has a heel.
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Post by: Kal EL on January 09, 2006, 12:04:22 PM
I think that Angle deserved the Title MORE than Edge. Angle has been putting on 5 star matches for the past year. but we will see where this goes.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 09, 2006, 01:27:01 PM
Cena only gets cheers from little kids anyways. Nobody else likes him. The reason he fell off so bad is because they tried to make him invincible. He kept defying the odds time and time again and people got bored. Plus doing shoulder tackles, punches and FU's doesn't really light the crowd on fire either.
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Post by: 'DsR' on January 09, 2006, 01:56:54 PM
HUGE props for the video ... daaaammmnn it's been a long time I havent been so happy by a WWE Champ, it felt just like the Montreal Canadiens just won the Stanley Cup! No More Cena!

man, its been 13 LONG years since the habs won the cup.. and at the rate they're going at, it'll be another 13 :-\ :'(
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Post by: P Nelson on January 09, 2006, 02:23:06 PM
HUGE props for the video ... daaaammmnn it's been a long time I havent been so happy by a WWE Champ, it felt just like the Montreal Canadiens just won the Stanley Cup! No More Cena!

man, its been 13 LONG years since the habs won the cup.. and at the rate they're going at, it'll be another 13 :-\ :'(

Don't worry about it... maybe in a year or 2.. Kovalev,Koivu,Ryder,Kostytsin,Perezhogin, Latendresse, Locke, Chipchura, Bulis... are gonna be our top 9 forwards. Souray is getting is game back, Markov is MV-playing, Bouillon is allright.. we need some help in that department but we'll be good soon

I CANT wait for Raw Tonight
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: 'DsR' on January 09, 2006, 03:09:40 PM
HUGE props for the video ... daaaammmnn it's been a long time I havent been so happy by a WWE Champ, it felt just like the Montreal Canadiens just won the Stanley Cup! No More Cena!

man, its been 13 LONG years since the habs won the cup.. and at the rate they're going at, it'll be another 13 :-\ :'(

Don't worry about it... maybe in a year or 2.. Kovalev,Koivu,Ryder,Kostytsin,Perezhogin, Latendresse, Locke, Chipchura, Bulis... are gonna be our top 9 forwards. Souray is getting is game back, Markov is MV-playing, Bouillon is allright.. we need some help in that department but we'll be good soon

I CANT wait for Raw Tonight


yeah, but can they ALL stay healthy?? that seems to be another problem
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on January 09, 2006, 03:13:57 PM
Cena only gets cheers from little kids anyways. Nobody else likes him. The reason he fell off so bad is because they tried to make him invincible. He kept defying the odds time and time again and people got bored. Plus doing shoulder tackles, punches and FU's doesn't really light the crowd on fire either.

Mayb but hes still betta than the stereotype wrestler thats vince brings in like chris masters! huge muscles, no personality, Cena has great charisma people r jus bored wit the same thing over and over with him tho, i would of liked to see Kane as the champ have a monster wit the title who could whoop ass everywhere like the old undertaker!!!  :D
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: P Nelson on January 09, 2006, 03:22:20 PM
http://youtube.com/w/Edge-defeats-John-Cena-for-WWE-Title-at-NYR-2006-%21%21%21?v=C4oJjUxR3mI&search=WWE

theres the link of Edge winning the title for who hasnt seen it yet

WWE is gangsta, the vid is not available anymore... everytime a WWE hits that site, it's down about a couple of days after
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Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on January 09, 2006, 04:53:13 PM
I hate Edge,
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Post by: westkoastanostra on January 10, 2006, 01:04:20 AM
I THINK ITS GOOD THAT THEY'LL MAKE CENA BORED...BEING A BABY FACE GETS STALE....REMEMBER WHEN PPL WERE BOOING THE ROCK BACK IN 03? HE THEN TURNED HEEL AND PPL LIKED HIM AGAIN....
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Post by: Conan on January 10, 2006, 02:35:22 PM
Cena only gets cheers from little kids anyways. Nobody else likes him. The reason he fell off so bad is because they tried to make him invincible. He kept defying the odds time and time again and people got bored. Plus doing shoulder tackles, punches and FU's doesn't really light the crowd on fire either.

Seriously, Cena is so bad (both wrestling and rapping wise) that you can only laugh at him. I find him funny as hell just for those reasons. He may be a WWE wrestler, but in every other way he is the modern day Vanilla Ice. Add to that the fact that dude had the NERVE to release an album!

I only watch wrestling now and again when I'm at my friends house, since he started getting into it again recently. Surprised to read that Angle's become a 'face' now....although he was never a total heel or face back when I watched regularly. I found him hilarious when he had the whole family values, perfect American "Three I's" gimmick though.

Is HHH still a factor these days? Last I saw, he was feuding with the Big Show but he used to be unstoppable...
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: HD on January 11, 2006, 10:23:46 AM
Fuck Edge...

But the WWE did a good job surprising us like hell!
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 11, 2006, 10:28:44 AM
At least they're trying to create new main eventers. They gotta step up the mid card game and things would be much better.
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Kal EL on January 11, 2006, 02:13:59 PM
At least they're trying to create new main eventers. They gotta step up the mid card game and things would be much better.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

that and QUIT letting HHH telegraph that he can be champ whenever his "Daddy in Law" agrees to it. I mean really, HHH had the nerve to say on Raw that he would win the Rumble and win at WM. The sad part is that he may end up doing exactly that, EXACTLY. why watch? gimmie someone else winning the rumble and take the strap off Edge. other candidates for holding it until WM are Kane, Big Show and I hate to admit it HHH. let him win it now and drop it at WM. HHH is okay as champ for 2 or three months but he becomes too much all the time.

last year the WWF(will not call it WWE) made a major statement that the company was about grooming its younger and untapped talent to begin to main event. HHH winning is the complete opposite of that.
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Post by: Trauma-san on January 11, 2006, 03:04:53 PM
^ You're being irrational.  First, of course HHH said he's going to win.  I understand what you're saying, but his entire character is and has always been very arrogant.  Every wrestler says they're going to win. 

Second, of course Vince is going to let HHH have the belt whenever he wants it.  He's his son.  They're probably very close.  That's just how it's going to be.

Third, HHH has actually been away from the belt and the spotlight a very long time.  He's jobbed to several wrestlers since then, which is rare for him.  He's jobbed more since marrying Steph than he did before that.  Just a couple weeks ago he jobbed to Ric Flair, didn't he?  And before that to Batista several times, and he gets punked on television all the time by Flair or the Big Show.  I think HHH is running pretty good angles right now, he's got some decent feuds going.  Given his status with the company, it's just a foregone conclusion though that he's going to be champ frequently, I think he's done a good job of staying away from the belt, myself.

The WWE has done a great job of pushing the younger guys in the last few years, as well.  Cena came out of nowhere to be champ.  Edge was elevated to main event status, and given the belt.  Batista came out of nowhere to be champ.  Before him Lesnar was champ (a few years ago).  Guerrero was champ (although he wasn't young of course).  They've done an excellent job of spreading the title around, and also letting guys like Batista and Cena keep the belts for several months to help build the credibility of the belt back up.  AS A MATTER OF FACT, HHH lost the belt more often than these new guys have!  Batista has had the belt for several several months, and HHH had spells where he did as well, but there was also a period about two years ago when HHH traded the belt back and forth with Hogan and Michaels if I remember correctly. 

I think they're doing a pretty good job, actually. 
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: acbaylove on January 11, 2006, 05:17:15 PM
HHH is the only guy i enjoy watching in todays wrestling..
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Post by: M Dogg™ on January 11, 2006, 05:57:47 PM
My humble opinion, HHH and Kurt Angle are the only two guys right now worth holding a World Title. I would love to see Angle hold his title for over a year, and HHH win the title are Wrestlemania, and hold that title until Wrestlemania 23, when they face each other in a unification match, to see who is truly the greatest wrestler of this generation. It'd be the new Flair/Steamboat, if Michaels ever fought Sting, it'd be the biggest stage for the two best WRESTLERS in WWE today. Vince would be wise to have that match, hold the title on each to build how strong each person is, and let them go on the biggest stage to see who is the best.

As for Edge winning the title, I think it's good. I think he deserves it, and his wrestling career backs that up. It's a matter of having the image of a champion. He reminds me of HHH when he won it in 1999. No one thought he was a good champ, hell, they reunited D-X as hells because he needed to have back up to be seen as at least a coward cheating champ. Then the marriage angle, and HHH hit gold. Edge is in a better position, and he can actually have people cheering FOR Cena. His a good heel, and should keep the title until Wrestlemania when HHH takes it, or if HHH wants to wait to become champ, I'm fine with that.
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Post by: $do11a biLL$ on January 11, 2006, 06:46:07 PM
ever since the first time  HHH won the championship ive always thought he was great he was even my favorite wrestler for a while but now his gimmick is getting way to old and boring
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 11, 2006, 11:33:25 PM
Before his serious leg injury, HHH was almost on the same level as Angle.
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Post by: westkoastanostra on January 12, 2006, 01:19:10 AM
WWE should give the belt to Angle.....he deserve's it.....when was the last time dude had held the championship belt? 2003....wtf!?
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Post by: M Dogg™ on January 12, 2006, 04:48:02 AM
Before his serious leg injury, HHH was almost on the same level as Angle.

almost... but Angle is too far above anyone at any time really. Still, Angle/HHH Wrestlemania 23, unification title match... I am DEMANDING it. E-mail WWE and DEMAND it.
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Post by: Trauma-san on January 12, 2006, 05:36:19 AM
I agree with you guys that Angle is head and shoulders above anyone else.  Of course he is, he won a gold medal for amateur competition, if you can even consider that amateur.  I mean that guy is the real fucking deal.  Not only does winning a gold medal in wrestling show that he's a great amateur wrestler, it also shows that he has the ABILITY to be great at what he does.  Here's an olympic gold medalist who has chosen to be a professional wrestler.  Professional wrestling is different than amateur wrestling, yes, but it is also similar in a lot of ways... and he's already proven that he has the ability to be the best, in the world, at what he does.  I think, ultimately, he's carried that ability over into professional wrestling and is probably the greatest competitor in the world today. 

I think what people forget about HHH is that it's not all about ring ability.  A certain amount of every wrestler's attraction to the company is their work ethic, or how they are backstage, or whatever.  Not only is HHH part of the family, but he has for years been consumed with the wrestling lifestyle, he doesn't even own a house because when he was injured he travelled with the company anyways.  There wasn't a time when HHH was sitting at home rehabbing his injuries.  He was just in the backroom doing it.  This guy is such a great employee, when he gets hurt and doesn't have the ability to wrestle, HE SHOWS UP ANYWAYS.  All he has is wrestling, it's fit that he married the boss's daughter.  There was nobody else he would have, it had to be that way.  I'm not one to say who is or isn't in love either, so I don't hold anything against him at all for marrying Steph.   
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Post by: M Dogg™ on January 12, 2006, 02:43:53 PM
As I said... ANGLE VS. HHH!!!


I am not kidding, they are the best in the business. They can run an angle of these two, have a unification match, and they can build it up as the two best of our generation. HHH is great in ring, he performs old school moves that only hardcore fans would know. Angle has the freestyle/Greeco style down, and both are bad asses who perform hurt, and give their best every night... WE DEMAND HHH VS. ANGLE!!!
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Perfection on January 12, 2006, 10:23:44 PM
Before his serious leg injury, HHH was almost on the same level as Angle.

almost... but Angle is too far above anyone at any time really. Still, Angle/HHH Wrestlemania 23, unification title match... I am DEMANDING it. E-mail WWE and DEMAND it.

There are no guarantees Angle will be around by WrestleMania 23 cause no one knows when all of the injuries will catch up with him. Most ly people are concerned about his neck still.
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Post by: Trauma-san on January 13, 2006, 09:10:03 PM
Angle's in excellent shape.  The injuries will not catch up with him unless he receives some friek accident between then.  He released a press statement about that a while ago, as a matter of fact.  He said that he was in tip-top shape, some of the best of his career, and although he sometimes has minor injuries he works through, that he would never do anything to endanger his health or his life. 

The reason people talk shit about Angle's neck is because he was intelligent enough to have it repaired with a minimal procedure that was basically non destructive.  Everyone else (with the exception of Scott Hall) has neck fusion surgery, like Benoit has had, and Austin, Lita, etc.  ...  Angle injured his neck, and Scott Hall (who had recently been fired from the WWE) told Austin about a doctor who did a newer procedure basically trimming bone spurs off of your neck vertebre.  Hall had the procedure done years earlier, and it not only cured his problem, but left his vertebre intact, which is what Kurt wanted so he could retain his full range of neck movement.  Angle checked out the surgery, found it to be competant and decided to go for it.  2 weeks later he was back wrestling.  He wrestles today with no serious neck injury, and Benoit with a fused neck is probably at greater risk than Angle since the fused portion of his neck leaves the other vertebre more succeptible to damage.  Of course, easier than finding out the truth, is just believing "yeah, he's got a bad neck!". 
Title: Re: Edge is the new WWE Champion
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 14, 2006, 12:24:44 AM
That's an amazing surgery. I was expecting Angle to be gone for the whole year. I thought this new surgery was a bunch of bullshit, but hey, he's fine.