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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Real American on January 31, 2006, 03:19:16 PM
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Muslims in Saudi Arabia and other countries are launching boycotts of Denmark because a Danish newspaper published cartoons depicting the prophet Mohhamed. These are the same Muslims who throw people into jail for practicing a religion other than Islam, and they are mad about a stupid cartoon.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002771717_webdenmark30.html
Denmark, Muslims at odds over Muhammad cartoons
By Donna Abu-Nasr
The Associated Press
BEIRUT, Lebanon – The controversy over Danish caricatures of Prophet Muhammad escalated today as gunmen seized an EU office in Gaza and Muslims appealed for a trade boycott of Danish products. Denmark called for its citizens in the Middle East to exercise vigilance.
Denmark-based Arla Foods, which has been the target of a widespread boycott in the Middle East, reported that two of its employees in Saudi Arabia were beaten by angry customers. Aid groups, meanwhile, pulled workers out of Gaza, citing the threat of hostilities.
The 12 drawings — published in a Danish paper in September and in a Norwegian paper this month — included an image of the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse. Islamic tradition bars any depiction of the prophet, even respectful ones, out of concern that such images could lead to idolatry.
Danish government officials have expressed regret over the furor but have refused to get involved, citing freedom of expression. The Jyllands-Posten newspaper has refused to apologize for publishing the drawings and has said it did not mean to insult Islam.
Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen briefed European Union colleagues about the matter today. He has repeatedly rejected calls to intervene.
But Arla Food's executive director urged the Danish government to take action.
"Freedom of expression is an internal Danish issue but this has a totally different dimension," Peder Tuborgh said. "This is about Denmark having offended millions of Muslims."
Villy Soevndal, leader of the small opposition Socialist People's Party, said Denmark "cannot be a country where the prime minister goes into hiding while Denmark loses export money, Danish citizens are being threatened and Danish flags burned."
In Gaza, masked gunmen briefly took over an office used by the EU, demanding an apology from Denmark and Norway. The gunmen said citizens of the two countries would be prevented from entering the Gaza Strip. No one was hurt.
The Danish Red Cross said it was evacuating two employees from Gaza and one from Yemen.
"There have been concrete threats against our employees. The fact that they are Danish nationals has made the difference," Danish Red Cross spokesman Anders Ladekarl said.
The Norwegian People's Aid group also said it was withdrawing its two Norwegian representatives in Gaza but that operations would be maintained by local staff.
In a statement issued Sunday evening on its Web site, the Foreign Ministry called for Danes in the Middle East to be cautious.
In Iraq, a roadside bomb targeted a joint Danish-Iraqi patrol near the southern city of Basra on today, wounding one Iraqi policeman, military officials said. The attack was the first involving Danish troops since the protests flared.
Danish forces said the roadside bomb was targeting the Iraqi police rather than the Danes, though British Maj. Peter Cripps said coalition forces were investigating if there was any link between the attack and the drawings.
Arabs and Muslims also are calling for a boycott of Danish foods, including popular cream cheese, butter and cookie brands. Arla said the boycott of its products in the Middle East was almost total.
"Sales have come to a standstill in almost all markets," said Jens Refslund, the foods production division manager.
Arla Foods has $430 million in annual sales in the Middle East and about 1,000 employees in the region.
Saudi Arabia, which has recalled its ambassador to Denmark, was warned by the EU trade commissioner that the 25-nation bloc would take action with the World Trade Organization if the kingdom supported a Danish boycott, the European Commission said today.
Libya on Sunday said it was closing its embassy in Denmark.
Emirates' Minister of Justice and Islamic Affairs Mohammed Al Dhaheri said publishing the "blasphemous" cartoons was "disgusting and irresponsible," according to comments released today by the official WAM news agency.
"This is cultural terrorism, not freedom of expression. The repercussions of such irresponsible acts will have adverse impact on international relations."
The Egyptian parliament's Economic Committee refused to discuss a $72.5 million loan from Denmark to Egypt, with newspapers quoting lawmakers as saying they do not want to cooperate with a country that has insulted the prophet.
In Pakistan, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said the government is "engaged with the Danish government" over the cartoon publication.
She said Pakistan hopes the Danish government would "try to resolve this issue because you cannot hurt the sentiments of billions of Muslims in the name of freedom of press."
Copyright © 2006 The Seattle Times Company
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the muslim kids will tell you that this is another example of manipluated American news, and then avoid talking about the actual incident. at some point they will probably pull out an article that is miraculously not slanted that supports their argument which has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
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Whereas the U.S Italy and Britain concoct this fake evil lie about Saddam possessing weapons of mass destruction. A lie which has resulted in the lives of at least 150.000 civilans and thousands of u.e. and british troops, yeah I see the comparison!
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Therein lies the way you have been manipulated
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or confuse you with cryptic phases that sound like they have a deeper meaning
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so what is the problem with getting violent over some stupid cartoon? as mentioned, at least we know why they are getting violent right? not some bullshit 'weapons of mass destruciton' lie to kill thousdands of people.
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Well, i don't think all Muslims who are mad are ones throwin ppl in jail.
Personally i think these Muslims should learn the proper rules of the religion before taking "Islamic" action.
i put Islamic in quotation because all though they claim their actions are Islamic, in reality they are wrong.
two of the most important rules in Islam are: 1) Do not force religion upon anybody; 2) Respect people for whatever religion they are
so although I'm not perfect and sumtimes do have a bias, i get along with people of different religions and we try avoid getting into religion very deeply; i also do not offend them for whatever religion they are.
i do feel that this comic was wrong for making soemthing like that. i also think both sides are being stupid. instead of these so called Muslims trying to create peace (which is what Islamic beliefs and principles are truly based on) they are trying to take religion in their own hands and are doing a good job of giving it a horrendous name. instead of threats and things of such nature, they should sit down and try having a conversation with them to try and find the issue at hand and solving that.
and im pretty sure other religions would be offended if (for example) somebody made a comic saying something bad about Jesus or Krishna (a Hindu diety for those who aren't aware). and im pretty sure there would be some ppl from those religions making the threats. however other ppl within the religion would probably try and solve it peacefully rather than violently.
just my "2 cents" on this topic.
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Today i bought a box of cheese danishes and ate them maliciously in protest
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an image of the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse....
The Jyllands-Posten newspaper has refused to apologize for publishing the drawings and has said it did not mean to insult Islam.
Yeah.. I'm sure....
Libya on Sunday said it was closing its embassy in Denmark.
LOL @ Qadhafi
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In other news... CWalker, the Polack, prefers porn portraying white dicks.
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^ lol
in other news ahaha
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(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/456/456346/terror_858.jpg)
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/456/456292/gaza1video.jpg)
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/456/456215/gaza2.jpg)
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/456/456215/gaza6.jpg)
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/454/454292/jp1.jpg)
Fuck em! :psych:
Btw, this is the reason for the protests/terror threats/flag burning/boycotts:
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/454/454292/UntitledX1.jpg)
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/454/454292/UntitledX2.jpg)
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/454/454292/UntitledX4.jpg)
It was printed by Danish newspaper Jyllandsposten, then copied by the obscure Norwegian Christian magazine "Magazinet", and then printed as part of a news story about Denmark in Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet.. now they're threatening with suicide bombers and terror acts, and they're boycotting all Danish goods.
Sensitive bitches, it's called freedom of speech and freedom of press.
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Fuck Denmark. cwalker get back to the white dicks u used to.its a choice of people to boycott.if u all don't like us don't buy our oil 8)
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* laughs quietly inside *
;)
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Fuck Denmark. cwalker get back to the white dicks u used to.its a choice of people to boycott.if u all don't like us don't buy our oil 8)
Hilariously bush just announced they plan to get the USA self sufficient on energy by 2025...
i.e. cutting money going from the USA to the whole middle, russia and china..
europe is slowly brokering deals to get russian oil over middle eastern...
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Fuck Denmark. cwalker get back to the white dicks u used to.its a choice of people to boycott.if u all don't like us don't buy our oil 8)
Hilariously bush just announced they plan to get the USA self sufficient on energy by 2025...
i.e. cutting money going from the USA to the whole middle, russia and china..
europe is slowly brokering deals to get russian oil over middle eastern...
until then boycott arab oil,stop driving ur cars bitches.
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Fuck Denmark. cwalker get back to the white dicks u used to.its a choice of people to boycott.if u all don't like us don't buy our oil 8)
Hilariously bush just announced they plan to get the USA self sufficient on energy by 2025...
i.e. cutting money going from the USA to the whole middle, russia and china..
europe is slowly brokering deals to get russian oil over middle eastern...
until then boycott arab oil,stop driving ur cars bitches.
i'm not american.
btw.. what arab car companies are there?
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^ he's talking about fuel and oil...
and man, how touchy feely are these camel jockeys ? they start burning flags and whipping out guns over a cartoon ? dont these fucks have better things to do ? fuck man, theyre acting like bitches over this, dont deny it.
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im from denmark...
everybody is talking about this shit over here...
i dont see why they made those cartoons in the first place... it has only givin denmark problems...
each day the danish milk company "Arla" looses 10 millions DKR becuase they are boycotting us...
i think there will be some terror in denmark soon... luckly i live out on the country... they would never do terror out here :)
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^ he's talking about fuel and oil...
wait a sec, i'm an idiot... i gotcha now ;) muhuhahahaha
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and man, how touchy feely are these camel jockeys ? they start burning flags and whipping out guns over a cartoon ? dont these fucks have better things to do ? fuck man, theyre acting like bitches over this, dont deny it.
Because Muslims are the most intolerant group of people in the world. They will make it illegal for you to practice your religion in their countries, but they flip out over something as stupid as a Mohhamed cartoon. They don't understand that Denmark is a free country, that can't subjugate non-Muslims there the way they do in their own countries. The funny part is that Arab governments are trying to put pressure on the Danish government....don't they understand the concept of a free press?
Seriously, Muslims need to realize that they don't control the world. I am a Christian, and plenty of cartoons and other forms of media take shots at Jesus, the pope, etc. Usually when someone does that we get mad, but we don't threaten violence or get this angry. This is ridiculous.
By the way, newspapers in Germany and France have now published the controversial cartoons. Maybe Europeans aren't as spineless as I always thought.
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and man, how touchy feely are these camel jockeys ? they start burning flags and whipping out guns over a cartoon ? dont these fucks have better things to do ? fuck man, theyre acting like bitches over this, dont deny it.
Because Muslims are the most intolerant group of people in the world. They will make it illegal for you to practice your religion in their countries, but they flip out over something as stupid as a Mohhamed cartoon. They don't understand that Denmark is a free country, that can't subjugate non-Muslims there the way they do in their own countries. The funny part is that Arab governments are trying to put pressure on the Danish government....don't they understand the concept of a free press?
Seriously, Muslims need to realize that they don't control the world. I am a Christian, and plenty of cartoons and other forms of media take shots at Jesus, the pope, etc. Usually when someone does that we get mad, but we don't threaten violence or get this angry. This is ridiculous.
By the way, newspapers in Germany and France have now published the controversial cartoons. Maybe Europeans aren't as spineless as I always thought.
I'd say going into south america and killing all the aztecs and incas and mayans is pretty intolerant too. and enslaving thousands of blacks and making them slaves and calling them niggers(which you americans still havent apoligized about) is also pretty intolerant. and what about bush saying "the only alternative to American leadership is a dramatically more dangerous and anxious world." http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060201/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticsbush_060201184817;_ylt=AlvPOOh.x90lQVrCFVGIL8ms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY- yahoo news
but answer the question about christians going into south america and killing all those innocent ppl and then answer the question about apoligizing to the blacks and then u can talk shit about other people. until then, dont judge other peoples actions. i belive u christians love the quote 'only god can judge me' so let him be the one to judge everyone. know your role, u racist.
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and man, how touchy feely are these camel jockeys ? they start burning flags and whipping out guns over a cartoon ? dont these fucks have better things to do ? fuck man, theyre acting like bitches over this, dont deny it.
Because Muslims are the most intolerant group of people in the world. They will make it illegal for you to practice your religion in their countries, but they flip out over something as stupid as a Mohhamed cartoon. They don't understand that Denmark is a free country, that can't subjugate non-Muslims there the way they do in their own countries. The funny part is that Arab governments are trying to put pressure on the Danish government....don't they understand the concept of a free press?
Seriously, Muslims need to realize that they don't control the world. I am a Christian, and plenty of cartoons and other forms of media take shots at Jesus, the pope, etc. Usually when someone does that we get mad, but we don't threaten violence or get this angry. This is ridiculous.
By the way, newspapers in Germany and France have now published the controversial cartoons. Maybe Europeans aren't as spineless as I always thought.
Because Christianity in the form it is being worshipped today is a joke. The fact that u dismiss casually attacks on jesus doesnt make u cool, its just proves how fugazzi your whole belief system is.
Seriously, u disrespected the prophet, of course its gonna touch off anger
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Because Christianity in the form it is being worshipped today is a joke. The fact that u dismiss casually attacks on jesus doesnt make u cool, its just proves how fugazzi your whole belief system is.
Seriously, u disrespected the prophet, of course its gonna touch off anger
It doesn't matter what your belief system is. Muslims don't have the right to tell other people what they can think or say. That might workin the Middle East, but not in Europe of any other part of the world.
Muslims are never going to catch up to the rest of the world unless they start embracing free speech for all people, even when it is something they don't like. That is part of living in a modern, civil society.
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no one is demanding nothing u idiot
u can go ahead and print whatever the fuck u want it doesnt mean muslims wont get upset u goof
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how come no one says shit about china hiring foreign companies to help censor its internet, like using google. i guess your pro christian governments cans say shit to china right cause they dont give a shit. so u guys only bully weaker and poorer countries, something u have been doing for the last 500 years, and worst of all, not even saying sorry for fucking up africa and south america. bunch of theives claiming they beleive in jesus and then dissing other religions. and dont worry im an atheist so no matter what u say, i wont be offended 8)
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and man, how touchy feely are these camel jockeys ? they start burning flags and whipping out guns over a cartoon ? dont these fucks have better things to do ? fuck man, theyre acting like bitches over this, dont deny it.
Because Muslims are the most intolerant group of people in the world. They will make it illegal for you to practice your religion in their countries, but they flip out over something as stupid as a Mohhamed cartoon. They don't understand that Denmark is a free country, that can't subjugate non-Muslims there the way they do in their own countries. The funny part is that Arab governments are trying to put pressure on the Danish government....don't they understand the concept of a free press?
Seriously, Muslims need to realize that they don't control the world. I am a Christian, and plenty of cartoons and other forms of media take shots at Jesus, the pope, etc. Usually when someone does that we get mad, but we don't threaten violence or get this angry. This is ridiculous.
By the way, newspapers in Germany and France have now published the controversial cartoons. Maybe Europeans aren't as spineless as I always thought.
Because Christianity in the form it is being worshipped today is a joke. The fact that u dismiss casually attacks on jesus doesnt make u cool, its just proves how fugazzi your whole belief system is.
Seriously, u disrespected the prophet, of course its gonna touch off anger
this just proves islam is a violent religion.
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and why hasn't allah's bottom bitch responded ? i bet he condones these actions, then will start up another thread on how peaceful islam is, and only extremists mis-interpret the koran and resort to violence...
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ahahaha allahs bottom bitch, i laughed at that, then again i'm high as fuck
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ahahaha allahs bottom bitch, i laughed at that, then again i'm high as fuck
i'd prop myself if i could ;D
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This is so twisted, america is falling into a police state, Europe is being controlled by a bunch of unelected crooks which in other words is a dictatorship, the rule of law is being swept away, torture is suddenly becoming more just and you instead focus on muslims reacting with venom to a cartoon mocking an idol of theirs.
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^ thats a good point... but this thread is discussing the problem at hand... there are also threads about u.s torture... shall we just talk about that all the time then ? jolly good show.
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This is so damn trivial, who cares if the muslims have overreacted, it isnt important at all!!
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Listen you morons
This is not a matter of a cartoon
Islamaphobia has been a reality in Europe for over a thousand years
That shit is crackin to the surface.
I mean even in a democracy with free speech theres such thing as anti hate, u cant just fuckin spew whatever u want
This was a cartoon that was created with maliciouis intent
It was a protest at what was perceived to be over sensitivity on the part of the Muslim towards critics of its faith
There was a fuckin contest over who could most maliciously insult Islam
then they finally have this cartoon disrespecting the most esteemed example of a Muslim ever.
And they continue to publish it, it spreads in sindication all over fuckin Europe. Denmark to Spain.
Forget apologizing, they barely recognize the harm in their actions.
Theres criticism and then theres outright hostile insults.
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i dont know why those ragheads were trippin i thought it was kinda funny. oh well, their people are naturally hot headed and short sighted. thats why the live in squalor.
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This was a cartoon that was created with maliciouis intent
It was a protest at what was perceived to be over sensitivity on the part of the Muslim towards critics of its faith
There was a fuckin contest over who could most maliciously insult Islam
WRONG, this is mis-information.
Danish newspaper Jyllands-posten invited the 40 members of the Danish caricature association to portray the muslim prophet Muhammed how they would picture him, and 12 of the members accepted the invite, made their caricature drawings which was printed in the paper, of course protected by the freedom of speech, and freedom of press.
caricature
a. A representation, especially pictorial or literary, in which the subject's distinctive features or peculiarities are deliberately exaggerated to produce a comic or grotesque effect.
Please don't spread false info again.
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Also, it's not Muslims vs. Denmark any more, it's Muslims vs. the World
Newspapers all over the world, from countries such as Denmark, Norway, Holland, Germany, France, U.K.'s own BBC, Spain, Jordan(!), Italy, Switzerland, etc. are now printing the pictures, because freedom of speech/press will always go before religious laws/regulations in these countries!
Expect more countries to follow on that list, to prove that muslim laws will never go before the countries own laws.
What are the muslims gonna do about it, send suicide bombers to all these countries ? Declare jihad ?
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This ludicrious, I'm not even going to say nothing... but... PRAISE ALLAH U FUCKASS BITCHES!
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so why was the west mad about aljazeera having videos of terrorist, i think both sides are retarded
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theres a difference between printing a comic and arboring a potential threat
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This is just more proof that Muslims are oversesitive pussies. Seriously, what a bunch of crybabies. People make fun of Christianity all the time and Christians might get angry, but they never react like these Muslims are doing. Newsflash Muslims....YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK AND SAY. No one has the right not to be offended.Muslims are subject to criticism and jokes just like every other religion. You are not superior, despite what you might think.
GROW UP AND ACT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.
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This is just more proof that Muslims are oversesitive pussies. Seriously, what a bunch of crybabies. People make fun of Christianity all the time and Christians might get angry, but they never react like these Muslims are doing. Newsflash Muslims....YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK AND SAY. No one has the right not to be offended.Muslims are subject to criticism and jokes just like every other religion. You are not superior, despite what you might think.
GROW UP AND ACT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.
despite what they say about you i agree 100% with that statement
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Also, it's not Muslims vs. Denmark any more, it's Muslims vs. the World
Newspapers all over the world, from countries such as Denmark, Norway, Holland, Germany, France, U.K.'s own BBC, Spain, Jordan(!), Italy, Switzerland, etc. are now printing the pictures, because freedom of speech/press will always go before religious laws/regulations in these countries!
Expect more countries to follow on that list, to prove that muslim laws will never go before the countries own laws.
What are the muslims gonna do about it, send suicide bombers to all these countries ? Declare jihad ?
those countries u mentioned are in europe, except for jordan(which printed the pictures in a censored version to show its people what the fuss is about), so i think u should not spread false info about having newspapers around the world printing the pictures. funny how u forgot to mention any countries in africa, south america and asia printing these pictures. so i guess that means either u dont know what you are trying to say or you think the world consists of only europe and you are ignorant. otherwise proove me wrong...what exactly are u trying to say?
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those countries u mentioned are in europe, except for jordan(which printed the pictures in a censored version to show its people what the fuss is about), so i think u should not spread false info about having newspapers around the world printing the pictures. funny how u forgot to mention any countries in africa, south america and asia printing these pictures. so i guess that means either u dont know what you are trying to say or you think the world consists of only europe and you are ignorant. otherwise proove me wrong...what exactly are u trying to say?
OK, Europe & Jordan vs. Muslims, whatever, it's only a big story in Europe yet, it always takes time to catch on in the rest of the world, I bet it's only a matter of time before they're printed all over the world, even though I know a lot of newspapers are afraid to print them, especially in muslim dominated countries.
This was in the headlines for almost a week in Denmark/Norway before the rest of Europe started to notice what was going down, and the re-printing happening all over Europe now is pretty much stating and maintaining the freedom of speech.. if somebody is provoked, so be it.
It's not like religious caricatures hasn't been all over the internet for over a decade. ::)
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Listen you morons
This is not a matter of a cartoon
Islamaphobia has been a reality in Europe for over a thousand years
That shit is crackin to the surface.
I mean even in a democracy with free speech theres such thing as anti hate, u cant just fuckin spew whatever u want
This was a cartoon that was created with maliciouis intent
It was a protest at what was perceived to be over sensitivity on the part of the Muslim towards critics of its faith
There was a fuckin contest over who could most maliciously insult Islam
then they finally have this cartoon disrespecting the most esteemed example of a Muslim ever.
And they continue to publish it, it spreads in sindication all over fuckin Europe. Denmark to Spain.
Forget apologizing, they barely recognize the harm in their actions.
Theres criticism and then theres outright hostile insults.
man south park demines jesus all the time... dont see people in rome rising up in arms...
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This is so damn trivial, who cares if the muslims have overreacted, it isnt important at all!!
ofcourse it isn't. camel jockey :P
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so why was the west mad about aljazeera having videos of terrorist, i think both sides are retarded
LOL i cant believe you make the comparison...
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al-qaida has send a letter to something in London which says there will be blood in denmark in the following days...
luckely im not from inner city so i dont think i will get hit.... but it still sucks.....
just because of a few cartoons....
theres alot of youth danish people who is gonna burn the coran tomorrow... because the muslims burned over flag.... imo thats just ridicolous... dont think that will help in any way...
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generalization that fucked up,
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generalization that fucked up,
see thats the problem... even though we have our differences, i still think the muslim people on this board are cool, whether white black asian or green from smoking too much weed... it's only history that makes up beef, but when it all boils down, we're all the same and if there was no history we would all surely get along...
thats why if forgiveness worked in it's truest form, there truly would be world peace.
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This was a cartoon that was created with maliciouis intent
It was a protest at what was perceived to be over sensitivity on the part of the Muslim towards critics of its faith
There was a fuckin contest over who could most maliciously insult Islam
WRONG, this is mis-information.
Danish newspaper Jyllands-posten invited the 40 members of the Danish caricature association to portray the muslim prophet Muhammed how they would picture him, and 12 of the members accepted the invite, made their caricature drawings which was printed in the paper, of course protected by the freedom of speech, and freedom of press.
caricature
a. A representation, especially pictorial or literary, in which the subject's distinctive features or peculiarities are deliberately exaggerated to produce a comic or grotesque effect.
Please don't spread false info again.
Yo, you dumb fuck. what does the prophet muhammad peace be upon him have to do with the practical reality of today? he aint here making policy decisions or decisions to go to war.
why disrespect the prophet of islam who has been dead for 1300 years unless its to deliberately disrespect
how can u intentionally insult the symbol of islam and then hide behind your little bullshit freedom of speech excuse. you fuckin moron.
next time im in europe im arranging a stop over in Denmark. ima get out and punch some random fuckin hotel clerk in the mouth. gz up bitches.
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if he aint got shit to do with the practical reality of today then why should he be off limits? u forget the rest of the world doesnt care about ur kooky muslim heroes
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thats great, u idiot. they dont care, they feel the need to insult and degrade.
your caricature is my meesanger of god.
your sunday morning laugh makes me angry.
what u consider nothin i consider something.
u see how the world works believe it or not people are different
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thats great, u idiot. they dont care, they feel the need to insult and degrade.
your caricature is my meesanger of god.
your sunday morning laugh makes me angry.
what u consider nothin i consider something.
u see how the world works believe it or not people are different
correct. but what seperates angry muslims from angry christians who have to endure a mockery of their beliefs in mainstream media all the time? I'll tell you, Christians dont grab a gun and go cry downtown for someone to stop making fun of them. it's called humility. some people learn to live with it, some people (looks like a lot of muslims) don't, and end up making things worse for the community.
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thats great, u idiot. they dont care, they feel the need to insult and degrade.
your caricature is my meesanger of god.
your sunday morning laugh makes me angry.
what u consider nothin i consider something.
u see how the world works believe it or not people are different
correct. but what seperates angry muslims from angry christians who have to endure a mockery of their beliefs in mainstream media all the time? I'll tell you, Christians dont grab a gun and go cry downtown for someone to stop making fun of them. it's called humility. some people learn to live with it, some people (looks like a lot of muslims) don't, and end up making things worse for the community.
ooops wrong again, u really love proving to me that u are ignorant dont u??? explain the southern baptist group when they killed them selves after they saw a comet. or what about the kkk, who are angry white christians? and in case u didnt read the news, the US sides with the muslims on the press issue, so clearly there is a conflict here now when uncle sam doesnt agree with what the media in europe has published.
u know u run your mouth about people spreding false info but it seems as if u do the same so why dont u get your facts straight and them come post?
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correct. but what seperates angry muslims from angry christians who have to endure a mockery of their beliefs in mainstream media all the time? I'll tell you, Christians dont grab a gun and go cry downtown for someone to stop making fun of them. it's called humility. some people learn to live with it, some people (looks like a lot of muslims) don't, and end up making things worse for the community.
Exactly. No one has the right to not be offended. There is always going to be someone saying and doing things that you don't like or that you find offensive. That is part of living in a modern, free society. I personally hate all these avant gard artists that do make portraits of Jesus and the Virgin Mary covered in feces in their stupid art shows. They are obviously doing that to cause a stir and get people riled up, and it works. But that doesn't mean I have the right to stop them, no one can tell another person what they can do or say.
That is something Muslims need to learn. They are so used to controlling everything concerning religion in their own countries. In the Middle East, Islam reigns supreme and can never be questioned. However, in the rest of the world things don't work that way. All religion is subject to criticism and attack. The people behind these cariactures of Mohhamed obviously set out to make a point that Muslims do not value free speech, and they have obviously been proven right. Muslims need to wake up and join the 21st century.
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correct. but what seperates angry muslims from angry christians who have to endure a mockery of their beliefs in mainstream media all the time? I'll tell you, Christians dont grab a gun and go cry downtown for someone to stop making fun of them. it's called humility. some people learn to live with it, some people (looks like a lot of muslims) don't, and end up making things worse for the community.
Exactly. No one has the right to not be offended. There is always going to be someone saying and doing things that you don't like or that you find offensive. That is part of living in a modern, free society. I personally hate all these avant gard artists that do make portraits of Jesus and the Virgin Mary covered in feces in their stupid art shows. They are obviously doing that to cause a stir and get people riled up, and it works. But that doesn't mean I have the right to stop them, no one can tell another person what they can do or say.
That is something Muslims need to learn. They are so used to controlling everything concerning religion in their own countries. In the Middle East, Islam reigns supreme and can never be questioned. However, in the rest of the world things don't work that way. All religion is subject to criticism and attack. The people behind these cariactures of Mohhamed obviously set out to make a point that Muslims do not value free speech, and they have obviously been proven right. Muslims need to wake up and join the 21st century.
apparently your government doesnt feel the same way as they condemned the europeans.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060203/pl_nm/religion_cartoons_usa_dc_1
lol sellin out for oil yea?? now look who's playing little bitch
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Yo, you dumb fuck. what does the prophet muhammad peace be upon him have to do with the practical reality of today? he aint here making policy decisions or decisions to go to war.
why disrespect the prophet of islam who has been dead for 1300 years unless its to deliberately disrespect
how can u intentionally insult the symbol of islam and then hide behind your little bullshit freedom of speech excuse. you fuckin moron.
next time im in europe im arranging a stop over in Denmark. ima get out and punch some random fuckin hotel clerk in the mouth. gz up bitches.
Don't cry crocodile tears because someone made a parody/caricature of your religion/prophet, you got caught spreading false info like a little bitch to make it look like the newspaper had a contest to see "who could most maliciously insult Islam", so I had to pull your hoe-card, because that was straight up lies.
The only way you could get off with that lie, is if you blame it on some extremist magazine/website you've read.
Anybody who lives in a country with freedom of speech may feel free to make fun of your prophet, Jesus Christ, Allah, the pope or any other character, if someone finds it insulting or provoking, so be it, live with it bitches.
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correct. but what seperates angry muslims from angry christians who have to endure a mockery of their beliefs in mainstream media all the time? I'll tell you, Christians dont grab a gun and go cry downtown for someone to stop making fun of them. it's called humility. some people learn to live with it, some people (looks like a lot of muslims) don't, and end up making things worse for the community.
Exactly. No one has the right to not be offended. There is always going to be someone saying and doing things that you don't like or that you find offensive. That is part of living in a modern, free society. I personally hate all these avant gard artists that do make portraits of Jesus and the Virgin Mary covered in feces in their stupid art shows. They are obviously doing that to cause a stir and get people riled up, and it works. But that doesn't mean I have the right to stop them, no one can tell another person what they can do or say.
That is something Muslims need to learn. They are so used to controlling everything concerning religion in their own countries. In the Middle East, Islam reigns supreme and can never be questioned. However, in the rest of the world things don't work that way. All religion is subject to criticism and attack. The people behind these cariactures of Mohhamed obviously set out to make a point that Muslims do not value free speech, and they have obviously been proven right. Muslims need to wake up and join the 21st century.
apparently your government doesnt feel the same way as they condemned the europeans.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060203/pl_nm/religion_cartoons_usa_dc_1
lol sellin out for oil yea?? now look who's playing little bitch
doesn't mean they agree with the muslim's reactions... denmark shouldn;t have published the cartoon, it was always going to stir shit up unnecessarily... especially not now, while there is so much bullshit going on.
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* laughs quietly inside *
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Laughing at you not with you.
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Yo, you dumb fuck. what does the prophet muhammad peace be upon him have to do with the practical reality of today? he aint here making policy decisions or decisions to go to war.
why disrespect the prophet of islam who has been dead for 1300 years unless its to deliberately disrespect
how can u intentionally insult the symbol of islam and then hide behind your little bullshit freedom of speech excuse. you fuckin moron.
next time im in europe im arranging a stop over in Denmark. ima get out and punch some random fuckin hotel clerk in the mouth. gz up bitches.
Don't cry crocodile tears because someone made a parody/caricature of your religion/prophet, you got caught spreading false info like a little bitch to make it look like the newspaper had a contest to see "who could most maliciously insult Islam", so I had to pull your hoe-card, because that was straight up lies.
The only way you could get off with that lie, is if you blame it on some extremist magazine/website you've read.
Anybody who lives in a country with freedom of speech may feel free to make fun of your prophet, Jesus Christ, Allah, the pope or any other character, if someone finds it insulting or provoking, so be it, live with it bitches.
Ey chump
were any of those cartoons that were published showing the prophet in a good light? no, they were negative. how can u deny there was a malicious intent behind this.
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learn to take a joke
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who cares what people say? If you truly believe, you wouldnt get offended, you would be content with the fact that they're going to whatever hell you believe in and you arent.
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^ Ey thats why this shit dont fade me
Jah fe bun dem bati man dem
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Ey chump
were any of those cartoons that were published showing the prophet in a good light? no, they were negative. how can u deny there was a malicious intent behind this.
Moron, this isn't Jeopardy.
Whether he was shown in a good light or a bad light, isn't the question in the first place.
You said they had a contest to see who could portray muslims "most maliciously", but they were free to portay him as they imagined him, they could have portayed him as moms little innocent angel if they wanted, but they didn't.
Goes to show what rep muslims (in general, not all) earned themselves, when they all ended up portraying him as a confused suicide bomber.
You live in a democracy yourself, learn to live it, this ain't China.
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Keep excusing racism buddy.
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It's not racism, you're blind to the fact that EVERY other religion have been made fun of in some way or another, every religion have been portayed in a comedic/bad light in newspapers, TV shows, magazines.. islam isn't unique in that matter in no fucking way. It's all part of having the freedom to make fun of who you want, to parody whoever/whatever you want, and say what you want in a free country, where you will not be prosecuted, arrested or lynched for your opinions or your comedy.
If you don't want to live in a free country where you have freedom of speech instead of some sorry ass ancient Taliban laws, why do you live in Canada ??
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Again you dumb sterilized fuckin idiot
i dont care if a billion religions get insulted
that doesnt excuse this
it doesnt excuse racism
freedom of speech doesnt excuse racism
u figure common sense and sensibilities, sensitivities would be worth some thing
i dont care if joe blow says fuck jesus, it doesnt change the fact these cartoons were in appropriate served no purpose but antagonizing the muslim community, and is representative of general european racism
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This effort to try and identify so-called good or moderate Muslims amongst the bad Muslims or Islamists is futile and misleading. According to my dictionary, Muslims or Moslems are believers in or adherents of Islam. It would be like the Allies trying to separate the good Nazis--the ones not directly involved with killing Jews-- from the bad Nazis--the ones who taunted, beat, confiscated property, arrested, deported, interned, tortured, and finally murdered 6 million European Jews during WW II. ...
Accessories, before and after the fact, are just as guilty as the actual perpetrators.
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it was the timing that was wrong to do this. right now there are several issues in that region such as the wars in iraq and afganistan and the whole iran issue so for a newspaper to publish things like that is pretty questionable on their part.
after the sept 11 attacks how would people in the US feel if newspapers in the middle east were to put up new ideas for rebuilding the twin towers, such as making them with a giant hole in them so planes can fly through or making them flexible so they can dodge them when a plane comes by? there are pictures like this but were they published 1-2 weeks after the incident in newspapers as a joke??
most people in that region are already frustrated so this just gave them an excuse to get all violent. yea violence is wrong, but u have to understand that the people feel the same way over there just like the people in the US felt after september 11, some people did go and attack arabs here and mosques if i'm not mistaken.
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Again you dumb sterilized fuckin idiot
i dont care if a billion religions get insulted
that doesnt excuse this
it doesnt excuse racism
freedom of speech doesnt excuse racism
u figure common sense and sensibilities, sensitivities would be worth some thing
i dont care if joe blow says fuck jesus, it doesnt change the fact these cartoons were in appropriate served no purpose but antagonizing the muslim community, and is representative of general european racism
You're a narrow-minded nobody who can't take a small joke or a parody, how the fuck is 7-8 independent caricature artists in Denmark representative of the whole Europe ?
You think anybody gives a flying holy fuck what you find inappropriate or not ?
You get your feelings hurt like a little bitch and scream racism over nothing, keep screaming.
Inappropriate deez nuts.
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it was the timing that was wrong to do this. right now there are several issues in that region such as the wars in iraq and afganistan and the whole iran issue so for a newspaper to publish things like that is pretty questionable on their part.
after the sept 11 attacks how would people in the US feel if newspapers in the middle east were to put up new ideas for rebuilding the twin towers, such as making them with a giant hole in them so planes can fly through or making them flexible so they can dodge them when a plane comes by? there are pictures like this but were they published 1-2 weeks after the incident in newspapers as a joke??
most people in that region are already frustrated so this just gave them an excuse to get all violent. yea violence is wrong, but u have to understand that the people feel the same way over there just like the people in the US felt after september 11, some people did go and attack arabs here and mosques if i'm not mistaken.
(http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/20060204.gif)
The preceding was paid for in part by Mislead Assumptions. Misrepresentation? Fuck no, Still Tha Row!
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This effort to try and identify so-called good or moderate Muslims amongst the bad Muslims or Islamists is futile and misleading. According to my dictionary, Muslims or Moslems are believers in or adherents of Islam. It would be like the Allies trying to separate the good Nazis--the ones not directly involved with killing Jews-- from the bad Nazis--the ones who taunted, beat, confiscated property, arrested, deported, interned, tortured, and finally murdered 6 million European Jews during WW II. ...
Accessories, before and after the fact, are just as guilty as the actual perpetrators.
definately the WORST comparison every made in history
Good/Bad Muslims compared to Good/Bad Nazis??? Are u serious?
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If you don't want to live in a free country where you have freedom of speech instead of some sorry ass ancient Taliban laws, why do you live in Canada ??
You have to admit he is right on this point.
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Again you dumb sterilized fuckin idiot
i dont care if a billion religions get insulted
that doesnt excuse this
it doesnt excuse racism
freedom of speech doesnt excuse racism
u figure common sense and sensibilities, sensitivities would be worth some thing
i dont care if joe blow says fuck jesus, it doesnt change the fact these cartoons were in appropriate served no purpose but antagonizing the muslim community, and is representative of general european racism
You're a narrow-minded nobody who can't take a small joke or a parody, how the fuck is 7-8 independent caricature artists in Denmark representative of the whole Europe ?
You think anybody gives a flying holy fuck what you find inappropriate or not ?
You get your feelings hurt like a little bitch and scream racism over nothing, keep screaming.
Inappropriate deez nuts.
Man whos screaming u dumb fuck? Whose feelings are gettin hurt? Im smoking a blunt and youre still from fuckin denmark
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^ I'm not from Denmark, and I'm not the one who's getting all butt hurt cuz somebody dissed some religious character.
Is it the weed that makes you calm down and come to your senses ? ;D
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Youre the fuckin idiot who has been brought up in a highly homogenized society and now u expect the world to have your fuckin views, or atleast take it with a smile on their face
at no point did u say damn they shouldnt have done this, damn why they disrespectful, damn why are european newspapers all over europe supporting this and publishin it
u wont see this shit in the us or canada
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omfg, people are stupid. making such a big thing about a stupid fucking cartoon... morons
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Youre the fuckin idiot who has been brought up in a highly homogenized society and now u expect the world to have your fuckin views, or atleast take it with a smile on their face
at no point did u say damn they shouldnt have done this, damn why they disrespectful, damn why are european newspapers all over europe supporting this and publishin it
u wont see this shit in the us or canada
Funny kid, you despise western traditions, ways of thinking, and you obviously have a big problem with the freedom of speech, crusading against it under the false cover of "racism", why don't you move to one of these muslim dominated countries if they're so much greater and have such great traditions, religion, laws and people ??
You will (most likely) not see the comedy published in U.S. or Canada because they're probably afraid.. afraid to offend (lose readers), and/or to deal with the consequences.
As long as you live in the comforts of Canada and you're preaching that shit, you ain't nothing but a tool.
Say, if I moved to a muslim dominated country who's following muslim laws/traditions, would I go in there and demand freedom of speech, demand to live by the laws of my own homeland, demand the newspapers/magazines to obey my traditions or beliefs, demand a satellite dish with porn, demand the same rights I have in my own country ??
Would I scream racism or blasphemy every time something doesn't go my way, or I disagree with something ?
You can come up with the answer yourself.
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Youre the fuckin idiot who has been brought up in a highly homogenized society and now u expect the world to have your fuckin views, or atleast take it with a smile on their face
at no point did u say damn they shouldnt have done this, damn why they disrespectful, damn why are european newspapers all over europe supporting this and publishin it
u wont see this shit in the us or canada
Funny kid, you despise western traditions, ways of thinking, and you obviously have a big problem with the freedom of speech, crusading against it under the false cover of "racism", why don't you move to one of these muslim dominated countries if they're so much greater and have such great traditions, religion, laws and people ??
You will (most likely) not see the comedy published in U.S. or Canada because they're probably afraid.. afraid to offend (lose readers), and/or to deal with the consequences.
As long as you live in the comforts of Canada and you're preaching that shit, you ain't nothing but a tool.
Say, if I moved to a muslim dominated country who's following muslim laws/traditions, would I go in there and demand freedom of speech, demand to live by the laws of my own homeland, demand the newspapers/magazines to obey my traditions or beliefs, demand a satellite dish with porn, demand the same rights I have in my own country ??
Would I scream racism or blasphemy every time something doesn't go my way, or I disagree with something ?
You can come up with the answer yourself.
You see, this post is stupid on so many fuckin levels. Son, just cuz something sound good in your head dont make it so. Just cuz u think ure a good baller , doesnt mean u can show up courtside and start harassing fuckin Garnett. Son, I wipe my ass with your posts and opinions
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This effort to try and identify so-called good or moderate Muslims amongst the bad Muslims or Islamists is futile and misleading. According to my dictionary, Muslims or Moslems are believers in or adherents of Islam. It would be like the Allies trying to separate the good Nazis--the ones not directly involved with killing Jews-- from the bad Nazis--the ones who taunted, beat, confiscated property, arrested, deported, interned, tortured, and finally murdered 6 million European Jews during WW II. ...
Accessories, before and after the fact, are just as guilty as the actual perpetrators.
definately the WORST comparison every made in history
Good/Bad Muslims compared to Good/Bad Nazis??? Are u serious?
It's Deathrow biatch! It's like when Dre said in "Still Dre" 'I already got the Chronic on lockdown / I think these sand niggas got beat down'. h cottie, why do you think the bad Nazis were banned from television? Because they were TOO GANGSTA. (for radio). This is dedicated to the muslims who've been down since day one.
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You see, this post is stupid on so many fuckin levels. Son, just cuz something sound good in your head dont make it so. Just cuz u think ure a good baller , doesnt mean u can show up courtside and start harassing fuckin Garnett. Son, I wipe my ass with your posts and opinions
Avoiding all the questions and points once again, like usual, you lost. You're a joke, and your attempted comedy sucks.
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This effort to try and identify so-called good or moderate Muslims amongst the bad Muslims or Islamists is futile and misleading. According to my dictionary, Muslims or Moslems are believers in or adherents of Islam. It would be like the Allies trying to separate the good Nazis--the ones not directly involved with killing Jews-- from the bad Nazis--the ones who taunted, beat, confiscated property, arrested, deported, interned, tortured, and finally murdered 6 million European Jews during WW II. ...
Accessories, before and after the fact, are just as guilty as the actual perpetrators.
definately the WORST comparison every made in history
Good/Bad Muslims compared to Good/Bad Nazis??? Are u serious?
It's Deathrow biatch! It's like when Dre said in "Still Dre" 'I already got the Chronic on lockdown / I think these sand niggas got beat down'. h cottie, why do you think the bad Nazis were banned from television? Because they were TOO GANGSTA. (for radio). This is dedicated to the muslims who've been down since day one.
lol at that last bit
and not every nazi was bad, many people were forced to join the party to keep their jobs as teachers, nurses etc after Hitler took power...and were in the dark about the mass murders etc.
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This is physhological bullshit, do you people not realise this hasnt just happened by accident, once again this has been engineered from the very top. What is the best of way of conning a nation into accepting "new extremist laws"? engineer a situation which will lead to it of course. Whatever your race or religion know just remember every time you call for yet more restrictions on free speech you are only helping to empower a government, a corrupt scheming evil government at that. Furthermore it works the opposite way because this will allow them to restrict legitimate mass protest ever more with the population not putting up a word of complaint because they need protection.
Dr Kambau calls for all white people to be exterminated, and yet this isnt racial hatred or incitement to genocide, because this is free speech.Yet a white man can be arrested for calling a black person names, . Why the hell are we playing into their hands! free speech is free speech. Lets stop this bullshit this is just blind siding us from the real issue which is the establishment trying to work the populations of europe into a frenzy so they become more and more supportive of another war or should I say wars. Furthermore the muslims are falling into this trap and helping to create this new frenzy of hate.
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demand a satellite dish with porn
Yes Jomothug... you demanding gay porn and the depiction of a prophet as a terrorist is the exact same thing... you hit the nail on the head with this one... dumbfuck
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demand a satellite dish with porn
Yes Jomothug... you demanding gay porn and the depiction of a prophet as a terrorist is the exact same thing... you hit the nail on the head with this one... dumbfuck
dude.. get a life.. you're back to stalking people throwing little quips in behind tech's posts like some kind of rancid parrot.. 48 hour ban..
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you been doin this shit for days.. its not just about jome..
get off techs nuts and be a man..
* banned ;) *
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Back with a new account, after 10 minutes, addicted to WCC like crack, what a autist.
LOL @ stealing Immortal Technique punchlines.. as long as it's something about homos, it draws Jamal's interest.
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you been doin this shit for days.. its not just about jome..
get off techs nuts and be a man..
* banned ;) *
How come every one that agrees with is on my nuts?
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Yah, JML is very annoying. He is like a 10 year old child that doesn't know when to stop with the same jokes over and over. He doesn't contribute anything.
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Okay this has gotten way out of hand.. Let's just end this on a good note and leave it at that.
http://muhammadcartoons.com/
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nice try ::)
just like the good/bad muslims = good/bad nazis :loco:
still you blow! :loser:
:psych:
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Yah, JML is very annoying. He is like a 10 year old child that doesn't know when to stop with the same jokes over and over. He doesn't contribute anything.
Shut up you Polish faggot... go rub your little looking at naked white guys, fucking Communist faggot
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Theres some tomfoolery goin on in this bitch. Im seein my posts deleted and Jamals. Doleres Tucker ass motherfuckers. Whats with the censor ship?
Jomo...whos the sensitive one? Ahaha
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Haven't deleted any of your posts, only deleting personal attacks/stalking.
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Like I told you a week ago son
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=9.0
^ Go back to where u came from
This is wolves territory son. Ride or get rode on.
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What's the matter son, you scared ?
You can't answer half of the questions I brought up because you ain't got no answers or real arguments, only half-assed jokes and dissing to evade difficult questions.
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Like I told you a week ago son
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=9.0
^ Go back to where u came from
This is wolves territory son. Ride or get rode on.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=4.0
;D
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^ LMAO
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What's the matter son, you scared ?
You can't answer half of the questions I brought up because you ain't got no answers or real arguments, only half-assed jokes and dissing to evade difficult questions.
No monkey, u dont get it cuz ure fresh fish round herre.
If a bunch of chinese kids are playin pick up ball and MJ stops by. Hes not gonna put on a pair of shorts and start dunking on motherfuckers. Hes gonna come, clown, laugh, steal a ball whenever he feels like it, play around with the kids for a bit make em feel good to be in the presence of a legend. Lol@ u thinking u have a point and Im scared.
lol @ "your questions"
lol @ "difficult questions"
listen man, I got no problem with u. I would personally like to hear your opinion on that St Marxmen mixtape. Just stick to the shit u know, leave this herre to the big boiz.
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Theres some tomfoolery goin on in this bitch. Im seein my posts deleted and Jamals. Doleres Tucker ass motherfuckers. Whats with the censor ship?
Jomo...whos the sensitive one? Ahaha
unlike the old days... i can see every single moderation action taken on the forum AND every deleted post. so quit it.
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^ Out of respect for your status Ill let the little boy go
Take care, Jomey
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Funny kid, you despise western traditions, ways of thinking, and you obviously have a big problem with the freedom of speech, crusading against it under the false cover of "racism", why don't you move to one of these muslim dominated countries if they're so much greater and have such great traditions, religion, laws and people ??
You will (most likely) not see the comedy published in U.S. or Canada because they're probably afraid.. afraid to offend (lose readers), and/or to deal with the consequences.
the same danish newspaper that printed th caricatures of mohammad; had earlier declined to print a caricature of jesus and the ressurection because that would have been disrespectful and created a backlash.
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1703500,00.html
The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny.
In April 2003, Danish illustrator Christoffer Zieler submitted a series of unsolicited cartoons dealing with the resurrection of Christ to Jyllands-Posten.
Zieler received an email back from the paper's Sunday editor, Jens Kaiser, which said: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them."
clearly the paper doesn't respect islam in the same manner that it does christianity. they can hide behind "freedom of speech" now, but the hypocrisy speaks otherwise.
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As always... I'm right, and Jomothug the WCC janitor is wrong.
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As always... I'm right, and Jomothug the WCC janitor is wrong.
Jamal the WCC spell checker/gay porn reviewer haven't proved anything in this thread, except calling Real American a Polish faggot, and me a chump fruitcake/dumbfuck, I could hire a retard to say the same.
No monkey, u dont get it cuz ure fresh fish round herre.
If a bunch of chinese kids are playin pick up ball and MJ stops by. Hes not gonna put on a pair of shorts and start dunking on motherfuckers. Hes gonna come, clown, laugh, steal a ball whenever he feels like it, play around with the kids for a bit make em feel good to be in the presence of a legend. Lol@ u thinking u have a point and Im scared.
lol @ "your questions"
lol @ "difficult questions"
Yeah yeah, very funny Jerry, but you still haven't proved that the newspaper had a "contest to see who could portray muslims "most maliciously", which was the point you made of the thread in the first place.. the cartoons are not illegal, some muslims felt insulted by them, life goes on.. and that's the conclusion of this thread. 8)
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^ Ey I promised Seer I would stop harassin u
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Good, that'll save you for the embarrassment when your theories/ideas are proved wrong.
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Jamal the WCC spell checker/gay porn reviewer haven't proved anything in this thread, except calling Real American a Polish faggot, and me a chump fruitcake/dumbfuck, I could hire a retard to say the same.
So you're admitting that even a retard would be able to realize that you're a fruitcake/dumbfuck? Great. I knew it was obvious... but if you're saying it's THAT obvious.. then be it. :D 8) :-*
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Yeah yeah, very funny Jerry, but you still haven't proved that the newspaper had a "contest to see who could portray muslims "most maliciously", which was the point you made of the thread in the first place.. the cartoons are not illegal, some muslims felt insulted by them, life goes on.. and that's the conclusion of this thread. 8)
http://www.asiantribune.com/show_article.php?id=3004
Date : 2006-02-10
Denmark and Jyllands-Posten: The background to a provocation
By Peter Schwarz – World Socialist Web Site
The basic lie in the controversy over the caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published by Danish and European newspapers is the claim that the conflict is between free speech and religious censorship, or between Western enlightenment and Islamic bigotry.
The taz newspaper, which has close links to the German Greens, declared the conflict was about reducing the influence of all religions, including Christianity, "to a tolerable measure." In Spiegel.online, Henryk M. Broder condemned the halfhearted apology made by the publishers of the Danish daily Jyllands-Posten, which unleashed the caricature controversy, as an "example of how democratic public opinion capitulates to a totalitarian standpoint."
An examination of the prevailing political conditions in Denmark reveals how bogus such arguments are. One would be hard pressed to find another European country where political changes over the past few years have found such a clear—and repellent—expression.
In a country renowned for its tolerance and openness, the social crisis and the betrayals carried out by the old working class organizations have opened the way for the emergence of political forces which systematically encourage xenophobia and racism. The newspaper Jyllands-Posten has played a prominent role in this process.
Last autumn Jyllands-Posten assigned 40 prominent Danish caricaturists to draw the Prophet Muhammad. Twelve responded and the results were published on September 30. The project was deliberately designed to provoke.
According to the cultural editor of the newspaper, Flemming Rose, it was aimed at "testing the limits of self-censorship in Danish public opinion" when it comes to Islam and Muslims. He added: "In a secular society, Muslims have to live with the fact of being ridiculed, scoffed at and made to look ridiculous."
When the anticipated reaction by the Muslim community failed to arise, the newspaper continued its campaign, determined to create a full-scale scandal. After a week had gone by without protest, journalists turned on Danish Islamic religious leaders who were well known for their fundamentalist views and demanded: "Why don’t you protest?" Eventually, the latter reacted and alerted their co-thinkers in the Middle East.
At this point the head of the Danish government, Andres Fogh Rasmussen, and the xenophobic Danish People’s Party, which is part of the ruling coalition, swung into action. Fogh Rasmussen demonstratively turned down appeals by concerned Arab ambassadors for talks to clarify the issue. Even after 22 former Danish ambassadors appealed to the prime minister to hold discussions with the representatives of Islamic states, Rasmussen maintained his stance, arguing that "freedom of the press" could not be a topic for diplomatic discussion.
The chairperson of the Danish People’s Party, Pia Kjaersgaard, insulted Danish Muslims who complained about the caricatures, publicly denouncing them as national traitors because they supposedly placed their religious beliefs above free speech.
From the start, the campaign had nothing to do with "free speech" and everything to do with the political agenda of the Fogh Rasmussen government, comprising of a coalition of right-wing neo-liberals and conservatives, together with the Danish People’s Party.
i'd like to see another source supporting this article, but the arguments made here are damaging.
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i`m starting to get angry about this kind of muslims
i understand that you`ve to be careful, especially in this time, when you make jokes with a religious background but this kind of reaction is not acceptable...
eurpoean countries support the muslim world financial and this this is the way we get payback?
several attacks on european institutions because of one bad cartoon in a newspaper??
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i'd like to see another source supporting this article, but the arguments made here are damaging.
There is nothing damaging in that article. Plain and simple, newspapers have the right to print anything they want regardless of what other people think. Who cares if the editor did or did not print a Jesus cartoon from a year ago? The fact is Christianity still gets criticized and maligned all the time in the West and no one really gets upset. When Islam finally got its turn to be maligned what resulted was worldwide violence.
ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO CRITICISM!!!!!
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i'd like to see another source supporting this article, but the arguments made here are damaging.
I doubt you'll find that, all the news stories I've seen on the issue contradicts this story on many vital issues, and the author of this being from "World Socialist Web Site", casts shadows over his credibility, when opposed/compared to national and international news associations/agencies all over the world.
The number of caricaturists is wrong when compared to all other medias, and the "Why don’t you protest?" part seems very odd, why is no one else reporting this ??
I call socialist BS until proven otherwise, or more credible sources arrive.
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The number of caricaturists is wrong when compared to all other medias, and the "Why don’t you protest?" part seems very odd, why is no one else reporting this ??
I call socialist BS until proven otherwise, or more credible sources arrive.
this was reported on link tv today by dr james zogby on his show viewpoint. so that is now a corroborating source. dr zogby is the president of the arab american institute. i'll try to find a transcript or another link, he was on with a u.s. ambassador today and this point was brought up.
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ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO CRITICISM!!!!!
i'm amused that you stated this. dr zogby actually made this exact opposite argument on his show today. his argument was basically:
"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".
while this is going on with the caricature of mohammad, the germans have extradited and are prosecuting an individual from canada for making anti-semitic remarks and denying the halocaust. why is mocking islam protected by free speech but anti-semitic remarks criminal?
islam is not shown the same respect.
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To my mind you would only criminalise a thought, if its getting to near the truth what do the jews have to hide that they would go to such lengths to make the actually debate of the holocaust an illegal and anything published to the contray of what they say an act of hatred. Personally I do not know enough about the holocaust to give my account of what I think so I am not getting into that one but to criminalise thought.......obviously the truth isnt the one being portrayed. As for your other comment indeed this is the hypocrisy, i made reference to the jewish owners preventing the release oi a michael jackson song because it contained anti semetic lyrics. This is the illiusion they are painting so that europeans in a general sense think the muslims are trying to rob us of our freedom of speech, even though its the government who are actively doing that for us.
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"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".
On point.
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"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".
On point.
That isn't on point, it is an incredibly dumb statement. Ridicule isn't intolerance. Intolerance is not allowing people to freely practice their religion, seek converts, etc. Pretty much anything that prevents people from freely doing what they want. Unfortunately, that sums up the situation in the Middle East with the oppression of non-Muslims. Now all of a sudden with these dumb cartoons, Muslims care about religious tolerance? Give me a break. How bigoted can you be?
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Ey whats worse? Being Polish? Or living in Ohio?
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"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".
On point.
That isn't on point, it is an incredibly dumb statement. Ridicule isn't intolerance. Intolerance is not allowing people to freely practice their religion, seek converts, etc. Pretty much anything that prevents people from freely doing what they want. Unfortunately, that sums up the situation in the Middle East with the oppression of non-Muslims. Now all of a sudden with these dumb cartoons, Muslims care about religious tolerance? Give me a break. How bigoted can you be?
i guess ure in the same hole as the muslims then cause not allowing blacks the same opportunities as whites makes your country just as intolerant. i'm studying in MA so i would know just how blacks are treated here. lol i bet you are proud to be an 'american' arent u? knowing that thousands of blacks fought for this country u call 'free' but then found out that the GI bill fucked them over since they werent allowed to move into the white neighborhoods as their economic value would decrease. have your president issue an apology to the blacks for slavery and for making them pick cotton, then come talk about intolerance and freedom.
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"the true test of an open society is not that all taboo's are fair game for ridicule, but how many taboo's that society can respect".
On point.
That isn't on point, it is an incredibly dumb statement. Ridicule isn't intolerance. Intolerance is not allowing people to freely practice their religion, seek converts, etc. Pretty much anything that prevents people from freely doing what they want. Unfortunately, that sums up the situation in the Middle East with the oppression of non-Muslims. Now all of a sudden with these dumb cartoons, Muslims care about religious tolerance? Give me a break. How bigoted can you be?
Here's the thing Polack... many Muslims, including myself, don't support the corrupt governments in the Middle East.... but you know who does?... your government.
How bigoted can one be? I think you set the bar on that one.
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Jamal the WCC spell checker/gay porn reviewer haven't proved anything in this thread, except calling Real American a Polish faggot, and me a chump fruitcake/dumbfuck, I could hire a retard to say the same.
So you're admitting that even a retard would be able to realize that you're a fruitcake/dumbfuck? Great. I knew it was obvious... but if you're saying it's THAT obvious.. then be it. :D 8) :-*
Ahahaha, Jomey the Clown played himself, put a quarter in ya ass son.....