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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: coola on March 26, 2006, 03:57:38 AM
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why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
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i'm not promoting any religion, i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food... the only reason i'm bringing this shit up is to keep a balance happening, because this board is flooded with islamic bullshit, i am happy to mingle with people from any background, but not when they are hammering bullshit into everyones heads.
all i'm saying is you dont see any born again christians promoting their shit, or buddhists trying to get everyone to convert... so why do muslims feel the need ?
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Need for attention. Most of them are fine though, like Jamal and Tech don't preach. In fact there's only one or two that do.
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MAN ISLAM IS GREAT YOU ALL NEED TO CONVERT AND SHIT
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why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
man no one cares about ur problems......
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Need for attention. Most of them are fine though, like Jamal and Tech don't preach. In fact there's only one or two that do.
lol i dont preach either ;D
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why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
man no one cares about ur problems......
He was asking a question. You cared enough to take the time to read it and post a reply.
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i'm not promoting any religion, i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food... the only reason i'm bringing this shit up is to keep a balance happening, because this board is flooded with islamic bullshit, i am happy to mingle with people from any background, but not when they are hammering bullshit into everyones heads.
all i'm saying is you dont see any born again christians promoting their shit, or buddhists trying to get everyone to convert... so why do muslims feel the need ?
i agree with you in the sense that there is a redundancy in topics, and a board like this needs a diversity in topics.
if you look at the progression of the discussion, the imbalance started with discussions of the u.s. occupation of iraq, hamas winning the palesinian elections and that conflict with israel, the danish cartoons...etc. each of those discussions have been characterized by assaults on islam; then defense..etc.
the conversation now is just a progression from that. the unfortunate aspect to this is that it isn't even a legitimate theological debate. i think it would be more interesting if people debated the theology & philosophy behind their beliefs, but instead it's degenerated into attacks on islam and also christianity.
i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food...
cooked food often destroys the nutrients (especially microwaved) so i think you could argue that islam is better.
also, that statement that you made just begs the question "why don't you believe in religion?"; which could very easily turn into a session of proselytizing. so in the same breath as expressing frustration for proselytizing, you indirectly opened the door for even more...
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i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food...
cooked food often destroys the nutrients (especially microwaved) so i think you could argue that islam is better.
also, that statement that you made just begs the question "why don't you believe in religion?"; which could very easily turn into a session of proselytizing. so in the same breath as expressing frustration for proselytizing, you indirectly opened the door for even more...
Now that's some hardcore smartass talk. Props.
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why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
man no one cares about ur problems......
speak when spoken to
He was asking a question. You cared enough to take the time to read it and post a reply.
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I agree with Cap'
the worst thing to do is to tell someone what to do and put shit in their faces
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i'm not promoting any religion, i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food... the only reason i'm bringing this shit up is to keep a balance happening, because this board is flooded with islamic bullshit, i am happy to mingle with people from any background, but not when they are hammering bullshit into everyones heads.
all i'm saying is you dont see any born again christians promoting their shit, or buddhists trying to get everyone to convert... so why do muslims feel the need ?
its obvious u dont know anything about buddhists so u shouldnt compare them to christians and muslims. buddhists dont go trying to convert others. and to dissapoint u, in boston i have people my age coming up to me starting a conversation and inviting me to their church all the time. this happend is southafrica as well. muslims and christians seem to want to convert eachother.
i agree with u on the islam preaching though. its fucking annoying, especially when ure anti religion/anti god like me. but everyone has the right to post their thoughts.
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why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
If you look, most threads in which Islam is discussed are actually started by people who aren't Muslims (including this one), and many times it is started by people who are actually against Muslims (including this one).
Allah says in the Qu'ran verse 2:256 that there is "No compulsion in religion". As Muslims, we it is wrong for us to "force" our religion on anyone. However, it is okay for us to proclaim and call others towards the religion. The Qu'ran says something to this effect in 2:159:160 that Allah condemns those who conceal the truth after it has been revealed to them, but that for those who proclaim Islam, Allah is the Redeemer and he is Most-Merciful.
Myself, I'm only expressing my thoughts and my way of life at this forum just like anyone else. The difference is that I'm a Muslim, so Islam influences the way I express myself. As should anything that someone believes strongly in. Let's be honest with ourselves, if you really believed in a higher power, wouldn't it make sense that that higher power would take priority over all other things, and be the center of your life?
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i agree with infinite..most threads that have to do with islam is created by people who aren't muslim and many times it IS started by people who are actually against islam. so it's basically you ridin our dicks. :P
there have been limited amount of topics in which muslims actually create a thread that has to do with islam. infinite bein the only one on the most recent page in the train of thought and that was only 1 thread.
chief u create most of the topics that hafta do with islam so you basically have a problem with yourself. :loco:
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and to further re-iterate infinite's statement. it is wrong for muslims to force islam upon others. the only muslim on this board that creates islamic threads/topics is infinite, and he is only talkin to the other muslims on the board (which is not wrong)...
it is your choice if you want to read it or not. nobody's forcing you to press that mouse button.
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Need for attention. Most of them are fine though, like Jamal and Tech don't preach. In fact there's only one or two that do.
yeah but jamal is just as extreme in his views as c-walker...
why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
man no one cares about ur problems......
i dont expect you to... i dont direct any of my shit towards you... just like i'm not cut when half the board insults c-walker by calling him a polak. i'm polish but i also know whats up, so i dont take offense...
MAN ISLAM IS GREAT YOU ALL NEED TO CONVERT AND SHIT
lol
i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food...
cooked food often destroys the nutrients (especially microwaved) so i think you could argue that islam is better.
also, that statement that you made just begs the question "why don't you believe in religion?"; which could very easily turn into a session of proselytizing. so in the same breath as expressing frustration for proselytizing, you indirectly opened the door for even more...
ok, go get your nutrients and salmonella ;D i'll stick to cooked food that tastes good.
and i'm too dumb to understand that second paragraph, but i'll presume youre talking about Jamal being a loser.
i'm not promoting any religion, i dont have faith in religion, but i'm sick of people on this board praising islam like its the best thing since cooked food... the only reason i'm bringing this shit up is to keep a balance happening, because this board is flooded with islamic bullshit, i am happy to mingle with people from any background, but not when they are hammering bullshit into everyones heads.
all i'm saying is you dont see any born again christians promoting their shit, or buddhists trying to get everyone to convert... so why do muslims feel the need ?
its obvious u dont know anything about buddhists so u shouldnt compare them to christians and muslims. buddhists dont go trying to convert others. and to dissapoint u, in boston i have people my age coming up to me starting a conversation and inviting me to their church all the time. this happend is southafrica as well. muslims and christians seem to want to convert eachother.
i agree with u on the islam preaching though. its fucking annoying, especially when ure anti religion/anti god like me. but everyone has the right to post their thoughts.
i think born again christians are just as annoying as infinite, but i'm talking about this board.
i only used it as an example... sheeesh... all i know is you dont see the buddhists on this board preaching how good they are and how perfect and true their religion is.
why is it the muslims on this board feel the need to push their religion onto others ?
If you look, most threads in which Islam is discussed are actually started by people who aren't Muslims (including this one), and many times it is started by people who are actually against Muslims (including this one).
Allah says in the Qu'ran verse 2:256 that there is "No compulsion in religion". As Muslims, we it is wrong for us to "force" our religion on anyone. However, it is okay for us to proclaim and call others towards the religion. The Qu'ran says something to this effect in 2:159:160 that Allah condemns those who conceal the truth after it has been revealed to them, but that for those who proclaim Islam, Allah is the Redeemer and he is Most-Merciful.
Myself, I'm only expressing my thoughts and my way of life at this forum just like anyone else. The difference is that I'm a Muslim, so Islam influences the way I express myself. As should anything that someone believes strongly in. Let's be honest with ourselves, if you really believed in a higher power, wouldn't it make sense that that higher power would take priority over all other things, and be the center of your life?
ok whatever, i liked you when i first started posting here, i didnt mind all your passages from the koran either... then it got to the point where you took it to the extreme.
i agree with infinite..most threads that have to do with islam is created by people who aren't muslim and many times it IS started by people who are actually against islam. so it's basically you ridin our dicks. :P
there have been limited amount of topics in which muslims actually create a thread that has to do with islam. infinite bein the only one on the most recent page in the train of thought and that was only 1 thread.
chief u create most of the topics that hafta do with islam so you basically have a problem with yourself. :loco:
how is it i have a rpoblem with myself, when the problem at hand is blatant and obvious... i couldnt have been more up-front with it.and to further re-iterate infinite's statement. it is wrong for muslims to force islam upon others. the only muslim on this board that creates islamic threads/topics is infinite, and he is only talkin to the other muslims on the board (which is not wrong)...
it is your choice if you want to read it or not. nobody's forcing you to press that mouse button.
thats fair, but when they start saying complete and utter bullshit, it's hard to just ignore.
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it is your choice if you want to read it or not. nobody's forcing you to press that mouse button.
well. great. that can be said for everything then. also for this thread. or racist threads. or whatever.
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yeah but jamal is just as extreme in his views as c-walker...
bullshit
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1. i'm polish
2. and i'm too dumb
stop repeating urself... we can conclude #2 from #1
u mad doggie? jamal hurt ur feelings?
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they just know that since western news exposed their savage ways they are a dying a religion, and this is the last phase where the try violently to stay alive before fading into obscurity.
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they just know that since western news exposed their savage ways they are a dying a religion, and this is the last phase where the try violently to stay alive before fading into obscurity.
come come now .....
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Let's be honest with ourselves, if you really believed in a higher power, wouldn't it make sense that that higher power would take priority over all other things, and be the center of your life?
not unless it puts food into my kids mouths, and puts a roof over our heads
which, as i recall, the one you worship doesnt
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chief, if u dont like threads that hafta do with islam jus stop makin them. u made the most outta any1 recently. i said u have a problem with urself becaus u have a problem with all the islamic threads wen u make most of the recent threads. nobody here is trying to force any1 to do anything (especially converting), if u choose to enter threads that have the word islam/muslim in the title it's nobody's fault but your own.
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The Arab at the convienience store must have over charged him 31 cents and hes venting his frustration on us
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he's prob pissed that australia is being infiltrated by muslims
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i still can't believe this kid thinks islam permits the death of children.
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he;s probably one of those surfers that got knocked out in those beach riots
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the Pakistani across the street is probably eatin out his sister downstairs while hes cryin upstairs to us on the computer
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lol fuck the pakistani's!!!!! :scarface:
they're wanna-be afghans 8)
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btw, i think he saw a muslims walk down the street with a white chick while he was jackin off
SKEET SKEET!
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i think the Arab across the street chopped him a 0.6 Bush weed dime and told him it was the bomb
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^^^^^ Damn
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he;s probably one of those surfers that got knocked out in those beach riots
thats a real stupid thing to say. i didnt agree with any of the riots, with the surfers and volunteer life guards being harrassed, to the arabs being mobbed, i didnt agree with any of it... but if you do agree with that kind of shit, and i'm sure your bum-chum jamal will agree with anything you say, well there isnt much to say about you both.
ps. i have no problem with muslims coming into Australia, and i havent noticed an increase in their presense at all, but if there is an increase, hey be my guest, this isnt my country, but obide by how the culture is structured, because everyone else does.
i get along fine with an afghan, and an iraqi, i have no problems with them what so ever, they never speak to me about islam, and i wont be saying anything to them about christianity.
if you people want to make excuses, and blame racism, well be my guest.
and the law of ji-had allows for the use of any means necessary to obtain victory, lying, stealing or killing, does it not ?
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ur gettin this thing mixed up man, ur lookin at it from the terrorist view. islam denounces all forms of terrorism and anything that goes along with it.
self-defense is the only form of violence that is permitted.
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Because it's the coolest thing nowadays dude. :P
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stop making of pakis; im half >:( lol
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stop making of pakis; im half >:( lol
-1 ;)
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islam denounces all forms of terrorism and anything that goes along with it.
self-defense is the only form of violence that is permitted.
:laugh: yeah they must all follow that golden rule
if so then why do they committ terrorist attacks in the name of Islam? when it's them who love Islam so much
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islam denounces all forms of terrorism and anything that goes along with it.
self-defense is the only form of violence that is permitted.
:laugh: yeah they must all follow that golden rule
if so then why do they committ terrorist attacks in the name of Islam? when it's them who love Islam so much
should 1 billion+ muslims be accountable for the actions of a small group?
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if so then why do they committ terrorist attacks in the name of Islam? when it's them who love Islam so much
sura 2:190 -193 (khalifah translation)
You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.
You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers.
If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.
that's what the qu'ran says.
israel, for example, is in a constant state of aggression against the palestinians. israel continues to demolish palestinian homes in building their settlements to this day. israel has stolen and occupied lands. israel is in direct violation of crimes that the qu'ran directly states as abhorrant; crimes that should be fought against.
strikes against israel are done in self-defense; are done to end oppression.
now this poses the question, who should the strikes be against? the idf? israeli elected officials? israeli settlers in occupied territories? these all seem like acceptable targets.
additionally the qu'ran states:
sura 60:8-9
GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.
GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.
in these verses only the dishonest would overlook that whenever the opportunity for peace exists, the qu'ran directs that that should be the direction; however, if peace cannot be established then action to restore justice and end oppression and aggression can be taken.
sura 42:39-42
When gross injustice befalls them, they stand up for their rights.
Although the just requital for an injustice is an equivalent retribution, those who pardon and maintain righteousness are rewarded by GOD. He does not love the unjust.
Certainly, those who stand up for their rights, when injustice befalls them, are not committing any error.
The wrong ones are those who treat the people unjustly, and resort to aggression without provocation. These have incurred a painful retribution.
Resorting to patience and forgiveness reflects a true strength of character.
there is balance, but the quran abhors aggression, oppression, corruption; and those who align themselves with aggressors, oppressors or the corrupt.
israel is the aggressor, israel is the oppressor; israel's actions are in direct violation of scriptures in the quran.
the u.s. and uk aggressed against iraq twice, they supported oppressive governments (which is also a crime); they are also in violation.
the u.s., the u.k., israel are not innocent. they are the aggressors.
if you are questioning attacks on israel, i see no wrong there.
i have questions and doubts about things like suicide bombers, i'm unsure that a suicide bomber is the same as death on a battlefield. i can see the idea behind it, i just have doubts.