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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Eihtball on April 16, 2006, 05:14:32 PM
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All Music Guide has it. If they have it, you know it's official:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE57916D24EAB7F20C986374BC4B560D20AD14FF89750254E40C0BC125F993850D96BE9DDD2B0FC6AB679AFF962AC500FD5C0EF53ECBC1B&sql=10:4d47gjyr66iw
Note that "Have A Party" and the "Outta Control" remix are both included as bonus tracks.
EDIT: Never mind, this is clearly NOT the final tracklisting. Guess I shouldn't have had faith in AMG.
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so that's only 2 new tracks with 50, eh?
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no nightmares
SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF INTERSCOPE
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no nightmares
SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF INTERSCOPE
It might have been re-titled as something else.
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if theres no nightmares then no way im checkin this out. not that i really think i would have anyway...
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no nightmares
SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF INTERSCOPE
It might have been re-titled as something else.
Not so sure. You only see Young's name listed on Outta Control Rmx. G-Unit is on at least half of the tracks.
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no nightmares
SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF INTERSCOPE
It might have been re-titled as something else.
Not so sure. You only see Young's name listed on Outta Control Rmx. G-Unit is on at least half of the tracks.
Hmmm, good point.
Why would they do that, then? Seems kinda unlikely a Dre track would fail to make the cut. But the thing is, several of the early reviews (including the XXL review) mentioned the song, so I don't see why it would be.
Maybe AMG made a mistake and I was wrong for posting this?
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no nightmares
SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF INTERSCOPE
It might have been re-titled as something else.
Not so sure. You only see Young's name listed on Outta Control Rmx. G-Unit is on at least half of the tracks.
Hmmm, good point.
Why would they do that, then? Seems kinda unlikely a Dre track would fail to make the cut. But the thing is, several of the early reviews (including the XXL review) mentioned the song, so I don't see why it would be.
Maybe AMG made a mistake and I was wrong for posting this?
Could be a mistake. I was reading Scratch yesterday and I believe Hav said that they were given 2 Dre beats - 1 was Nightmare, the other was Outta Control Remix. This raises the question of why would a beat given to Mobb Deep end up on 50's album?
This lead me to this thought (which could be completely baseless). I wonder if Dre had sold / given 2 beats to MD for use at their discretion, and 50 knew about it. Probably called MD up and said "Hey, give me that beat, i'll feature you on the song - in return sign You to a deal." 50 def didn't have that "In Da Club" Dre cut on the Massacre, and he knew he needed one. Not that this has any real significance one way or the other, but why else would a beat given to Mobb end up on 50's album?
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This lead me to this thought (which could be completely baseless). I wonder if Dre had sold / given 2 beats to MD for use at their discretion, and 50 knew about it. Probably called MD up and said "Hey, give me that beat, i'll feature you on the song - in return sign You to a deal." 50 def didn't have that "In Da Club" Dre cut on the Massacre, and he knew he needed one. Not that this has any real significance one way or the other, but why else would a beat given to Mobb end up on 50's album?
Nope. 50 and Mobb Deep both said that they made the remix to "Outta Control" before Mobb Deep had even signed to G-Unit. So I think it was more along the lines of 50 wanted to sign Mobb Deep, and he offered them the huge advance, the Porsches, and a chance to appear on a beat that he knew was hot enough to be his next big single, and that was their incentive for inking the deal. Why would Dre give them a beat, anyway, when they were still free agents with no deal and no album in sight? Besides, the original "Outta Control" on "The Massacre" was very much an "In Da Club"-style track, so your theory makes little sense. I think it's pretty clear that beat was for 50 originally, not Mobb Deep.
Please stop trying so hard to find conspiracy theories to explain how 50 is just trying to use and abuse the Mobb and how this deal ain't nothing but trouble for them. You've been doing it too much.
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BTW, I just noticed an error: AMG's site says "Outta Control" is only 4:07 in length...my copy is 4:17, and so is the version on "The Massacre" Special Edition. Seems possible that tracklisting really might have mistakes.
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This lead me to this thought (which could be completely baseless). I wonder if Dre had sold / given 2 beats to MD for use at their discretion, and 50 knew about it. Probably called MD up and said "Hey, give me that beat, i'll feature you on the song - in return sign You to a deal." 50 def didn't have that "In Da Club" Dre cut on the Massacre, and he knew he needed one. Not that this has any real significance one way or the other, but why else would a beat given to Mobb end up on 50's album?
Nope. 50 and Mobb Deep both said that they made the remix to "Outta Control" before Mobb Deep had even signed to G-Unit. So I think it was more along the lines of 50 wanted to sign Mobb Deep, and he offered them the huge advance, the Porsches, and a chance to appear on a beat that he knew was hot enough to be his next big single, and that was their incentive for inking the deal. Why would Dre give them a beat, anyway, when they were still free agents with no deal and no album in sight? Besides, the original "Outta Control" on "The Massacre" was very much an "In Da Club"-style track, so your theory makes little sense. I think it's pretty clear that beat was for 50 originally, not Mobb Deep.
Please stop trying so hard to find conspiracy theories to explain how 50 is just trying to use and abuse the Mobb and how this deal ain't nothing but trouble for them. You've been doing it too much.
Dog, I was just writing what I read in the Mag. Hav said that Dre gave MOBB DEEP 2 beats 1 was Nightmares, and the other was Outta Control Remix. He didn't say "Dre gave 50 this beat, and he invited us to get down". Maybe Hav was lyin, I don't know.
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Dog, I was just writing what I read in the Mag. Hav said that Dre gave MOBB DEEP 2 beats 1 was Nightmares, and the other was Outta Control Remix. He didn't say "Dre gave 50 this beat, and he invited us to get down". Maybe Hav was lyin, I don't know.
But either way, it still would've had to come through 50. Mobb Deep had zero connections with Dre before they met 50, so it's clear that they would've gotten the hookup through their G-Unit affiliation. In other words, your whole theory that 50 only offered them a record deal in exchange for the "Outta Control" beat makes no sense.
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Dog, I was just writing what I read in the Mag. Hav said that Dre gave MOBB DEEP 2 beats 1 was Nightmares, and the other was Outta Control Remix. He didn't say "Dre gave 50 this beat, and he invited us to get down". Maybe Hav was lyin, I don't know.
But either way, it still would've had to come through 50. Mobb Deep had zero connections with Dre before they met 50, so it's clear that they would've gotten the hookup through their G-Unit affiliation. In other words, your whole theory that 50 only offered them a record deal in exchange for the "Outta Control" beat makes no sense.
What does it matter if they knew Dre through 50 or not? Completely irrelevant. Bottom line is that OC remix wasn't on the original retail version of "The Massacre". Hav stated that Dre gave MOBB DEEP 2 beats in the latest issue of Scratch. If thats the case, how did it end up on 50's album? I don't believe that Dre intended that beat to go to 50. If that was 50's beat all along it would have been on the OG retail Massacre album. If it's on "The Massacre" original retail, believe it would have been the lead single. And if it would have been, I bet The Massacre would have pushed another million units. People like me would have bought the album with that type of lead single. Instead they came with Candy Shop and I was quickly disinterested.
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\What does it matter if they knew Dre through 50 or not? Completely irrelevant. Bottom line is that OC remix wasn't on the original retail version of "The Massacre". Hav stated that Dre gave MOBB DEEP 2 beats in the latest issue of Scratch. If thats the case, how did it end up on 50's album? I don't believe that Dre intended that beat to go to 50. If that was 50's beat all along it would have been on the OG retail Massacre album. If it's on "The Massacre" original retail, believe it would have been the lead single. And if it would have been, I bet The Massacre would have pushed another million units. People like me would have bought the album with that type of lead single. Instead they came with Candy Shop and I was quickly disinterested.
LOL, but see, this is what I'm talkin bout...the whole "If Jrome doesn't like it, that means nobody else will" rhetoric that's typical in your posts. The fact is, the "Outta Control" remix didn't do nearly as well on the charts as "Candy Shop", so obviously, a lotta people disagree with you. Anyway, I don't know if 50 asked them to let him put the song on his album or not, but all I know is, this whole idea that 50 baited them to sign a deal, ONLY because he wanted that particular Dre beat on his album (which Jrome the Great Prophet says is so hot that it would've let 50 sell a million more records) makes no fucking sense whatsoever, which is unfortunately typical of a lotta your theories regarding G-Unit.
Another flaw in your theory, I should point out, is that the decision to re-release "The Massacre" was probably planned after that song was made (once it became clear Yayo's album would flop and that 50 needed to take matters into his own hands). So I think they simply replaced the original "Outta Control" with the remix because they'd already shot a video for it and it wouldn't have made sense to shoot two videos for a song with the same name (cause remember, the whole selling point of the new version was that it would have a video for every song). Financially, it makes far more sense that they would use the song for 50's album than for a Mobb Deep album. Besides, we also know that Mobb Deep's album was barely in the planning stage then.
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^dog, did you read any of jrome's responses to you? he said HAVOC TOLD SCRATCH THAT DRE GAVE HIM THE BEAT ORIGINALLY. its not jrome on conspiracy shit, its what hav said to a magazine. who knows if its true, but you don't.
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LOL, but see, this is what I'm talkin bout...the whole "If Jrome doesn't like it, that means nobody else will" rhetoric that's typical in your posts. The fact is, the "Outta Control" remix didn't do nearly as well on the charts as "Candy Shop", so obviously, a lotta people disagree with you.
Any credible music fan with half an ear for music will tell you that OC remix was the best single released from the album. The fact that it didn't chart well was more due to the fact it was the last single released, and further was on a re-issue. I'm sure there were tons of teeny boppers that bought that album again, but I'd bet lots of people didn't want to drop $16 bucks for one dope song and a bunch of cheesy videos.
I know lots of people that disliked "Candy Shop". I honestly can't recall EVER hearing someone say that they disliked OC remix. I'm saying if thats the 1st single, I would have almost certainly bought the album thinking - Damn, if the rest of the album is like this, it will be dope. What actually happened was "What the fuck is this Candy Shop shit? If the rest of the album is like this, it will be fuckin wack. " Hence me not purchasing the CD. I bet lots of people would attest to feeling like that.
Jrome the Great Prophet
I really like that name by the way...
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maybe 50 decided to keep "Nightmares" for his album
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I'm not surprised, Mobb get a Dre beat the same way Banks, Buck and Yayo had on their albums....
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I'm not surprised, Mobb get a Dre beat the same way Banks, Buck and Yayo had on their albums....
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I'm not surprised, Mobb get a Dre beat the same way Banks, Buck and Yayo had on their albums....
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wow its funny how the success of a MOBB DEEP G UNIT album realys on whether there is a dre beat on there or not
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i´m not really interested in this album anymore and i wouldn´t have been more exited if it had 1 Dre beat on it. The Massacre had 2 Dre beats and was one of the most sub-par albums released in 05.
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^dog, did you read any of jrome's responses to you? he said HAVOC TOLD SCRATCH THAT DRE GAVE HIM THE BEAT ORIGINALLY. its not jrome on conspiracy shit, its what hav said to a magazine. who knows if its true, but you don't.
Yeah, I read that, but that's not what I'm addressing. I'm addressing his explanation for why 50 ended up with the beat, which IS basically some conspiracy bullshit. So fuck off.
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Any credible music fan with half an ear for music will tell you that OC remix was the best single released from the album. The fact that it didn't chart well was more due to the fact it was the last single released, and further was on a re-issue. I'm sure there were tons of teeny boppers that bought that album again, but I'd bet lots of people didn't want to drop $16 bucks for one dope song and a bunch of cheesy videos.
I know lots of people that disliked "Candy Shop". I honestly can't recall EVER hearing someone say that they disliked OC remix. I'm saying if thats the 1st single, I would have almost certainly bought the album thinking - Damn, if the rest of the album is like this, it will be dope. What actually happened was "What the fuck is this Candy Shop shit? If the rest of the album is like this, it will be fuckin wack. " Hence me not purchasing the CD. I bet lots of people would attest to feeling like that.
I also liked the "Outta Control" remix best of all the singles that came off "The Massacre", too (I never really felt "Disco Inferno" and "Candy Shop", and I can't stand "Just A Lil Bit" at all). But that's just my opinion...the fact is, "Candy Shop" sold 2x Platinum in single sales/digital downloads, so obviously, that means 2 million people disagree with me and you. The "Outta Control" remix never got certified Gold...your theory that it's just because a lotta people didn't want to buy the album again holds no water, because the song was available as a download separate from the album, so they could've done that. And it didn't chart as well as "Candy Shop", either (it got to #6 for like 1 week, while "Candy Shop" was at #1 for a couple weeks).
And I know lots of people that don't like "Candy Shop" either, but most people clearly do - even now, I hear students blaring it from their dorms on campus all the time, whereas I rarely hear "Outta Control". So if your only reason for saying "Outta Control" woulda been more successful is personal experience, than I can do the same. Sales don't lie, aiight? So, the conclusion is, more people liked "Candy Shop" than "Outta Control", whether you did or not.
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Who in the hell cares about a beat and who produced it? I might give this album a listen, but not to hear if the beats are any good. Just give me some dope verses.
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LOL, but see, this is what I'm talkin bout...the whole "If Jrome doesn't like it, that means nobody else will" rhetoric that's typical in your posts. The fact is, the "Outta Control" remix didn't do nearly as well on the charts as "Candy Shop", so obviously, a lotta people disagree with you.
Any credible music fan with half an ear for music will tell you that OC remix was the best single released from the album. The fact that it didn't chart well was more due to the fact it was the last single released, and further was on a re-issue. I'm sure there were tons of teeny boppers that bought that album again, but I'd bet lots of people didn't want to drop $16 bucks for one dope song and a bunch of cheesy videos.
I know lots of people that disliked "Candy Shop". I honestly can't recall EVER hearing someone say that they disliked OC remix. I'm saying if thats the 1st single, I would have almost certainly bought the album thinking - Damn, if the rest of the album is like this, it will be dope. What actually happened was "What the fuck is this Candy Shop shit? If the rest of the album is like this, it will be fuckin wack. " Hence me not purchasing the CD. I bet lots of people would attest to feeling like that.
Jrome the Great Prophet
I really like that name by the way...
the OC remix was wack. i never liked it and still dont. so now you heard it from someone.
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looks boring...no 40 glocc?
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I remember watching the Making Of The Video for the "Outta Control" Remix. 50 said that originally he had recorded vocals on that beat ( OC Remix ) and that he held it off the album for some reason. Then after The Massacre dropped, he was hearing the beat and he was like "Aw man, I was bugging. This beat is crazy..." So he got a hold of Mobb Deep and sent them the track with his verse\hook already done and they did their verses, sent it back, then Dre mixed it. So that clears up who had the beat first, despite what Mobb Deep said in the Scratch Magazine. Maybe they meant that aside from the OC Remix, Dre or 50 sent them what turned out to be "Nightmares". If that track is not on the album, it will be a huge disappointment. All this shit about Dre's experimental production on it and all that hype, it will really come off as sour if they leave it off "Blood Money".
Mobb Deep was just on MTV's Direct Effect last week talking about their album, and the host asked them about Dre's involvement and they hyped it up like "Yeah, Dre hit us with a beat, it's crazy". Olivia said she's got a Dre track on her album too. Lord knows how old that song is by now :D
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Seems odd to me that old tracks like Have A Party and Outta Control Remix will be on the album..
But what's even weirder is that they list "It's Alright", which everybody thinks is a mixtape-track, and they don't even credit Alchemist, real name A.Maman, who originally made the beat.. ???
Blige, M./W.G. Harris/Henderson, W./Jackson, C./Johnson, A./Matta, G./Muchita, K.
I know Allmusic has been putting up early tracklists before, so it might be the case again.
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they don't even credit Alchemist, real name A.Maman, who originally made the beat..
Seems a little obsessive right there, but I guess you're right. Tracklist doesn't seem 100% legit to me. Spelling mistakes and tracks missing like it's a Nas album with the best tracks becoming leftovers...
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Another error on that listing is the release date. Blood Money is due on the 2nd, not the 3rd.
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I think King and Larrabe are right.
Therefore, I've edited the subject title and the message to reflect what y'all have said. Clearly, this ain't the final tracklisting at alll.
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By this track listing 50 Cent appears on the cd six times. Yeah I was way off on my thread ::)
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50 is a bitch if he kept nightmares he dont want anyone doin good besides him fuck that i hope game continues to destroy that fool, and interscope is wack as fuck for cutting that song out the album
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when is this album dropping? i hope it dont get further delayed, that shit dont always help.......they need to get a video done for the buck/mobb joint and get it played crazy and release this joint fast,theirs no buzz for this really going at all, 50 gonna have to do another yayo and buy half their first week sales..........yayo still hasnt hit gold........or if he has and things aint looking to goo for mobb still, and that tracklistin looks real generic, still gonna check up on it though still
by the way about the outta controll remix joint......
50 said that was originally meant for massacre but it was unfinished and didnt make the final cut because he wasnt really feeling it, but then looking back at alot of the shit that didnt make the cut, probably after he got destroyed for making such a garbage album, he went back and was checking up on the jams that didnt make the final cut and when he heard this, he was buggin, like how the fuck did he no put this on the album, so he sent it to mobb, they added their part and they finished the song or whatever..........thats the story out of 50's mouth......beleive it or not is your chioce
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http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7039076&style=music&cart=331405173&BAB=M has the same tracklist. Maybe Daydreamin = Nightmares
1. Smoke It
2. Put Em In Their Place
3. Stole Something - (with Lloyd Banks)
4. Creep - (with 50 Cent)
5. Speakin So Freely
6. Backstage Pass
7. Give It To Me - (with Young Buck)
8. Click Click - (with Tony Yayo)
9. Pearly Gates - (with 50 Cent)
10. Capital P, Capital H
11. Daydreamin'
12. Infamous, The - (with 50 Cent)
13. In Love With The Moula
14. It's Alright - (with 50 Cent)
15. Have A Party - (Bonus Track, with 50 Cent)
16. Outa Control - (Bonus Track)
Notes
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BLOOD MONEY marks the seventh release by Havoc and Prodigy, a.k.a. Mobb Deep. Hailing from New York City's notorious Queens Bridge Projects, the Mobb signed to G-Unit Records for their 2006 release, a returned favor of sorts from mega-star and label honcho 50 Cent for the influence the duo surely had on him. Not just a G-Unit album in label name only, BLOOD MONEY features crew members Lloyd Banks ("You Can't Get With This"), Young Buck ("Give It To Me"), Tony Yayo ("Night Rider"), and 50 Cent himself ("Pearly Gates" and "Creep") flowing over the Mobb's darkly aggressive and deeply mesmerizing signature sound. BLOOD MONEY also represents the first instance of the duo's use of outsider producers. Not to worry, though: the list includes heavy hitters like Sha Money XL, The Alchemist, and the heaviest hitter of all, Dr. Dre, all whom approach the Deep sound with respect and a deft touch. These new associations ensure that Mobb Deep will reach a broader audience without sullying the duo's teflon reputation.
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ARTIST: Mobb Deep
TITLE: Blood Money
LABEL: G-Unit/Interscope
GENRE: Rap
BITRATE: 199kbps avg
PLAYTIME: 0h 59min total
RELEASE DATE: 2006-05-02
RIP DATE: 2006-04-19
Track List
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01. Smoke It 2:57
02. Put Em In Their Place 3:56
03. Stole Something (Feat. Lloyd 3:57
Banks)
04. Creep (Feat. 50 Cent) 4:01
05. Speakin So Freely 3:11
06. Backstage Pass 3:05
07. Give It To Me (Feat. Young 3:08
Buck)
08. Click Click (Feat. Tony Yayo) 4:25
09. Pearly Gates (Feat. 50 Cent) 4:16
10. Capital P, Capital H 4:15
11. Daydreamin' 3:07
12. The Infamous (Feat. 50 Cent) 3:53
13. In Love With The Moula 3:13
14. It's Alright (Feat. 50 Cent & 4:25
Mary J. Blige)
15. Have A Party (Feat. 50 Cent & 4:00
Nate Dogg)
16. Outta Control (Remix) (Feat. 4:07
50 Cent)
Release Notes:
Blood Money marks the 7th release by Mobb Deep. This doesn’t include solo
efforts like Prodigy’s critically acclaimed solo effort, H.N.I.C, in 2002 or
their made-for-the-streets mix-tape album. It does however signal a new
chapter in Havoc and Prodigy’s rise from New York City mainstays to
international rap delegates.
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yup it leaked with this as the tracklist:
01. Smoke It 2:57
02. Put Em In Their Place 3:56
03. Stole Something (Feat. Lloyd 3:57
Banks)
04. Creep (Feat. 50 Cent) 4:01
05. Speakin So Freely 3:11
06. Backstage Pass 3:05
07. Give It To Me (Feat. Young 3:08
Buck)
08. Click Click (Feat. Tony Yayo) 4:25
09. Pearly Gates (Feat. 50 Cent) 4:16
10. Capital P, Capital H 4:15
11. Daydreamin' 3:07
12. The Infamous (Feat. 50 Cent) 3:53
13. In Love With The Moula 3:13
14. It's Alright (Feat. 50 Cent & 4:25
Mary J. Blige)
15. Have A Party (Feat. 50 Cent & 4:00
Nate Dogg)
16. Outta Control (Remix) (Feat. 4:07
50 Cent)
so no nightmares / dre production? not expecting vintage mobb but could be some decent bump/party music.
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WHERE IS THE DRE. is it daydreamin?
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WHERE IS THE DRE. is it daydreamin?
it sounds like it could be... its got a "full" sound like a lot of dre's production, i don't know how to explain it.
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Well in the advance tracklist it was said Chad Beat produced Day Dreamin so we will see...
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its so obvious that most of the people on this forum are desperate to hear some new dre shit, drop detox already. mobb deep are looking like idiots are they hyped the track themselves, you gotta laugh really.