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New Study Says Listeners Of Rap Music More Prone To Substance Abuse
By Chris Richburg
Listeners of rap are more likely to encounter problems with alcohol, drugs and violence than listeners of other genres, according to a new study by the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation's (PIRE) Prevention Research Center.
More than 1,000 community college students, age 15-25, participated in the study, titled "Music, Substance Use and Aggression." The students were questioned on their music listening habits, alcohol use, illicit drug use and aggressive behaviors, such as getting into fights and attacking or threatening others.
The results found that rap was consistently associated with alcohol use, potential alcohol use disorder, illicit drug use and aggressive behavior.
The study, published in the May issue of the Journal of Studies on Alcohol, also found that young people who listen to reggae and techno use more alcohol and illicit drugs than listeners of other music, with the exception of rap.
Rap topped all other genres in association to alcohol and drug use and aggression.
The results, which were not affected by the respondents' gender or ethnicity, should raise eyebrows, said lead author Meng-Jinn Chen, Ph.D., a research scientist at the Center.
"People should be concerned about rap and Hip-Hop being used to market alcoholic beverages, given the alcohol, drug and aggression problems among listeners," Meng-Jinn said. "That's particularly true considering the popularity of rap and Hip-Hop among young people."
Hip-Hop artists have been featured in advertisements for malt liquor and other alcohol products, while urban radio is regularly used for alcohol advertising.
Meng-Jinn added, "While we don't fully understand the relationship between music preferences and behavioral outcomes, our study shows that young people may be influenced by frequent exposure to music lyrics that make positive references to substance abuse and violence."
Researchers emphasize that the survey's results can't determine whether listening to certain genres leads to alcohol or illicit drug use or aggressive behavior.
However, young people with tendencies to use alcohol or illicit drugs or to be aggressive may be drawn to particular music styles.
Recent studies of popular music revealed that nearly half of rap/Hip-Hop songs mentioned alcohol, compared to 10 percent or less of other popular genres.
Nearly two-thirds of rap songs mentioned illicit drugs, compared with one-tenth of songs from other genres. Rap and rock music videos depict violence twice as often as other music genres.
AmericanBrandstand.com, a web site that tracks the number of times products are mentioned in music, reported that Hennessy was the highest ranking alcohol brand in 2005, ranking sixth overall in a list of products mentioned by artists.
The brand was mentioned 44 times, nine more than Cristal, which ranked eighth.
The study was funded by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA), which sponsors the PIRE Prevention Research Center, a national nonprofit public health research institute.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5577
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Listeners of rap are more likely to encounter problems with alcohol, drugs and violence than listeners of other genres
Bull shit!!!!!
Tell me how many rock n roll artists died of suicide (becuz of liquir and drugs), overdose, depression. Compare them numbers to Rap artists! Thats BULL SHIT.
They don't tell to go out and do drugs!
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Listeners of rap are more likely to encounter problems with alcohol, drugs and violence than listeners of other genres
Bull shit!!!!!
Tell me how many rock n roll artists died of suicide (becuz of liquir and drugs), overdose, depression. Compare them numbers to Rap artists! Thats BULL SHIT.
They don't tell to go out and do drugs!
Yeah, but that's more in the past than now. This study is misleading in that sense...I think it's clear that NOW, there are probably more rap listeners getting high than rock listeners, because a lot more kids listen to rap these days than rock.
Is there a difference in drug references? Not sure, but I most def remember more cats getting into sherm after "The Chronic" came out. And also, since I live in the South, I've noticed a lotta people getting fucked up on cough syrup ever since DJ Screw and Three-6 Mafia made that shit popular. Hip-hop definitely has the ability to encourage shit like that and make it more widespread.
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Tell me how many rock n roll artists died of suicide (becuz of liquir and drugs), overdose, depression. Compare them numbers to Rap artists! Thats BULL SHIT.
Hmmmm...well, not exactly. Rock & Roll artists indeed took (and some still take) a lot of drugs back in the '70s & '80s, but they didn't really talk about it in their lyrics (well, some did of course, but definitely not as explicit and as much as rappers do).
Anyway, thanks a lot for posting this article. I might use this for my thesis on the Evolution of Hip-Hop culture 8)
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Tell me how many rock n roll artists died of suicide (becuz of liquir and drugs), overdose, depression. Compare them numbers to Rap artists! Thats BULL SHIT.
Hmmmm...well, not exactly. Rock & Roll artists indeed took (and some still take) a lot of drugs back in the '70s & '80s, but they didn't really talk about it in their lyrics (well, some did of course, but definitely not as explicit and as much as rappers do).
Anyway, thanks a lot for posting this article. I might use this for my thesis on the Evolution of Hip-Hop culture 8)
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Actions speak louder than words
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And your point is...?
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These rockers is going out and doing it.....Half of these rappers (say so themselves) don't go out and actually abuse what they are sayin in they records
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Don't generalize. There are also rock artists who claim to get drunk every evening after a concert but who in reality go to their hotel room to get a good night sleep.
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Don't generalize. There are also rock artists who claim to get drunk every evening after a concert but who in reality go to their hotel room to get a good night sleep.
Just like many rap artist.
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These rockers is going out and doing it.....Half of these rappers (say so themselves) don't go out and actually abuse what they are sayin in they records
Like Crafty said, you would need to determine exact percentages, and I don't think you have.
And many rappers DO in fact use marijuana. Getting loc'd on chronic, sherm, bud, buddah, etc. was pretty much a hallmark of the G-Funk era in the early- to mid-90s', and to this day, marijuana remains popular amongst a lotta rappers. How often do you see Snoop with a rolled blunt in his hand in real life?
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Tryed to find percentages. And I couldn't so I guess I lose. But I still don't think rap artists are the full cause of substance abuse. >:( >:(
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It didn't say it was the full cause, only that Rap fans are more prone to it.
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:rant:
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Saying entertainers are the "cause" of anything is always an incorrect statement...everyone knows there were gangs, violence, misogyny, hustling, and substance abuse long before N.W.A. or Ice-T. But the fact is, gangsta rap has done more harm than good, and those things are certainly more prevalent because of it.
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Listeners of rap are more likely to encounter problems with alcohol, drugs and violence than listeners of other genres
Bull shit!!!!!
Tell me how many rock n roll artists died of suicide (becuz of liquir and drugs), overdose, depression. Compare them numbers to Rap artists! Thats BULL SHIT.
They don't tell to go out and do drugs!
it says problems with drugs, alcohol, and violence. Half the rappers out are either drug dealers, or get killed before they turn 30. Is this really that big of a surprise?
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I don't know about anybody else but I know I get pissed off when studies and people and shit bash the hip hop community. I don't see no other genre get critizied more than Hip Hop and I don't like it.
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this is a community college poll. You ask most students there, I bet more black kids are also higher with substance abuse, and I bet more kids who come from low income are more than likely to use illegal substance, and I bet that most people that like R&B will more than likely have pre-marital sex. This ain't nothing new. It's a society thing more than it's music. People were on drugs for a long time, many cowboys did Opium, Coca Cola, or Coke, has coca plant which is also used to make cocaine, and rap artist now talk about weed. In about 20 years, someone else will be talking about another drug, they will more than likely be from the poorest class, which is represented by the poorest race. Don't be surprised
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I don't know about anybody else but I know I get pissed off when studies and people and shit bash the hip hop community. I don't see no other genre get critizied more than Hip Hop and I don't like it.
Well, whether or not we want to admit it, hip-hop right now is not making itself look very good in the eyes of outsiders. Back in the days when gangsta rap was new and the conservatives were throwing fits about N.W.A. and Ice-T's lyrics, it was pretty easy to just laugh them off as a bunch of bible-thumping do-gooders who were looking for a scapegoat for society's problems. Unfortunately, in the post 2Pac/Biggie era, even a lot of people within the hip-hop community are starting to realize that the line has been crossed between fictional violence and actual violence FAR too many times, and that many problems plaguing the black communities are in fact being made worse by gangsta rappers.
So, yeah, hip-hop gets criticized more than other genres because it's becoming impossible these days to tell the difference between rappers and thugs and vice-versa.
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This isn't surprising to anyone, is it? Hip-hop beats tend to be very repetitive and melodic and therefore would be more appealing when under the influence.
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I don't know about anybody else but I know I get pissed off when studies and people and shit bash the hip hop community. I don't see no other genre get critizied more than Hip Hop and I don't like it.
Well, whether or not we want to admit it, hip-hop right now is not making itself look very good in the eyes of outsiders. Back in the days when gangsta rap was new and the conservatives were throwing fits about N.W.A. and Ice-T's lyrics, it was pretty easy to just laugh them off as a bunch of bible-thumping do-gooders who were looking for a scapegoat for society's problems. Unfortunately, in the post 2Pac/Biggie era, even a lot of people within the hip-hop community are starting to realize that the line has been crossed between fictional violence and actual violence FAR too many times, and that many problems plaguing the black communities are in fact being made worse by gangsta rappers.
So, yeah, hip-hop gets criticized more than other genres because it's becoming impossible these days to tell the difference between rappers and thugs and vice-versa.
Hip Hop is a culture and like everythig else its gonna get judged but who gives a fuck about what 'outsiders' think. Hip Hop wasn't created to please anyone. Right?
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Hip Hop is a culture and like everythig else its gonna get judged but who gives a fuck about what 'outsiders' think. Hip Hop wasn't created to please anyone. Right?
No, but it was also created to be constructive, not destructive, as it is right now.
And who gives a fuck what outsiders think? Well, you apparently do since you're overreacting to this study. Maybe it's not important to care what they think, but we should certainly care if gangsta rap is doing more harm than good.
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Hip Hop is a culture and like everythig else its gonna get judged but who gives a fuck about what 'outsiders' think. Hip Hop wasn't created to please anyone. Right?
No, but it was also created to be constructive, not destructive, as it is right now.
And who gives a fuck what outsiders think? Well, you apparently do since you're overreacting to this study. Maybe it's not important to care what they think, but we should certainly care if gangsta rap is doing more harm than good.
Gangsta rap is what it is. It's not constructive or destructive. Gangsta rap initially was started to tell how shit was going down in the west. It wasn't started to command people to go do drugs, go join a gang, go kill someone. They was just telling stories of that lifestyle.
I'm over reacting? I ain't over reacting. People do drugs so what its their decision. When people go out and make studies on how Hip Hop is more prone for the influnece is bull shit. What the fuck is that?
BLAME!
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Gangsta rap is what it is. It's not constructive or destructive. Gangsta rap initially was started to tell how shit was going down in the west. It wasn't started to command people to go do drugs, go join a gang, go kill someone. They was just telling stories of that lifestyle.
There's a difference between "commanding" and "glorifying". Gangsta rappers may not tell kids to go out and join gangs, but they certainly glorify it. Just look at the whole C-walking shit that Snoop, Xzibit, and WC popularized five years ago...suddenly all the kids in the suburbs were imitating the C-walk and throwing up gang signs. It even reached a point that Snoop had to tell kids to stop doing it on record (the re-twist of "The Streets") because it became so common. It's extremely fucking obvious that these rappers make it look cool to be a Loc, Damu, GD, whatever. And the fact that gang membership reached its peak in L.A. during the 90s' probably has a lot to do with that as well.
I'm over reacting? I ain't over reacting. People do drugs so what its their decision. When people go out and make studies on how Hip Hop is more prone for the influnece is bull shit. What the fuck is that?
Yeah, and you're trying to act like hip-hop isn't responsible at all whatsoever. It may be wrong to say hip-hop caused this shit, but it's not at all wrong to say hip-hop is making things worse, and if that's the case, we need to acknowledge it and try to make changes. Not that I expect that'll happen...
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There's a difference between "commanding" and "glorifying". Gangsta rappers may not tell kids to go out and join gangs, but they certainly glorify it. Just look at the whole C-walking shit that Snoop, Xzibit, and WC popularized five years ago...suddenly all the kids in the suburbs were imitating the C-walk and throwing up gang signs. It even reached a point that Snoop had to tell kids to stop doing it on record (the re-twist of "The Streets") because it became so common. It's extremely fucking obvious that these rappers make it look cool to be a Loc, Damu, GD, whatever. And the fact that gang membership reached its peak in L.A. during the 90s' probably has a lot to do with that as well.
Yeah, and you're trying to act like hip-hop isn't responsible at all whatsoever. It may be wrong to say hip-hop caused this shit, but it's not at all wrong to say hip-hop is making things worse, and if that's the case, we need to acknowledge it and try to make changes. Not that I expect that'll happen...
Well other music generes glorify what they do. Alot of people glorify what they do. Kobe glorifies basketball but that ain't gonna make every young star glorify it or want to do what he's doing. There is always gonna be followers. I ain't actin like hip-hop isn't responsible at all I know it has something to do with it cuz like I just said there are followers BUT I am a hip hop fan, a fan of gangsta rap, I listen to it but I don't get high or go out killing people. And I'm sure theres way more others like me. The only reason this study was made, at least I think, is too put blame on a culture that not alot of people are fond of becuz it tells a lifestyle!
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Gangsta rap is what it is. It's not constructive or destructive. Gangsta rap initially was started to tell how shit was going down in the west. It wasn't started to command people to go do drugs, go join a gang, go kill someone. They was just telling stories of that lifestyle.
There's a difference between "commanding" and "glorifying". Gangsta rappers may not tell kids to go out and join gangs, but they certainly glorify it. Just look at the whole C-walking shit that Snoop, Xzibit, and WC popularized five years ago...suddenly all the kids in the suburbs were imitating the C-walk and throwing up gang signs. It even reached a point that Snoop had to tell kids to stop doing it on record (the re-twist of "The Streets") because it became so common. It's extremely fucking obvious that these rappers make it look cool to be a Loc, Damu, GD, whatever. And the fact that gang membership reached its peak in L.A. during the 90s' probably has a lot to do with that as well.
I'm over reacting? I ain't over reacting. People do drugs so what its their decision. When people go out and make studies on how Hip Hop is more prone for the influnece is bull shit. What the fuck is that?
Yeah, and you're trying to act like hip-hop isn't responsible at all whatsoever. It may be wrong to say hip-hop caused this shit, but it's not at all wrong to say hip-hop is making things worse, and if that's the case, we need to acknowledge it and try to make changes. Not that I expect that'll happen...
Hip hop didn't cause these problems but over the last few years, you can see some destructive effects. When gangsta rap started, it was more of a "reporting on what's happening" type of deal. No one was naming or claiming neighborhoods specifically. Now you have Snoop yelling out rolling 20's every chance he gets, Game yelling out cedars every chance he gets. That's glorifying gangbanging, there's no way around that. Posing in pictures with bandanas is definitely glorifying it.
Yeah we are all hip hop heads here and it's in our nature to get defensive about something that we love but open your eyes. You can't deny that the negativity that exists in some aspects is having an effect on society.
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Hip hop didn't cause these problems but over the last few years, you can see some destructive effects. When gangsta rap started, it was more of a "reporting on what's happening" type of deal. No one was naming or claiming neighborhoods specifically. Now you have Snoop yelling out rolling 20's every chance he gets, Game yelling out cedars every chance he gets. That's glorifying gangbanging, there's no way around that. Posing in pictures with bandanas is definitely glorifying it.
Yeah we are all hip hop heads here and it's in our nature to get defensive about something that we love but open your eyes. You can't deny that the negativity that exists in some aspects is having an effect on society.
True. I see that. I dont got wool over my eyes. I get how Hip Hop can give off the sense to do this and do that but ya'll gotta feel me with all these damn studies having a type of blame on us. It's one big stereotype. Not EVERY person is gonna smoke a joint, Not EVERY person gonna join a gang but the shit like you said with Snoop and Game can stop.
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Well other music generes glorify what they do. Alot of people glorify what they do. Kobe glorifies basketball but that ain't gonna make every young star glorify it or want to do what he's doing. There is always gonna be followers. I ain't actin like hip-hop isn't responsible at all I know it has something to do with it cuz like I just said there are followers BUT I am a hip hop fan, a fan of gangsta rap, I listen to it but I don't get high or go out killing people. And I'm sure theres way more others like me. The only reason this study was made, at least I think, is too put blame on a culture that not alot of people are fond of becuz it tells a lifestyle!
Well, gangs are a serious problem in our communities right now. There may be a lot of movies that glorify violence, but generally speaking, you don't have to worry about them influencing kids to imitate them because they're much closer to fiction than the truth. Like, you wouldn't expect most kids to watch "The Matrix" and then try to fight off a whole SWAT team by themselves because that's science-fiction - it's easier to recognize that's not reality. But anyone who lives in the right area can throw up a set and start gangbanging (or get put on the turf if they're REALLY that into it), and fuck up their whole life doing that. And with gangsta rappers glorifying it, it seems more within grasp of reality, something they can do.
And you can say YOU may not become a loc or get loc'd out because you were influenced by a rapper to do that, but you don't speak for everyone. There certainly are some cats who are taking the shit too seriously, and who are ruining their lives by getting into the gangsta lifestyle. There's no doubt about it - gangsta rap is doing more harm than good right now.
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And you can say YOU may not become a loc or get loc'd out because you were influenced by a rapper to do that, but you don't speak for everyone. There certainly are some cats who are taking the shit too seriously, and who are ruining their lives by getting into the gangsta lifestyle. There's no doubt about it - gangsta rap is doing more harm than good right now.
Ok right. But becuz rap is doing harm to us at the moment doesn't mean we should get shifted with blame and studies that are tryin to degrade us.
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These rockers is going out and doing it.....Half of these rappers (say so themselves) don't go out and actually abuse what they are sayin in they records
How often do you see Snoop with a rolled blunt in his hand in real life?
Do you know Snoop? I don't think so, so you can't ask a question like that and what do you mean in "real life", Snoop smokes everyday allday (that's what i've heard alot times)...
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Gangsta rap is what it is. It's not constructive or destructive. Gangsta rap initially was started to tell how shit was going down in the west. It wasn't started to command people to go do drugs, go join a gang, go kill someone. They was just telling stories of that lifestyle.
It even reached a point that Snoop had to tell kids to stop doing it on record (the re-twist of "The Streets") because it became so common.
Yeah and by the way that was a diss to Xzibit too...
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I don't know about anybody else but I know I get pissed off when studies and people and shit bash the hip hop community. I don't see no other genre get critizied more than Hip Hop and I don't like it.
Maybe you don't like the truth, then. The truth is not always appealing. Think of it this way. Out of all the genre's of music, one, whether it's rock or country or rap or blues or whatever... has the most negative connotations with it. Maybe it just happens to be rap and that's why people criticise it so much. Maybe it's more worth of criticism.
If you weigh 400 pounds, and everybody in your family only weighs 180, and you're the one everybody calls fat... that's not unfair, that's the truth.
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this is a community college poll. You ask most students there, I bet more black kids are also higher with substance abuse, and I bet more kids who come from low income are more than likely to use illegal substance, and I bet that most people that like R&B will more than likely have pre-marital sex. This ain't nothing new. It's a society thing more than it's music. People were on drugs for a long time, many cowboys did Opium, Coca Cola, or Coke, has coca plant which is also used to make cocaine, and rap artist now talk about weed. In about 20 years, someone else will be talking about another drug, they will more than likely be from the poorest class, which is represented by the poorest race. Don't be surprised
That's all cute, but it's common knowledge that much more whites listen to rap than blacks do.
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This isn't surprising to anyone, is it? Hip-hop beats tend to be very repetitive and melodic and therefore would be more appealing when under the influence.
when high, rock> reggae> rap ... well for me...
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fuck whoever wrote this report.. i'mma buck em.. :D
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One day after listening mad crazy again and again for "Just tah let u know" when i went out i tried to get in the feeling "It's the E ! that's what they scream when they see me" My name starts with "I"=EE and I was gangsta ! LOL
I think it's kinda right...
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Do you know Snoop? I don't think so, so you can't ask a question like that and what do you mean in "real life", Snoop smokes everyday allday (that's what i've heard alot times)...
I don't know what the fuck you're asking, but it sounds you changed tones twice in this.