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Title: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 01:42:01 PM
If Detox comes out it will be a classic album. There is no disputing this because Dre wouldn't release it otherwises. So Dre will have Chronic, 2001, and Detox. 3 classic albums. What rapper can say they have 3 classic albums? The only other person I could think possibly has this is 2Pac. Now lets just hope Detox does come out. ;)

So the question I ask you is... Is there any artists who have 3 undisputed albums recognized as classics?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: regimemob510 on April 17, 2006, 01:50:25 PM
i'm gonna hafta say, E-40, Jay-Z, Raekwon and ghostface (including their wu tang albums), but obviously none of them are up to par with dre....
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: BG Dresta on April 17, 2006, 01:53:46 PM


So the question I ask you is... Is there any artists who have 3 undisputed classic albums?

DJ Quik, Spice 1 & Ice Cube
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 01:54:47 PM
i'm gonna hafta say, E-40, Jay-Z, Raekwon and ghostface (including their wu tang albums), but obviously none of them are up to par with dre....
Can you list each of their classic albums, because I don't think any of them have 3. Are you sure all of them are classic music albums and not just excellent rap albums?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: suckaa free on April 17, 2006, 01:58:48 PM
Too $hort
-Short Dogg's in the House
-Shorty the Pimp
-Get in Where You Fit in.

my fault for postin so many times, computer/internet is fucken trippin'
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: rik on April 17, 2006, 02:01:20 PM
^ Why u post the same thing three times?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 17, 2006, 02:02:07 PM
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Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 02:10:15 PM
Is there any artists who have 3 undisputed classic albums?
Come on people. Those are all great rap albums, but hardly any of those are classic albums.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Dubz on April 17, 2006, 02:18:06 PM
nas: illmatic, stillmatic, god's son. i thought those were his best, but maybe only illmatic is bonafide classic.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 17, 2006, 02:23:49 PM
Outkast
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
ATLiens
Aquemini



Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: We Fly High on April 17, 2006, 03:08:10 PM
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the only 3 undisputed classics from one group. end of discussion.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: SlickPants on April 17, 2006, 03:22:48 PM
nas, maybe rakim
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 03:23:47 PM
nas
What are they?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Diabolical on April 17, 2006, 03:25:16 PM
Cube has 4

Straight Outta Compton
Amerikkkas Most Wanted
Death Certificate
Bow Down
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 03:27:27 PM
Cube has 4

Straight Outta Compton
Amerikkkas Most Wanted
Death Certificate
Bow Down

Solo only. Or else Dre would have 5 (including detox and niggazforlife). And I don't think Bow Down is recognized as a classic. 2 for Ice Cube.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 17, 2006, 03:30:52 PM
When you mean classics do you mean record sale classics, personal opinion classics or hip hop in general opinion classics?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 03:33:38 PM
When you mean classics do you mean record sale classics, personal opinion classics or hip hop in general opinion classics?
Mainly "hip hop in general opinion classics" but also "personal opinion."
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on April 17, 2006, 03:40:19 PM
its hard to say every1 has an opinion on wat album is a classic,

for record sales surely eminem has more "classics"
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 03:52:46 PM
its hard to say every1 has an opinion on wat album is a classic,
I know. What I'm saying is try to think what most people would recognize as a classic and what you think are the best albums of all time, find an album that somewhat fits both those critrea and poof! You have your answer. As far as sales, the only reason those matter is because in order for it to be a classic many hip hop heads have to have heard it but even that is unsatisfactory sometimes. Just look at Illmatic. I'm sure it went platinum by now, but when it came out it was a commerical faliure. Today it is recognized as one of the classic albums of all time. I guess in the end a classic album IMO is one that has excellent quality (of course) and really effected the rap game in some way (made rap history).
Maybe I should of started a thread entitled "What makes a classic album" then posted this thread. ???

So far the only possible one I see that are posted are Outkast. Ice Cube had 2, Scareface had one and Jay-Z had 2 IMHO. I'm still undecided on a tribe called quest because I am not as fimiliar with there albums as others, so I can't make an opinion worth postiong.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 17, 2006, 03:55:49 PM
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the only 3 undisputed classics from one group. end of discussion.

and

Outkast
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
ATLiens
Aquemini


and what about Pac? (technically, could be FOUR albums)

MATW
AEOM
DK7DT
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 04:06:14 PM
and what about Pac? (technically, could be FOUR albums)

MATW
AEOM
DK7DT
2Pac has 3. What would you say is the fourth?
Me Against the World
All Eyez on Me    February 13, 1996
Makaveli: The Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 17, 2006, 04:09:09 PM
2pacalypse Now
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: gav09 on April 17, 2006, 04:58:02 PM
Jay-Z

Reasonable Doubt
Blueprint
Black Album

I say Jay-Z cos I like these 3 n they all got gr8 tracks, but true classics, im not 2 sure.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 17, 2006, 05:10:42 PM
and what about Pac? (technically, could be FOUR albums)

MATW
AEOM
DK7DT
2Pac has 3. What would you say is the fourth?
Me Against the World
All Eyez on Me    February 13, 1996
Makaveli: The Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory

acknowledging that AEOM was a double.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Okka on April 17, 2006, 05:17:53 PM
But the 2 dopest albums ever released are "The Chronic" and "2001", y'all gotta remember that  8)
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Jip on April 17, 2006, 05:29:37 PM
Outkast
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
ATLiens
Aquemini




Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: WestCoasta on April 17, 2006, 05:31:04 PM
man, I think some gotta get out of this mindstate where only Dr. Dre can have a classic record and no one else is aloud


look at it this way - Dre doesn't have 3 classic albums!
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 05:41:26 PM
man, I think some gotta get out of this mindstate where only Dr. Dre can have a classic record and no one else is aloud
Who said only Dr. Dre can have a classic record? Haven't you been reading? In this thread alone people stated that Jay-Z, Nas, 2Pac, Outkast, Ice Cube, E-40, Raekwon, Ghostface, DJ Quik, Spice 1, Too $hort and Rakim have had least one classic album (which is all true, alough I'd have to disagree on about half of them having more then one).

look at it this way - Dre doesn't have 3 classic albums!
Not yet (maybe not ever :().
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: suckaa free on April 17, 2006, 06:36:17 PM
Too $hort
-Short Dogg's in the House
-Shorty the Pimp
-Get in Where You Fit in.


nobody said anything about too $hort, are his 3 albums classics?  if not, why?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Machiavelli on April 17, 2006, 07:25:21 PM
2pac - 7 Day Theory, Me Against the World, All Eyez on Me
Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Maruders, Low End Theory, Peoples...
Outkast - Aquemini, ATLiens,Southernplayalysticaddilacmuzik
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 17, 2006, 09:56:51 PM
2pac - 7 Day Theory, Me Against the World, All Eyez on Me

yup no doubt
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Canuck on April 17, 2006, 09:57:21 PM
Detox is make-believe just like elves, gremlins and Eskimos
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 10:04:05 PM
Detox is make-believe just like elves, gremlins and Eskimos
LOL at you quoting Homer Simpson.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: J Bananas on April 17, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
shit even xzibit got 3 classic albums, you know...
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on April 17, 2006, 10:07:05 PM
I still don't see what the fuss is over 2001 :-[ I prefer Bow Down over it 8)
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 10:09:21 PM
shit even xzibit got 3 classic albums, you know...
One by my count. ;)
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: J Bananas on April 17, 2006, 10:12:09 PM
ATSOL
40 Days 40 Nights
Restless
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: WestCoasta on April 17, 2006, 10:16:20 PM
I think "Restless" is a classic there isn't really any fillers on that one

but to be honest I haven't listened as carefully to his others so I can't call it

Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: WestCoasta on April 17, 2006, 10:18:58 PM
shit, Quik got 3 classics for sure too...


Rhythm-al-ism

Safe + Sound

Balance & Options


can't argue it...
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 17, 2006, 10:25:27 PM
shit, Quik got 3 classics for sure too...


Rhythm-al-ism

Safe + Sound

Balance & Options


can't argue it...
Actualy you can, but I'm not going to. Those are 3 solid albums (plus Quik is the Name). Only time will tell if these make rap history. But Quik definatly is a legendary rapper/producer in his own right.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Mygla on April 17, 2006, 11:14:28 PM
Outkast and 2pac...

2pacalypse Now

lol
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: We Fly High on April 17, 2006, 11:17:10 PM
maybe Cube

Amerikkas most wanted
Death Certificate
and Predator..

the only one that is kinda not as classic is predator. but you cant deny amerikkas or death certificate.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on April 18, 2006, 02:32:44 AM
shit, Quik got 3 classics for sure too...


Rhythm-al-ism

Safe + Sound

Balance & Options


can't argue it...
Actualy you can, but I'm not going to. Those are 3 solid albums (plus Quik is the Name). Only time will tell if these make rap history. But Quik definatly is a legendary rapper/producer in his own right.

Quik's only problem is that he doesn't get the same exposure as Dre, because his albums are just as good.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 18, 2006, 08:08:44 AM
Busta ?
When Disaster Strikes
E.L.E.
Genesis

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ

Jay -Z ?
Reasonable Doubt
Blueprint
Black Album

NAs ?
Illmatic
It Was Written
Stillmatic

I think Outkast had the best 3 classic albums anyways!!  ;D
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Paul on April 18, 2006, 09:12:06 AM
I still don't see what the fuss is over 2001 :-[ I prefer Bow Down over it 8)

i agree with this guy

2pac has three classics
Quik depending on who u askmay possibly hav 4
i would say rhythm al ism is a def same with safe and sound and i would say quik is the name is as well. some people would say balance and options is considered aswell
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: T-Dogg on April 18, 2006, 09:15:51 AM
Busta ?
When Disaster Strikes
E.L.E.
Genesis

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ

Jay -Z ?
Reasonable Doubt
Blueprint
Black Album

NAs ?
Illmatic
It Was Written
Stillmatic

I think Outkast had the best 3 classic albums anyways!!  ;D

Outta those four guys, I'd just pick Nas (with those exact albums). Jay-Z is so-so, some may feel the listed 3 are classic, but I wouldn't.

Busta? Darkman? Hell no, not 3 albums, although very tight shit throughout their careers.

I'm thinking Outkast (obviously, mentioned before plenty of times.)

Ice Cube with AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, Death Certificate and Lethal Injection.

DJ Quik has four classics: Quik Is the Name, Safe + Sound, Rythymalism and Balance & Options. Plus, in my humble opinion, Trauma will be considered as a classic in a few years. Say what you say. I don't think the great audience hasn't yet grasped the full greatness of that album. Just my opinion.

Then Pac - 7 Day Theory, All Eyez On Me and Me Against the World.

But when it comes to me, there are many many CD's in my shelf that I hold near and dear and are classic to me, but wouldn't be considered classic by the collective that is "hip-hop heads".
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: CanadActive on April 18, 2006, 09:20:37 AM
Outkast

ATLiens
Aquemini
Stankonia

IMO

Stank you...
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2006, 10:08:29 AM
I still don't see what the fuss is over 2001 :-[
:sign_banhim:
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: No Compute on April 18, 2006, 10:23:32 AM
I don't think anybody that has been mentioned has 3 classics.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on April 18, 2006, 10:26:29 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2006, 10:28:03 AM
I don't think anybody that has been mentioned has 3 classics.
Nas and 2Pac don't have 3 classic albums?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 18, 2006, 10:28:32 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums

I liked them  :-\
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2006, 10:32:12 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums

I liked them  :-\
But do you honestly beilive they were classic albums? In 10 years the only album of DMX I think people will be talking about is It's Dark and Hell Is Hot.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 18, 2006, 10:34:21 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums

I liked them  :-\
But do you honestly beilive they were classic albums? In 10 years the only album of DMX I think people will be talking about is It's Dark and Hell Is Hot.

LMAO. I guess not really but I thought they was hot. Personal opinion.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2006, 10:42:44 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums

I liked them  :-\
But do you honestly beilive they were classic albums? In 10 years the only album of DMX I think people will be talking about is It's Dark and Hell Is Hot.

LMAO. I guess not really but I thought they was hot. Personal opinion.
That's the problem. Too many people are putting their personal opinion in front of the question. If I went by opinon, then I'd agree with a bunch of the albums people have been naming. Quik might of had 4, if it was based soley on how good people think an album is. But you have to ask yourself what effect did it have on hip hop and will people be playing these albums 10 years from now. It's Dark and Hell is Hot fits that criteria. Great Depression and Grand Champ don't IMO.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 18, 2006, 10:45:13 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums

I liked them  :-\
But do you honestly beilive they were classic albums? In 10 years the only album of DMX I think people will be talking about is It's Dark and Hell Is Hot.

LMAO. I guess not really but I thought they was hot. Personal opinion.
That's the problem. Too many people are putting their personal opinion in front of the question. If I went by opinon, then I'd agree with a bunch of the albums people have been naming. Quik might of had 4, if it was based soley on how good people think an album is. But you have to ask yourself what effect did it have on hip hop and will people be playing these albums 10 years from now. It's Dark and Hell is Hot fits that criteria. Great Depression and Grand Champ don't IMO.

Outkast is who I think has 3 classic albums and that's not my opinion.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2006, 10:49:51 AM

D.M.X. ?
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
Great Depression
Grand Champ


great depression and grand champ are awful albums

I liked them  :-\
But do you honestly beilive they were classic albums? In 10 years the only album of DMX I think people will be talking about is It's Dark and Hell Is Hot.

LMAO. I guess not really but I thought they was hot. Personal opinion.
That's the problem. Too many people are putting their personal opinion in front of the question. If I went by opinon, then I'd agree with a bunch of the albums people have been naming. Quik might of had 4, if it was based soley on how good people think an album is. But you have to ask yourself what effect did it have on hip hop and will people be playing these albums 10 years from now. It's Dark and Hell is Hot fits that criteria. Great Depression and Grand Champ don't IMO.

Outkast is who I think has 3 classic albums and that's not my opinion.
Yeah Outkast's albums definatly look like they are/will be classics.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Kaligula on April 18, 2006, 11:03:50 AM
I will definitely co-sign Outkast and Tribe Called Quest. Tribe doesn't really get the props they deserve because they dont have the visibility alot of other artists on this list do, but the three albums already mentioned are some of the best in hip-hop EVER. Don't sleep.

I'm on the line about 2pac. He's a personal favorites of course, but I kinda feel like only 2 of the 3 albums mentioned are REALLY classics.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2006, 11:13:15 AM
I'm on the line about 2pac. He's a personal favorites of course, but I kinda feel like only 2 of the 3 albums mentioned are REALLY classics.
The fact that AEOM is already considered one of the best albums in history and people are still argueing over which of his 3 albums (AEOM, MTDK7DT, MATW) are the best, proves that all 3 are classics IMO.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Mygla on April 18, 2006, 12:45:07 PM
Outkast is who I think has 3 classic albums and that's not my opinion.

so you think they got 3 classic albums? but it's not your opinion?
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 18, 2006, 06:26:41 PM
Outkast is who I think has 3 classic albums and that's not my opinion.

so you think they got 3 classic albums? but it's not your opinion?

Do you always go out of your way to KEEP putting me on blast FAGGOT  ;)
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 18, 2006, 06:41:31 PM
Quik:
Quik Is the Name - yes
Safe + Sound - no
Rythymalism - yes
Balance & Options - NO

Impact has as much to the title classic than anything else.

2Pac:
Me Against the World - yes
All Eyez On Me - yes
Makaveli - classic by every defination

Outkast:
Southernplayalistic - yes
ATLiens - no
Aquemini - yes
Stankonia - NO
Speakerboxxx, The Love Below - YES!!!

Impact is too important, and the influence that the album had on the game.

Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Mygla on April 24, 2006, 03:35:14 AM
Outkast is who I think has 3 classic albums and that's not my opinion.

so you think they got 3 classic albums? but it's not your opinion?

Do you always go out of your way to KEEP putting me on blast FAGGOT  ;)

no, it's just that you're goddamn posts are everywhere... and you say too many stupid things...
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Sriram619 on April 24, 2006, 09:55:07 AM
man is that 7 year thing even gonna go down i bet detox aint even going to come out this year
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: QuietTruth on April 24, 2006, 11:49:01 AM
Outkast is who I think has 3 classic albums and that's not my opinion.

so you think they got 3 classic albums? but it's not your opinion?

Do you always go out of your way to KEEP putting me on blast FAGGOT  ;)

no, it's just that you're goddamn posts are everywhere... and you say too many stupid things...

HAHAHAHAHA! I wouldn't be talking if I was you.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 24, 2006, 11:52:16 AM
Outkast
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
ATLiens
Aquemini





DING! DING! DING! We have a winner.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: 'EclipZe on April 24, 2006, 12:09:03 PM
Actually i love under tha influance from quik man, that shit got no fillers , it can't fuck with balance and options though
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on April 24, 2006, 11:18:44 PM
I gotta go with Cube and Pac. Lil Wayne will have in the future coz he got 2 already no denying. Big Snoop? THats definetly personal opinion but i think Doggfather was a classic it was just slept on as it was his album after doggystyle. I also liked the last meal but classic? hmmm prolly not. NAs and Jay Z definetly DO NOT have 3 classics ad give Nas 2 and 1 to Jay.....

How about Killa Cam? Confessions of Fire, S.D.E, and Purple Haze are all very solid albums. Hood classics maybe?.....

Big Pun? Capital Punishment, Endangered Species and Yeeeah Baby were all classic IMO.
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: westkoastanostra on April 24, 2006, 11:57:14 PM
spice 1:

- self-titled
- 187 he wrote
- amerikkk's nightmare

i'd even go as far as saying   1990-sick is a classic but theres like 2 horrible tracks on there so no....

too short

- life is.....
- get in where u fit in
- cocktails

Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2006, 11:58:53 PM
I regret ever starting this topic. ::) :-[ :-X :-\ :grumpy:
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Peacock on April 25, 2006, 11:13:35 AM
If Detox comes out
i dont think that this will happen
Title: Re: If Detox comes out...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 25, 2006, 11:14:48 AM
If Detox comes out
i dont think that this will happen
Like I said:

Now lets just hope Detox does come out. ;)