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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 26, 2006, 06:50:31 PM
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i say yes. we should legalize but with a tax, we can then put that money into public services. I think it would be a great idea to have a smoke shop, where you can go buy bud, smoke it there, but you can not leave while being high that way you will not be able to operate a vehicle and pose a danger to the community.
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No way, Jose. This isn't Holland. Drug use should be discouraged because it is so harmful. I like things the way they are.
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To a certain extend it should be legalized.
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i say yes. we should legalize but with a tax, we can then put that money into public services. I think it would be a great idea to have a smoke shop, where you can go buy bud, smoke it there, but you can not leave while being high that way you will not be able to operate a vehicle and pose a danger to the community.
Other then weed and other "non harmful" drugs I don't think drugs should be leaglized.
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legalize EVERYTHING, survival of the fittest
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i say yes. we should legalize but with a tax, we can then put that money into public services. I think it would be a great idea to have a smoke shop, where you can go buy bud, smoke it there, but you can not leave while being high that way you will not be able to operate a vehicle and pose a danger to the community.
thats like sayin you gotta chill at the bar until you sober up, you gonna sit in that shop for hours until you burn out? Drivin would be treated like it is now, a DUI
and yea, i think it should be legalized....I dont think the governement has any right to tell you what you can and cant do....as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. and dont tell me that it drains on our health care system.. If cigs and alcohol are legal, weed should be legal. All the other drugs...well, the same goes, its a personal choice. Its not like making it illegal is stopping anyone who wants to do it from doing it. The govt should focuse more on education and prevention than enforcement....i dont have a link, but im positive iv seen a study showing that education/prevention does more than the "war on drugs"
it would also eliminate the crime aspect from it....like how dropping prohibition stopped all the bootleggers, not to mention all the money the DEA wastes could be put into more important things
also if it was regulated and taxed....quality would be ensured, people would get EX with pure MDMA....not the shit laced with random chemicals etc
any drug addictions would get treated as they are now....but people could be more open about it, making it easier to get treated.
not to mention BC's economy would boom shakalaka boom.
does anyone know how the safe-shoot-up zone in Van City is workin out?
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legalize EVERYTHING, survival of the fittest
You mean hold people accountable for their actions? This is 2006 dog, and Americans don't play that shit.
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I like things the way they are.
That by itself is a good reason to legalize sherm.
Although I'd prefer cocaine and heroin remain illegal...shit's profitable, and I need enough money to buy AK-47s' and AR-15s' so that my crew can wage war on the devil when the time comes.
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Fuck no. Weed, sure, why not, but all that heavy shit? Nah, kids will get fucked up for life.
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Fuck no. Weed, sure, why not, but all that heavy shit? Nah, kids will get fucked up for life.
But I need that money...it will be used for benevolent purposes.
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I think weed and only weed should. Even my Economics/Government teacher who was a cop back in the days said he wouldn't have a problem with it ;D
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Fuck no. Weed, sure, why not, but all that heavy shit? Nah, kids will get fucked up for life.
But I need that money...it will be used for benevolent purposes.
I know too many people fucked up on that hardcore shit. We're gonna have to cut back on your bank.
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^^^+1 for that Spirit of the Truth shit :-*
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^^^+1 for that Spirit of the Truth shit :-*
Dats right. Prop me you nin-com-fuckin-poops!
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^^^+1 for that Spirit of the Truth shit :-*
Dats right. Prop me you nin-com-fuckin-poops!
Ya HOUSE NIGGA :oi:
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most addictive drugs
1. Cigs
2. Caffine
3. Alcohol
4. Heroin
5. Cocaine
6. Bud
isn't it funny how the 3 legal drugs are the most addictive? And the 3 "suppose" hard shit is the lower 3. Cigs are more addictive than heroin and cocaine, believe it or not.
Cigs kill thousands a people a year more than the 3 illegal drugs on the list combine. but yet those who use illegal drugs are looked down upon but those who abuse cigs and alcohol aren't. if you ask me, that's a joke. I believe as a society we need to look at ourselves and realize all this bullshit has to stop. I'm not saying we should make cigs and alcohol illegal but don't you think it's a lil hypocritical for our government to say Cigs and Alcohol are ok but those other Drugs are Bad! IDK fellas that's just me
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To me, putting adults into jail because they did something at home without harming anyone is ridiculous. Plain and simple. If I do coke at home, without sharing it with kids, without doing something irresponsible while on it like driving or so, without doing SHIT but having a good time, why in the fuck would I have to do time for that? I doesnt make sense. People above the age of 21 shouldnt be restricted from doing something that can only harm them and noone else, especially when plenty of harmful things are perfectly legal already.
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the government should outlaw cigarettes and alcohol; and institute universal health care at the same time. and also a nationwide fitness program.
the government should be willing to take care of people, and also ensure that people are taking care of themselves by desisting from smoking, drinking and getting regular excercise.
marijuana should be made legal; but only when smoked via a water bong (water filtration removes the carcinogenic particules in the smoke), or consumed in food or in tea.
health first!
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legalize EVERYTHING, survival of the fittest
damn right homie, 1st of all legalize crime(as murder) ;D
...serious? no man, if it's all legal it would have no sense listening to gangsta rap
...now, real serious? no man, I don't wanna see Snoop dying from an overdose
...real real serious? Hell no, what CIA would have to do after? they the ones who get all the crack in ur country
...Serious as fuck? no man, now for real...Society isn't based on chaos...and trust me, legalizing it would run into chaos, because of the overwhelming of crackheads on the street, zombie nations
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Should we leaglize drugs?????
Weed~yeah just for the simple reason that everyone smokes it.....and they use it for med. studies
but other stuff like coke,crack,acid,speed,herion,meth, thing like that no do not leglize them
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No...There are already enough dumbasses out there as it is, and by legalizing drugs there would be more dumbasses out there.....i dont want that, same goes for weed.....i know its less harmful than cigs and it could cure some people, but if you do not need to use it, then you should not be taking it......its people who smoke weed for fun and do dumb shit that ruin it for cancer patients who would really want to use it for medicinal purposes.....sad, my dad told me he went to work at some ladies house 2 days ago and she had some sort of stomach cancer and she smoked weed in order go get an appetite to eat something, well, she had plants her son brought her in her house, and some neighborhood kids wanted to get some weed off of her and offered her money, and she refused, and they called the cops on her and they took her plants away (they didnt arrest her, that would have been the most fucked up thing ever if they did)....how fucked up is that?......fuckin asshole kids, i dunno....that story kinda pissed me off, just thought i would share it
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No way, Jose. This isn't Holland. Drug use should be discouraged because it is so harmful. I like things the way they are.
pussy
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weed yes,
shrooms yes,
anythin else no
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No...There are already enough dumbasses out there as it is, and by legalizing drugs there would be more dumbasses out there.....i dont want that, same goes for weed.....i know its less harmful than cigs and it could cure some people, but if you do not need to use it, then you should not be taking it......its people who smoke weed for fun and do dumb shit that ruin it for cancer patients who would really want to use it for medicinal purposes.....sad, my dad told me he went to work at some ladies house 2 days ago and she had some sort of stomach cancer and she smoked weed in order go get an appetite to eat something, well, she had plants her son brought her in her house, and some neighborhood kids wanted to get some weed off of her and offered her money, and she refused, and they called the cops on her and they took her plants away (they didnt arrest her, that would have been the most fucked up thing ever if they did)....how fucked up is that?......fuckin asshole kids, i dunno....that story kinda pissed me off, just thought i would share it
what do you think about Cigs and Alcohol?
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No...There are already enough dumbasses out there as it is, and by legalizing drugs there would be more dumbasses out there.....i dont want that, same goes for weed.....i know its less harmful than cigs and it could cure some people, but if you do not need to use it, then you should not be taking it......its people who smoke weed for fun and do dumb shit that ruin it for cancer patients who would really want to use it for medicinal purposes.....sad, my dad told me he went to work at some ladies house 2 days ago and she had some sort of stomach cancer and she smoked weed in order go get an appetite to eat something, well, she had plants her son brought her in her house, and some neighborhood kids wanted to get some weed off of her and offered her money, and she refused, and they called the cops on her and they took her plants away (they didnt arrest her, that would have been the most fucked up thing ever if they did)....how fucked up is that?......fuckin asshole kids, i dunno....that story kinda pissed me off, just thought i would share it
what do you think about Cigs and Alcohol?
Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
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the government should outlaw cigarettes and alcohol; and institute universal health care at the same time. and also a nationwide fitness program.
the government should be willing to take care of people, and also ensure that people are taking care of themselves by desisting from smoking, drinking and getting regular excercise.
marijuana should be made legal; but only when smoked via a water bong (water filtration removes the carcinogenic particules in the smoke), or consumed in food or in tea.
health first!
I've never heard that about a water bong. Care to substantiate?
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i say yes. we should legalize but with a tax, we can then put that money into public services. I think it would be a great idea to have a smoke shop, where you can go buy bud, smoke it there, but you can not leave while being high that way you will not be able to operate a vehicle and pose a danger to the community.
thats like sayin you gotta chill at the bar until you sober up, you gonna sit in that shop for hours until you burn out? Drivin would be treated like it is now, a DUI
and yea, i think it should be legalized....I dont think the governement has any right to tell you what you can and cant do....as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. and dont tell me that it drains on our health care system.. If cigs and alcohol are legal, weed should be legal. All the other drugs...well, the same goes, its a personal choice. Its not like making it illegal is stopping anyone who wants to do it from doing it. The govt should focuse more on education and prevention than enforcement....i dont have a link, but im positive iv seen a study showing that education/prevention does more than the "war on drugs"
it would also eliminate the crime aspect from it....like how dropping prohibition stopped all the bootleggers, not to mention all the money the DEA wastes could be put into more important things
also if it was regulated and taxed....quality would be ensured, people would get EX with pure MDMA....not the shit laced with random chemicals etc
any drug addictions would get treated as they are now....but people could be more open about it, making it easier to get treated.
not to mention BC's economy would boom shakalaka boom.
does anyone know how the safe-shoot-up zone in Van City is workin out?
I couldnt have said it better myself buddy
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
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I've never heard that about a water bong. Care to substantiate?
You never heard that a bong is heathier? It removes a lot of the toxins through filteration. When the smoke passes through the water before being inhaled, it's a lot smoother. Have you not noticed that?
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No...There are already enough dumbasses out there as it is, and by legalizing drugs there would be more dumbasses out there.....i dont want that, same goes for weed.....i know its less harmful than cigs and it could cure some people, but if you do not need to use it, then you should not be taking it......its people who smoke weed for fun and do dumb shit that ruin it for cancer patients who would really want to use it for medicinal purposes.....sad, my dad told me he went to work at some ladies house 2 days ago and she had some sort of stomach cancer and she smoked weed in order go get an appetite to eat something, well, she had plants her son brought her in her house, and some neighborhood kids wanted to get some weed off of her and offered her money, and she refused, and they called the cops on her and they took her plants away (they didnt arrest her, that would have been the most fucked up thing ever if they did)....how fucked up is that?......fuckin asshole kids, i dunno....that story kinda pissed me off, just thought i would share it
Honestly, I dont think weed is what makes people dumb, weed has been around forever... its the fucken kids that sit home all day and soak up nothing but spongebob and patrick and just play video games. Kids are the future and thats what fucks us up. A lot of parents arent teaching their children usefull or smart things anymore because many parents these days dont know shit themselves. A lot of teenage mothers, a lot of broken down families etc. If anything, out of everybody I know, the people that smoke weed are smarter than the ones who dont... not because they smoke weed but because they are just straight up smarter. I think weed should be legalized only because cigs are legal and I think that cigs are a lot worse for you... I also think the reason weed isnt legal in the U.S. is because everybody could just grow it at home and the government would make no profit on it. So by that they legalize every single fucken smoking device out there even though they know that people really dont smoke tobacco out of crazy ass bongs, they even legalize crack pipes (when its literally impossible to smoke anything but crack or meth with crack pipes) I THINK some parts of the government actually brings in drugs to the U.S. to make profit both ways... u can call that killing two birds with 1 stone.
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someone who indulges in cigs and alcohol just because its legal is fucken stupid in my eyes. First off, cigs dont do shit for you besides kill you faster, make u stink, and on top of that it doesnt even get you high. Theres is no point in smoking cigs... and to smoke it just because its legal??? wow...
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No
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I've never heard that about a water bong. Care to substantiate?
You never heard that a bong is heathier? It removes a lot of the toxins through filteration. When the smoke passes through the water before being inhaled, it's a lot smoother. Have you not noticed that?
a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.
and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble.
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Smoking through a bong is fucking hardcore. Im done pretty fast when the bong goes around. And don't get me started about how my throat feels afterwards :nawty:.
On 9 out of 10 days I prefer blunts or sticky after sticky. :pimp:
Plus, shooties with blunts/spliffs just rule, especially if a girl gives it. :raisetheroof:
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Smoking through a bong is fucking hardcore. Im done pretty fast when the bong goes around. And don't get me started about how my throat feels afterwards :nawty:.
On 9 out of 10 days I prefer blunts or sticky after sticky. :pimp:
Plus, shooties with blunts/spliffs just rule, especially if a girl gives it. :raisetheroof:
^ youre weak, bongs are the shit, waste less weed... only problem is your lungs get savagely fucked up from bongs.
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Smoking through a bong is fucking hardcore. Im done pretty fast when the bong goes around. And don't get me started about how my throat feels afterwards :nawty:.
On 9 out of 10 days I prefer blunts or sticky after sticky. :pimp:
Plus, shooties with blunts/spliffs just rule, especially if a girl gives it. :raisetheroof:
^ youre weak, bongs are the shit, waste less weed... only problem is your lungs get savagely fucked up from bongs.
You smoke cigarettes? If you only smoke weed, like me, and don't have a problem with smoking from a bong all the time, you got my respect. But I don't know anyone who doesn't have smoker-lungs and can do that. Weak my ass, I can probably run longer and faster than you :P
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I've never heard that about a water bong. Care to substantiate?
You never heard that a bong is heathier? It removes a lot of the toxins through filteration. When the smoke passes through the water before being inhaled, it's a lot smoother. Have you not noticed that?
a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.
and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble.
First of all, you moron, a bong is KNOWN to be safer than a blunt, joint, pipe, etc. That's not even questionable, doctors will tell you the same thing, that's what water-pipes are made for. The smoke is a lot thicker when it doesn't pass through water, it's not rocket-science. Second of all, ecstasy is a WAY worse drug for you than coke is. Ecstasy eats holes in your brain, it's probably one of the worst drugs in the world...Boy, do you know a lot. ::)
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
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not to mention BC's economy would boom shakalaka boom.
another 6 billion dollars a year wouldn't hurt
does anyone know how the safe-shoot-up zone in Van City is workin out?
It hasn't been in the news recently, so I'm guessing it's going fine.
The mayor of Vancouver wants to decriminalize all drugs.
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
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I've never heard that about a water bong. Care to substantiate?
You never heard that a bong is heathier? It removes a lot of the toxins through filteration. When the smoke passes through the water before being inhaled, it's a lot smoother. Have you not noticed that?
a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.
and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble.
First of all, you moron, a bong is KNOWN to be safer than a blunt, joint, pipe, etc. That's not even questionable, doctors will tell you the same thing, that's what water-pipes are made for. The smoke is a lot thicker when it doesn't pass through water, it's not rocket-science. Second of all, ecstasy is a WAY worse drug for you than coke is. Ecstasy eats holes in your brain, it's probably one of the worst drugs in the world...Boy, do you know a lot. ::)
when i said ask your G.P, that means ask your doctor. dont try back your argument up with something i already said.
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lol @ every week smoker being an expert... self-justify all you like.. i'm telling you weed _does_ have bad affects.. especially psychologically.. everyone i've known who's toked "a lot" (i'm talking about as an everyday thang.. not socially) has ended up a 'sketchy' stay indoors in the dark, reclusive kinda person. just to make the point again before people jump on this.. i'm not saying that 'casual' usage has this affect.. but extended continuous usage definitely does.
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lol @ every week smoker being an expert... self-justify all you like.. i'm telling you weed _does_ have bad affects.. especially psychologically.. everyone i've known who's toked "a lot" (i'm talking about as an everyday thang.. not socially) has ended up a 'sketchy' stay indoors in the dark, reclusive kinda person. just to make the point again before people jump on this.. i'm not saying that 'casual' usage has this affect.. but extended continuous usage definitely does.
yea ive got some prime examples of those sorts of people in my life...
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lol @ every week smoker being an expert... self-justify all you like.. i'm telling you weed _does_ have bad affects.. especially psychologically.. everyone i've known who's toked "a lot" (i'm talking about as an everyday thang.. not socially) has ended up a 'sketchy' stay indoors in the dark, reclusive kinda person. just to make the point again before people jump on this.. i'm not saying that 'casual' usage has this affect.. but extended continuous usage definitely does.
every person is an individual, affects everyone in different ways.
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Mexico is about to legalize a lot of shit and I think it's a smart move...
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-legalize3may03,1,3361093.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage
...Cocaine. Heroin. LSD. Marijuana. PCP. Opium. Synthetic opiates. Mescaline. Peyote. Psilocybin mushrooms. Amphetamines. Methamphetamines.
And the per-person amounts approved for possession by anyone 18 or older could easily turn any college party into an all-nighter: half a gram of coke, a couple of Ecstasy pills, several doses of LSD, a few marijuana joints, a spoonful of heroin, 5 grams of opium and more than 2 pounds of peyote, the hallucinogenic cactus.
The law would be among the most permissive in the world, putting Mexico in the company of the Netherlands...
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the government should outlaw cigarettes and alcohol; and institute universal health care at the same time. and also a nationwide fitness program.
the government should be willing to take care of people, and also ensure that people are taking care of themselves by desisting from smoking, drinking and getting regular excercise.
marijuana should be made legal; but only when smoked via a water bong (water filtration removes the carcinogenic particules in the smoke), or consumed in food or in tea.
health first!
That's ridiculous. Cigarettes do not significantly alter mindstates to a level where one loses competence, and it creates many jobs.
Alcohol has numerous health benefits when used in moderation, and one can consume alcohol and not be drunk as long as it is done slowly and in moderation.
And people should take care of themselves, fuck governments in general.
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
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lol @ every week smoker being an expert... self-justify all you like.. i'm telling you weed _does_ have bad affects.. especially psychologically.. everyone i've known who's toked "a lot" (i'm talking about as an everyday thang.. not socially) has ended up a 'sketchy' stay indoors in the dark, reclusive kinda person. just to make the point again before people jump on this.. i'm not saying that 'casual' usage has this affect.. but extended continuous usage definitely does.
Well, that's pretty weak that those are your prime examples of weed-smokers...I know a lot of people who smoke on a regular basis and go out to clubs, parties, raves, and have a lot more fun than some people who don't. The "lazy-sketchy-pothead" image is nothing more than a stereotype, though it does apply to many...
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Ecstacy is definatly worse than cocaine and even heroin because lets face it the health services give heroin to patients everyday.
Ecstasy fucks up your brain, it raises your body tempreture so much and theres no telling what its been made with, atleast with coke theres less chance of it being cut with anything "abnormal".
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patients dont gert heroin they get morphine which is not the same thing as heroin (diacetylmorphine)
i've had morphine in a hospital and that shit is MAD crazy..
i know people that have been taking extasy (and in the last 4 years doing bombs of MDMA or even snorting it (yes its rough as shit) ) and they show no ill effects.. i've heard a few people say they get a weird depression if they dont take them for a while.. but only a few odd people who got into doing it too much..
as for coke.. i dunno.. i know people i never thought would do drugs who take a lot of coke.. and the friends i know who have taken a lot of drugs over the years say that coke is shit..
lol @ every week smoker being an expert... self-justify all you like.. i'm telling you weed _does_ have bad affects.. especially psychologically.. everyone i've known who's toked "a lot" (i'm talking about as an everyday thang.. not socially) has ended up a 'sketchy' stay indoors in the dark, reclusive kinda person. just to make the point again before people jump on this.. i'm not saying that 'casual' usage has this affect.. but extended continuous usage definitely does.
Well, that's pretty weak that those are your prime examples of weed-smokers...I know a lot of people who smoke on a regular basis and go out to clubs, parties, raves, and have a lot more fun than some people who don't. The "lazy-sketchy-pothead" image is nothing more than a stereotype, though it does apply to many...
regular or daily? i'm talking your "get out of bed and have a spliff for breakfast" kind of guy.
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patients dont gert heroin they get morphine which is not the same thing as heroin (diacetylmorphine)
i've had morphine in a hospital and that shit is MAD crazy..
i know people that have been taking extasy (and in the last 4 years doing bombs of MDMA or even snorting it (yes its rough as shit) ) and they show no ill effects.. i've heard a few people say they get a weird depression if they dont take them for a while.. but only a few odd people who got into doing it too much..
as for coke.. i dunno.. i know people i never thought would do drugs who take a lot of coke.. and the friends i know who have taken a lot of drugs over the years say that coke is shit..
lol @ every week smoker being an expert... self-justify all you like.. i'm telling you weed _does_ have bad affects.. especially psychologically.. everyone i've known who's toked "a lot" (i'm talking about as an everyday thang.. not socially) has ended up a 'sketchy' stay indoors in the dark, reclusive kinda person. just to make the point again before people jump on this.. i'm not saying that 'casual' usage has this affect.. but extended continuous usage definitely does.
Well, that's pretty weak that those are your prime examples of weed-smokers...I know a lot of people who smoke on a regular basis and go out to clubs, parties, raves, and have a lot more fun than some people who don't. The "lazy-sketchy-pothead" image is nothing more than a stereotype, though it does apply to many...
regular or daily? i'm talking your "get out of bed and have a spliff for breakfast" kind of guy.
Daily...
Even I'm a daily smoker and don't fit your description at all.
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Some dudes get fat from burgers, some don't - some dudes get their life sucked out of their flesh from weed, some don't. I know some nigga who had to go to the hospital because of drugs for rehabilitation. He always said he just smokes weed and nothing else, however I don't know if that was true. Probably not lol.
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
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You 2 niggaz really can't stand each other or is this all just an act?
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You 2 niggaz really can't stand each other or is this all just an act?
Im Proving a point.....and having fuun too! ;D
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I co sign what seer is sayin. Being a daily head after a while starts fuckin wit u
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
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a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.
and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble.
there have been several studies on the matter, which have revealed a decrease in carcinogenic particles in the smoke, decrease in compounds that induce a catatonic state (so it's a cleaner high), and a reduce in particles that are detrimental to the immune system. the conclusion is that water filtration is the safest way to smoke marijuana (or tobacco).
here's a paper on the issue:
http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/~cozzi/maps4-4-93.html
here are highlights, i've edited it for brevity. the original paper has references to the original studies.
In the late 1970's, a group based at the University of Athens Medical School (Greece) conducted a series of chemical and pharmacological studies on marijuana and tobacco smoke. <snip>Pharmacological tests (in mice) revealed that some of the water-trapped marijuana compounds were responsible for producing catatonia and for suppressing spontaneous motor activity. In contrast, the water-filtered smoke itself did not affect spontaneous motor activity and did not induce catatonia, though it was richer in THC.
<snip>
Research has shown that water filtration reduces both the amount of particulate matter and the number and quantity of toxic substances in the smoke that passes through it. In a 1963 study by Hoffman et al.,5 the water pipe was found to retain 90% of the phenol and 50% of the particulate matter and benzo-a-pyrene of the original tobacco smoke. In another study,6 tobacco smoke components that were passed through a water pipe showed only a minor hyperplasic reaction and no sebaceous gland destruction when they were painted onto mouse skin.
<snip>
Recently, Dr. Gary Huber at the University of Texas and colleagues from Harvard's School of Public Health conducted a cellular toxicity study of marijuana and tobacco smoke.8 This research group showed that passing marijuana or tobacco smoke through water, or even exposing the smoke to a wetted surface of about 48 square inches, effectively removed substances (acrolein and acetaldehyde) which are toxic to alveolar macrophages. Alveolar macrophages are one of the major defense cells of the lung and are an important component of the immune system.
<snip>
In summary, it appears that water filtration can be effective in removing components from marijuana smoke that are known toxicants, while allowing the THC to pass through relatively intact. <snip> While individuals vary greatly in their smoking technique, state of health, dosing regimen, and so on, it seems that many patients could benefit from the use of water pipes to deliver THC. This would allow patients to titrate their dose easily while reducing the health hazard associated with smoke.
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patients dont gert heroin they get morphine which is not the same thing as heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Surely the effects are similar though?
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
oh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.
and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
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^ yeah.. water is the 'safest' way to _still_ inhale toxins ??? hehe
i guess its like tobacco tho. some people some ciggies all their life and are fine.. others get lung cancer and die.. its a lottery.. all you're doing is decreasing your odds of 'losing'.
patients dont gert heroin they get morphine which is not the same thing as heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Surely the effects are similar though?
but without the massive addiction..
i was so shitfaced i need a wheel chair.. mad huh.. i'd only been overnight to have a operation on a tooth..
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a bong is definetly not 'healthier'.. ask your G.P.
and drugs shouldnt be legalized, you could 'de-criminalize' certain drugs, such as weed and ecstacy... but having coke, crack, ice or heroin legalized, thats just asking for trouble.
there have been several studies on the matter, which have revealed a decrease in carcinogenic particles in the smoke, decrease in compounds that induce a catatonic state (so it's a cleaner high), and a reduce in particles that are detrimental to the immune system. the conclusion is that water filtration is the safest way to smoke marijuana (or tobacco).
here's a paper on the issue:
http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/~cozzi/maps4-4-93.html
here are highlights, i've edited it for brevity. the original paper has references to the original studies.
In the late 1970's, a group based at the University of Athens Medical School (Greece) conducted a series of chemical and pharmacological studies on marijuana and tobacco smoke. <snip>Pharmacological tests (in mice) revealed that some of the water-trapped marijuana compounds were responsible for producing catatonia and for suppressing spontaneous motor activity. In contrast, the water-filtered smoke itself did not affect spontaneous motor activity and did not induce catatonia, though it was richer in THC.
<snip>
Research has shown that water filtration reduces both the amount of particulate matter and the number and quantity of toxic substances in the smoke that passes through it. In a 1963 study by Hoffman et al.,5 the water pipe was found to retain 90% of the phenol and 50% of the particulate matter and benzo-a-pyrene of the original tobacco smoke. In another study,6 tobacco smoke components that were passed through a water pipe showed only a minor hyperplasic reaction and no sebaceous gland destruction when they were painted onto mouse skin.
<snip>
Recently, Dr. Gary Huber at the University of Texas and colleagues from Harvard's School of Public Health conducted a cellular toxicity study of marijuana and tobacco smoke.8 This research group showed that passing marijuana or tobacco smoke through water, or even exposing the smoke to a wetted surface of about 48 square inches, effectively removed substances (acrolein and acetaldehyde) which are toxic to alveolar macrophages. Alveolar macrophages are one of the major defense cells of the lung and are an important component of the immune system.
<snip>
In summary, it appears that water filtration can be effective in removing components from marijuana smoke that are known toxicants, while allowing the THC to pass through relatively intact. <snip> While individuals vary greatly in their smoking technique, state of health, dosing regimen, and so on, it seems that many patients could benefit from the use of water pipes to deliver THC. This would allow patients to titrate their dose easily while reducing the health hazard associated with smoke.
Thank you! I didn't really think it took research to figure that out, LOL. I knew that shit when I was 5.
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
oh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.
and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... :-X
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
oh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.
and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... :-X
ok but my g.p told me bongs are worse, the smoke travels deeper into the lungs.
still, youre wrong about bongs wasting weed.
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
oh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.
and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... :-X
ok but my g.p told me bongs are worse, the smoke travels deeper into the lungs.
still, youre wrong about bongs wasting weed.
LMAO. Do I really need to MAKE you admit you were wrong about this one too? Bongs don't waste weed, burning weed with a direct flame does...Once again, it doesn't take a genius to know that...
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
oh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.
and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... :-X
ok but my g.p told me bongs are worse, the smoke travels deeper into the lungs.
still, youre wrong about bongs wasting weed.
LMAO. Do I really need to MAKE you admit you were wrong about this one too? Bongs don't waste weed, burning weed with a direct flame does...Once again, it doesn't take a genius to know that...
you only light the first part of the cone, then let it char until its ash... amatuers like you probably get too excited and whip it through before it's burnt.
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As for legalizing drugs. It probably depends on the drug. For example, I consider alcohol to be worse than marijuana. Allah specifically forbids alcohol in the Qu'ran. He says in it there is some good, but the bad outwieghs the good, so therefore he forbids it completely. Allah also mentions obstaining from all things harmful and not letting our own hands contribute to our destruction.
America has a drug problem that goes deeper than smoking weed and sniffing cocaine. America is also addicted to perscription drugs and over the counter medicine. Infact, coffee is a stimulant, and if you took that away from American's for one day this country would shut down.
One thing I don't agree with is throwing all these non-violent drug offenders in prison. That's attacking an outgrowth of the problem but it's not getting to the root of the tree. Imam Jamil Al Amin explains beautifully the roots of America's problems with addiction...
"This society arouses within you desires and passions that make you seek to escape reality by being high. Everything is geared toward keeping you in a state of euphoria. One holiday follows the next: Christmas to New Years, to Easter, to Mothers Day, to Fathers Day, to the NBA playoffs, to the Superbowl, to the Championship fights, to Olympics. Everything keeps you high. Everything is geared towards keeping you away from encountering reality, everything is geared to keep you from remembering God. The problem is not so much crack and cocaine, but that we live in a system that can infect, that develops within you an appetite to divorce yourself from reality. Therefore when intoxicants are introduced to you as a physical experience, you have already been conditioned spiritually and mentally. A condition has been created where you begin to oppress yourself in a state that is unnatural."
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As for legalizing drugs. It probably depends on the drug. For example, I consider alcohol to be worse than marijuana. Allah specifically forbids alcohol in the Qu'ran. He says in it there is some good, but the bad outwieghs the good, so therefore he forbids it completely. Allah also mentions obstaining from all things harmful and not letting our own hands contribute to our destruction.
America has a drug problem that goes deeper than smoking weed and sniffing cocaine. America is also addicted to perscription drugs and over the counter medicine. Infact, coffee is a stimulant, and if you took that away from American's for one day this country would shut down.
One thing I don't agree with is throwing all these non-violent drug offenders in prison. That's attacking an outgrowth of the problem but it's not getting to the root of the tree. Imam Jamil Al Amin explains beautifully the roots of America's problems with addiction...
"This society arouses within you desires and passions that make you seek to escape reality by being high. Everything is geared toward keeping you in a state of euphoria. One holiday follows the next: Christmas to New Years, to Easter, to Mothers Day, to Fathers Day, to the NBA playoffs, to the Superbowl, to the Championship fights, to Olympics. Everything keeps you high. Everything is geared towards keeping you away from encountering reality, everything is geared to keep you from remembering God. The problem is not so much crack and cocaine, but that we live in a system that can infect, that develops within you an appetite to divorce yourself from reality. Therefore when intoxicants are introduced to you as a physical experience, you have already been conditioned spiritually and mentally. A condition has been created where you begin to oppress yourself in a state that is unnatural."
drug addicts are usually involved in crime, buglaries theft etc. so yeah prison is where they should be, they probably account for 70% of the crime we have. some addicts evenb agree prison is the best place for them. Personally i don't think we have enough prisons, sentences are too lenient only to stop are prisons overflowing.
One of my old friends (i fell out with him a few months back) went inside because he almost killed someone, to be honest he should of got attempted murder or something, his solicitor even said he should have got that, he beat this guy up with a fence post and then stamped on his head a fair few times. i can't remember the specific charge he was on but it was one of the worst ones, he got minimum sentence 13 months and he was out in 6.
kinda moved off subject there back to the addicts..........
'Send us to jail' women beg judge
Two heroin addicts pleaded with a north Wales judge to send them to jail so they could kick their drugs habits.
The two women, in separate cases, told a district judge at Flintshire on Friday that they would re-offend if they were not given prison sentences.
Georgina Webster, 32, of Ruabon near Wrexham, was jailed for 28 days after she said seven days was too short a sentence.
Sarah Reade, 26, of Mostyn, Flintshire, received three months.
District Judge Andrew Shaw, sitting at Flintshire magistrates court in Mold, said the two cases were classic examples of the way drugs ruined lives.
He said: "People do not realise the effect of drugs. They are really sad cases."
But the probation service and the North East Wales NHS Trust both questioned whether prison was the best place for someone who was trying to beat their addiction.
The only way I can beat this is to go back to prison
Drug addict Sarah Reade
Webster said she was getting desperate and was worried what she might do if she stayed out of prison.
She said that the drugs rehabilitation authorities were unable to provide her with a methadone prescription until the end of the month.
Webster told the court: "I know I will re-offend. The only way I can see it out and to protect the general public, the supermarkets and myself is to go to prison."
She admitted theft, being in breach of a conditional discharge, and failing to answer bail on an earlier occasion.
The judge questioned her closely on whether she really knew what she was doing.
But Webster said it was impossible to give up drugs in the community.
She added: "I know what to expect. Being blunt, I am getting to a point where I am afraid of what I might do. I am getting desperate."
"I have been a heroin addict now for nearly seven years. I have never had a break. That is what I need now."
'Doubtful benefit'
Auxiliary nurse Reade also said the only way she could beat her heroin addiction was to go back to prison.
Reade, who brought bags with her into court ready for a prison sentence, admitted handling stolen property, shoplifting, and driving while disqualified.
She told the court: "The only way I can beat this is to go back to prison."
Ray Murphy, assistant chief officer for the probation service in north Wales, said he had no specific knowledge of the two cases, but told the BBC the women might have the chance in prison to "de-tox in forced circumstances".
But he cautioned: "Prisons have a reputation for being places where you can get drugs of the soft kind or the harder kind - that's what offenders say.
I would urge the two ladies to contact the drug service for wherever they live
NHS service manager Godfrey Hayes
"I guess sending two women to prison for six weeks might well serve as a punishment and to protect the public but as far as rehabilitation is concerned it's of doubtful benefit."
Mr Murphy told the BBC News website that if her sentence had a condition of attending a rehabilitation programme, the probation service would "see to that immediately".
Godfrey Hayes, from the North East Wales NHS Trust, said waiting times for referrals to drug treatment centres in the area had been greatly reduced.
People are seen within 10 days for assessment and treatment should begin within 30 days.
"We're still not happy with that but we have gone from 18 months to 10 days," Mr Hayes said.
He added: "I would urge the two ladies to contact the drug service for wherever they live."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/wales/4610874.stm
Published: 2006/01/14 08:59:15 GMT
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...
LMAO @ You, THE REBEL!!! Whoa, Watch out, NIK The Badass Coming thru....He Dont Follow NO ONE'S LAWS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! & LMAO @ you Believing you can get a Cannibus Card And Smoke Legally In California, Please...Go And Try and pull that shit with the cops, i hope they laugh at you and stick their nightsticks up your ass...hahaha (Congress Banned The Legalization of Medicinal Drugs to ALL STATES, dumbass....Look It up,,haha)
Answer Me this, how are you helping out the cause? the cause for legalization? you DONT care that cancer patients evidently, because your too busy being a badass spoiled rich kid to care, your a pathetic excuse for a life, continue being a little brat getting in trouble for smoking weed while mommy and daddy bail you out every time....Thats helping society ::)
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They will evenually legalize weed. Look how much it's making off the streets. Cigerattes is a fuckin billion dollar empire image what weed would be.
I don't think drugs should be legalized though.
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It should be legalized. It would hurt drug dealers by reducing prices..and with taxes. America would pimp the shit out of them.
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we, as americans, need to get rid of these fuckin Tobacco companies who not only kill thousands of people every year with their product but also advertise to children who think smoking is "cool thing"
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prime example of drugs that shouldnt be legalised..
http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=3072&CAT=homemov&NSFW=0&rtn=search-3072&Keywords=dance
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The only reason a bong is hurting your throats is most likely because you take in a lot more smoke at once with a bong. Bongs also DO NOT waste less weed, they wast the most weed, because you're burning the weed directly with a flame...Lets see how many more "rumors" I can disprove in this thread...
joints are burning constantly, you have smoke which goes into the air which is un-smoked. if you smoke a bong slowly, you will smoke every last granule of it. without wasting it unless you cough it out.
when you smoke bongs, the smoke reaches parts of your lungs which joints/blunts/pipes cant reach. you take in more smoke, and the smoke travels deaper. you also get water vapour in your lungs from the smoke passing through h20.
ask anyone that takes drugs, what has greater side effects, coke or ecstacy. ecstacy is even graded class B drug, not like free-base, coke, crack coke, ice or heroin, all of these are class A drugs.
Okay, I'm sorry, but you're just ignorant. Even when they sell you a bong, they have signs that tell you how "water-pipes" filter the smoke and remove 50% of toxins from smoke. I didn't even think this was debatable, when you're smoking a joint, it's not filtered whatsoever, the smoke is passing straight into your lungs, which is really bad for you. I can't even believe I'm debating this...And I can't believe I have to debate whether ecstacy is worse for you than coke...WCC is a funny place...LOL
oh yes, because smoke passing through water is a magical filter... think before you speak. it makes it smoother thats true, doesnt mean it's safer.
and coke has far worse ramifications mentally than ecstasy.
Are you okay? Someone just posted a fucking article for you which contained proof, genius. How can you argue research? You're ignorant, stop spreading misinformation... :-X
ok but my g.p told me bongs are worse, the smoke travels deeper into the lungs.
still, youre wrong about bongs wasting weed.
LMAO. Do I really need to MAKE you admit you were wrong about this one too? Bongs don't waste weed, burning weed with a direct flame does...Once again, it doesn't take a genius to know that...
you only light the first part of the cone, then let it char until its ash... amatuers like you probably get too excited and whip it through before it's burnt.
No, moron, but it doesn't change the FACT that lighting it with a flame burns it faster...How ignorant can you get, I mean, honestly?
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^ well you burn a joint with a flame too dont you ? lol
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...
LMAO @ You, THE REBEL!!! Whoa, Watch out, NIK The Badass Coming thru....He Dont Follow NO ONE'S LAWS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! & LMAO @ you Believing you can get a Cannibus Card And Smoke Legally In California, Please...Go And Try and pull that shit with the cops, i hope they laugh at you and stick their nightsticks up your ass...hahaha (Congress Banned The Legalization of Medicinal Drugs to ALL STATES, dumbass....Look It up,,haha)
Answer Me this, how are you helping out the cause? the cause for legalization? you DONT care that cancer patients evidently, because your too busy being a badass spoiled rich kid to care, your a pathetic excuse for a life, continue being a little brat getting in trouble for smoking weed while mommy and daddy bail you out every time....Thats helping society ::)
Dude, do you even know what the fuck you're saying anymore? LOL. I don't really know why I bother replying to your retarded ass, maybe it's in hopes of having you realize how dumb you really are. You can't comprehend shit, it's actually quite amazing and it gets frustrating to have to re-explain things to someone who can't understand. Sometimes I honestly think I just reply to you to feel like a genius...You can smoke weed legally according to California Law, moron, it's just Federal Law that forbids it. I know this because I know people who have Cannabis Club cards and have used it when being fucked with by cops...They won't go through the trouble to fuck with someone with a card for a minor bullshit charge...Of course, you have no idea what the fuck I'm saying by now and are most likely completely lost. What are you even ATTEMPTING to imply here? That people who smoke weed without helping the cause for legalization are "pathetic excuses for a life"?...I can keep telling you how dumb you are, but I'm pretty sure you get the point by now. At least this passes time though... :-\
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^ well you burn a joint with a flame too dont you ? lol
When you spark a joint/blunt, you only touch the flame to the tip, it doesn't touch the whole thing like when you're lighting bowls, genius...
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^ well you burn a joint with a flame too dont you ? lol
genius...
oh stop.. :)
listen, if you only burn the weed for a bit at a time, you can burn it real slow, and not waste a bit... you chop up half the amount of weed, and get twice as stoned... read your holy report some dude posted, that even says a bong releases more THC or some shit.
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^ well you burn a joint with a flame too dont you ? lol
genius...
oh stop.. :)
listen, if you only burn the weed for a bit at a time, you can burn it real slow, and not waste a bit... you chop up half the amount of weed, and get twice as stoned... read your holy report some dude posted, that even says a bong releases more THC or some shit.
I never said you don't get higher from hitting the bong...I just said it wastes more weed, because no matter how slow you burn it, the flame touches all the weed directly and burns it quicker...One gram in a blunt can last me 25+ minutes...I can't get sessions that long with a bong. It's common sense though, you don't really need to read anything to understand this...PeACe
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i saw why not? ppl do it anyways.
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...
LMAO @ You, THE REBEL!!! Whoa, Watch out, NIK The Badass Coming thru....He Dont Follow NO ONE'S LAWS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! & LMAO @ you Believing you can get a Cannibus Card And Smoke Legally In California, Please...Go And Try and pull that shit with the cops, i hope they laugh at you and stick their nightsticks up your ass...hahaha (Congress Banned The Legalization of Medicinal Drugs to ALL STATES, dumbass....Look It up,,haha)
Answer Me this, how are you helping out the cause? the cause for legalization? you DONT care that cancer patients evidently, because your too busy being a badass spoiled rich kid to care, your a pathetic excuse for a life, continue being a little brat getting in trouble for smoking weed while mommy and daddy bail you out every time....Thats helping society ::)
Dude, do you even know what the fuck you're saying anymore? LOL. I don't really know why I bother replying to your retarded ass, maybe it's in hopes of having you realize how dumb you really are. You can't comprehend shit, it's actually quite amazing and it gets frustrating to have to re-explain things to someone who can't understand. Sometimes I honestly think I just reply to you to feel like a genius...You can smoke weed legally according to California Law, moron, it's just Federal Law that forbids it. I know this because I know people who have Cannabis Club cards and have used it when being fucked with by cops...They won't go through the trouble to fuck with someone with a card for a minor bullshit charge...Of course, you have no idea what the fuck I'm saying by now and are most likely completely lost. What are you even ATTEMPTING to imply here? That people who smoke weed without helping the cause for legalization are "pathetic excuses for a life"?...I can keep telling you how dumb you are, but I'm pretty sure you get the point by now. At least this passes time though... :-\
So State Law overrides Federal Law?? LMAO!! @ you trying to talk to me about law!!! & you dodging my question....HOW ARE YOU HELPING THE CAUSE FOR LEGALIZATION??
and to answer your question, Yes, people who keep smoking weed, getting caught, having their parents bail them out and repeating the cycle are a pathetic excuse for a life (sorry you fall into that category, but its true) Tell me how that isnt true? tell me how your helping society, i mean, you even work for your parents still!!! LMAO!!!! you have done nothing for yourself, Even you dad tried to help your Rap career and what do you do to repay him? end up wasting his money, and now working for him which prob. has him losing money and a more qualified person is out on a job because daddy has to give his son dibbs on work. You should re evaluate your life, seriously.
And Im done
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...
LMAO @ You, THE REBEL!!! Whoa, Watch out, NIK The Badass Coming thru....He Dont Follow NO ONE'S LAWS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! & LMAO @ you Believing you can get a Cannibus Card And Smoke Legally In California, Please...Go And Try and pull that shit with the cops, i hope they laugh at you and stick their nightsticks up your ass...hahaha (Congress Banned The Legalization of Medicinal Drugs to ALL STATES, dumbass....Look It up,,haha)
Answer Me this, how are you helping out the cause? the cause for legalization? you DONT care that cancer patients evidently, because your too busy being a badass spoiled rich kid to care, your a pathetic excuse for a life, continue being a little brat getting in trouble for smoking weed while mommy and daddy bail you out every time....Thats helping society ::)
Dude, do you even know what the fuck you're saying anymore? LOL. I don't really know why I bother replying to your retarded ass, maybe it's in hopes of having you realize how dumb you really are. You can't comprehend shit, it's actually quite amazing and it gets frustrating to have to re-explain things to someone who can't understand. Sometimes I honestly think I just reply to you to feel like a genius...You can smoke weed legally according to California Law, moron, it's just Federal Law that forbids it. I know this because I know people who have Cannabis Club cards and have used it when being fucked with by cops...They won't go through the trouble to fuck with someone with a card for a minor bullshit charge...Of course, you have no idea what the fuck I'm saying by now and are most likely completely lost. What are you even ATTEMPTING to imply here? That people who smoke weed without helping the cause for legalization are "pathetic excuses for a life"?...I can keep telling you how dumb you are, but I'm pretty sure you get the point by now. At least this passes time though... :-\
So State Law overrides Federal Law?? LMAO!! @ you trying to talk to me about law!!! & you dodging my question....HOW ARE YOU HELPING THE CAUSE FOR LEGALIZATION??
and to answer your question, Yes, people who keep smoking weed, getting caught, having their parents bail them out and repeating the cycle are a pathetic excuse for a life (sorry you fall into that category, but its true) Tell me how that isnt true? tell me how your helping society, i mean, you even work for your parents still!!! LMAO!!!! you have done nothing for yourself, Even you dad tried to help your Rap career and what do you do to repay him? end up wasting his money, and now working for him which prob. has him losing money and a more qualified person is out on a job because daddy has to give his son dibbs on work. You should re evaluate your life, seriously.
And Im done
State Law doesn't override Federal Law, moron, but they'd have to take it to FEDERAL COURT to make it a case, and they wouldn't waste time on some bullshit like that...That's why you can still obtain the cards from doctors LEGALY. You're just too stupid to understand all this. I have proof, I know homies who have those cards and have been pulled over by cops. The cops didn't do shit because it's way too much hassle for a minor charge. I dunno how much of that your brain can get, but I doubt the message is really getting through. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. Millions of people smoke weed. A majority of those have gotten busted by cops at one point or another...I got busted once, out of ALL my days smoking weed. How is that relevant to me helping society and/or "being pathetic excuse for human life"? And who the fuck told you I work for my parents...WTF? LMAO...Now you're just pullin' shit out your ass. I don't think you get how fuckin' stupid you come off on this board. You make the absolute dumbest comments, and trust me man, I know how to pick the dumb from the smart...You are a CLASS A MORON. I shit on you and I have no respect for people who are anywhere near your level... :nawty:
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^ well you burn a joint with a flame too dont you ? lol
genius...
oh stop.. :)
listen, if you only burn the weed for a bit at a time, you can burn it real slow, and not waste a bit... you chop up half the amount of weed, and get twice as stoned... read your holy report some dude posted, that even says a bong releases more THC or some shit.
I never said you don't get higher from hitting the bong...I just said it wastes more weed, because no matter how slow you burn it, the flame touches all the weed directly and burns it quicker...One gram in a blunt can last me 25+ minutes...I can't get sessions that long with a bong. It's common sense though, you don't really need to read anything to understand this...PeACe
haha man, you goto learn to admit when you wrong, atleast i backed off my argument before... but whatever, you think bongs get you more high, but at the same time waste more weed... that aint right !! if you gettin more high off a smaller supply, your saving weed, not wasting it.
but yeah, i like to smoke joints nowadays anyway, more relaxing and like you said, enjoy the art of smoking weed longer...
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^ well you burn a joint with a flame too dont you ? lol
genius...
oh stop.. :)
listen, if you only burn the weed for a bit at a time, you can burn it real slow, and not waste a bit... you chop up half the amount of weed, and get twice as stoned... read your holy report some dude posted, that even says a bong releases more THC or some shit.
I never said you don't get higher from hitting the bong...I just said it wastes more weed, because no matter how slow you burn it, the flame touches all the weed directly and burns it quicker...One gram in a blunt can last me 25+ minutes...I can't get sessions that long with a bong. It's common sense though, you don't really need to read anything to understand this...PeACe
haha man, you goto learn to admit when you wrong, atleast i backed off my argument before... but whatever, you think bongs get you more high, but at the same time waste more weed... that aint right !! if you gettin more high off a smaller supply, your saving weed, not wasting it.
but yeah, i like to smoke joints nowadays anyway, more relaxing and like you said, enjoy the art of smoking weed longer...
I know you're not as slow as E-Crazy, so I'm gunna spare you, but come on man, you've been proven wrong numerous times in this one thread. LOL. How can you even claim someone else needs to admit when they're wrong? You've been learning lessons here and shit...Let me simplify it so it can make more sense for you. Hitting weed straight out the bong will get you higher off a smaller supply. However, it wastes weed in the sense that it burns quicker and lasts you less. That's actually what vaporizers were invented for, so you can get the maximum out of your weed (it burns the weed at much cooler temperatures). When you roll a blunt, the weed wont go to waste as quick, it will last much longer and you will get more hits than if you were to hit it out the bong, which brings me to the SIMPLE conclusion that bongs waste weed more than blunts do...PeACe
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Both Bad, but since they are both legal I indulge in both. Neither helps out society like weed could, but dumb ass people who do dumb ass things fuck it up for the people who need it. No one needs to drink or smoke ciggarettes, but people do it and it has become acceptable in society to drink and "be merry" and smoke cigarettes and it will not happen with weed unless the people who are using it that dont need it stop. I am FOR legalizing weed, but only for the people who need it.
LMAO. You smoke cigarettes and drink because it's acceptable??...YOU'RE STRAIGHT WEAKSAUCE, SON.
OH MAN, YOUR SO HARDCORE,....YOU SMOKE WEED!!! OH MAN, AND TRIP OFF MUSHROOMS AND ACID AT THE SAME TIME!!! OH MAN, AND YOU WORK FOR YOUR DADDY AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ON DUBCC AT THE SAME TIME!!
please kid, i was making a point, idiots like you who abuse something that has a potential to help someone live a little longer or not suffer should be shot in the face, your a pathetic excuse for a life.
You're point is about as dumb as it gets. How do I abuse weed? LMAO. Because I enjoy smoking it? Your point is that someone who smokes weed for enjoyment is a "pathetic piece of life"...Your 'points' are moronic, and your brain level is equivelant to that of a monkey's, which is why no one has any respect for you... :-*
hahaha, you trying to justify yourself is hilarious
All The People at the city of hope who really would like to have some weed to help their stomach cancer or help their glaucoma really cant, because dumbfucks like you who get caught with weed, baggies and a scale give weed a bad name....you really have no use for weed, other than for "Enjoyment", they have a need for it, they cant use it, You ARE a pathetic excuse for a life because you will continue to Use it and not give a fuck.
WHAT A MORON! LMAO...I don't live my life according to laws. If I want to smoke weed, I smoke weed. I'm not a fucking fruitcup like you who only does things because they're legal, I have a mind of my own and I make my own rules. You, on the other hand, don't have a brain AT ALL, so you need laws to tell you what's right and what's wrong. If I want to smoke weed, I do it. If the government wants to outlaw weed for people who need it for health concerns because I enjoy it, how the FUCK is that my fault? That's the fucking governments fault, you dumbshit...People should be able to smoke weed whenever they want. On top of that, you can still get a cannabis club card and smoke legaly in California, you fucking IDIOT. I am a pathetic excuse for a human life because I smoke weed and don't give a fuck? Dude, do you know you're the dumbest guy alive? I know I say this to you a lot, but it's 100% the truth...I've never met anyone whos thoughts are as dumb as yours. How the hell do you survive in this world with such a horrible brain? I'd hate to be you...
LMAO @ You, THE REBEL!!! Whoa, Watch out, NIK The Badass Coming thru....He Dont Follow NO ONE'S LAWS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! & LMAO @ you Believing you can get a Cannibus Card And Smoke Legally In California, Please...Go And Try and pull that shit with the cops, i hope they laugh at you and stick their nightsticks up your ass...hahaha (Congress Banned The Legalization of Medicinal Drugs to ALL STATES, dumbass....Look It up,,haha)
Answer Me this, how are you helping out the cause? the cause for legalization? you DONT care that cancer patients evidently, because your too busy being a badass spoiled rich kid to care, your a pathetic excuse for a life, continue being a little brat getting in trouble for smoking weed while mommy and daddy bail you out every time....Thats helping society ::)
Dude, do you even know what the fuck you're saying anymore? LOL. I don't really know why I bother replying to your retarded ass, maybe it's in hopes of having you realize how dumb you really are. You can't comprehend shit, it's actually quite amazing and it gets frustrating to have to re-explain things to someone who can't understand. Sometimes I honestly think I just reply to you to feel like a genius...You can smoke weed legally according to California Law, moron, it's just Federal Law that forbids it. I know this because I know people who have Cannabis Club cards and have used it when being fucked with by cops...They won't go through the trouble to fuck with someone with a card for a minor bullshit charge...Of course, you have no idea what the fuck I'm saying by now and are most likely completely lost. What are you even ATTEMPTING to imply here? That people who smoke weed without helping the cause for legalization are "pathetic excuses for a life"?...I can keep telling you how dumb you are, but I'm pretty sure you get the point by now. At least this passes time though... :-\
So State Law overrides Federal Law?? LMAO!! @ you trying to talk to me about law!!! & you dodging my question....HOW ARE YOU HELPING THE CAUSE FOR LEGALIZATION??
and to answer your question, Yes, people who keep smoking weed, getting caught, having their parents bail them out and repeating the cycle are a pathetic excuse for a life (sorry you fall into that category, but its true) Tell me how that isnt true? tell me how your helping society, i mean, you even work for your parents still!!! LMAO!!!! you have done nothing for yourself, Even you dad tried to help your Rap career and what do you do to repay him? end up wasting his money, and now working for him which prob. has him losing money and a more qualified person is out on a job because daddy has to give his son dibbs on work. You should re evaluate your life, seriously.
And Im done
State Law doesn't override Federal Law, moron, but they'd have to take it to FEDERAL COURT to make it a case, and they wouldn't waste time on some bullshit like that...That's why you can still obtain the cards from doctors LEGALY. You're just too stupid to understand all this. I have proof, I know homies who have those cards and have been pulled over by cops. The cops didn't do shit because it's way too much hassle for a minor charge. I dunno how much of that your brain can get, but I doubt the message is really getting through. YOU MAKE NO SENSE. Millions of people smoke weed. A majority of those have gotten busted by cops at one point or another...I got busted once, out of ALL my days smoking weed. How is that relevant to me helping society and/or "being pathetic excuse for human life"? And who the fuck told you I work for my parents...WTF? LMAO...Now you're just pullin' shit out your ass. I don't think you get how fuckin' stupid you come off on this board. You make the absolute dumbest comments, and trust me man, I know how to pick the dumb from the smart...You are a CLASS A MORON. I shit on you and I have no respect for people who are anywhere near your level... :nawty:
so because your friends say so, it must be true!! LMAO @ you believing there is such thing as a legal cannibus card, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! - And you said you worked for your dad many times in previous posts, dont make me search please...lol!! Your the one pulling shit out your ass, with fake cannibus cards that magically override laws, right? LOL..... Having weed is NOT a Federal offense, so why would it even go to Federal Court unless your Trafficing it? HAHAHA!
You just ramble now, all you say is the same thing, "oh man, your a moron idiotic because my homies have tried it and the cops said so they must be right i have proof" LMAO!!!
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so because your friends say so, it must be true!! LMAO @ you believing there is such thing as a legal cannibus card, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! - And you said you worked for your dad many times in previous posts, dont make me search please...lol!! Your the one pulling shit out your ass, with fake cannibus cards that magically override laws, right? LOL..... Having weed is NOT a Federal offense, so why would it even go to Federal Court unless your Trafficing it? HAHAHA!
You just ramble now, all you say is the same thing, "oh man, your a moron idiotic because my homies have tried it and the cops said so they must be right i have proof" LMAO!!!
You seriously need help, man…You make no fucking sense at all VVV
WASHINGTON – Angel Raich and Diane Monson know plenty about the failings of modern medicine.
In searching for an alternative, and upon their physicians' advice, the two California residents started using marijuana. Both say it helps them cope with pain.
But, yes, there is a problem. While medical use of marijuana is authorized under a 1996 California law, federal law bans marijuana as an illegal drug.
Monday Raich and Monson's case arrives at the US Supreme Court where the justices must decide whether California law or federal law should apply.
How the justices decide the case could affect more than just the applicability of medical-marijuana laws in California and a handful of other states with similar provisions. It could redefine the balance of power between Congress and the states and become a signature decision of the Supreme Court under Chief Justice William Rehnquist.
"I think it will be a landmark, one way or the other," says Randy Barnett, a professor at Boston University School of Law, who is arguing the case for Raich and Monson.
Ultimately at issue in the case is to what extent the Constitution places limits, under the commerce clause, on Congress's ability to regulate areas that have traditionally been left to state and local jurisdictions.
Legal analysts say one aspect of the case that makes it particularly worth watching is the mix of a liberal policy issue - medical-marijuana use - with a constitutional principle embraced by conservatives - federalism (state sovereignty).
Will conservative justices support federalism even when it means upholding a liberal marijuana-use law that they would probably never otherwise endorse? And will liberal justices support the medical-marijuana provision even when their support of it might advance a view of federalism considered anathema by the court's dissenting liberal wing in earlier cases?
At the time the Constitution was written, the federal government's powers were sharply constrained to avoid conflicts with state and local laws. Other than a few areas subject to federal jurisdiction, all other areas were to be left to the states.
The Constitution specifically empowers Congress to regulate commerce among states. For much of the nation's history, this provision meant that Congress could pass laws concerning interstate trade and other activities among and between the states to facilitate the emergence of a national economy. But the controlling feature of the clause has always been how the high court defines "commerce."
In the late 1930s and early 1940s, the Supreme Court embraced a broad view of "commerce," ruling that congressional power to regulate the economy wasn't strictly confined to interstate commercial activities. The justices announced that congressional power could extend to intrastate activity, upholding federal regulation of wheat produced on a family farm - even when the wheat was grown for consumption only on the farm.
That landmark 1942 decision called Wickard v. Filburn opened the door for congressional regulation reaching down to the state and local level - as long as whatever was being regulated had an impact on "commerce," as it was broadly defined by the high court.
This definition permitted an explosive growth in national legislation that continued unabated until 1995, when the justices by a 5-to-4 vote struck down the Gun-Free School Zones Act. In 2000, the same 5-to-4 majority invalidated a portion of the Violence Against Women Act that authorized victims of gender-motivated violence to sue their attackers in federal court.
Many analysts say the medical- marijuana case places the high court at a crossroads. It can either continue the trend begun with its rulings in 1995 and 2000, or it can step back and authorize what some say would be even broader federal power at the expense of state sovereignty. "If the court upholds [the Justice Department's] claim of federal power, this case will supplant Wickard to become the most expansive interpretation of the commerce clause since the founding," say Robert Long Jr. and Professor Barnett in their brief to the court on behalf of Raich and Monson.
Acting Solicitor General Paul Clement says the medical use of marijuana cannot escape congressional regulation any more than farm-consumed wheat did in the Wickard case. If the federal government were unable to enforce federal drug laws within a particular state, it would undercut Congress's goal of effectively countering the illicit trade in narcotics.
"[Raich and Monson's] conduct is economic activity because it occurs in, and substantially affects, the marijuana market generally," Mr. Clement says in his brief.
Lawyers for Raich and Monson disagree. Monson grows her own marijuana at home. Raich, who is unable to grow her own, is supplied marijuana free of charge by two growers who use only supplies originating in or manufactured in California.
Some analysts are raising questions about the potential broad impact of a ruling in favor of Raich and Monson. They suggest that it could complicate enforcement of federal child-pornography laws and other statutes.
Barnett says such concerns are overblown: Cases involving possession of child pornography within one state could be turned over to state prosecutors.
You dumb, incompetent muthafucka…That means they have to take you to FEDERAL COURT to make it a case. No one goes through that trouble…People on this board have cannabis club cards and have used it. I get legal weed from the Cannabis Club all the time. You are so fuckin’ stupid, that you’re the only person on WCC who actually takes their time to argue facts…You fuckin’ dumbed down retard…
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^^You idiot, so when you were caught with weed, baggies and a scale, you went to federal court??
LMAO
California Penal Code Makes Marijuana Posession Illegal As Well, why do you think you were busted!! LMAO!!!
If they really need it, say a cancer patient, why would they arrest a cancer patient? they just take the weed away from them, like the lady my dad was telling me about. Thats the only reason i would see a cop not arresting someone, or if its for less than a gram of weed their arresting them for.
It's Still Illegal, there is no "LEGAL" weed in the United States, your living a dream, why are you getting so upset nik? is it cuz you keep coming up wrong? LMAO!!! hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha!!!
On December 12, the California 1st District Court of Appeal ruled that medical marijuana "clubs" cannot legally sell the drug despite the passage in 1996 of Proposition 215, California's medical marijuana initiative. The ruling will go into effect in 30 days unless stayed by further appeals (Stephen Schwartz, "Medical Marijuana Clubs Illegal," San Francisco Chronicle, December 13, 1997, p. A1; Katherine Seligman, "Court clamps down on pot club," San Francisco Examiner, December 13, 1997, p. A1; Reuters, "Marijuana Clubs Illegal, California Court Rules," New York Times, December 14, 1997, p. A42; "Cannabis Buyers' Club Isn't Legal Under California's 'Medical Use of Marijuana' Law," Criminal Law Reporter, December 24, 1997, p. 1267) (see "Medical Marijuana Measures Pass November 5th Ballots in California and Arizona ..." NewsBriefs, December 1996).
http://www.ndsn.org/jan98/medmj1.html
Your Done
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you lovebirds crack me up
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^^You idiot, so when you were caught with weed, baggies and a scale, you went to federal court??
LMAO
California Penal Code Makes Marijuana Posession Illegal As Well, why do you think you were busted!! LMAO!!!
If they really need it, say a cancer patient, why would they arrest a cancer patient? they just take the weed away from them, like the lady my dad was telling me about. Thats the only reason i would see a cop not arresting someone, or if its for less than a gram of weed their arresting them for.
It's Still Illegal, there is no "LEGAL" weed in the United States, your living a dream, why are you getting so upset nik? is it cuz you keep coming up wrong? LMAO!!! hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha!!!
YOU MORON!!! ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID? Oh wait, I keep forgetting that there are no standards with you. I got busted because I didn't have a CANNABIS CLUB CARD, moron...You have to get it prescribed by a doctor for it to be legal. You are so retarded that you argue against what our laws are when all you really have to do is look it up...IDIOT.
On December 12, the California 1st District Court of Appeal ruled that medical marijuana "clubs" cannot legally sell the drug despite the passage in 1996 of Proposition 215, California's medical marijuana initiative. The ruling will go into effect in 30 days unless stayed by further appeals (Stephen Schwartz, "Medical Marijuana Clubs Illegal," San Francisco Chronicle, December 13, 1997, p. A1; Katherine Seligman, "Court clamps down on pot club," San Francisco Examiner, December 13, 1997, p. A1; Reuters, "Marijuana Clubs Illegal, California Court Rules," New York Times, December 14, 1997, p. A42; "Cannabis Buyers' Club Isn't Legal Under California's 'Medical Use of Marijuana' Law," Criminal Law Reporter, December 24, 1997, p. 1267) (see "Medical Marijuana Measures Pass November 5th Ballots in California and Arizona ..." NewsBriefs, December 1996).
LMAO! Look at the dates...You are a joke. :-X
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^^The law passed in 96, since when has anything new passed, especially state laws that would over ride this?
LMAO @ u getting frustrated because your still wrong, this is funny as fuck!!!
hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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i think User is winning this one 8)
nice points, both of you guys
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^^The law passed in 96, since when has anything new passed, especially state laws that would over ride this?
LMAO @ u getting frustrated because your still wrong, this is funny as fuck!!!
hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
You dumb mutherfucker, why do you argue facts? It is a fact that weed is illegal federaly. It is also a fact that if you obtain a Cannabis Club Card from a doctor for medical purposes, you can legally smoke weed in California...You are just too stupid to understand this, and I don't wanna waste time looking up more articles for your moronic ass, because you don't know how to read and you still wont understand it...PeACe
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i think User is winning this one 8)
nice points, both of you guys
How is he winning if it's a FACT that you can get weed prescribed from a doctor LEGALLY? You're just mad cuz you got sonned in this very thread and you had no response...So now you're just riding his lame-ass arguments...When will you kids ever learn? 8)
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California Physicians & Medical Marijuana
On November 5, 1996, the people of California passed Proposition 215. Through this Initiative Measure, Section 11362.5 was added to the Health & Safety Code, and is also known as the Compassionate Use Act of 1996. The purposes of the Act include, in part:
“(A) To ensure that seriously ill Californians have the right to obtain and use marijuana for medical purposes where the medical use is deemed appropriate and has been recommended by a physician who has determined that the person’s health would benefit from the use of marijuana in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief; and
(B) To ensure that patients and their primary caregivers who obtain and use marijuana for medical purposes upon the recommendation of a physician are not subject to criminal prosecution or sanction.”
Furthermore, Health & Safety Code section 11362.5(c) provides strong protection for physicians who choose to participate in the implementation of the Act. – “Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no physician in this state shall be punished, or denied any right or privilege, for having recommended marijuana to a patient for medical purposes.”
The Medical Board of California (MBC) and the California Medical Association (CMA) worked together to develop this statement since medical marijuana is an emerging treatment modality. The MBC wants to assure physicians who choose to recommend medical marijuana to their patients, as part of their regular practice of medicine, that they WILL NOT be subject to investigation or disciplinary action by the MBC if they arrive at the decision to make this recommendation in accordance with the accepted standards of medical responsibility. The mere receipt of a complaint that the physician is recommending medical marijuana will not generate an investigation absent additional information indicating that the physician is not adhering to accepted medical standards.
These accepted standards are the same as any reasonable and prudent physician would follow when recommending or approving any other medication, or therapeutic intervention or prescribing any drug that requires a prescription** and include the following:
History and good faith examination of the patient.
Development of a treatment plan with objectives.
Provision of informed consent including discussion of side effects.
Periodic review of the treatment’s efficacy.
Consultation, as necessary.
Proper record keeping that supports the decision to recommend the use of medical marijuana.
In other words, if physicians use the same care in recommending medical marijuana to patients as they would recommending or approving any other medication, therapeutic intervention or prescription drug treatment** they have nothing to fear from the Medical Board.
Here are some important points to consider when recommending medical marijuana:
1. Although it could trigger federal action, making a recommendation in writing to the patient will not trigger action by the Medical Board of California.
2. A patient need not have failed on all standard medications, in order for a physician to recommend or approve the use of medical marijuana.
3. The physician should determine that medical marijuana use is not masking an acute or treatable progressive condition, or that such use will lead to a worsening of the patient’s condition.
4. The Act names certain medical conditions for which medical marijuana may be useful, although physicians are not limited in their recommendations to those specific conditions. In all cases, the physician should base his/her determination on the results of clinical trials, if available, medical literature and reports, or on experience of that physician or other physicians, or on credible patient reports. In all cases, the physician must determine that the risk/benefit ratio of medical marijuana is as good, or better, than other medications that could be used for that individual patient.
5. A physician who is not the primary treating physician may still recommend medical marijuana for a patient’s symptoms. However, it is incumbent upon that physician to consult with the patient’s primary treating physician or obtain the appropriate patient records to confirm the patient’s underlying diagnosis and prior treatment history.
6. The initial examination for the condition for which medical marijuana is being recommended should be in-person.
7. Recommendations should be limited to the time necessary to appropriately monitor the patient. Periodic reviews should occur and be documented at least annually or more frequently as warranted.
8. If a physician recommends or approves the use of medical marijuana for a minor, the parents or legal guardians should be fully informed of the risks and benefits of such use and the parents consent to that use.
Physicians may wish to refer to CMA’s ON-CALL Document #1315 titled “The Compassionate Use Act of 1996”, updated annually for additional information and guidance. (http://www.cmanet.org/publicdoc.cfm/4)
Although the Compassionate Use Act allows the use of medical marijuana by a patient upon the recommendation or approval of a physician, California physicians should bear in mind that marijuana is listed in Schedule I of the federal Controlled Substance Act, which means that it has no accepted medical use under federal law. However, in Conant v. Walters (9th Cir.2002) F3d 629 the United States Court of Appeals recognized that physicians have a constitutionally-protected right to discuss with, and recommend to their patients all potentially beneficial treatments. Physicians could exceed the scope of this constitutional protection if they conspire with, or aid and abet, their patients in obtaining medical marijuana.
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS WHOLE TIME...Thank you, and have a nice day. 8)
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^^Who The Fuck Cares about the Medical Board Of California?? IT WILL STILL TRIGGER ACTION BY ANY FORM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! LMAO @ You thinking your right still!!! hahahahahahahahahaha!
Your the only one Arguing against Facts, There is no "LEGAL" Anything you idiot...Fuckin Spoiled Ass Retired Druggies, never get anything, your so fuckin stubborn, its becoming pathetic.
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^^Who The Fuck Cares about the Medical Board Of California?? IT WILL STILL TRIGGER ACTION BY ANY FORM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! LMAO @ You thinking your right still!!! hahahahahahahahahaha!
Your the only one Arguing against Facts, There is no "LEGAL" Anything you idiot...Fuckin Spoiled Ass Retired Druggies, never get anything, your so fuckin stubborn, its becoming pathetic.
Are you really this stupid? You got sonned, just shut the fuck up and admit you don't know what you're talking about. And no, not just any law enforcement can fuck with you, they gotta be feds...LEARN HOW TO READ AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND MORE...............
>>>>> http://sierra.uchastings.edu/cohen/marijuanaarticle.PDF
Knowledge is power!
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^^Who The Fuck Cares about the Medical Board Of California?? IT WILL STILL TRIGGER ACTION BY ANY FORM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! LMAO @ You thinking your right still!!! hahahahahahahahahaha!
Your the only one Arguing against Facts, There is no "LEGAL" Anything you idiot...Fuckin Spoiled Ass Retired Druggies, never get anything, your so fuckin stubborn, its becoming pathetic.
Are you really this stupid? You got sonned, just shut the fuck up and admit you don't know what you're talking about. And no, not just any law enforcement can fuck with you, they gotta be feds...LEARN HOW TO READ AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND MORE...............
>>>>> http://sierra.uchastings.edu/cohen/marijuanaarticle.PDF
Knowledge is power!
LAW ENFORCEMENT = ENFORCER OF LAW (not just state laws, not just local laws, ALL LAWS!!!)
LMAO!!!!!!! "ONLY FEDS"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
how sad little elior, how sad indeed!
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i think User is winning this one 8)
nice points, both of you guys
How is he winning if it's a FACT that you can get weed prescribed from a doctor LEGALLY? You're just mad cuz you got sonned in this very thread and you had no response...So now you're just riding his lame-ass arguments...When will you kids ever learn? 8)
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
and i'm not mad, i made this topic to hear what YOU guys had to say, i already have my opinion on this matter, therefore your response doesn't affect me one bit. My focus isn't on whether weed should be legalized or not because they're are good facts for both sides but to legalize all illegal drugs OR do something about these Tobacco companies who make billions and billions of dollars while killing their very consumers and then targeting children to regain those consumers who in the last year or so died from Lung Cancer, Stroke, Cardiovascular Disease or etc.
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
Lets Make it a story, since your not getting anything im telling you or are ignoring my posts because your a retarded stubborn ass.
Little Spoiled Ass Elior is driving around in his daddy's car smoking a blunt.
*Whoop*Whoop (Thats the sound of the police)
Elior Pulls Over, puts the blunt down next to him, Pulls out His License and registration
Cop Comes up
"Whoa, Hey Kid, What is that" Says the Cop
"It's Ok, I Have a Cannabis Card" Says little Elior
"Haha" Says the Cop "Step outta the vehicle"
Elior Steps out, Angry and throwing a fit
"But its legal because my friends have cannabis cards and its only a federal crime and you have to be an FBI Agent to Get at me for having weed because I have a Cannabis Card and it makes it legal. I know this, because Federal Law Overrides State law but the state law makes it legal, so the only way to get me is if your a fed."
Cops Laugh, Place Little Elior In Handcuffs, Look at his ID, And Laugh
"Why Are You Laughing?" Says Little Elior
"Your Name Is Elior, Thats a fruity ass name, sounds like a girl name" Says one of the cops
"Stop Laughing" Says Elior, "Im Gonna Tell My Dad, and you guys are going to get it" and he begins to cry
The cops stop
The Cop Then Begins to Read Elior His Rights
"WAIT, WHAT DID I DO! - ITS LEGAL!!!" Little Elior Screams out, Crying his little heart out
The Cop Then Explains to him What he is arresting him for:
You are being arrested For Unlawful Possesion of a controlled substance
Which states:
(b) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses not
more than 28.5 grams of marijuana, other than concentrated cannabis,
is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of not
more than one hundred dollars ($100). Notwithstanding other
provisions of law, if such person has been previously convicted three
or more times of an offense described in this subdivision during the
two-year period immediately preceding the date of commission of the
violation to be charged, the previous convictions shall also be
charged in the accusatory pleading and, if found to be true by the
jury upon a jury trial or by the court upon a court trial or if
admitted by the person, the provisions of Sections 1000.1 and 1000.2
of the Penal Code shall be applicable to him, and the court shall
divert and refer him for education, treatment, or rehabilitation,
without a court hearing or determination or the concurrence of the
district attorney, to an appropriate community program which will
accept him. If the person is so diverted and referred he shall not
be subject to the fine specified in this subdivision. If no
community program will accept him, the person shall be subject to the
fine specified in this subdivision. In any case in which a person
is arrested for a violation of this subdivision and does not demand
to be taken before a magistrate, such person shall be released by the
arresting officer upon presentation of satisfactory evidence of
identity and giving his written promise to appear in court, as
provided in Section 853.6 of the Penal Code, and shall not be
subjected to booking.
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
The Cops Laughs Again
Little Elior Crys as the cops search his vehicle and find his Baggies, Scale And More Weed.
They Book Him For Intent to sell weed, take him to the local jail, His Daddy goes and Bails him out, He Goes Home and Tells Dubcc His Story....
And the Rest is an endless cycle.
THE END
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^lol, wait who is Elior? lol what a gay name
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^Thats NIK's Real Name
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haha boy if thats how it really played out man what a bitchass story to tell
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
Lets Make it a story, since your not getting anything im telling you or are ignoring my posts because your a retarded stubborn ass.
Little Spoiled Ass Elior is driving around in his daddy's car smoking a blunt.
*Whoop*Whoop (Thats the sound of the police)
Elior Pulls Over, puts the blunt down next to him, Pulls out His License and registration
Cop Comes up
"Whoa, Hey Kid, What is that" Says the Cop
"It's Ok, I Have a Cannabis Card" Says little Elior
"Haha" Says the Cop "Step outta the vehicle"
Elior Steps out, Angry and throwing a fit
"But its legal because my friends have cannabis cards and its only a federal crime and you have to be an FBI Agent to Get at me for having weed because I have a Cannabis Card and it makes it legal. I know this, because Federal Law Overrides State law but the state law makes it legal, so the only way to get me is if your a fed."
Cops Laugh, Place Little Elior In Handcuffs, Look at his ID, And Laugh
"Why Are You Laughing?" Says Little Elior
"Your Name Is Elior, Thats a fruity ass name, sounds like a girl name" Says one of the cops
"Stop Laughing" Says Elior, "Im Gonna Tell My Dad, and you guys are going to get it" and he begins to cry
The cops stop
The Cop Then Begins to Read Elior His Rights
"WAIT, WHAT DID I DO! - ITS LEGAL!!!" Little Elior Screams out, Crying his little heart out
The Cop Then Explains to him What he is arresting him for:
You are being arrested For Unlawful Possesion of a controlled substance
Which states:
(b) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses not
more than 28.5 grams of marijuana, other than concentrated cannabis,
is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of not
more than one hundred dollars ($100). Notwithstanding other
provisions of law, if such person has been previously convicted three
or more times of an offense described in this subdivision during the
two-year period immediately preceding the date of commission of the
violation to be charged, the previous convictions shall also be
charged in the accusatory pleading and, if found to be true by the
jury upon a jury trial or by the court upon a court trial or if
admitted by the person, the provisions of Sections 1000.1 and 1000.2
of the Penal Code shall be applicable to him, and the court shall
divert and refer him for education, treatment, or rehabilitation,
without a court hearing or determination or the concurrence of the
district attorney, to an appropriate community program which will
accept him. If the person is so diverted and referred he shall not
be subject to the fine specified in this subdivision. If no
community program will accept him, the person shall be subject to the
fine specified in this subdivision. In any case in which a person
is arrested for a violation of this subdivision and does not demand
to be taken before a magistrate, such person shall be released by the
arresting officer upon presentation of satisfactory evidence of
identity and giving his written promise to appear in court, as
provided in Section 853.6 of the Penal Code, and shall not be
subjected to booking.
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
The Cops Laughs Again
Little Elior Crys as the cops search his vehicle and find his Baggies, Scale And More Weed.
They Book Him For Intent to sell weed, take him to the local jail, His Daddy goes and Bails him out, He Goes Home and Tells Dubcc His Story....
And the Rest is an endless cycle.
THE END
LMAO. You are pathetic, sitting there and writing up fictional stories about me. Sick shit. That is just very sad and I would go as far as considering whether you have a fascination with me. LOL. Elior is a Hebrew name, dickhead, you probably don't know how to pronounce it with your gay ass Mexican accent. Son, get off my nuts...Your story is impossible, STATE POLICE CANNOT GET YOU IN TROUBLE IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING STATE LAW. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE WAY TOO DUMB TOO UNDESTAND THIS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVE PROVIDEF NUMEROUS ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT. All that means now is that you're arguing facts, and any reply you make debating the subject is simply you sonning yourself over and over again...Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You are the ugly insecure retard who sits alone at parties. It only took one picture to understand what a loser you really are. The only reason you continue to reply is because you're fascinated with me and want to feel like you came out on top. Also, you never have the balls to argue with people in real life, because you know you're retarded...It's just sad, really. Take this as a pointer. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE, A.)Don't show them your picture first if you wanna be taken seriously...B.)Make sure you're not arguing FACTS...and C.)Gain knowledge...You are dumb. The end.
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
Lets Make it a story, since your not getting anything im telling you or are ignoring my posts because your a retarded stubborn ass.
Little Spoiled Ass Elior is driving around in his daddy's car smoking a blunt.
*Whoop*Whoop (Thats the sound of the police)
Elior Pulls Over, puts the blunt down next to him, Pulls out His License and registration
Cop Comes up
"Whoa, Hey Kid, What is that" Says the Cop
"It's Ok, I Have a Cannabis Card" Says little Elior
"Haha" Says the Cop "Step outta the vehicle"
Elior Steps out, Angry and throwing a fit
"But its legal because my friends have cannabis cards and its only a federal crime and you have to be an FBI Agent to Get at me for having weed because I have a Cannabis Card and it makes it legal. I know this, because Federal Law Overrides State law but the state law makes it legal, so the only way to get me is if your a fed."
Cops Laugh, Place Little Elior In Handcuffs, Look at his ID, And Laugh
"Why Are You Laughing?" Says Little Elior
"Your Name Is Elior, Thats a fruity ass name, sounds like a girl name" Says one of the cops
"Stop Laughing" Says Elior, "Im Gonna Tell My Dad, and you guys are going to get it" and he begins to cry
The cops stop
The Cop Then Begins to Read Elior His Rights
"WAIT, WHAT DID I DO! - ITS LEGAL!!!" Little Elior Screams out, Crying his little heart out
The Cop Then Explains to him What he is arresting him for:
You are being arrested For Unlawful Possesion of a controlled substance
Which states:
(b) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses not
more than 28.5 grams of marijuana, other than concentrated cannabis,
is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of not
more than one hundred dollars ($100). Notwithstanding other
provisions of law, if such person has been previously convicted three
or more times of an offense described in this subdivision during the
two-year period immediately preceding the date of commission of the
violation to be charged, the previous convictions shall also be
charged in the accusatory pleading and, if found to be true by the
jury upon a jury trial or by the court upon a court trial or if
admitted by the person, the provisions of Sections 1000.1 and 1000.2
of the Penal Code shall be applicable to him, and the court shall
divert and refer him for education, treatment, or rehabilitation,
without a court hearing or determination or the concurrence of the
district attorney, to an appropriate community program which will
accept him. If the person is so diverted and referred he shall not
be subject to the fine specified in this subdivision. If no
community program will accept him, the person shall be subject to the
fine specified in this subdivision. In any case in which a person
is arrested for a violation of this subdivision and does not demand
to be taken before a magistrate, such person shall be released by the
arresting officer upon presentation of satisfactory evidence of
identity and giving his written promise to appear in court, as
provided in Section 853.6 of the Penal Code, and shall not be
subjected to booking.
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
The Cops Laughs Again
Little Elior Crys as the cops search his vehicle and find his Baggies, Scale And More Weed.
They Book Him For Intent to sell weed, take him to the local jail, His Daddy goes and Bails him out, He Goes Home and Tells Dubcc His Story....
And the Rest is an endless cycle.
THE END
LMAO. You are pathetic, sitting there and writing up fictional stories about me. Sick shit. That is just very sad and I would go as far as considering whether you have a fascination with me. LOL. Elior is a Hebrew name, dickhead, you probably don't know how to pronounce it with your gay ass Mexican accent. Son, get off my nuts...Your story is impossible, STATE POLICE CANNOT GET YOU IN TROUBLE IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING STATE LAW. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE WAY TOO DUMB TOO UNDESTAND THIS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVE PROVIDEF NUMEROUS ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT. All that means now is that you're arguing facts, and any reply you make debating the subject is simply you sonning yourself over and over again...Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You are the ugly insecure retard who sits alone at parties. It only took one picture to understand what a loser you really are. The only reason you continue to reply is because you're fascinated with me and want to feel like you came out on top. Also, you never have the balls to argue with people in real life, because you know you're retarded...It's just sad, really. Take this as a pointer. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE, A.)Don't show them your picture first if you wanna be taken seriously...B.)Make sure you're not arguing FACTS...and C.)Gain knowledge...You are dumb. The end.
LMAO @ YOU STILL BELIEVING YOURSELF, With Fake ass proof from Pro Marijuana Propaganda Sites!!!!! Look In The Penal Code Books (Specifically PAGE 4 IN THE NEW EDITION, i have it at work, took a glimpse and boom, tuff actin tinactin - it was there, how if Federal Law Overrides State Law, It ABOLISHES That Law!!)
I dont know why you still keep arguing, Elior, What dont you get? THE LAW IS GONE! Why Would the Federal Government allow a State to Override any of its laws? What would be the purpose of having Federal laws then?
AND ROTFLMAO @ you hating on my appearance so much, Im A Fuckin Sexy Ass Mutha Fucka, I know you have my pic on your hard drive and everytime you look at it, you get mad because you look like Shreak, and you wish you were me. I dont know how the fuck you gotthat "I dont argue with people in real life" (I was on the debate team in high school, lol)
Thats how i know im the shit
Someone i dont even know, Hates me
I win, your name still sounds gay, You judge me on my appearance like a homo at a beauty pagent, And you still sound retarded and angry as hell
THE END (FOR REAL!)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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haha boy if thats how it really played out man what a bitchass story to tell
LOL. HELL NO...This stupid muthafucka actually took his time to make up a completely fictional story about me. :grumpy:
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haha boy if thats how it really played out man what a bitchass story to tell
LOL. HELL NO...This stupid muthafucka actually took his time to make up a completely fictional story about me. :grumpy:
No, Its based on A True Story:
GOT BUSTED...with weed, baggies, and a scale. (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76054.0)
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
Lets Make it a story, since your not getting anything im telling you or are ignoring my posts because your a retarded stubborn ass.
Little Spoiled Ass Elior is driving around in his daddy's car smoking a blunt.
*Whoop*Whoop (Thats the sound of the police)
Elior Pulls Over, puts the blunt down next to him, Pulls out His License and registration
Cop Comes up
"Whoa, Hey Kid, What is that" Says the Cop
"It's Ok, I Have a Cannabis Card" Says little Elior
"Haha" Says the Cop "Step outta the vehicle"
Elior Steps out, Angry and throwing a fit
"But its legal because my friends have cannabis cards and its only a federal crime and you have to be an FBI Agent to Get at me for having weed because I have a Cannabis Card and it makes it legal. I know this, because Federal Law Overrides State law but the state law makes it legal, so the only way to get me is if your a fed."
Cops Laugh, Place Little Elior In Handcuffs, Look at his ID, And Laugh
"Why Are You Laughing?" Says Little Elior
"Your Name Is Elior, Thats a fruity ass name, sounds like a girl name" Says one of the cops
"Stop Laughing" Says Elior, "Im Gonna Tell My Dad, and you guys are going to get it" and he begins to cry
The cops stop
The Cop Then Begins to Read Elior His Rights
"WAIT, WHAT DID I DO! - ITS LEGAL!!!" Little Elior Screams out, Crying his little heart out
The Cop Then Explains to him What he is arresting him for:
You are being arrested For Unlawful Possesion of a controlled substance
Which states:
(b) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses not
more than 28.5 grams of marijuana, other than concentrated cannabis,
is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of not
more than one hundred dollars ($100). Notwithstanding other
provisions of law, if such person has been previously convicted three
or more times of an offense described in this subdivision during the
two-year period immediately preceding the date of commission of the
violation to be charged, the previous convictions shall also be
charged in the accusatory pleading and, if found to be true by the
jury upon a jury trial or by the court upon a court trial or if
admitted by the person, the provisions of Sections 1000.1 and 1000.2
of the Penal Code shall be applicable to him, and the court shall
divert and refer him for education, treatment, or rehabilitation,
without a court hearing or determination or the concurrence of the
district attorney, to an appropriate community program which will
accept him. If the person is so diverted and referred he shall not
be subject to the fine specified in this subdivision. If no
community program will accept him, the person shall be subject to the
fine specified in this subdivision. In any case in which a person
is arrested for a violation of this subdivision and does not demand
to be taken before a magistrate, such person shall be released by the
arresting officer upon presentation of satisfactory evidence of
identity and giving his written promise to appear in court, as
provided in Section 853.6 of the Penal Code, and shall not be
subjected to booking.
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
The Cops Laughs Again
Little Elior Crys as the cops search his vehicle and find his Baggies, Scale And More Weed.
They Book Him For Intent to sell weed, take him to the local jail, His Daddy goes and Bails him out, He Goes Home and Tells Dubcc His Story....
And the Rest is an endless cycle.
THE END
LMAO. You are pathetic, sitting there and writing up fictional stories about me. Sick shit. That is just very sad and I would go as far as considering whether you have a fascination with me. LOL. Elior is a Hebrew name, dickhead, you probably don't know how to pronounce it with your gay ass Mexican accent. Son, get off my nuts...Your story is impossible, STATE POLICE CANNOT GET YOU IN TROUBLE IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING STATE LAW. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE WAY TOO DUMB TOO UNDESTAND THIS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVE PROVIDEF NUMEROUS ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT. All that means now is that you're arguing facts, and any reply you make debating the subject is simply you sonning yourself over and over again...Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You are the ugly insecure retard who sits alone at parties. It only took one picture to understand what a loser you really are. The only reason you continue to reply is because you're fascinated with me and want to feel like you came out on top. Also, you never have the balls to argue with people in real life, because you know you're retarded...It's just sad, really. Take this as a pointer. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE, A.)Don't show them your picture first if you wanna be taken seriously...B.)Make sure you're not arguing FACTS...and C.)Gain knowledge...You are dumb. The end.
LMAO @ YOU STILL BELIEVING YOURSELF, With Fake ass proof from Pro Marijuana Propaganda Sites!!!!! Look In The Penal Code Books (Specifically PAGE 4 IN THE NEW EDITION, i have it at work, took a glimpse and boom, tuff actin tinactin - it was there, how if Federal Law Overrides State Law, It ABOLISHES That Law!!)
I dont know why you still keep arguing, Elior, What dont you get? THE LAW IS GONE! Why Would the Federal Government allow a State to Override any of its laws? What would be the purpose of having Federal laws then?
AND ROTFLMAO @ you hating on my appearance so much, Im A Fuckin Sexy Ass Mutha Fucka, I know you have my pic on your hard drive and everytime you look at it, you get mad because you look like Shreak, and you wish you were me. I dont know how the fuck you gotthat "I dont argue with people in real life" (I was on the debate team in high school, lol)
Thats how i know im the shit
Someone i dont even know, Hates me
I win, your name still sounds gay, You judge me on my appearance like a homo at a beauty pagent, And you still sound retarded and angry as hell
THE END (FOR REAL!)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You are so fucking dumb man, I swear, there are no words for this shit anymore... I'm not arguing that federal law overrides state law, I know that, you dumb fucking idiot, I even mentioned it earlier...That's not what I'm trying to get through your deformed skull. I'm telling you that STATE authorities follow the STATE laws, moron, and that is supposed to be self-evident. If they wanted to make it a case, they'd have to take it to FEDERAL COURT, which I keep repeating...It's amazing how dumb someone can get, I swear. Have you even been in a fucking Cannabis Club or a Cannabis Clinic? Have you spoken to a doctor about prescription marijuana? You don't know shit, not only are you a retard, but you're an IGNORANT retard...That's the worst. DO YOU KNOW THAT NOT ALL STATE LAWS MATCH FEDERAL LAWS? No, you don't, and you still wouldn't even if I posted an article with proof, because you're a moron...None of the articles I posted were form pro-marijuan sites, they are all informative articles from credible sites about state laws...You wouldn't know that, because you obviously haven't read any of them, but I didn't expect you to. You don't have the brain for it...LOL@you wanting people to hate you. Who do you think you are?...Me? No one hates you, they just think you're one of the dumbest muthafuckaz they ever came across...I got 2 homies sitting over here reading your shit and laughing their asses off at the stupidity. And again, when you see a deformed creature, you know it's not right...VVV
(http://ourworld.cs.com/DEEEEzzzz%20NuTz/E-Krondon.JPG)
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haha boy if thats how it really played out man what a bitchass story to tell
LOL. HELL NO...This stupid muthafucka actually took his time to make up a completely fictional story about me. :grumpy:
No, Its based on A True Story:
GOT BUSTED...with weed, baggies, and a scale. (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76054.0)
Only a moron like you can find any sort of connection between those 2 stories...
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
Lets Make it a story, since your not getting anything im telling you or are ignoring my posts because your a retarded stubborn ass.
Little Spoiled Ass Elior is driving around in his daddy's car smoking a blunt.
*Whoop*Whoop (Thats the sound of the police)
Elior Pulls Over, puts the blunt down next to him, Pulls out His License and registration
Cop Comes up
"Whoa, Hey Kid, What is that" Says the Cop
"It's Ok, I Have a Cannabis Card" Says little Elior
"Haha" Says the Cop "Step outta the vehicle"
Elior Steps out, Angry and throwing a fit
"But its legal because my friends have cannabis cards and its only a federal crime and you have to be an FBI Agent to Get at me for having weed because I have a Cannabis Card and it makes it legal. I know this, because Federal Law Overrides State law but the state law makes it legal, so the only way to get me is if your a fed."
Cops Laugh, Place Little Elior In Handcuffs, Look at his ID, And Laugh
"Why Are You Laughing?" Says Little Elior
"Your Name Is Elior, Thats a fruity ass name, sounds like a girl name" Says one of the cops
"Stop Laughing" Says Elior, "Im Gonna Tell My Dad, and you guys are going to get it" and he begins to cry
The cops stop
The Cop Then Begins to Read Elior His Rights
"WAIT, WHAT DID I DO! - ITS LEGAL!!!" Little Elior Screams out, Crying his little heart out
The Cop Then Explains to him What he is arresting him for:
You are being arrested For Unlawful Possesion of a controlled substance
Which states:
(b) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses not
more than 28.5 grams of marijuana, other than concentrated cannabis,
is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of not
more than one hundred dollars ($100). Notwithstanding other
provisions of law, if such person has been previously convicted three
or more times of an offense described in this subdivision during the
two-year period immediately preceding the date of commission of the
violation to be charged, the previous convictions shall also be
charged in the accusatory pleading and, if found to be true by the
jury upon a jury trial or by the court upon a court trial or if
admitted by the person, the provisions of Sections 1000.1 and 1000.2
of the Penal Code shall be applicable to him, and the court shall
divert and refer him for education, treatment, or rehabilitation,
without a court hearing or determination or the concurrence of the
district attorney, to an appropriate community program which will
accept him. If the person is so diverted and referred he shall not
be subject to the fine specified in this subdivision. If no
community program will accept him, the person shall be subject to the
fine specified in this subdivision. In any case in which a person
is arrested for a violation of this subdivision and does not demand
to be taken before a magistrate, such person shall be released by the
arresting officer upon presentation of satisfactory evidence of
identity and giving his written promise to appear in court, as
provided in Section 853.6 of the Penal Code, and shall not be
subjected to booking.
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
The Cops Laughs Again
Little Elior Crys as the cops search his vehicle and find his Baggies, Scale And More Weed.
They Book Him For Intent to sell weed, take him to the local jail, His Daddy goes and Bails him out, He Goes Home and Tells Dubcc His Story....
And the Rest is an endless cycle.
THE END
LMAO. You are pathetic, sitting there and writing up fictional stories about me. Sick shit. That is just very sad and I would go as far as considering whether you have a fascination with me. LOL. Elior is a Hebrew name, dickhead, you probably don't know how to pronounce it with your gay ass Mexican accent. Son, get off my nuts...Your story is impossible, STATE POLICE CANNOT GET YOU IN TROUBLE IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING STATE LAW. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE WAY TOO DUMB TOO UNDESTAND THIS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVE PROVIDEF NUMEROUS ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT. All that means now is that you're arguing facts, and any reply you make debating the subject is simply you sonning yourself over and over again...Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You are the ugly insecure retard who sits alone at parties. It only took one picture to understand what a loser you really are. The only reason you continue to reply is because you're fascinated with me and want to feel like you came out on top. Also, you never have the balls to argue with people in real life, because you know you're retarded...It's just sad, really. Take this as a pointer. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE, A.)Don't show them your picture first if you wanna be taken seriously...B.)Make sure you're not arguing FACTS...and C.)Gain knowledge...You are dumb. The end.
LMAO @ YOU STILL BELIEVING YOURSELF, With Fake ass proof from Pro Marijuana Propaganda Sites!!!!! Look In The Penal Code Books (Specifically PAGE 4 IN THE NEW EDITION, i have it at work, took a glimpse and boom, tuff actin tinactin - it was there, how if Federal Law Overrides State Law, It ABOLISHES That Law!!)
I dont know why you still keep arguing, Elior, What dont you get? THE LAW IS GONE! Why Would the Federal Government allow a State to Override any of its laws? What would be the purpose of having Federal laws then?
AND ROTFLMAO @ you hating on my appearance so much, Im A Fuckin Sexy Ass Mutha Fucka, I know you have my pic on your hard drive and everytime you look at it, you get mad because you look like Shreak, and you wish you were me. I dont know how the fuck you gotthat "I dont argue with people in real life" (I was on the debate team in high school, lol)
Thats how i know im the shit
Someone i dont even know, Hates me
I win, your name still sounds gay, You judge me on my appearance like a homo at a beauty pagent, And you still sound retarded and angry as hell
THE END (FOR REAL!)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You are so fucking dumb man, I swear, there are no words for this shit anymore... I'm not arguing that federal law overrides state law, I know that, you dumb fucking idiot, I even mentioned it earlier...That's not what I'm trying to get through your deformed skull. I'm telling you that STATE authorities follow the STATE laws, moron, and that is supposed to be self-evident. If they wanted to make it a case, they'd have to take it to FEDERAL COURT, which I keep repeating...It's amazing how dumb someone can get, I swear. Have you even been in a fucking Cannabis Club or a Cannabis Clinic? Have you spoken to a doctor about prescription marijuana? You don't know shit, not only are you a retard, but you're an IGNORANT retard...That's the worst. DO YOU KNOW THAT NOT ALL STATE LAWS MATCH FEDERAL LAWS? No, you don't, and you still wouldn't even if I posted an article with proof, because you're a moron...None of the articles I posted were form pro-marijuan sites, they are all informative articles from credible sites about state laws...You wouldn't know that, because you obviously haven't read any of them, but I didn't expect you to. You don't have the brain for it...LOL@you wanting people to hate you. Who do you think you are?...Me? No one hates you, they just think you're one of the dumbest muthafuckaz they ever came across...I got 2 homies sitting over here reading your shit and laughing their asses off at the stupidity. And again, when you see a deformed creature, you know it's not right...
WOW, i swear, your parents must hate your guts, such a stubborn ass little brat like you, who doesnt listen to reason
Read the Story, IT WILL NOT GO TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE THEY (as in the Po-Po's) WILL CHARGE YOU FOR A STATE CRIME!!!!
You See Little Elior, Because The Federal Government's Law On Marijuana ABOLISHES California's Previous Law On Medical Marijuana (Which Means Little Elior That The Law Does NOT EXIST ANYMORE) They (As in the Po-Po's) Can Charge You (And 99% of the time i bet they will) For a STATE OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
What Are you not getting?
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DO YOU KNOW THAT NOT ALL STATE LAWS MATCH FEDERAL LAWS?
So you still Think State Laws Can Override Federal Laws? You think that State Police will Follow STATE Laws before FEDERAL LAWS? Honestly, What the fuck are you smoking?
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dude i agreed that both of you have very good facts but even though it's Legal to have prescribed weed from a doctor for medical purposes, it doesn't really make weed 100% legal does it? because you can still be convicted from it.
The thing is, he's too stupid to understand that it's legal to get it prescribed from a doctor, even after I posted all those articles and links. That's why I didn't even wanna bother doing it...See his last reply? He still thinks medical marijuana is outlawed in every state, because a.)he can't read b.)he has no sort of understaning as to how state and federal laws operate c.)he's undisputedly the dumbest guy on WCC...He obviously didn't take Government in high school, because this idiot has no idea what's going on around him regarding Californias state on medical marijuana laws...It's actually pretty sad when you start thinking about it...
Dude, are you seriously ignoring everything i have posted? you just post some bullshit about how MEDICAL BOARDS will not do anything if you get prescribed Marijuana, HOW IS THAT PROVING THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS LEGAL? Just Because your friends say its true does not mean its true. There is no Such thing as a "LEGAL" Cannabis Card. Your friends might have recieved it from a doctor, but it does not make it legal. Man,
why am i beginning to repeat myself? shit, nothing goes thru with you, its sad....your too stubborn, you have no argument, all you do is complain, you cannot make a valid point at all, and you think you made a point, but all you have done is thrown a insult. Im done with you. I feel like your parents, Dealing with a lost cause.
^^LMFAO@This moron playing himself. Arguing over something that is a fact. Pathetic. Ask your pops to read the articles for you, they do explain that Medical Marijuana IS in fact legal according to California law and that they can't get you in trouble unless they take you to federal court, which is a waste of time for them when they're dealing with a bullshit WEED charge. Oh, wait a minute... I am your pops. Son. ...You would be brainwashed, only you don't have a brain. You're simply an idiot... :-*
So wait, according to your logic, since they would not "Waste their time dealing with a bullshit weed charge" (which is a stupid thing to think anyway, but hey, its you) then that makes it legal?? LMAO!!! Dude, This thing has gone in circles, Face Facts...You've been sonned again, Let me add this one to the list!
IT IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA LAW, MORON!! FEDERAL LAW OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO A FEDERAL COURT TO MAKE IT A CASE. USUALLY MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS DONT GET TAKEN TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG/COSTLY PROCESS...WHAT DONT YOU GET?!!?!?! YOU ARE A MORON. THIS IS SHIT THEY TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL... :-X
Lets Make it a story, since your not getting anything im telling you or are ignoring my posts because your a retarded stubborn ass.
Little Spoiled Ass Elior is driving around in his daddy's car smoking a blunt.
*Whoop*Whoop (Thats the sound of the police)
Elior Pulls Over, puts the blunt down next to him, Pulls out His License and registration
Cop Comes up
"Whoa, Hey Kid, What is that" Says the Cop
"It's Ok, I Have a Cannabis Card" Says little Elior
"Haha" Says the Cop "Step outta the vehicle"
Elior Steps out, Angry and throwing a fit
"But its legal because my friends have cannabis cards and its only a federal crime and you have to be an FBI Agent to Get at me for having weed because I have a Cannabis Card and it makes it legal. I know this, because Federal Law Overrides State law but the state law makes it legal, so the only way to get me is if your a fed."
Cops Laugh, Place Little Elior In Handcuffs, Look at his ID, And Laugh
"Why Are You Laughing?" Says Little Elior
"Your Name Is Elior, Thats a fruity ass name, sounds like a girl name" Says one of the cops
"Stop Laughing" Says Elior, "Im Gonna Tell My Dad, and you guys are going to get it" and he begins to cry
The cops stop
The Cop Then Begins to Read Elior His Rights
"WAIT, WHAT DID I DO! - ITS LEGAL!!!" Little Elior Screams out, Crying his little heart out
The Cop Then Explains to him What he is arresting him for:
You are being arrested For Unlawful Possesion of a controlled substance
Which states:
(b) Except as authorized by law, every person who possesses not
more than 28.5 grams of marijuana, other than concentrated cannabis,
is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine of not
more than one hundred dollars ($100). Notwithstanding other
provisions of law, if such person has been previously convicted three
or more times of an offense described in this subdivision during the
two-year period immediately preceding the date of commission of the
violation to be charged, the previous convictions shall also be
charged in the accusatory pleading and, if found to be true by the
jury upon a jury trial or by the court upon a court trial or if
admitted by the person, the provisions of Sections 1000.1 and 1000.2
of the Penal Code shall be applicable to him, and the court shall
divert and refer him for education, treatment, or rehabilitation,
without a court hearing or determination or the concurrence of the
district attorney, to an appropriate community program which will
accept him. If the person is so diverted and referred he shall not
be subject to the fine specified in this subdivision. If no
community program will accept him, the person shall be subject to the
fine specified in this subdivision. In any case in which a person
is arrested for a violation of this subdivision and does not demand
to be taken before a magistrate, such person shall be released by the
arresting officer upon presentation of satisfactory evidence of
identity and giving his written promise to appear in court, as
provided in Section 853.6 of the Penal Code, and shall not be
subjected to booking.
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
The Cops Laughs Again
Little Elior Crys as the cops search his vehicle and find his Baggies, Scale And More Weed.
They Book Him For Intent to sell weed, take him to the local jail, His Daddy goes and Bails him out, He Goes Home and Tells Dubcc His Story....
And the Rest is an endless cycle.
THE END
LMAO. You are pathetic, sitting there and writing up fictional stories about me. Sick shit. That is just very sad and I would go as far as considering whether you have a fascination with me. LOL. Elior is a Hebrew name, dickhead, you probably don't know how to pronounce it with your gay ass Mexican accent. Son, get off my nuts...Your story is impossible, STATE POLICE CANNOT GET YOU IN TROUBLE IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING STATE LAW. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE WAY TOO DUMB TOO UNDESTAND THIS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVE PROVIDEF NUMEROUS ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT. All that means now is that you're arguing facts, and any reply you make debating the subject is simply you sonning yourself over and over again...Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You are the ugly insecure retard who sits alone at parties. It only took one picture to understand what a loser you really are. The only reason you continue to reply is because you're fascinated with me and want to feel like you came out on top. Also, you never have the balls to argue with people in real life, because you know you're retarded...It's just sad, really. Take this as a pointer. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE, A.)Don't show them your picture first if you wanna be taken seriously...B.)Make sure you're not arguing FACTS...and C.)Gain knowledge...You are dumb. The end.
LMAO @ YOU STILL BELIEVING YOURSELF, With Fake ass proof from Pro Marijuana Propaganda Sites!!!!! Look In The Penal Code Books (Specifically PAGE 4 IN THE NEW EDITION, i have it at work, took a glimpse and boom, tuff actin tinactin - it was there, how if Federal Law Overrides State Law, It ABOLISHES That Law!!)
I dont know why you still keep arguing, Elior, What dont you get? THE LAW IS GONE! Why Would the Federal Government allow a State to Override any of its laws? What would be the purpose of having Federal laws then?
AND ROTFLMAO @ you hating on my appearance so much, Im A Fuckin Sexy Ass Mutha Fucka, I know you have my pic on your hard drive and everytime you look at it, you get mad because you look like Shreak, and you wish you were me. I dont know how the fuck you gotthat "I dont argue with people in real life" (I was on the debate team in high school, lol)
Thats how i know im the shit
Someone i dont even know, Hates me
I win, your name still sounds gay, You judge me on my appearance like a homo at a beauty pagent, And you still sound retarded and angry as hell
THE END (FOR REAL!)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You are so fucking dumb man, I swear, there are no words for this shit anymore... I'm not arguing that federal law overrides state law, I know that, you dumb fucking idiot, I even mentioned it earlier...That's not what I'm trying to get through your deformed skull. I'm telling you that STATE authorities follow the STATE laws, moron, and that is supposed to be self-evident. If they wanted to make it a case, they'd have to take it to FEDERAL COURT, which I keep repeating...It's amazing how dumb someone can get, I swear. Have you even been in a fucking Cannabis Club or a Cannabis Clinic? Have you spoken to a doctor about prescription marijuana? You don't know shit, not only are you a retard, but you're an IGNORANT retard...That's the worst. DO YOU KNOW THAT NOT ALL STATE LAWS MATCH FEDERAL LAWS? No, you don't, and you still wouldn't even if I posted an article with proof, because you're a moron...None of the articles I posted were form pro-marijuan sites, they are all informative articles from credible sites about state laws...You wouldn't know that, because you obviously haven't read any of them, but I didn't expect you to. You don't have the brain for it...LOL@you wanting people to hate you. Who do you think you are?...Me? No one hates you, they just think you're one of the dumbest muthafuckaz they ever came across...I got 2 homies sitting over here reading your shit and laughing their asses off at the stupidity. And again, when you see a deformed creature, you know it's not right...
WOW, i swear, your parents must hate your guts, such a stubborn ass little brat like you, who doesnt listen to reason
Read the Story, IT WILL NOT GO TO FEDERAL COURT BECAUSE THEY (as in the Po-Po's) WILL CHARGE YOU FOR A STATE CRIME!!!!
You See Little Elior, Because The Federal Government's Law On Marijuana ABOLISHES California's Previous Law On Medical Marijuana (Which Means Little Elior That The Law Does NOT EXIST ANYMORE) They (As in the Po-Po's) Can Charge You (And 99% of the time i bet they will) For a STATE OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
What Are you not getting?
RETARD. Let me break it down for you some more, since you're too fucking stupid to read the articles. The federal law on marijuana passed BEFORE the state law...NO LAW GOT ABOLISHED, FEDERAL LAW SIMPLY OVERRIDES CALIFORNIA LAW, THAT'S IT. Our state authortities enforce based upon state laws...If the government really wanted to make a case of it, they'd have to take you to a FEDERAL COURT. The few times that this actually has happened it's been made into a huge nationwide story. Don't you remember about a year ago when some cancer patient got fucked with federally for having plants, and it was all over the news? Of course not, you're too dumb to keep up with what's going on in our society. Obviously, I keep repeating myself and the links I posted, but it hasn't got to you for some strange reason. Well, the reason isn't really strange, it's that you're dumber than anyone in existance. And stop calling me "little Elior", because I'm 6'5" and will stomp on you with your gay ass fascinations... :-X
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^WOW!! hahahahahahahaha!!
So Please tell me, Why would State officials ignore laws that "Override" their laws? Why would they not enforce them if the federal laws have more signifigance and overall importance? Dude, your walking yourself in circles, i really have grown bored of this so called "argument" your having, when you make no sense. Please, ask a Lawyer, A COP (See if they Enforce FEDERAL LAW, lol) A Teacher, somebody....
Lets look at the definition of "OVERRIDE"
1 : to ride over or across : TRAMPLE
2 : to ride (as a horse) too much or too hard
3 a : to prevail over : DOMINATE b : to set aside : ANNUL <override a veto> c : to neutralize the action of (as an automatic control)
Sonned, Owned, Whatever - There you have it - Federal Law OVERRIDES AND PREVAILS OVER ALL LAW, NO STATE LAW CAN BE IN EXISTANCE BECAUSE THAT LAW IS DOMINATED, SET ASIDE, VETO'd!!!!!! GET IT YET?? Jeez, i swear, I bet a class of Retards would have got this the first time.
Because the law is dominated, it is No longer Valid, so They Can legally charge you for posession under california law. They CAN Charge you for a federal offense, but this way is so much easier. THE END!!! (PM me if you have a legit argument, because all you say is some garbage, and ive grown bored with this already)
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LMAO @ you little Elior, Trying to act hard over the computer, I will Smash you....I must have really have gotten to you because you are already wanted to fight me because of some internet shit. LMAO!!
Thats how You know your the shit!!!
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^WOW!! hahahahahahahaha!!
So Please tell me, Why would State officials ignore laws that "Override" their laws? Why would they not enforce them if the federal laws have more signifigance and overall importance? Dude, your walking yourself in circles, i really have grown bored of this so called "argument" your having, when you make no sense. Please, ask a Lawyer, A COP (See if they Enforce FEDERAL LAW, lol) A Teacher, somebody....
Lets look at the definition of "OVERRIDE"
1 : to ride over or across : TRAMPLE
2 : to ride (as a horse) too much or too hard
3 a : to prevail over : DOMINATE b : to set aside : ANNUL <override a veto> c : to neutralize the action of (as an automatic control)
Sonned, Owned, Whatever - There you have it - Federal Law OVERRIDES AND PREVAILS OVER ALL LAW, NO STATE LAW CAN BE IN EXISTANCE BECAUSE THAT LAW IS DOMINATED, SET ASIDE, VETO'd!!!!!! GET IT YET?? Jeez, i swear, I bet a class of Retards would have got this the first time.
Because the law is dominated, it is No longer Valid, so They Can legally charge you for posession under california law. They CAN Charge you for a federal offense, but this way is so much easier. THE END!!! (PM me if you have a legit argument, because all you say is some garbage, and ive grown bored with this already)
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LMAO @ you little Elior, Trying to act hard over the computer, I will Smash you....I must have really have gotten to you because you are already wanted to fight me because of some internet shit. LMAO!!
Thats how You know your the shit!!!
Dude. You're simply too stupid to understand what points people make...LOL. And it's funny to see you worked up trying to express your baseless and moronic logic. I honestly think you are retarded. Why would there be STATE laws if every state just went according to FEDERAL laws? State enforcement enforces state laws. Officers in NEW YORK enforce the NEW YORK laws...Officers in TEXAS enforce the TEXAS laws...Officers in CALIFORNIA enfore CALIFORNIA laws...I dunno how much simpler I can make it...And LMFAO@posting the definition of override...That's not the argument, idiot, everyone knows the definition of override, they're not as slow as you...Federal Law overrides State Law FEDERALLY...Do you not get it? I'm trying to make at as simple as I can for you. Why would they have passed the California Medicial Marijuan Law in 1996 if the Federal Law already stated that marijuana was a class b drug, which are illegal to posess? Think about that one, not that you know how to think, but at least try...On top of that, I've "asked" lawyers, cops, and have discussed this topic in classrooms with teachers...So what the fuck are you saying? You probably still think spelling and grammar is the same thing...LOL. You're just slow, there's nothing I can do to change it. And I don't want to "fight" you, though I would LOVE for you to call me "little Elior" in real life (ask Doggy 'bout that one)... :-*
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SweetHomeNews.com (OR)
-DEA Seizes Marijuana Plants from Medical Permit Holder-
A Linn County man announced he was going to sue the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and the Valley Interagency Narcotics Team after a federal agent seized plants from his state-licensed marijuana garden.
Leroy Stubblefield, 52, of 38785 Mountain Home Dr., between Sweet Home and Lebanon, is the first person to have the federal government seize state-licensed marijuana, according to the Portland-based Hemp and Cannabis Foundation.
DEA Assistant Special Agent Kenny Magee said it was not the first time the DEA has seized marijuana from persons with medical marijuana cards.
Stubblefield, a quadriplegic, and two of his caregivers, Scotty Russell and Clarence VanDehay have medical marijuana permits, which cost $150 each.
They are permitted up to 21 plants under state law. DEA Special Agent Michael Spasaro seized the 12 plants they had growing in a room in the basement.
On Sept. 23, at about noon, "I was still in bed about to get up," Stubblefield said. He normally sleeps late. "I heard the guys pull into the driveway."
Russell answered two officers, one identifying himself as a VALIANT officer, at the door and took them to talk to Stubblefield.
They said they received a tip that Stubblefield was growing 100 marijuana plants, Stubblefield said. They asked if they could see the plants.
"I told Scotty, go ahead and show them the plants," Stubblefield said. After Russell took the officers downstairs to the garden, he heard raised voices.
"Scotty came upstairs totally outraged and said they're going to take our plants," Stubblefield said. After he calmed Russell down, one of the two officers entered Stubblefield's bedroom and identified himself as DEA Special Agent Michael Spasaro. He told Stubblefield he would be seizing the plants.
"He said we can do one of two things," Stubblefield said. "First, you're breaking federal law. It's against federal law ... and federal law overrides state law. One, we could take the plants and leave, or second, we can go and get a search warrant and come back."
If they returned with a search warrant, Stubblefield said, his home and lights could have been seized.
Stubblefield said he chose the first option, to give up the plants.
"I was totally dumbfounded," Stubblefield said. "I obviously told him take the plants. I was raised a law-abiding citizen. You give the law respect; it's a two-way street.... Scotty pulled all the plants for him and carried them out. We knew we were being violated.... We had a dirty taste in our mouths."
The VALIANT officers declined to seize the marijuana based on state law, Stubblefield said.
"It's federal law," Magee said. "To make a long story short, basically, the DEA is charged with enforcing federal law. It's nothing new. It's federal law and it's policy and the DEA is is required by federal law (to enforce the law). When congress changes that federal law, then we'll abide by whatever the law is changed to.… The whole message to be delivered here: It's federal law."
It is a federal law created and voted on by the citizens of the United States, Magee said. "The merits they work on deal a lot with the practices of the medical community and whether they view it (marijuana for example) as legitimate or not. With that being said, the DEA itself consistently recommends that studies be done on substances that may have medical use.… The medical community does allow a form of marijuana for pharmaceutical use. That is Marinol."
There are alternative medications available, Magee said. Legitimate medical associations, such as the American Medical Association, have not condoned the use of marijuana for medical purposes.
Stubblefield, Russell and VanDehay have not been charged for breaking federal law.
"Any investigation, we do," Magee said. Decisions on charges are handled by federal attorneys. In this case, it appears the offense did not reach the threshold for charges.
"We pay $150 per year for our protection," Russell said. "That VALIANT guy didn't do his job by telling him, no you can't take the plants. We're allowed the plants. For a federal agent to come in and take our plants ... I feel he robbed us, raped us.
"We the voters elected that to become law," Stubblefield said. On top of that, the federal government is fighting Oregon's assisted suicide law, which was approved twice by voters. "What does that say when the federal government says you can't do that. What's it going to take to get the government to listen to what we're saying?"
Paul Stanford of the Hemp and Cannabis Foundation, last week, contacted Russell for an unrelated reason. Russell related the story about the seizure to him.
"The next day, he came up and brought us some good smoke to help get by," Russell said. He also brought seven immature plants with him. They are about two to two and a half months from harvest.
Most of the seized plants were about a month from harvest. One was blooming, and one was curing.
Stubblefield said he uses marijuana to help his sleep apnea and post-traumatic stress syndrome. He was paralyzed in an automobile accident the day he returned from a tour of duty in Vietnam with the Coast Guard. He had another major automobile accident in 1997, and smoking marijuana helps reduce other medications he must take. He is more coherent on marijuana than on methadone, for example. He smoked marijuana occasionally from about 1978 to 1986 before using it under Oregon Medical Marijuana Act approved by voters in 1998.
Russell said he uses marijuana to help with his carpal tunnel. It helps keep the spasms down. Russell has smoked marijuana since he 15 or 16 years old.
Stubblefield has not filed suit yet. He plans to sue for the value of the lost plants and for mental damages.
Do you see? The guy had 100 plants, and the FEDERAL government had to come...Not only that, but the guy didn't even get in trouble, they simply seized his plants...Now say some more dumb shit for us to laugh at... :-X
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How 'bout some more, you dumb piece of shit...
-Medical Pot User Accuses Feds Of Overstepping Authority-
Associated Press; April 1, 2004
A Colorado man has asked a judge to order the return of marijuana seized from him last year, the latest salvo in a high-profile clash of state and federal law over the use of pot to ease medical symptoms.
A federal drug task force seized the marijuana from Hayden resident Don Nord, 57, in October. Routt County Judge James Garrecht ordered the officers to return the marijuana and found them in contempt when they refused.
The case was taken to federal court in Denver. Officials with the Drug Enforcement Agency have said they had no intention of returning the drug.
While marijuana is illegal under federal law, state law allows the infirm to grow or smoke marijuana with a doctor's recommendation. Nord, who said he suffers from cancer and diabetes, has a state certificate to use the drug.
Nord's attorney, Kristopher Hammond, filed a motion Monday that says the government would be overstepping its bounds if allowed to keep the marijuana.
"Then Congress would be authorizing the federal government to reach into the state's administration of its laws, the private and personal decisions of sick and dying patients, their relationships with their physicians, and their compliance with a valid state law," he wrote.
The U.S. Attorney's Office has argued that federal law overrides state law when the two are in conflict.
Asked whether he thought the case could go to the U.S. Supreme Court, Hammond replied, "If neither side runs out of gas, it probably will."
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Where are you? LMFAO...This is hilarious. Fuckin' pussy got told and has nothing to say...
^^Actually i was talking about the "Legalizing weed" thread
I bet you feel stupid as hell now
And NOW im done
The End
^^Yes. And I was talking about THAT thread...Why would you not reply to this thread just so "it won't keep going", yet you kept replying to the other thread? A classic sonning. Krondon's bridge is falling down... 8)
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@user....I don't understand what you don't get about what he's saying. State cops don't deal with anything federal. So if a cop is arresting you for weed, he's acting upon a state law that states Marijuana is illegal. He doesn't have federal powers, so you will get tried in state court, not federal. Now if your state's laws permit Medical users with Cannabis cards to smoke weed legally, then a state cop will abide that, he has to. The only way you can get fucked with is if FBI shows up at your doorstep for a cannabis card. That's not likely ofcourse, I'd rather bet on a lotto ticket before that happens. This is simple shit, you got useless paragraphs of proving nothin because you're assuming the way it works when you haven't experienced it in the field first hand.
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@user....I don't understand what you don't get about what he's saying. State cops don't deal with anything federal. So if a cop is arresting you for weed, he's acting upon a state law that states Marijuana is illegal. He doesn't have federal powers, so you will get tried in state court, not federal. Now if your state's laws permit Medical users with Cannabis cards to smoke weed legally, then a state cop will abide that, he has to. The only way you can get fucked with is if FBI shows up at your doorstep for a cannabis card. That's not likely ofcourse, I'd rather bet on a lotto ticket before that happens. This is simple shit, you got useless paragraphs of proving nothin because you're assuming the way it works when you haven't experienced it in the field first hand.
and there you go
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my friend has a Cannibus Card for down in Hollywood.... he's been caught with shit in his ride before and the cops let him go
as crazy as it sounds it happens
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WOW, did you even read what I said?
Please, read my story on elior.
Or just read the most important part:
(Here's The Important Fault where you should be reading very carefully)
The Cop Then Says:
"Yes, There was a state law that legalized Medical Marijuana, But There is a Federal Law that Overrides that Law, MAKING IT ABOLISHED AND OBSOLETE!!!! Which Means that, It's Non Existant, and Therefor, You Are Illegally In Posession of a Controlled Substance which By California Law, Is A misdemeanor. Just Because you hold a Cannabis Card does not Make It Legal, Because THE LAW IS GONE!!!!!"
Don't You Get It? They ARE acting On STATE law, But Only Because The Federal Law OVERRIDES a Previous State Law that legalizes medical marijuana. So they get you on the State statute.
I once wanted to be a cop, in my administration of justice class we had a whole class dedicated to this kinda stuff, how to add different offenses and wobblers to already existing offenses, and how they all work, and This was one of the things discussed, people saying they have a prescription to Marajuana.
I really dont know whats so hard to get....Jeez, lol
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my friend has a Cannibus Card for down in Hollywood.... he's been caught with shit in his ride before and the cops let him go
as crazy as it sounds it happens
I dont doubt it prob. happened, a lot of cops are dumbasses, One of the reasons I dont want to be a cop anymore, and all the corrupt shit i saw them do when i went to a ride along.
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Won't you guys shut up already? I'd close this thread if it wasn't obvious that this would only start some beef between you 2 in another one ::)
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Won't you guys shut up already? I'd close this thread if it wasn't obvious that this would only start some beef between you 2 in another one ::)
LMFAO!!! There's no more argument man, this retard just straight up got shitted on...He had nothing to begin with. Even Rod, who hates on me like no other, came up in here to tell him that his paragraphs are useless and prove nothing other than his stupidity...What I was saying was very simple to begin with AND I provided proof to back my shit up...He just kept making dumb post after dumb post...It's hilarious. You might as well just lock this and save him any more embarassment...
And one for the money...
8)
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i have this on the side of my car
http://www.xpressmart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=W&Product_Code=2882&Category_Code=406