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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: ChinBo37 on May 18, 2006, 10:49:38 PM
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It seems like every time he is on a hook he just makes it a hot track.
I am bumping this "ride out" - TruLife and Akon from DJ_Green_Lantern_And_DJ_Kay_Slay-On_My_New_York_Shit
This shit is fire!
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Well the fact he is from Senegal kind of dis-proves his east coast status .........
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Maybe the east coast Dannyboy, but he ain't touchin' Nate.
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uh yea I know he isnt from the East coast but he fucks with a lot of NY rappers it seems
has a nice flow, different which is why it reminds me of nate's (not that they sound alike)
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the difference between them is that Nate doesn't sound like nails on a chalkboard
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he lived in jersey since he was a kid so im pretty sure he should be considered east coast...
but his hooks aint even seeing nate dogg in any type of way ever... it aint even seeing butch cassidy
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yeah butch and nate are the only 2 who can make songs a succes with just a single hook, nobody touching them, and certainly not akon, his voice is irritating... :-X
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The whole "ft. Akon" is quickly getting played out. I'll listen to him, it just seems redundant hearing him on all these songs. Rap niggas are so desperate for hits that if somebody blows up, everybody and their fuckin dog has to quickly do a track with that person to try to milk it for all its worth. The result is oversaturation and it becomes ordinary.
As for your comparison, he has been the go to guy for hooks lately. But he's not touching Nate.
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Akon aint seeing nate,butch or kokane in my opinion. I like the track he has with obie trice tho
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Agreed. Akon is great and his hooks >> Nates hooks in the last 2 years
Cant wait for his new album!
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he has a lot of work to do to live up to the name of "The Nate Dogg of the East"
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I hope not, because Akon has the most annoying voice I've ever heard. Jeezy's "Soul Survivor" would have been an excellent song if not for that muh'fucka. How this cat blew up is still beyond me.
Nate, on the other hand, has been falling off for years.
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Akon iz nice but imo Nate will alwayz be tha king of hookz... East or West...
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who was the old east coast nate dogg??
peace
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akon voice is pretty fuckin wack if you ask me.
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akon voice is pretty fuckin wack if you ask me.
Good thing nobody did.
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I'm with you. Akon is fuckin' with Nate Dogg when it comes to hooks. Dude is rarely missing (like Nate as of late). Plus, Akon's albums are 10 times better, as he can hold an album himself and not need a bunch of rappers to make it decent at best.
Akon's hook on Snitch = Hook of the year so far.
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i'm surprised so many of you dislike akon, i think hes dope! i thought he made that young jeezy track what it was. i wouldn't compare him to nate really but he's got potential IMO.
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i'm surprised so many of you dislike akon, i think hes dope! i thought he made that young jeezy track what it was. i wouldn't compare him to nate really but he's got potential IMO.
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how can you hate on the man? his hooks are dope, his cds are dope, he brings other dope artist in the spotlight (like T-pain) and his voice aint irritating. I love his music. SPECIALLY GHETTO.
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Agreed. Akon is great and his hooks >> Nates hooks in the last 2 years
i'm surprised so many of you dislike akon, i think hes dope! i thought he made that young jeezy track what it was. i wouldn't compare him to nate really but he's got potential IMO.
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Could anyone hook me up with that Tru Life ft. Akon track?
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here is that track if anyone hasnt heard it
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=11CF24627D5EEFB9
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^^^^Props!
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LMAO. Akon sucks ass...He sounds like a nasal bitch getting fucked.
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Akon is nice,can sumone post more tracks by him???
anyone got that song thats from Fight Night Round 3 it goes like "yall kno u like my swagger,no strap when i come through"
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First of all, Akon is a better solo artist than a 'hook artist'. Sometimes his voice annoys me cause he doesn't have a wide range. I keep checking for him because he can have such dope hooks, like on "Snitch". One thing about Akon though... I don't think he's heard of the term over exposure yet :-\
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akon is overhyped
and to the person who said nate hasnt had a great hook in the last 2 years, you should check Black Mercedes by DJ Quik or Shake That Ass by Eminem, on both songs nate is the one that makes the song a succes....and theres lot more tracks to name, im just 2 lazy ;)
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akon is overhyped
and to the person who said nate hasnt had a great hook in the last 2 years, you should check Black Mercedes by DJ Quik or Shake That Ass by Eminem, on both songs nate is the one that makes the song a succes....and theres lot more tracks to name, im just 2 lazy ;)
yeh the shake that ass hook is one of his better ones recently....
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Black Mercedes was decent at best. Shake that Ass was HORRIBLE.
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wtf
you nuts...those are def some of the best nate dogg hooks recently...
and even tho you think theyre not good, theyre still better than akon hooks
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i'm surprised so many of you dislike akon, i think hes dope! i thought he made that young jeezy track what it was. i wouldn't compare him to nate really but he's got potential IMO.
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wtf
you nuts...those are def some of the best nate dogg hooks recently...
and even tho you think theyre not good, theyre still better than akon hooks
Soul Survivor, Snitch, Can You Believe It (That Styles P Track) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Those Nate Dogg Hooks. Serious... Nate is getting played out.
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wtf
you nuts...those are def some of the best nate dogg hooks recently...
and even tho you think theyre not good, theyre still better than akon hooks
Soul Survivor, Snitch, Can You Believe It (That Styles P Track) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Those Nate Dogg Hooks. Serious... Nate is getting played out.
LOLLLLL! Nate Dogg could burn his voice box on a grill and he'd still sound better than Akon....
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i like 'em both... they got very different singing-styles.
Akon could never do what Nate did on tracks like Aint No Fun, Regulate, These Days, Oh No etc.
Nate Dogg couldn't have done a hook like Soul Survivor or Snitch.
i most definatley prefer Nate Dogg on all levels tho... G Funk Classics Vol 1 shits all over Akon's album, Nate's best hooks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Akon's best hooks, Nate's best solo-songs>>>>>>>>>>> Akon's best solo-songs
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This is West Coast Connection, of course you know who's going to get the most love. I still stand by what I said. And, Nate's best solo records <<<<< Ghetto.
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wtf
you nuts...those are def some of the best nate dogg hooks recently...
and even tho you think theyre not good, theyre still better than akon hooks
Soul Survivor, Snitch, Can You Believe It (That Styles P Track) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Those Nate Dogg Hooks. Serious... Nate is getting played out.
LOLLLLL! Nate Dogg could burn his voice box on a grill and he'd still sound better than Akon....
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Akon can be nice, but Nate Dogg shits on him any day
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word, very true 8)
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LOL@SGV picking Akon over Nate Dogg...Typical.
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Akon is good artist - no more, no less, but Nate...hmmm... Nate is dope, he's legend cuz he did a lot of greate solo tracks and he's still got best hooks 8)
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LOL @ People thinking Nate has really been hot the past two years or so. Nate's hooks are boring nowadays. But, since he's Nate, people love him. That's fine... I just have a mind of my own.
Akon's album >>> Nate Dogg's. Why? Cuz Nate needs all kinds of rappers to carry it to even be listenable... Akon had very few features and made a great album. Just cuz someone's a legend, doesn't mean they're great their whole career.
That's like saying KRS-One >> T.I. in the last two years cuz KRS is a legend, even though the material he's put out has been garb.
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i like nate more overall. but nothing of his has really impressed me at all recently. most notable apperance for me was probably Dead Wrong from Ms Jade.. and that was like good 4 years ago...
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LOL @ People thinking Nate has really been hot the past two years or so. Nate's hooks are boring nowadays. But, since he's Nate, people love him. That's fine... I just have a mind of my own.
Akon's album >>> Nate Dogg's. Why? Cuz Nate needs all kinds of rappers to carry it to even be listenable... Akon had very few features and made a great album. Just cuz someone's a legend, doesn't mean they're great their whole career.
That's like saying KRS-One >> T.I. in the last two years cuz KRS is a legend, even though the material he's put out has been garb.
I'm sorry, but you're missing the point...Nate Dogg is simply a better singer in every aspect. Better voice, better flow, better subject matter, doesn't sound like a whining bitch getting raped, etc. I would much rather listen to a song (recent or old) featuring Nate Dogg than Akon...You just love pop.
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What point? The point is that Nate Dogg really hasn't had anything hot in a while. Nate Dogg is a better singer? Dude has no range. Ever seen him live? He lip sync's. Dude can't even really sing. Their subject matter probably ain't that different. LMAO @ I Just Love Pop. Yes, cuz songs like Locked Up, Soul Survivor, Ghetto, Trouble, Gangsta, Snitch etc. are Pop. LMAO @ That wack ass defense.
Tracks like Shake That Ass, Have A Party, I Like That, Area Codes, 21 Questions etc. are just as Pop. SORRY!
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What point? The point is that Nate Dogg really hasn't had anything hot in a while. Nate Dogg is a better singer? Dude has no range. Ever seen him live? He lip sync's. Dude can't even really sing. Their subject matter probably ain't that different. LMAO @ I Just Love Pop. Yes, cuz songs like Locked Up, Soul Survivor, Ghetto, Trouble, Gangsta, Snitch etc. are Pop. LMAO @ That wack ass defense.
Tracks like Shake That Ass, Have A Party, I Like That, Area Codes, 21 Questions etc. are just as Pop. SORRY!
It's not defense, Akon's style is a lot more pop, and anyone who doesn't see that is fucking retarded. But then again, I am dealing with you. Nate Dogg sounds better on tracks. The End. Also LOL@Nate Dogg has no range. I've heard him go from high pitch to low pitch, from smooth shit to rugged shit...Akon is just another pop act, nobody's gunna know him in 5 years from now. You love pop...SoRRy.
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nate dogg>>>>>>>akon
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career wise nate >>> akon... but right now akon >>>> nate ..... nate needs sometime away from the game b/c everyone and there mother used him and they used him the same exact way on the hook. Right now akon is something different it just sounds fresher. But career wise akon has a long way to go to ever see nate
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It's not defense, Akon's style is a lot more pop, and anyone who doesn't see that is fucking retarded. But then again, I am dealing with you. Nate Dogg sounds better on tracks. The End. Also LOL@Nate Dogg has no range. I've heard him go from high pitch to low pitch, from smooth shit to rugged shit...Akon is just another pop act, nobody's gunna know him in 5 years from now. You love pop...SoRRy.
Calling me retarded, but you think someone who makes songs about straight street shit pop. Tell me how Locked Up is a pop song. lmao @ I love pop. I guess Pop is an artist talking about slangin' D now. *Expects the next N Sync album to be full of Drug Tales*
Akon's gonna be around for a while. He's been out in the mainstream a good two years now and is showing no signs of stopping. He's got his label popping with an artist who's doing very well right now, as well. Dude produces for a wide range of artists as well. Like dude above me said:
nate needs sometime away from the game b/c everyone and their mother used him and they used him the same exact way on the hook. Right now akon is something different it just sounds fresher.
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career wise nate >>> akon... but right now akon >>>> nate .....
I agree with this. I think Akon's album isa bit better than Nate Dogg's albums and Ghetto is better than any solo track from Nate Dogg. They're different, but Nate Dogg is the more complete singer. There are two things about Akon: 1. he's over exposed at the moment and I'm more and more getting sick of him and 2. Akon doesn't have a wide range.
^^and that's with both not the case with Nate Dogg
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Maybe the east coast Dannyboy, but he ain't touchin' Nate.
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truth be told its not like nate doggs and amazing singer either
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truth be told its not like nate doggs and amazing singer either
Nate sounds perfect to me...His voice is just how I'd want it to sound, he ALWAYS comes correct...Fuck this bullshit, this is really why I rarely post in these music sections anymore...I hate a great portion of the music coming out nowadays, and it seems like a lot of people on this board are down with it...Where have all the real heads gone?...Nate Dogg over Akon? LMFAO. It's a damn shame, ya'll forget what Nate Dogg has done, he defined his own sub-genre in this game...Akon isn't coming close, his voice sounds annoying, his main fanbase is pre-pubescent teenage girls. Nate Dogg still sounds amazing, even on the recent 213 album, songs like "Appreciation", "MLK", "Keep It Gangsta", "Rollin Down The Highway", etc. were WAYYY better than anything Akon could ever do. FUCK that shit. :grumpy:...PeACe
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truth be told its not like nate doggs and amazing singer either
Nate sounds perfect to me...His voice is just how I'd want it to sound, he ALWAYS comes correct...Fuck this bullshit, this is really why I rarely post in these music sections anymore...I hate a great portion of the music coming out nowadays, and it seems like a lot of people on this board are down with it...Where have all the real heads gone?...Nate Dogg over Akon? LMFAO. It's a damn shame, ya'll forget what Nate Dogg has done, he defined his own sub-genre in this game...Akon isn't coming close, his voice sounds annoying, his main fanbase is pre-pubescent teenage girls. Nate Dogg still sounds amazing, even on the recent 213 album, songs like "Appreciation", "MLK", "Keep It Gangsta", "Rollin Down The Highway", etc. were WAYYY better than anything Akon could ever do. FUCK that shit. :grumpy:...PeACe
yea hes perfect for what his role is. But people here act like hes a amazing singer which he is not. Nate is very limited and its the truth. yes he is the king of hooks but he is still limited. The thing with nate is he got over exposed. Its not his fault but those that used his services. They used him exactly the same in every hook he did. He didnt get a chance to use what little range he has. His tone and delivery is exactly the same in almost every song he has appeared on. No one is saying Nate is wack, hes just over exposed at the moment. Akon is something new and he sounds fresh. And he has been used different on every song he appears on. But if cats start using him the same over and over again hes going to become stale.
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truth be told its not like nate doggs and amazing singer either
Nate sounds perfect to me...His voice is just how I'd want it to sound, he ALWAYS comes correct...Fuck this bullshit, this is really why I rarely post in these music sections anymore...I hate a great portion of the music coming out nowadays, and it seems like a lot of people on this board are down with it...Where have all the real heads gone?...Nate Dogg over Akon? LMFAO. It's a damn shame, ya'll forget what Nate Dogg has done, he defined his own sub-genre in this game...Akon isn't coming close, his voice sounds annoying, his main fanbase is pre-pubescent teenage girls. Nate Dogg still sounds amazing, even on the recent 213 album, songs like "Appreciation", "MLK", "Keep It Gangsta", "Rollin Down The Highway", etc. were WAYYY better than anything Akon could ever do. FUCK that shit. :grumpy:...PeACe
yea hes perfect for what his role is. But people here act like hes a amazing singer which he is not. Nate is very limited and its the truth. yes he is the king of hooks but he is still limited. The thing with nate is he got over exposed. Its not his fault but those that used his services. They used him exactly the same in every hook he did. He didnt get a chance to use what little range he has. His tone and delivery is exactly the same in almost every song he has appeared on. No one is saying Nate is wack, hes just over exposed at the moment. Akon is something new and he sounds fresh. And he has been used different on every song he appears on. But if cats start using him the same over and over again hes going to become stale.
You talking about Nate always sounding the same and being limiited is straight bullshit. Of course he delivers close to the same style every time, EVERY artist does, it's their sig style they stick with that makes them who they are...But he has RANGE, wtf? Compare the highs in "Ain't No Fun" to the lows in "My Name"...Out of all these artists who have been overexposed and all over tracks, from Snoop to 50 Cent to Kokane to Kurupt, Nate Dogg is the one artist who remains timeless to me and always sounds fresh...Why? Because that's what he's about. He's the hookmaster, and the song is always even better when he adds a verse...And he can't carry his own songs? Yes, his specialty is features, but THAT CLAIM IS EVEN MORE BS...He's put out so many solo classics, songs like "Why", "First We Pray", "I Need A Bitch", shit, listen to the solo tracks on "G Funk Classics", they're ALL good...And by far WAY better than anything Akon has ever done...I just can't believe this shit anymore... :stupid:
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NIK: We're not talking "Ain't No Fun" Nate Dogg. We're talking "Shake That Ass" monotone-over done Nate Dogg. Nate Dogg of the past few years. No one is saying Akon shits on Nate Dogg career wise. We're saying that Akon is hotter than Nate NOW. Everything he's been doing is hotter than anything Nate has been doing lately. Nate's hooks are sounding the same nowadays... But you just can't seem to grasp that. Wonder why?
Ain't no sense in trying to talk to you about this, you just admitted to being a hater. So why try?
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NIK: We're not talking "Ain't No Fun" Nate Dogg. We're talking "Shake That Ass" monotone-over done Nate Dogg. Nate Dogg of the past few years. No one is saying Akon shits on Nate Dogg career wise. We're saying that Akon is hotter than Nate NOW. Everything he's been doing is hotter than anything Nate has been doing lately. Nate's hooks are sounding the same nowadays... But you just can't seem to grasp that. Wonder why?
Ain't no sense in trying to talk to you about this, you just admitted to being a hater. So why try?
I admitted to being a hater? So everyone is a hater. Don't you also hate the sound of a nasal bitch getting raped? Well that's what Akon sounds like to me...And I still heavily disagree, career-wise, now, any fucking day...Nate shits all over Akon. PERIOD. As for his monotone-over done style, sorry, but no...Even in the song "Shake That Ass", which you chose to use as an example, Nate displays his skill more than Akon in ANY track I've ever heard Akon in...And yes, he shows range in that track as well...Compare the part where his verser kicks in "two to the one from the one to the three" to the part where he sings "we bout to have a partyyyy, let's get it starteeeeed"...he goes from completely low to completely high, something I've never heard Akon do...Anyways, it's pretty useless arguing with you about music, because it's blatantly obvious that you like pop shit over quality shit...Whatever though, I'ma keep making my points as long as you keep saying dumb shit...PeACe
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Yes, you said you "hate a great portion of the music coming out nowadays." We already know where you stand.
Lonely... Look at how he goes from mellow to rather passionate.
Listen to how he flips Comin' From Where I Come From on that track Senegal in comparison to say Belly Dancer. Check the Reggae style he flips on Gunshot compared to Ghetto.
Dude is VERSATILE and ALWAYS shows range. You've never heard Akon do anything cuz you're a hater plain and simple. And, Nik, if I "like pop shit over quality shit" why would you always ride my dick and try to talk to me about TechN9ne? Tech's one of my favorite emcee's, you seem to think he's quality. But, if I like him, and I perfer Pop to quality, he must be Pop. And, since you like Tech, wouldn't that mean you like Pop? Hmm... Yea dude. You really have no merit in your arguement. You've never really heard Akon if you have that opinion about him.
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akon sucks
he'll go down as one of those artists 10 years from now when you're drunk with your people "hey remember that one fool , what's his name uuuuh that lonely singer, uuuuh find him on the block somethin somethin....uuuh" then a friend will be like " i think his name was acorn, or something like that" then everyone will laugh at how cheesy that shit was....
kelly clarkson has more range than nate dogg
bo bice has more range than nate dogg
ruben studard has more range than nate dogg
clay aiken has mor range than nate dogg
that old fool on American Idol right now has more range than dogg
so what? they all probably WON"T be able to MAKE a song classic like nate dogg has been able to do with so many songs
truth be told akon hasn't done anything that is classic, he's got "Lonely" , u mean to tell me that's classic? if that's a classic then WOW the standard has dropped Dramatically
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akon sucks
he'll go down as one of those artists 10 years from now when you're drunk with your people "hey remember that one fool , what's his name uuuuh that lonely singer, uuuuh find him on the block somethin somethin....uuuh" then a friend will be like " i think his name was acorn, or something like that" then everyone will laugh at how cheesy that shit was....
kelly clarkson has more range than nate dogg
bo bice has more range than nate dogg
ruben studard has more range than nate dogg
clay aiken has mor range than nate dogg
that old fool on American Idol right now has more range than dogg
so what? they all probably WON"T be able to MAKE a song classic like nate dogg has been able to do with so many songs
truth be told akon hasn't done anything that is classic, he's got "Lonely" , u mean to tell me that's classic? if that's a classic then WOW the standard has dropped Dramatically
no but the track ghetto was a amazing track and I think it could go punch for punch with any nate dogg solo song. Your miss the point tho jake, career wise no one is comparing akon to nate, but right now what they are doing.
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^Thank you. Why's that so hard to understand? I guess when you got shit going on in your career currently, your fans will bring up old shit to justify you're doing bad (See: Kurupt, Snoop etc.)
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Yes, you said you "hate a great portion of the music coming out nowadays." We already know where you stand.
Lonely... Look at how he goes from mellow to rather passionate.
Listen to how he flips Comin' From Where I Come From on that track Senegal in comparison to say Belly Dancer. Check the Reggae style he flips on Gunshot compared to Ghetto.
Dude is VERSATILE and ALWAYS shows range. You've never heard Akon do anything cuz you're a hater plain and simple. And, Nik, if I "like pop shit over quality shit" why would you always ride my dick and try to talk to me about TechN9ne? Tech's one of my favorite emcee's, you seem to think he's quality. But, if I like him, and I perfer Pop to quality, he must be Pop. And, since you like Tech, wouldn't that mean you like Pop? Hmm... Yea dude. You really have no merit in your arguement. You've never really heard Akon if you have that opinion about him.
I've heard enough tracks from Akon to formulate an opinion...Almost every one of them annoyed the shit out of me, so I feel no need to look further into his catalog. And what does me discussing Tech with you have anything to do with this? I never said that you don't listen to some good shit, it's just that in general your taste is pop, which you can't even argue...And Tech N9ne isn't 100% underground shit, he comes with a lot of radio tracks too, which is probably the style of his you prefer most, knowing your weak taste in music...PeACe
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akon sucks
he'll go down as one of those artists 10 years from now when you're drunk with your people "hey remember that one fool , what's his name uuuuh that lonely singer, uuuuh find him on the block somethin somethin....uuuh" then a friend will be like " i think his name was acorn, or something like that" then everyone will laugh at how cheesy that shit was....
kelly clarkson has more range than nate dogg
bo bice has more range than nate dogg
ruben studard has more range than nate dogg
clay aiken has mor range than nate dogg
that old fool on American Idol right now has more range than dogg
so what? they all probably WON"T be able to MAKE a song classic like nate dogg has been able to do with so many songs
truth be told akon hasn't done anything that is classic, he's got "Lonely" , u mean to tell me that's classic? if that's a classic then WOW the standard has dropped Dramatically
no but the track ghetto was a amazing track and I think it could go punch for punch with any nate dogg solo song. Your miss the point tho jake, career wise no one is comparing akon to nate, but right now what they are doing.
I'm sorry, but NO Akon track can ever compare to a song like "First We Pray" or "Why" or even "One More Day"...He's just not comparable to Nate, not now, not in the past, not ever...PeACe
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akon sucks
he'll go down as one of those artists 10 years from now when you're drunk with your people "hey remember that one fool , what's his name uuuuh that lonely singer, uuuuh find him on the block somethin somethin....uuuh" then a friend will be like " i think his name was acorn, or something like that" then everyone will laugh at how cheesy that shit was....
kelly clarkson has more range than nate dogg
bo bice has more range than nate dogg
ruben studard has more range than nate dogg
clay aiken has mor range than nate dogg
that old fool on American Idol right now has more range than dogg
so what? they all probably WON"T be able to MAKE a song classic like nate dogg has been able to do with so many songs
truth be told akon hasn't done anything that is classic, he's got "Lonely" , u mean to tell me that's classic? if that's a classic then WOW the standard has dropped Dramatically
no but the track ghetto was a amazing track and I think it could go punch for punch with any nate dogg solo song. Your miss the point tho jake, career wise no one is comparing akon to nate, but right now what they are doing.
I'm sorry, but NO Akon track can ever compare to a song like "First We Pray" or "Why" or even "One More Day"...He's just not comparable to Nate, not now, not in the past, not ever...PeACe
and thats your opinion and I disagree, i think the song ghetto can compare to any or nates stuff.
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akon sucks
he'll go down as one of those artists 10 years from now when you're drunk with your people "hey remember that one fool , what's his name uuuuh that lonely singer, uuuuh find him on the block somethin somethin....uuuh" then a friend will be like " i think his name was acorn, or something like that" then everyone will laugh at how cheesy that shit was....
kelly clarkson has more range than nate dogg
bo bice has more range than nate dogg
ruben studard has more range than nate dogg
clay aiken has mor range than nate dogg
that old fool on American Idol right now has more range than dogg
so what? they all probably WON"T be able to MAKE a song classic like nate dogg has been able to do with so many songs
truth be told akon hasn't done anything that is classic, he's got "Lonely" , u mean to tell me that's classic? if that's a classic then WOW the standard has dropped Dramatically
no but the track ghetto was a amazing track and I think it could go punch for punch with any nate dogg solo song. Your miss the point tho jake, career wise no one is comparing akon to nate, but right now what they are doing.
I'm sorry, but NO Akon track can ever compare to a song like "First We Pray" or "Why" or even "One More Day"...He's just not comparable to Nate, not now, not in the past, not ever...PeACe
and thats your opinion and I disagree, i think the song ghetto can compare to any or nates stuff.
Well, at least you're not as dumb as SGV and can comprehend the difference between an opinion and fact...
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But then again, it is your opinion NIK. The song "Ghetto" like Tom mentioned will go against any Nate Dogg solo pound 4 pound, and I tend to agree with that. Akon's voice itself is a talent, may be annoying to you, but I love it. I'm playing the shit out of what he did on that hook with Obie Trice right now. Nate Dogg plays his role as a hip hop singer basically, and he does it better than anyone in that category. But I just can't label him in the R&B category. His style is basically a church lead singer gone gangsta.
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But then again, it is your opinion NIK. The song "Ghetto" like Tom mentioned will go against any Nate Dogg solo pound 4 pound, and I tend to agree with that. Akon's voice itself is a talent, may be annoying to you, but I love it. I'm playing the shit out of what he did on that hook with Obie Trice right now. Nate Dogg plays his role as a hip hop singer basically, and he does it better than anyone in that category. But I just can't label him in the R&B category. His style is basically a church lead singer gone gangsta.
That's what I've been saying...It's my opinion. SGV acts like it's a fact that Akon is hotter right now, when I (along with a lot of other people) prefer a brand new Nate hook over a brand new Akon hook ANY DAY. But then again, it's all on what your taste is... And to me, Akon doesn't sound nearly as fresh as Nate...PeACe
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NIK, why do you always try to pull the victim card. "It's not me, it's SGV!!! :'( "
LOL. Kid... You were hitting ME up for Tech's first albums. You were on my dick everytime I logged on AIM. Explain what's so Pop about the songs I'm bringing up from Akon. You seem to think it's a fact that I like Pop, but it's your opinion. Who's the retard? Now, like I said, Now Im Slow, explain what's Pop about Locked Up, Ghetto, Gangsta, Trouble, Snitch, etc. Let's see this.
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NIK, why do you always try to pull the victim card. "It's not me, it's SGV!!! :'( "
LOL. Kid... You were hitting ME up for Tech's first albums. You were on my dick everytime I logged on AIM. Explain what's so Pop about the songs I'm bringing up from Akon. You seem to think it's a fact that I like Pop, but it's your opinion. Who's the retard? Now, like I said, Now Im Slow, explain what's Pop about Locked Up, Ghetto, Gangsta, Trouble, Snitch, etc. Let's see this.
What an idiot...You think Akon's style is not pop? MR FUCKING LONELY?! LMFAO. And I dont even remember your AIM name, let alone hitting you up for Tech albums. I hit hundreds of people up online for rare Tech N9ne shit back in the days...You really must love my nuts in your mouth to dwell on some shit like that. But yea, even Christina Aguilera makes songs that aren't pop, doesn't really prove anything...I'm sorry, pop fan, but Akon defines pop in hip-hop today... :-*
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akon sucks
he'll go down as one of those artists 10 years from now when you're drunk with your people "hey remember that one fool , what's his name uuuuh that lonely singer, uuuuh find him on the block somethin somethin....uuuh" then a friend will be like " i think his name was acorn, or something like that" then everyone will laugh at how cheesy that shit was....
kelly clarkson has more range than nate dogg
bo bice has more range than nate dogg
ruben studard has more range than nate dogg
clay aiken has mor range than nate dogg
that old fool on American Idol right now has more range than dogg
so what? they all probably WON"T be able to MAKE a song classic like nate dogg has been able to do with so many songs
truth be told akon hasn't done anything that is classic, he's got "Lonely" , u mean to tell me that's classic? if that's a classic then WOW the standard has dropped Dramatically
no but the track ghetto was a amazing track and I think it could go punch for punch with any nate dogg solo song. Your miss the point tho jake, career wise no one is comparing akon to nate, but right now what they are doing.
the guest spots and songs AKON is doing RIGHT now isn't that much better than what nate dogg is doing .....it still sux, i'm not sitting here saying, "nate dogg has had a better career so automatically anything he puts out is better than akon" .....i'm not saying that , i'm saying this:
akon to you and a couple of peopel out there in the world is doing 'hot' tracks....when truth be told in 10 years almost everything he's done now will either a) be forgotten or b) laughed at.
poison at one point were 'hotter' than aerosmith in the 80's and at one point putting out 'hotterr' songs......see my point
akon isn't anything special, it's like simon on american idol says "just because you can sing with range, doesn't mean you can make a good song"
i'll be REALLY suprised if AKON stays relavent in 5 more years.....you can bring this post back up and slap it in my face if he does
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what's Pop about Locked Up, Ghetto, Gangsta, Trouble, Snitch, etc. Let's see this.
well when you sample a Bobby Vinton (an original tenny booper singer) track, go on TRL and TRY to appease 13 year old girls who go "woooooooooooooooo" every 2 seconds and give interviews to BOP, J17 , and other teeny bopper magazines who have the likes of hilary duff, chris brown , and fall out boy on the cover , you kind get that POP lable
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But I just can't label him in the R&B category. His style is basically a church lead singer gone gangsta.
i'm not knocking your opinion about akon....but i got to correct this ^ inaccruacy
R&B and gospal music=basically the same thing
jodeci was an R&B act right? and they were more gospal oriented than nate
Boyz II Men as well.
just correcting
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And Nate hasn't done any Pop tracks? I Like That with Houston and Chingy. That joint with Mariah and Damizza. Another joint he had with Mariah. etc. I mean, if we talking Pop, Nate is just as guilty.
So, as much of a Pop fan as I am, I guess you are too. Sorry Pop Fan!
*waits for NIK to say he doesn't like those songs or that there's a difference*
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u guys think Akon or Nate care if they've done 'POP' tracks?
they're laughin to the bank u lame bitches
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this is all bs, akon first need to work with the likes of 2pac, snoop dogg, warren g, eminem, dr. dre, 50 cent and so on before i'll EVEN think about akon....
and obviously he hasnt enough talent to want these ppl to work with him...
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And Nate hasn't done any Pop tracks? I Like That with Houston and Chingy. That joint with Mariah and Damizza. Another joint he had with Mariah. etc. I mean, if we talking Pop, Nate is just as guilty.
So, as much of a Pop fan as I am, I guess you are too. Sorry Pop Fan!
*waits for NIK to say he doesn't like those songs or that there's a difference*
commercial yes but pop....no
i don't see him on teeny magazines
i don't see him on trl , trying to stir up 13 year old girls' emotions
i don't see him sampling old bubble gum tunes
commercial (fabolous, ect. ) but pop....not as extreme as akon
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LOL @ Him being on teeny mags. You got these mags as proof? I personally don't read em, but you must have. Find some scans. Out of his 4 or 5 singles, he only had one that was truely aimed at the commercial masses and that was "Lonely." That song was your typical R&B track, but whatever. I've NEVER seen a Pop act with so many songs that talk about all the street shit this dudes talks about. When did ONE song make you a Pop artist? LOL.
A song like "If We" with Mariah and Ja is just as Pop, difference is it wasn't a single. But, it's JUST as Pop as say "Lonely."
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Imo, Akon is way better than any others "new" Rnb artists, dude got skills without a doubt.. When it comes to compare Akon to Nate RIGHT NOW, it's all about opinions... I like Akon on Snitch and on this Booba track (french rapper) and Nate is dope on I need a light and Black Mercedes.. To be honest I've got no preferences right now
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LOL @ Him being on teeny mags. You got these mags as proof? I personally don't read em, but you must have. Find some scans. Out of his 4 or 5 singles, he only had one that was truely aimed at the commercial masses and that was "Lonely." That song was your typical R&B track, but whatever. I've NEVER seen a Pop act with so many songs that talk about all the street shit this dudes talks about. When did ONE song make you a Pop artist? LOL.
A song like "If We" with Mariah and Ja is just as Pop, difference is it wasn't a single. But, it's JUST as Pop as say "Lonely."
u say mariah carey, like it's a BAD thing,lol
Mariah Carey is the greatet voice in music history....period. she doesn't even need a producer like dr. dre or timbo, or your fav. jermaine dupri, she can produce her OWN music, SING on it and it'll be classic. that's Prince status right there. so props to nate dogg
theres mariah carey/prince/michael jackson/madonna/coldplay/oasis/beatles-pop so i'm glad nate fell into that pop category 8)
dude SGV like i said akon will not be relavent in 5 years, why are you wasting so much energy on defending him
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You didn't even answer the question. You must not be able to. You have no proof of him being in this teen mags. You can't respond to how does having one song make an arist pop.
Akon writes and produces his own shit... now I'm not saying he's as good as MC or Prince, but he deserves credit for that.
How about a song like I Like That with Houston and Chingy. Just as pop, if not more.
If Akon is so irrelevant why are you taking time to try and prove so? If he wasn't shit like you claim everyone would see it and agree with you. That's not the case. You feel that way and that's all good. But not many others feel that way.
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Mariah Carey hasn't got a voice I really like,I'm sorry.
As for hiphop hooks,no one beats Nate Dogg,except perhaps Butch Cassidy at times but they're cousins so it stays in the family.
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You didn't even answer the question. You must not be able to. You have no proof of him being in this teen mags. You can't respond to how does having one song make an arist pop.
Akon writes and produces his own shit... now I'm not saying he's as good as MC or Prince, but he deserves credit for that.
How about a song like I Like That with Houston and Chingy. Just as pop, if not more.
If Akon is so irrelevant why are you taking time to try and prove so? If he wasn't shit like you claim everyone would see it and agree with you. That's not the case. You feel that way and that's all good. But not many others feel that way.
1. i don't own any teeny bopper magazines, where i work they have those there, see them, and sometimes i have to supervise the people who come and put them on the newstands....if you don't believe me go look it up, they're called j15 , tiger beat, and bop
2. good for him, but has he made any classic songs? in all honesty do you see yourself bumping his music when you're 38? or do you think it'll be somethin like Color me Bad, or rome "ahh i remember this , hahaha wow that was a long time ago"
3. i havn't hread that song in a while let me download it.....yah it's pop but you know what i hear...nate dogg making it more credible and less pop.....when i hear an akon song i hear it becoming MORE poppy when it comes on
4. because it's fun to see you get all worked up about ANOTHER lesser artist. like i said if akon is ON TOP of the charts and is all over th radio in 5-6 years and we're all still posting here, u can throw that in my face as much as you want, but like i said i don't see him having that much longer 'in the light' as well as hip hop
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Well the fact he is from Senegal kind of dis-proves his east coast status .........
^^Word.
I think that's a fair statement to make, that he's the new East Coast Nate Dogg. Obviously, he may never have the legacy that Nate Dogg has established, but we can't blame Akon, because Nate Dogg came out in the West Coast Golden Age and he started out on the ground floor of Death Row Records. Akon is trying to make a name for himself working with artists that aren't 1/10th as dope as the artists Nate Dogg came up with.
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Well the fact he is from Senegal kind of dis-proves his east coast status .........
Well he did leave Senegal when he was seven. So if Xzibit can claim being from the west and he moved to Cali when he was 17, then Akon can rep the east coast.
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Well the fact he is from Senegal kind of dis-proves his east coast status .........
^^Word.
I think that's a fair statement to make, that he's the new East Coast Nate Dogg. Obviously, he may never have the legacy that Nate Dogg has established, but we can't blame Akon, because Nate Dogg came out in the West Coast Golden Age and he started out on the ground floor of Death Row Records. Akon is trying to make a name for himself working with artists that aren't 1/10th as dope as the artists Nate Dogg came up with.
this is the infinite I miss
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jake how come you keep fallin back on lonely being poppy but wont speak on the songs sgv mentioned. And you talk about bumpin akon songs when where 38 years old. I can see myself listening to the song ghetto when im 38. That song can go toe to toe with any nate solo track.
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jake how come you keep fallin back on lonely being poppy but wont speak on the songs sgv mentioned. And you talk about bumpin akon songs when where 38 years old. I can see myself listening to the song ghetto when im 38. That song can go toe to toe with any nate solo track.
Because he only has that one song to use to as "proof" that Akon is pop. LOL. Last time I heard, Backstreet Boys and NSync weren't talking about drug slangs or anything of that matter. Jake is just an uninformed person, trying act as authority. A track like Ghetto is pretty timeless, so yes I can see myself bumping Akon when I'm 38.
LMAO @ You seeing Nate Dogg making "I Like That" more credible. Only Jake...
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i just addressed the songs he talked about tom
Because he only has that one song to use to as "proof" that Akon is pop. LOL. Last time I heard, Backstreet Boys and NSync weren't talking about drug slangs or anything of that matter. Jake is just an uninformed person, trying act as authority. A track like Ghetto is pretty timeless, so yes I can see myself bumping Akon when I'm 38.
LMAO @ You seeing Nate Dogg making "I Like That" more credible. Only Jake...
1. when did i ever JUST mention lonely as proof of him ,being cheesy pop?
2. are you saying that backstreet and nsync are the standard of pop music? bobby brown is considered a pop artist...him AND his wife, i don't need to say anything else. except bobby and whitney.
3. uninformed? if you're going to make a statement like that , back it up by saying how.
4. if you like ghetto and think it's a song you can bump til you're dead in your coffin....fine that's you're opinion but again like i said, nothing akon has released has had any sort of relvent impact on music, his album is probably a 3/5 album at best. he's got O classics under his belt and i havn't seen him do anything spectacular
One more Day>ghetto any day of the week
"any man can step toe to toe, but only one on man can come out blow for blow"
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nothing akon has released has had any sort of relvent impact on music
Being the only mainstream R&B singer with rap lyrics right now, I think Akon's impact on music might show off in a year or earlier if/when more Reality R&B singers pop up in the mainstream.
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One more Day>ghetto any day of the week
^^ I agree, but it's still a close call.
Infact, I got an even better comparison...
"Never Leave Me Alone" > "Locked Up" ... but again, it's a close call, I love Akon's hook but I'm not feeling the rest of his lyrics.
We know there's many Nate Dogg songs that Akon has no match for...
"Regulators" (although not solo, duo track)
"Annie Mae" (although not solo, duo track)
"Nobody Does It Better"
"Don't Want To Hurt No More"
"Be Thankful" (off the Deathrow Christmas album, Butch Cassidy also helps him out on this one)
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nothing akon has released has had any sort of relvent impact on music
Being the only mainstream R&B singer with rap lyrics right now, I think Akon's impact on music might show off in a year or earlier if/when more Reality R&B singers pop up in the mainstream.
it wouldn't be because of akon, 'reality' r&b singers have exhisited here and there for a while now. mauzips hero tq for example
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One more Day>ghetto any day of the week
"Be Thankful" (off the Deathrow Christmas album, Butch Cassidy also helps him out on this one)
yeah i like this sogn alot, that was 1 of only 2 songs i like off that cd
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ghetto = one more day... jake it can go toe to toe or blow for blow whatever phrase you choose. Dude has one really poppy track besides that his stuff is just as street as nates stuff. And nate has one song just as poppy too, that joint with houston.
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nothing akon has released has had any sort of relvent impact on music
Being the only mainstream R&B singer with rap lyrics right now, I think Akon's impact on music might show off in a year or earlier if/when more Reality R&B singers pop up in the mainstream.
it wouldn't be because of akon, 'reality' r&b singers have exhisited here and there for a while now. mauzips hero tq for example
Here and there, yes. The past decennia there has not been any established mainstream Reality R&B artist. Akon might be the first.
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i just addressed the songs he talked about tom You did? Where?
1. when did i ever JUST mention lonely as proof of him ,being cheesy pop? That's the only song you use as "proof" hence:
what's Pop about Locked Up, Ghetto, Gangsta, Trouble, Snitch, etc. Let's see this.
well when you sample a Bobby Vinton (an original tenny booper singer) track, go on TRL and TRY to appease 13 year old girls who go "woooooooooooooooo" every 2 seconds and give interviews to BOP, J17 , and other teeny bopper magazines who have the likes of hilary duff, chris brown , and fall out boy on the cover , you kind get that POP lable
2. are you saying that backstreet and nsync are the standard of pop music? bobby brown is considered a pop artist...him AND his wife, i don't need to say anything else. except bobby and whitney. The Pop you're talking about: TRL, Teen Mags etc. That's Nysnc and Backstreet Boys. I've never heard someone call B.Brown Pop. If anything, he has always got the stamp of R&B.
3. uninformed? if you're going to make a statement like that , back it up by saying how. See above
4. if you like ghetto and think it's a song you can bump til you're dead in your coffin....fine that's you're opinion but again like i said, nothing akon has released has had any sort of relvent impact on music, his album is probably a 3/5 album at best. he's got O classics under his belt and i havn't seen him do anything spectacular Key word is "I" You don't like him, of course you don't think he's made impact. It's a biased opinion on your part.
One more Day>ghetto any day of the week
"any man can step toe to toe, but only one on man can come out blow for blow" Once again, your opinion. A biased opinion.
Explain how Akon can be Pop when he has tons of tracks that are NOTHING but Street Anthems. Address songs as Locked Up, Trouble, Never Gonna Get It, Gunshot, So Fly, etc. can qualify ANYONE as Pop. Don't bring nothing else up... Just address these songs. They make up 99% of Akon's music.
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This thread is hilarious. I have no idea how people are dumb enough to not see that Akon's persona as a whole and approach to the game is COMPLETELY different than Nate's...Like Jake said, Nate Dogg gave a song like "I Like That" credibility (yes, SGV, he did comment on it, you moron who replies without reading), where as someone like Akon would have made it even more pop...SGV is the biggest (<<in 2 ways) reason I don't post in these sections much anymore. His taste is horrendous and the worst part is that a lot of people here have that taste, so he feels justified in the dumbass shit he says...Learn to differentiate real music from gimmicky shit...PeACe
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Looks like someone else posts without reading. Re-Read what Tom and I both posted. Why doesn't he address the AKON songs I'm listing. Who's the moron? That would be you. Nate never made I Like That more credible, in your eyes he did... But I don't know anyone else who feels that way. Hell, the fuckin' song was all over the Superbowl when it first came out during the commercials. If I'm not mistaken, it was the theme song for the commercial for Jake's place of work, McDonalds. How much more POP can you get? Fuck outta here.
My taste is horrendous? So TechN9ne is horrendous? You must have that same horrendous taste. Chino XL is horrendous? Crooked I? Planet Asia? CMON MAN!!! You need the learn to differentiate being an idiot and being yourself. Those two qualities are really clashing, cuz they're just so similar. PeACe.
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Looks like someone else posts without reading. Re-Read what Tom and I both posted. Why doesn't he address the AKON songs I'm listing. Who's the moron? That would be you. Nate never made I Like That more credible, in your eyes he did... But I don't know anyone else who feels that way. Hell, the fuckin' song was all over the Superbowl when it first came out during the commercials. If I'm not mistaken, it was the theme song for the commercial for Jake's place of work, McDonalds. How much more POP can you get? Fuck outta here.
My taste is horrendous? So TechN9ne is horrendous? You must have that same horrendous taste. Chino XL is horrendous? Crooked I? Planet Asia? CMON MAN!!! You need the learn to differentiate being an idiot and being yourself. Those two qualities are really clashing, cuz they're just so similar. PeACe.
You are just dumb, that's what it really comes down to. The songs you listed of Akon change nothing of his pop gimmick, Sisqo used to make street tracks too...LMAO. That means absolutely nothing, you're just too dumb to comprehend the fact that Akon's approach to the game and Nate's were wayyyy different. Akon is a pop artist. Every real artist has made pop sounding tracks, even cats like Rakim. But there's a difference when you're an actual pop artist, just like Akon is...As for you having horrendous taste, don't try to give yourself some sort of credibility by naming underground cats to compensate for your main taste, which is pop...People can have shitty taste overall and still like some weak artists...You have to be an idiot not to comprehend that. Make an arguement for me being an idiot, as I've been doing for you...You can't, because you're fucking dumb. :-*
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So even though Akon makes 99% street tracks, his approach is Pop? He can be compared to Sisqo cuz of ONE SONG? LMAO. I don't need to continue. It's evident who the real idiot is here. Really, just stop while you're ahead, you already look like Corky from Life Goes On. LMAO @ Now Im Retarded.
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LMAO! How is his approach street when he's mostly known for tracks like "Lonely" and "Belly Dancer"?...I don't give a fuck if you like Akon. No matter what you say, I still find him whack overall as an artist and not comparable to Nate Dogg. That's my opinion. Stop getting all butt-hurt cuz you can never top me... :-*
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LMAO! How is his approach street when he's mostly known for tracks like "Lonely" and "Belly Dancer"?...I don't give a fuck if you like Akon. No matter what you say, I still find him whack overall as an artist and not comparable to Nate Dogg. That's my opinion. Stop getting all butt-hurt cuz you can never top me... :-*
actually if you ask most people I dont think they would think of akon as a pop artist though. There are some but I think a lot of hip hop heads wouldnt think o f him as a pop artist.
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LMAO! How is his approach street when he's mostly known for tracks like "Lonely" and "Belly Dancer"?...I don't give a fuck if you like Akon. No matter what you say, I still find him whack overall as an artist and not comparable to Nate Dogg. That's my opinion. Stop getting all butt-hurt cuz you can never top me... :-*
actually if you ask most people I dont think they would think of akon as a pop artist though. There are some but I think a lot of hip hop heads wouldnt think o f him as a pop artist.
Well, the heads I know don't like his shit, and I've asked them after reading some of the bogus claims in this thread...Doesn't mean a heads can't like his shit, but we all know SGV's taste in general is pop and Akon is considered a pop artist by many...PeACe
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Akon is more of a pop artist...but he goes a good job of lacing hooks for songs like "Soul Survivor" and "Snitch". You can't fuck with Nate Dogg though...his voice can sometimes make the beat sound way better than it already does. Nate knows how to jump in between the track with his vocals.
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LMAO! How is his approach street when he's mostly known for tracks like "Lonely" and "Belly Dancer"?...I don't give a fuck if you like Akon. No matter what you say, I still find him whack overall as an artist and not comparable to Nate Dogg. That's my opinion. Stop getting all butt-hurt cuz you can never top me... :-*
LMAO! Dude is KNOWN for shit like Locked Up, Soul Survivor etc. Let's see, you brought up getting butt hurt, but ain't nobody here crying but you "You'll never top me!!! :'( :'( :'( " LOL. Yea so you don't know shit about Akon, you're simply a hater. LMAO @ ANYONE knowing him for Belly Dancer. AT LEAST use that Baby Bash track. LOL. Fuckin' moron.
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lol titty boy would know the songs Mc Donald's used in their ads a while ago...lol
but on there real all i got to say is this....
give akon 5 years if he's relevant and still all over the radio, sgv was right , he's more than a pop/disposable artist
but i'm sticking with my guns here in 5-6 year akon will not be relevant , he'll probably still be releasing albums but unless he starts an acting career or something i don't see him being relevant in music
::yawns @ every song and 'street anthem on "trouble" slaps on some classic soul music and throws a middle finger to the radio::
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he has a lot of work to do to live up to the name of "The Nate Dogg of the East"
real talk right here...
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lol titty boy would know the songs Mc Donald's used in their ads a while ago...lol
but on there real all i got to say is this....
give akon 5 years if he's relevant and still all over the radio, sgv was right , he's more than a pop/disposable artist
but i'm sticking with my guns here in 5-6 year akon will not be relevant , he'll probably still be releasing albums but unless he starts an acting career or something i don't see him being relevant in music
::yawns @ every song and 'street anthem on "trouble" slaps on some classic soul music and throws a middle finger to the radio::
So as I expected, you had nothing to say to his street tracks... All you can do is throw random insults because you have no case. LOL @ Jake The Big Mac Queen right here.
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what's your obsession with mc donald's tit master delux? are you THAT hungry all the time?
what'd you want me to do? lol do you want an in depth review of his lame album
artist: akon
album: trouble
1. locked up- 2.5/5- annoying radio single , that sounds dated when listening back on it, tries to be dramatic, but falls short, gets boring, beat sounds like something off a whack g unit song
2. trouble- 2/5- skippable song, whack begining, tedious meat of the song and hook gets old quick, sounds like i've heard this song before a couple million times, weird beat
3. bananza- 2/5- one of those songs that those slutty 'club' girls listen to , whack hook, forgettable song, anoying beat again that reminds me of one of those songs that a fat 'party' gril would lsiten to drunk and like
4. gangsa-1.5/5- wow again an anoying song that sounds dated when listening back on it, again why have i heard this song some where else a million times over? average beat at best, song is too long
5. ghetto- 3/5- not that great of an 'anthm' , dated sound and overdone subject matter, the beat is very simplistic and not that catchy and very uninspired
6. pot of gold-2/5- one of those songs you hear the first couple of seconds and skip, listening through it is like work, the subject matter is blah, and the hook is real poppy n'syn-ish even, beat is very simplistic and doesn't even acclompish in being catchy
7. show out-2/5- this song is ok at first but when listening to the hook over and over again it gets old quick, again , you can almost picture yourself in the car with a girl going to a club or party 2 years ago and maybe feeling it a lttle bit but , to enoy it now you'd need some good weed, beat is ok but too snthasized
8. lonely-2.5/5- wow another cheese fest , very simple uninspired beat , and the hook gets old quik
9. when the times right-1.5/5- this song is jsut too unnatural, the emotion he tries to covey here sounds too forced
10. journey-2/5- a song that you can't wait for it to be over, again another song that is too long for the quality it is, very tedious. and damn it akon ,again, why have i hread this song done before, but better? beat is very weird too , the drumline doesn't really match the spee of the other stuff going on in the beat IMO i can't put my finger on it but it's weird
11. don't let up- 2.5/5another song that is very tedious to listen to, cheesy beat , again i'm reapeating myself here but the hook gets old quick
12. easy road- 3/5- one of the better songs on the album, the beat is done better, there is some catchiness to it, and unlike 98% of the rest of the album the beat isn't THAT dated, not yet, at least. voice is still annoying but at least i havn't heard these lyrics 2 million times before from someone else who did it better.
overall
the street songs , although you can tell he tires , you can't help but think , wow i've heard this story before....i wouldn't care if he chose to sing about the streets and the shit that goes on, but he doesn't make anytrack his own, the topics sound very broad...almost any white suburban kid could tell this story from listening to old rap records, tell us something new, i KNOW there's stuff that goes on in the street that HASN"T been touched yet.....most of the street anthems go up the easy route , and become a self paradoy of the genre
all of the club songs on this album fall short of being smash hits, and get old very quickly, the have that dated keyboard sound from 2-3 years ago
most of the soulful tracks here , where akon goes out on a limb to find himself, sounds ...forced and overdone, very cliched topics , no real personality to the tracks....which wouldn't be as bad if he made these songs his OWN, instead they sound ameturish like he's imitating keith sweat or ginuwine which makes you think wow i've heard this done before
sexual songs- this is what really hold this album back. maybe i'm just spoiled from listening to jodeci all my life and growing up with marvin gaye and all the classics from the 60's and 70's but i almost want to laugh at how hard akon tries to 'allure' or set the mood, these sogns would make my dick softer than yogurt if a girl played this to set the mood
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what's your obsession with mc donald's tit master delux? are you THAT hungry all the time?
what'd you want me to do? lol do you want an in depth review of his lame album
artist: akon
album: trouble
1. locked up- 2.5/5- annoying radio single , that sounds dated when listening back on it, tries to be dramatic, but falls short, gets boring, beat sounds like something off a whack g unit song
2. trouble- 2/5- skippable song, whack begining, tedious meat of the song and hook gets old quick, sounds like i've heard this song before a couple million times, weird beat
3. bananza- 2/5- one of those songs that those slutty 'club' girls listen to , whack hook, forgettable song, anoying beat again that reminds me of one of those songs that a fat 'party' gril would lsiten to drunk and like
4. gangsa-1.5/5- wow again an anoying song that sounds dated when listening back on it, again why have i heard this song some where else a million times over? average beat at best, song is too long
5. ghetto- 3/5- not that great of an 'anthm' , dated sound and overdone subject matter, the beat is very simplistic and not that catchy and very uninspired
6. pot of gold-2/5- one of those songs you hear the first couple of seconds and skip, listening through it is like work, the subject matter is blah, and the hook is real poppy n'syn-ish even, beat is very simplistic and doesn't even acclompish in being catchy
7. show out-2/5- this song is ok at first but when listening to the hook over and over again it gets old quick, again , you can almost picture yourself in the car with a girl going to a club or party 2 years ago and maybe feeling it a lttle bit but , to enoy it now you'd need some good weed, beat is ok but too snthasized
8. lonely-2.5/5- wow another cheese fest , very simple uninspired beat , and the hook gets old quik
9. when the times right-1.5/5- this song is jsut too unnatural, the emotion he tries to covey here sounds too forced
10. journey-2/5- a song that you can't wait for it to be over, again another song that is too long for the quality it is, very tedious. and damn it akon ,again, why have i hread this song done before, but better? beat is very weird too , the drumline doesn't really match the spee of the other stuff going on in the beat IMO i can't put my finger on it but it's weird
11. don't let up- 2.5/5another song that is very tedious to listen to, cheesy beat , again i'm reapeating myself here but the hook gets old quick
12. easy road- 3/5- one of the better songs on the album, the beat is done better, there is some catchiness to it, and unlike 98% of the rest of the album the beat isn't THAT dated, not yet, at least. voice is still annoying but at least i havn't heard these lyrics 2 million times before from someone else who did it better.
overall
the street songs , although you can tell he tires , you can't help but think , wow i've heard this story before....i wouldn't care if he chose to sing about the streets and the shit that goes on, but he doesn't make anytrack his own, the topics sound very broad...almost any white suburban kid could tell this story from listening to old rap records, tell us something new, i KNOW there's stuff that goes on in the street that HASN"T been touched yet.....most of the street anthems go up the easy route , and become a self paradoy of the genre
all of the club songs on this album fall short of being smash hits, and get old very quickly, the have that dated keyboard sound from 2-3 years ago
most of the soulful tracks here , where akon goes out on a limb to find himself, sounds ...forced and overdone, very cliched topics , no real personality to the tracks....which wouldn't be as bad if he made these songs his OWN, instead they sound ameturish like he's imitating keith sweat or ginuwine which makes you think wow i've heard this done before
sexual songs- this is what really hold this album back. maybe i'm just spoiled from listening to jodeci all my life and growing up with marvin gaye and all the classics from the 60's and 70's but i almost want to laugh at how hard akon tries to 'allure' or set the mood, these sogns would make my dick softer than yogurt if a girl played this to set the mood
You are crazy for that rating. I can see why you give Lonely 2.5/5, but Ghetto 3/5?? Whatever it is you're using, I want it!
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I don't have an obsession with McDonalds. Matter of fact, I can't stand that place. I still laugh at the fact that you're making a career out McDonalds though. Got promoted to Shift Leader and shit and now you think you're banking in money. LMAO @ Your predictable hate-filled review. It's all good. You're still dodging the fact that you can't call his street tracks Pop. Which is what it's about, not about your uneducated opinion on dudes album.
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I don't have an obsession with McDonalds. Matter of fact, I can't stand that place. I still laugh at the fact that you're making a career out McDonalds though. Got promoted to Shift Leader and shit and now you think you're banking in money. LMAO @ Your predictable hate-filled review. It's all good. You're still dodging the fact that you can't call his street tracks Pop. Which is what it's about, not about your uneducated opinion on dudes album.
there ya go again tit-a-saurus, talking about mc donald's again, hungry? if you don't like mc donald's i KNOW FOR A FACT you're loving some fast food resturant, i bet you could feed a v illage in india with one chesticle ,lol. u give pam anderson a run for her money with those speed bags. i left mc donald's a long while ago,lol i make over 20 dollars an hour running the electronics department and music and movies department at target , arn't you the one who's a janitor at a hospitol? "titty boy we need you to clean up mr. johnson's bed sheets he just squirted a gallon of shit everywhere"
-i'll still say it, akon is pop that all he is worth, he using preconceived formuals to sell his album, that's what n'sync and backstreet boys did....i refuse to call him a street artist who like NIK said is only really known by casual music fans as that guy who sang lonely :-* extreme were a metal band from the 80's but what song are they known for?? "more than words'...pop :P
-i know YOU"RE not calling me uneducated about music,lol . go get your lil jon and lil wayne cd's you overgrown lil boy, i'll school you on music son
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what's your obsession with mc donald's tit master delux? are you THAT hungry all the time?
what'd you want me to do? lol do you want an in depth review of his lame album
artist: akon
album: trouble
1. locked up- 2.5/5- annoying radio single , that sounds dated when listening back on it, tries to be dramatic, but falls short, gets boring, beat sounds like something off a whack g unit song
2. trouble- 2/5- skippable song, whack begining, tedious meat of the song and hook gets old quick, sounds like i've heard this song before a couple million times, weird beat
3. bananza- 2/5- one of those songs that those slutty 'club' girls listen to , whack hook, forgettable song, anoying beat again that reminds me of one of those songs that a fat 'party' gril would lsiten to drunk and like
4. gangsa-1.5/5- wow again an anoying song that sounds dated when listening back on it, again why have i heard this song some where else a million times over? average beat at best, song is too long
5. ghetto- 3/5- not that great of an 'anthm' , dated sound and overdone subject matter, the beat is very simplistic and not that catchy and very uninspired
6. pot of gold-2/5- one of those songs you hear the first couple of seconds and skip, listening through it is like work, the subject matter is blah, and the hook is real poppy n'syn-ish even, beat is very simplistic and doesn't even acclompish in being catchy
7. show out-2/5- this song is ok at first but when listening to the hook over and over again it gets old quick, again , you can almost picture yourself in the car with a girl going to a club or party 2 years ago and maybe feeling it a lttle bit but , to enoy it now you'd need some good weed, beat is ok but too snthasized
8. lonely-2.5/5- wow another cheese fest , very simple uninspired beat , and the hook gets old quik
9. when the times right-1.5/5- this song is jsut too unnatural, the emotion he tries to covey here sounds too forced
10. journey-2/5- a song that you can't wait for it to be over, again another song that is too long for the quality it is, very tedious. and damn it akon ,again, why have i hread this song done before, but better? beat is very weird too , the drumline doesn't really match the spee of the other stuff going on in the beat IMO i can't put my finger on it but it's weird
11. don't let up- 2.5/5another song that is very tedious to listen to, cheesy beat , again i'm reapeating myself here but the hook gets old quick
12. easy road- 3/5- one of the better songs on the album, the beat is done better, there is some catchiness to it, and unlike 98% of the rest of the album the beat isn't THAT dated, not yet, at least. voice is still annoying but at least i havn't heard these lyrics 2 million times before from someone else who did it better.
overall
the street songs , although you can tell he tires , you can't help but think , wow i've heard this story before....i wouldn't care if he chose to sing about the streets and the shit that goes on, but he doesn't make anytrack his own, the topics sound very broad...almost any white suburban kid could tell this story from listening to old rap records, tell us something new, i KNOW there's stuff that goes on in the street that HASN"T been touched yet.....most of the street anthems go up the easy route , and become a self paradoy of the genre
all of the club songs on this album fall short of being smash hits, and get old very quickly, the have that dated keyboard sound from 2-3 years ago
most of the soulful tracks here , where akon goes out on a limb to find himself, sounds ...forced and overdone, very cliched topics , no real personality to the tracks....which wouldn't be as bad if he made these songs his OWN, instead they sound ameturish like he's imitating keith sweat or ginuwine which makes you think wow i've heard this done before
sexual songs- this is what really hold this album back. maybe i'm just spoiled from listening to jodeci all my life and growing up with marvin gaye and all the classics from the 60's and 70's but i almost want to laugh at how hard akon tries to 'allure' or set the mood, these sogns would make my dick softer than yogurt if a girl played this to set the mood
Whatever it is you're using, I want it!
huh?
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Awww Jakey... You said you supervise magazine racks and read Teeny Mags. LOL. Now you make 20 dollars an hour. Riiiight. No one believes you. LOL @ You being so mad that you can't show a real fact on why this fact is "Pop," so you resort to cheesy bags, but continue to make yourself look stupid.
I'll grab my Lil Wayne CD and bump it proudly. Carter and Carter 2 are some great albums, any HIP HOP HEAD will tell you that (Unless you read otherwise in the Teen Mags???)
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you resort to cheesy bags, but continue to make yourself look stupid.
ha hypocrit ,lol
i'd rather be supervising the placement of teen magazine than cleaning up hiv patients bowl movements
again go listen to your crappy ass music titzar
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yo jake you already lost this argument... not b/c of sgv stating facts b/c a lot of this argument is opinion anyways. But you had to resort to petty personal insults. Insults that arent even funny in the first place. And you still havnt said how the songs sgv posted are poppy.
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Jake loves making stuff up: I was a janitor (By the way, it's not "bowl" movements smart guy, that would be bowel movements. If you're going to clown, clown correctly). Akon is pop. But he can never back any of it up. Now, see me, I use facts... Not cheesy bags. You did/do work at McDonalds. You did say you supervise magazine racks. You look dumb, once again.
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i think that akon is better than nate. nate is old and stale, akon is like a breath of fresh air plus he can make the craziest beats, can nate do that?
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But you had to resort to petty personal insults. Insults that arent even funny in the first place. And you still havnt said how the songs sgv posted are poppy.
1. sgv threw the first personal jab
2. i didn't know i was suppose to be entertaining people, sgv has man boobs and (correct me if i'm wrong sgv) but i remeber him saying he worked as some kind of janitor at a hospital
3.Akon is pop artist:
4. EVERY song on his album is a recycled formula for mainstream attentention, there's no "soul" or personality to most of this album....weather it be akon's or the producers' fault it doesn't matter. every song on this album you can pin point ANOTHER successful single from the past. bands like n'sync to backstreet boys use this formula and it doesn't end with bubble gum pop in the 80's hair metal bands used this formula , and in the 70's many disco and 'soul' singers did this. and ect. you don't have to be justin timberlake to be POP. that is what's called standard POP formula.....that's why Michael , Madonna, and Prince are considered Pop icons because they go outside of this standard and set up their own standards. akon though, all he proved on his album is that he can make lesser version of songs that Jodeci, Boyz II Men, (i hate to mention him) TQ, Ginuwine, and other RandB cats already did . that is a POP standard....name ONE story on akon's album that hasn't already been told . If he's as street as you and sgv say he is he'd be singing about the other stuff that goes on in the street...like i said before there's TONS of stuff that goes on in the street that goes untold,that's why pac was seen as so great. but again like i said every street story told on akon's album is so watered down that i can see a 18 year old suburban white kid writing that song. It is so blatantly obvious that the sole purpose of "trouble" was to sell records and to disappear years later. i will restate what i've been saying in this thread. what has akon done to increase the musical integrity of hip hop and r&B ? nothing.....yeah he can sing but so can clay aiken , until he shows me something outstanding or writes some jams that will mean something 15 years down, he's nothing but a pop artist who puts out songs that have been done before.
i've heard TQ and Tyrese do songs like locked up but done better, pop
i've heard bobby brown do songs like trouble,pop
i've heard post "r. " r. kelly singles like belly dancer, POP
i've heard puffy affiliated tracks like gangsta,POP
who HAVN"T i heard do a song like ghetto, POP
pot of gold seems like a cheap john legend/d'angelo knock,POP
show out , sounds like every other forgetable song on the radio, that choppy synth guitar :P,POP
lonely...hey lets play the puffy card here again :laugh:,POP
again i hear this type of song on the radio ALL the time,POP
max martin would be PROUD that people still feel the need to make this sound ( FYI max martin crafted all those songs by britney, n'sync and backstreet),pop
if kanye got together with max martin ...this would be the product, Pop
easy road- again , sounds like one of those r kelly songs post "i beleive i can fly", i've HEAD THIS SONG BEFORE! it was a pop single by R Kelly 2 years ago...., POP
i gave you a prelude to why akon is a pop artist, then went down the line of every song and why it's pop
some sound like it
some act like it
some TRY to be it
all embody it
but at the end of the day akon's music is an attempt to sound like everything else . i don't mind artists coming out with a pop single or hell even converting to a more accessible sound to co hear with a bigger audience, as long as their albums are done with taste, personality, and of corse talent. but when you make music taht's already been done, it's following down the path of the POP standard , nelly talks about the same subject matter basically and you wouldn't hesitate to call him a pop rapper would you? akon =pop singer
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Jake loves making stuff up: I was a janitor (By the way, it's not "bowl" movements smart guy, that would be bowel movements. If you're going to clown, clown correctly). Akon is pop. But he can never back any of it up. Now, see me, I use facts... Not cheesy bags. You did/do work at McDonalds. You did say you supervise magazine racks. You look dumb, once again.
1. then what do you do. where did you use to work :loopaper:
2. oh god i misspelled a word holy crap :tosser:
3. u don't use cheesy bags? ha reread the last two pages of this thread :loser:
4. yeah i use to work at mc donald's after the record store i worked at went out of business i went to mc donald's in highschool and worked , got promoted and left when i got my 1 year of customer service and managing experience. went to target where i used to that to start at a $17 dollar an hour team lead posision , then after 6 months got promoted to my own department where i make over 20 dollars an hour, the indepths of my job are to recruit workers to work in my department electronics/entertainment where i have 7 team members, that i schedule to work back there with me, i also get to decide what music/movies to put/leave out after the 1.5 months of it being released, supervise what and where other products are put on the floor in my department (i.e magazines :D ), and supervise the signing and labling of the products... after i get my BS in Business Administrations i'll probably be working for an accounting firm where after a few years only doctors and lawyers will be making more than me 8).....again what do you do?
5. i look dumb? ok that's fine, at least i don't look like you , tell me sgv if i squeezed your breasts what percent milk would come out? 1, 2, half and half, whole ? wait nevermind i know the answer to this i'd probably get yogurt
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You are incorrect about the man boobs and the job. I don't tell jokes, only facts. You have old jokes that only you find amusing. Lastly, you're writing novels now... Nobody cares what you have to say anymore. Someone got hurt!!!
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^actually i wrote a friendly novel to tom
but again sgv
what do you do, what did you use to do at the hospital?
posta picture then again, i know you're embarrassed that you looked like a fat backstreet boy in one of those pics but proove me wrong, what do you got to lose buddah?
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Now I sell cell phones at Cingular, get free service, free phones and good money... So I can't complain. At Kaiser, I was supposed to be sending files to Doctors, running reports and such... But I would usually just sit at the computer and go online or listen to music. Got paid well there too.
Jake... Always wanting to see guys. LOL. Are you trying to prove that I'm fat or that I have man boobs? Don't jump around now.
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Bushwick
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Big Justin... Cube... Myself
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My Entourage shirt.
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Pretty sure you'll call this a "Fat Backstreet Boy" flick. So there ya go!
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Did you fuck those bitches? ;D
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Was'nt feelin' dude at first, now I think he's pretty dope. The joint with Styles is slappin' and he makes the new India Irie song more listenable. I like that little steet shit he puts in his lyrics "gun in my draws" and all that (guilty pleasures) picture this- Akon, Nate, Butch cassidy, kokane, Bo Rocc on one piece with Quik or Pharrell on the beat. Not even much hooks just one nigga after the other blastin' the mic. Like "protect your neck" by Wu, but with sangin', ouch!
www.myspace.com/thablaqsinattra
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i think that akon is better than nate. nate is old and stale, akon is like a breath of fresh air plus he can make the craziest beats, can nate do that?
Yea...And the best rapper alive is Lil Wayne. :D
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You have old jokes that only you find amusing.
Let me be the one to shut that statement down...I found his jokes (which were closer to facts anyways) quite hilarious. :-*
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i think that akon is better than nate. nate is old and stale, akon is like a breath of fresh air plus he can make the craziest beats, can nate do that?
Yea...And the best rapper alive is Lil Wayne. :D
on this other forum board im on, ppl really thot Wayne is the best rapper right now lol
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Did you fuck those bitches? ;D
LOL. Those are "working girls"...Anyways, this thread should pretty much be locked...Akon is (in many ways, whether you want to admit it or not) a pop act... Nate Dogg is a legend who basically created a genre on his own...Even the recent shit Nate Dogg has come out with... "I Need A Light", "Black Mercedese", "Mary Jane", "Keep It Gangsta", "MLK", "PYT", "Thugs Get Lonely Too", "Shake That Ass", etc. shit all over pretty much most of what Akon has done hands down...and that's basically 15 years after he came out...That's WAY past anyones prime. It's a disgrace to Nate's legacy to compare the two...That's all that really should be said.
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i think that akon is better than nate. nate is old and stale, akon is like a breath of fresh air plus he can make the craziest beats, can nate do that?
Yea...And the best rapper alive is Lil Wayne. :D
well who is then?
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i think that akon is better than nate. nate is old and stale, akon is like a breath of fresh air plus he can make the craziest beats, can nate do that?
Yea...And the best rapper alive is Lil Wayne. :D
well who is then?
There is no best...The few good ones are special in their own ways. Lil Wayne is a decent rapper. No where near the best rapper alive...PeACe
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1st single from Akons new album. Wouldnt call this pop
http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.de/files/21432930/Akon-Gangsta_Bop.mp3.html
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yeah butch and nate are the only 2 who can make songs a succes with just a single hook, nobody touching them, and certainly not akon, his voice is irritating... :-X
name the last hit butch has been on (i said hit)
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I'm guessing..... "Connected for Life"
ya Butch isn't a big name or anything, I wouldn't compare Butch to Nate at all saying they both make songs a success
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Butch might not be as big as Akon, but he still sounds a lot better...
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Butch might not be as big as Akon, but he still sounds a lot better...
oh I agree
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yeah butch and nate are the only 2 who can make songs a succes with just a single hook, nobody touching them, and certainly not akon, his voice is irritating... :-X
name the last hit butch has been on (i said hit)
Butch got some joints. The ones with Tha Eastsiders, the ones with Westside connection, "We can freak it" with kurrupt. But I agree Butch, Kokane and Bo Rocc need to step their game up, cuz they all got talent.
www.myspace.com/thablaqsinattra
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yeah butch and nate are the only 2 who can make songs a succes with just a single hook, nobody touching them, and certainly not akon, his voice is irritating... :-X
name the last hit butch has been on (i said hit)
Butch got some joints. The ones with Tha Eastsiders, the ones with Westside connection, "We can freak it" with kurrupt. But I agree Butch, Kokane and Bo Rocc need to step their game up, cuz they all got talent.
www.myspace.com/thablaqsinattra
but were they hits?
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We can freak it was'nt a hit? and with Tha Eastsiders and Westside Connection you could say he helped the overall sales of those albums.
www.myspace.com/thablaqsinattra
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Butch has some hits..."Lay Low" as well, and Sly Boogy's biggest hit was "California", which had Butch on the hook...He's not big or anything, but he's got a really laid back style I can definitely feel...PeACe
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dude
honestly this board perfers the westcoast why because this is a westcoast connection board..me personally i gotta say akon nate is a legend dont get me wrong but hes not as good as he use to be...akon is much better these days..and if u guys disagree then 213's album is classic..the west is dead...ras kass and crooked I should move to the east then they'll blow hahahaha peace
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Akon is Pop but the fact remains for every "Pop" Hook/Track he has at least 5-6 Street Hooks/Tracks. If he's Pop, then so is Yukmouth, Bun B, Royce Da 5'9 etc. Of course, when you're a moron, you can't tell the difference between a Frankie J and an Akon.
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Akon is Pop but the fact remains for every "Pop" Hook/Track he has at least 5-6 Street Hooks/Tracks. If he's Pop, then so is Yukmouth, Bun B, Royce Da 5'9 etc. Of course, when you're a moron, you can't tell the difference between a Frankie J and an Akon.
When youre a moron, you cant tell the difference between Royce Da 5-9 and Akon.
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kokane makes better hooks then akon, but not very many ppl know about him.
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"Lonely" -> "Locked Up" "Gangsta" "Trouble" "Can You Believe It" "Hustlers Story"
"Baby I'm Back" -> "Soul Survivor" "Snitch" "Ghetto Story Remix" "New Message"
Common sense. The differences in the styles of music are evident: Hip Hop to R&B, yet, they have the same approach. Street Music with some Club ready/Radio friendly joints on deck to satisfy everyone. Once again, you're a moron.
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"Lonely" -> "Locked Up" "Gangsta" "Trouble" "Can You Believe It" "Hustlers Story"
"Baby I'm Back" -> "Soul Survivor" "Snitch" "Ghetto Story Remix" "New Message"
Common sense. The differences in the styles of music are evident: Hip Hop to R&B, yet, they have the same approach. Street Music with some Club ready/Radio friendly joints on deck to satisfy everyone. Once again, you're a moron.
You're just too dumb to get it. His WHOLE album sounds formulated and synthetic. He's a pop artist. You're just mad because you like him and it makes you feel bad that your taste really is pop...Go to allmusic.com and type his name if you have trouble understanding that your favorite singer is pop. Also, type in Nate Dogg and see if they list pop as one of his genres...End of discussion, anything past this is you trying to make yourself feel better when bumping Akon...PeACe
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kokane makes better hooks then akon, but not very many ppl know about him.
I agree, but I think a lot of people know of Kokane on here...It was almost impossible to know Snoop Dogg and not know him around the time "Tha Last Meal" dropped...
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Simply put you can't respond to the fact that he makes street music so you state your opinion, which is nowhere near a fact, that he's Pop. Fact is he makes more street tracks than Pop and facts don't lie. Only morons lie... Which is what you usually do.
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Simply put you can't respond to the fact that he makes street music so you state your opinion, which is nowhere near a fact, that he's Pop. Fact is he makes more street tracks than Pop and facts don't lie. Only morons lie... Which is what you usually do.
I didn't respond to the fact that he makes street music? Dude, you're a fucking idiot who doesn't read anything...I already said, making street tracks doesn't mean shit. I already pointed out Sisqo, who I'd compare to Akon. Christina Aguilera and J-Lo could make street tracks if they wanted to. Ja Rule was all about street tracks, and he was one of the the biggest pop-rap acts ever. You're just too dumb to get anything...ANYONE can make street tracks if they wanted, Akon is a pop artist...I proved it with evidence, allmusic doesn't lie to make people feel better about what they listen to...PeACe
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I thought it was "End Of Discussion"???
You obviously didn't prove shit cuz you're still at it. Talk about dumb. So someone can make 5 Street tracks for every 1 Pop track and still be considered Pop? So you're saying a dude like Jadakiss would be Pop? Yukmouth? Royce Da 5'9? They all make a majority of Street music, but still have their Pop tracks.
*expected NIK response*
Dude you're fuckin' dumb...you're too retarded...i can't prove my point so I'm just going to call you dumb and retarded cuz thats what I do best...i know that Akon makes a majority of street music...but i hate him so much that i want to consider him pop...leave me alone... PeACe 8)
Btw,
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=11:nw5e8qppbtb4
Genre R&B
Contemporary R&B
Urban
Pop-Rap (They also consider Biggie & BDK apart of this style)
So since Allmusic says Akon is apart of Pop-Rap, he's a Pop artist. You're saying BDK, a Hip Hop legend, is a Pop artist too? Let's hope not. Think twice about who the real moron is.
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I thought it was "End Of Discussion"???
You obviously didn't prove shit cuz you're still at it. Talk about dumb. So someone can make 5 Street tracks for every 1 Pop track and still be considered Pop? So you're saying a dude like Jadakiss would be Pop? Yukmouth? Royce Da 5'9? They all make a majority of Street music, but still have their Pop tracks.
*expected NIK response*
Dude you're fuckin' dumb...you're too retarded...i can't prove my point so I'm just going to call you dumb and retarded cuz thats what I do best...i know that Akon makes a majority of street music...but i hate him so much that i want to consider him pop...leave me alone... PeACe 8)
Btw,
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=11:nw5e8qppbtb4
Genre R&B
Contemporary R&B
Urban
Pop-Rap (They also consider Biggie & BDK apart of this style)
So since Allmusic says Akon is apart of Pop-Rap, he's a Pop artist. You're saying BDK, a Hip Hop legend, is a Pop artist too? Let's hope not. Think twice about who the real moron is.
Nice try. I actually am making points, you're just way too dumb to understand them. Like I said and you chose to disregard, Ja Rule has 5 street tracks for every 1 pop track. He's still considered a pop act in hip-hop...You can't understand shit, you probably have no clue what I'm talking about when I say his sound is formulated and synthetic, you just get confused and start talking about how street he is again...LMAO. Sisqo is listed in the same exact category as Akon on Allmusic. Is Nate Dogg? And the discussion HAS ended a long time ago, now I'm just exposing your dumbness more and more with every post...PeACe
PS. You've done that "expected NIK response" shit WAYYYY too much. That shit is played out and not funny whatsoever. You lost.
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Ja Rule started out that way... But when he blew up, his main focus was chick songs and that's when he lost his fan base. Akon, on the other hand, hasn't went that route. Two different artists... idiot.
Sisqo is also listed in the same category as O.C., Keith Murray, Big Daddy Kane and Biggie. So are you saying they're Pop artists too? LOL. Serious dude... You can't be that dumb... can you?
Bootsy, Zapp, Erykah Badu, Luther Vandross, Mariah Carey, hell even 98 degrees are listed under Urban as well. Since when did Nick Lachey and his brother become Urban? Allmusic merely groups people together... doesn't mean they're always going to be right. But, I guess, once an idiot, always an idiot. You'll never understand that you can't prove your point with horrible "facts."
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Ja Rule started out that way... But when he blew up, his main focus was chick songs and that's when he lost his fan base. Akon, on the other hand, hasn't went that route. Two different artists... idiot.
Ja Rule was still making street tracks left and right when he blew up...Of course they're two different artists, which brings me to my next point VVV
Sisqo is also listed in the same category as O.C., Keith Murray, Big Daddy Kane and Biggie. So are you saying they're Pop artists too?[/b] LOL. Serious dude... You can't be that dumb... can you?
Are you really this stupid? Akon is Pop/R&B...Biggie is Hip-Hop/Pop. How do you even come up with this dumb ass shit? We were talking about Nate Dogg in the first place, who isn't even categorized as any form of pop on Allmusic...Akon, however, is...You lose. Nice attempt at shifting the agument, but that shit don't get passed me, man...
Bootsy, Zapp, Erykah Badu, Luther Vandross, Mariah Carey, hell even 98 degrees are listed under Urban as well. Since when did Nick Lachey and his brother become Urban? Allmusic merely groups people together... doesn't mean they're always going to be right. But, I guess, once an idiot, always an idiot. You'll never understand that you can't prove your point with horrible "facts."
Akon is Pop/R&B. The End.
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Seriously. XXXL can't stand people having an opinion of their own.
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LOL@Still not knowing. You brought up allmusi.com at least know what the labels are. Biggie, BDK, Keith Murray, OC (Of all people) along with Akon are listed as Pop Rap, as opposed to the Pop you are speaking about. So if you want to say that he's in the same category as them, that's not a bad thing. Those guys are/ were great emcees and allmusic says they're pop rap so it must be true.
LOL @ NIK. Always trying to win, but keeps on losing.
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LOL@Still not knowing. You brought up allmusi.com at least know what the labels are. Biggie, BDK, Keith Murray, OC (Of all people) along with Akon are listed as Pop Rap, as opposed to the Pop you are speaking about. So if you want to say that he's in the same category as them, that's not a bad thing. Those guys are/ were great emcees and allmusic says they're pop rap so it must be true.
LOL @ NIK. Always trying to win, but keeps on losing.
They are labeled in that category because they ARE or HAVE BEEN pop rappers at one point in their career or another...But Nate Dogg, he has never EVER held a pop persona, which is why they don't list him in that category...Who's even talking about Biggie? We're talking about Nate Dogg and Akon...Loser, how does it feel to get sonned numerous times in one thread? 8)
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Wow your Hip Hip Pass has just been revoked. You said BDK, OC and Keith are or were Pop?.Were done here. You've proved your stupidity and ignorance more than enough.
Btw, who was bringing up Sisqo? You. So I brought up Biggie (whom happens to be the only name you'll address since you know how dumb you are) as a counter point to you idiotic view. Always trying to play the innocent card.
Using to allmusic.com as a reliable source, after seeing their lists, is like using mtvs best emcees list or ohhla.com's lyrics as one of fact. Only morons follow those. That would be you little guy. What would all your "real heads" that you know say if you told them the man who made word life was pop? They'd probably laugh at you.
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Wow your Hip Hip Pass has just been revoked. You said BDK, OC and Keith are or were Pop?.Were done here. You've proved your stupidity and ignorance more than enough.
Btw, who was bringing up Sisqo? You. So I brought up Biggie (whom happens to be the only name you'll address since you know how dumb you are) as a counter point to you idiotic view. Always trying to play the innocent card.
Using to allmusic.com as a reliable source, after seeing their lists, is like using mtvs best emcees list or ohhla.com's lyrics as one of fact. Only morons follow those. That would be you little guy. What would all your "real heads" that you know say if you told them the man who made word life was pop? They'd probably laugh at you.
First and foremost, don't put words in my mouth. I never said that Big Daddy Kane or Biggie were pop, I just said they came out with stuff that was commercial/popular enough to place them in the rap/pop sub-genre at some point or another. I knew Big Daddy Kane's agent...There was a point in Big Daddy Kane's career where he was rapping on low-budget R&B albums for exposure...Sisqo, I brought up, because he is comparable to Akon...He's a Pop/R&B act, JUST LIKE AKON...The artists you mentioned had nothing to do with what we were discussing (Pop/R&B)...It's Nate Dogg vs. Akon. Quit veering from the subject...AKON = POP = < NATE DOGG. It's still the end... :-*
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well this thread lost its focus
like someone said earlier in the thread - give akon some time and see if he's still a "go-to-guy" for hooks. nate dogg has made hit records with people from every coast for years now. so you can't just compare him to akon who's been on 3-4 hit songs.
but besides that gayass "lonely" track, i dont see akon as a pop artist.
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Not that it matters anymore cuz you just keep looking worse and worse.You labeled Biggie as Hip Hop/ Pop don't go back on something you just wrote. You're so moronic you don't even realize why those names were brought up. You tried to use allmusic as your source to prove Akon was Pop. Those artists were brought up as they were on the same Pop Rap list as A, making them comparable. Yes were talking Nate vs A but you brought up Sisqo so lets remember who veered off the discussion.
Lastly just because someone lays a verse on an R&B album that has nothing to do with them being Pop. BDK has always had the mack persona, rocking an 8 or 16 on an R&B record fits him. You have no knowledge of music whatsoever. Don't try to use allmusic as your defense cuz you obviously haven't looked at the site.
Akon today is much beter than Nate... its time to let it go. You've done nothing but look retarded as usual.
Reply all you want but you will no longer be fortunate enough to get a reply from me in a music thread again. No sense in typing to a moron who has no knowledge of the business. Stick to basketball at least you know a little bit more.
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Now I sell cell phones at Cingular, get free service, free phones and good money... So I can't complain. At Kaiser, I was supposed to be sending files to Doctors, running reports and such... But I would usually just sit at the computer and go online or listen to music. Got paid well there too.
Jake... Always wanting to see guys. LOL. Are you trying to prove that I'm fat or that I have man boobs? Don't jump around now.
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My Entourage shirt.
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Pretty sure you'll call this a "Fat Backstreet Boy" flick. So there ya go!
that shirt in the middle your reppin' looks like it's 3d with all them curves and shit
got milk?lol anyone ever hear the story of the three milk maids
man that last picture reminds me of big boi the dj from LA , lol he always walked around with a sweat rag cuz he was so fat,ha
well at least sgv didn't pussy out this time, i'll give him props, here's ur reward, a nice fresh sandwhich from subway, eat fresh
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Akon is Pop
hey tom
i learned in rhetoric and argumention that "if you can get your opponent to agree with you on the main point of your argument, you have won"
:rock:
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Where's the proof of my man boobs? Pussy out... ha. You were realy feenin' for my pics. That's on some gay shit.
Btw, use the entire sentence now just a partial quote...
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Not that it matters anymore cuz you just keep looking worse and worse.You labeled Biggie as Hip Hop/ Pop don't go back on something you just wrote. You're so moronic you don't even realize why those names were brought up. You tried to use allmusic as your source to prove Akon was Pop. Those artists were brought up as they were on the same Pop Rap list as A, making them comparable. Yes were talking Nate vs A but you brought up Sisqo so lets remember who veered off the discussion.
Lastly just because someone lays a verse on an R&B album that has nothing to do with them being Pop. BDK has always had the mack persona, rocking an 8 or 16 on an R&B record fits him. You have no knowledge of music whatsoever. Don't try to use allmusic as your defense cuz you obviously haven't looked at the site.
Akon today is much beter than Nate... its time to let it go. You've done nothing but look retarded as usual.
Reply all you want but you will no longer be fortunate enough to get a reply from me in a music thread again. No sense in typing to a moron who has no knowledge of the business. Stick to basketball at least you know a little bit more.
You just don't wanna reply anymore cuz you keep sounding like a dumbass...I brought up Sisqo because I compared him to Akon, you moron. Then you felt the need to veer from the subject and start talking about other hip-hop artists labeled under Hip-Hop/Pop, when the subject was R&B/Pop. You lose. Honestly though man, you're just way too music retarded. You can't tell the difference between artists who make music the way they think people wanna hear it and artists who make real music...Akon's shit is formulated and synthetic. I can bet you anything that he went into the studio with the mindset of "I know people out there will eat this shit up"...It sounds fake. I don't like it, and you can't stand that it's my opinion, because you want to feel secure about the bullshit you listen to...Both Jake and I will school you on music. It's pretty self-evident, you've got the taste of a 12 year old girl...PeACe
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Where's the proof of my man boobs? Pussy out... ha. You were realy feenin' for my pics. That's on some gay shit.
Btw, use the entire sentence now just a partial quote...
yeah i want to :tosser: to your pictures loser... ::)
look at the middle picture man it looks like pam ander son is wearing your shirt
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I am sick of hearing Akon period.
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yeah i want to :tosser: to your pictures
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don't flatter yourself fat man
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anyways Akon and nate dogg......yes they both do good hooks, do they sound the same.....hell nah, do they look the same.....nope, would i put them in the same category.........not in your wildest dreams.