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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Eihtball on June 10, 2006, 01:35:16 PM
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The fact that you can't show guns in them anymore. It's all because of that stupid-ass rule B.E.T. came up years ago now, so all rappers now comply with that shit to get rotation. Isn't that shit just retarded, not to mention unrealistic?
A good example of a video that got shafted by this rule was Eazy-E's "Neighborhood Sniper"; BET banned it because it shows Eazy killin niggas with assault rifles and pistols. They said it was too violent for that reason. But why is it that all this degradation of women is allowed in the videos, and yet it's too taboo to show a real gun these days?
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maybe because degrading a woman isnt quite the same thing as shooting and killing a woman
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Most good rappers dont get videos.
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maybe because degrading a woman isnt quite the same thing as shooting and killing a woman
Yeah, but you can't even be seen holding a gun in a video these days.
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Most good rappers dont get videos.
Most good rappers can't even release an album :grumpy:
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the effect off violence in video ain't the same as sex. I seen a lot of acction movies and never shoot a gun in my life, but i seen a lot of gurls who dress and act like what they see on mtv. But this aint gone change, we're fucked and the end is coming
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if you stop and think about it; there was never really a violence issue before rap videos introduced the idea of killing someone with a gun, whereas degrading women has been evident since their creation. in retrospect, rap is really the cause of every territorial problem that we have today, such as the necessity to use force and violence in iraq. it all stems from violence portrayed in rap videos.*please note the sarcasm*
i am with the thread starter, i would not mind seeing a dude or two get shot up in a video. i might actually start watching television again.
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I wouldn't mind seeing most of todays rappers get shot.
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gun violence is bad enough without gangsta videos being programmed into little kids, are you fucking psycho?
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Somebody at BET didn't feel comforable wit guns in music videos, so they banned them. Women are so comformable or used to getting degraded that they don't give a shit how they get portrayed. As soon as somebody started rapping about guns, and caught on, people felt scared/nervous/intimidated. As soon as somebody started rapping about bitches/hoes/sluts and how they treat them, and caught on, women felt some kind of acceptance. Ain't hard to tell that. Look at the female rappers, look what they rap about. Somebody ovbiously was concerned about guns in the videos and complained. The degradation of women shown in videos won't stop cuz ain't none of them complaining. They accept it like that.
I think its a pretty dumb idea to not show guns. On MTV Jams when an old video comes up they show the guns, they show them clear but won't allow it to flash a peek now. :-\ It makes no sense. What they rapping about is bad so showing a gun is bad? They just gonna hear them talking about it in the song. They rap about degrading women and they show that in the video. They get to hear about that and get to see it. ::)
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if you stop and think about it; there was never really a violence issue before rap videos introduced the idea of killing someone with a gun, whereas degrading women has been evident since their creation. in retrospect, rap is really the cause of every territorial problem that we have today, such as the necessity to use force and violence in iraq. it all stems from violence portrayed in rap videos.*please note the sarcasm*
i am with the thread starter, i would not mind seeing a dude or two get shot up in a video. i might actually start watching television again.
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This was the dumbest shit I ever read until I saw the bold part. lol
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Would you much rather see a gun or a chicks ass? I'd much rather see the ass. Then again, I'm a hetero-sexual male who feels no need to vicariously live out a "Gangsta Fantasy" through music or visuals.
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Would you much rather see a gun or a chicks ass? I'd much rather see the ass. Then again, I'm a hetero-sexual male who feels no need to vicariously live out a "Gangsta Fantasy" through music or visuals.
Is there a problem?
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That's what I'm asking you.
Do you have a problem looking at a woman dance damn near naked? Why is this an issue. So they don't want kids looking at dudes getting clapped, big deal. So they don't mind if kids see titties bouncing and ass smackin', big deal. At the end of the day, I'm not complaining cuz I seen some ass and titties but no guns. You wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something.
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That's what I'm asking you.
Do you have a problem looking at a woman dance damn near naked? Why is this an issue. So they don't want kids looking at dudes getting clapped, big deal. So they don't mind if kids see titties bouncing and ass smackin', big deal. At the end of the day, I'm not complaining cuz I seen some ass and titties but no guns. You wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something.
I don't exactly consider softcore porn or gun violence being featured in rap videos to be constructive to society. But at the same time, I just think it's ludicrous that one is allowed and the other is not when rap lyrics regularly discuss both bitches and choppers. And yeah, personally, I did enjoy rap videos a lot more when they featured shootouts and things of that nature...why else would I listen to gangsta rap except to engage in vicarious thrill-seeking? Isn't that why we all listen to it?
And is it really necesary for you to come at me with gay-baiting comments? Also, you tell me "wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something"? Maybe I should say, you wanna see naked chicks, go watch porn.
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it must suck to be as stupid as you
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it must suck to be as stupid as you
Elaborate.
EDIT: Oh, wait, I forgot, you're that cat who starts a new topic in G-Spot every time you reach a certain post count, and who has a tendency to make random spam comments where you take shots at other people. Which means I've already stopped giving a fuck about you.
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That's what I'm asking you.
Do you have a problem looking at a woman dance damn near naked? Why is this an issue. So they don't want kids looking at dudes getting clapped, big deal. So they don't mind if kids see titties bouncing and ass smackin', big deal. At the end of the day, I'm not complaining cuz I seen some ass and titties but no guns. You wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something.
I don't exactly consider softcore porn or gun violence being featured in rap videos to be constructive to society. But at the same time, I just think it's ludicrous that one is allowed and the other is not when rap lyrics regularly discuss both bitches and choppers. And yeah, personally, I did enjoy rap videos a lot more when they featured shootouts and things of that nature...why else would I listen to gangsta rap except to engage in vicarious thrill-seeking? Isn't that why we all listen to it?
And is it really necesary for you to come at me with gay-baiting comments? Also, you tell me "wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something"? Maybe I should say, you wanna see naked chicks, go watch porn.
You're arguing with someone who defends the Laffy Taffy song. I suggest you just ignore him.
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^^^^^ :o ;D :P ::) ::)
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That's what I'm asking you.
Do you have a problem looking at a woman dance damn near naked? Why is this an issue. So they don't want kids looking at dudes getting clapped, big deal. So they don't mind if kids see titties bouncing and ass smackin', big deal. At the end of the day, I'm not complaining cuz I seen some ass and titties but no guns. You wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something.
I don't exactly consider softcore porn or gun violence being featured in rap videos to be constructive to society. But at the same time, I just think it's ludicrous that one is allowed and the other is not when rap lyrics regularly discuss both bitches and choppers. And yeah, personally, I did enjoy rap videos a lot more when they featured shootouts and things of that nature...why else would I listen to gangsta rap except to engage in vicarious thrill-seeking? Isn't that why we all listen to it?
And is it really necesary for you to come at me with gay-baiting comments? Also, you tell me "wanna see guns go watch Scarface or something"? Maybe I should say, you wanna see naked chicks, go watch porn.
You're arguing with someone who defends the Laffy Taffy song. I suggest you just ignore him.
Hei man hook me up with that song ! for a long time I keep hearing about it, but never heard it
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wow i forgot about this thread, youre fuckin stupid man. women dancing and having fun is in no way connected with killing people with a gun. u can try and make the connection all you want. youre still wrong.
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Women LIKE to be looked at in that kind of way. It's not degrading to them. It's the ones that don't have the looks who get jealous and might not like it, but most women who got the looks like it.
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wow i forgot about this thread, youre fuckin stupid man. women dancing and having fun is in no way connected with killing people with a gun. u can try and make the connection all you want. youre still wrong.
Where did I ever say it was connected? This is about guns in videos, not women in videos.
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lol a girl dancing half naked is waaay different then killing somebody
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lol a girl dancing half naked is waaay different then killing somebody
I ain't even saying killing anyone. You can't even show a gun at all.
I'm getting sick of repeating myself.
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ya u should delete this thread
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ya u should delete this thread
Why? Because everyone has used it as an opportunity to bash me?
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lol a girl dancing half naked is waaay different then killing somebody
It's more than just the act of a girl dancing or a rapper showing a gun.. it's about the message and what it represents that is interpreted by today's youth in a negative way that is the problem..
there is a very big difference between dancing and being portrayed as a whore.
it's all about what it can lead to.. get a youngster who looks up to a rapper and sees it as being "cool" to have a gun.. so they get one.. all of a sudden they have the potential to murder someone..
and it isn't cut and dry.. i know the majority of people who listen to hip hop (or play video games, or watch movies etc. etc.) know better than to emulate what they hear/see.. but you can't deny that exposure to such things can have a very negative effect on them.
all i need to do is go to my local shopping mall and look at the way teenage kids are treating their female friends.. and the way these females ALLOW themselves to be treated.. it's disgusting..
the youth are impressionable.. there is no need to expose them to violence or mysoginy unnecessarily..
i'd much rather listen to a great story told through a rap song than some "look how much cash/cars/bitches i've got" garbage..
at the end of the day you have to look at how easily accessible this material is to kids these days.. and if you don't have a problem with children being exposed unnecessarily to violence or degrading women, then there is something very wrong with you.