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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Quadruple OG on June 18, 2006, 06:37:04 PM
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I downloaded the album, and despite what people want to believe, this album will dissapoint. At the MOST I'd give this cd a 2/5...it is a major dissapointment, especially since the track that wcrydaz posted would probably have been one of, if not, the best song on the album.
There are two problems with "Cali iz Active". One was having Paul Wall, David Banner, and Puffy on this cd. Their styles contrast way too much with the Daz/Kurupt chemistry. If they had verses from Bad Azz, Warren G, Soopafly, and a couple people from the Cali iz Active video shoot (Too Short, WC, DJ Quik, Roscoe, Xzibit, and MC Eiht come to mind), instead of trying to go mainstream, it'd be a better album.
The second problem, and the biggest one with this album is the same problem that plagued the 213 album...the production wasn't kept in house. The tracks Soopafly produced ("Throwin up da C", "Slow your roll", and "Keepin' it Gangsta") are the highlights of this album. Battlecat must have used beats he pulled out of the trash because besides "Cali iz active", his beats are garbage...he definately did not bring his A game (this case, he didn't bring his B, C, or D game either). If you have Daz, Soopafly, and Warren G produce the bulk of this album (say 4 songs each) and have Dre, Scott Storch, Jazze Pha, and Battlecat produce a song each, then we'd have the classic album that many people on here feel Cali iz Active should have been.
On a side note, I'm convinced that Snoop must have something on Soopafly for him to be stuck as Snoop's caddy. Soopafly has been held back waaaaaay too long, he's too talented to be treated like he has been.
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only thing I can say is that the best Rapper from the dogg pound is Lady Of Rage...
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only thing I can say is that the best Rapper from the dogg pound is Lady Of Rage...
By far, it's not even close.
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only thing I can say is that the best Rapper from the dogg pound is Lady Of Rage...
By far, it's not even close.
She's the only one that IMO hasn't fallen off since the demise of Death Row
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only thing I can say is that the best Rapper from the dogg pound is Lady Of Rage...
By far, it's not even close.
She's the only one that IMO hasn't fallen off since the demise of Death Row
Yup Sad but true . But when Kurupt was bacc with Suge every1 was sayn "Kurupt iz wack he fell off" But now that him and Dpg Kissed and made up every1 bacc on hizz dicc..
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i agree with the thread starter, everything he said is true..soopafly had the best beats on the album
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So you guys are saying it is not better than Tha Streetz and RR&GB like Justin said? ??? ;)
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i downloaded this shit too its not that great. every time i get something daz/kurupt/dogg pound related they always end up saying "oh this isn't the real thing, wait for our NEXT project..." i'm tired of believing that shit.
the thing that is frustrating is that kurupt does still have it... he RIPPED some verses within the past 2-3 years.
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So far, my favorite tracks are "Throwin Up Da C", "Don't Sweat It", "Faknass Hoes", "Face 2 Face", "Keepin It Gangsta", & "Hard On A Hoe", those tracks stood out to me but I'm feelin' the other tracks too...the only one I don't listen to that much is "She Likes Dat", I didn't get into that one that much but my opinion might change...& I'm still going to buy the DPG album when it drops...
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So you guys are saying it is not better than Tha Streetz and RR&GB like Justin said? ??? ;)
nope, not even close to approaching those albums
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this isnt exactly a shocker... its not like (at least to me) it could have been a straight classic pulled out of kurupt and daz's asses, especially after none of their recent releases have been near classic. the best recent one was the dogg pound gangsta LP, and that came out a minute and a half ago. who knows though, i havent heard it, maybe its aight. or maybe not.
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This is 213 Part 2.
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I downloaded the album, and despite what people want to believe, this album will dissapoint. At the MOST I'd give this cd a 2/5...it is a major dissapointment, especially since the track that wcrydaz posted would probably have been one of, if not, the best song on the album.
There are two problems with "Cali iz Active". One was having Paul Wall, David Banner, and Puffy on this cd. Their styles contrast way too much with the Daz/Kurupt chemistry. If they had verses from Bad Azz, Warren G, Soopafly, and a couple people from the Cali iz Active video shoot (Too Short, WC, DJ Quik, Roscoe, Xzibit, and MC Eiht come to mind), instead of trying to go mainstream, it'd be a better album.
The second problem, and the biggest one with this album is the same problem that plagued the 213 album...the production wasn't kept in house. The tracks Soopafly produced ("Throwin up da C", "Slow your roll", and "Keepin' it Gangsta") are the highlights of this album. Battlecat must have used beats he pulled out of the trash because besides "Cali iz active", his beats are garbage...he definately did not bring his A game (this case, he didn't bring his B, C, or D game either). If you have Daz, Soopafly, and Warren G produce the bulk of this album (say 4 songs each) and have Dre, Scott Storch, Jazze Pha, and Battlecat produce a song each, then we'd have the classic album that many people on here feel Cali iz Active should have been.
On a side note, I'm convinced that Snoop must have something on Soopafly for him to be stuck as Snoop's caddy. Soopafly has been held back waaaaaay too long, he's too talented to be treated like he has been.
i could already tell this album was wack jus by listening to the song "cali iz active". There Has only been maybe 2 albums after dogg food, that i would consider a "good" album.
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I rate it 5/10....I'm not impressed by this album at all.......they have a couple of good tracks but it doesn't have a lot of replay value IMO. I thinks Kurupt solo will be better.
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ur all prolly just hating on it cause u wanna act cool since u got it early.
give it more than half a listen. sometimes it takes a few spins to appreciate
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"Throwin Up Da C" is pretty god damn good
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i cant see it being weak, DIllinger n Gotti 2 was a dope album and that was independent. but that had DAZ on the beats so ya know, but i will be buying this shit so it will be all good
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This is 213 Part 2.
213 album is actually pretty good for the most part
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Wow I was expecting this album to be bad but it was much, much worse than I could of ever expected. It's really sad cause these guys used to be so tite, hell Dillinger and Gotti 2 was horrible and it was significantly better than this. On Cali iz Active there are only 3 or 4 tracks that are decent at best and the rest is horrible. The track with Diddy was torture to the ears and it had maybe the worst verse I have ever heard courtesy of Kurupt. Young Gotti is absolutely horrible on the album its a huge dissapointment, ever since the reunion they havnt dropped nething remotely tight, damn shame.
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Im gonna wait till the shit drop next tuesday and judge for myself...too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
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Its sad that most of you probably didnt even listen to the whole album,yall probably popped in the cd went thru a few tracks, decided it wasnt as tight as Dogg Food, and then made the premature decision that this cd succs....damn shame.... :grumpy:
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Wow I was expecting this album to be bad but it was much, much worse than I could of ever expected. It's really sad cause these guys used to be so tite, hell Dillinger and Gotti 2 was horrible and it was significantly better than this. On Cali iz Active there are only 3 or 4 tracks that are decent at best and the rest is horrible. The track with Diddy was torture to the ears and it had maybe the worst verse I have ever heard courtesy of Kurupt. Young Gotti is absolutely horrible on the album its a huge dissapointment, ever since the reunion they havnt dropped nething remotely tight, damn shame.
Hands down you gotta be the biggest Kurupt hater i have ever seen for someone who 'claims' to be such a huge Kurupt fan.....
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Its sad that most of you probably didnt even listen to the whole album,yall probably popped in the cd went thru a few tracks, decided it wasnt as tight as Dogg Food, and then made the premature decision that this cd succs....damn shame.... :grumpy:
Yeah Fuckin Right, I listened to every single horrible track, I thought with all the weed I smoked this album would sound better but nope out of 16 tracks which I listened to all of them only 3 or 4 tracks were even decent, pathetic album by my favorite rap group ever which has fallen off harder than anyone could ever imagined :'(
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Im gonna wait till the shit drop next tuesday and judge for myself...too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
BUY THAT SHIT, just as i WILL
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Wow no one was really talking shit about the album, just giving their opinions and these other people act like their fucken families were offended.
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too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
Co-Sign to tha fullest....that's all these muthafuckas on here do. Whine day in day out about who's fallen off. They want tha artists to make albums like they did 10 and 15 years ago but when an artist doesn't change his formula he's been usin' tha past 10 years it's still a problem. 98% of these muthafuckas on here are real feminine, always asking for something then when it come along they don't like it.
Tha East Coast ain't tha one keeping down tha West, tha west Coast fans are tha ones keeping down tha West.
I'm not sayin' buy wack shit just because it's ya favorite artists all i'm sayin' is stop all tha moaning and whinin' about simple shit.......
*looks at negativity of my Karma go up rapidly* :D
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too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
Co-Sign to tha fullest....that's all these muthafuckas on here do. Whine day in day out about who's fallen off. They want tha artists to make albums like they did 10 and 15 years ago but when an artist doesn't change his formula he's been usin' tha past 10 years it's still a problem. 98% of these muthafuckas on here are real feminine, always asking for something then when it come along they don't like it.
Tha East Coast ain't tha one keeping down tha West, tha west Coast fans are tha ones keeping down tha West.
I'm not sayin' buy wack shit just because it's ya favorite artists all i'm sayin' is stop all tha moaning and whinin' about simple shit.......
*looks at negativity of my Karma go up rapidly* :D
I think certain guys have fell off, but i think thats some of the realest shit ive ever read on here...Good Point. There are alot of haters on these forums. Some of these dudes expect rappers to be perfect.
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when I heard about the record i thought it was gunna be the shit but the only track ive felt that i've heard was Cali Iz Active and the alchemist scrap.. but i'll probably download this now instead of buyin it
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when I heard about the record i thought it was gunna be the shit but the only track ive felt that i've heard was Cali Iz Active and the alchemist scrap.. but i'll probably download this now instead of buyin it
I also expected this album to be a classic after hearing Cali iz Active but after i found out tha Diddy, Paul Wall & David Banner were gonna be on it i had my doubts. Honestly speaking that track witt Diddy is real shit, i can't stand hearing that nigga shout Bad Boy like 100 times on tha track. he talks all over tha damn track like he's DJ Skee, Big Mike or some other DJ >:(
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WHY THE TRACKLIST SAYS ICE CUBE BUT IN THE SONG IT'S ALL GOOD THERE IS NO ICE CUBE?
??? ??? ???
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^ and they got dpg all over their avatars. lmao.. ;D
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WHY THE TRACKLIST SAYS ICE CUBE BUT IN THE SONG IT'S ALL GOOD THERE IS NO ICE CUBE?
??? ??? ???
His voice is looped on the chorus.
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Album is wack, simple as that.. I wasn't holding my breath though, Daz and Kurupt fell off hard for a while, is it so difficult to understand ??
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Wow, I cant belive people are actually surprised that this turned out to be a wack album. Where the fuck have you been for the past 5 years ???
And lol at people complaining about Diddy, Paul Wall and David Banner being on the album. Those are actually the highlights of the LP.
Good things about this album:
Snoop is ripping tracks lately and this proves us right. The tracks with non DPG artists sound dope, refreshing and not stuck in that whole Gfunk era. Soopaflys beat for Slow Your Roll. Lady Of Rage
Bad things:
Except for Cali Iz Active weak production from Battlecat. Some no name weak ass producers bringing weak production to the table. Daz and Kurupt. While Dazs lyrics have never been outstanding he at least has a good flow. Kurupt is a DISASTER. Another wack thing is Cube and Nate only having 3 lines.
The best track is definetly that Alchemist track. Its great :o
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Wow, I cant belive people are actually surprised that this turned out to be a wack album. Where the fuck have you been for the past 5 years ???
And lol at people complaining about Diddy, Paul Wall and David Banner being on the album. Those are actually the highlights of the LP.
Good things about this album:
Snoop is ripping tracks lately and this proves us right. The tracks with non DPG artists sound dope, refreshing and not stuck in that whole Gfunk era. Soopaflys beat for Slow Your Roll. Lady Of Rage
Bad things:
Except for Cali Iz Active weak production from Battlecat. Some no name weak ass producers bringing weak production to the table. Daz and Kurupt. While Dazs lyrics have never been outstanding he at least has a good flow. Kurupt is a DISASTER. Another wack thing is Cube and Nate only having 3 lines.
The best track is definetly that Alchemist track. Its great :o
Yeah Banner and Paul Wall came alright but Diddy was just as bad as daz and kurupt on this album. one of the worst albums i have ever heard
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it's a good album not a classic but a good album
some idiot here tell us that this album was like "Dogg Food" , well say to this man that it'z a simply MORON
that's all
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So absolutaly nobody is feeling this album? ::)
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Not so bad... But not as good as expected. I don't understand why that Alchemist track isn't on that album ??? ... cause it's one of the best track!! Not really feeling the track with Paull Wall. I also want more Nate Dogg and Cube. One track with Warren G or Quik should have been nice too. Nice album and some good tracks for this summer but not a classic.
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this album is pretty good. paull wall, david banner tracks are all garbage but theres at least 10 good songs on it.
Quit dickryding each others opinions about it being wack. most of u havn't even listened to it fully. and dont nobody wants to hear warren g & bad azz rap anymore. its 2006 get over it.
That Diddy Song is fire tho.
Fuck all u dickryding faggots who cant come up with there own opinion.
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the song with puffy is hot ?ahahahahahahah fuck that
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meh exactly wot i expected.
½ decent tracks:
06-tha_dogg_pound-slow_your_roll_(prod._by_soopafly)-exe
08-tha_dogg_pound-keepin_it_gangsta_feat._lady_of_rage_(prod._by_soopafly)-exe
14-tha_dogg_pound-throwin_up_da_c_(prod._by_soopafly)-exe
15-tha_dogg_pound-face_2_face_(prod._by_battlecat)-exe
album highlights:
soopafly production, snoop;s verses
lol @ printing "Featuring Nate Dogg & Ice Cube" on the back cover
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wats better the 213 album or this new dogg pound album ..
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wats better the 213 album or this new dogg pound album ..
213
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I read on another board saying that Daz said the real album is gonna come out next year with Snoop on it. He alsop said he saved the best for later. Can it be confirmed?
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I read on another board saying that Daz said the real album is gonna come out next year with Snoop on it. He alsop said he saved the best for later. Can it be confirmed?
I think he said that around the time of Dillinger & Young Gotti 2 release so he was most probably talking about Cali iz Active.
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the sad thing is NO FEAT or ICE CUBE and Nate Dogg while on conver theyr names are on it
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I thought it was a pretty good album. I didn't expect much of it. After two spins I think the Soopafly tracks are the best tracks on the album.
but... Cali Iz Active > The Hard Way... I know that much
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wats better the 213 album or this new dogg pound album ..
213
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Wow no one was really talking shit about the album, just giving their opinions and these other people act like their fucken families were offended.
lol, for real.I haven't heard the album but I won't be surprised if its dissapointing.
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Someone said Ice cube does not even rap a rhyme on the song he's meant to be featured on.
Just looping his voice and then saying he's featured on the song.
Whats up with that?
Surely they could of got him to spit a rhyme.
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too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
Co-Sign to tha fullest....that's all these muthafuckas on here do. Whine day in day out about who's fallen off. They want tha artists to make albums like they did 10 and 15 years ago but when an artist doesn't change his formula he's been usin' tha past 10 years it's still a problem. 98% of these muthafuckas on here are real feminine, always asking for something then when it come along they don't like it.
Tha East Coast ain't tha one keeping down tha West, tha west Coast fans are tha ones keeping down tha West.
I'm not sayin' buy wack shit just because it's ya favorite artists all i'm sayin' is stop all tha moaning and whinin' about simple shit.......
*looks at negativity of my Karma go up rapidly* :D
I think certain guys have fell off, but i think thats some of the realest shit ive ever read on here...Good Point. There are alot of haters on these forums. Some of these dudes expect rappers to be perfect.
exactly im not going to take into account all these reviews, there are some like the thread starter tht maybe this is how they feel bout the album but there are some tht just quote wack and thts the way they think after 1 spin. i hated the diddy track the first time i heard but after really listening to it apart from kurupts verse its pretty good, especially snoops verse and daz. i do like the paul wall tracc and the last one produced by jazze pha. they sound good. also david banner is a pretty damn good producer im lookin forward to hearing tht.
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I dont know what you call this shit in Denmark, Europe or Germany but in Pomona, California we call this shiit bangin. No its not an absolute heater but it has PLENTY of cuts you can bang and appreciate. Niggaz mad cuz they favorite artist aint spit a verse like they did in 94 is on some stupidity. Yeah its some tracks thats not up to snuff (battlecat joints) but besides that its bangin. The features of Paul Wall, Banner and Diddy that suckaz was complainin about are the highlights of the album and niggaz got they panties in a bunch about it. I dont know what yall was expectin to hear but im happy with it. I feel sorry for anybody expectin some dogg food type material without Daz on the boards.
We know why Daz wasnt on the boards, We know why Warren G wasnt on the boards with 213. Labels dont wanna pay niiggaz to rap AND produce. Labels say hey its YOUR project we are already paying you to rap, we AINT paying you to produce its simple as that. We know this shiit woulda been heat with Daz production on it. Even without it gets a 7/10.
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I havnt heard the new DPG yet but the 213 record is a chillin ass cd....Its still gets good rotation in my player....All you guys who are waiting for another Death Row records release need to wake the fuck up and get with the program.
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There will never be another track like "Stranded On Deathrow",,,,that shit is 14 years old man
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too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
Co-Sign to tha fullest....that's all these muthafuckas on here do. Whine day in day out about who's fallen off. They want tha artists to make albums like they did 10 and 15 years ago but when an artist doesn't change his formula he's been usin' tha past 10 years it's still a problem. 98% of these muthafuckas on here are real feminine, always asking for something then when it come along they don't like it.
Tha East Coast ain't tha one keeping down tha West, tha west Coast fans are tha ones keeping down tha West.
I'm not sayin' buy wack shit just because it's ya favorite artists all i'm sayin' is stop all tha moaning and whinin' about simple shit.......
*looks at negativity of my Karma go up rapidly* :D
Realest muthafuckin talk in this thread....thats why i dont post much on this bitch...and FYI this is still THE BEST ALBUM OUTTA THE WEST THIS YEAR!!!!
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im listenin to it right now and it doesnt sound that bad to me....I just finsished Slow your Roll and now this Heavywights track is off the hook...
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too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
Co-Sign to tha fullest....that's all these muthafuckas on here do. Whine day in day out about who's fallen off. They want tha artists to make albums like they did 10 and 15 years ago but when an artist doesn't change his formula he's been usin' tha past 10 years it's still a problem. 98% of these muthafuckas on here are real feminine, always asking for something then when it come along they don't like it.
Tha East Coast ain't tha one keeping down tha West, tha west Coast fans are tha ones keeping down tha West.
I'm not sayin' buy wack shit just because it's ya favorite artists all i'm sayin' is stop all tha moaning and whinin' about simple shit.......
*looks at negativity of my Karma go up rapidly* :D
real spit right here.....o btw i havent checked out the cd yet...seein how all the replies are negative i'm gonna burn it...
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Skimmed through the album, and I really dont dig many of the beats....Im feelin Alchemists song alot more than this shit, I cant say im dissapointed with this as I never built up my hopes anyway....Diggin a handful of songs though..I wish battlecat laced more bangers on this!
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too many haters on this forum for me to take anyones opinion seriously.... :nawty:
Co-Sign to tha fullest....that's all these muthafuckas on here do. Whine day in day out about who's fallen off. They want tha artists to make albums like they did 10 and 15 years ago but when an artist doesn't change his formula he's been usin' tha past 10 years it's still a problem. 98% of these muthafuckas on here are real feminine, always asking for something then when it come along they don't like it.
Tha East Coast ain't tha one keeping down tha West, tha west Coast fans are tha ones keeping down tha West.
I'm not sayin' buy wack shit just because it's ya favorite artists all i'm sayin' is stop all tha moaning and whinin' about simple shit.......
*looks at negativity of my Karma go up rapidly* :D
When I wrote what I wrote, I wasn't comparing "Cali iz active" to "Dogg Food" because all three are nowhere near that skill level, not to mention it was 10 years ago. The only thing that saves this album is Soopafly. Battlecat gave Tha Dogg Pound some of the worst beats he's ever done and their lyrics sound forced on other tracks. If you take "Cali iz Active" for what it is, this album is flat out trash.
West coast fans aren't keeping the west down, it's artists that release trash like this and expect their fans to like it and buy it because it has the names "Snoop Dogg", "213", or "Tha Dogg Pound" on the cover.
Wow no one was really talking shit about the album, just giving their opinions and these other people act like their fucken families were offended.
Lil' History lesson about this board...95% of the members will claim that Snoop Dogg and Daz Dillinger are extended members of their families and will defend them (and whatever they release) until they are 6 Feet Deep.
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I thought the Battlecat tracks and the Soopafly joints were the highlights!
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Realest muthafuckin talk in this thread....thats why i dont post much on this bitch...and FYI this is still THE BEST ALBUM OUTTA THE WEST THIS YEAR!!!!
I see why you have tyrone biggums in your sig because you must be a crackhead saying shit like that.......LOL.....but to each his own.
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I thought the Battlecat track and the Soopafly joints were the highlights!
"Cali iz active" was the only decent beat Battlecat produced on the album. The rest of his shit was boring and should have not made the final cut.
Hey Nima, next time you interview Soopafly, ask him how does it feel to be held back by Snoop Dogg for a decade. He's too talented a producer to be treated the way he has been. Dude should be mentioned with Dre and Quik but Snoop has a stranglehold over him.
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ive listened to a few tracks now and they dont sound too bad..
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On second listen this shit gets a 8.5/10 this shiit iz bangin. Tha Fucc are yall listenin to. Battlecat shit was up to snuff as they have been in the past but they arent as bad ass niggaz make em out to be.
Stop Lyin
Face To Face
Its All Good
Them Joints is bangin. Not the usual battlecat beats ala G'd up but they nice. And to be honest i didnt like Stop Lyin or Face To Face on first listen but they are dope in there own right. I can see how this cd could be wack to niggaz that played out Cali Iz Active, Sittin on 23z, and the other joints that were already released. Dont sleep on this album though. I dont see how a niigga could listen to this completey and not like it.
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Can somebody pm me the u know what to this....
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I like the album dident expect nothin spectacular so im surprised its actually pretty good only 2 or 3 tracks im not feelin .To me album is way better then new cube one or the 213 album
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There are two problems with "Cali iz Active". One was having Paul Wall, David Banner, and Puffy on this cd. Their styles contrast way too much with the Daz/Kurupt chemistry. If they had verses from Bad Azz, Warren G, Soopafly, and a couple people from the Cali iz Active video shoot (Too Short, WC, DJ Quik, Roscoe, Xzibit, and MC Eiht come to mind), instead of trying to go mainstream, it'd be a better album.
The second problem, and the biggest one with this album is the same problem that plagued the 213 album...the production wasn't kept in house. The tracks Soopafly produced ("Throwin up da C", "Slow your roll", and "Keepin' it Gangsta") are the highlights of this album. Battlecat must have used beats he pulled out of the trash because besides "Cali iz active", his beats are garbage...he definately did not bring his A game (this case, he didn't bring his B, C, or D game either). If you have Daz, Soopafly, and Warren G produce the bulk of this album (say 4 songs each) and have Dre, Scott Storch, Jazze Pha, and Battlecat produce a song each, then we'd have the classic album that many people on here feel Cali iz Active should have been.
This, unfortunately, is a typical reminder of why West Coast fans are some of the most anti-progressive and overly-critical cats in all of hip-hop.
I agree that this album is quite dissappointing and that Daz and Kurupt are pretty bad, plus they sound like shit trying to rap over contemporary production by Swizz Beatz and David Banner. It's an attempt at going mainstream that simply sounds forced and results in poor music. If Kurupt and Daz could sound good doing a song with P. Diddy like Snoop can, I'd be all for it, but they can't. The fact is, both Kurupt and Daz are washed-up niggas who have zero marketability no matter whose beats they're rapping over, or how many guests are with them.
But y'all that claim this album sucks simply because there aren't enough West Coast producers and guests are playin yourselves. The album would suck 10x worse if it had only beats and guests from Cali. If Battlecat (who used to be one of the best in the West) can't make this album sound good, why do you think Soopafly or Warren G could do much better? Pretty much all of Soopafly's shit was equally bad, and if "In The Mid-Nite Hour" is any indication, Warren G would be WORSE. Same with rappers...all them cats are just like Daz and Kurupt themselves; nobody except those in the West are checkin for them anymore cause they're just has-beens of the G-Funk era who got nothing else to offer hip-hop.
West coast fans aren't keeping the west down, it's artists that release trash like this and expect their fans to like it and buy it because it has the names "Snoop Dogg", "213", or "Tha Dogg Pound" on the cover.
Sure they are...and you are one of them. The album is trash according to you because it didn't have in-house production and guests. That is how all West Coast fans are - if it doesn't follow the Death Row/G-Funk blueprint, it's wack. So that's what these artists do - they try and cater to the G-Funk flunkies AND reach out to the mainstream at the same time, but trying to satisfy both is impossible and always results in shit music. "Cali Iz Active" is yet another textbook example. If Kurupt and Daz had focused on improving their style and adapting themselves better to the times rather than satisfying their stupid L.A. fans, it would have been better.
So yeah, the fans are keeping the West down. They need to learn that it ain't '95 anymore and that hip-hop has moved on, and the sooner they catch up to it, the better.
We know why Daz wasnt on the boards, We know why Warren G wasnt on the boards with 213. Labels dont wanna pay niiggaz to rap AND produce. Labels say hey its YOUR project we are already paying you to rap, we AINT paying you to produce its simple as that. We know this shiit woulda been heat with Daz production on it. Even without it gets a 7/10.
Daz and Warren G ain't behind the boards because their beats are shit. They're just relics of the G-Funk era that would make the album sound dated and boring. They don't get to produce on major-label releases anymore because they would lower the quality of the album if given a chance.
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personally i thought it was dope..
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only thing that couldve been better is if they had paid DAZ SOME $$$$ TO PRODUCE SOME TRACKS. same with warreg G
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Pretty much nobody is speaking on how Snoop riiiiipped every one of his verses on this album :o I remember when that was the first complaint out of dudes' mouths, so he's pretty much back for sure.
Blue Carpet Treatment could be Blueprint level material if Snoop conceptualizes things correctly, especially with his production budget.
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every time a dpg related album comes out everyone on this board rushes to talk shit on it.
yea right, 213 is the worst album ever and theres not even one decent track on it ::) fast forward one year and half yall muthafuckas are loving the shit out of it.
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But y'all that claim this album sucks simply because there aren't enough West Coast producers and guests are playin yourselves. The album would suck 10x worse if it had only beats and guests from Cali. If Battlecat (who used to be one of the best in the West) can't make this album sound good, why do you think Soopafly or Warren G could do much better? Pretty much all of Soopafly's shit was equally bad, and if "In The Mid-Nite Hour" is any indication, Warren G would be WORSE. Same with rappers...all them cats are just like Daz and Kurupt themselves; nobody except those in the West are checkin for them anymore cause they're just has-beens of the G-Funk era who got nothing else to offer hip-hop.
um, Soopafly's tracks were by far the best tracks on the album. "Throwin up da C" could easily be a single and a summertime anthem that would get them spins. Soopafly and Warren would be much better because they have known Snoop, Daz, and Kurupt for years and probably know the sound that can bring the best out of em. Same way that Dre knows how to bring the best out of snoop. You don't think the album would be hotter with some of the people from the "Cali iz Active" video?
Sure they are...and you are one of them. The album is trash according to you because it didn't have in-house production and guests. That is how all West Coast fans are - if it doesn't follow the Death Row/G-Funk blueprint, it's wack. So that's what these artists do - they try and cater to the G-Funk flunkies AND reach out to the mainstream at the same time, but trying to satisfy both is impossible and always results in shit music. "Cali Iz Active" is yet another textbook example. If Kurupt and Daz had focused on improving their style and adapting themselves better to the times rather than satisfying their stupid L.A. fans, it would have been better.
So yeah, the fans are keeping the West down. They need to learn that it ain't '95 anymore and that hip-hop has moved on, and the sooner they catch up to it, the better.
I NEVER mentioned anything about this album being compared to any Death Row/G-Funk era album. Let me repeat that for those that see this thread: I never mentioned anything about this album being compared to any Death Row/G-Funk era album.
If you want to compare albums, compare this album to E-40. Both of them haven't been in the mainstream in a while and are associated with a certain sound however the difference is that E-40 was able to cater to both crowds (the Bay area and mainstream) successfully and drop plenty of hot songs to satisfy both crowds. Snoop, Daz, and Kurupt for the most part chose tracks that were garbage that even a deaf person would disagree with. Like I said, Snoop and Tha Dogg pound expect their g-funk fans to buy anything that they release, they do these interviews on sites like dubcnn and wcrydaz promising that this album will be "the" album that takes them back, and these fans are let down time and time again because they hype their albums up and release trash. Like someone said, this is the 213 album all over again. I feel bad for the Snoop groupies that are going to be let down by this album.
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5 best Songs are...
1.Heavyweights : This reminds me of a old school Dogg Pound Track and Listen to Daz Flow 8) 8)
2.Keeping It Gangsta : Listen to Rage's Verse :o WE NEED A NEW RAGE ALBUM
3.Throwin Up Da C : Nice song!! sounds like an old school track
4.Its All Hood : No Ice Cube verse but I was very impress by Snoops verse and flow
5.Slow Ur Roll : I like the vibe of this song
5 Best Beats
1.Heavyweights
2.Slow Your Roll
3.Dont Sweat It
4.Kushin N Pushin
5.Keeping IT Gangsta
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good album except for its craccin all night, make dat pussy pop, and she likes dat
if there were all the leftover tracks on it instead of them above it would be a really good album
one of the better releases of this year so far
cant understand why so many are hating on it
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The features of Paul Wall, Banner and Diddy are the highlights of the album
:boohoo: ..I hope that's not true
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um, Soopafly's tracks were by far the best tracks on the album. "Throwin up da C" could easily be a single and a summertime anthem that would get them spins.
Spins where? In L.A.? L.A. ain't the rest of the country, or the rest of the world, son. You know as well as I do that nobody outside of L.A. would give a fuck about "Throwin Up Da C" any more than they've given a fuck about the single "Cali Iz Active" so far.
Soopafly and Warren would be much better because they have known Snoop, Daz, and Kurupt for years and probably know the sound that can bring the best out of em. Same way that Dre knows how to bring the best out of snoop.
Neither Soopafly nor Warren can bring out the best in Snoop the way Dre or even Pharrell can (yeah, I said it...Pharrell's beats for Snoop are dope). Battlecat USED to bring out Snoop's best (5 years ago), but he's starting to sound pedestrian now. And ain't nobody gonna bring out the best in Daz and Kurupt - both of them are has-beens who have long since fallen off and will always sound wack no matter who they have producing them.
The album doesn't gain anything from Soopafly's productions, and it wouldn't have gained from Warren G's, either.
I NEVER mentioned anything about this album being compared to any Death Row/G-Funk era album. Let me repeat that for those that see this thread: I never mentioned anything about this album being compared to any Death Row/G-Funk era album.
If you want to compare albums, compare this album to E-40. Both of them haven't been in the mainstream in a while and are associated with a certain sound however the difference is that E-40 was able to cater to both crowds (the Bay area and mainstream) successfully and drop plenty of hot songs to satisfy both crowds. Snoop, Daz, and Kurupt for the most part chose tracks that were garbage that even a deaf person would disagree with. Like I said, Snoop and Tha Dogg pound expect their g-funk fans to buy anything that they release, they do these interviews on sites like dubcnn and wcrydaz promising that this album will be "the" album that takes them back, and these fans are let down time and time again because they hype their albums up and release trash. Like someone said, this is the 213 album all over again. I feel bad for the Snoop groupies that are going to be let down by this album.
You just contradicted yourself...first you say you don't expect them to do G-Funk, then you criticize them for not catering to G-Funk fans. My point is, not only does DPG not have any obligation to G-Funk fans, but they shouldn't even be trying in the first place because it ain't worth it.
G-Funk fans are just dumb muh'fuckas who live in the past and then complain whenever an album doesn't follow the G-Funk blueprint to a tee, and then they wonder why nobody except them is checking for the West anymore.
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LMFAO at people trying to say this album is heat, this was easily one of the worst albums I have ever heard. I listened to every track more than once and my opinion that it is utter ass isnt going anywhere. Horrible album and its too bad that some people cant admit that.
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I ain't gonna lie, when Justin said the material is the best since Tha Streetz or RR&GB, I got hyped up. And just like Cube's album, I am going to wait and buy it. FYE has 2 bonus tracks that come with the album so that is where I am going.
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every time a dpg related album comes out everyone on this board rushes to talk shit on it.
yea right, 213 is the worst album ever and theres not even one decent track on it ::) fast forward one year and half yall muthafuckas are loving the shit out of it.
213 takes a piss on this :-\
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This is 213 Part 2.
213 album is actually pretty good for the most part
yeah agreed.. i only just started re'bumpin this album recently, and gota say i neglected it at first but it is a pretty smooth album after all.. got some nice cuts on tracks like "so fly" "mary jane" "another summer" etc..
As for the "cali iz active" album ill wait til i can give it a proper bump and form my own decision.. but in all honesty i havent been looking that forward to it because at end of day, kurupt, snoop, warren, daz and snoop are pretty much coming to end of their careers now and cant hold listeners like they use to and thats the most dissapointing thing and maybe we have too high expections of them now-a-days and should face facts that they never guna recapture their heat n hunger from the early DR era.
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I think fans are so for DPG artists and producers doing each others projects because THE SHIT WORKS!!! Doggystyle, Doggfather, Streetz, RR&GB, DPGC you know, etc. Kurupt's appearances on Snoop's albums are legendary. DPGC is like Wu Tang. You really do not want to hear Method Man on some Jelly Roll beats. No offense to Jelly, but you want to hear RZA do the beats. That is not living in the past, the shit works. It bangs in ya car. Same with DPG. CIA looks like it has contributions from quite a few DPGC artists and affliates, but what is consistent with fans is the tracks they do not like is with outside producers. Snoop has made it work for him, but it does not work as well for other DPGC artists. I think Kurupt's solo will probably be a better sounding album just for the fact Daz is doing it. DPGC you know what i'm throwin up was one of my favorites albums once you get past all the disses, because of Soopa, Fred, Meech and Quaze doin beats. Could you imagine CIA with that albums beats? :o But Daz said this in the beginning he was not involved as far as beats so just from hearing the reviews this album sounds like 213 all over again. Either way it is still DPGC all day for me. I grew up on them and 1 bad or so so album does not make me give up on them.
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um, Soopafly's tracks were by far the best tracks on the album. "Throwin up da C" could easily be a single and a summertime anthem that would get them spins.
Spins where? In L.A.? L.A. ain't the rest of the country, or the rest of the world, son. You know as well as I do that nobody outside of L.A. would give a fuck about "Throwin Up Da C" any more than they've given a fuck about the single "Cali Iz Active" so far.
Soopafly and Warren would be much better because they have known Snoop, Daz, and Kurupt for years and probably know the sound that can bring the best out of em. Same way that Dre knows how to bring the best out of snoop.
Neither Soopafly nor Warren can bring out the best in Snoop the way Dre or even Pharrell can (yeah, I said it...Pharrell's beats for Snoop are dope). Battlecat USED to bring out Snoop's best (5 years ago), but he's starting to sound pedestrian now. And ain't nobody gonna bring out the best in Daz and Kurupt - both of them are has-beens who have long since fallen off and will always sound wack no matter who they have producing them.
The album doesn't gain anything from Soopafly's productions, and it wouldn't have gained from Warren G's, either.
I NEVER mentioned anything about this album being compared to any Death Row/G-Funk era album. Let me repeat that for those that see this thread: I never mentioned anything about this album being compared to any Death Row/G-Funk era album.
If you want to compare albums, compare this album to E-40. Both of them haven't been in the mainstream in a while and are associated with a certain sound however the difference is that E-40 was able to cater to both crowds (the Bay area and mainstream) successfully and drop plenty of hot songs to satisfy both crowds. Snoop, Daz, and Kurupt for the most part chose tracks that were garbage that even a deaf person would disagree with. Like I said, Snoop and Tha Dogg pound expect their g-funk fans to buy anything that they release, they do these interviews on sites like dubcnn and wcrydaz promising that this album will be "the" album that takes them back, and these fans are let down time and time again because they hype their albums up and release trash. Like someone said, this is the 213 album all over again. I feel bad for the Snoop groupies that are going to be let down by this album.
You just contradicted yourself...first you say you don't expect them to do G-Funk, then you criticize them for not catering to G-Funk fans. My point is, not only does DPG not have any obligation to G-Funk fans, but they shouldn't even be trying in the first place because it ain't worth it.
G-Funk fans are just dumb muh'fuckas who live in the past and then complain whenever an album doesn't follow the G-Funk blueprint to a tee, and then they wonder why nobody except them is checking for the West anymore.
+1 for speaking the truth
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We as west coast fans also need to stop knockin our artists for "their sound". You know why the south sells? Because they did not compromise their sound. They kept it hood and country with the slang and beats. I people love it now. You got people wearing chucks and khakis, using west coast producers and c walkin in they videos (Puff) and they aint even from the west, so that arguement that people do not want or like west coast music is bs. We love Fred Wreck and the dude was nominated along with WSC for Gangsta Nation, but in the same breath we are like "oh nobody around the usa is gonna listen to Fred, or Battlecat or whoever makes beats out here. So what does Fred do? Make a hit with G-Unit on they soundtrack that is a smash AROUND THE COUNTRY! Battlecat? Gangsta Boogie, G'D Up. Those were big songs for Mack and the Eastsidaz. We got some serious heat on the boards and on the mic yall. Support it or don't listen to it.
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LMFAO at people trying to say this album is heat, this was easily one of the worst albums I have ever heard. I listened to every track more than once and my opinion that it is utter ass isnt going anywhere. Horrible album and its too bad that some people cant admit that.
dunno about worst album ever, but it is a pretty bad album.
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I like the album after two times of hearing... but opinion might change, can't say in what direction ;)
But I hate to mention senseless features on a cover like Nate Dogg for singin "waahoooh" on "Don't Sweat It" or the Cube-Feature, shit sounds like a sample though it's a pretty hot track.
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Gotta admit, i just downloaded it and im feelin guilty as hell, i skipped through some tracks and they sounded pretty tight, so ive deleted it of my computer and im gonna wait for the real thing. I dont really like downloadin albums, its part of the reason most music falls on its ass nowadays. Im not expecting too much from the doggpound, despite "Cali iZ active" other tracks that ive listened to fully havent really impressed me, but id rather wait for the real thing and take time to assess the music instead of sticking it on my I pod and forgetting i have it.
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holy shit this is bad, its worse then blood money!! rick rock's beat sucks, most of the verses suck too. oh and the worst song ever created is on this album "Its crackin all night". where did they come up with such a bad song? its pathetic the label let them put such a bad song on a album. Puffy better hope no one hears this song, because it'll destroy his career. bad bad bad album.
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not great, but it was at least entertaining. you guys honestly do sound like haters, but i can kind of see where its coming from.
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holy shit this is bad, its worse then blood money!! rick rock's beat sucks, most of the verses suck too. oh and the worst song ever created is on this album "Its crackin all night". where did they come up with such a bad song? its pathetic the label let them put such a bad song on a album. Puffy better hope no one hears this song, because it'll destroy his career. bad bad bad album.
Couldnt agree more, horrible album but on the diddy track kurupt was worse than diddy, ive never heard him sound that bad ever
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I like the album after two times of hearing... but opinion might change, can't say in what direction ;)
But I hate to mention senseless features on a cover like Nate Dogg for singin "waahoooh" on "Don't Sweat It" or the Cube-Feature, shit sounds like a sample though it's a pretty hot track.
is that Nate singing those wack "waahoooh"s ? ;D what a disappointment for those expecting some heat from Nathaniel. Is it me or the "Don't Sweat It" retail version sounds less violentissime than the mixtape track previewed 2 months ago ?
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I like the album after two times of hearing... but opinion might change, can't say in what direction ;)
But I hate to mention senseless features on a cover like Nate Dogg for singin "waahoooh" on "Don't Sweat It" or the Cube-Feature, shit sounds like a sample though it's a pretty hot track.
is that Nate singing those wack "waahoooh"s ? ;D what a disappointment for those expecting some heat from Nathaniel. Is it me or the "Don't Sweat It" retail version sounds less violentissime than the mixtape track previewed 2 months ago ?
yea thats what I was thinking
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yea, that dont sweat it track sounds different. and i think the verses are rearanged.
that would be cool if the full advance version leaked
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
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Snoop is the best part about this album easily.....
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
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Tha most disappointing thing about this album that everyone seem to not realise is tha lack of cali features on tha album. Since it's Cali Iz Active it should've have jus Cali niggaz on it not no South and East coast muthafuckas.
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
hahaha Yeah right Dipset's material is so much hotter and fresher than this cali iz active bullshit its not even close, stop being so biased. Even Blood Money was a whole lot better than Cali iz Active
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I'm 9 tracks deep, and I'm feelin it except for "Slow Your Roll." I can't see why people don't like this, its exactly what I expected from it.
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
hahaha Yeah right Dipset's material is so much hotter and fresher than this cali iz active bullshit its not even close, stop being so biased. Even Blood Money was a whole lot better than Cali iz Active
I'm biased ???
i'm calling it how i see it.............tha album is shit but y'all acting like it's tha worst album in tha history of rap, you expect me to co-sign that bullshit ?
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
hahaha Yeah right Dipset's material is so much hotter and fresher than this cali iz active bullshit its not even close, stop being so biased. Even Blood Money was a whole lot better than Cali iz Active
I completely dissagree.....This DPG album is way beter than Blood Money.....LOL you must not like westcoast music man...either that or you stuck in 1992 or somethin
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
hahaha Yeah right Dipset's material is so much hotter and fresher than this cali iz active bullshit its not even close, stop being so biased. Even Blood Money was a whole lot better than Cali iz Active
I completely dissagree.....This DPG album is way beter than Blood Money.....LOL you must not like westcoast music man...either that or you stuck in 1992 or somethin
What the fuck u talking bout 95% of the rap i listen to is from the west. Kurupt is also my fav rapper of all time but right now these cats are embarassing on the mic, face it.
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
hahaha Yeah right Dipset's material is so much hotter and fresher than this cali iz active bullshit its not even close, stop being so biased. Even Blood Money was a whole lot better than Cali iz Active
I completely dissagree.....This DPG album is way beter than Blood Money.....LOL you must not like westcoast music man...either that or you stuck in 1992 or somethin
What the fuck u talking bout 95% of the rap i listen to is from the west. Kurupt is also my fav rapper of all time but right now these cats are embarassing on the mic, face it.
Kurupt is pretty wack now, altho he comes pretty tight now and then.....He was dope on "Slow your Roll" and also dope on a few tracks from the Black Ty tape....even tho Kurupt wasnt as good, I still think the new album isnt that bad....at least not as bad as you guys are making it out
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I'm listening to tha album right now and it ain't as bad as people on here are making it out to be...............
there should be a feature on this forum that automatically posts this whenever a new album is being talked about
w/e u say clown
you muthafuckas are making this out to be some Tony Yayo= Dip Set type wackness when it's not
i think u got it twisted, i was agreeing with you. people hate too much on new shit at this board
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you know it's funny, I always say that DPG just needs to keep in STRAIGHT westcoast and because they not going to sell elsewhere and everyone hates on me for that
now the guest list is:Diddy, Paul Wall, and Banner and the album is weak and will FLOP
so when it flops in sales with all this "mass appeal" shit then what?
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We as west coast fans also need to stop knockin our artists for "their sound". You know why the south sells? Because they did not compromise their sound. They kept it hood and country with the slang and beats. I people love it now.
No, the South sells because their "crunk" sound what's hot right now. Just like the West's G-Funk was hot in the mid-90s. But the South ain't gonna be on top forever. A few years from now, ain't nobody gonna be checking for Lil Jon, Three-6, Young Jeezy, and all these other country niggas cause they're all putting out the same bullshit over and over.
So don't act like the West needs to follow the South's example, cause if the South keeps doing what the West was doing 10 years ago, then they're gonna be in the same position we're in right now.
You got people wearing chucks and khakis, using west coast producers and c walkin in they videos (Puff) and they aint even from the west, so that arguement that people do not want or like west coast music is bs. We love Fred Wreck and the dude was nominated along with WSC for Gangsta Nation, but in the same breath we are like "oh nobody around the usa is gonna listen to Fred, or Battlecat or whoever makes beats out here. So what does Fred do? Make a hit with G-Unit on they soundtrack that is a smash AROUND THE COUNTRY! Battlecat? Gangsta Boogie, G'D Up. Those were big songs for Mack and the Eastsidaz. We got some serious heat on the boards and on the mic yall. Support it or don't listen to it.
Homie, the C-walkin trend died out 5 years ago. It was the closet the West has come to a resurgence with Snoop, Tha Eastsidaz, WC, and Xzibit popularizing the dance, but it was just another trend that was over as soon as it had begun. You're behind the times if you think anyone still gives a shit about the C-walk now except the niggas who are rip riding in L.A.
Just face it - the West is dead and it's gonna stay dead as long as cats like you demand that West Coast rappers only put out the same bullshit music over and over. The West needs to be more like the East, not like the South or the Midwest - it needs to innovate and give people a reason that it's still relevent. But it's just not doing it right now.
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Kurupt needs to check himself for real.
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We as west coast fans also need to stop knockin our artists for "their sound". You know why the south sells? Because they did not compromise their sound. They kept it hood and country with the slang and beats. I people love it now.
No, the South sells because their "crunk" sound what's hot right now. Just like the West's G-Funk was hot in the mid-90s. But the South ain't gonna be on top forever. A few years from now, ain't nobody gonna be checking for Lil Jon, Three-6, Young Jeezy, and all these other country niggas cause they're all putting out the same bullshit over and over.
So don't act like the West needs to follow the South's example, cause if the South keeps doing what the West was doing 10 years ago, then they're gonna be in the same position we're in right now.
You got people wearing chucks and khakis, using west coast producers and c walkin in they videos (Puff) and they aint even from the west, so that arguement that people do not want or like west coast music is bs. We love Fred Wreck and the dude was nominated along with WSC for Gangsta Nation, but in the same breath we are like "oh nobody around the usa is gonna listen to Fred, or Battlecat or whoever makes beats out here. So what does Fred do? Make a hit with G-Unit on they soundtrack that is a smash AROUND THE COUNTRY! Battlecat? Gangsta Boogie, G'D Up. Those were big songs for Mack and the Eastsidaz. We got some serious heat on the boards and on the mic yall. Support it or don't listen to it.
Homie, the C-walkin trend died out 5 years ago. It was the closet the West has come to a resurgence with Snoop, Tha Eastsidaz, WC, and Xzibit popularizing the dance, but it was just another trend that was over as soon as it had begun. You're behind the times if you think anyone still gives a shit about the C-walk now except the niggas who are rip riding in L.A.
Just face it - the West is dead and it's gonna stay dead as long as cats like you demand that West Coast rappers only put out the same bullshit music over and over. The West needs to be more like the East, not like the South or the Midwest - it needs to innovate and give people a reason that it's still relevent. But it's just not doing it right now.
I understand that C-walkin died, but you missed my whole point. If the trends and the music is so "dead" then why do you have so many people copying it (Dipset). It must be something about the trends and the music people like or want to emulate. Where in my opinion did I say they need to stay the same. I said producers like Fred and Battlecat continue to put out hot music. They are west coast producers right? You can be innovative and still be from the west. I really don't give a fuck whether or not people think it is dope or not. That is a opinion at the end of the day. DJ Quik BEEN dropping dope shit. Planet Asia, Balance, Crook, Ras, the list goes on and on. The west aint just about Gangsta Rap or hyphy, but they get the mainstream attention. We have as diverse a music culture as any coast. What you want, are rappers to sound like the east and the south now. I agree with you on the music needs to be innovative and grow, but if there are artists out there that are doing it would you recognize it. Because I see quite a few. They may not be mainstream and people aint really checkin for it.
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it leaked 2 days ago... relax
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Hell, I'll just wait till next Tuesday and pick this up and the Kurupt.
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I understand that C-walkin died, but you missed my whole point. If the trends and the music is so "dead" then why do you have so many people copying it (Dipset). It must be something about the trends and the music people like or want to emulate.
No, you missed my point. Who is emulating the West? Just because Dipset claim to be from the United Blood Nation (which has the allegiance of sets in NYC) doesn't mean they're emulating the West. Likewise, the music isn't being emulating just because 50 Cent works with Fredwreck or Jay-Z works with DJ Quik on a song. Matter of fact, I seem to recall lots of people complaing about Quik changing up his style to suit other cats?
Where in my opinion did I say they need to stay the same. I said producers like Fred and Battlecat continue to put out hot music. They are west coast producers right? You can be innovative and still be from the west. I really don't give a fuck whether or not people think it is dope or not. That is a opinion at the end of the day. DJ Quik BEEN dropping dope shit. Planet Asia, Balance, Crook, Ras, the list goes on and on. The west aint just about Gangsta Rap or hyphy, but they get the mainstream attention. We have as diverse a music culture as any coast.
Fred and Battlecat are both G-Funk producers. They do a better job of it than most of these copycats, but they are still practicing an obsolete style that nobody outside of the West is feeling anymore. And yes, despite what you said, gangsta rap is all the West is about...niggas trying to C-walk at age 40 and convince people they're still relevent to hip-hop. And yes, there are some ill MCs like Ras and Planet Asia, but they're too few and far in between. There is far less diversity in the West than there is on the East Coast, or even in the South.
What you want, are rappers to sound like the east and the south now. I agree with you on the music needs to be innovative and grow, but if there are artists out there that are doing it would you recognize it. Because I see quite a few. They may not be mainstream and people aint really checkin for it.
I want the West to innovative, and I want to hear good music. That is all...and with the exception of a few cats, I ain't hearing it these days.
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I want the West to innovative, and I want to hear good music. That is all...and with the exception of a few cats, I ain't hearing it these days.
I agree with you 100%. More cats do need to push their creative boundaries. There is still good music out there, but yes it is very hard to find.
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I bumped the album the whole two days and I can honestly say it's not that great...I won't call it wack it's aight...but it ain't worth my money.
Laugh Now, Cry Later >>>>>>>> Cali Iz Active........Hands down.
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i like most of the tracks but im disappointed with the battlecat beats....
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Now that I've listened to the album, I have to wonder what album the nay sayers were listening to. The album is pretty damn good.
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Sittin' On 23'z
It's Craccin All Night
Faknass Hoes
Don't Sweat It
Make Dat Pussy Pop
Neva should've made tha album.............after my second listen i'm feeling tha album a lil' more but it's a disappointment to be honest
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Sittin' On 23'z
It's Craccin All Night
Faknass Hoes
Don't Sweat It
Make Dat Pussy Pop
Neva should've made tha album.............after my second listen i'm feeling tha album a lil' more but it's a disappointment to be honest
What the hell are you talking about ? Those are the best track imo.
Yayos album >>> this :-\
Snoop is the shit though. He is on fire lately 8)
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Why the fuck can mc's from NY rap on "Premier" or "Pete Rock" type of beats & get away wit it without anyone calling their shit outdated or saying they should work wit artists like Diddy but everytime a dude from the westcoast does a G-Funk track y'all say he's stuck in the past or should make more mainstream sounding tracks??? ::)
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Why the fuck can mc's from NY rap on "Premier" or "Pete Rock" type of beats & get away wit it without anyone calling their shit outdated or saying they should work wit artists like Diddy but everytime a dude from the westcoast does a G-Funk track y'all say he's stuck in the past or should make more mainstream sounding tracks??? ::)
Probably becuase Pete Rock and Premier SHIT on Daz, Warren G's production.
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Sittin' On 23'z
It's Craccin All Night
Faknass Hoes
Don't Sweat It
Make Dat Pussy Pop
Neva should've made tha album
What the hell are you talking about ? Those are the best track imo.
Yayos album >>> this :-\
Shut....the fuck.....up!!
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Sittin' On 23'z
It's Craccin All Night
Faknass Hoes
Don't Sweat It
Make Dat Pussy Pop
Neva should've made tha album
What the hell are you talking about ? Those are the best track imo.
Yayos album >>> this :-\
Shut....the fuck.....up!!
Truth hurts :D
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i like most of the tracks but im disappointed with the battlecat beats....
the only battlecat beat iv heard apart from cali iz active is stop lyin and it sunds pretty good , westcoast beat 8)
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Yayos album is much better then this, the production is better, yayos flow/rhymes are better. not that yayo is better but its just a meaure of how much they fallen off.
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I gotta say, this album is waaay better than I thought it would be. I wasn't expecting much, and I was pleasantly surprised. I really like it. Guess I'm in the minority. I even like the joint with Diddy on it. And people can hate on Kurupt as much as they want (I know I do) but his verse on Keepin' It Gangsta is the best 16 he's spit in years. I'll stand by that.
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Why the fuck can mc's from NY rap on "Premier" or "Pete Rock" type of beats & get away wit it without anyone calling their shit outdated or saying they should work wit artists like Diddy but everytime a dude from the westcoast does a G-Funk track y'all say he's stuck in the past or should make more mainstream sounding tracks??? ::)
Probably becuase Pete Rock and Premier SHIT on Daz, Warren G's production.
I havent been up on Daz since his Death Row days. I love the stuff he did back then. His stuff now is wacker than back then? How much more so? I wanted to check this album out but I noticed he didnt do no tracks
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Why the fuck can mc's from NY rap on "Premier" or "Pete Rock" type of beats & get away wit it without anyone calling their shit outdated or saying they should work wit artists like Diddy but everytime a dude from the westcoast does a G-Funk track y'all say he's stuck in the past or should make more mainstream sounding tracks??? ::)
Probably becuase Pete Rock and Premier SHIT on Daz, Warren G's production.
I strongly disagree! Premier & Pete Rock are great, but they ain't any better than Warren behind the boards. Maybe better than Daz though.
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Ohhh SHiiiit they forgot to put some WBALLS Skit!!
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Ohhh SHiiiit they forgot to put some WBALLS Skit!!
that is the least of this album's problems
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Ohhh SHiiiit they forgot to put some WBALLS Skit!!
last time i heard that, was at the Game n Snoop Concert last year. shit was funny as fuck, they started playing songs for da bitches, lol
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Who is WBalls? who plays the character, and if you didn't notice, all the songs hes on kick ass.
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Who is WBalls?
lol
this board has way too many haters tho.
saying predicate felon is better than cal iz active is just moronic. that should be an automatic ban
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I think Snoop’s the one to blame. Literally everyone who’s ever worked with him say he’s cool and all but when it comes to business he’s the biggest dildo around. I can’t think of one good business decision he’s made out of the thousands of things he’s done since being at the helm of his career.
Warren said the idea to take all of his production off the 213 album was Snoops idea. Daz said the reason he didn’t produce anything for this Dogg Pound record was because Snoop wanted other producers. And side note, people like battle cat need to be fined for such lame production and I’m serious. This guys beats literally are garbage, they’re painful to the ear. See, Snoop has the same business mentality that someone like50 cent has. Totally opposite of someone like Puffy or JD where they think all you need for a album to be successful is to dump lots of money into it. Never mind what you putting into it as long as it’s expensive. A beat that cost 20 grand must be better than one that costs 2 right? Wrong, but its that mindset that gets us these shitty phoned in albums and what’s worse is I think Snoop has NO idea. I bet the next time around will look at it like “ok, the last dogg pound album sold ok with one P Diddy track, so in order to sell more it must need more P Diddy tracks.” When in reality it would have done better with NOT more but LESS.
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I give this album a 2.5/5
The highlights: Cali is active, Lady of Rage's verse on Keepin it Gangsta and Throwin up da C. Snoop had decent verses. Other than that, this album is below mediocre. That song with David Banner is ear pollution.
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Ohhh SHiiiit they forgot to put some WBALLS Skit!!
that is the least of this album's problems
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This album is real nice, I don't know what everyone's problem wit the CD is.I just think most of y'all got ya expectations too high or something.I mean, what were y'all expecting, a classic???& since it isn't, everyones hating.Anyways like I said, great CD.
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So you guys are saying it is not better than Tha Streetz and RR&GB like Justin said? ??? ;)
justin couldn't have been more wrong
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This guys beats literally are garbage, they’re painful to the ear
on this album or in general? cause battlecat is one of the best producers, he brought shit to this album though.
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So you guys are saying it is not better than Tha Streetz and RR&GB like Justin said? ??? ;)
justin couldn't have been more wrong
id ont know to tell u the truth, there was a lot of changes from the album i heard 3 months ago, until now. more guests, deleted tracks, new additions, and what not. but im just surprised that people dont like Keep It Gangsta more, or even Its All Good. I thought there would be a huge response for Its All Good and the other tracks as well. It really sucks that they left off the alchemist track as well as the busta rhymes tracks, those were 2 of the most solid cuts on the album. unfortunately shit happens though. Im suprised more people dont like sittin on 23z, that track is hard as hell in the car.
and additionally i never said it was better than the streetz and RR&GB. I only said that this was the best cd that has come out since those 2 projects. in my opinion this is a more solid effort than any of daz's recent solo releases, kurupt's solo releases (maybe on par with space boogie), but better than dillinger and young gotti 1 and 2, and what not. i mean i really thought people would like "dont sweat it, keep it gangsta, its all good, cali iz active, stop lying, throwin up da C".
i admit that the paul wall songs david banner and some of the other one are all terrible. but i mean i believe that there are enough strong solid cuts on there regardless.
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Pete Rock isn't that great anymore, but to say Warren G is better than Preem is laughable. Warren hasn't made a banging beat in over a decade.
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Pete Rock isn't that great anymore, but to say Warren G is better than Preem is laughable. Warren hasn't made a banging beat in over a decade.
I would call , for instance, the Intro beat on ROTR a "banging beat"
but yeah, his last LP, production wasnt very good at all (to his standards)
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Pete Rock isn't that great anymore, but to say Warren G is better than Preem is laughable. Warren hasn't made a banging beat in over a decade.
I didn't say he was better than them, just that they didn't "shit" on Warren's productions. And I think a lot of Warren's beats on ITMH were great. I still listen to that record.
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So you guys are saying it is not better than Tha Streetz and RR&GB like Justin said? ??? ;)
justin couldn't have been more wrong
yeah, he was gettin everyone hyped for this shit
you would of thought he was listening to Dogg Food 2
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I only said that this was the best cd that has come out since those 2 projects. in my opinion this is a more solid effort than any of daz's recent solo releases, kurupt's solo releases (maybe on par with space boogie), but better than dillinger and young gotti 1 and 2, and what not.
justin couldn't have been more wrong
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This album is real nice, I don't know what everyone's problem wit the CD is.I just think most of y'all got ya expectations too high or something.I mean, what were y'all expecting, a classic???& since it isn't, everyones hating.Anyways like I said, great CD.
Hating? ::)
Anything to excuse wackness like this. I could argue that people's standards for quality music has plummetted drammatically. Go listen to Ghostface's album and then listen to Ice Cube's album. Then listen to this album and this album is nowhere near as good as Ghostface or Ice Cube's albums.
I wasn't expecting a classic, I wasn't expecting Dogg Pound 2 and I don't think anyone else was either. However this album is barely average at that.
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So you guys are saying it is not better than Tha Streetz and RR&GB like Justin said? ??? ;)
justin couldn't have been more wrong
i mean i really thought people would like "dont sweat it, keep it gangsta, its all good, cali iz active, stop lying, throwin up da C".
dont worry, they do like em. they're just to buisy being dissapointed with the album as a whole. this cd has a lot of solid cuts on it.
but there are a few low points too. first off, nate only does background vocals. it shouldnt say featuring ice cube, cause then people expect a verse, not some 2 second sample. there are too many mainstream features for most west coast heads (ie diddy, banner, jazze, swizz), and then to top it off kurupts lyrics for the most part are sub par, plus no soopafly on the mic. hopefully the final release has that busta track on it, i wanna hear that, but overall its a good cd, just give it a few spins.
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i agree with most people here, i only like 3 tracks out of this cd which would be It's All Good, Throwin Up Da C, and Face 2 Face cuz that beat is monsterous
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i'm putting my finger at snoop for all his fucked up decision for DOGG POUND. Snoop ain't no dpg. He just tryna fuck daz and kurupt's mind and get their money. Snoop is dickhead for tryna make some fucked up moves. I'm sure he probably had some people(who never listedn to rap before) sit down and listen to the whole album before they get released. Those people thought it was because they thought it was "hip hop." Snoop wanna see if they can money off these white people. Snoop was in the ice cube saying, "make money off the crackers." hahah... i know snoop is the one washed up.
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This album is real nice, I don't know what everyone's problem wit the CD is.I just think most of y'all got ya expectations too high or something.I mean, what were y'all expecting, a classic???& since it isn't, everyones hating.Anyways like I said, great CD.
Hating? ::)
Anything to excuse wackness like this. I could argue that people's standards for quality music has plummetted drammatically. Go listen to Ghostface's album and then listen to Ice Cube's album. Then listen to this album and this album is nowhere near as good as Ghostface or Ice Cube's albums.
I wasn't expecting a classic, I wasn't expecting Dogg Pound 2 and I don't think anyone else was either. However this album is barely average at that.
lol at telling me to listen to Ghostface, dude, Ghostface is my favorite rapper.
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Highlight of the album:
lady_of_rage-keepin'_it_gangsta_(verse).mp3 (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=709A87D90DC60B8C)
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I've finally listened to this CD enough times to make a good comment on it. This CD is tight, there's really nothing to bitch about. Even the songs with Diddy, Paul Wall, and Banner are not bad, but they're just different than the West Coast shit everyone is used to. Anyways, EVERYONE knew these guys were gonna be on the album for months prior to the release. I remember a fair amount of people complaining back then, but for everyone else, what did you expect out of a track with David Banner on it, or Paul Wall? I could easily see that Paul Wall track pop up on a Paul Wall album and no one would think twice.
The rest of the tracks are great, except, ironically, I think "Slow Your Roll" is the worst track on the album, its just boring as fuck to me, even though there was an appreciation thread made for it earlier today. This CD is excatly what I expected, and I'm definitely gonna buy it when it comes out. Its also 10X more West Coast than the 213 album, and besides the Paul Wall, Banner, Jazze Pha, and Swizz Beatz tracks (one-fouth of the album,) everything on here sounds West Coast.
To everyone who hates it, what did you expect from it? It sure as hell wasn't gonna be Dogg Food, and I can understand the complaints of Kurupt's verse on the Diddy track, cuz that was shit, but I really don't see the hating on Kurupt either.
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To everyone who hates it, what did you expect from it? It sure as hell wasn't gonna be Dogg Food, and I can understand the complaints of Kurupt's verse on the Diddy track, cuz that was shit, but I really don't see the hating on Kurupt either.
Fans expected a half decent album and they got absolute trash (minus the soopafly tracks). Everyone that was involved (not named Soopafly or Lady of Rage) could have done a lot better with their contributions
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To everyone who hates it, what did you expect from it? It sure as hell wasn't gonna be Dogg Food, and I can understand the complaints of Kurupt's verse on the Diddy track, cuz that was shit, but I really don't see the hating on Kurupt either.
Fans expected a half decent album and they got absolute trash (minus the soopafly tracks). Everyone that was involved (not named Soopafly or Lady of Rage) could have done a lot better with their contributions
couldnt agree more
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To everyone who hates it, what did you expect from it? It sure as hell wasn't gonna be Dogg Food, and I can understand the complaints of Kurupt's verse on the Diddy track, cuz that was shit, but I really don't see the hating on Kurupt either.
Fans expected a half decent album and they got absolute trash (minus the soopafly tracks). Everyone that was involved (not named Soopafly or Lady of Rage or Snoop) could have done a lot better with their contributions
couldnt agree more
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The Main problem of this album is that it doesnt have no vibe, its like a bunch of tracks put togethe, also They were hyping this album like crazy, saying that the Whole Dogg Pound would be involved...and this is a mistake in my opinion, knowing that Kurupt & Daz sucked lyrically they should of add Bad Azz, Roscoe,Soopafly,Nate Dogg,Half Dead and the rest of the crew to help them out, also about the beats..they were just okay I was disapointed when I heard the Battlecat's beats because he used to make Classics, and soulful gangsta songs, now its sounds like alot of noise put together, they had anything to make a classic, and Im sure that they didnt put no effort on this because it was coming on Koch and it was made to create a hype for Snoops & Daz Major Solo's
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^^ I get what ur sayin, although I haven't heard the album yet
they really could do something good with it but they never seem to take that route
how fuckin hard would it be to get some Fredwreck beats and get some other guest spots, cheaper good ones
2001 and around that time before was such a good time in terms of chemistry with artists, I don't see why it changed
it seemed when Kurupt went to Death Row shit really changed, music turned crappier from 2002 on
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Oh and they are sooo Wack for ending the album with "she likes dat"
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Oh and they are sooo Wack for ending the album with "she likes dat"
Yup the worst track on a putrid album
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Oh and they are sooo Wack for ending the album with "she likes dat"