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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Frost67 on July 24, 2006, 03:08:14 AM
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Peace' Dub CC.
Ice Cube was a guest on Friday on Radio 1 in the UK.
He was asked about an NWA reunion and this is what he said.
"We are waiting on Dr Dre, its all on Dre. We are waiting on his call. We are all ready to do it, Ren is ready, I'm ready."
Will attempt to convert the audio and post it.
You maybe able to listen again at www.bbc.co.uk/radio1
EvO.
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Thanx on the info, it should be great, but I don't know why I'm not really hyped up.Maybe because I have doubts.Hope it happens tho
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it would be too good to be true..
maybe there will be 1 nwa track on detox
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^ if that ever comes.
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Peace eazye & Oklin.
Cube also said "Dre is the music behind NWA"
Hope Dre does put an NWA track on Detox, that 1 song could force the re-union.
EvO.
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
maybe... but just 1 track on detox would be dope
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
Totally. When I was a little bit younger I was really amped for this project, but not so much anymore. Let's be real: these guys don't really have that same "attitude" anymore. They're all living comfortably and in their late-30's (or 40's, in Dre's case). Could be a bit too old to be rapping things like "fuck the police" all over again. I'm not doubting that they could still make some good music together, as I'm sure they could, but it would never sound as fresh and have the same impact that the original group did. I say, preserve the legacy and leave it well alone.
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I actually agree that it could ruin the legacy.
But it would be dope.
Especially if they got Lil Eazy E to replace his father.
EvO.
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i dont know why but im really hyped up :D but i dont think it will happen :'(
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I actually agree that it could ruin the legacy.
But it would be dope.
Especially if they got Lil Eazy E to replace his father.
EvO.
if they wanna make dope music they shouldnīt let Lil E anywhere near the tracks.
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Maybe use some unheard Eazy E verses then.
But it would be good to put Lil Eazy on a track to introduce him.
Only right imo, if he's Eazy's 100% son.
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I don't think it's going to happen. It's easy for them to say we're waiting on Dre because they don't have the responsibilities Dre has.
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
Totally. When I was a little bit younger I was really amped for this project, but not so much anymore. Let's be real: these guys don't really have that same "attitude" anymore. They're all living comfortably and in their late-30's (or 40's, in Dre's case). Could be a bit too old to be rapping things like "fuck the police" all over again. I'm not doubting that they could still make some good music together, as I'm sure they could, but it would never sound as fresh and have the same impact that the original group did. I say, preserve the legacy and leave it well alone.
Real talk 100% agreed!!
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
Totally. When I was a little bit younger I was really amped for this project, but not so much anymore. Let's be real: these guys don't really have that same "attitude" anymore. They're all living comfortably and in their late-30's (or 40's, in Dre's case). Could be a bit too old to be rapping things like "fuck the police" all over again. I'm not doubting that they could still make some good music together, as I'm sure they could, but it would never sound as fresh and have the same impact that the original group did. I say, preserve the legacy and leave it well alone.
Real talk 100% agreed!!
True indeed.
But really doe, in every interview they ask Cube about an NWA reunion, and in every interview the answer is the same. It's been like that for years now. I don't even think Dre wants to do it, apart from maybe a song or two. Nevermind the old, always going for the new, and all that...
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
Dope news! Hopefully they get Yella on board. Cube and Ren may not be able to spit like they could in 88-89 but it is not like they couldn't get motivated to do so. You don't completely loose your ability to write good rhymes unless your name is Kurupt.
Whens the last time you heard an MC Ren track?
IMO he killed his apperance on Chronic 2001.
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
excactly
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yella,cube,ren,dre,lil.e
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i forgot the DOC.
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yella,cube,ren,dre,lil.e
I dunno about Lil E. He doesn't have the same swagger as his pops but at least he sounds somewhat like him. At least that is better then including Snoop like they originally wanted to. Eazy would roll over in his grave being replaced by Snoop Dogg.
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
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bad move, I don't blame Dre for not wanting to fuck with it
kinda stupid, just leave NWA alone
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would be dope, but i heard the same story aboutt 2 years ago. I dont believe in it anymore
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him....Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons...It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
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As much as i love NWA n their shit, it could never be the same without Eazy, not even with Lil E in his place, NWA is a legacy, why fuck with it when theres nothing left to prove? :-\
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I was ready in 2000 when they did hello and chin checkbut almosy 7 years later, i dont realy wana see it. I would rather see a ice cube record with Dre beats or a mc ren record with Dre beats but like a previous poster said, they all wll in thetrre 40s it just woulnt be the same.
Call this crazy but id rather see Lil Eazy, Hood surgeon, The game and someone else take youre pick have a younger version of nwa with appreances frm cube,ren and dre ( yes i know lil eazy and game got beef)
That i would rather see it ouwld be frsh but at the same time would still be legacy.
Lil eazy= eazy
Hood= Dre
Game= Ice cube
take youre pick = Mv ren
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naw fuck a NWA reunion...dude's are almost in there 40s (w/ dre already in his 40s) back in 2000 they weren't that old and they were still spitters but now it just aint the same....and yea i agree ren is wack as fuck now...
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz
This was always the issue when it came to an N.W.A. reunion album. You've got to question whether Dre even wants to do a reunion, because he doesn't seem too eager about this project even by his standards.
And LOL at anyone who thinks Lil Eazy-E should replace Eazy-E on this album.
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Dre on the beats
CUBE N REN and LIL EAZY
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would be nice to see the group back together. I wonder how big of a impact it would make .
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I'm not hating but I don't think this is EVER gonna happen considering Dre's agenda over the past years, hell it's still uncertain whether Detox is gonna drop or not!
If there was a right time for this it would be back in 2000/2001 after the Next Friday soundtrack dropped it's simply too late now IMO, even though it would be interesting ofcourse...
And I don't mind Lil' E or even Snoop appearing on a NWA reunion album but people always tend to forget about one person: DJ YELLA... and for some reason I don't see Dre and him working together again!
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Ice Cube's full of shit. He's said this same shit for years now.
He even did an interview once where he said Dre won't talk to him or work with him, then Dre said in an interview the next week that he had gave Cube a tape with 5 beats on it and was waiting for Cube to call him back.
Nobody in NWA has an attitude anymore. I think they should just do it as a novelty thing, every once in a while a song or two. Something on Detox might be nice, but a whole album would be too much in my opinion.
If Cube, Ren, & Dre want to work together there's no reason it has to be an "n.w.a." project
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Ice Cube's full of shit. He's said this same shit for years now.
He even did an interview once where he said Dre won't talk to him or work with him, then Dre said in an interview the next week that he had gave Cube a tape with 5 beats on it and was waiting for Cube to call him back.
Nobody in NWA has an attitude anymore. I think they should just do it as a novelty thing, every once in a while a song or two. Something on Detox might be nice, but a whole album would be too much in my opinion.
If Cube, Ren, & Dre want to work together there's no reason it has to be an "n.w.a." project
true it could be called anything, plus youre idea of a song on detox is just fin, thing is ren and cube will be like 50 by the time it comes out and Jay-z will have time to unretire and retire again.
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Raps gonna have to get old eventually; so Cube and Ren will have to be doing something when they're 50. Look @ Slick Rick... LOL
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him....Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons...It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
Nahh nigga you don't know whats up. Muthafuccas have no idea what Dre is doin. The nigga has a major label to run. He's not gonna say yes to every nigga who wants a beat. Dre aint the only producer in rap. As far as NWA goes. Cube can say what he want. So can Ren and Yella. But NWA is dead cuzz. It died on March 26, 1995. When the OG was livin none of em bitch niggas was wit it. Then all of a sudden everybody wanna do it. What does that tell ya?. They didnt even show up at his funeral. If E could come bacc now he'd tell em all to go fucc themselves. Whether he ganked em or not, it all makes sense now. Jealousy is a muthafucca. Who wouldnt gank dem niggas. I'm glad he got D.O.C.'s publishin for a chain. Stupid ass nigga. 8)
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If Ice Cube, Dr Dre and Mc Ren make an album together, it will shit on anything out right now (besides the ice cube album)
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like joey said about rachel & ross on "Friends"...
..."neeever gonna happen".
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him....Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons...It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
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I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"
Actually, Dre was in the middle of signing and promoting 50 cent when they first started talking. Cube just popped up and wanted to do an album. They were suppose to do an album together after Natural Born Killaz and Cube backed out. No bitching at Cube for that from you right? In business do you go with Ice Cube who may go platnium or do you ride the hottest thing out for cash? Lets put the music aside for am inute cuz Id rather of seen a Cube record with Dre but be logical here. He is in the business to make money and Cube just popped up at the wrong time.
...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him
Wrong. Dre wanted to hold off on the album because Game's shit was what was popping. His album wasn't out for more then a few weeks before Curtis "cry baby" Jackson wanted his shine in hip hop back. 50 had a problem Game was blowing up and wanted to rls the Massacre too quickly to take some of his shine because of his massive ego. Dre was holding off purposely. Makes no sense to compete with an artist on the same label but 50 has an ego so....
Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons
You are lying. How do I know? Dre sent Eve directly to RR because he knew he wouldn't be able to help her right away. She didn't leave because he took to long. She left because he told her that it would be a better look for her to be with RR and on an eastcoast label being that she is from Philly.
It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
Uhh that was Jimmy Iovine and Interscopes call. Dre does not dictate exactly when someone drops. So you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again, dood is busy and has business ventures, a label to run, and many other things. Not to mention he is a perfectionist who will spent hours on one little drum patern. You don't know what is going on so I'd chill on the assumptions. Its clear you don't like Dre around here....but don't grasp at straws to hate on him. Just do it and dont try to disguise it as you being mad he is slow LOL
As for songs here and there....uhh its working because his 4 or 5 songs a year are usually some of the biggest hits of the entire year.
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I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"
Actually, Dre was in the middle of signing and promoting 50 cent when they first started talking. Cube just popped up and wanted to do an album. They were suppose to do an album together after Natural Born Killaz and Cube backed out. No bitching at Cube for that from you right? In business do you go with Ice Cube who may go platnium or do you ride the hottest thing out for cash? Lets put the music aside for am inute cuz Id rather of seen a Cube record with Dre but be logical here. He is in the business to make money and Cube just popped up at the wrong time.
...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him
Wrong. Dre wanted to hold off on the album because Game's shit was what was popping. His album wasn't out for more then a few weeks before Curtis "cry baby" Jackson wanted his shine in hip hop back. 50 had a problem Game was blowing up and wanted to rls the Massacre too quickly to take some of his shine because of his massive ego. Dre was holding off purposely. Makes no sense to compete with an artist on the same label but 50 has an ego so....
Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons
You are lying. How do I know? Dre sent Eve directly to RR because he knew he wouldn't be able to help her right away. She didn't leave because he took to long. She left because he told her that it would be a better look for her to be with RR and on an eastcoast label being that she is from Philly.
It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
Uhh that was Jimmy Iovine and Interscopes call. Dre does not dictate exactly when someone drops. So you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again, dood is busy and has business ventures, a label to run, and many other things. Not to mention he is a perfectionist who will spent hours on one little drum patern. You don't know what is going on so I'd chill on the assumptions. Its clear you don't like Dre around here....but don't grasp at straws to hate on him. Just do it and dont try to disguise it as you being mad he is slow LOL
As for songs here and there....uhh its working because his 4 or 5 songs a year are usually some of the biggest hits of the entire year.
Man, ain't nobody grasping at straws to hate on Dre...Anytime someone goes against the grain, its always gotta be hate...I already said he makes good music...you just need to come to gripes with reality and quit swing'n from Dre's nuts and get a pair of your own...I don't know what's going on and neither do you...The point is that all those artist sat around for a minimum of 3 years waiting on one person to make up his mind (except 50)..You just repeated what I said about Eve in different words....Cube and Dre have been talking about working together long before 50 cent came into the picture (Helter Skelter, N.W.A. etc) and both can be blamed, one for laziness (or perfection ::)) and the other from doing movies...Point is Cube wasn't going to wait around for 5 years to do 1 album when he can do almost do 3 in that same amount of time and I wouldn't either...In business, you generally go with someone who has a known tracc record, gambling on 50 cents succes, was just that a GAMBLE that happened to pay off..50 at that time hadn't made any real noise outside of the mixtape circuit, while Cube was a well-known established artist..
What happened to Last Emperor, King T, Rakim, Truth Hurts(dropped), Hitman, Dawn Robinson etc..? Why were they never released? What's your excuse about them? They've been out of the spotlight so long, I doubt anybody is checc'n for them now outside there respective markets...Which brings me bacc to my statement about 50...He might have wanted to steal games shine, but if he hadn't of released his album that year, knowing Dre's tracc record, it probably wouldn't have been released for another year or 2... If you know your going to take your time doing things, why take on more then what you can handle and just leave people sitting on the side lines for years on end?...I'm not saying he should churn out albums every month, but I understand you look up to Dre and therefore any other opinions unlike your own are going to fall on deaf ears..
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I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"
Actually, Dre was in the middle of signing and promoting 50 cent when they first started talking. Cube just popped up and wanted to do an album. They were suppose to do an album together after Natural Born Killaz and Cube backed out. No bitching at Cube for that from you right? In business do you go with Ice Cube who may go platnium or do you ride the hottest thing out for cash? Lets put the music aside for am inute cuz Id rather of seen a Cube record with Dre but be logical here. He is in the business to make money and Cube just popped up at the wrong time.
...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him
Wrong. Dre wanted to hold off on the album because Game's shit was what was popping. His album wasn't out for more then a few weeks before Curtis "cry baby" Jackson wanted his shine in hip hop back. 50 had a problem Game was blowing up and wanted to rls the Massacre too quickly to take some of his shine because of his massive ego. Dre was holding off purposely. Makes no sense to compete with an artist on the same label but 50 has an ego so....
Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons
You are lying. How do I know? Dre sent Eve directly to RR because he knew he wouldn't be able to help her right away. She didn't leave because he took to long. She left because he told her that it would be a better look for her to be with RR and on an eastcoast label being that she is from Philly.
It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
Uhh that was Jimmy Iovine and Interscopes call. Dre does not dictate exactly when someone drops. So you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again, dood is busy and has business ventures, a label to run, and many other things. Not to mention he is a perfectionist who will spent hours on one little drum patern. You don't know what is going on so I'd chill on the assumptions. Its clear you don't like Dre around here....but don't grasp at straws to hate on him. Just do it and dont try to disguise it as you being mad he is slow LOL
As for songs here and there....uhh its working because his 4 or 5 songs a year are usually some of the biggest hits of the entire year.
Man, ain't nobody grasping at straws to hate on Dre...Anytime someone goes against the grain, its always gotta be hate...I already said he makes good music...you just need to come to gripes with reality and quit swing'n from Dre's nuts and get a pair of your own...I don't know what's going on and neither do you...The point is that all those artist sat around for a minimum of 3 years waiting on one person to make up his mind (except 50)..You just repeated what I said about Eve in different words....Cube and Dre have been talking about working together long before 50 cent came into the picture (Helter Skelter, N.W.A. etc) and both can be blamed, one for laziness (or perfection ::)) and the other from doing movies...Point is Cube wasn't going to wait around for 5 years to do 1 album when he can do almost do 3 in that same amount of time and I wouldn't either...In business, you generally go with someone who has a known tracc record, gambling on 50 cents succes, was just that a GAMBLE that happened to pay off..50 at that time hadn't made any real noise outside of the mixtape circuit, while Cube was a well-known established artist..
What happened to Last Emperor, King T, Rakim, Truth Hurts(dropped), Hitman, Dawn Robinson etc..? Why were they never released? What's your excuse about them? They've been out of the spotlight so long, I doubt anybody is checc'n for them now outside there respective markets...Which brings me bacc to my statement about 50...He might have wanted to steal games shine, but if he hadn't of released his album that year, knowing Dre's tracc record, it probably wouldn't have been released for another year or 2... If you know your going to take your time doing things, why take on more then what you can handle and just leave people sitting on the side lines for years on end?...I'm not saying he should churn out albums every month, but I understand you look up to Dre and therefore any other opinions unlike your own are going to fall on deaf ears..
I agree that DRE is a perfectionist, but homie^^^ is right. You can be the best perfectionist in the world and it still doesnt take 7 years to put out 1 album. Sure he has alot to do, but you know Dre is lazier these days...And Dont act like Dre doesnt have almost as much say as Jimmy Iovine....putting Rakim on the shelf the fuckin GOD MC, shows how lazy dre can be.
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I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"
Actually, Dre was in the middle of signing and promoting 50 cent when they first started talking. Cube just popped up and wanted to do an album. They were suppose to do an album together after Natural Born Killaz and Cube backed out. No bitching at Cube for that from you right? In business do you go with Ice Cube who may go platnium or do you ride the hottest thing out for cash? Lets put the music aside for am inute cuz Id rather of seen a Cube record with Dre but be logical here. He is in the business to make money and Cube just popped up at the wrong time.
...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him
Wrong. Dre wanted to hold off on the album because Game's shit was what was popping. His album wasn't out for more then a few weeks before Curtis "cry baby" Jackson wanted his shine in hip hop back. 50 had a problem Game was blowing up and wanted to rls the Massacre too quickly to take some of his shine because of his massive ego. Dre was holding off purposely. Makes no sense to compete with an artist on the same label but 50 has an ego so....
Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons
You are lying. How do I know? Dre sent Eve directly to RR because he knew he wouldn't be able to help her right away. She didn't leave because he took to long. She left because he told her that it would be a better look for her to be with RR and on an eastcoast label being that she is from Philly.
It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
Uhh that was Jimmy Iovine and Interscopes call. Dre does not dictate exactly when someone drops. So you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again, dood is busy and has business ventures, a label to run, and many other things. Not to mention he is a perfectionist who will spent hours on one little drum patern. You don't know what is going on so I'd chill on the assumptions. Its clear you don't like Dre around here....but don't grasp at straws to hate on him. Just do it and dont try to disguise it as you being mad he is slow LOL
As for songs here and there....uhh its working because his 4 or 5 songs a year are usually some of the biggest hits of the entire year.
Man, ain't nobody grasping at straws to hate on Dre...Anytime someone goes against the grain, its always gotta be hate...I already said he makes good music...you just need to come to gripes with reality and quit swing'n from Dre's nuts and get a pair of your own...I don't know what's going on and neither do you...The point is that all those artist sat around for a minimum of 3 years waiting on one person to make up his mind (except 50)..You just repeated what I said about Eve in different words....Cube and Dre have been talking about working together long before 50 cent came into the picture (Helter Skelter, N.W.A. etc) and both can be blamed, one for laziness (or perfection ::)) and the other from doing movies...Point is Cube wasn't going to wait around for 5 years to do 1 album when he can do almost do 3 in that same amount of time and I wouldn't either...In business, you generally go with someone who has a known tracc record, gambling on 50 cents succes, was just that a GAMBLE that happened to pay off..50 at that time hadn't made any real noise outside of the mixtape circuit, while Cube was a well-known established artist..
What happened to Last Emperor, King T, Rakim, Truth Hurts(dropped), Hitman, Dawn Robinson etc..? Why were they never released? What's your excuse about them? They've been out of the spotlight so long, I doubt anybody is checc'n for them now outside there respective markets...Which brings me bacc to my statement about 50...He might have wanted to steal games shine, but if he hadn't of released his album that year, knowing Dre's tracc record, it probably wouldn't have been released for another year or 2... If you know your going to take your time doing things, why take on more then what you can handle and just leave people sitting on the side lines for years on end?...I'm not saying he should churn out albums every month, but I understand you look up to Dre and therefore any other opinions unlike your own are going to fall on deaf ears..
I agree that DRE is a perfectionist, but homie^^^ is right. You can be the best perfectionist in the world and it still doesnt take 7 years to put out 1 album. Sure he has alot to do, but you know Dre is lazier these days...And Dont act like Dre doesnt have almost as much say as Jimmy Iovine....putting Rakim on the shelf the fuckin GOD MC, shows how lazy dre can be.
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I don't give a fucc who you are and what kind of "special talent" you have, it DOES NOT take 7+ years to put out 1 album and to produce 4 or 5 songs here and there at his leisure....Cube waited on Dre for a couple of years to do his album and before that he was suppose to be signing to Aftermath, but said the numbers weren't right and that Dre was always "too busy"
Actually, Dre was in the middle of signing and promoting 50 cent when they first started talking. Cube just popped up and wanted to do an album. They were suppose to do an album together after Natural Born Killaz and Cube backed out. No bitching at Cube for that from you right? In business do you go with Ice Cube who may go platnium or do you ride the hottest thing out for cash? Lets put the music aside for am inute cuz Id rather of seen a Cube record with Dre but be logical here. He is in the business to make money and Cube just popped up at the wrong time.
...Hell, even 50 said he had to go ahead and release "The Massacare" (or traccs from it) himself, cuz he grew tired of waiting on Dre to finish work on his album. He shelved Game before putting him on G-Unit cuz he didn't know what to do with him
Wrong. Dre wanted to hold off on the album because Game's shit was what was popping. His album wasn't out for more then a few weeks before Curtis "cry baby" Jackson wanted his shine in hip hop back. 50 had a problem Game was blowing up and wanted to rls the Massacre too quickly to take some of his shine because of his massive ego. Dre was holding off purposely. Makes no sense to compete with an artist on the same label but 50 has an ego so....
Eve left before stating that Dre took too long and other reasons
You are lying. How do I know? Dre sent Eve directly to RR because he knew he wouldn't be able to help her right away. She didn't leave because he took to long. She left because he told her that it would be a better look for her to be with RR and on an eastcoast label being that she is from Philly.
It took Busta a long ass time to finnally release his album, after losing buzz from "Touch It"...The nigga iz lazy and he gets more credit for alot of shit he doesn't deserve..Granted he makes good music, but you guyz put this dude on a pedastel, like he can do no wrong....Nobody should have to sit around and wait year after year after year for 1 dude to make up his mind
Uhh that was Jimmy Iovine and Interscopes call. Dre does not dictate exactly when someone drops. So you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again, dood is busy and has business ventures, a label to run, and many other things. Not to mention he is a perfectionist who will spent hours on one little drum patern. You don't know what is going on so I'd chill on the assumptions. Its clear you don't like Dre around here....but don't grasp at straws to hate on him. Just do it and dont try to disguise it as you being mad he is slow LOL
As for songs here and there....uhh its working because his 4 or 5 songs a year are usually some of the biggest hits of the entire year.
Man, ain't nobody grasping at straws to hate on Dre...Anytime someone goes against the grain, its always gotta be hate...I already said he makes good music...you just need to come to gripes with reality and quit swing'n from Dre's nuts and get a pair of your own...I don't know what's going on and neither do you...The point is that all those artist sat around for a minimum of 3 years waiting on one person to make up his mind (except 50)..You just repeated what I said about Eve in different words....Cube and Dre have been talking about working together long before 50 cent came into the picture (Helter Skelter, N.W.A. etc) and both can be blamed, one for laziness (or perfection ::)) and the other from doing movies...Point is Cube wasn't going to wait around for 5 years to do 1 album when he can do almost do 3 in that same amount of time and I wouldn't either...In business, you generally go with someone who has a known tracc record, gambling on 50 cents succes, was just that a GAMBLE that happened to pay off..50 at that time hadn't made any real noise outside of the mixtape circuit, while Cube was a well-known established artist..
What happened to Last Emperor, King T, Rakim, Truth Hurts(dropped), Hitman, Dawn Robinson etc..? Why were they never released? What's your excuse about them? They've been out of the spotlight so long, I doubt anybody is checc'n for them now outside there respective markets...Which brings me bacc to my statement about 50...He might have wanted to steal games shine, but if he hadn't of released his album that year, knowing Dre's tracc record, it probably wouldn't have been released for another year or 2... If you know your going to take your time doing things, why take on more then what you can handle and just leave people sitting on the side lines for years on end?...I'm not saying he should churn out albums every month, but I understand you look up to Dre and therefore any other opinions unlike your own are going to fall on deaf ears..
LOL. Nah dawg, people who dont like Dre are not hating. Don't try to put words into my mouth. What you are doing is hating as anyone can tell by how you are talking in this thread or how youve talked about Dre in other threads. Just admit you hate the man. You don't need to give us reasons, just fess up. Even tho you like some of his music you don't like him.
How the fuck are you going to sit here and say he is lazy and all that then turn around and tell ME that we don't know what is going on, on his plate? How are you going to call him lazy and then turn around and say that? Makes no sense. If you don't know what is going on then how can you say if he is busy or lazy? You can't.
As far as swinging from his nuts...why because you are giving false information and going off things youve made up or heard from someone else? I am here to speak the truth. I didn't lie about anything and I didn't make anything up. I am trying to tell you how it is. The hate in your blood is keeping you from thinking objectively.
And who said it is taking 7 years to put out an album? You guys act as if he started working on Detox the second 2001 dropped. He started the project about 2 years after and then stopped it only to restart it fairly recently. He actually had alot of the project done but scrapped it. It took him 7 years to drop 2001, was he lazy then too? The Massacre was not being held up by Dre production. Dre had 2 beats on there. Dre wanted to hold off on it so Game could continue to sell with no competition comming from an artist on the same level, plus he wanted to mix down a few tracks a little bit better. He should of too because Ski Mask Way and This is 50 could have sounded much better.
And Dre doesn't have the same pull Jimmy Iovine does. If the project is not a definite success, like a 50 cent or Eminem then Jimmy Iovine has final say. Guys like Truth Hurts, Rakim, Game were seen as people who were not definite big sellers so he jumped in. My information is from interviews done by these people. Not things I heard from someone on the net who heard from someone who said something.
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I actually agree that it could ruin the legacy.
But it would be dope.
Especially if they got Lil Eazy E to replace his father.
EvO.
if they wanna make dope music they shouldnīt let Lil E anywhere near the tracks.
Lil Eazy isn't so wack, but hell naaw he could replace his father...
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
mayne dre is lazy.....everybig time rapper has said it.from doc all the way to his buddy em....how yall think 20001 got finished. ;)
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Cube and Ren should just go ahead and do a whole album together.
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
mayne dre is lazy.....everybig time rapper has said it.from doc all the way to his buddy em....how yall think 20001 got finished. ;)
Em has never said once that Dre is lazy. That is a lie. Eminem has never said a single negative thing about Dr. Dre anywhere. You cant just make things up on the Internet and think people are going to believe you.
Truth Hurts was dropped because of the lawsuit causing them to pull her albums. Jimmy Iovine felt too much time and money was spent and that after her album got pulled there was no reason to continue to develop her as a new artist.
Rakim left himself. Not because Dre was lazy. He never once said that and Rakim is notorious for being lazy himself. He left because Dre and Iovine wanted him to do more gangsta shit. More updated gun busting type lyrics like they did with Busta. Rakim didn't want to do that so he dipped. He and Dre did like 5-6 songs and he left with all of them.
Hittman fell under the group of people who are gambles in Jimmy Iovines eyes. When someone is a gamble then Jimmy has the last say on everything in the proje
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uh yeah...Cube has been talking about a reunion since "Friday After Next" and the "Peace Disc" dropped and probably before that, and it always seems to come bacc to lazy ass Dre. If they sittin around waiting on Dre to do anything, then they gonna be some waiting muthafuccaz..Imagine if Cube waited on Dre to produce Laugh Now, Cry Later...the shit would still be "in the works" and probably wouldn't have come out until 2009. Don't hold your breath waiting for this project or Detox, as each project will probably never come out because of one lazy muthafucca...Cube should go ahead and try and get a Westside Connection reunion going if anything
I'm not really excited about this project either..bacc in the 90's it would have been great newz, but now it's like eh....plus, I don't think they should come out with an album anyway...Without Eazy, it's not gonna be the same..Lil Eazy won't cut for me either..Using some unreleased traccs from Eazy might work
Lazy ass Dre? Homay, he has alot on his plate. I do find it funny that people call him lazy when they don't know or take into consideration what he is working on. The real problem is not being lazy, it is being a perfectionist. Part of the reason he is a perfectionist is because of people, like you, who have alot of hate in your blood. If it is not top notch, people will hate because he is Dr. Dre. That is what takes so long.
When Cube was doing Laugh Now Cry Later Dre was working on Busta's album, working with Raekwon on Cuban Linx II and trying to sign him, did tracks with Game/Crooked I/ Lil Eazy/Mobb Deep/50/Snoop. That doesn't include working with Jay on his album and working on getting an Eve album out. So again, how is he lazy? Just because one guy decides he wants to do the album doesn't mean Dre should clear everything off his plate to do it.
mayne dre is lazy.....everybig time rapper has said it.from doc all the way to his buddy em....how yall think 20001 got finished. ;)
Em has never said once that Dre is lazy. That is a lie. Eminem has never said a single negative thing about Dr. Dre anywhere. You cant just make things up on the Internet and think people are going to believe you.
Truth Hurts was dropped because of the lawsuit causing them to pull her albums. Jimmy Iovine felt too much time and money was spent and that after her album got pulled there was no reason to continue to develop her as a new artist.
Rakim left himself. Not because Dre was lazy. He never once said that and Rakim is notorious for being lazy himself. He left because Dre and Iovine wanted him to do more gangsta shit. More updated gun busting type lyrics like they did with Busta. Rakim didn't want to do that so he dipped. He and Dre did like 5-6 songs and he left with all of them.
Hittman fell under the group of people who are gambles in Jimmy Iovines eyes. When someone is a gamble then Jimmy has the last say on everything in the proje
Funny how almost everyone seems to leave, manages to get shelved for years, or slowly start to distance themselves from him and Dre is never at fault according to you.....It's always someone else's fault...Your never going to get the whole entire truth from an interview cuz there's always 3 sides to a story, and unless you and I were in the room during the actually conversations, it's all speculation...Almost everyone is going to put out a "PC" statement written by the artist's manager or PR person....I guess now your going to tell me you were there during each and every conversation he's had with artists ::).....You can call it hate all you want to cuz I chose to disagree with your arguments, but IMO, he is lazy and your not going to change that, regardless of how many "interviews" you do and all the excuses you give him for it...I call how I see it
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Whens the last time you heard an MC Ren track?
He's been on 2 Guerilla Funk projects this year and came tight imo:
Paris Presents Hard Truth Soldiers Compilation
Public Enemy Featuring Paris - Rebirth Of A Nation
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i think dj quik would fit best into the new nwa
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Don't worry about it, Dre will never do a NWA record. Be happy with Chin Check and Hello.
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Don't worry about it, Dre will never do a NWA record. Be happy with Chin Check and Hello.
word,this shit will never happen. It's a shame though but I think Dre is happy with whatever he has goin on now.
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nwa was gonna male an album in 1995 until eazy dies.
eazy was saying on mt raps, yella, cube ren and eazy , but were statying "sucker free, in ninety-three", a shot at dre.
then in an interview he was like mutha fcuk a record sale, nwa was making an album with ren, eazy and yella.
he said he wud get prodn from cold187, rhtyhm d, and yella obviosuly.
i think that would hav been tight, esp if u look at its on dre where them 3 had prodn on it.
i also think , that they dont have to wait for dre, if they dont want to, cube, ren can do an album.
yella and cube actually took a picture together at hip hop honors 2006. i'l post abnother one up.
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yay, an old topic!!!!!!!!!!
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not gonna happen
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Damn, and I read it all the way thru. :(
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If Detox doesn't have a Dre/Ren/Cube/NWA track I'll be very disapointed. >:(
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Damn, and I read it all the way thru. :(
:laugh:
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dre cube ren and lil e would be dope 8)
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It would be cool for Lil E's new album, give him some buzz but they'd have to make sure that people knew that this was a one off thing.
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i actually hope that they donīt put out another NWA album coz it can only go downhill. coz Cube and Ren arenīt the rappers they used to be and Renīs actually wack as fuck these days so they should just leave the NWA legacy alone.
i agree,
time to move on fellas
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history won't repeat