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Title: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 03:25:06 PM
I'm separating this one from al Bundy's thread since that one's about 40 and Rasheed Wallace, but since a couple people on this board think Tray Deee is a God on the mic, I'm here to get everyone's opinion on this.  Don't get me wrong, Tray Deee's a good rapper, however as a lyricist, he wouldn't be considered in the top 150 (if there was ever such a list.  For those that think Tray Deee is an incredible lyricist, post a memorable verse, because none come to mind.  In the meantime, here's a list of artists that would, in a battle, embarrass Tray Deee (and people who think that he is an incredible lyricist):

Roscoe
Crooked I
The Game
Techniec
Ras Kass
Tri-Star
Sly Boogy
Xzibit
Ya Boy
Cassidy
Papoose
Domination
Fabolous
Joe Budden
Juelz Santana
Rakim
Jadakiss
Styles P
Jae Hood
Nas
Cyssero
Eastwood
2pac and Biggie (they've been dead for 10 years and Tray Deee still couldn't write a battle verse better than these two)
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on August 13, 2006, 03:28:54 PM
Definately one of the best from the west, & these people here either fell off or were never that good to begin with (in mcing):
Roscoe
The Game
Techniec
Tri-Star
Sly Boogy
Domination
Fabolous
Joe Budden
Juelz Santana
Styles P
Jae Hood
A huge lol at Domination, I understand you're a fan of his but please, don't call this guy an mc.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
Definately one of the best from the west, & these people here either fell off or were never that good to begin with (in mcing):
Roscoe
The Game
Techniec
Tri-Star
Sly Boogy
Domination
Fabolous
Joe Budden
Juelz Santana
Styles P
Jae Hood
A huge lol at Domination, I understand you're a fan of his but please, don't call this guy an mc.

even after they've fallen off, they're still better lyricists that Tray Deee
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Wild_Elmo on August 13, 2006, 03:58:48 PM
Looks like you're losing the battle. Peep the song Hard Times On Planet Earth Ft. Bad Azz
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Bigg $amo on August 13, 2006, 04:03:53 PM

Ya see my ways is to phase all them niggaz that try me
Leave em layin stiff if they ain't on IV's (beep, beep)
I beez the hardest, regardless fool
Livin life day and night stayin hard and cruel
Keep my cool, until my mood abruptly switch
Then I'm on a niggaz ass like bumpy zits (that's right)
It's no remorse when you cross my course
I'm not a hunter, but take a nigga out for sports
Don't resorts, to thinkin you could get with this
Or you will be a eulogy if you insist to diss
Mista Tray Dee, from L.O.N.G.
B.E.A.C.H., where the hardest gangstas be
Twenty-first was the worstest turf on the earth
Yet I feel I was meant to represent from birth
til I die, you wonder why it ain't no secret
Motherfuckers best be in love with this G shit
Now there's, nowhere, for me, to turn
Nowhere for me to hide from reality




I had no choice or remorse for time for puttin it down
Niggas know the scoop is stupid if they come from my town
I been around since the Jumpstreet makin it pop
Young crook keepin hook,nigga,shakin the spot
Had to be a standout not to get ran out
Look for help,you help yourself cos there's no handout
Since the city Long Beach is only G's and hos
You hold on ya heat but them fiendish foes
Trust,bust,be aware and I ain't ya curse
Cos the niggas that I dared to (?agank?) the first
Think I might be deceased 'fore I reach my calling
As long as I'm haulin my heat I'm stallin
I bring it to ya hard from the streets of life
Where niggas get rewarded to grief for strikes
Don't speak on the creep,mo' fools is listenin
And war story glory ain't worth the riskin
Real niggas still get a mob like respect
If you represent ya set,till ya bite the deck
Who I be?I'm the Dee,nigga check the file
Under G you will see not to sweat my style
I'm takin em out!



& the whole Izuwitit track... tray dee always been one of my favorites from the west he made the eastsidaz a perfect group imo. and u know he beez the hardest..


and lol @ comparing lyricists with a battle. the greatest lyricists in the games are not battle rappers and battle raps do not bring lyricsm




Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Narrator on August 13, 2006, 04:17:20 PM
and lol @ comparing lyricists with a battle. the greatest lyricists in the games are not battle rappers and battle raps do not bring lyricsm

Indeed, I was bout to say...and frankly, Tray Dee isn't really a lyricist, either.  Dude ain't on any Cube/Pac shit, and he isn't exactly a storyteller or anything either.

He does, however, have a nice mackish voice and a good ability to shift his flow at ease much like Snoop.  Long Beach niggas are probably the smoothest-flowing cats in the West.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 05:00:26 PM
and lol @ comparing lyricists with a battle. the greatest lyricists in the games are not battle rappers and battle raps do not bring lyricsm

Indeed, I was bout to say...and frankly, Tray Dee isn't really a lyricist, either.  Dude ain't on any Cube/Pac shit, and he isn't exactly a storyteller or anything either.

He does, however, have a nice mackish voice and a good ability to shift his flow at ease much like Snoop.  Long Beach niggas are probably the smoothest-flowing cats in the West.

exactly....I'm talkin strictly lyricism here....Tray Deee is average on the mic at best.  Although this board's biased towards anything DPG related is on par with Fox News bias towards the Republican Party, which explains why people on this board think he's a GOAT MC.

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 05:00:58 PM

Ya see my ways is to phase all them niggaz that try me
Leave em layin stiff if they ain't on IV's (beep, beep)
I beez the hardest, regardless fool
Livin life day and night stayin hard and cruel
Keep my cool, until my mood abruptly switch
Then I'm on a niggaz ass like bumpy zits (that's right)
It's no remorse when you cross my course
I'm not a hunter, but take a nigga out for sports
Don't resorts, to thinkin you could get with this
Or you will be a eulogy if you insist to diss
Mista Tray Dee, from L.O.N.G.
B.E.A.C.H., where the hardest gangstas be
Twenty-first was the worstest turf on the earth
Yet I feel I was meant to represent from birth
til I die, you wonder why it ain't no secret
Motherfuckers best be in love with this G shit
Now there's, nowhere, for me, to turn
Nowhere for me to hide from reality




I had no choice or remorse for time for puttin it down
Niggas know the scoop is stupid if they come from my town
I been around since the Jumpstreet makin it pop
Young crook keepin hook,nigga,shakin the spot
Had to be a standout not to get ran out
Look for help,you help yourself cos there's no handout
Since the city Long Beach is only G's and hos
You hold on ya heat but them fiendish foes
Trust,bust,be aware and I ain't ya curse
Cos the niggas that I dared to (?agank?) the first
Think I might be deceased 'fore I reach my calling
As long as I'm haulin my heat I'm stallin
I bring it to ya hard from the streets of life
Where niggas get rewarded to grief for strikes
Don't speak on the creep,mo' fools is listenin
And war story glory ain't worth the riskin
Real niggas still get a mob like respect
If you represent ya set,till ya bite the deck
Who I be?I'm the Dee,nigga check the file
Under G you will see not to sweat my style
I'm takin em out!



& the whole Izuwitit track... tray dee always been one of my favorites from the west he made the eastsidaz a perfect group imo. and u know he beez the hardest..


and lol @ comparing lyricists with a battle. the greatest lyricists in the games are not battle rappers and battle raps do not bring lyricsm

lyrically, Ya Boy's "100 Bars of Crack" > any verse Tray Deee has ever spit
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 13, 2006, 05:04:06 PM
from the eastsidaz right? that dude sucks
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 05:04:36 PM
from the eastsidaz right? that dude sucks

ya, according to this board, Tray Deee is a GOAT lyricist
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: WestCoasta on August 13, 2006, 05:04:51 PM
I don't know about a crazy lyricist... :eh:


he doesn't use big words and shit, but he is real good, rarely heard him slip up

plus the gangster persona is used well in his raps, that's basically all it is

he's got good presence tho, always makes the track that much harder when he's on it...


I wouldn't say lyrical beast tho, many people can do full songs better than he could
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Bigg $amo on August 13, 2006, 05:31:40 PM
yeah obviously hes no lyrical beast but hes pretty dope and makes a good track great sometimes..



lyrically, Ya Boy's "100 Bars of Crack" > any verse Tray Deee has ever spit

that shit was wack. obviously you dont know what "lyrical" is..
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: acgrundy on August 13, 2006, 05:36:18 PM
I'm separating this one from al Bundy's thread since that one's about 40 and Rasheed Wallace, but since a couple people on this board think Tray Deee is a God on the mic, I'm here to get everyone's opinion on this.  Don't get me wrong, Tray Deee's a good rapper, however as a lyricist, he wouldn't be considered in the top 150 (if there was ever such a list.  For those that think Tray Deee is an incredible lyricist, post a memorable verse, because none come to mind.  In the meantime, here's a list of artists that would, in a battle, embarrass Tray Deee (and people who think that he is an incredible lyricist):

Roscoe
Crooked I
The Game
Techniec
Ras Kass
Tri-Star
Sly Boogy
Xzibit
Ya Boy
Cassidy
Papoose
Domination
Fabolous
Joe Budden
Juelz Santana
Rakim
Jadakiss
Styles P
Jae Hood
Nas
Cyssero
Eastwood
2pac and Biggie (they've been dead for 10 years and Tray Deee still couldn't write a battle verse better than these two)


Lets get something straight:
I have never ever ever in my life said one thing about tray deee being a battle rapper or a lyricist.  I could give a fuck about either.  I said Tray Deee is a beast on the mic, and the best there is.  There is a whole lot that goes into "the best there is" including, lyrics, flow, voice, charisma, mic presence, etc.  Half those people in your list, I wouldn't listen to if my choices were them or Jessica Simspon.

So whatever it is you are out to prove, I don't care, I think your wrong.  If EVERY SINGLE person on this forum voted your side, except for me, I would consider everysingle person on this forum wrong.  Tray deee has never dropped a bad verse, and always makes a song better.  He is the best there is, hands down.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 05:47:24 PM
Tray deee has never dropped a bad verse, and always makes a song better

you must have missed the beginning of what I said

Don't get me wrong, Tray Deee's a good rapper, however as a lyricist, he wouldn't be considered

To your credit, I will give you that Tray Deee is very charismatic, has a unique voice, and can flow, however when you compare subject matter, versatility, and writing ability he doesn't have shit on 85% of the rappers out.  CPO Boss Hogg has a unique voice and flow, so does that make him a great lyricist?

Tray Deee has little versatility compared to many MC's.  If I want a hot 16 about the streets of Long Beach and what happens there, then I'll holla at Tray Deee.  Anything else, I'll look elsewhere.

On a side note, how much longer is he in prison?

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: acgrundy on August 13, 2006, 06:22:49 PM
I disagree with you on writing ability.  He writes about gangsta shit, and he makes it sound much more interesting than , well , anyone.  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet, big deal, I don't wanna hear about that, I listen to gangsta rap, to, well hear gangsta shit.


Tha Eastsidaz f/ FT - Hightimes
Tray Deee f/ Bad Azz - Hardtimes on planet earth
Snoop Dogg f/ Tray Deee - OJ Wake Up
Tray Deee f/ Snoop , Kokane - Now is the time
Tha Eastsidaz - Milk and Honey
Tha EAstsidaz f/ BAd azz - Nigga 4 Life
IV Life f/ Tray Deee - Cali Swangin
LBC Crew - Beware of My Crew
Tray Deee - Take Cover
Daz, Tray Deee, Snoop - Downtown Assassins
Tray Deee - I Beez tha Hardest
Tray Deee, So Sentrell - Droppin Bombs
Everysong he is on on Daz RR&GB
Everysong he is on on the 1st 19th Street Comp

and thats just a real quick list, he has a lot more.  Ain't no one fuckin with his verses on these songs.  Yeah, just about every verse is about gangsta shit, but that is what tray deee does.  He mixes up quite a few words tho, and he is very lyrical compared to most gangsta rappers.  And besides lyricism on these songs, tray deee also showcases so much more, he just takes over the songs, he is felt.  So many of your rappers listed  could never see tray deee on a song.

You are a joke with your list.  The only thing I can think of is you don't know what good rap music is.

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 13, 2006, 06:23:47 PM
  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet,
who writes about that?
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: acgrundy on August 13, 2006, 06:43:05 PM
  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet,
who writes about that?

I dunno, you tell me
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 13, 2006, 06:43:37 PM
I disagree with you on writing ability.  He writes about gangsta shit, and he makes it sound much more interesting than , well , anyone.  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet, big deal, I don't wanna hear about that, I listen to gangsta rap, to, well hear gangsta shit.


Tha Eastsidaz f/ FT - Hightimes
Tray Deee f/ Bad Azz - Hardtimes on planet earth
Snoop Dogg f/ Tray Deee - OJ Wake Up
Tray Deee f/ Snoop , Kokane - Now is the time
Tha Eastsidaz - Milk and Honey
Tha EAstsidaz f/ BAd azz - Nigga 4 Life
IV Life f/ Tray Deee - Cali Swangin
LBC Crew - Beware of My Crew
Tray Deee - Take Cover
Daz, Tray Deee, Snoop - Downtown Assassins
Tray Deee - I Beez tha Hardest
Tray Deee, So Sentrell - Droppin Bombs
Everysong he is on on Daz RR&GB
Everysong he is on on the 1st 19th Street Comp

and thats just a real quick list, he has a lot more.  Ain't no one fuckin with his verses on these songs.  Yeah, just about every verse is about gangsta shit, but that is what tray deee does.  He mixes up quite a few words tho, and he is very lyrical compared to most gangsta rappers.  And besides lyricism on these songs, tray deee also showcases so much more, he just takes over the songs, he is felt.  So many of your rappers listed  could never see tray deee on a song.

You are a joke with your list.  The only thing I can think of is you don't know what good rap music is.

I'd rather listen to Tray Deee than some of the people on my list, but at the same time, there's only so much you can write about the ghetto before it gets repetative.  Tray Deee is a good rapper, and if I'm in the mood for gangsta shit, I'll listen to a Tray Deee record...just like if I was in a pimpish mood, I'd put on a Too Short record

However. there is a HUGE difference between being a great lyricist and a great rapper, and while Tray Deee and Too Short are good rappers, they are FAR from being great lyricists.  I'm not talking about rapping about Atkins or landscape, I'm talkin about using metaphors and wordplay in addition to rappin.  If you knew anything about rap, you would know there's a big difference between someone rapping and throwing big words in there once in a while and rapping and being creative with wordplay (although there is some overkill on the usage of metaphors...Lloyd Banks is guilty of this sometimes).

Lemme put it like this, a lyricist has the versatility to rap about a bunch of different things, not just LBC gangsta shit.  You can list every single tray Deee song and point to how much of a great rapper he is, but if you look at the subject matter, he's a one dimensional gangsta rapper that can flow and has charisma.  He's talented at being a one dimensional gangsta rapper, however to say he's a great lyricist is absurd.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 13, 2006, 06:43:54 PM
  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet,
who writes about that?

I dunno, you tell me
beats me
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: The Great Elephant on August 13, 2006, 06:52:43 PM
I don't know about a crazy lyricist... :eh:


he doesn't use big words and shit, but he is real good, rarely heard him slip up

plus the gangster persona is used well in his raps, that's basically all it is

he's got good presence tho, always makes the track that much harder when he's on it...


I wouldn't say lyrical beast tho, many people can do full songs better than he could
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: WestCoasta on August 13, 2006, 09:32:40 PM
acgrundy is right tho, Tray Deee is much better than most those rappers the original post suggested
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Jome on August 13, 2006, 09:39:56 PM
Ras Kass
Xzibit
Rakim
Jadakiss
Styles P
Nas
2pac and Biggie

These are the only ones on the list that could see or surpass TrayC Deee.
LMAO @ Juelz Santana, Domination, Fabolous and Joe Budden, can you say "featherweight" ?  :laugh:


Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on August 13, 2006, 09:43:34 PM
Why the hell do people see a lyricist in Styles P???He's got the dopest album out of D-Block but he's not a great lyricist.Styles P=50 Cent.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Jome on August 13, 2006, 09:45:55 PM
^^ He's about as close to the Eastcoast version of Tray Deee as you can come, it's a fair comparison.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: WestCoasta on August 13, 2006, 10:10:25 PM
Ras Kass
Xzibit
Rakim
Jadakiss
Styles P
Nas
2pac and Biggie

These are the only ones on the list that could see or surpass TrayC Deee.
LMAO @ Juelz Santana, Domination, Fabolous and Joe Budden, can you say "featherweight" ?  :laugh:


shit, I think Tray Deee is better than Styles P, Jadakiss and Ras Kass
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Okka on August 13, 2006, 10:28:07 PM
Tray Deee>Tri-Star, Ya Boy, Cassidy, Papoose, Domination, Fabolous, Joe Budden, Juelz Santana, Styles P, Jae Hood, Cyssero & Eastwood

"Al Davis's? Nah nigga Tracey Davis
The Eastside Long Beach greatest" - Snoop Dogg

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: CanadActive on August 13, 2006, 10:34:46 PM
They put a white face on our Jesus and Hell has pledged Allegiance
Infect us with diseases, for stressing weeks they feed us
Teaching their history and dirty shit they did to me
and guarantee a PhD will truly set a nigga free
But use computers just to lose us in the meaning
creating more confusion just to take the place of humans
Assume that we just stupid when the truth is in the music
Just review what you will see before the unions' moving units
Adding flava to the state of entertainment, getting famous
Why you hating, waiting, stanking, sading taking us to Haities
Stop watch and listen,listen,pierce in this s'
simply sent for me to spit to get some sense into this verbal scripture
Ain't no way to circumvent the purposes been written
and we'll never know the end and know exactly what we're spending
Spinning in a cycle of survival or the fittest
"Hard Timez on Planet Earth" and this is only the beginning!


If this ain't lyricist...

LOL at Cassidy, Papoose, Domination, Fabolous, Joe Budden & Juelz Santana... Not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: acgrundy on August 13, 2006, 10:35:48 PM
again, I never said tray deee is the best lyricist, I said he is the best rapper.  How many times in this one thread do I need to point it out.  Just because you are great with the lyrics does not mean that you are the best rapper.  Sure Ras Kass uses tons of metaphors, and plays on words, and shit like that, but for the most part, his albums are boring.  Ras Kass is way more of a lyricist than Pac, but Pac is a way better rapper, same goes for tray deee and many other rappers.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Okka on August 13, 2006, 11:15:18 PM
"Put your brownies in your back pocket grab your strap
We banging once again cause the West is back
It's the Long Beach finest, king of Eastsidaz
Hard as a rock and raw as vaginas
I brought Snoop back to these gangsta beats
Off the No Limit tank to the turf with heat
Search the streets, the whole city heard me speak
Got flowers every hour I conserve the D
Slang dope from the throat with these vocal quotes
Only loc roll these spokes blowing notes to folks
I ain't tripping, catch me hitting six tre switches
Or dipping in the coupe with a group full of women
Dogghouse banging, all out spraying
Strategic position of power and no delaying
Crip hop this not the average rap
Get you hyped up have that ass grabbing your strap
Like a G do, we who the bustas fear
Killa Cali, big daddies only come from here
As you lying, mega don living life to roll
With them hot girls with them pretty nails and toes
From Long Beach to Crenshaw, Promona to Compton
Dirty South, Midwest and why it's popping
Tony Touch only what I rap is the truth
So keep the beat bumping while I'm up in the booth" - Tray Deee - I Can Make You Dance


"I usually take off first and ask questions never
Because the west is where the eastside rides forever
Clever as they get, miss me with that shit
Now you can bring that shit and get your lip and wig split
Keep a heat on my hip, twenty one in the clip
'Cause I bang with that Gang and the Dogg Pound clique
A zaniac, a maniac with platinum stats
Stayin' hungry as a wolf so I travel in packs
In my Nikes and Chucks, no shelltop Adidas
Just a t-shirt, khakis, and an automatic heater
Take it to the extreme, representin' to the max
Bust a slug in they tail just from eye contact
Gang affiliated tats across my arms and back
Finger tips, chest, wrist, my neck and knee caps
Peep facts, disease back to seize the juice
'Cause I be's the hardest regardless fools" - Tray Deee - I Beez The Hardest

"Comin from the city where no pity is show
And everybody want to be a G when they grown
Same song in my hood 
As it is in yourz 
They send real niggaz to the pen and score
Wars caused by yall 
A bitch is a punk 
Speakin on the ones that's the quickest to dump
Same fools ridin that'z been down for yearz
Cuz that's the shit when they around they peers
Three cheers to the turf for whatever its worth
Cuz imma represent till I'm set in the dirt 
My mentality, battle the opponent to dip
And checkin every nigga that ever wanted to step 
In my direction 
Wit a question fo testin
This action I represent fo inspection
When some jump then I'm dumpin 
Pumpin fear in ya ear 
When ya hear that I'm bumpin" - Tray Deee - Beware Of My Crew (LBC Crew)
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Okka on August 13, 2006, 11:22:52 PM
"I bang with the gang that don't need no intro
We run from East Long Beach to West South Central
Credentials, to kick flows and rip shows,
dip 4's and pimp ho's while the indo blow
You know that west coast low mentality
Focused on reality but livin in a hole notha galaxy
We keep it straight hard but guard the spot
Bangas snatch chains in the parkin lot
Don't matta there still be fine ho's to gatha
Pick about the thickest bitch and I gots to hav ha
It's routine the coupe clean let's hit the sho
You know we all fuckin once they glimpse the po
Wit the satin in my hand pack the gat on my lap
Cuz it's hatin when your skaten and your pockets is fat
Don't act for a minute like your ass surprised
Just reconize the real way that gangsta's ride" - Tray Deee - G'd Up

"Big hitters, wig splitters, give niggas the blues
Fools loud mouth we all about spittin them tools
From the coast of the locs were the Gs was born
And we raise up B.G.s to keep it goin
In the alleys, not the valleys, killa Cali the zone
Long Beach bringin heat takin off when its on
Fuck pretty, come gritty when we bring the noise
Big boys play wit keeps when we bring the toys
Wet T-shirts, we search to put in work, cuz
Come back for ya homies as you gettin ya dirt dug
Congregatin, operatin Gs and hustlas
You other muthafuckas can't concieve our structures
The DPGC, the M-O-B-B, stricly east side and we ride on G.P.
Bandanas, hoodies, timbos and chucks
Stay mashin on bustas not givin a fuck" - Tray Deee - Connected

"Gangsta gangsta, tell me how you do it
It seems so simple like there was nothin' to it
Rippin', sippin', dippin' on the fluid
West Coast nigga, yeah we be the truest" - Tray Deee - Represent Dat G.C (Kurupt)


Tray Deee never comes with a wack verse, that's why he's a dope rapper and one of the best rappers in the whole DPG...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Play Dirty on August 14, 2006, 12:31:16 AM
"I'm Mr Tray Deee
Insist ta say G
As my Title
My method mainly homicidal"  8) Out the Moon, Gridlocked Soundtrack

"Reality you battle me you'll be in the dirt quick
I'm clever with whatever type of weapon I work with"  ;) Wake Up, Tha Doggfather

Too busy to give u more ,but you are tripping. Tray Deee is nice. Being good isn't all about Punchlines and hot 16's. It's about being successful at what you are trying to do. Tray Deee is a gangsta rapper who gives us the grim realities of his experience. His only weakness is that he doesn't vary his flow enough. But his rhymes are structured and he makes more than just one word rhyme...he uses alliteration a lot!


Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Cheese on August 14, 2006, 01:45:44 AM
i woiuldnt call him a lyrical "beast", but dude's lyrical alright!
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on August 14, 2006, 02:33:53 AM
tray dee is top 5 on the coast

1. he has NEVER spit a verse less than 4/5
2. his flow is smoooth as fukk
3. while the content may be the same ole g shit we been listening to, his lyrics are good
4. homeboys double rhyming and multis are bangin and hella under rated
5. he has credibility

tray deee > kurupt since 98
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on August 14, 2006, 03:41:32 AM
As for 'Tray Deee only spits gangsta shit', I'd like to mention 'Santa Claus is coming straight to the ghetto' where he definately doesn't spit a gangsta verse. The verse is dope anyways. Another possible mention could be 'The Wall' with RBX, but then I'm not certain if the song is about gangsta shit or not.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Rudki on August 14, 2006, 05:17:51 AM
Tray Deee IS a lyrical beast, but cuz he raps about the gangsta shit he wont be regarded as one

he hung well with King T and Kool G Rap on the "nothin has changed" track, and ive never ever heard a rubbish verse from him
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: big mat on August 14, 2006, 06:35:19 AM
tray deee is most crip rapper, the most gangsta, he got that fresh gangsta slang, and he can twist some words too, he ain't a bad lyricist, but he's not a god. I really enjoy listenning his g shit
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Lord Funk on August 14, 2006, 06:42:56 AM
Tray Deee has a decent flow but it gets boring - he tends to use the same flow on most tracks. Lyrically he's not really saying much, the emphasis is on his flow and multi's rather than the actual content.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Nutty on August 14, 2006, 06:51:29 AM
I wouldn't call him a beast, but dude is definately nice on the mic! His shit flows!!!!!

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 14, 2006, 04:33:31 PM
Quick Tray Deee verse:

I'm the rawest comin' flawless from the city of gangstaz
Steady crippin never slippin when im fixin to shank ya
Erasin muthafuckaz is a sign of the times
Never fakin' steady bangin nine times outta nine
Who's the quickets to dump is regarded the baddest
Assassins mash and blast with passion but hardly get saddened


LOL...With that being said, I love Tray Deee's shit...Not a lyrical BEAST, but he can be a fine lyricist when he wants to...PeACe
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: HoodstaZ_n_Crime on August 14, 2006, 06:06:12 PM
tray deee is a MONSTA
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 14, 2006, 06:14:27 PM
They put a white face on our Jesus and Hell has pledged Allegiance
Infect us with diseases, for stressing weeks they feed us
Teaching their history and dirty shit they did to me
and guarantee a PhD will truly set a nigga free
But use computers just to lose us in the meaning
creating more confusion just to take the place of humans
Assume that we just stupid when the truth is in the music
Just review what you will see before the unions' moving units
Adding flava to the state of entertainment, getting famous
Why you hating, waiting, stanking, sading taking us to Haities
Stop watch and listen,listen,pierce in this s'
simply sent for me to spit to get some sense into this verbal scripture
Ain't no way to circumvent the purposes been written
and we'll never know the end and know exactly what we're spending
Spinning in a cycle of survival or the fittest
"Hard Timez on Planet Earth" and this is only the beginning!


If this ain't lyricist...

LOL at Cassidy, Papoose, Domination, Fabolous, Joe Budden & Juelz Santana... Not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!




i dont care about these other guys that you mentioned, but i gotta stop you when you put LOL at Cassidy...LOL at you for saying that...WOW That was real fuckin stupid, have you heard Cass??? cuz ill show you some verses he has that other rappers cant fuck with...hes got originalty, lyrics, metaphors, punchlines, everything.....
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: PLANT on August 14, 2006, 06:23:31 PM
you're a hater man........Tray Deee is a beast on the mic, everyone knows this!  I cant believe you said people like Julez Santana and Joe Buddens spit better lyrics than Tray Deee LMAO ....

Here is an example of a Julez Santana verse

I get it poppin
AYY
I get it rockin
AYY
Aint no stoppin
AYY
Juelz Santana
AYY
Dipset
AYY AYY AYY
Let me see you run it girl
AY


you call that a lyricsit?  Julez is the new Ja Rule man
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: PLANT on August 14, 2006, 06:27:50 PM
I always like this track , it was a banger back when this album came out

Snoop Dogg]
Yeah man, let me holla at my nephew Tray-Deee
Nephew, I can't believe these motherfucking stupid ass bitches man
I done told em time and time and time again
Well I guess they don't hear me
So uh, why don't you let me know
Matter fact let them know how you feel about these motherfucking hoes

[Tray Dee]
I can't explain how I came across the game I got
More likely from parlayin with these things a lot
Be on the gangsters jocks, soon as they spot that you clockin'
These snakes'll plot, and then be all in your pockets
Droppin little hints 'bout they rents and bills
When you tell em you can't help em wanna twist they grills
Like you owe em once you show em that you're interested
When they knowin you be wantin just to hit and dig
I aint got shit to give, but hard dick and conversation
And talkin end, when I commit the penetration
I toss at them, if it was proper we could kick it
When we cross again, but you know aint no commitment
I want ya when I need ya, and that's the procedure
I call you and fall through, strictly at leisure
And only keep ya, until you start to cost me
Then I reverse the game til ya back up off me
Kill em softly

HOOK:
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I say it again, Tray Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I'ma say it again, Tray-Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip

[Tray Deee over Hook]
I done peeped these knucleheads all ?? dogg
These bitches on the gold rush
This aint 1849 quit that pan handling hoe
This '99, you tryin to get yours, but I need all mine
You knowhatimsayin?

[Tray Dee]
I keep the energy caught her eyein me down
Back when she first started hangin around
In Long Beach got real deep on some real G sex
So you got served bitch now what's next
I ride on the side while we slide in my broom
Old goons can't get with the ?foon?
Naw I'm on another level, let's get in your shit
Blowin herb while we swerve and we spend your chips
Drain me and take me to the finest spots
Out the dinin shop and buy me diamond rocks
It's a privilege to get the dick and fuck wit me
Knowin the whole way I roll is in luxury
I'm a major type of player out for ruling the game
Every line I design is for schoolin a dame
When I approach I let 'em know it's all money and sex
But I gotta be blessed before we make 'em connect

[Tray Dee over Hook]
I check a bitch as quick as Goldie the mac
And keep them quarter sacks and holdin my straps
I only want what's in the middle of they laps
And plus I hump before I get 'em for they snaps
(repeat)


[Tray Dee]
I can't conceive spendin cheese just to please a broad
When eventually intentions be to leave 'em all
In the minus, no matter if they the finest
Then recognize the price come with rollin with riders
You can't expect to step up in my company
And we just fuck for free, and you not touchin me
With some fine ass why chance gettin involved
And be callin me a dogg after hittin them draws
I'm out to ball, so keep all emotions in check
And don't be tryin to test what you're sure to regret
Thinkin you gon be sinkin up inside my profits
Bitch you got twist but you needs to stop it
I'm cold on the hold like the frozen snow
For my dough unless we both tryin to make it grow
I think you know, my bank be mo', than us kickin it
What's mine is mine, but what's yours we splittin it

[Tray Deee]
I got three questions for a bitch though
Where mines at, what's takin you so long to kick it in
And how long this gon take you to get me some more hoes
You know...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 14, 2006, 07:23:22 PM
I always like this track , it was a banger back when this album came out

Snoop Dogg]
Yeah man, let me holla at my nephew Tray-Deee
Nephew, I can't believe these motherfucking stupid ass bitches man
I done told em time and time and time again
Well I guess they don't hear me
So uh, why don't you let me know
Matter fact let them know how you feel about these motherfucking hoes

[Tray Dee]
I can't explain how I came across the game I got
More likely from parlayin with these things a lot
Be on the gangsters jocks, soon as they spot that you clockin'
These snakes'll plot, and then be all in your pockets
Droppin little hints 'bout they rents and bills
When you tell em you can't help em wanna twist they grills
Like you owe em once you show em that you're interested
When they knowin you be wantin just to hit and dig
I aint got shit to give, but hard dick and conversation
And talkin end, when I commit the penetration
I toss at them, if it was proper we could kick it
When we cross again, but you know aint no commitment
I want ya when I need ya, and that's the procedure
I call you and fall through, strictly at leisure
And only keep ya, until you start to cost me
Then I reverse the game til ya back up off me
Kill em softly

HOOK:
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I say it again, Tray Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I'ma say it again, Tray-Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip

[Tray Deee over Hook]
I done peeped these knucleheads all ?? dogg
These bitches on the gold rush
This aint 1849 quit that pan handling hoe
This '99, you tryin to get yours, but I need all mine
You knowhatimsayin?

[Tray Dee]
I keep the energy caught her eyein me down
Back when she first started hangin around
In Long Beach got real deep on some real G sex
So you got served bitch now what's next
I ride on the side while we slide in my broom
Old goons can't get with the ?foon?
Naw I'm on another level, let's get in your shit
Blowin herb while we swerve and we spend your chips
Drain me and take me to the finest spots
Out the dinin shop and buy me diamond rocks
It's a privilege to get the dick and fuck wit me
Knowin the whole way I roll is in luxury
I'm a major type of player out for ruling the game
Every line I design is for schoolin a dame
When I approach I let 'em know it's all money and sex
But I gotta be blessed before we make 'em connect

[Tray Dee over Hook]
I check a bitch as quick as Goldie the mac
And keep them quarter sacks and holdin my straps
I only want what's in the middle of they laps
And plus I hump before I get 'em for they snaps
(repeat)


[Tray Dee]
I can't conceive spendin cheese just to please a broad
When eventually intentions be to leave 'em all
In the minus, no matter if they the finest
Then recognize the price come with rollin with riders
You can't expect to step up in my company
And we just fuck for free, and you not touchin me
With some fine ass why chance gettin involved
And be callin me a dogg after hittin them draws
I'm out to ball, so keep all emotions in check
And don't be tryin to test what you're sure to regret
Thinkin you gon be sinkin up inside my profits
Bitch you got twist but you needs to stop it
I'm cold on the hold like the frozen snow
For my dough unless we both tryin to make it grow
I think you know, my bank be mo', than us kickin it
What's mine is mine, but what's yours we splittin it

[Tray Deee]
I got three questions for a bitch though
Where mines at, what's takin you so long to kick it in
And how long this gon take you to get me some more hoes
You know...


when it comes to BATTLING like homie said Juelz would shit on Tray Dee. Tray Dee is gangsta though and makes really good songs, but he aint no battle rapper, but he doesnt have to be..he always spits nicely, so smooth, never really metaphorical, but always good. Lets just say Tray Dee dont drop wack verses...
But people that keep laughing at Joe Budden...How many songs have you really heard? Cuz he is one hell of a songwriter....
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 14, 2006, 07:25:36 PM
I always like this track , it was a banger back when this album came out

Snoop Dogg]
Yeah man, let me holla at my nephew Tray-Deee
Nephew, I can't believe these motherfucking stupid ass bitches man
I done told em time and time and time again
Well I guess they don't hear me
So uh, why don't you let me know
Matter fact let them know how you feel about these motherfucking hoes

[Tray Dee]
I can't explain how I came across the game I got
More likely from parlayin with these things a lot
Be on the gangsters jocks, soon as they spot that you clockin'
These snakes'll plot, and then be all in your pockets
Droppin little hints 'bout they rents and bills
When you tell em you can't help em wanna twist they grills
Like you owe em once you show em that you're interested
When they knowin you be wantin just to hit and dig
I aint got shit to give, but hard dick and conversation
And talkin end, when I commit the penetration
I toss at them, if it was proper we could kick it
When we cross again, but you know aint no commitment
I want ya when I need ya, and that's the procedure
I call you and fall through, strictly at leisure
And only keep ya, until you start to cost me
Then I reverse the game til ya back up off me
Kill em softly

HOOK:
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I say it again, Tray Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I'ma say it again, Tray-Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip

[Tray Deee over Hook]
I done peeped these knucleheads all ?? dogg
These bitches on the gold rush
This aint 1849 quit that pan handling hoe
This '99, you tryin to get yours, but I need all mine
You knowhatimsayin?

[Tray Dee]
I keep the energy caught her eyein me down
Back when she first started hangin around
In Long Beach got real deep on some real G sex
So you got served bitch now what's next
I ride on the side while we slide in my broom
Old goons can't get with the ?foon?
Naw I'm on another level, let's get in your shit
Blowin herb while we swerve and we spend your chips
Drain me and take me to the finest spots
Out the dinin shop and buy me diamond rocks
It's a privilege to get the dick and fuck wit me
Knowin the whole way I roll is in luxury
I'm a major type of player out for ruling the game
Every line I design is for schoolin a dame
When I approach I let 'em know it's all money and sex
But I gotta be blessed before we make 'em connect

[Tray Dee over Hook]
I check a bitch as quick as Goldie the mac
And keep them quarter sacks and holdin my straps
I only want what's in the middle of they laps
And plus I hump before I get 'em for they snaps
(repeat)


[Tray Dee]
I can't conceive spendin cheese just to please a broad
When eventually intentions be to leave 'em all
In the minus, no matter if they the finest
Then recognize the price come with rollin with riders
You can't expect to step up in my company
And we just fuck for free, and you not touchin me
With some fine ass why chance gettin involved
And be callin me a dogg after hittin them draws
I'm out to ball, so keep all emotions in check
And don't be tryin to test what you're sure to regret
Thinkin you gon be sinkin up inside my profits
Bitch you got twist but you needs to stop it
I'm cold on the hold like the frozen snow
For my dough unless we both tryin to make it grow
I think you know, my bank be mo', than us kickin it
What's mine is mine, but what's yours we splittin it

[Tray Deee]
I got three questions for a bitch though
Where mines at, what's takin you so long to kick it in
And how long this gon take you to get me some more hoes
You know...


when it comes to BATTLING like homie said Juelz would shit on Tray Dee. Tray Dee is gangsta though and makes really good songs, but he aint no battle rapper, but he doesnt have to be..he always spits nicely, so smooth, never really metaphorical, but always good. Lets just say Tray Dee dont drop wack verses...
But people that keep laughing at Joe Budden...How many songs have you really heard? Cuz he is one hell of a songwriter....


Sorry man...


Tray Deee >>> Juelz Santana, Joe Buddens in every aspect besides whackness...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 14, 2006, 07:29:58 PM
I always like this track , it was a banger back when this album came out

Snoop Dogg]
Yeah man, let me holla at my nephew Tray-Deee
Nephew, I can't believe these motherfucking stupid ass bitches man
I done told em time and time and time again
Well I guess they don't hear me
So uh, why don't you let me know
Matter fact let them know how you feel about these motherfucking hoes

[Tray Dee]
I can't explain how I came across the game I got
More likely from parlayin with these things a lot
Be on the gangsters jocks, soon as they spot that you clockin'
These snakes'll plot, and then be all in your pockets
Droppin little hints 'bout they rents and bills
When you tell em you can't help em wanna twist they grills
Like you owe em once you show em that you're interested
When they knowin you be wantin just to hit and dig
I aint got shit to give, but hard dick and conversation
And talkin end, when I commit the penetration
I toss at them, if it was proper we could kick it
When we cross again, but you know aint no commitment
I want ya when I need ya, and that's the procedure
I call you and fall through, strictly at leisure
And only keep ya, until you start to cost me
Then I reverse the game til ya back up off me
Kill em softly

HOOK:
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I say it again, Tray Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I'ma say it again, Tray-Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip

[Tray Deee over Hook]
I done peeped these knucleheads all ?? dogg
These bitches on the gold rush
This aint 1849 quit that pan handling hoe
This '99, you tryin to get yours, but I need all mine
You knowhatimsayin?

[Tray Dee]
I keep the energy caught her eyein me down
Back when she first started hangin around
In Long Beach got real deep on some real G sex
So you got served bitch now what's next
I ride on the side while we slide in my broom
Old goons can't get with the ?foon?
Naw I'm on another level, let's get in your shit
Blowin herb while we swerve and we spend your chips
Drain me and take me to the finest spots
Out the dinin shop and buy me diamond rocks
It's a privilege to get the dick and fuck wit me
Knowin the whole way I roll is in luxury
I'm a major type of player out for ruling the game
Every line I design is for schoolin a dame
When I approach I let 'em know it's all money and sex
But I gotta be blessed before we make 'em connect

[Tray Dee over Hook]
I check a bitch as quick as Goldie the mac
And keep them quarter sacks and holdin my straps
I only want what's in the middle of they laps
And plus I hump before I get 'em for they snaps
(repeat)


[Tray Dee]
I can't conceive spendin cheese just to please a broad
When eventually intentions be to leave 'em all
In the minus, no matter if they the finest
Then recognize the price come with rollin with riders
You can't expect to step up in my company
And we just fuck for free, and you not touchin me
With some fine ass why chance gettin involved
And be callin me a dogg after hittin them draws
I'm out to ball, so keep all emotions in check
And don't be tryin to test what you're sure to regret
Thinkin you gon be sinkin up inside my profits
Bitch you got twist but you needs to stop it
I'm cold on the hold like the frozen snow
For my dough unless we both tryin to make it grow
I think you know, my bank be mo', than us kickin it
What's mine is mine, but what's yours we splittin it

[Tray Deee]
I got three questions for a bitch though
Where mines at, what's takin you so long to kick it in
And how long this gon take you to get me some more hoes
You know...


when it comes to BATTLING like homie said Juelz would shit on Tray Dee. Tray Dee is gangsta though and makes really good songs, but he aint no battle rapper, but he doesnt have to be..he always spits nicely, so smooth, never really metaphorical, but always good. Lets just say Tray Dee dont drop wack verses...
But people that keep laughing at Joe Budden...How many songs have you really heard? Cuz he is one hell of a songwriter....


Sorry man...


Tray Deee >>> Juelz Santana, Joe Buddens in every aspect besides whackness...

How is Joe Buddens wack? have you listened to him??
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Bigg $amo on August 14, 2006, 07:36:20 PM
joe budden has dope lyrics but hes BORING AS FUCK. he makes banks look hype! but i gotta admit hes a good songwriter. but most of the dudes named are wack
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 14, 2006, 07:39:34 PM
joe budden has dope lyrics but hes BORING AS FUCK. he makes banks look hype! but i gotta admit hes a good songwriter. but most of the dudes named are wack

i think thats all opinion tho man..I really like him...Explain My life, Dumb Out, And Take a Walk wit me..Are three of the best and most intense tracks ever! Its all opinions though...Just like this argument will never come to and end...I see it like this...All rappers are tight on there own way...(almost all of them) But whose the best is merely opinion...we shouldnt be putting each other down becuz of opinions...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Bigg $amo on August 14, 2006, 07:43:46 PM
i agree with you man, its all opinions and taste...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 14, 2006, 10:53:41 PM
I always like this track , it was a banger back when this album came out

Snoop Dogg]
Yeah man, let me holla at my nephew Tray-Deee
Nephew, I can't believe these motherfucking stupid ass bitches man
I done told em time and time and time again
Well I guess they don't hear me
So uh, why don't you let me know
Matter fact let them know how you feel about these motherfucking hoes

[Tray Dee]
I can't explain how I came across the game I got
More likely from parlayin with these things a lot
Be on the gangsters jocks, soon as they spot that you clockin'
These snakes'll plot, and then be all in your pockets
Droppin little hints 'bout they rents and bills
When you tell em you can't help em wanna twist they grills
Like you owe em once you show em that you're interested
When they knowin you be wantin just to hit and dig
I aint got shit to give, but hard dick and conversation
And talkin end, when I commit the penetration
I toss at them, if it was proper we could kick it
When we cross again, but you know aint no commitment
I want ya when I need ya, and that's the procedure
I call you and fall through, strictly at leisure
And only keep ya, until you start to cost me
Then I reverse the game til ya back up off me
Kill em softly

HOOK:
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I say it again, Tray Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip
Bitches ain't shit, I said it before, and I'ma say it again, Tray-Deee
Bitches ain't shit, they only fuckin with your homies
Cuz they know you got a grip

[Tray Deee over Hook]
I done peeped these knucleheads all ?? dogg
These bitches on the gold rush
This aint 1849 quit that pan handling hoe
This '99, you tryin to get yours, but I need all mine
You knowhatimsayin?

[Tray Dee]
I keep the energy caught her eyein me down
Back when she first started hangin around
In Long Beach got real deep on some real G sex
So you got served bitch now what's next
I ride on the side while we slide in my broom
Old goons can't get with the ?foon?
Naw I'm on another level, let's get in your shit
Blowin herb while we swerve and we spend your chips
Drain me and take me to the finest spots
Out the dinin shop and buy me diamond rocks
It's a privilege to get the dick and fuck wit me
Knowin the whole way I roll is in luxury
I'm a major type of player out for ruling the game
Every line I design is for schoolin a dame
When I approach I let 'em know it's all money and sex
But I gotta be blessed before we make 'em connect

[Tray Dee over Hook]
I check a bitch as quick as Goldie the mac
And keep them quarter sacks and holdin my straps
I only want what's in the middle of they laps
And plus I hump before I get 'em for they snaps
(repeat)


[Tray Dee]
I can't conceive spendin cheese just to please a broad
When eventually intentions be to leave 'em all
In the minus, no matter if they the finest
Then recognize the price come with rollin with riders
You can't expect to step up in my company
And we just fuck for free, and you not touchin me
With some fine ass why chance gettin involved
And be callin me a dogg after hittin them draws
I'm out to ball, so keep all emotions in check
And don't be tryin to test what you're sure to regret
Thinkin you gon be sinkin up inside my profits
Bitch you got twist but you needs to stop it
I'm cold on the hold like the frozen snow
For my dough unless we both tryin to make it grow
I think you know, my bank be mo', than us kickin it
What's mine is mine, but what's yours we splittin it

[Tray Deee]
I got three questions for a bitch though
Where mines at, what's takin you so long to kick it in
And how long this gon take you to get me some more hoes
You know...


when it comes to BATTLING like homie said Juelz would shit on Tray Dee. Tray Dee is gangsta though and makes really good songs, but he aint no battle rapper, but he doesnt have to be..he always spits nicely, so smooth, never really metaphorical, but always good. Lets just say Tray Dee dont drop wack verses...
But people that keep laughing at Joe Budden...How many songs have you really heard? Cuz he is one hell of a songwriter....


Sorry man...


Tray Deee >>> Juelz Santana, Joe Buddens in every aspect besides whackness...

How is Joe Buddens wack? have you listened to him??


Joe Buddens is not really whack, but he's nothing special at all...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: J Bananas on August 14, 2006, 11:09:25 PM
I always thought Tray Dee had crack flow on pretty much everything, i wouldnt go as far as to say he's a lyrical beast because most of his lyrics are standard west coast material, but yeah he always comes on point with em no matter what he has written down on paper, fuckin awesome mc......
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Tha_Blaq_Sinattra on August 15, 2006, 01:09:32 AM
It ain't no mystery you dissin' me you dissin' my clique
And ain't no question we come steppin' straight to get in your shit
So why you actin' like a bitch? Puttin' your business on wax
When we could scrap or slap a clip, if you wanted to crack
See in the pen we got a name for niggas runnin' they yap
cell soldiers, roll 'em up with somethin' up in they back
Handles ours, battle scars, Shackles, guards and all
And we the last niggas standin' once they start to fall
Make the call, or fuck it, just kick off the brawl
Cuz I'm ridin' with my doggs, win, lose, or draw
Dogg pound insane, neighborhood twenty gangin' it
And every gangsta that I hang with down to bang
Full time pull mines and I gots to bust
Fuck a pass, when I mash, anybody get touched
So make my name taste just like a dick in your mouth
And watch the way you on my nuts when you spittin' it out
Dogghouse   "Got Beef?

By the way Stylez p is dope.   www.myspace.com/thablaqsinattra
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: WestCoasta on August 15, 2006, 01:20:16 AM
[Tray Deee]
What up cuhz? You know ain't nothin' different on mines
When I hit up motherfuckers with that look in my eyes
It's a statement that I'm makin' and ain't takin' no backtalk
I'm blowin' niggaz hats off as soon as my gat cough
The last thought you rappin' niggaz should think
Is you could never get as gangsta as Tray Deee on the beat
On the streets, over beef, you don't compete with uno
You know - the general a criminal do-low
Committed 'cause I'm wit it, then I spit it and live it
Niggaz timid in my vision, I cause tension and thinkin'
By my presence I'm the answer to societys hate
A true rider with the mind to push the mightiest weight
Fools petty and they ready, steady comin' with bullshit
A full clip what you'll get that hit like a mule kick
A sure hit, that's all I'm aimin' for when I blast
Motherfuckers hit the deck once I go in the dash

[Chorus: Snoop Dogg]
Now is the time, this is the place
To bang back the khakis with the Chuck's fat laced
West is the Coast, East is the side
Long Beach is the city where them gangstas ride
Money brings power, power bring respect
Disrespect the set I gots to grab the tec
This is how it goes and that's how it's done
Eastside 2-1 in the land of the thug

[Tray Deee]
Yeah niggaz, how you figure that the game gon' wait?
I came home straight from the pen to take yo' place
Ain't no chase, this paper comin' soon as I post up
And watch the victim clock and catch him choppin' his dope up
Fuck his hopes up - stripped, gagged, and roped up
Take the whole cut and leave him swoll and ghost up
I'm ruthless, I shoot Crips and Bloods alike
Thug for life, come and catch the slugs at night
Insane mental frame, feel no shame or pitty
Since the game is shitty I gots to bang the city
Strictly gangsta so I bring the terroristical heat
Rap, scrap, jack, and mack to reach the tip of the peak
This is the Beach, now any nigga got a rebuttal -
gon' be eatin' what he speakin' once he peek at the muzzle
Struggled hard for my title and intend to hold it
You want it? - then all invitations open

[Tray Deee]
I take seven ol' B's put 'em in the street
Then that's seven more bustas who claim they got heat
And it'll take seven more C's 'fore I start to reach
Then that's 2-1 for the set I left stretched out in the street
Tray Deee never do it easy, fool so don't expect it
Niggaz get checked and they sets disrespected
No question, I'm all you ever thought that you was
Til' you ran across the boss and now you coughin' up blood
Shoot first, fools curse 'fore they kick up dust
Clip gon' bust, then they gon' have to pick loc up
All that talkin' 'cause I'm chalkin' whole districts off
Senseless loss, a curb where niggaz piss me off
Conflict with my click, get your bitch ass touched
All my comrads bomb fast, it's as sick as fuck
2-1 'til I'm done, never run from the turf
Check the cash when we mash. always rugged, the worst

Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: D-Reborn on August 15, 2006, 01:48:51 PM
I disagree with you on writing ability.  He writes about gangsta shit, and he makes it sound much more interesting than , well , anyone.  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet, big deal, I don't wanna hear about that, I listen to gangsta rap, to, well hear gangsta shit.


Tha Eastsidaz f/ FT - Hightimes
Tray Deee f/ Bad Azz - Hardtimes on planet earth
Snoop Dogg f/ Tray Deee - OJ Wake Up
Tray Deee f/ Snoop , Kokane - Now is the time
Tha Eastsidaz - Milk and Honey
Tha EAstsidaz f/ BAd azz - Nigga 4 Life
IV Life f/ Tray Deee - Cali Swangin
LBC Crew - Beware of My Crew
Tray Deee - Take Cover
Daz, Tray Deee, Snoop - Downtown Assassins
Tray Deee - I Beez tha Hardest
Tray Deee, So Sentrell - Droppin Bombs
Everysong he is on on Daz RR&GB
Everysong he is on on the 1st 19th Street Comp

and thats just a real quick list, he has a lot more.  Ain't no one fuckin with his verses on these songs.  Yeah, just about every verse is about gangsta shit, but that is what tray deee does.  He mixes up quite a few words tho, and he is very lyrical compared to most gangsta rappers.  And besides lyricism on these songs, tray deee also showcases so much more, he just takes over the songs, he is felt.  So many of your rappers listed  could never see tray deee on a song.

You are a joke with your list.  The only thing I can think of is you don't know what good rap music is.



Real as can be, what kind of sick joke is this? Tray Deee would eat clowns like Cassidy in a second, heīs an O.G. and a great lirycist, peep the "take cover" song for example, or "there comes a time" "doin it for life" if you think he only makes LBC gangsta shit, and anyways at least heīs real, unlike so many others.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 15, 2006, 01:52:42 PM
I disagree with you on writing ability.  He writes about gangsta shit, and he makes it sound much more interesting than , well , anyone.  So he doesn't write about the latest landscape tips and atkins diet, big deal, I don't wanna hear about that, I listen to gangsta rap, to, well hear gangsta shit.


Tha Eastsidaz f/ FT - Hightimes
Tray Deee f/ Bad Azz - Hardtimes on planet earth
Snoop Dogg f/ Tray Deee - OJ Wake Up
Tray Deee f/ Snoop , Kokane - Now is the time
Tha Eastsidaz - Milk and Honey
Tha EAstsidaz f/ BAd azz - Nigga 4 Life
IV Life f/ Tray Deee - Cali Swangin
LBC Crew - Beware of My Crew
Tray Deee - Take Cover
Daz, Tray Deee, Snoop - Downtown Assassins
Tray Deee - I Beez tha Hardest
Tray Deee, So Sentrell - Droppin Bombs
Everysong he is on on Daz RR&GB
Everysong he is on on the 1st 19th Street Comp

and thats just a real quick list, he has a lot more.  Ain't no one fuckin with his verses on these songs.  Yeah, just about every verse is about gangsta shit, but that is what tray deee does.  He mixes up quite a few words tho, and he is very lyrical compared to most gangsta rappers.  And besides lyricism on these songs, tray deee also showcases so much more, he just takes over the songs, he is felt.  So many of your rappers listed  could never see tray deee on a song.

You are a joke with your list.  The only thing I can think of is you don't know what good rap music is.



Real as can be, what kind of sick joke is this? Tray Deee would eat clowns like Cassidy in a second, heīs an O.G. and a great lirycist, peep the "take cover" song for example, or "there comes a time" "doin it for life" if you think he only makes LBC gangsta shit, and anyways at least heīs real, unlike so many others.


Clowns Like Cassidy! LOL! have you heard cassidy on anything other then Hotel? I agree Tray Dee is a great artist and he never comes wack, but eat Cassidy in a second? Cmon man! LOL! any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...ill throw you some cassidy verses, if you doubt dude....
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 15, 2006, 02:08:49 PM
any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...


This hip-hop head says you're wrong... :D
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Juronimo on August 15, 2006, 02:11:18 PM
Tray Deee is the west coast Kool G Rap, listen to that song on King Tee's Thy Kingdom Come with Tray Deee and Kool G Rap.

Tray Deee is a monster. Dude's flow is sick, he flips multi's as good as anyone, he's never dropped a wack verse and his delivery is top notch. He's not as good as Nas, Pac, Big or Scarface but he's closer to those guys then he is to Game, Papoose, Styles. etc.

West Coast rappers seeing Tray Deee are Sly Boogy, Crooked I, Ras Kass, Kam and Xzibit, that's pretty much it..
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 15, 2006, 02:11:38 PM
any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...


This hip-hop head says you're wrong... :D

check the lyrics homie....how much cass you heard?
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 15, 2006, 02:13:56 PM
any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...


This hip-hop head says you're wrong... :D
Problem vs the Hustla was problem one of the most original ideas ive ever heard...He battled himself and murdered both characters...wow...his first cd wasnt that great, but his 2nd was and anytime he features on tracks he kills it and same with his mixtapes, i gave tray dee all the respect in the world, but give these 2 a mic with no beat and tray and seein cassidy!
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 15, 2006, 02:14:45 PM
any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...


This hip-hop head says you're wrong... :D

check the lyrics homie....how much cass you heard?


I've heard my share of Cassidy...Either way, Tray Deee >>> Cassidy.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 15, 2006, 02:16:37 PM
any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...


This hip-hop head says you're wrong... :D

check the lyrics homie....how much cass you heard?


I've heard my share of Cassidy...Either way, Tray Deee >>> Cassidy.

i like em both.....like i said drop the beat and let em both spit cass>>>>>tray dee
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: D-Reborn on August 15, 2006, 02:26:40 PM


Clowns Like Cassidy! LOL! have you heard cassidy on anything other then Hotel? I agree Tray Dee is a great artist and he never comes wack, but eat Cassidy in a second? Cmon man! LOL! any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...ill throw you some cassidy verses, if you doubt dude....

I dont doubt, Iīm sure Tray Deee is better in any point, and yes, I have heard more songs other then Hotel, 2 or 3 and they crap too, so I donīt wanna hear anymore from him, maybe he has really good songs, but if you have to pick a few out of a lot, itīs cause he aint really good.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 15, 2006, 02:29:06 PM


Clowns Like Cassidy! LOL! have you heard cassidy on anything other then Hotel? I agree Tray Dee is a great artist and he never comes wack, but eat Cassidy in a second? Cmon man! LOL! any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...ill throw you some cassidy verses, if you doubt dude....

I dont doubt, Iīm sure Tray Deee is better in any point, and yes, I have heard more songs other then Hotel, 2 or 3 and they crap too, so I donīt wanna hear anymore from him, maybe he has really good songs, but if you have to pick a few out of a lot, itīs cause he aint really good.

LOL! okay....listen to his whole Im a HUSTLA cd, its hot! get off the west coast bias dude....Tray Dee is sick as fuck, but i gotta stop people who call Cassidy a clown...and my point exactly you have only heard 2 or 3 songs, which makes what you say invalid....if you wanna hear some hot cassidy shit and judge for yourself ill hook you up homie...
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 15, 2006, 02:29:32 PM
any real hip hop head knows that some bullshit...


This hip-hop head says you're wrong... :D

check the lyrics homie....how much cass you heard?


I've heard my share of Cassidy...Either way, Tray Deee >>> Cassidy.

i like em both.....like i said drop the beat and let em both spit cass>>>>>tray dee


LMAO...That's retarded... and wtf? Drop the beat? What the hell are you talking about? How you flow ON A BEAT is part of being a lyricist...Tray Deee would demolish Cassidy...PeACe
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: D-Reborn on August 15, 2006, 03:14:51 PM


LOL! okay....listen to his whole Im a HUSTLA cd, its hot! get off the west coast bias dude....Tray Dee is sick as fuck, but i gotta stop people who call Cassidy a clown...and my point exactly you have only heard 2 or 3 songs, which makes what you say invalid....if you wanna hear some hot cassidy shit and judge for yourself ill hook you up homie...

Ok, i just did and i gotta say heīs not like i thought he was, it seems like he realized he was fuckin up with the hotel shit, and some songs like "the problem vs the hustla" or "get em" are dope as hell, but then you got the c-bonics song with that south-like beat man, and i dont really like south shit. Anyways, i still choose Tray Deee before Cassidy lol
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Quadruple OG on August 15, 2006, 03:57:32 PM

 get off the west coast bias dude....

It is the west coast part of the message board, but at the same time, he's right about the bias in this section.  Too many people in this section (even those claiming to be a true hip-hop head) are too much of in awe of anything DPG related to see reality.  The bias towards anything DPG related is extreme in this case because any true hip-hop head would tell you that Tray Deee, while a good rapper with charisma and flow, would be destroyed by real MC's.  Crooked I would embarrass him.  Ras Kass would embarass him.  Buddens would embarass him (his flow may be boring and lacking charisma, HOWEVER dude has the versatility to do anything and excellent wordplay compared to Tray Deee).  Cassidy would embarass him.  Lady of Rage would embarass him.  Jadakiss would destroy him?  Would you like me to continue? 

Anyone that REALLY knows hip-hop would know that as a lyricist, Tray Deee is nothing special.  All these verses people have posted prove my pont.  Most of his verses are repetative and one dimensional. 

Shit, if I had the time, I could come up with a generic Tray Deee verse and y'all would think it's the best thing to happen since the ipod.   
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 15, 2006, 04:07:34 PM

 get off the west coast bias dude....

It is the west coast part of the message board, but at the same time, he's right about the bias in this section.  Too many people in this section (even those claiming to be a true hip-hop head) are too much of in awe of anything DPG related to see reality.  The bias towards anything DPG related is extreme in this case because any true hip-hop head would tell you that Tray Deee, while a good rapper with charisma and flow, would be destroyed by real MC's.  Crooked I would embarrass him.  Ras Kass would embarass him. 

That's where it stops...And I don't even know if you can use the word embarrass, cuz Tray Deee would still come with something hard, not on-par with Crooked I or Ras Kass lyrically, but good enough to not be considered an embarrassment...


Shit, if I had the time, I could come up with a generic Tray Deee verse and y'all would think it's the best thing to happen since the ipod.   

Already did that for you VVV

I'm the rawest comin' flawless from the city of gangstaz
Steady crippin never slippin when im fixin to shank ya
Erasin muthafuckaz is a sign of the times
Never fakin' steady bangin nine times outta nine
Who's the quickets to dump is regarded the baddest
Assassins mash and blast with passion but hardly get saddened


 :D
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 15, 2006, 04:10:05 PM
Tray Dee is an all around beast, but none of his characteristics stand out realy. He's all around great at everything: great flow, great delivery, great hard hittin lyrics, great criminal record, etc.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: truedupbluedup on August 16, 2006, 01:22:04 AM
Tray Dee is an all around beast, but none of his characteristics stand out realy. He's all around great at everything: great flow, great delivery, great hard hittin lyrics, great criminal record, etc.

i can agree with that. Tray Dee always come nice and he gangsta, but there are better lyricists then him. he is one of my favorite rappers though, cuzz never comes wacc, and he has such a sicc voice, he keeps you hooked.
Title: Re: Tray Deee: Lyrical Beast?
Post by: D-Reborn on August 16, 2006, 02:04:36 AM


i can agree with that. Tray Dee always come nice and he gangsta, but there are better lyricists then him. he is one of my favorite rappers though, cuzz never comes wacc, and he has such a sicc voice, he keeps you hooked.

yeah thatīs true, Tray Deee is not the greatest lyricist, thereīs always better ones, but his style and flow is only seen in a few, cause itīs like dre says if you wanna be an artist you gotta have talent and style, not only one of em, and that what Tray Deee is, heīs not a 100% perfect lyricist but he got more flow and charisma then most "lyricist beasts", and for me itīs better like this.