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Title: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: proverbs aka DD on August 27, 2006, 05:43:40 AM
but its not ok for Game to do the same on The Documentary?

I think its kinda funny how ya'll criticize Game for name dropping when it isn't a new fad for a rapper working for Dre.

Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: The Watcher on August 27, 2006, 06:01:01 AM
how many times does Snoop name drop on doggystyle?

how many times does Game name drop on the documentary?

add it up
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on August 27, 2006, 06:23:21 AM
Haha, I knew this was gonna be a thread about Game.The answer is pretty simple, Game name drops in every single song he has & like The Watcher asked, how many times has Snoop name dropped???
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Meho on August 27, 2006, 07:06:26 AM
Haha, I knew this was gonna be a thread about Game.The answer is pretty simple, Game name drops in every single song he has & like The Watcher asked, how many times has Snoop name dropped???

Lol at even comparing Doggystyle to Documentary. Those 2 shouldnt be named in the same sentence  :P
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: No Compute on August 27, 2006, 07:32:50 AM
Yeah Snoop was hardly name dropping to the extent the Game does.

Game will name drop:

artists (usually compare himself to them or say something along the lines of - "I'm like *insert rapper* I'm *insert name of rappers song/album etc.*")
labels (not just his own)
cars (something most (wack*) rappers do) *I'm not saying Game is wack so don't start crying
clothing
footwear
Compton
basketball players
sales (nearly every song is "I'm 5 times platinum", which he isn't)

And all that will happen in one song.

Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on August 27, 2006, 07:44:59 AM
Haha, I knew this was gonna be a thread about Game.The answer is pretty simple, Game name drops in every single song he has & like The Watcher asked, how many times has Snoop name dropped???

Lol at even comparing Doggystyle to Documentary. Those 2 shouldnt be named in the same sentence  :P

tell me bout it, the documentary is far betta
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: ABN on August 27, 2006, 07:45:18 AM
well add upp Snoopīs name drops of himself in every song and heīll be about even with Game :P but i donīt care if either one of them name drops or whatever as long as the musicīs dope. and in that department Game has came thru waaaay harder then Snoop in the last year or so.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Meho on August 27, 2006, 08:36:13 AM
Yeah Snoop was hardly name dropping to the extent the Game does.

Game will name drop:

artists (usually compare himself to them or say something along the lines of - "I'm like *insert rapper* I'm *insert name of rappers song/album etc.*")
labels (not just his own)
cars (something most (wack*) rappers do) *I'm not saying Game is wack so don't start crying
clothing
footwear
Compton
basketball players
sales (nearly every song is "I'm 5 times platinum", which he isn't)

And all that will happen in one song.



Lol yeah. Jome said it the best:

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The recipe:

Dr.Dre, Dre, Doc, Doctor, D-R-E, D-R <-- Each of these must be mentioned at least once in each song for variation, or up to 12 times in total per song.
Dubs, rimz, Cadillac, Impala, Chevy, Mercedes, wheels, spinners, candy paint <-- See above.
Compton, CPT, L.A., N.Y., Yonkers, etc. + crip/blood <-- To get the proper respect, throw in a couple of these at random times.
Nas, Eazy-E, B.I.G., Jay-Z, 2Pac, N.W.A., Snoop Dogg <-- At least 5 of these must be mentioned in every song, preferably repeated in the chorus for max name recognition.
Nike, Chuck Taylors, Adidas, Reebok, Converse, All-stars, Hurricanes, etc. <-- Sponsored shoutouts to various shoe companies must be placed strategically in every song.

Don't even try to deny it.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on August 27, 2006, 09:39:12 AM
Who cares about this seriously. To tell you the truth thats what i kinda liked that about game how he uses names to rap.
Watch me take flight like tom cruse
i was pluged to a iv then dre hooked me up with ivine
lets get this firm like foxy nas and az

I think some of then are realy clever.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: proverbs aka DD on August 27, 2006, 09:42:56 AM
i love how everyone avoids the question.

go back and listen to doggystyle.. on almost every single, snoop name drops Dre, death row, dogg pound and a gun.

i understand some of ya'll cant relate it b/c the materialistic ideas werent the same in the 90s, but it was the same concept.

both albums are dope, so no hate to either.. but i think people take it waaaaaay too far about game. as if nobody else be doing what he does.

and to the guy who just posted before me.. i agree. i like the way he name drops.. i think kanye west has a similar style.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Monotone on August 27, 2006, 10:15:24 AM
I dont think theres anything wrong with shouting out your crew on a record like snoop did

Game takes it overboard...some people like it some people dont, its cool at first but starts to get played out real quick, also takes away from the replay value imo
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: OSIRUS on August 27, 2006, 10:25:54 AM
why should this perplex the original poster?

i agree with the guy a few posts above who basically said  that as long as the music is good it dont matter!

OSIRUS    1
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Jome on August 27, 2006, 11:49:11 AM
Lol yeah. Jome said it the best:

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The recipe:

Dr.Dre, Dre, Doc, Doctor, D-R-E, D-R <-- Each of these must be mentioned at least once in each song for variation, or up to 12 times in total per song.
Dubs, rimz, Cadillac, Impala, Chevy, Mercedes, wheels, spinners, candy paint <-- See above.
Compton, CPT, L.A., N.Y., Yonkers, etc. + crip/blood <-- To get the proper respect, throw in a couple of these at random times.
Nas, Eazy-E, B.I.G., Jay-Z, 2Pac, N.W.A., Snoop Dogg <-- At least 5 of these must be mentioned in every song, preferably repeated in the chorus for max name recognition.
Nike, Chuck Taylors, Adidas, Reebok, Converse, All-stars, Hurricanes, etc. <-- Sponsored shoutouts to various shoe companies must be placed strategically in every song.

Don't even try to deny it.

He sure did.
Why would anybody even bother to deny this, much less compare it to Snoop..  ???


Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 11:51:28 AM
Im sorry but Jome and Detox need to lay off Game.  Im sorry but no one in the G-Unit camp can even hold Game's jockstrap.

Game > 50, mop, mobbdeep, banks, buck

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Jome on August 27, 2006, 11:57:10 AM
Haha, the Dipset jockstrap acts like his opinion matters to anybody.

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.

Buck better than Havoc, Lil Fame, Billy Danze, and even Banks, riiiiight.  ::)
Just goes to show how little you know, probably started listening to rap when Cam'Ron announced Dipset.

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top 5 Rappers In The Game. Killa, Yukmeezy, Joey, Cass, Ya Boy.

Hahahahahaha, no further proof needed, maybe add Jim Jones & Juelz Santana to it ?? Lame.
Back on topic; Snoop namedrop 1 rapper for each time Game namedrop 20, bottom line.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Meho on August 27, 2006, 12:00:30 PM
Lyrically: 50, Banks, Buck, M.O.P., Havoc >> Game
            Game >> Yayo, Spider, P   
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: xover on August 27, 2006, 12:02:17 PM
I dont think theres anything wrong with shouting out your crew on a record like snoop did

Game takes it overboard...some people like it some people dont, its cool at first but starts to get played out real quick, also takes away from the replay value imo
^^^^^^^^^^^^^what he said..
funny thing was game never name dropped BWS once...
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: gamespitgame on August 27, 2006, 12:06:32 PM
Shoutin out your own crew and shoutin out everyone in the music/acting biz is different. When Snoop came out he shouted his OWN crew and guess what happened, damn near EVERY PERSON he mentioned got heat around their names and were able to do their own thing (daz, kurupt, warren g, lil half dead, trey dee, C-style, etc). You didn't even have to know how to rap if Snoop shouted you out everyone wanted to know who you were and a deal was automatic. Who has game really plugged in like that????? I ain't callin' Game a groupie, but thats what it looks like when you have your own crew you barely mention, but will shout out damn near every celeb you've ever come in contact with for that association. Blow up your dogs and get that cheeze, fuck lettin everyone know about the "popular" people you know.

Why did I even respond to this anyway?
The rap game ain't what it used to be....
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 12:10:34 PM
Haha, the Dipset jockstrap acts like his opinion matters to anybody.

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.

Buck better than Havoc, Lil Fame, Billy Danze, and even Banks, riiiiight.  ::)
Just goes to show how little you know, probably started listening to rap when Cam'Ron announced Dipset.

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top 5 Rappers In The Game. Killa, Yukmeezy, Joey, Cass, Ya Boy.

Hahahahahaha, no further proof needed, maybe add Jim Jones & Juelz Santana to it ?? Lame.
Back on topic; Snoop namedrop 1 rapper for each time Game namedrop 20, bottom line.


LMAO!!! AHAHAHAHAH.  Please tell me you dont think anyone from the Gunit can fuck w/ Joey?  Dude first off Budden is on a whole different level than anyone from the gunit.  Have you ever heard Dumb Out, Three Sides To A Story, Explain My Life? This aint even a opinion if you think Joey is Wack then you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RAP.  And have you even ever heard Yuk or Cass spit before?  And what about Ya Boy?  Can anyone from the G-Unit camp make a song like 100 bars of crack?  I think not.  I guess you just dont like good music, I like Mitchy alot but you even called his album the best westcoast album of the year hahahaha.  Im sorry but if you think Budden or Yukmouth is wack then you need to WAKE THE FUCK UP.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Oklin on August 27, 2006, 12:16:26 PM
i dont get all this arguing.. its all opinions.. why become mad because someone got another opinion than yourself?
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 12:25:50 PM
i dont get all this arguing.. its all opinions.. why become mad because someone got another opinion than yourself?

I agree, you would have to ask Jome, cause I dont know either.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Jome on August 27, 2006, 12:55:39 PM
^^ LoL @ playing innocent, you started the shit, and you also went off-topic:

Im sorry but Jome and Detox need to lay off Game.  Im sorry but no one in the G-Unit camp can even hold Game's jockstrap.

Game > 50, mop, mobbdeep, banks, buck

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.


LMAO!!! AHAHAHAHAH.  Please tell me you dont think anyone from the Gunit can fuck w/ Joey?  Dude first off Budden is on a whole different level than anyone from the gunit.  Have you ever heard Dumb Out, Three Sides To A Story, Explain My Life? This aint even a opinion if you think Joey is Wack then you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RAP.  And have you even ever heard Yuk or Cass spit before?  And what about Ya Boy?  Can anyone from the G-Unit camp make a song like 100 bars of crack?  I think not.  I guess you just dont like good music, I like Mitchy alot but you even called his album the best westcoast album of the year hahahaha.  Im sorry but if you think Budden or Yukmouth is wack then you need to WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Can't do anything else than laugh at this.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: J$crILLa on August 27, 2006, 01:03:08 PM
i dont mind name dropping

2 great albums and doggystyle is a classic
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Diabolical on August 27, 2006, 01:09:41 PM
Even if Snoop name dropped Dre. DPG and DR on Doggystyle 500 times atleast he was actually on the label and knew the people/wasn't using them to get ahead. Game name dropps Eazy and them like he's best friends w/ them when i think he met Eazy like once maybe twice.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: The King on August 27, 2006, 02:01:36 PM
Im sorry but Jome and Detox need to lay off Game.  Im sorry but no one in the G-Unit camp can even hold Game's jockstrap.

Game > 50, mop, mobbdeep, banks, buck

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Game is a terrible rapper. Banks, Buck, MOP are better. And Snoop works with DPG and Snoop, Game name drops people hes never even worked with, let alone even met. How can you say Game is a good rapper with those aweful generic lyrics. At least MOP and Buck have energy in their lyrics.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: WestCoasta on August 27, 2006, 02:08:57 PM
wow so much knowledge, I didn't know you were all professional rappers
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Oklin on August 27, 2006, 02:13:39 PM
wow so much knowledge, I didn't know you were all professional rappers
+1
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: proverbs aka DD on August 27, 2006, 02:33:43 PM
I don't think BWS was even a label or much when Game dropped the Documentary.... Thats why he named dropped Dre, 50 and G-Unit. He rapped about Eazy because he is a legend that should have a lot more respect from all of you fellow westcoasters (just like how EVERY houston rapper name drops DJ Screw)

But some of ya'll still don't get the point..

Lets talk about Eminem.. When he came out with his first 2 mainstream albums.. He was name dropping Dre, Shady, his momma, halley, drugs and pop artists on every song. Some of ya'll consider him a legend from those 2 albums.. There was a 'formula' that worked for those albums lyrics. Now that Em doesn't rap about most of those things anymore, ya'll say he fallen off.

Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: No Compute on August 27, 2006, 02:43:33 PM
Neither Eminem or Snoop Dogg name drops to the extent The Game does, saying they do is idiocy. Nobody is denying that other rappers name drop, it's just that Game does it more and seems to do just for the sake of doing it. For example everybody knows Game was/is affiliated with Dre so he has no need to mention Dre on every track he does, Game is just very uncreative in his lyrics.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: proverbs aka DD on August 27, 2006, 02:48:19 PM
Neither Eminem or Snoop Dogg name drops to the extent The Game does, saying they do is idiocy. Nobody is denying that other rappers name drop, it's just that Game does it more and seems to do just for the sake of doing it. For example everybody knows Game was/is affiliated with Dre so he has no need to mention Dre on every track he does, Game is just very uncreative in his lyrics.


everyone knows that snoop is affilated with dpg, dre and Dr.. there was no need for him to do it on every song..

and the same goes for eminem and his 'issue' dropping.. we know he doesnt like kim, we know he doesn't like his mom, we know who hallie is, we know that he does drugs, we know that 'dre sent him'.. lol.. and we know that he doesn't like britney spears.


if you don't agree with my statement, then its fine.. but no need to refer to it as idiocy... i mean.. we can always just prove our points by pulling up snoops and eminem's lyrics and ctrl + f and type in the keywords that you find repetiviely in their lyrics..

maybe you should do that first before you consider something idiocy.. ;)
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: No Compute on August 27, 2006, 02:54:29 PM
You seem to be missing that Snoop never name drops the same stuff everysong like Game, sure he name dropped Dre but not every track.

GAME NAME DROPS MORE

that's why he gets called out on it, simple
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Tha G In Deee on August 27, 2006, 03:04:28 PM
Who cares about this seriously. To tell you the truth thats what i kinda liked that about game how he uses names to rap.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: R-Tistic on August 27, 2006, 03:06:08 PM
Neither Eminem or Snoop Dogg name drops to the extent The Game does, saying they do is idiocy. Nobody is denying that other rappers name drop, it's just that Game does it more and seems to do just for the sake of doing it. For example everybody knows Game was/is affiliated with Dre so he has no need to mention Dre on every track he does, Game is just very uncreative in his lyrics.


everyone knows that snoop is affilated with dpg, dre and Dr.. there was no need for him to do it on every song..

and the same goes for eminem and his 'issue' dropping.. we know he doesnt like kim, we know he doesn't like his mom, we know who hallie is, we know that he does drugs, we know that 'dre sent him'.. lol.. and we know that he doesn't like britney spears.


if you don't agree with my statement, then its fine.. but no need to refer to it as idiocy... i mean.. we can always just prove our points by pulling up snoops and eminem's lyrics and ctrl + f and type in the keywords that you find repetiviely in their lyrics..

maybe you should do that first before you consider something idiocy.. ;)

I see it like this.....

1. Snoop, Em, and no one else really name drop names as much as Game, and when they do, it's not for the same purpose......As said before, Game does it in overdone attempts to appeal to other regions and to kiss up to certain artists....to the point that it's laughable when he disses these same artists later on.

2. Snoop came out in 1993, when rap was a whole lot different, and he wasn't comin out droppin names to say "I'm as good as/better than Rakim, Eazy, Cube, etc. etc. etc."...he was droppin names of people who he worked with, and with Snoop, no one ever cared much about what he said. It was all about his style, delivery, flow, voice, and personality. With Game, he is aiming to be respected as a top lyricist, and always mentions how he wants to be a legend and how he is the best rapper out....but he doesn't do much to prove that when he just name drops over and over and over and over.

3. Snoop name dropped people he was cool with as we have said 100 times.....but I don't think it has sunk in to some of y'all yet.....it is a MAJOR difference to drop these names, versus dropping names of people you've never met, and names of people who don't even like you (Jay-Z). Along with that, when Snoop was name dropping labels and west coast related items, it was back when these items were first becoming famous, and his name dropping made them famous. Nobody was really rappin about Lowriders, chucks, or weed like Snoop was before he dropped...he made those items be seen as west coast items you know? So with Game, it was definitely a good idea to remind people that these things are related to the west coast.......but he does it over, and over, and over....and over, and over....and over...a....n..d...o..veeer.........to the point that he does it a LOT more than Snoop ever did!

4. Game doesn't stay on topic nearly as much, and he will seemingly name drop whenever he is stuck....and damn, thinkin about it, I just don't see how you can even compare Snoop's name dropping to Game's, especially when you compare their singles. Look at Gin and Juice, then look at Murder was the case....these songs had specific topics, and he didn't mention anything that threw these songs off.....when he mentioned Dre's name, it fit perfect....."Dre got some bitches from the city of Compton".....and Dre made the beat, so it just worked. But listen to "Hate it or love it", and see how much more off topic Game is compared to 50 Cent.....then listen to Dreams, and see how he kept referencing other producers and artists he had never met.....then listen to "Put u on the game" and see how he still continued to reference to these artists he never met............now, am I really saying that this is a problem? Honestly, it didn't bother me much, but I can see why it did annoy people. But now we are seeing that Game has a new single, One Blood, and he is STILL using the same exact techniques of dropping these names and making himself sound like he is as important and as dope as these legends!! That there is where the problem is!!!

So overall.........to summarize the difference, Snoop was more on some "I got Dre in the back, we sippin on a 40 in our low low, with DPG on the side"......when Game is more "I am in my cherry red impala, I'm a blood, I am the next Pac/Big/Jay/Cube/Nas, this album you are listening to is as good as Doggystyle Illmatic and Reasonable Doubt", which is a major difference to me.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: proverbs aka DD on August 27, 2006, 03:50:15 PM
im not going to quote you to save space.

your 'analysis' of game's lyrics/reasoning doesn't match up to the actual lyrics. I understand the point you are trying to make, but if i was a newbie to rap and i pulled up game's lyrics on the web, it doesn't match your point.

1. The issue isn't narrowed to 'name dropping'. this isn't a game to compare who game worked with to who he shouts out. So stop trying to twist it that way. The issue is using a 'formula' way of creating lyrics to sell records. My point is that Snoop and Eminem (both artists that came under Dre's wing) used a certain 'formula' to writing their lyrics. They said the same things in their records to appeal to the masses. Go listen to "gin and juice" and "Whats my name".. in fact go listen to the whole album. Snoop lyrics are formulated the same way. He name drops, he talks about the same 6-4s, the same drugs, the same guns, his n-u-ts,. The only songs he didn't stick to the formula were the ones he completly bit from other artists 'lodi dodi'.

He couldn't do the same thing for DoggFather and so he had to change his formula... Hence is why people say Snoop's style and flow has fallen off... Do you think it was a mere coincidence when people said that Snoop's lyrics and flow weren't good when Dre left him?

2. Eminem did the same thing. By the time his first album was done, the whole world knew he hated his wife, hates his mother, has a daughter named hallie, does drugs and oh yea, Dre does his beats.. The second album was more of the same.. but ya'll loved it and bought it. Infact, there is a skit on the album that pokes fun of it... Do you remember the skit?

Now that eminem isn't hating on his mother, killing his wife, doing drugs and relying on dre's beats his music seem to fallen off. do you think it is a coincidence?

3. Game is just following the same formula. Considering that 50 Cent and Game acknowledge that 50 wrote the songs you've noted, it seems that they know the formula and know it works well.. which is why they are in the business and we aint.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 27, 2006, 04:08:31 PM
but its not ok for Game to do the same on The Documentary?

I think its kinda funny how ya'll criticize Game for name dropping when it isn't a new fad for a rapper working for Dre.



first of all, Doc and Doggstyle shouldn't even be mentioned together



and Snoop mentions there names once in a while, but Game name drops every line so he sounds more important



why does Game need to drop Dre's name every 13 seconds?
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Javier on August 27, 2006, 04:10:23 PM
Well Snoop's and Eminem's "formula" was way more fucking creative than what the Game is doign right now. 
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Meho on August 27, 2006, 04:14:17 PM
Can you please STOP comparing Game to 93 Snoop
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: PLANT on August 27, 2006, 05:33:58 PM
I dont understand why Game has to talk about Jay Z, Nas, Beyonce, Pac, Dre and whoever else in every song......Like you guys already said, the people Snoop talks about are his boys and the dudes hes hanging with and making records with....Snoop aint dropping names just to get attention and create controversy
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: LakersAlldaWay on August 27, 2006, 06:39:24 PM
I think you have to look at who is rapping.

Jayceon Taylor is "The Game" so I mean that is his so called gimmick on the mic. His lyrics are, for the most part, about the rap game and the people involved in it.

I think the bottom line is to stop over analyzing this shit. Think about whether you like the music or not, then move on.

Oh and to that person who said that MOP, Havoc, 50 and all those G-Unit cats are lyrically better than Game...you are seriously kidding yourself.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 07:00:10 PM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game

Right now, Game > Snoop EASILY
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Javier on August 27, 2006, 07:12:49 PM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game




People are referring to the Doggystle Snoop vs the current Game.  Don't disrespect Snoop please
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: PLANT on August 27, 2006, 07:15:51 PM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game




People are referring to the Doggystle Snoop vs the current Game.  Don't disrespect Snoop please
look at his top 5 rappers...Im not suprised at his comments.....He just doesnt realize, due mostly to the fact he was prolly only a 2 year old when Doggystyle came out
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 07:20:15 PM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game




People are referring to the Doggystle Snoop vs the current Game.  Don't disrespect Snoop please
look at his top 5 rappers...Im not suprised at his comments.....He just doesnt realize, due mostly to the fact he was prolly only a 2 year old when Doggystyle came out

HAHAHAHAHAHAH ya'll are some hatin faggots.  Listen to Budden before you disrespect him. LOL Plant at you sucking Kurupt and Snoop's dick but making fun of Ya Boy and Yukmouth HAHAHAHAHA.  Have you ever heard Ya Boy spit before?  And laughing at Cassidy hahaha!  Dude dont get fooled by "Hotel"  Cass has skills all over the place.  And how many rappers are 5 out of 5 in making dope records like Cam??  You dont even listen to these rappers so you have NO ROOM TO TALK!  I listen to everything DPG releases so when I say its ass its cause I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO IT.  Grow up Plant there are other rappers besides Snoop and Cube, sorry homie its not 1995 anymore, and no matter how hard you try it aint gonna be 1995 ever again, DEAL WITH IT!
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: PLANT on August 27, 2006, 07:27:54 PM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game




People are referring to the Doggystle Snoop vs the current Game.  Don't disrespect Snoop please
look at his top 5 rappers...Im not suprised at his comments.....He just doesnt realize, due mostly to the fact he was prolly only a 2 year old when Doggystyle came out

HAHAHAHAHAHAH ya'll are some hatin faggots.  Listen to Budden before you disrespect him. LOL Plant at you sucking Kurupt and Snoop's dick but making fun of Ya Boy and Yukmouth HAHAHAHAHA.  Have you ever heard Ya Boy spit before?  And laughing at Cassidy hahaha!  Dude dont get fooled by "Hotel"  Cass has skills all over the place.  And how many rappers are 5 out of 5 in making dope records like Cam??  You dont even listen to these rappers so you have NO ROOM TO TALK!  I listen to everything DPG releases so when I say its ass its cause I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO IT.  Grow up Plant there are other rappers besides Snoop and Cube, sorry homie its not 1995 anymore, and no matter how hard you try it aint gonna be 1995 ever again, DEAL WITH IT!
sorry homeboy, I didnt mean to hurt your feelings :-*

BTW, I been bumping Ya Boy all the time lately, I have a copy of Rookie of the Year, I have 3 Camron albums and Cassidys album, so dont try and act like I dont listen to music.....I guarantee you I listen to more shit than youve ever heard of, including rap and non-rap.  And Im sure I speak for the rest of DubCC when I say that Joe Buddens, Cassidy, Ya Boy, Yukmouth and Camron ARE NOT the top 5 rappers out there LMAO
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 07:33:46 PM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game




People are referring to the Doggystle Snoop vs the current Game.  Don't disrespect Snoop please
look at his top 5 rappers...Im not suprised at his comments.....He just doesnt realize, due mostly to the fact he was prolly only a 2 year old when Doggystyle came out

HAHAHAHAHAHAH ya'll are some hatin faggots.  Listen to Budden before you disrespect him. LOL Plant at you sucking Kurupt and Snoop's dick but making fun of Ya Boy and Yukmouth HAHAHAHAHA.  Have you ever heard Ya Boy spit before?  And laughing at Cassidy hahaha!  Dude dont get fooled by "Hotel"  Cass has skills all over the place.  And how many rappers are 5 out of 5 in making dope records like Cam??  You dont even listen to these rappers so you have NO ROOM TO TALK!  I listen to everything DPG releases so when I say its ass its cause I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO IT.  Grow up Plant there are other rappers besides Snoop and Cube, sorry homie its not 1995 anymore, and no matter how hard you try it aint gonna be 1995 ever again, DEAL WITH IT!
sorry homeboy, I didnt mean to hurt your feelings :-*

BTW, I been bumping Ya Boy all the time lately, I have a copy of Rookie of the Year, I have 3 Camron albums and Cassidys album, so dont try and act like I dont listen to music.....I guarantee you I listen to more shit than youve ever heard of, including rap and non-rap.  And Im sure I speak for the rest of DubCC when I say that Joe Buddens, Cassidy, Ya Boy, Yukmouth and Camron ARE NOT the top 5 rappers out there LMAO

Again its all OPINIONS!! The only rappers that can fuck w/ those 5 right now are  Sly Boogy, Chino XL, and Crooked I!  AND THATS IT! Well J.R Writer is great to :P
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 27, 2006, 07:48:13 PM
Just curios Plant, who do you think are the 5 best right now?
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Turf Hitta on August 27, 2006, 09:25:16 PM
Haha, I knew this was gonna be a thread about Game.The answer is pretty simple, Game name drops in every single song he has & like The Watcher asked, how many times has Snoop name dropped???

Lol at even comparing Doggystyle to Documentary. Those 2 shouldnt be named in the same sentence  :P

finally somebody with some damn sense
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: smp4life on August 27, 2006, 10:30:45 PM
To me, ever since Eminem came out, and yes he changed the game, rappers have been trying to insert pop culture references into their rhymes/ punchlines.  Game takes it to the extreme though. But, i do like the documentary. "Snoop C-walking on the devil's rooftop..."

Also Game > banks, hell Bushwick > Banks.

Also, listen to  Budden's "Dumb Out" that's the shit right there.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Nutty on August 27, 2006, 11:59:04 PM
Never really noticed the name-dropping on Doggystyle all these years, but I was juss listening to the album today and heard this from Kurupt on 'For All My Niggaz & Bitchez'

'Now who, drops (ruff rhymes) I gots the Juice like 2Pac...'

'Who's jokin?  Rakim never joked, so why should I loc?....'

'Runnin em like Flo Jo, stranded on Death Row.....'

I dun mind name-dropping personally, as long as it's not over the top.

Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: reguLAtor on August 28, 2006, 01:09:03 AM
Dropping a name like "Flo-Jo" is like using a name like Abe Lincoln.  In 10 years you'll STILL know who the fcck they're talking about.  I guess it depends on the overall popularity/quality of the name.  Name-dropping current pop culture on an album is probably good for radio play and record sales... but in terms of longevity and re-playability, I think it hurts. It has the potential to 'date' the track and make it weaker a few years or shit, even months down the road.  Like if someone dropped a name like Malcolm X vs. Ryan Seacrest... I bet in 10 years people will be scratching their heads wondering who the hell Ryan Seacrest is.  ( Let's hope so at least ) 
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: $Eg2$ on August 28, 2006, 12:32:09 PM
every1 knows u cant talk about Snoop, Dre or the Dpg cuz all these catz get hurt by it.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on August 28, 2006, 02:00:11 PM
well add upp Snoopīs name drops of himself in every song and heīll be about even with Game :P but i donīt care if either one of them name drops or whatever as long as the musicīs dope. and in that department Game has came thru waaaay harder then Snoop in the last year or so.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: LooN3y on August 28, 2006, 02:09:10 PM
Haha, I knew this was gonna be a thread about Game.The answer is pretty simple, Game name drops in every single song he has & like The Watcher asked, how many times has Snoop name dropped???

Lol at even comparing Doggystyle to Documentary. Those 2 shouldnt be named in the same sentence  :P

tell me bout it, the documentary is far betta

hahahaha
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: arsonist on August 28, 2006, 02:52:14 PM
YALL NEED TO STOP HATING ON GAME. SHIT WHEN FIDDY WAS ON HIS ALBUM, VICE VERSA U WHERE ON HIS DICK. YALL STILL THE SAME OL' 50 CENT DICK RIDERS. I'M BOUT THE WEST COAST, SO FAR HE IS THE ONLY ONE, CAUSE OF GAME WE THE WEST IS FINALLY STARTING TO EAT AGIAN. SOON 50 GONNA HAVE TO RUN SOUTH AFTER LIL EAZY AND THE REST OF THE WEST CLAIM THE THRONE. U KNOW, I HEARD SNOOP WAS DOING SOME IN DIRECT DISSIN TO 50 ON THE END OF BEEF 3. I DOUBT IT, CUZ HE EVEN HELPING THE WEST. BUT, PERIOD FUCK 50, HE ACTING LIKE HE OWN AFTERMATH, AND HE IS DRE BOSS. ALL THE TALKIN IN THE INTERVEIWS, DAMN, DRE IS DUMB HIM SELF LETTING FIF SAY THAT SHIT. FIF EVER COME AROUND ME, MY CLICK IS KILLAS AND WE DONE PUT IN WORK. STILL WE AIN'T SAY HOLLA.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: reguLAtor on August 29, 2006, 12:18:00 AM
YALL NEED TO STOP HATING ON GAME. SHIT WHEN FIDDY WAS ON HIS ALBUM, VICE VERSA U WHERE ON HIS DICK. YALL STILL THE SAME OL' 50 CENT DICK RIDERS. I'M BOUT THE WEST COAST, SO FAR HE IS THE ONLY ONE, CAUSE OF GAME WE THE WEST IS FINALLY STARTING TO EAT AGIAN. SOON 50 GONNA HAVE TO RUN SOUTH AFTER LIL EAZY AND THE REST OF THE WEST CLAIM THE THRONE. U KNOW, I HEARD SNOOP WAS DOING SOME IN DIRECT DISSIN TO 50 ON THE END OF BEEF 3. I DOUBT IT, CUZ HE EVEN HELPING THE WEST. BUT, PERIOD FUCK 50, HE ACTING LIKE HE OWN AFTERMATH, AND HE IS DRE BOSS. ALL THE TALKIN IN THE INTERVEIWS, DAMN, DRE IS DUMB HIM SELF LETTING FIF SAY THAT SHIT. FIF EVER COME AROUND ME, MY CLICK IS KILLAS AND WE DONE PUT IN WORK. STILL WE AIN'T SAY HOLLA.


Only one mentioning 50 is YOU.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 29, 2006, 12:47:40 AM
^^ LoL @ playing innocent, you started the shit, and you also went off-topic:

Im sorry but Jome and Detox need to lay off Game.  Im sorry but no one in the G-Unit camp can even hold Game's jockstrap.

Game > 50, mop, mobbdeep, banks, buck

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.


LMAO!!! AHAHAHAHAH.  Please tell me you dont think anyone from the Gunit can fuck w/ Joey?  Dude first off Budden is on a whole different level than anyone from the gunit.  Have you ever heard Dumb Out, Three Sides To A Story, Explain My Life? This aint even a opinion if you think Joey is Wack then you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RAP.  And have you even ever heard Yuk or Cass spit before?  And what about Ya Boy?  Can anyone from the G-Unit camp make a song like 100 bars of crack?  I think not.  I guess you just dont like good music, I like Mitchy alot but you even called his album the best westcoast album of the year hahahaha.  Im sorry but if you think Budden or Yukmouth is wack then you need to WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Can't do anything else than laugh at this.  :laugh:


Typical answer when you get put in youre place  ;)
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 29, 2006, 12:49:39 AM
Lol at people saying dont compare Snoop to Game, if anything that comparison isnt fair to Game




People are referring to the Doggystle Snoop vs the current Game.  Don't disrespect Snoop please
look at his top 5 rappers...Im not suprised at his comments.....He just doesnt realize, due mostly to the fact he was prolly only a 2 year old when Doggystyle came out

HAHAHAHAHAHAH ya'll are some hatin faggots.  Listen to Budden before you disrespect him. LOL Plant at you sucking Kurupt and Snoop's dick but making fun of Ya Boy and Yukmouth HAHAHAHAHA.  Have you ever heard Ya Boy spit before?  And laughing at Cassidy hahaha!  Dude dont get fooled by "Hotel"  Cass has skills all over the place.  And how many rappers are 5 out of 5 in making dope records like Cam??  You dont even listen to these rappers so you have NO ROOM TO TALK!  I listen to everything DPG releases so when I say its ass its cause I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO IT.  Grow up Plant there are other rappers besides Snoop and Cube, sorry homie its not 1995 anymore, and no matter how hard you try it aint gonna be 1995 ever again, DEAL WITH IT!
sorry homeboy, I didnt mean to hurt your feelings :-*

BTW, I been bumping Ya Boy all the time lately, I have a copy of Rookie of the Year, I have 3 Camron albums and Cassidys album, so dont try and act like I dont listen to music.....I guarantee you I listen to more shit than youve ever heard of, including rap and non-rap.  And Im sure I speak for the rest of DubCC when I say that Joe Buddens, Cassidy, Ya Boy, Yukmouth and Camron ARE NOT the top 5 rappers out there LMAO

how ignorant can you be? LOL! How do you know? you got a little song counter or something? Everytime you listen to song you click it once or what? Give me a break...
My dad could beat up youre dad i GUARANTEE IT! haha....
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Jome on August 29, 2006, 09:44:30 AM
Typical answer when you get put in youre place  ;)

How typical of MoSavThanLegit to quote/co-sign and asskiss a Spice1 post, or vice versa.
Stop dickriding eachother and try having an opinion of your own, maybe you should start seeing eachother outside Dubcc as well ?  :-X

Seriously, if you also think that Joe Budden, Ya Boy, Camron, Yukmouth and Cassidy is the 5 best rappers in the game, then the best of luck to you.  :wavey:
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Paul on August 29, 2006, 09:47:22 AM
Haha, I knew this was gonna be a thread about Game.The answer is pretty simple, Game name drops in every single song he has & like The Watcher asked, how many times has Snoop name dropped???

Lol at even comparing Doggystyle to Documentary. Those 2 shouldnt be named in the same sentence  :P

tell me bout it, the documentary is far betta

dont be gay
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: youngmessnucca on August 29, 2006, 02:28:17 PM
Im sorry but Jome and Detox need to lay off Game.  Im sorry but no one in the G-Unit camp can even hold Game's jockstrap.

Game > 50, mop, mobbdeep, banks, buck

The best rapper in Gunit is Buck and he is mediocre at best.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Game is a terrible rapper. Banks, Buck, MOP are better. And Snoop works with DPG and Snoop, Game name drops people hes never even worked with, let alone even met. How can you say Game is a good rapper with those aweful generic lyrics. At least MOP and Buck have energy in their lyrics.

Finally, someone sees the light. And to the mororn who started this topic, Snoop shouted out his immediate click on Doggystyle, 96% of Game's rhymes are either a classic quote from a song or name-dropping another person.
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 29, 2006, 03:10:17 PM
fuck jay-z
Title: Re: Why was it ok for Snoop to name drop Dre, DPG, and DR on doggystyle but...
Post by: Diabolical on August 29, 2006, 04:19:01 PM
fuck jay-z

lmao