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Title: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: 1980DRE on August 29, 2006, 01:55:38 PM
If there was a rap trio group called "The WACK Emcees.", which rappers would you put  in that group?

imna  put
Kevin Federline, Jkwon, Tony Yayo....
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Post by: Cowboy on August 29, 2006, 03:37:57 PM
Chingo Bling, Yung Joc, Gucci Mane
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Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 29, 2006, 04:05:25 PM
dpg, e40, ghostface, abunch of cats from the west
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Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 29, 2006, 04:10:09 PM
^^^^e-40? :nawty:


mine would be,   Rick Ross, Sean Paul, Chingy, Nelly, and Yung Joc.  Man those 5 suck, Nelly used to be good but he's trash now.
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Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on August 29, 2006, 05:41:56 PM
They're Called Dipset (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man12.gif)
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Post by: suckaa free on August 29, 2006, 07:41:54 PM
spider loc, rick ross, mike jones, jay-z, paul wall.
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Post by: $Eg2$ on August 29, 2006, 07:49:22 PM
They're Called Dipset (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man12.gif)

LOL

I gotta go wit YUng Joc, Mr Capone-e- Tony Yayo, Hot Rod, spider Loc and Hey Kanye stick to producin and ya main man Jim Jones
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Post by: westkoastanostra on August 30, 2006, 12:20:19 AM
They're Called Dipset (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man12.gif)


loon, camron, mase...a deadly boring ass duo that would put u to sleep like horse tranquilizer
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Post by: westkoastanostra on August 30, 2006, 12:21:07 AM
^^^add fabolous on there too....
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Post by: J Bananas on August 30, 2006, 12:22:31 AM
tupac, will smith, vanilla ice
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Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on August 30, 2006, 12:30:40 AM
Jim Jones, Paul Wall, Bow Wow.
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Post by: smp4life on August 31, 2006, 10:52:23 AM
B-Legit, Bizarre, Daz
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Post by: Narrator on August 31, 2006, 12:15:33 PM
Not surprisingly, everyone's listing rappers from the past few years like there wasn't a lot of wackness before then.

I remember the days when it was almost impossible to find anyone outside of the mainstream who respected Bone Thugs-N-Harmony.  It's kinda ironic to me that they've developed such a huge cult following since.
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Post by: youngmessnucca on August 31, 2006, 02:40:05 PM
They're Called Dipset (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man12.gif)


loon, camron, mase...a deadly boring ass duo that would put u to sleep like horse tranquilizer

LOL so true, and I can't believe nobody mentioned The Game. I'd also have to put Trina, Lil' Kim and ALOT of Bay rappers. Jim Jones is trash too.

And Bone Thugs always got respect. Bizzy & Krazyie were some of the top lyricsts of there genre.
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Post by: Narrator on August 31, 2006, 06:30:21 PM
And Bone Thugs always got respect. Bizzy & Krazyie were some of the top lyricsts of there genre.

You kidding me?  Ten years ago, cats used to talk about Bone the same way y'all talk about Nelly or Yung Joc or anyone in G-Unit.  They got some love in the West cause they were down with Eazy and cause most of their production was G-Funk, but just about everywhere else, they were considered the epitome of everything wrong with hip-hop, the commercial pop-thugs of the moment that everyone loved to hate.  I remember when I used to post on Steve "Flash" Juon's site (one of the first online hip-hop message boards, BTW), cats would trip off on me cause I said I liked Bone when they were all bumpin Digable Planets and De La Soul and their old PE tapes.  If you said you liked Bone back then, you usually had to justify it by saying, "Ah, they're a guilty pleasure", not that you respected them as artists who had their own unique style.  Niggas would look at you like you was fuckin crazy if you said that.

So no, Bone almost never got respect back in the day.  I never would've figured that a decade later, everybody would be talking about "E 1999 Eternal" in the same breath as "Doggystyle" or "Ready To Die" as one of the best hip-hop albums of the 90s.  It just goes to show you how everyone's always looking for rappers to scapegoat for the state of hip-hop, when the truth is that that's been going on since forever.

And BTW, I would hardly call either Bizzy or Krayzie "top lyricists".  They did show some growth on their solo albums (especially Krayzie's "Thug On Da Line" record), but Bone was always far more about style than substance.  They did what they did really well, but don't get it twisted - none of them niggas can be called "lyricists" by any stretch of imagination.
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Post by: Patrick Bateman on August 31, 2006, 06:52:48 PM
They're Called Dipset (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man12.gif)
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Post by: Juronimo on August 31, 2006, 08:21:47 PM
And Bone Thugs always got respect. Bizzy & Krazyie were some of the top lyricsts of there genre.

You kidding me?  Ten years ago, cats used to talk about Bone the same way y'all talk about Nelly or Yung Joc or anyone in G-Unit.  They got some love in the West cause they were down with Eazy and cause most of their production was G-Funk, but just about everywhere else, they were considered the epitome of everything wrong with hip-hop, the commercial pop-thugs of the moment that everyone loved to hate.  I remember when I used to post on Steve "Flash" Juon's site (one of the first online hip-hop message boards, BTW), cats would trip off on me cause I said I liked Bone when they were all bumpin Digable Planets and De La Soul and their old PE tapes.  If you said you liked Bone back then, you usually had to justify it by saying, "Ah, they're a guilty pleasure", not that you respected them as artists who had their own unique style.  Niggas would look at you like you was fuckin crazy if you said that.

So no, Bone almost never got respect back in the day.  I never would've figured that a decade later, everybody would be talking about "E 1999 Eternal" in the same breath as "Doggystyle" or "Ready To Die" as one of the best hip-hop albums of the 90s.  It just goes to show you how everyone's always looking for rappers to scapegoat for the state of hip-hop, when the truth is that that's been going on since forever.

And BTW, I would hardly call either Bizzy or Krayzie "top lyricists".  They did show some growth on their solo albums (especially Krayzie's "Thug On Da Line" record), but Bone was always far more about style than substance.  They did what they did really well, but don't get it twisted - none of them niggas can be called "lyricists" by any stretch of imagination.

You are right about bone not getting much respect outside of Cali and among their cult following but come on, Bizzie and Layzie did have lyrics.

My wack trio:

Hurricane G
2006 Kurupt
Gerardo (anyone remember that guy? That rico suave fool, he was terrible)
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Post by: youngmessnucca on August 31, 2006, 09:42:57 PM
And Bone Thugs always got respect. Bizzy & Krazyie were some of the top lyricsts of there genre.

You kidding me?  Ten years ago, cats used to talk about Bone the same way y'all talk about Nelly or Yung Joc or anyone in G-Unit.  They got some love in the West cause they were down with Eazy and cause most of their production was G-Funk, but just about everywhere else, they were considered the epitome of everything wrong with hip-hop, the commercial pop-thugs of the moment that everyone loved to hate.  I remember when I used to post on Steve "Flash" Juon's site (one of the first online hip-hop message boards, BTW), cats would trip off on me cause I said I liked Bone when they were all bumpin Digable Planets and De La Soul and their old PE tapes.  If you said you liked Bone back then, you usually had to justify it by saying, "Ah, they're a guilty pleasure", not that you respected them as artists who had their own unique style.  Niggas would look at you like you was fuckin crazy if you said that.

So no, Bone almost never got respect back in the day.  I never would've figured that a decade later, everybody would be talking about "E 1999 Eternal" in the same breath as "Doggystyle" or "Ready To Die" as one of the best hip-hop albums of the 90s.  It just goes to show you how everyone's always looking for rappers to scapegoat for the state of hip-hop, when the truth is that that's been going on since forever.

And BTW, I would hardly call either Bizzy or Krayzie "top lyricists".  They did show some growth on their solo albums (especially Krayzie's "Thug On Da Line" record), but Bone was always far more about style than substance.  They did what they did really well, but don't get it twisted - none of them niggas can be called "lyricists" by any stretch of imagination.

You must be catching what they are saying. Shit, even in one of the most biased magazines ( The Source ), had there 100th issue with 100 greatest albums of all time. This was in like 97' or 98' and both Creepin on a Come up & East 1999 are up there. Of course people who listen to Digable Planets & De La werent gonna feel Bone. The fuck are you thinkin? Thats like tryning to put someone who listens to The Game, Riock Ross, etc on to Murs or Keak da Sneak or something like that. Bone was plenty respected, you just had your head up your ass.
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Post by: J Bananas on August 31, 2006, 09:52:08 PM
And Bone Thugs always got respect. Bizzy & Krazyie were some of the top lyricsts of there genre.

You kidding me?  Ten years ago, cats used to talk about Bone the same way y'all talk about Nelly or Yung Joc or anyone in G-Unit.  They got some love in the West cause they were down with Eazy and cause most of their production was G-Funk, but just about everywhere else, they were considered the epitome of everything wrong with hip-hop, the commercial pop-thugs of the moment that everyone loved to hate.  I remember when I used to post on Steve "Flash" Juon's site (one of the first online hip-hop message boards, BTW), cats would trip off on me cause I said I liked Bone when they were all bumpin Digable Planets and De La Soul and their old PE tapes.  If you said you liked Bone back then, you usually had to justify it by saying, "Ah, they're a guilty pleasure", not that you respected them as artists who had their own unique style.  Niggas would look at you like you was fuckin crazy if you said that.

So no, Bone almost never got respect back in the day.  I never would've figured that a decade later, everybody would be talking about "E 1999 Eternal" in the same breath as "Doggystyle" or "Ready To Die" as one of the best hip-hop albums of the 90s.  It just goes to show you how everyone's always looking for rappers to scapegoat for the state of hip-hop, when the truth is that that's been going on since forever.

And BTW, I would hardly call either Bizzy or Krayzie "top lyricists".  They did show some growth on their solo albums (especially Krayzie's "Thug On Da Line" record), but Bone was always far more about style than substance.  They did what they did really well, but don't get it twisted - none of them niggas can be called "lyricists" by any stretch of imagination.

wow doggie u mad? that sure was a lot of effort just to tell us your two cent OPINION
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Post by: smp4life on August 31, 2006, 10:10:10 PM
Creepin' on a Come up was dope, then they went too commercial, IMO.
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Post by: J Bananas on August 31, 2006, 10:13:10 PM
Creepin' on a Come up was dope, then they went too commercial, IMO.

whatd you think about eternal? to me it had pretty much the same raw vibe of creepin just longer.
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Post by: youngmessnucca on August 31, 2006, 10:13:34 PM
Creepin' on a Come up was dope, then they went too commercial, IMO.

I dont get how East 1999 is a commercial album at all? The main, and pretty much only topics of that album were: smoking weed, killing people, selling drugs, killing cops & money over hardcore beats. What is commercial about that. Also remeber, the more well-know version of the Crossroads came out on a re-print of the album I guess about a year after it's inital release.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Narrator on September 01, 2006, 04:19:05 PM
You must be catching what they are saying. Shit, even in one of the most biased magazines ( The Source ), had there 100th issue with 100 greatest albums of all time. This was in like 97' or 98' and both Creepin on a Come up & East 1999 are up there. Of course people who listen to Digable Planets & De La werent gonna feel Bone. The fuck are you thinkin? Thats like tryning to put someone who listens to The Game, Riock Ross, etc on to Murs or Keak da Sneak or something like that. Bone was plenty respected, you just had your head up your ass.

I had my head up my ass?  Son, how old were you in '95?  Was your little ass even listening to ANY hip-hop back then?  Juronimo is the same age I am, and he backs me up on this.  Respect your elders' wisdom.

You cite The Source as proof?  The Source were often being accused of catering too much to the mainstream even back in '98, so it doesn't surprise me if "E 1999 Eternal" was praised by them.  But heads were most definitely different - I remember plenty of fan polls on Flash's site where Bone were voted worst group.  And it wasn't just the "underground" heads hating on them - often, it was also cats who bumped stuff like Bigge, Mobb Deep, Nas, and the Wu.  In fact, I remember when "Life After Death" came out and people heard "Notorious Thugz", they were screaming bloody murda mo at Biggie for working with Bone.

I dont get how East 1999 is a commercial album at all? The main, and pretty much only topics of that album were: smoking weed, killing people, selling drugs, killing cops & money over hardcore beats. What is commercial about that. Also remeber, the more well-know version of the Crossroads came out on a re-print of the album I guess about a year after it's inital release.

Commercial hip-hop in mid-90s = G-Funk beats, lyrics that were overly violent and not socially conscious, weed-smoking, all that shit.  If you were that kind of rapper in 1995, everyone outside of the West would have treated you the same way Southern rappers are treated today.

Oh, yeah, and Bone's style were considered gimmicky.  Plus, you know how everyone complains about mixing hip-hop with R&B?  Well, that applied back then, too.
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 01, 2006, 04:28:07 PM
D4L, Yung Joc and Mike Jones
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Post by: "THE" MoSav on September 01, 2006, 06:25:53 PM
B-Legit, Bizarre, Daz

LOL THATS A GREAT ONE! Cuz they all think they are tight as fuck and bosses and shit
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Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 01, 2006, 06:26:35 PM
D4L
you must not have heard "scotty"
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Post by: Ðøšïå on September 01, 2006, 06:36:35 PM
pretty much 90% of the rappers you hear on todays radio...
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Post by: youngmessnucca on September 02, 2006, 01:11:40 PM
You must be catching what they are saying. Shit, even in one of the most biased magazines ( The Source ), had there 100th issue with 100 greatest albums of all time. This was in like 97' or 98' and both Creepin on a Come up & East 1999 are up there. Of course people who listen to Digable Planets & De La werent gonna feel Bone. The fuck are you thinkin? Thats like tryning to put someone who listens to The Game, Riock Ross, etc on to Murs or Keak da Sneak or something like that. Bone was plenty respected, you just had your head up your ass.

I had my head up my ass?  Son, how old were you in '95?  Was your little ass even listening to ANY hip-hop back then?  Juronimo is the same age I am, and he backs me up on this.  Respect your elders' wisdom.

You cite The Source as proof?  The Source were often being accused of catering too much to the mainstream even back in '98, so it doesn't surprise me if "E 1999 Eternal" was praised by them.  But heads were most definitely different - I remember plenty of fan polls on Flash's site where Bone were voted worst group.  And it wasn't just the "underground" heads hating on them - often, it was also cats who bumped stuff like Bigge, Mobb Deep, Nas, and the Wu.  In fact, I remember when "Life After Death" came out and people heard "Notorious Thugz", they were screaming bloody murda mo at Biggie for working with Bone.

I dont get how East 1999 is a commercial album at all? The main, and pretty much only topics of that album were: smoking weed, killing people, selling drugs, killing cops & money over hardcore beats. What is commercial about that. Also remeber, the more well-know version of the Crossroads came out on a re-print of the album I guess about a year after it's inital release.

Commercial hip-hop in mid-90s = G-Funk beats, lyrics that were overly violent and not socially conscious, weed-smoking, all that shit.  If you were that kind of rapper in 1995, everyone outside of the West would have treated you the same way Southern rappers are treated today.

Oh, yeah, and Bone's style were considered gimmicky.  Plus, you know how everyone complains about mixing hip-hop with R&B?  Well, that applied back then, too.

While I was young in '95 ( only 11 ), I had listened to an heard plenty of hip-hop, more than you most likely, and only people listening to shit like ATCQ, Pete Rock and shit like that were complaing. People who like good music were listening to Bone Thugs. Seems like I was smarter than you when I was 11, then you are now.
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Post by: CanadActive on September 02, 2006, 05:22:15 PM
Quote
pretty much 90% of the rappers you hear on todays radio...
Yup...

But if I had to chose, that would be...

Jim Jones, Drag-On and Spider Loc

They are signed to The Dipset label and Lil Jon executive produce the album

Now that's WACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Narrator on September 02, 2006, 06:15:35 PM
While I was young in '95 ( only 11 ), I had listened to an heard plenty of hip-hop, more than you most likely, and only people listening to shit like ATCQ, Pete Rock and shit like that were complaing. People who like good music were listening to Bone Thugs. Seems like I was smarter than you when I was 11, then you are now.

No, I'm afraid you weren't...then or now.

Bone were not respected in '95, and if you really believe otherwise, you're the one who REALLY had his head up his ass.
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 02, 2006, 06:30:40 PM
D4L
you must not have heard "scotty"

nope i haven't.
i guess i'll take a listen to it though, im praying i dont go running into the wall headfirst out of annoyance though.
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Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 02, 2006, 07:08:28 PM
D4L
you must not have heard "scotty"

nope i haven't.
i guess i'll take a listen to it though, im praying i dont go running into the wall headfirst out of annoyance though.
http://www.bolt.com/audio/audio_player_mp3_branded.swf?contentId=2121517&contentType=3&autoplay=0
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Post by: BL7 on September 03, 2006, 12:19:41 AM
^^^^ Not much better than "Laffy Taffy", and that's the worst rap song I've ever heard in my life.
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Post by: T-Dogg on September 03, 2006, 04:10:42 AM
I'd put in there...

Bonecrusher (Remeber him? Never scared!)
Caz
Tony Yayo (I remember G-Unit hyping him up like crazy when his ass was in jail. Then dude was set free and the truth was told.)
Shit, the whole D4L
Kevin Federline - He's THE prime example of somebody getting into the rap game just for the money. And today it seems any fool can put out a wack ass record with wack ass lyrics and make money with it, then play themselves like they're the genuine article.
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 03, 2006, 06:42:50 AM
D4L
you must not have heard "scotty"

nope i haven't.
i guess i'll take a listen to it though, im praying i dont go running into the wall headfirst out of annoyance though.
http://www.bolt.com/audio/audio_player_mp3_branded.swf?contentId=2121517&contentType=3&autoplay=0

ill admit i liked the beat...everything else was terrible though.
so i'll stick to keeping them on the list
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Post by: Juronimo on September 03, 2006, 08:46:27 AM
While I was young in '95 ( only 11 ), I had listened to an heard plenty of hip-hop, more than you most likely, and only people listening to shit like ATCQ, Pete Rock and shit like that were complaing. People who like good music were listening to Bone Thugs. Seems like I was smarter than you when I was 11, then you are now.

No, I'm afraid you weren't...then or now.

Bone were not respected in '95, and if you really believe otherwise, you're the one who REALLY had his head up his ass.

This guy speaks the truth. In '95, I loved G Funk, $hort, E40 and that kind of music, as well as Tribe, De La, and that shit.

I've been in Cali my whole life and back then I was heavily involved in the underground rap scene, going to open mics, battling fools and shit like that. The truth is that many hip hop heads were narrow minded and if the music didn't sound like some DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Diamond D type shit, it wasn't "real hip hop" and it got dissed. Why do you think people use terms like "real hip hop" in the first place? Why do you think Masta Ace recorded "Slaughterhouse"? Why do you think Common Sense recorded "I used to love her"? They were mad that hip hop spread out of New York and brothas from LA, Oakland and the South were putting their own twist on it and to them it wasn't "real" and it got dissed.

Outkast wasn't respected at first. E40 wasn't respected at first. G-Funk wasn't respected at first and while it was great music, many people in the hip hp community dissed it since they were narrow minded. The same thing with Bone Thugs. This is what happened, I was there, and I served a lot fools on the mic that used to talk shit about west coast music. Why do you think Ice Cube got all pissed off and recorded Westside Slaughterhouse? In fact in those days, only Heiro and the Pharcyde got respect out of the west coast. I was there and I remember all of it.
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Post by: youngmessnucca on September 03, 2006, 11:03:45 AM
While I was young in '95 ( only 11 ), I had listened to an heard plenty of hip-hop, more than you most likely, and only people listening to shit like ATCQ, Pete Rock and shit like that were complaing. People who like good music were listening to Bone Thugs. Seems like I was smarter than you when I was 11, then you are now.

No, I'm afraid you weren't...then or now.

Bone were not respected in '95, and if you really believe otherwise, you're the one who REALLY had his head up his ass.

This guy speaks the truth. In '95, I loved G Funk, $hort, E40 and that kind of music, as well as Tribe, De La, and that shit.

I've been in Cali my whole life and back then I was heavily involved in the underground rap scene, going to open mics, battling fools and shit like that. The truth is that many hip hop heads were narrow minded and if the music didn't sound like some DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Diamond D type shit, it wasn't "real hip hop" and it got dissed. Why do you think people use terms like "real hip hop" in the first place? Why do you think Masta Ace recorded "Slaughterhouse"? Why do you think Common Sense recorded "I used to love her"? They were mad that hip hop spread out of New York and brothas from LA, Oakland and the South were putting their own twist on it and to them it wasn't "real" and it got dissed.

Outkast wasn't respected at first. E40 wasn't respected at first. G-Funk wasn't respected at first and while it was great music, many people in the hip hp community dissed it since they were narrow minded. The same thing with Bone Thugs. This is what happened, I was there, and I served a lot fools on the mic that used to talk shit about west coast music. Why do you think Ice Cube got all pissed off and recorded Westside Slaughterhouse? In fact in those days, only Heiro and the Pharcyde got respect out of the west coast. I was there and I remember all of it.

So, youre speaking on what people from the East thought, not the country as a whole right? Youre telling me Cali was stiuck on that Primo, Pete Rock sound? I'm telling you, we were loving that Bone shit back then. Outkast too. I'll admit 40 Water was wierd to me at first, but as I got older, I understood the game he spit. I also remeber the Common/WSC beef, and the reasoning behind it, but that was just the Eastcoast getting mad. I've always had a wider taste in rap than most of the people on my coast, but facts are in 95, people were LOVING bone & outkast out here.
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Post by: Juronimo on September 03, 2006, 12:22:08 PM
While I was young in '95 ( only 11 ), I had listened to an heard plenty of hip-hop, more than you most likely, and only people listening to shit like ATCQ, Pete Rock and shit like that were complaing. People who like good music were listening to Bone Thugs. Seems like I was smarter than you when I was 11, then you are now.

No, I'm afraid you weren't...then or now.

Bone were not respected in '95, and if you really believe otherwise, you're the one who REALLY had his head up his ass.

This guy speaks the truth. In '95, I loved G Funk, $hort, E40 and that kind of music, as well as Tribe, De La, and that shit.

I've been in Cali my whole life and back then I was heavily involved in the underground rap scene, going to open mics, battling fools and shit like that. The truth is that many hip hop heads were narrow minded and if the music didn't sound like some DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Diamond D type shit, it wasn't "real hip hop" and it got dissed. Why do you think people use terms like "real hip hop" in the first place? Why do you think Masta Ace recorded "Slaughterhouse"? Why do you think Common Sense recorded "I used to love her"? They were mad that hip hop spread out of New York and brothas from LA, Oakland and the South were putting their own twist on it and to them it wasn't "real" and it got dissed.

Outkast wasn't respected at first. E40 wasn't respected at first. G-Funk wasn't respected at first and while it was great music, many people in the hip hp community dissed it since they were narrow minded. The same thing with Bone Thugs. This is what happened, I was there, and I served a lot fools on the mic that used to talk shit about west coast music. Why do you think Ice Cube got all pissed off and recorded Westside Slaughterhouse? In fact in those days, only Heiro and the Pharcyde got respect out of the west coast. I was there and I remember all of it.

So, youre speaking on what people from the East thought, not the country as a whole right? Youre telling me Cali was stiuck on that Primo, Pete Rock sound? I'm telling you, we were loving that Bone shit back then. Outkast too. I'll admit 40 Water was wierd to me at first, but as I got older, I understood the game he spit. I also remeber the Common/WSC beef, and the reasoning behind it, but that was just the Eastcoast getting mad. I've always had a wider taste in rap than most of the people on my coast, but facts are in 95, people were LOVING bone & outkast out here.

You see, the streets was lovin' the death row g-funk Ice Cube Snoop Dogg E40 Too $hort Bone Thugs type shit out here in Cali. I'm more or less referring to the self-proclaimed "real hip hop heads" and New York critics, the media, backpackers, underground heads, those kind of people. I also knew kids from New York and they were shitting on that type of music, it wasn't real or whatever. Bone Thugs and much of west coast rap was considered pop music and therefore it wasn't "real" in their eyes. I can speak on what the west coast was feelin', the local underground scene here, and the heads from New York that I ran into while I was in the scene.

Also, there's a huge difference between what the streets was feelin' and what the underground was feeling. The streets love Bone and G-Funk, especially out here in Cali. The underground, heads didn't, it had to sound like New York for it to be official in their eyes. The backpackers took over the underground out here around 93 or so and everything got twisted after that. That's a whole other topic right there.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Narrator on September 03, 2006, 12:40:58 PM
^^^^^ Thank you, Juronimo, I'm always glad to see another brother who was actually old enough to remember the way things were back in those days.  Phillyboy is here calling me stupid, but you and I obviously know better.  And I already said Bone had love in Cali (if you were down with Eazy back then, of course West Coast cats would give you a chance).

I've been a fan of Bone since '94.  But most of the "real hip-hop" heads back in those days didn't, and they were always giving me shit for liking them.  So I think I'm justified in saying that it's really odd Bone is so respected these days cause they weren't back then.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Paul on September 03, 2006, 04:44:36 PM
this is quite a good discussion

i would put eternal in the same league as doggystyle but
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Juronimo on September 04, 2006, 10:51:05 AM
^^^^^ Thank you, Juronimo, I'm always glad to see another brother who was actually old enough to remember the way things were back in those days.  Phillyboy is here calling me stupid, but you and I obviously know better.  And I already said Bone had love in Cali (if you were down with Eazy back then, of course West Coast cats would give you a chance).

I've been a fan of Bone since '94.  But most of the "real hip-hop" heads back in those days didn't, and they were always giving me shit for liking them.  So I think I'm justified in saying that it's really odd Bone is so respected these days cause they weren't back then.

No prob bro

I remember some kid saying I was "wack" because I thought Ice Cube was the best rapper, so I served him.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Raphael on September 04, 2006, 11:00:23 AM
Tony Yayo
Lloyd Banks
Paul Wall
Vanilla Ice


Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:11:55 AM
Tony Yayo
Lloyd Banks
Paul Wall
Vanilla Ice




LMAO @ Banks being a wack emcee.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Raphael on September 05, 2006, 06:23:51 AM
Tony Yayo
Lloyd Banks
Paul Wall
Vanilla Ice




LMAO @ Banks being a wack emcee.
LMAO @ You actually liking Banks.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Meho on September 05, 2006, 06:52:19 AM
Tony Yayo
Lloyd Banks
Paul Wall
Vanilla Ice




LMAO @ Banks being a wack emcee.

Exactly. This is getting crazy lately.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Mr. O on September 05, 2006, 01:45:32 PM
laffy taffy main guy, vanilla ice, and k-fed.    :laugh: :laugh: platinum wack rappers..
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 05, 2006, 02:19:29 PM
Tony Yayo
Lloyd Banks
Paul Wall
Vanilla Ice




LMAO @ Banks being a wack emcee.

Exactly. This is getting crazy lately.

You know what it is,if this guy actually sat down and listenend to a couple verses by Banks, he'd be astounded by what he's been missing. I'm not a big G-Unit fan, but Im embarrassed for these assholes that automatically go "G-Unot", & "Gay Unit" without listening to shit, they come off looking immature as hell.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:22:43 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Oklin on September 05, 2006, 02:24:17 PM
Quote
pretty much 90% of the rappers you hear on todays radio...
Yup...

But if I had to chose, that would be...

Jim Jones, Drag-On and Spider Loc

They are signed to The Dipset label and Lil Jon executive produce the album

Now that's WACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 05, 2006, 02:25:57 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:27:31 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Oklin on September 05, 2006, 02:29:02 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:29:49 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions

And look it's Mr. Homo to the rescue, lol
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Oklin on September 05, 2006, 02:31:42 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions

And look it's Mr. Homo to the rescue, lol
And look it's Mr. I don't know what to answer so i will use the classic "Mr. Homo" joke
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:33:37 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions

And look it's Mr. Homo to the rescue, lol
And look it's Mr. I don't know what to answer so i will use the classic "Mr. Homo" joke

And look its Mr. Oblivious that doesn’t realize his opinions aren’t shit, so that’s why he gets no response
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Oklin on September 05, 2006, 02:36:00 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions

And look it's Mr. Homo to the rescue, lol
And look it's Mr. I don't know what to answer so i will use the classic "Mr. Homo" joke

And look its Mr. Oblivious that doesn’t realize his opinions aren’t shit, so that’s why he gets no response
My opinions is as much worth as yours... oh i remember when i was like you.. listening to the sweet sounds of G-Unit.. i'm glad i'm past that.. i found out what music and creativety really is
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:41:31 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions

And look it's Mr. Homo to the rescue, lol
And look it's Mr. I don't know what to answer so i will use the classic "Mr. Homo" joke

And look its Mr. Oblivious that doesn’t realize his opinions aren’t shit, so that’s why he gets no response
My opinions is as much worth as yours... oh i remember when i was like you.. listening to the sweet sounds of G-Unit.. i'm glad i'm past that.. i found out what music and creativety really is

lol, yes you are right your opinions are worth just as much as mine.  It's just Im not gonna bother responding when you waste your time trying to dog me or something, Im just here to talk about sports and music, at times I think you guys are here just to ride my posts.  There was no problem w/ you whatsoever, but then I noticed a certain someone dogging EVERYTHING I Had to say so I became a lil curios.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Oklin on September 05, 2006, 02:44:28 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again
and you have your pussy over his opinions

And look it's Mr. Homo to the rescue, lol
And look it's Mr. I don't know what to answer so i will use the classic "Mr. Homo" joke

And look its Mr. Oblivious that doesn’t realize his opinions aren’t shit, so that’s why he gets no response
My opinions is as much worth as yours... oh i remember when i was like you.. listening to the sweet sounds of G-Unit.. i'm glad i'm past that.. i found out what music and creativety really is

lol, yes you are right your opinions are worth just as much as mine.  It's just Im not gonna bother responding when you waste your time trying to dog me or something, Im just here to talk about sports and music, at times I think you guys are here just to ride my posts.  There was no problem w/ you whatsoever, but then I noticed a certain someone dogging EVERYTHING I Had to say so I became a lil curios.
but you just responded me?
If you make a post about Cam'Ron is the best and then someone replies with "no **** is much better" you could just leave it at that.. bevause its all opinions, you dont have to reply back with "lol g-unit dickryder Dipset 4 life"
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:47:35 PM
The only people who's opinions I shrugged off were the guys that came in the thread talking shit from the jump.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: Oklin on September 05, 2006, 02:49:06 PM
The only people who's opinions I shrugged off were the guys that came in the thread talking shit from the jump.
i see... i'm gonna go to bed now... hopefully i have some PM's with some dipset in it tomorrow.. then i will see if they really are THAT great
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 05, 2006, 02:51:24 PM
The only people who's opinions I shrugged off were the guys that came in the thread talking shit from the jump.
i see... i'm gonna go to bed now... hopefully i have some PM's with some dipset in it tomorrow.. then i will see if they really are THAT great

you will dont worry.  I didnt even know you lived in Denmark, when you said I was going to sleep I was thinking wtf.
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 05, 2006, 04:37:01 PM
Banks = W.A.C.K.

when he uses metaphors they never make sense, he's nothing without the production he gets, his lyrics are generic, plain, and boring.  I have listened to 50's ballboy rap plenty of times and he isnt good.

^^^^ Naw, your just close minded, Banks is shitting on alot of these rap cats. I understand ur immature, but take Cams dick outta ya ass and give Banks a real listen.

 :sleep: :sleep:  What a surprise Captain SlobNuts has his pussy all over my opinions again

You still callin people names? You said you were 22 years old. What happened to you?
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: teecee on September 05, 2006, 04:51:09 PM
^^^^e-40? :nawty:


mine would be,   Rick Ross, Sean Paul, Chingy, Nelly, and Yung Joc.  Man those 5 suck, Nelly used to be good but he's trash now.

Nelly has never been a dope MC!!!  Maybe a dope rapper, but not MC....

Anyway, I'd go with Cats like Jim Jones, Yayo, Kurupt(used to be my favourite), etc
Title: Re: The WACK emcees!!!
Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 05, 2006, 05:27:53 PM
e40 again. and banks is a wack mc. he has no personality, weak punchlines and metaphores. dude sucks