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Title: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:10:45 AM
While I think rap beefs are played out, dissing someone subliminaly is a good way to do it, and the only way it should be done.

The possibilty that Hittman was dissing CJ Mac on 2001 was interseting too me and it got me wondering if anybody else ever dropped subliminals ( like Jay & Nas did for years before Takeover/Ether ).

Anyone ever catch one?
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on September 04, 2006, 11:15:13 AM
What song.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:18:44 AM
Shit it could be from anysong.

Im just wondering if anybody else picked up subliminals from any song that others wouldnt have noticed.

Example: Tech N9ne "Planet Rock" sounds like he's going at 3-6 Mafia.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on September 04, 2006, 11:33:08 AM
Nelly - #1 (at least Kris thought it was aimed at him)
Gail Gotti - Gangstress (singing the chorus from It's Over and a few other remarks obviously aimed at Natina)
Petey Pablo - Suge Got Shot (going at Game???)

I'm sure there's plenty of others, these just came to mind...
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:37:29 AM
Nelly - #1 (at least Kris thought it was aimed at him)
Gail Gotti - Gangstress (singing the chorus from It's Over and a few other remarks obviously aimed at Natina)
Petey Pablo - Suge Got Shot (going at Game???)
I'm sure there's plenty of others, these just came to mind...


Im glad I wasnt the only one who thought this too.

I always thought Too Short was dissing the Luniz in 95-97 era.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on September 04, 2006, 11:43:18 AM
Nelly - #1 (at least Kris thought it was aimed at him)
Gail Gotti - Gangstress (singing the chorus from It's Over and a few other remarks obviously aimed at Natina)
Petey Pablo - Suge Got Shot (going at Game???)
I'm sure there's plenty of others, these just came to mind...


Im glad I wasnt the only one who thought this too.

I always thought Too Short was dissing the Luniz in 95-97 era.

Yeah that "boy you look good on the cover of that XXL" really did it (Game had just appeared on the XXL cover around that time)...

And what about Master P vs Luniz? I think The Luniz made a few comments about a certain ice cream man around that same time...
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:45:39 AM
^^^ Definitley. On "Sad Millionare" off Lunatik Music they sounded like they were getting at em.

Later on, Yuk of course started dissing P directly.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on September 04, 2006, 11:49:58 AM
^^^ Definitley. On "Sad Millionare" off Lunatik Music they sounded like they were getting at em.

Later on, Yuk of course started dissing P directly.

And all because of that Pen and Pixel designed cover in which an ice cream truck is being blown up...
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:52:59 AM
^^^ Definitley. On "Sad Millionare" off Lunatik Music they sounded like they were getting at em.

Later on, Yuk of course started dissing P directly.

And all because of that Pen and Pixel designed cover in which an ice cream truck is being blown up...

Was that it? I always thought it was becuase P blew up with that "Ice Cream Man" song 4 years after the Luniz/DD collabo of the same name.

"Shame on a nigga/for tryna steal a name from a nigga/Ice Cream Man put fame to a nigga/I figure by now that nigga should been done broke off skrilla for stealing that shit/but until then I'm killin' that bitch" Yuk "Killaz on the Payroll" off Thug Lord
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 04, 2006, 11:56:02 AM
notorious big dissing nas on victory, nas daughter is called destiny (very clever use by b.i.g)

"The son of (*Satan*), they say my killing's too blatant
You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin
Duct tapin, your fam' destiny
lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist"
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 11:58:25 AM
^^^ Damn, that's some cold shit. Biggie also sounds like he's dissing Nas and someone else ( possibly Wu-Tang? ) on "kick in the door".
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on September 04, 2006, 12:02:47 PM
^^^ Definitley. On "Sad Millionare" off Lunatik Music they sounded like they were getting at em.

Later on, Yuk of course started dissing P directly.

And all because of that Pen and Pixel designed cover in which an ice cream truck is being blown up...

Was that it? I always thought it was becuase P blew up with that "Ice Cream Man" song 4 years after the Luniz/DD collabo of the same name.

"Shame on a nigga/for tryna steal a name from a nigga/Ice Cream Man put fame to a nigga/I figure by now that nigga should been done broke off skrilla for stealing that shit/but until then I'm killin' that bitch" Yuk "Killaz on the Payroll" off Thug Lord

Hmm that also could be it... I remember reading an article about Pen and Pixel a long time ago and it also talked about the origin of the P - Luniz beef, that ice cream truck cover was brought up as being the reason for it... but the article could be wrong ofcourse...
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 12:11:31 PM
^^ Ya I'm pretty sure it's because Yuk felt that P stole from him and used it to blow up.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 04, 2006, 12:46:02 PM
here is some more, seen them in another thread.  ;D

"i need a encore y'all u should welcome me back
u wanna ball til u fall i can help u wit that
u want beef i can lit a slug melt in ya hat"

Nas to Memphis Bleek this 1 line help spark the jay vs nas thing

"Your life style written/ So who you spose to be play your postion" memph bleek to nas

"oh you didn't wanna kno who's life was written/tha life i'm livin tha ice of women/" -Nas back at memphis bleek

"alwayz gotta be the weakest out the crew
look at ur own videos, u will always be #2
I probably made more money off ur album than you" jay z to mase

"You got a House In Virginia
The only way you sicker than us
Gettin' bagged with .22's now you's a ridiculous fuck
No need for the gun play, it's ok, 'cause you dyin' anyway"

House In Virginia = HIV nas to cam

And to tell the truth Chamillionaire is betta than you//
That's the only thang that hater said that's ever been true// - chamillionaire going at paul wall

"....look closer and you'll see a coward who uses his smile as power...." (to Paul Wall)

"....I'll wreck any gimmick rapper out from a to z....934....829 to the 2 if you still disagree...." (to Mike Jones)

- Chamillionaire

"Put it out let the streetz talk no promo
A real man shouldn't have to say No homo" jadakiss getting at cam

" I aint dissin you dog, I'm dismissin you
Get the R. Kelly tape and see how we piss on you
Thats Kool-Aid, Moutain Dew, and Cris on you
Ya family will be missin you, theres a kiss for you" - Camron at Jada.

"How dare you use the gods name in vain,I use a 50 cent piece to test my aim"

Gza going at 50 for saying Ghostface and Rza name on "how to Rob"

look but don't touch muthafucka think twice
cuz the gat that i clutch got a little red light
need a light?

jay-z @ sean paul



Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: $Eg2$ on September 04, 2006, 01:07:02 PM
Listen to most of the East Coast early diss records most of them are subliminal like I shot ya by LL Cool J
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: BG Dresta on September 04, 2006, 02:54:11 PM
^^ Ya I'm pretty sure it's because Yuk felt that P stole from him and used it to blow up.

Luniz dissed him on "So Much Drama" off Operation Stackola. Knumskull says "Now this is somethin that I dont understand, why the fuck would that nigga Master P call himself the ice cream man?, BITCH dont you hear the music? Thats janky as fuck, he musta been off the fluid"
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 03:29:37 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on September 04, 2006, 04:03:38 PM
Jay-z dissed sean Paul???
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 04:04:56 PM
^^^ Yeah, I had heard he though Paul was getting a little too close to B on the set of "Baby Boy". That's why you never see the 2 of them perform that song together.

Jay seems to be one of the top dogs with the subliminals.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: BG Dresta on September 04, 2006, 04:06:54 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?

Master P was refering to himself as the Ice Cream Man on the West Coast Bad Boyz Vol 1 project from 94. Thats where the Luniz prolly got it from.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 04, 2006, 04:18:22 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?

Master P was refering to himself as the Ice Cream Man on the West Coast Bad Boyz Vol 1 project from 94. Thats where the Luniz prolly got it from.
Damn. This was going on longer than I had thought.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 04, 2006, 04:20:24 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?

Master P was refering to himself as the Ice Cream Man on the West Coast Bad Boyz Vol 1 project from 94. Thats where the Luniz prolly got it from.
completely wrong  BG Dresta, Luniz came up with it and Master P clearly stole it, I believe P even admitted this
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: acgrundy on September 04, 2006, 04:33:47 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?

Master P was refering to himself as the Ice Cream Man on the West Coast Bad Boyz Vol 1 project from 94. Thats where the Luniz prolly got it from.
completely wrong  BG Dresta, Luniz came up with it and Master P clearly stole it, I believe P even admitted this

naw I think he is saying thats where the luniz figured P bit them
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: westkoastanostra on September 04, 2006, 04:35:49 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?

Master P was refering to himself as the Ice Cream Man on the West Coast Bad Boyz Vol 1 project from 94. Thats where the Luniz prolly got it from.
completely wrong  BG Dresta, Luniz came up with it and Master P clearly stole it, I believe P even admitted this

master p's title track "ice cream" he says... "i'm the REAL ice cream man"...so shit...luniz were pissed at that and of course master p saying "ice cream man " in 94'...
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: acgrundy on September 04, 2006, 04:37:20 PM
luniz first claimed the ice cream man shit on Dru Downs album, before Master P did
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: westkoastanostra on September 04, 2006, 04:38:51 PM
ll cool j - is shot ya(remix)...cool j was going at 2pac....prodigy was going at keith murray (which resulted in murray kicking prodigy's ass)

didnt ice cube subliminally diss mack 10 and 50 cent on his new record?

Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: westkoastanostra on September 04, 2006, 04:39:28 PM
luniz first claimed the ice cream man shit on Dru Downs album, before Master P did

yup and that song was actually recorded back in 1992
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: BG Dresta on September 04, 2006, 04:40:31 PM
^^ Good shit, I thought the 1st time was on Lunatik Muzik. Didn't Master P's Ice Cream Man come out way after OS?

Master P was refering to himself as the Ice Cream Man on the West Coast Bad Boyz Vol 1 project from 94. Thats where the Luniz prolly got it from.
completely wrong  BG Dresta, Luniz came up with it and Master P clearly stole it, I believe P even admitted this

Oh nah, I didnt mean it like that. I meant P was sayin that on WCBB and Luniz heard him sayin that on it.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on September 04, 2006, 04:48:01 PM
ll cool j - is shot ya(remix)...cool j was going at 2pac....prodigy was going at keith murray (which resulted in murray kicking prodigy's ass)

didnt ice cube subliminally diss mack 10 and 50 cent on his new record?



50??
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 05, 2006, 02:12:48 PM
ll cool j - is shot ya(remix)...cool j was going at 2pac....prodigy was going at keith murray (which resulted in murray kicking prodigy's ass)

didnt ice cube subliminally diss mack 10 and 50 cent on his new record?



50??

He was definitley getting at Mack 10 on Click Clack get back. I dunno about 50, I get the feeling that 50% of rappers have been dissing Fif subliminaly for 2 years now.
Title: Re: Subliminal
Post by: CaliKorleone on September 05, 2006, 09:16:14 PM
Biggie dissing 2Pac on Jay-Z's Brooklyn's Finest.  There is the obvoius Faith/2Pac joke but there is also this.

"Pass the safe
Before I blaze the place
And hit 6 SHOTS just in case."

2Pac got robbed and shot in NY.  He was shot 5 times.