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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: WILL-I-DIE on November 10, 2006, 11:15:23 PM
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Drop your vote then explain your choice
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Snoop spits hungry again... but after a listen, Game album got less fillers than Snoop one
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snoop just leaked need a few straight listens first
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I got love for both albums but i went with Snoop (Tha Blue Carpet Treatment)
I didnt like Snoops last two albums but this one is DOPE.I expected less from Snoop but he
came wit it this time.Nice to hear SNOOP D-O-double G once again.
Trust me i really thought this one out.
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Lol, Snoop been out for 5 hours.
Make this after 1 month.
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Lol, Snoop been out for 5 hours.
Make this after 1 month.
All it takes is one listen or two
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To make a good, full judgment, I'd say it takes at least a month of hearing both if they come out at the same time.
So far...I'm halfway thru Snoop, and it sounds like it might be just as good as Game's...but it's a COMPLETELY different album, which is dope and shows that the strongest West Coast artists can all come with dope albums that sound similar in some ways, but different overall. Snoop's album has a lot more personality than Game's (and Jay's), he sounds hungry again, has more upbeat and fun songs. But I haven't even heard the whole thing yet. Game's album is much more serious, has a darker sound to it.
Fuck it.....let's just say it's a tie for now, so y'all can buy both!! It's bad that Game and Jay are gonna shit on Snoop's sales, even though Snoop influenced both of them a WHOLE lot, and that he's soundin like he wants it again.
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I'm impressed by Snoop Dogg.
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Its a little early to say but,
Imagine >>> any song on DA
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DA for sure, anyone saying DA lacks "direction" need to re-think that statement after hearing TBCT.
DA = 4.5/5
TBCT = 3.5/5
Both dope albums tho, I'm gonna cop all the Westcoast releases this month (Pac, Game & Snoop)
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Both albums are dope as fuck IMO but Im a bigger Snoop fan than Game so I know TBCT will get more rotation in my player.
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DA for sure, anyone saying DA lacks "direction" need to re-think that statement after hearing TBCT.
DA = 4.5/5
TBCT = 3.5/5
Both dope albums tho, I'm gonna cop all the Westcoast releases this month (Pac, Game & Snoop)
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DA for sure, anyone saying DA lacks "direction" need to re-think that statement after hearing TBCT.
DA = 4.5/5
TBCT = 3.5/5
Both dope albums tho, I'm gonna cop all the Westcoast releases this month (Pac, Game & Snoop)
nuff said...snops album is a banger tho....but too many skip shitty tracks.
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WUTUP EVERYBODY I HOPE PEOPLE ON HERE ARE NOT MEAN AS FUK AND ARE ALL WAYS TRYNA BE HARD AND SHIT LIKE OTHER FORUMS. WUTEVER BUT THIS IS MY FIRST POST ON HERE AND IVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR A WHILE BUT NEVER GOT THE ACTIVATION EMAIL SO YEA FUK IT
ANYWAYS SORRY FOR THAT BUT IM GONNA GET BOTH THE ALBUMS I SUPPORT THE WEST COAST TO THE FULLEST ALTHO IM FRUM BIG BAD KC IM A TRUE WEST COAST FAN FOR LIFE NO MATTER WHAT(ALSO KC RAP) BUT I THINK SNOOPS ALBUM IS GONNA BE BETTER BUT GAMES IS GONNA BE HOT THIS TIME HE TALKIN BOUT MAKING IT EVEN HARDER THAN THE DOCUMENTARY BUT HE SAID IT WAS A FEEL GOOD ALBUM BUT I HONESTLY THINK SNOOP IS BACK ON HIS GAME AND IS HUNGRY AND STOP DOIN THAT LETS GET BLWON SHIT AND THAT JUSTIN TIMBERWHITEFLAKE SHIT BUT I HEARD SUM SONGS AND THEY BOTH SOUND NICE BUT
SNOOP GOT THIS IN THE BAG I THINK BUT GAMES IS GONNA BE HOT AND SO IS PAC'S
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i think doctors advocate was better i was feelin snoops album diz time only like a couple songs i think the lyrics were on da same level of the games mayb a little better but the beats on blue carpet suck and on doctors advocate beats are fuken sik
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Game shit is wyyy better then snoops.
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I have to go with Doctors Advocate.
It would have been snoop doggs album but too much filler. If he took off 5 or 6 tracks it would have made it alot closer.
The blue carpet treatment had some real real dope classic tracks and at the same time had the opposite. Like number 14, 15, 17, and 18. I wasnt into those at all.
The Blue carpet Treatment started real dope and once number 14 came on it started going downhill and then the last two songs brought it up again. So if he would have took off 14 - 19 (most of 14 - 19 not all) it would have been alot better album.
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WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKIN LIKE IT'S ALREADY OUT THE ALBUM I MEAN
DON'T TELL ME THAT SNOOPS ALBUM IS OUT ALREADY
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Games album is good but i prefer snoop a lot more, he's more lyrical than game and his flow is better. Probs gonna cop both, but snoop's best tracks were better than games best tracks imo.
Imagine >>> Why You hate the game
Imagine >>> California Vacation
California Vacation + why you hate >>> TBCT bar imagine
DA bar why you hate game and cali vacation <<< Round Here + Boss Life + Get A Light
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After bumping TBCT for the whole day I'll say Snoop wins easilly. Both got 3,4 filler tracks, production on both is nice, on Snoops more consistent, has a better vibe to it and the most important factor is lyrics and flow. Snoop sounds hungry as fuck, he completley murdered couple of tracks, while Game on the other hand has never had strong lyrics.
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After bumping TBCT for the whole day I'll say Snoop wins easilly. Both got 3,4 filler tracks, production on both is nice, on Snoops more consistent, has a better vibe to it and the most important factor is lyrics and flow. Snoop sounds hungry as fuck, he completley murdered couple of tracks, while Game on the other hand has never had strong lyrics.
Yep....And Snoop spits wayyyyyyyyyy better shit on TBCT....Game raps about the same shit in every song (even tho most are dope) but Snoop raps about something different on every track here and he sounds as dope as ever on TBCT! Lyrically, Snoop stepped it up bigtime, and the flow is always on point.
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Yep. Just check " A Bitch I Knew". Thats some great story telling.
Also the difference is Snoop has couple of tracks that make you go :o. Game on the other hand has dope tracks but nothing outstanding.
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I haven't voted, because I just finished the snoop for the 1st time. a few more listens, and i'll vote. Right now, I'd say both are solid 3.5/4 stars outta 5, but no more. Both are decent efforts. Only 1 listen, but I already no there's at least 4 fillers on the snoop (like this, which 1 of you, beat up on yo pads, don't stop).
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there are fillers on the Snoop, but he also has 21 tracks compared to 16 on Games album....If you narrowed Snoops album down to 16, his album is easily better....
"The Blue Carpet Treatment">>>"Doctors Advocate">>>"Kingdom Come"
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After bumping TBCT for the whole day I'll say Snoop wins easilly. Both got 3,4 filler tracks, production on both is nice, on Snoops more consistent, has a better vibe to it and the most important factor is lyrics and flow. Snoop sounds hungry as fuck, he completley murdered couple of tracks, while Game on the other hand has never had strong lyrics.
What a suprise, you choose TBCT over DA - I didn't see that one coming.
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has a better vibe to it
Yeah thats why i went with "TBCT" but i got love for both.I will go out and buy both albums
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I haven't listened to either.
I'll vote after they both official hit the stores and I buy them and listen to them.
peace 8)
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DA is a gud album, but only had it 4 a week, need a little more time 2 giv a proper judgement on it. As for TBCT i've only listened 2 5 tracks from it so again need more time, but they r both soundin like quality albums, cant really choose between them at the mo!
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For me, the difference is obvious...I gotta go with Game on this one, 100%. "The Doctor's Advocate" wasn't perfect, but it mostly quality in production and lyrics and the album as a whole was a solid listening experience. "Tha Blue Carpet Treatment" is mostly filler with a couple pretty hot songs...like I said in the other topic, it REALLY disappointed me. Even months from now, I doubt I'm gonna change my mind.
So yeah..."Doctor's Advocate".
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did u listen "get a light" with damian marley??..a mean game is kool but i havent heard snoop spit like this since back in 96..that simple mean that muthafucka had it in.
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game is not hungry ;D
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Goddamn a lot of Game groupies here...
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Goddamn a lot of Game groupies here...
Word.
Lyrically TBCT is so much better and Snoop really went out of the box with this one, while Game played it safe and basically created your typical commercial rap album these days.
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Man all i got to say is " YOU WANT IT I GOT IT , DRIPPIN LIKE WATER BOY !!!!!!!!!!! CANDY !!!!!!!!! 8) 8)
THE TRUE WESTCOAST LEGENDS CAME SICK ON THAT TRACC - HATE IT OR LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8)
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I haven't listened to either.
I'll vote after they both official hit the stores and I buy them and listen to them.
peace 8)
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It has to be TBCT for me, DA is carried by its production
Snoops flow on Think About It >>>>Game's career
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After bumping TBCT for the whole day I'll say Snoop wins easilly. Both got 3,4 filler tracks, production on both is nice, on Snoops more consistent, has a better vibe to it and the most important factor is lyrics and flow. Snoop sounds hungry as fuck, he completley murdered couple of tracks, while Game on the other hand has never had strong lyrics.
What a suprise, you choose TBCT over DA - I didn't see that one coming.
this board is biased towards anything DPG related like Fox News is biased towards anything George W. Bush related.
The sad thing is that Snoop dropped a solid album but too much filler on it, although it's better than anything he's done since No Limit Top Dogg. but when you look at both albums overall, Game's album shits on Snoop's album, and this is coming from someone that isn't the biggest Game fan. His album IMO might be the best "commercial" west coast rap release of the year and is up there in general for rap album of the year.
However both TBCT and DA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay'z New album. That shit is HORRIBLE.
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After bumping TBCT for the whole day I'll say Snoop wins easilly. Both got 3,4 filler tracks, production on both is nice, on Snoops more consistent, has a better vibe to it and the most important factor is lyrics and flow. Snoop sounds hungry as fuck, he completley murdered couple of tracks, while Game on the other hand has never had strong lyrics.
What a suprise, you choose TBCT over DA - I didn't see that one coming.
this board is biased towards anything DPG related like Fox News is biased towards anything George W. Bush related.
The sad thing is that Snoop dropped a solid album but too much filler on it, although it's better than anything he's done since No Limit Top Dogg. but when you look at both albums overall, Game's album shits on Snoop's album, and this is coming from someone that isn't the biggest Game fan. His album IMO might be the best "commercial" west coast rap release of the year and is up there in general for rap album of the year.
However both TBCT and DA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay'z New album. That shit is HORRIBLE.
I agree witcha Mongoose LOL @ Dres Gurl I mean Detox u really suprised us with your choice since your the biggest Game Hater in the forum and tryd your hardest to post all his DA Tracks til they said theyd ban your ass if you did it again LOL give it up Both albums are good though Snoop impressed me
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in Detox's defense, I don't think he's really biased towards DPG haha
I think DA is better overall, but the best tracks from TBCT can go up against the best from DA easily...
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But don't you find games album a bit boring compared to snoops. I mean games album isn't anything special its just solid, more solid than snoops. Yet when snoop gets the chemistry right it sounds really good.
I'd rather listen to an album that tries to push boundaries and some of the tracks are very good then an album that is the safe option but more consistant. I agree with detox that games album is carried by the production whereas snoops isn't and snoop raps better overall.
Still both very good albums but snoops just more exciting...
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But don't you find games album a bit boring compared to snoops. I mean games album isn't anything special its just solid, more solid than snoops. Yet when snoop gets the chemistry right it sounds really good.
true... I get what you're sayin
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I'm giving it to Game on the strength that while there are some really good songs on TBCT, there's one too many filler tracks as well. I can listen to Game's from start to finish and not fast forward. It's a stronger album.
And don't even throw that dickrider shit at me, cuz I love both artists equally. It is what it is.
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the doctors advocate
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Theres some hot tracks on the snoop cd but the game cd is way better.
but there both good.. props to both
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this is REALLY tough because i think snoop's best tracks are better than game's best tracks. still, i think DA is overall a much more solid listen. snoop's flow is on point throughout the entire album and some of those songs are nuts (i love conversations), but i just like game's more. they're both really impressive albums by today's standards though.
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I'm giving it to Game on the strength that while there are some really good songs on TBCT, there's one too many filler tracks as well. I can listen to Game's from start to finish and not fast forward. It's a stronger album.
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this is REALLY tough because i think snoop's best tracks are better than game's best tracks. still, i think DA is overall a much more solid listen. snoop's flow is on point throughout the entire album and some of those songs are nuts (i love conversations), but i just like game's more. they're both really impressive albums by today's standards though.
oh yeah they both shit on jay, unfortunately.
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I'll sum it up like this -- Game made an album for the westcoast to feel...Snoop made an album for the whole world to feel.
It's like "listening" to a really good pee-wee football game, and then "listening" to an NFL game...we're talking about two different leagues here.
Snoop takes this easily.
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I'll sum it up like this -- Game made an album for the westcoast to feel...Snoop made an album for the whole world to feel.
It's like "listening" to a really good pee-wee football game, and then "listening" to an NFL game...we're talking about two different leagues here.
Snoop takes this easily.
i hate west coast rap. i liked games album. snoops just plain sucked.
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Hmmmm.....still haven't heard Snoop's enough times to really judge it like that, but I'd say....
Flow: Snoop by some
Presence on tracks: Equal...Game's strong voice commands songs, and Snoop's laid backness and comedic style can carry songs and transitions through songs
Beats: Equal.....too different to compare. Snoop's production is a bit more diverse, but does have some complete throwaways. Game's is more solid, but most of it has that similar vibe to it.
Singles: Snoop by some, just depends on taste. It's nothing on Game's album that'll rock a club like "Candy" or "I wanna fuck you"
Content and Lyrics: Snoop by a lot...surprisingly to some people I'm sure
Consistency: Game, since he doesn't have but 1-2 tracks that most people could really call "filler", and some people may even like those
Appeal outside of the West: Game by a lot....Snoop's album is made more for West Coast fans, which is great for us, but makes it harder to push to the nation.
Appeal inside the West: Tie.....Game's sound is a mixture of the early 90's, "Pre-Chronic G-Funk" sound, and the modern day Aftermath style....while Snoop's sounds like the straight 2000's DPG style, with a lil Dre, and a lil of everything else.
I think it really depends on my mood though...I like the vibe to Snoop's better because it's more upbeat and more comedic. But Game's album seems to be a bit stronger to me, overall...especially since no one expected it to be.
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I'll sum it up like this -- Game made an album for the westcoast to feel...Snoop made an album for the whole world to feel.
It's like "listening" to a really good pee-wee football game, and then "listening" to an NFL game...we're talking about two different leagues here.
Snoop takes this easily.
I definitely think it's the opposite.....Game's whole style and music is more appealing to the rest of the country than Snoop's is...and Snoop made this album to cater to the West Coast, which is something he didn't do on his last album. Game's first album was made for the world to feel, and his new one definitely has much more of a West Coast feel to it....but Snoop's still has much more of a West Coast sound overall.
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I'll sum it up like this -- Game made an album for the westcoast to feel...Snoop made an album he felt.
*Fixed*
It's like "listening" to a really good pee-wee football game, and then "listening" to an NFL game...we're talking about two different leagues here.
Snoop takes this easily.
Wow, I have seen some Snoop groupies express their love for anything Snoop related since I've been posting on this board, but this is definately up there in absurdness, because "Doctor's Advocate" is MUCH more solid and polished effort, MUCH better production, and more importantly, it shows that a newer west artist can actually stand on his own two feet and make a decent album.
This is probably Snoop's best effort in years, but this album is horrifically inconsistant. Tracks 1-5, then it goes into that Shitfest known as "Candy", then tracks 7-10 are good, "10 Lil' Crips" is filler, IMO "A Bitch I knew" is boring and played out filler material, track 14 with Western Union is hot, then 15-19 is more filler material, then tracks 19-21 are good. Take away all the filler tracks, then add on a couple tracks (such as "My Peoples" and "Do what it do" w/La Zuu) and all of a sudden, you have an album that would not only be hot musically, but could actually be a better album than "The Doctor's Advocate" and be a candidate for rap album of the year. Take a look at this tracklisting of TBCT that I put together, taking away the filler and adding the other tracks...definately sounds better than TBCT you'll find in stores.
1. Snoop Dogg - Intrology (Feat. George Clinton) (1:59)
2. Snoop Dogg - Think About It (3:37)
3. Snoop Dogg - Crazy (Feat. Nate Dogg) (4:26)
4. Snoop Dogg - Vato (Feat. B-Real) (4:44)
5. Snoop Dogg - That's That (Feat. R. Kelly) (4:17)
6. Snoop Dogg - Get A Light (Feat. Damian Marley) (3:41)
7. Snoop Dogg - Gangbangin' 101 (Feat. The Game) (4:02)
8. Snoop Dogg - Boss' Life (Feat. Akon) (3:22)
9. Snoop Dogg - LAX (Feat. Ice Cube) (3:21)
10. Snoop Dogg - Round Here (3:42)
11. Snoop Dogg - Like This (Feat. Western Union, LaToiya Williams & Raul Midon) (3:56)
12. Snoop Dogg - Don't Stop (Feat. The Warzone & Kurupt) (3:22)
13. Snoop Dogg - Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (4:42)
14. Snoop Dogg - Conversations (Feat. Stevie Wonder) (3:38)
15. Snoop Dogg - What It Do (Feat. LA Zuu) (4:07)
16. Snoop Dogg - My Peoples (5:41)
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I'll sum it up like this -- Game made an album for the westcoast to feel...Snoop made an album for the whole world to feel.
It's like "listening" to a really good pee-wee football game, and then "listening" to an NFL game...we're talking about two different leagues here.
Snoop takes this easily.
I definitely think it's the opposite.....Game's whole style and music is more appealing to the rest of the country than Snoop's is...and Snoop made this album to cater to the West Coast, which is something he didn't do on his last album. Game's first album was made for the world to feel, and his new one definitely has much more of a West Coast feel to it....but Snoop's still has much more of a West Coast sound overall.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I just don't see how you think Snoop's album has more of a local feel than Game's.
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i really like both alot, for different reasons. although, i think Imagine could possibly be the hip-hop track of the year. it's a song that feels like it has so much emotion in it that it adds to the overall track. i love it.
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IMO "A Bitch I knew" is boring and played out filler material
::) How could you say this when Game's album is filled with contrived attempts to make songs like this one? You are contradicting yourself.
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IMO "A Bitch I knew" is boring and played out filler material
::) How could you say this when Game's album is filled with contrived attempts to make songs like this one? You are contradicting yourself.
How am I contradicting myself? the production is tight, but this song is the definition of boring lyrically. this shit sounds like it was ripped off out of the Too Short catalogue. His lyrics bring nothing to the table and pretty much, we've heard the content 1000x. Like I said, this is pretty much a cheap imitation of a Too Short song
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This is probably Snoop's best effort in years, but this album is horrifically inconsistant. Tracks 1-5, then it goes into that Shitfest known as "Candy", then tracks 7-10 are good, "10 Lil' Crips" is filler, IMO "A Bitch I knew" is boring and played out filler material, track 14 with Western Union is hot, then 15-19 is more filler material, then tracks 19-21 are good. Take away all the filler tracks, then add on a couple tracks (such as "My Peoples" and "Do what it do" w/La Zuu) and all of a sudden, you have an album that would not only be hot musically, but could actually be a better album than "The Doctor's Advocate" and be a candidate for rap album of the year. Take a look at this tracklisting of TBCT that I put together, taking away the filler and adding the other tracks...definately sounds better than TBCT you'll find in stores.
1. Snoop Dogg - Intrology (Feat. George Clinton) (1:59)
2. Snoop Dogg - Think About It (3:37)
3. Snoop Dogg - Crazy (Feat. Nate Dogg) (4:26)
4. Snoop Dogg - Vato (Feat. B-Real) (4:44)
5. Snoop Dogg - That's That (Feat. R. Kelly) (4:17)
6. Snoop Dogg - Get A Light (Feat. Damian Marley) (3:41)
7. Snoop Dogg - Gangbangin' 101 (Feat. The Game) (4:02)
8. Snoop Dogg - Boss' Life (Feat. Akon) (3:22)
9. Snoop Dogg - LAX (Feat. Ice Cube) (3:21)
10. Snoop Dogg - Round Here (3:42)
11. Snoop Dogg - Like This (Feat. Western Union, LaToiya Williams & Raul Midon) (3:56)
12. Snoop Dogg - Don't Stop (Feat. The Warzone & Kurupt) (3:22)
13. Snoop Dogg - Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (4:42)
14. Snoop Dogg - Conversations (Feat. Stevie Wonder) (3:38)
15. Snoop Dogg - What It Do (Feat. LA Zuu) (4:07)
16. Snoop Dogg - My Peoples (5:41)
Word son. (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Except I don't like 11 or 12.
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Game's Album is waaaaaaay better....Snoop is never going to be the rapper he was with deathrow and no Limit
"You old niggas is wash'd up like N.O." :D
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IMO "A Bitch I knew" is boring and played out filler material
::) How could you say this when Game's album is filled with contrived attempts to make songs like this one? You are contradicting yourself.
How am I contradicting myself? the production is tight, but this song is the definition of boring lyrically. this shit sounds like it was ripped off out of the Too Short catalogue. His lyrics bring nothing to the table and pretty much, we've heard the content 1000x. Like I said, this is pretty much a cheap imitation of a Too Short song
A Bitch I Knew is dope as fuck. I guess you probably dont like California Vacation and Compton of Games album either.
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A Bitch I Knew is dope as fuck. I guess you probably dont like California Vacation and Compton of Games album either.
"California Vacation" and "Compton" are both hot and have nothing to do with "A bitch I knew"....I'm still waiting on someone to defend the song without comparing it to other material to TRY to make it sound like it's a decent song lyric wise
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A Bitch I Knew is dope as fuck. I guess you probably dont like California Vacation and Compton of Games album either.
"California Vacation" and "Compton" are both hot and have nothing to do with "A bitch I knew"....I'm still waiting on someone to defend the song without comparing it to other material to TRY to make it sound like it's a decent song lyric wise
The reason i compared it to Compton and Cali vacation is because you said its a cheap imitation of Too Short and its nothing new. And you think cali vacation and compton are original/new/fresh? You dont think the g-funk sound is played out for about 10 years now? Im not saying A bitch i knew is lyrical wise a special song, but if you say its nothing new, you could say the same thing for Game's album. If you look at Snoops last album, its a whole lot different now. You cant say the same for Game's album. It has the same concept as his first album. I got nothing against Game, but its not like Game is bringing so much news to the table.
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The reason i compared it to Compton and Cali vacation is because you said its a cheap imitation of Too Short and its nothing new. And you think cali vacation and compton are original/new/fresh? You dont think the g-funk sound is played out for about 10 years now? Im not saying A bitch i knew is lyrical wise a special song, but if you say its nothing new, you could say the same thing for Game's album. If you look at Snoops last album, its a whole lot different now. You cant say the same for Game's album. It has the same concept as his first album. I got nothing against Game, but its not like Game is bringing so much news to the table.
Here's the difference between the two, because the sound of Snoop's album is different than Game's: Snoop has a few more albums under his belt and is already established, so he has room to experiment (which explains the inconsistancy of his album). Game is dropping his sophmore album, which is really his freshman album part 2 because he has to prove to the world that he can drop a solo album without Dre/50's help. For him to sell, he's got to have an established fan base and this record is a solid record all the way through, with only one track that is truely a filler track ("Scream on em").
I never said that either track as original, new, or fresh. G-Funk sound is played out, however everyone sounded more inspired on "California Vacation" than on other tracks in which the people have collabo'd on, and "Compton" is more of a throwback to the NWA sound rather than the G-Funk sound. Flat out, both tracks are better songs than "A bitch I knew" IMO.
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The reason i compared it to Compton and Cali vacation is because you said its a cheap imitation of Too Short and its nothing new. And you think cali vacation and compton are original/new/fresh? You dont think the g-funk sound is played out for about 10 years now? Im not saying A bitch i knew is lyrical wise a special song, but if you say its nothing new, you could say the same thing for Game's album. If you look at Snoops last album, its a whole lot different now. You cant say the same for Game's album. It has the same concept as his first album. I got nothing against Game, but its not like Game is bringing so much news to the table.
Here's the difference between the two, because the sound of Snoop's album is different than Game's: Snoop has a few more albums under his belt and is already established, so he has room to experiment (which explains the inconsistancy of his album). Game is dropping his sophmore album, which is really his freshman album part 2 because he has to prove to the world that he can drop a solo album without Dre/50's help. For him to sell, he's got to have an established fan base and this record is a solid record all the way through, with only one track that is truely a filler track ("Scream on em").
I never said that either track as original, new, or fresh. G-Funk sound is played out, however everyone sounded more inspired on "California Vacation" than on other tracks in which the people have collabo'd on, and "Compton" is more of a throwback to the NWA sound rather than the G-Funk sound. Flat out, both tracks are better songs than "A bitch I knew" IMO.
Well its all a matter of taste. We can continu this discusion forever, but its useless. Im not gonna convince you and your not gonna convince me. A Bitch I Knew is dope imo.
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in my opinion game made an album for teenagers and snoop made an album for people in their twenties and above.
game's album got an overall westcoast softer pop sound (jr and storch) and lyrically its interestin since its somekind of reallife soap of his life as an artist 'rapstar' and admitted wannabe.
snoops album is harder to get into. it contains two sides. the first is from track 1 to 13 and then there is some kind of church to palace mixtape in which other artists and experimental music is promoted. it ends classy with the deeper standout tracks imagine and talk with god.
snoops overall production is by far not as accessable and sunny as games but it has more potential hitrecords on it.
the only real big hit i can imagine on games album is too much (maybe also the kanye track will be appealin if vida guerra in the video) which is experimental and in forefront of todays musical wave.
snoops obvious hits thats that shit, boss life and imagine. dre really did his thing. imagine snoops album without the dre beats. that shit would be garbage. Dre has made this album really big. Probably going multi platinum if they release boss life as follow up single. that song will appeal to everybody. quality gangsterpop.
if i balance both albums i have to pick snoops. snoops is more mature better flow and it contains the absolute banger bitch i knew. this track is probably the dopest gangster record i have heard in years. it is kind of similar beat to a song in his old deathrow days from the unreleased album after godfather but its so much bigger. games album is suprisingly good, his personality grew, his flow has really improved but its missin the hits. still it will do platinum big; too much suburbteenagers wannabe bloods these days.
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Snoop easily.
more tracks that stands out.
I've been listening to Game's all weekend, and i can only find 3 tracks which stands out. Doc's Advocate, Ol' English and Cali Vacation. Maybe that Kanye track too. the last track is too long and it almost ruins the whole track.
Now I'm on my 3rd listen thru Snoop's and i like almost every song. He could probably shortened the tracklist. Imagine is crazy
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DA for sure, anyone saying DA lacks "direction" need to re-think that statement after hearing TBCT.
DA = 4.5/5
TBCT = 3.5/5
Both dope albums tho, I'm gonna cop all the Westcoast releases this month (Pac, Game & Snoop)
lol if u cop pac, u don't support west coast, you support just the fuckin record companies...
To topic:
I listened to Game 1 time, I really don't like him as a person, shit-talking, loud at the mouth and such things, I hate that, but I gave it a listen, just to check out a high anticipated westcoast album. It has cool songs on it, good production. Then I have to say, Snoop was always my favourite, I listened to TBCT and shit, I was so damn surprised. At first when it came to the talk about the new album one year ago, I wasn't really excited because R&G was fucking weak. Then came the first songs, Real Talk, Vato, My Peoples and so on and that hyped me, especially the Real Talk Video. But then I heard about two Akon features and shit like and I thought he just told us a bunch of shit. When I listened to it, I felt like "wow, so much energy and emotion in it". that album is way more personal and it has a clear thread. It's a westcoast sounding album and guesta appearences like Jamie Foxx, R. Kelly or Akon didn't disappoint me. Just to say that I think we got the weakest Battlecat beat of this year on it, L.A.X. ain't that good that I expected. "I Wanna Fuck You" should have been left. Gangbangin 101 is also a weak beat, the rest of the album is tight, no fillers or unlistenable tracks. But I think MC Eiht ain't that good on "Don' Stop". All in all, very dope album, I think my soundtrack of the year. It kicked KoKane's "Pain Killer'z" off the throne ^^
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Take away all the filler tracks, then add on a couple tracks (such as "My Peoples" and "Do what it do" w/La Zuu)
LOL, how can you like "Do What It Do" and dislike "Candy"? both Hyphy and "Candy" is way better than the other. Like I said a few times, MC Eiht on this Hyphy track is CLASSIC shit! One of my favourite song on TBCT. Game's album isn't produced better. I think it's just different flavour...
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Take away all the filler tracks, then add on a couple tracks (such as "My Peoples" and "Do what it do" w/La Zuu)
LOL, how can you like "Do What It Do" and dislike "Candy"? both Hyphy and "Candy" is way better than the other. Like I said a few times, MC Eiht on this Hyphy track is CLASSIC shit! One of my favourite song on TBCT. Game's album isn't produced better. I think it's just different flavour...
if that MC Eiht verse is "classic", he should have retired before he ever started rapping.
The lineup sounds crazy on paper, but when you hear a subpar Rick Rock beat with subpar lyrics, leaves more to be desired. The beat to "Do what it do" is hot, and the La Zuu comes through with hot verses, especialy with Threat, who should have deserved his spotlight a while ago.
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A Bitch I Knew is dope as fuck. I guess you probably dont like California Vacation and Compton of Games album either.
"California Vacation" and "Compton" are both hot and have nothing to do with "A bitch I knew"....I'm still waiting on someone to defend the song without comparing it to other material to TRY to make it sound like it's a decent song lyric wise
The reason i compared it to Compton and Cali vacation is because you said its a cheap imitation of Too Short and its nothing new. And you think cali vacation and compton are original/new/fresh? You dont think the g-funk sound is played out for about 10 years now? Im not saying A bitch i knew is lyrical wise a special song, but if you say its nothing new, you could say the same thing for Game's album. If you look at Snoops last album, its a whole lot different now. You cant say the same for Game's album. It has the same concept as his first album. I got nothing against Game, but its not like Game is bringing so much news to the table.
Thank you. Finally somebody listens to reason and make logical sense.
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The reason i compared it to Compton and Cali vacation is because you said its a cheap imitation of Too Short and its nothing new. And you think cali vacation and compton are original/new/fresh? You dont think the g-funk sound is played out for about 10 years now? Im not saying A bitch i knew is lyrical wise a special song, but if you say its nothing new, you could say the same thing for Game's album. If you look at Snoops last album, its a whole lot different now. You cant say the same for Game's album. It has the same concept as his first album. I got nothing against Game, but its not like Game is bringing so much news to the table.
Here's the difference between the two, because the sound of Snoop's album is different than Game's: Snoop has a few more albums under his belt and is already established, so he has room to experiment (which explains the inconsistancy of his album). Game is dropping his sophmore album, which is really his freshman album part 2 because he has to prove to the world that he can drop a solo album without Dre/50's help. For him to sell, he's got to have an established fan base and this record is a solid record all the way through, with only one track that is truely a filler track ("Scream on em").
I never said that either track as original, new, or fresh. G-Funk sound is played out, however everyone sounded more inspired on "California Vacation" than on other tracks in which the people have collabo'd on, and "Compton" is more of a throwback to the NWA sound rather than the G-Funk sound. Flat out, both tracks are better songs than "A bitch I knew" IMO.
Dog, you're admitting right here that Game made a conventional album, while Snoop was more experimental, more artistically creative. Read that sentence again and think about which album is better afterwards. Conventional and contrived vs. artistically driven and ambitious. I shouldn't have to spell this out for you...and for these reasons, that is why I said you're contradicting yourself.
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in my opinion game made an album for teenagers and snoop made an album for people in their twenties and above.
Which goes hand in hand with why I said that Game's album is like good pee-wee football while Snoop's is like the NFL.
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Snoop dogg album sound way better and well put togther then the game albu,snoop beats and everything is on more point then games album,snoop got the better album by far hands down
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By the way, fillers on Game's album include -- Bang, Around the World, and Da Shit...in addition to the Swizz Beatz.
Besides, Snoop's had way more songs than Game. Condense Snoop's to 16 tracks and make an apples to apples comparison, why don't ya?
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Lyrics - Snoop
beats - Game
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Both are really really good, this is hard, but Snoop shines like his old days on some of TBCT tracks... so, gotta go with Snoop
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Dog, you're admitting right here that Game made a conventional album, while Snoop was more experimental, more artistically creative. Read that sentence again and think about which album is better afterwards. Conventional and contrived vs. artistically driven and ambitious. I shouldn't have to spell this out for you...and for these reasons, that is why I said you're contradicting yourself.
That was obvious from the beginning, however experimental doesn't always equal a solid album and Snoop's album is proof of it. The only fillers on Games album are "Scream on em" and "Da shit". Game's album, whether the Snoop-biased board wants to admit it or not, is a better all around album. Snoop's album is all over the place and is very inconsistant. Good album? Yes. Better than Game's? No.
Besides, Snoop's had way more songs than Game. Condense Snoop's to 16 tracks and make an apples to apples comparison, why don't ya?
You obviously missed a post I made earlier in which I successfully condensed TBCT into a bangin', consistant 16 track album instead of an album that's all over the place.
This is probably Snoop's best effort in years, but this album is horrifically inconsistant. Tracks 1-5, then it goes into that Shitfest known as "Candy", then tracks 7-10 are good, "10 Lil' Crips" is filler, IMO "A Bitch I knew" is boring and played out filler material, track 14 with Western Union is hot, then 15-19 is more filler material, then tracks 19-21 are good. Take away all the filler tracks, then add on a couple tracks (such as "My Peoples" and "Do what it do" w/La Zuu) and all of a sudden, you have an album that would not only be hot musically, but could actually be a better album than "The Doctor's Advocate" and be a candidate for rap album of the year. Take a look at this tracklisting of TBCT that I put together, taking away the filler and adding the other tracks...definately sounds better than TBCT you'll find in stores.
1. Snoop Dogg - Intrology (Feat. George Clinton) (1:59)
2. Snoop Dogg - Think About It (3:37)
3. Snoop Dogg - Crazy (Feat. Nate Dogg) (4:26)
4. Snoop Dogg - Vato (Feat. B-Real) (4:44)
5. Snoop Dogg - That's That (Feat. R. Kelly) (4:17)
6. Snoop Dogg - Get A Light (Feat. Damian Marley) (3:41)
7. Snoop Dogg - Gangbangin' 101 (Feat. The Game) (4:02)
8. Snoop Dogg - Boss' Life (Feat. Akon) (3:22)
9. Snoop Dogg - LAX (Feat. Ice Cube) (3:21)
10. Snoop Dogg - Round Here (3:42)
11. Snoop Dogg - Like This (Feat. Western Union, LaToiya Williams & Raul Midon) (3:56)
12. Snoop Dogg - Don't Stop (Feat. The Warzone & Kurupt) (3:22)
13. Snoop Dogg - Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (4:42)
14. Snoop Dogg - Conversations (Feat. Stevie Wonder) (3:38)
15. Snoop Dogg - What It Do (Feat. LA Zuu) (4:07)
16. Snoop Dogg - My Peoples (5:41)
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After giving both a couple listens, Doc's Groupie is much better. This is Snoop's best record in years though, better than Tha Last Meal.
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They are both good you cannot go wrong with either one.
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lol
this was my first post on the forum
but yeah blue carpet treatment is better than doctors advocate
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Snoop Dogg-Tha Blue Carpet Treatment easily!!!!
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Tha Blue Carpet Treatment
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after years of debate!