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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Chief on November 21, 2006, 09:16:50 AM
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dude has so many fly singles on his cd, my bet is he sells atleast twice as much as game.
kingdom come >>> Doctors advocate
it's now official, kingdom come is a dope cd... that track with beyonce :o watch it blow up.
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Ive said it cuple times now Kingdom Come>>> DA and TBCT
YOu can listen it from front to back, minus the Beyonce track. Completley different subject matters than the regular gangsta bs.
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Yeah it won't.
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I don't like this CD, but hey, like Game said, bitches love that Jay shit, that's their favorite.
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not a bad cd at all.. better than what i expected because i usually dont like the jay cds all that much... but games is better
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The Game's album shits all over Jigga's.
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To be honest i hate kingdom come but im not really a jay fan so..... :-X the only real song ive ever like of his was A Million And One Questions and yet i cant manage to find it ne where :( To answer your question the DA shits all over KC and the BCT is a chill album , Beach Chair is the only decent tune, sorry but thats the truth. I cnt see KC doubling games sales, not even selling more! Game will sell 2.0 mill and Jiggas 1.5 mill...
*Sits & waits for the hate to begin*
O yea does ne1 have that Million and One Questions tune?
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This is how you decide:
Filler tracks: Jay 1, Game 4, Snoop 4
Subject matter: Jay and Snoop bout the sime, Game is eliminated automatically.
Production: Game has a strong pro here but still not enough for the win
Winner: Jay-Z
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Wot filler tracks does the DA have? Snoops has a few but that expected with a snoop album, and to be honest apart from Beach chair all of Jay-Zs album is filler, it was rushed and ruined, shudnt have been released, FULL STOP!
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This is how you decide:
Filler tracks: Jay 1, Game 4, Snoop 4
Subject matter: Jay and Snoop bout the sime, Game is eliminated automatically.
Production: Game has a strong pro here but still not enough for the win
Winner: Jay-Z
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Lol at this whole thread
1) what's the link between sales and the quality of the album ? of course Jay gonna outsell Game coz he's a confirmed superstar, he's coming back, crossover tracks on the album... BUT
2) Game album is still way better :
- Some poor crossover/ RNB hooks ruins some tracks on Jay album, Usher, B, and on the Swizz beat , production is fire but the chorus is :-X
- of course Jay lyrics >>>>>>> Game ones
though beats on Game album >>>>> Jay one and BY FAR
Game improved his flow when Jay fell off BIG delivery wise
DA >>> TBCT>>>KC and for the record, I own all Jay lps so I don't hate on hilm at all
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This is how you decide:
Filler tracks: Game 1,Jay 4, Snoop 4
Subject matter: Jay and Snoop bout the same.
Production: Game has a strong pro here
Winner: Game
This is just about right....
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am i the only one who think jay-z album sucks?
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Lol at this whole thread
1) what's the link between sales and the quality of the album ? of course Jay gonna outsell Game coz he's a confirmed superstar, he's coming back, crossover tracks on the album... BUT
2) Game album is still way better :
- Some poor crossover/ RNB hooks ruins some tracks on Jay album, Usher, B, and on the Swizz beat , production is fire but the chorus is :-X
- of course Jay lyrics >>>>>>> Game ones
though beats on Game album >>>>> Jay one and BY FAR
Game improved his flow when Jay fell off BIG delivery wise
DA >>> TBCT>>>KC and for the record, I own all Jay lps so I don't hate on hilm at all
*Agrees*
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it's now official, kingdom come is a dope cd... that track with beyonce :o watch it blow up.
Word, that Beyonce song is nutz.
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am i the only one who think jay-z album sucks?
no. that shiet is gay. even the Dre production couldn't save it.
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what? you guys are crazy. The JayZ album is a huge dissapointment. Plus, I own all of JayZ albums, so Im not hating. This album is nowhere near what I expected. JayZ only has one bangin ass song on his whole cd and its the title track. The rest of his album is boring as fuck.
DA, TBCT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kingdom Come
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LOL there were 3 good songs on Kingdom Come and thats it album was pathetic. DA is wayyyy better
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Lol at this whole thread
1) what's the link between sales and the quality of the album ? of course Jay gonna outsell Game coz he's a confirmed superstar, he's coming back, crossover tracks on the album... BUT
2) Game album is still way better :
- Some poor crossover/ RNB hooks ruins some tracks on Jay album, Usher, B, and on the Swizz beat , production is fire but the chorus is :-X
- of course Jay lyrics >>>>>>> Game ones
though beats on Game album >>>>> Jay one and BY FAR
Game improved his flow when Jay fell off BIG delivery wise
DA >>> TBCT>>>KC and for the record, I own all Jay lps so I don't hate on hilm at all
There are 2 rnb tracks, the Beyonce one sucks but that Usher joint is catchy as fuck, cant deny that.
Like you said lyrically theres no competition
And production is banging on both but you gotta look at the whole vibe and constructure of the beats. On Games album the Swizz,Kanye and Jamie Foxx joints sounds completley out of place. The whole album is like one compilation with several different producers, and whats most important, they have different style. Its ok if you have J.R., Storch, Dre, Foucs becuase they have the same sound. But most albums these days are fucked by too many producers.
And still no matter how good the production is you cant have a great album with good lyrics and vice versa. Game subject matter is so limited that its crazy predictable. Again Jay has better subject matters, same with Snoop who lyrically owned both Game and Jigga.
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^^Well I aint gona lie Jay is much better lyrically then Game, I just thought Game put together a much better album.
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Ive said it cuple times now Kingdom Come>>> DA and TBCT
I never laughed so hard in my entire life. Let's be honest here:
DA > Kingdom Come > TBCT
Jay will probably outsell Game's CD, but that's because HE'S THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF DEF JAM!!! There will be an endless supply of singles, videos, radio play, and promotion going towards that album.
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^Yup Im not impressed w/ anything Jay does lately, of course his album will sell, look at how much $ he is spending on promotion, he is so lame. And I think Game's album is much better.
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^Yup Im not impressed w/ anything Jay does lately, of course his album will sell, look at how much $ he is spending on promotion, he is so lame. And I think Game's album is much better.
Exactly.
Game's album is more fresh and has better production. To whoever said people are tired of that gangsta shit....maybe, but Jigga talking about how he's back and how great he is, and mentioning his age in every song isn't much better.
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C'mon fellas, did you expect Detox to say anything different?
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You guys mustnt forget this is my personal opinion. It depends on the taste. If you like music for you car its Game, if you like that gangsta shit its Snoop, if you like more mature sound its Jigga.
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am i the only one who think jay-z album sucks?
no the album is straight garbage
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am i the only one who think jay-z album sucks?
no the album is straight garbage
The majority of people think it sucks. You'll never hear the media outlets and DJs say that though. They don't wanna get blackballed.
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if game was to sell more than jigga 1st week sales it would confirm jigga as the dumbest ceo in the history of hiphop.......the nigga should sell close to a million copies 1st week with his power
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LMFAO@Game having as many filler tracks as Snoop. Sorry, Meho, many apologies, but you just lost your cred with that one for once and for all.
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am i the only one who think jay-z album sucks?
no the album is straight garbage
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am i the only one who think jay-z album sucks?
no the album is straight garbage
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jay pushed 750k his first week. His promotion has been beyond ridiculous. They had his ass up in the booth on Monday Night Football last night plugging that shit.
Having said that, I'm not copping this album. It was boring, predictable, and completely over hyped. Production was very lame as was Jay.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jay pushed 750k his first week. His promotion has been beyond ridiculous. They had his ass up in the booth on Monday Night Football last night plugging that shit.
Having said that, I'm not copping this album. It was boring, predictable, and completely over hyped. Production was very lame as was Jay.
If he doesn't have a successful 1st week, he should step down from president of Def Jam.
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You can just tell Jay didnt put that much effort into his CD and i own all his CDs.I was very disapointed with KC but liike Detox said his album does have a few Mainstream singles that will push Jay to at least 2x plat but i really wouldnt bump his album at all.Games cd is way better and you can tell that he put alot of effort into his cd.Jay will sell no matter what and thats the bottom line and Game had to put alot of effort into his shit cuz alot people still doubt/hate Game and he just had to shut them haters up.
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the album is a grown man talking
you don't have to be 30+ to dig it but understand the perspective he's coming from and you'll realise this album is dope
put it into context
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Beats- DA
Flow- TBCT. Game swagger jacked Dre's flow almost the whole album. Still dope but not original
Lyrics- DA/TBCT
So far for me- DA>TBCT>KC
Jay just did not bring his A game. Sounded like he was trying to use that almost whisper flow on too many tracks and before he would say some slick lines, there are not too many quotables on this and that is almost unheard of on a Jay album. It will sell because it is Jay but he can do better than this.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jay pushed 750k his first week. His promotion has been beyond ridiculous. They had his ass up in the booth on Monday Night Football last night plugging that shit.
Having said that, I'm not copping this album. It was boring, predictable, and completely over hyped. Production was very lame as was Jay.
If he doesn't have a successful 1st week, he should step down from president of Def Jam.
He should step down from president of Def Jam regardless. Only thing he's done well is promoting himself.
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Kingdom Come is the fuckin' shit, Jay came off like he always does, he definitely showed why he is the king, the Game cd is also fuckin' bananas, he definitely stepped his flow up, but of course Jay wins this battle, THE ROC IS IN THE BUILDIN'
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Dre's Gurl I mean Detox likes Jay's album more because Dre produced 5 tracks on the album him being the biggest Dre Stan there is you shouldnt expect him to say anything different.
KC cant fuck with SNOOP TBCT or Game DA
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the album is a grown man talking
That's everyone's excuse for the album being weak.
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But most albums these days are fucked by too many producers.
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Jigga's album will sell because non-rap fans will buy it, thinking that because it's Jay-Z they're up on the latest hip hop.
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the only song that's REALLY off the hook @ jigga's album is anythang, goddam i love that song, the rest tho, i dont really care about :P its an aiite album like i said before but i prefer snoops and games over it.
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Jigga's album will sell because non-rap fans will buy it, thinking that because it's Jay-Z they're up on the latest hip hop.
LOL!!!! so true
Jigga is done ya'll..he should go Listen to Diamond is Forever That was the last time he CAME RAL CORRECT
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^Yup Im not impressed w/ anything Jay does lately, of course his album will sell, look at how much $ he is spending on promotion, he is so lame. And I think Game's album is much better.
Exactly.
Game's album is more fresh and has better production. To whoever said people are tired of that gangsta shit....maybe, but Jigga talking about how he's back and how great he is, and mentioning his age in every song isn't much better.
^Exactly...& people are saying that Game flopped but selling 380k with no real big singles, no Dre/G-Unit/Aftermath, & being a West Coast artist not named Cube, Snoop or Dre is a big accomplishment in itself...
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^Yup Im not impressed w/ anything Jay does lately, of course his album will sell, look at how much $ he is spending on promotion, he is so lame. And I think Game's album is much better.
Exactly.
Game's album is more fresh and has better production. To whoever said people are tired of that gangsta shit....maybe, but Jigga talking about how he's back and how great he is, and mentioning his age in every song isn't much better.
^Exactly...& people are saying that Game flopped but selling 380k with no real big singles, no Dre/G-Unit/Aftermath, & being a West Coast artist not named Cube, Snoop or Dre is a big accomplishment in itself...
Having sexy time with that girl in your sig would also be a big accomplishment in itself.
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Jigga's album will sell because non-rap fans will buy it, thinking that because it's Jay-Z they're up on the latest hip hop.
yeah man thats how people think ::)
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wtf ??? are these peeps on dubcc all on crack? It has nothin to do with opinions!! Jay-Z's album sucks, sucks big times, those beats he choosed are wack, his voice is ugly and sucks, lyrics wise ok he is good, but still that album is wack! The dre beats sound like 2000, the trouble beat is techno !!
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I don't like this CD, but hey, like Game said, bitches love that Jay shit, that's their favorite.
seen.
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jay album was an uspet to me, first 7 tracks are dope, the rest is garbage... i gotta listen to doctors advocate to make a comparison tho...