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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: desbanks on November 30, 2006, 06:16:31 AM
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Man is it me or nobody is actually accepting that compared to thier last album OUTKAST did not even go gold, hmmmmmm open for discussion folks
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Andre lost his desire for hip-hop after the Stankonia album; and his strength was as an emcee and not as a played out Lenny Kravitz. I think the success of their "Love Below" album was a fluke. They are done. But still, 4 great albums is better than any other hip-hop group has been able to achieve. Like they said on the track Aquemini; "Nothing last forever".
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them niggaz fell off a long time ago right after ATLiens, then switched their whole style up with that pop hey ya album, now it's all over
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big boi should do a solo album, andre is so gay
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big boi should do a solo album, andre is so gay
Well Speakerboxxx was one, wasn't it?
But yeah, Outkast - as a duo - seems to be pretty much done. Andre clearly wants to do something else than what he's best at. I got faith in Big Boi still though, although I gotta say that I didn't hear their last album (besides Morris Brown) so I don't know what he did on there.
With the proper production (never a problem with Big Boi, anyway) Big Boi could cook up some heat.
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SO HOW MUCH DID IDLEWILD SELL. HOW MANY UNITS
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
when u reached the top, you wouldnt just stick around and sit there, u move onto new pastures
the love below album wasnt a fluke, its brilliant
and the big boi tracks on idlewild let it down, the ones andre was involved in are also brilliant
you all need to take games dick out of your ears
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
when u reached the top, you wouldnt just stick around and sit there, u move onto new pastures
the love below album wasnt a fluke, its brilliant
and the big boi tracks on idlewild let it down, the ones andre was involved in are also brilliant
you all need to take games dick out of your ears
and u need to get ras kass dick outta ur mouth
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big boi should do a solo album, andre is so gay
"The Love Below" > "Speakerboxxx" anyday.
i know how Dre feels. i think we've all had our lil moments where we got sick of hip hop.
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I still enjoy their music.
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
For real. Andre still got it, he just gotta act normal again.
I did not listen to that Love Below, Speakerbox, or Idlewild albums becuz that shit imo can't compare wit what they used to do. Now its all pop.
'Morris Brown' is the shit though. 8)
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big boi should do a solo album, andre is so gay
"The Love Below" > "Speakerboxxx" anyday.
i know how Dre feels. i think we've all had our lil moments where we got sick of hip hop.
exactly
andre is an artist....artists can't be confined to one sound or style, if they do they become stale and a self parody. outkast may be done. but if we've learned anything from goodie mob and c-lo it's that the true artist of the group is never done.
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big boi should do a solo album, andre is so gay
"The Love Below" > "Speakerboxxx" anyday.
i know how Dre feels. i think we've all had our lil moments where we got sick of hip hop.
exactly
andre is an artist....artists can't be confined to one sound or style, if they do they become stale and a self parody. outkast may be done. but if we've learned anything from goodie mob and c-lo it's that the true artist of the group is never done.
^^True. I'm sure Dre and Big Boi will be friends till the day they die, but it's pretty apparent they have different interests and tastes. Hell I have people that I was tight as hell with 10 years ago that I can't really even associate with much these days. Not cuz I hate them but cuz we're just completely different then we used to be. I think thats what's going on with them...
As for that soundtrack it's the only Outkast album that I didn't buy. That Mighty O joint was predictable, and I just wasn't really feeling the speakeasy 30's feel on the songs I was hearing. And, in my opinion it was just a soundtrack, not a true Outkast album. I think they still owe at least one album to fulfill their contract, so maybe they'll come together and actually do a joint album. Not 2 solo discs, not watered down soundtracks, just a true Outkast album.
Either way, they have 3 classic discs that I can bump from front to back and love every bit of it, and they've got some truly incredible joints on Stankonia and Love Below / Speakerboxx. So of course I'd love one more true Outkast album, but if not I'm good.
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I said it before and I'll say it again. Outkast insulted their fans by giving us eack shit this year after dropping 10 years of heat. So the fans gave em the finger by not buying their shit OR watching their wack ass movie.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
when u reached the top, you wouldnt just stick around and sit there, u move onto new pastures
the love below album wasnt a fluke, its brilliant
and the big boi tracks on idlewild let it down, the ones andre was involved in are also brilliant
you all need to take games dick out of your ears
and u need to get ras kass dick outta ur mouth
i never heard a rass kass song in my life
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Outkast did not fall off...ANDRE fell off. Big Boi is still as good as he ever was. But Andre's become full of himself and is making shitty music. This whole excuse of "well, he's just gotten tired of hip-hop and wants to branch out" doesn't cut it; regardless of what Andre feels, the fact is that his music is wack. It may be unique, it may be creative...but it's not fucking listenable.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Andre doing his quasi-Prince antics shit would be like Prince fans having to put up with Prince suddenly deciding he wanted to be a gangsta rapper and doing songs about low-lows, blunts, and grillz.
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
when u reached the top, you wouldnt just stick around and sit there, u move onto new pastures
the love below album wasnt a fluke, its brilliant
and the big boi tracks on idlewild let it down, the ones andre was involved in are also brilliant
you all need to take games dick out of your ears
and u need to get ras kass dick outta ur mouth
i never heard a rass kass song in my life
Rass Kass is one of the best rappers on the west coast.
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Idlewild was just a movie soundtrack, and it contained many blues songs so i wasnt expecting to sell a lot. I still like Outkast, nobody like them in hip hop, and one of my favourite bands.
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Andre lost his desire for hip-hop after the Stankonia album; and his strength was as an emcee and not as a played out Lenny Kravitz. I think the success of their "Love Below" album was a fluke. They are done. But still, 4 great albums is better than any other hip-hop group has been able to achieve. Like they said on the track Aquemini; "Nothing last forever".
agreed. stankonia was their last decent album that they made...
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the album has been certified gold with shipping over 500,000 , but its sold in the region of 460,000
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Speakerboxxx was classic, love that album.
the love below was OK to listen to one track at a time every now and then but not the type of album i could stand listen to all the way through, ya smell me?
All Kast albums before that are classic. Idlewood was pathetic, bought it for $10 and i had to chuck it out the window of the whip in disgust.
they should cease now, lest their careers end in a slow whimper. Andre 3000 can continue to design clothes or whatever the fuck he does, but Big Boi should stay in tha game.
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
when u reached the top, you wouldnt just stick around and sit there, u move onto new pastures
the love below album wasnt a fluke, its brilliant
and the big boi tracks on idlewild let it down, the ones andre was involved in are also brilliant
you all need to take games dick out of your ears
and u need to get ras kass dick outta ur mouth
i never heard a rass kass song in my life
Rass Kass is one of the best rappers on the west coast.
ive heard of him, but that doesnt mean im gonna rush down to my local record shop and try and find something by him
because he wont be in a mainstream UK record shop
and ive got too much porn to download to download songs by him
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did u hear the walk it out remix, andre still got that shit man
when u reached the top, you wouldnt just stick around and sit there, u move onto new pastures
the love below album wasnt a fluke, its brilliant
and the big boi tracks on idlewild let it down, the ones andre was involved in are also brilliant
you all need to take games dick out of your ears
and u need to get ras kass dick outta ur mouth
i never heard a rass kass song in my life
Rass Kass is one of the best rappers on the west coast.
ive heard of him, but that doesnt mean im gonna rush down to my local record shop and try and find something by him
because he wont be in a mainstream UK record shop
and ive got too much porn to download to download songs by him
wow, ur a tough dude, get a life
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stop trippin, you know they still got it
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Andre is a damn genius. You'll figure it out after he's dead, like most great artists. Big Boi is the solid "regular" rapper that brings the balance from andre "out there" shit.
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I said it before and I'll say it again. Outkast insulted their fans by giving us eack shit this year after dropping 10 years of heat. So the fans gave em the finger by not buying their shit OR watching their wack ass movie.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
That's real.
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I said it before and I'll say it again. Outkast insulted their fans by giving us eack shit this year after dropping 10 years of heat. So the fans gave em the finger by not buying their shit OR watching their wack ass movie.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
That's real.
No its not real. Thats bullshit. We need more artists taking chances and doing different shit in rap music. If there was, most rap probably wouldnt be bullshit today. And what you mean they turned their back on the people who made em what they are? Their biggest selling record had the most outlandish material on it of all their albums.
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I said it before and I'll say it again. Outkast insulted their fans by giving us eack shit this year after dropping 10 years of heat. So the fans gave em the finger by not buying their shit OR watching their wack ass movie.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
That's real.
No its not real. Thats bullshit. We need more artists taking chances and doing different shit in rap music. If there was, most rap probably wouldnt be bullshit today. And what you mean they turned their back on the people who made em what they are? Their biggest selling record had the most outlandish material on it of all their albums.
The music can be as different as you want, but that doesn't make it good. Andre has no business singing period. His singing voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
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Big Boi needs a solo album
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I said it before and I'll say it again. Outkast insulted their fans by giving us eack shit this year after dropping 10 years of heat. So the fans gave em the finger by not buying their shit OR watching their wack ass movie.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
That's real.
No its not real. Thats bullshit. We need more artists taking chances and doing different shit in rap music. If there was, most rap probably wouldnt be bullshit today. And what you mean they turned their back on the people who made em what they are? Their biggest selling record had the most outlandish material on it of all their albums.
The music can be as different as you want, but that doesn't make it good. Andre has no business singing period. His singing voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
I never said just being different makes music good, I said if people took more chances like Outkast does, the music would definitely be better because everybody wouldnt just be copying each other. Originality might not be everything, but its definitely important. Just because juronimo from dubcc.com doesnt like something, doesnt make it bad music either.
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I was let down by their latest offering......change is good, unfortunately, it didn't work on Idlewild.
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i lost all hope on idlewild
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I agree with the most here.....andre 3000 needs to go back to straight rappin...none of this Hey Ya shit....Erykah Badu got to his ass alright...1st common now andre?????? Common is still tight though....butbig boi keeps it real...he just needs to stay away from andre's way of music....Hollywood Divorce is the jizzam though!!!!
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I said it before and I'll say it again. Outkast insulted their fans by giving us eack shit this year after dropping 10 years of heat. So the fans gave em the finger by not buying their shit OR watching their wack ass movie.
Don't flip the script on the people who made you what you are.
That's real.
No its not real. Thats bullshit. We need more artists taking chances and doing different shit in rap music. If there was, most rap probably wouldnt be bullshit today. And what you mean they turned their back on the people who made em what they are? Their biggest selling record had the most outlandish material on it of all their albums.
There's a difference between expanding on your music, maintaining its integrity in the process, and feeding your fans some bullshit. If you think Idlewild was a quality album, then you're insane.
Speakerboxxx/Love Below was a great album IMO, one of the best double albums ever. Yes, their music was outlandish on some of those tracks, but that's Outkast. They got an outlandish style of music. Even on SB/LB, they still had some quality to their tracks and you can tell they put their hearts into it. Idlewild didn't have that. It was obviously rushed, and their fanbase couldn't relate to it.
Why else would they go from achieving diamond last album to barely pushing gold this time around?
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Speakerboxxx/Love Below was a great album IMO, one of the best double albums ever. Yes, their music was outlandish on some of those tracks, but that's Outkast. They got an outlandish style of music. Even on SB/LB, they still had some quality to their tracks and you can tell they put their hearts into it. Idlewild didn't have that. It was obviously rushed, and their fanbase couldn't relate to it.
"Speakerboxx/Love Below" was just as awful as "Idlewild" for the exact same reason. I don't see how you can criticize one without criticizing the other. Well, OK, "Speakerboxx" was decent enough, I'll give you that, but "The Love Below" was awful, pure garbage. I said it back then, and I continue to say it today. The fact that that album did well was really a fluke, not to mention the result of some clever but entirely unwarranted hype and critical acclaim. Seriously, how many people you know that still listen to that bullshit today? I think one of these days, that entire record (but mostly "The Love Below") is gonna be recognized for what it was - the most overrated shit in hip-hop.
Also remember that Outkast only sold Diamond because it was a double-album; it sold 5 million copies, not 10 million.
I never said just being different makes music good, I said if people took more chances like Outkast does, the music would definitely be better because everybody wouldnt just be copying each other. Originality might not be everything, but its definitely important. Just because juronimo from dubcc.com doesnt like something, doesnt make it bad music either.
Homie, Outkast was ALREADY "different", Since the beginning of their career, they've been the most unique hip-hop group in the mainstream. And before "Speakerboxx/The Love Below" came out, every record they put out was dope, too.
Bottom line...it was bad fucking music, not cause it was unique, because it was un-fucking-listenable. I've heard some of the most unique shit ever that still sucked cause the artist performed it terribly, and I've heard stuff that was highly unoriginal but it still sounded dope.
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Love Below was an incredible album overall. The only track I really ever skip on there was that wack shit with Michelle Branch or whoever it was. Speakerboxx had its really good moments and really weak moments. Idlewild sucked ass. I mean it was fucking horrible.
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Also remember that Outkast only sold Diamond because it was a double-album; it sold 5 million copies, not 10 million.
I know. I left that small detail out because it made my argument sound stronger lol.
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Homie, Outkast was ALREADY "different", Since the beginning of their career, they've been the most unique hip-hop group in the mainstream. And before "Speakerboxx/The Love Below" came out, every record they put out was dope, too.
Bottom line...it was bad fucking music, not cause it was unique, because it was un-fucking-listenable. I've heard some of the most unique shit ever that still sucked cause the artist performed it terribly, and I've heard stuff that was highly unoriginal but it still sounded dope.
I aint even heard Idlewild. The man said they are alienating their fan base by making music thats different than what was expected. All I'm saying is thats what makes Outkast, and we need more artists willing to take chances and experiment. Everytime somebody tries something different, it wont always work, big deal. They'll be back next go round.
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I aint even heard Idlewild. The man said they are alienating their fan base by making music thats different than what was expected. All I'm saying is thats what makes Outkast, and we need more artists willing to take chances and experiment. Everytime somebody tries something different, it wont always work, big deal. They'll be back next go round.
When he said "different than what was expected", he meant different than what was expected of OUTKAST, not of music in general. What people expect with Outkast is good quality rapping, not lame-ass Prince-wannabe singing by Andre.
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I aint even heard Idlewild.
If yu haven't even heard Idlewild, then how could you even make an argument?