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Title: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: israelihiphop on December 08, 2006, 12:07:10 PM
http://www.mediatakeout.com/Exclusives/Jayz_Buy_Album.html

Jigga's best ever first week was like 550K, I knew there was something wrong with his numbers...
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: WILL-I-DIE on December 08, 2006, 12:11:43 PM
now that would be some funny shit if he did
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: $Eg2$ on December 08, 2006, 12:19:18 PM
of course he did most labels do especially def Jam
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Post by: Don Jacob on December 08, 2006, 03:13:47 PM
yes.
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: k1000 on December 08, 2006, 03:28:41 PM
of course he did most labels do especially def Jam
not surprising. they all do that
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Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on December 08, 2006, 04:54:18 PM
why not.
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Post by: ecrazy on December 08, 2006, 05:05:52 PM
Whats with this website?
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on December 08, 2006, 05:09:34 PM
Whats with this website?

fuck jay-z?   :o
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Sir Petey on December 08, 2006, 05:31:33 PM
he did the same thing when the dynasty came out because outkast stankonia was outsellin everybody then all the sudden roc la familia's numbers started going crazy but nobody was really buyin the albums there were crates of his dynasty album found in a jersey where house.


this is real talk not speculation....trust me
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Bones01 on December 08, 2006, 08:57:37 PM
wouldn't be supriseing. How can so many people like Jay-Z? Man is overated as fuck
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Post by: WestCoasta on December 08, 2006, 09:10:40 PM
Jay-Z's fuckin up, we all know what's goin on
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Post by: westkoastanostra on December 08, 2006, 11:59:59 PM
me thinks so
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: 7even on December 09, 2006, 12:35:35 AM
He flopped, hella promotion and he sold less than he baught, embarrassing.
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 09, 2006, 01:29:47 AM
Of course he did. Nobody is feeling Jay's wack ass album. The only people who bought it were the people who excuse his wackness as "grown up music".
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Citizen-Y on December 09, 2006, 07:25:09 AM
Of course he did. Nobody is feeling Jay's wack ass album. The only people who bought it were the people who excuse his wackness as "grown up music".

Respek +1
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Post by: MontrealCity's Most on December 09, 2006, 07:38:27 AM
Whats with this website?

i love this girl lol



 oh yeah and as for the jay-z thing, i  like jigga but i thought this album sucked so if he bought 200 000 copies then he got ripped pff
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Meho on December 09, 2006, 07:59:37 AM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....
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Post by: PLANT on December 09, 2006, 08:02:20 AM
he must be buying that shit becuase his new album is terrible
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Ðøšïå on December 09, 2006, 08:11:56 AM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....

meho id say we expect for him to put more time and effort into his albums and not just throw the shit together like he did. the album sucks and wont be talked about in 5 years.
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Post by: T-Dogg on December 09, 2006, 08:12:55 AM
Of course he did. Nobody is feeling Jay's wack ass album. The only people who bought it were the people who excuse his wackness as "grown up music".

Respek +1
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Chief on December 09, 2006, 08:41:16 AM
i wont out rule completely the fact he may have bought copies, coz fuck, i dont know... i didnt buy a copy, i thought it was a good album, but not good enough to go spend my hard earned $$$ on it.

all i know is jay-z had hella promotion, and has a solid fan base... so it's possible either way.
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 09, 2006, 09:13:44 AM
You don't sell 700k in the first week and then bomb out 81% to like 140k without something really suspect going on.  Shit just doesn't happen.  I think it's safe to say Jay def inflated his sales. 

So therefore I also say
fuck jay-z?   :o
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 09, 2006, 09:49:22 AM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....
You are in denial.
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on December 09, 2006, 01:09:51 PM
why are people suprised at this??? when numbers are dropping big time, jigga album hits a all time high.........reason why??? because he run def jam nigga, he only answer to one guy i think, the whole of jefjam answer to him.....he would like the weakest ceo if his shit didnt sell crazy, i told y'all before the album dropped that his numbers would be huge because his company would be buying all his shit, no nigga has big ass 80% 2nd week drops, 50-60 is expected now if y'all aint got a smash hit, but jigga just sold those numbers and we all know how...

but any rapper in his position would have done it....it is just crazy the nigga sold bigger 1st week numbers than justin timberlake with his joint that was killin radio everywhere, thats how u know his sales are jokes
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Post by: Miuzi on December 10, 2006, 08:25:04 AM
I think he has a large enough fanbase to sell that many the first week, but the single and promotion isn't getting any new fans so his sales go right down.

I bought it and think this album will be forgotten in about 2-3 months.
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Post by: You Ain't Shit on December 10, 2006, 09:00:12 AM
just blaze beats on that album are crazy, he wasted them on old jay-z.
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Post by: $Eg2$ on December 10, 2006, 11:30:20 AM
How many copies did Detox buy  ??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Samoan Enforcer on December 10, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
i wonder if he wear sunglasses and a trenchcoat when hes drivin around different stores pickin up copies
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Meho on December 10, 2006, 02:48:18 PM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....
You are in denial.

Whatever, this forum is too funny. For some artists expectations are so low that even if they release pure crap they'll love it but some artists have to make 5/5 albums every time they drop.
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: proverbs aka DD on December 10, 2006, 04:15:12 PM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....
You are in denial.

Whatever, this forum is too funny. For some artists expectations are so low that even if they release pure crap they'll love it but some artists have to make 5/5 albums every time they drop.


but you have to understand that the greats are always expected to be great. Hova is a legend and a great..  He is the god of his label and had the ability to conjure up all the talents to put out the best album ever.He has no reason to come from retirement to put out a medicore album.. I personally think its an ok album. However, when i read all these stories about how much he put into marketing, who actually produced/mixed the album, and how he acts too royal to talk about certain rappers/situations it makes me think this album is an underacheiver..

Jay-Z reminds me of the USA Basketball Team that gets a bronze medal with all that talent they got on their team.. kinda disappointing.


1. Even your best friend 50 cent commented on this album not doing as well as it should have.

2. I'm pretty sure you would be pissed if Dr Dre came out with an album with the same quality of Kingdom Come.
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Post by: 7even on December 10, 2006, 04:24:27 PM
^ I agree
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Post by: WestCoasta on December 10, 2006, 04:37:36 PM
the only good thing about the album were some of the beats, I liked "30 Something" okay

he's just talkin about nothing tho

lots of rappers talk about nothin but the fact that you'd expect him to say some shit and you get an annoying ass voice, it doesn't help


to answer Detox, why people are trashing him, it's because the so called Best Rapper shouldn't come out with somethin like this, let alone after he retired, he's not Too Short
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: THETRUTHUG on December 10, 2006, 04:40:56 PM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....

tru tru
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: virtuoso on December 10, 2006, 06:57:51 PM

My main gripe with the album, is that it seems like no effort has been put in at all he sounds like he is breezing through the tracks, he doesnt sound hungry, the lyrics are less than inspiring apart from beacj chair and worst of all what should was shaping up to be potentially new ground in minority report turns into a major anti climax. That track could have been so powerful and yet when you listen to the lyrics he isn't saying anything, this has been called "grown man music" I would suggest it's just downright boring on the whole. So if he did buy his own albums, an accusation which he has faced before, then it's no surprise as far as I concerned, as most people are going to feel really let down by this album. I am not someone who dislikes Jay-z. i have all of his albums besides the black album but would not add this one to the collection, even if i could pick this up at bargain basement prices.
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Post by: Chief on December 10, 2006, 09:44:40 PM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....
You are in denial.

Whatever, this forum is too funny. For some artists expectations are so low that even if they release pure crap they'll love it but some artists have to make 5/5 albums every time they drop.


but you have to understand that the greats are always expected to be great. Hova is a legend and a great..  He is the god of his label and had the ability to conjure up all the talents to put out the best album ever.He has no reason to come from retirement to put out a medicore album.. I personally think its an ok album. However, when i read all these stories about how much he put into marketing, who actually produced/mixed the album, and how he acts too royal to talk about certain rappers/situations it makes me think this album is an underacheiver..

Jay-Z reminds me of the USA Basketball Team that gets a bronze medal with all that talent they got on their team.. kinda disappointing.


1. Even your best friend 50 cent commented on this album not doing as well as it should have.

2. I'm pretty sure you would be pissed if Dr Dre came out with an album with the same quality of Kingdom Come.

you cant compare detox to anything jay-z releases. jigga releases an album every year, detox once every 7.
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 10, 2006, 10:02:12 PM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....
You are in denial.

Whatever, this forum is too funny. For some artists expectations are so low that even if they release pure crap they'll love it but some artists have to make 5/5 albums every time they drop.
So now you're making excuses for him. You know and I know that he didn't put his heart into the record. It's mediocre. He pulled an Eminem: put out a weak album because anything with his name on it will at least push double platinum.
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Post by: Digital Pimpin' on December 11, 2006, 02:22:38 AM
Fuck, there were some good beats on this album, well 3 actually: Show Me What You Got, 30 Something, & Trouble but the lyrics were above average at best.

No wonder his 2nd week sales were so low; people actually heard the album and realised Jigga can do better.
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Post by: Meho on December 11, 2006, 03:08:33 AM
Guys, my main problem was when some people called it "pure wack shit". I agree that Jay didnt sound as hungry as he did on Black Album but the album is still one of the best to come out this year. At least he had no filler tracks, other than that Beyonce joint.

And the replav value of this album is better than most LPs out these days. I bumped him, Game and Snoop for the past few weeks, Jays is the only one that still sounds fresh.

Once again my main problem was with calling it wack shit. I understand if you dont like the album and expected better. D4L is wack shit. This aint.
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Post by: Lil Jay on December 11, 2006, 03:33:24 AM
ROFL at some of these comments. I see Kingdom Come is gonna get "Massacred".

So these days track like "Oh My God, Kngdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride, 30 Somethin, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report and Beach Chair" are considered wack ? Ha ha, thats just too funny. Laffy Taffy is wack this is not.

I mean what did you expect a Resonable Doubt or Illmatic.

I'd even say "ok, its not their type of music" but you guys listen to DPG, Snoop, Game, Nas, Lil Wayne, Dipset....


Agreed. The album is dope, people need to quit hatin.
Title: Re: Did Jay-z buy his own albums to boost record sales?
Post by: red on December 11, 2006, 03:51:55 PM
Guys, my main problem was when some people called it "pure wack shit". I agree that Jay didnt sound as hungry as he did on Black Album but the album is still one of the best to come out this year. At least he had no filler tracks, other than that Beyonce joint.

And the replav value of this album is better than most LPs out these days. I bumped him, Game and Snoop for the past few weeks, Jays is the only one that still sounds fresh.

Once again my main problem was with calling it wack shit. I understand if you dont like the album and expected better. D4L is wack shit. This aint.
I will in no way, shape, or form call Kingdom Come pure wack shit but it's something definately missing with this album.  I can listen to it straight throught without skipping any tracks except the Usher & Beyonce joints but I don't find myself reaching for THIS album like I would his others (except The Black Album).  The repeat value is "PURE WACK SHIT" unlike Game's DA, which gets me going in the morning, noon, & night.  Lyric for lyric, Jay probably does shit on Game but as Jay has said in the past niggas lack the charisma.  On this CD, Jay happens to be that nigga.
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Post by: proverbs aka DD on December 11, 2006, 05:07:17 PM
plain and simple, this is not an album worth coming out of retirement to make.

this would be a great Kurupt album... but for Jay-Z, the self-acclaimed "Hova".. this isn't as great. Like i said before, great people are expected to do great things..