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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TobyTizzle on December 23, 2006, 07:20:47 PM
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http://www.operationfromthebottom.com/
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damn crazy! the teaser is tight man
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fi!nally 'This Was Then' feat Snoop & Kurupt in cdq...that would be awsome
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dope
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(http://www.oneoone.org/oftb_disc.jpg)
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about time this will be amazing
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this might be a dumb question but who are OFTB ?
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this might be a dumb question but who are OFTB ?
Operation From The Bottom. They are a group from Watts (believe they are bloods) consisting of Bustop, Flipside, and LowMB. They dropped a cd in '92 called "straight up watts", then Suge signed them to Death Row around '94. They appeared on various DR comps (MWTC, Above the Rim, Gridlock'd, Gang Related, X-Mas on Death Row), and were slated to drop an album on DR, but once again, the drama with Pac being murdered and Suge going to jail messed up that opportunity. Thye left in 98-99 and dropped a compilation. Other than that, the only time people heard from them was an MTV special in '99 where they were dissing Suge. Supposedly they lived up to the name of the label they dropped the compilation on: Flat Broke.
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Dope Ass Fuck.
They Had Own Record Label FLATBROKE ENTERTAINMEN they released "Return Of The West" I Had 2 Joints From The Album.Pretty Cool.
I Heard One Of Them Works At Micky D´s.
CANT WAIT TO HEAR DAT CHIT.
"got some watts ni++az wit me,O.F.T.B"
makaveli the don
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Is it on IRC yet? I can't find it.
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good news ...
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I used to have a song with Tupac it was called time after time. After this preview im def gona get tihs... damn the 90s had good hip hop compared to now.
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Album Sounds Crazy!!!
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I used to have a song with Tupac it was called time after time. After this preview im def gona get tihs... damn the 90s had good hip hop compared to now.
I think that song is going to be on this release
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Suge Knight is a fucking fool.. Why he didnt release an album like that...
to woof ... where did you get this cd??
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Suge Knight is a fucking fool.. Why he didnt release an album like that...
Suge was always hands on with his releases, and being thrown in jail makes it hard to run the day-to-day operations
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So many years talking about the death row vault locked and in last months we have the hammer death row alvum avaliable,tha realest 130 songs from death row era,and now OFTB putting their death row album out...what's happening????
Hope the vault will be open,and we could hear more frome death row vault.
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^^ u forgot Top Dogg Tha YGD
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top dogg was leaked too???
I lost that one!! link,please??
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top dogg was leaked too???
I lost that one!! link,please??
not so much his albums as it is a collection of tracks that were released on comps and tracks leaked to the internet
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cant wait for that shit..i love their songs from the deathrow compilations (Above the Rim, Gridlock'd, christmas on deathrow etc)
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Anyway,if Suge owns all the masters,why at this time some of that songs are being released???
I will very excited if we could have the chance to hear stuff from death row vault like danny boy cd,second dogg pound cd,croooked I,etc...
Do you guys think there's any chance to see that in the future???
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Great news! Teaser is dope as fuck! Keepin an eye out 4 this!
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Anyway,if Suge owns all the masters,why at this time some of that songs are being released???
I will very excited if we could have the chance to hear stuff from death row vault like danny boy cd,second dogg pound cd,croooked I,etc...
Do you guys think there's any chance to see that in the future???
The music industry is weird like that. An album cannot be released unless it's progressing an artists image. Exactly why no Dre stuff could be released after he left. Also, no artist can release the music co-published by a former record company without their permission. After Suge went bankrupt and the company was seized, the bank doesn't care what happens to Death Row, so they are giving all the artists the go ahead to release their old stuff.
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The music industry is weird like that. An album cannot be released unless it's progressing an artists image. Exactly why no Dre stuff could be released after he left. Also, no artist can release the music co-published by a former record company without their permission. After Suge went bankrupt and the company was seized, the bank doesn't care what happens to Death Row, so they are giving all the artists the go ahead to release their old stuff.
Dre's Death Row material couldn’t be released because his artist contract with Death Row stated explicitly that he was only signed on for one album. Also that the contents of the album, or any material recorded for it, couldn’t be distributed in any manner not explicitly stated in the original contract (without Dre's approval). In addition to the specifics of Dre's contract with Death Row, record producers in general must authorize the release of a record they produced. The publishing rights wouldn’t prevent a record from being released though, only ownership of the material. If Dre owned all his material but Suge owned all the publishing Dre could still release it. The only difference is when it's played on radio Suge gets the money instead of Dre.
Anyone who owns the [copyright on the] material can release it regardless of whether it hurts the artist’s image or not. There is no law about releases needing to show the artist in a positive light lol
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So many years talking about the death row vault locked and in last months we have the hammer death row alvum avaliable,tha realest 130 songs from death row era,and now OFTB putting their death row album out...what's happening????
Hope the vault will be open,and we could hear more frome death row vault.
There's also that Outlawz Retribution album that has some old songs from 96/97...
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yeah i heard suge gave certain people like the outlawz the ok to release their shit
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this might be a dumb question but who are OFTB ?
Operation From The Bottom. They are a group from Watts (believe they are bloods) consisting of Bustop, Flipside, and LowMB. They dropped a cd in '92 called "straight up watts", then Suge signed them to Death Row around '94. They appeared on various DR comps (MWTC, Above the Rim, Gridlock'd, Gang Related, X-Mas on Death Row), and were slated to drop an album on DR, but once again, the drama with Pac being murdered and Suge going to jail messed up that opportunity. Thye left in 98-99 and dropped a compilation. Other than that, the only time people heard from them was an MTV special in '99 where they were dissing Suge. Supposedly they lived up to the name of the label they dropped the compilation on: Flat Broke.
props for the info, i may check this out.
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sounds crazy, lookin foprward to that.
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Has this got anything to do with the Boy Nino Brown? Looks like he designed the website....
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Has this got anything to do with the Boy Nino Brown? Looks like he designed the website....
nah nino is the one who made the sites for danny boy, crooked i, skg etc
oneoone is doing all the deathrow sites, blackwallstreet, spiderloc etc
there will be an interview with him on mrmakaveli.net very soon
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Here's the tracklist, got it from their myspace (http://www.myspace.com/operationfromthebottom)
1. Intro (0:57)
2. Better Dayz (96' Original) (Feat. 2pac, Big Syke) (4:41)
3. That Was Then, This Is Now (Feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg, Kurupt) (4:29)
4. I Come Up Hard (Feat. Garry Barnner)(4:24)
5. World Wide (Feat. 2pac, Kadafi, Kurupt)(5:15)
6. Check Ur Hood (Feat. Jewell)(4:59)
7. I Trust Nobody (3:57)
8. Still A Mystery To Me (96' 2pac Tribute) (Feat. Kadafi, Napoleon, Edi, Storm, Kurupt) (4:29)
9. Project Kids (Feat. Nixon Garden Project Kids) (5:27)
10. I'm On One (5:59)
11. Ladies Night (Feat. 6 Feet Deep) (5:00)
12. Doin' It At The Spot (Feat. Big Pimpin') (4:29)
13. Lost Souls (3:22)
14. Sooner or Later (5:04)
15. So Long (Feat. M.C. Hammer) (5:48)
anyone know if its leaked yet? the website is up btw, http://www.operationfromthebottom.com/
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When is this available to buy ?
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yes get it now from there website, 1st 1000 get a tshirt and cd.
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anyone received it?
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41$ for international buyers??? This shit is crazy!!
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41$ for international buyers??? This shit is crazy!!
Hell yeah! I looked at gettin it, but $41! Too much at the mo!
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anyone received it?
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21quid aint a bad price, paid 32 for death row greatist hits when it came out and 23 for all eyez on me, southwest riders was 30 odd aswell. plus u get a t shirt and dvd.
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Is it on IRC yet? I can't find it.
You all should really go out and buy this. One of my homies is friends with OneOOne, the dude who is helping put this out. There will be MANY more releases like this in the year 2007 and it all depends on how this one sells to see if there will be future releases. $35 shipped for an unreleased Death Row album, a DVD documentary and a t-shirt is really not that bad. So if you got the change to drop on this album then please do it so we can have future releases like this one.
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Is it on IRC yet? I can't find it.
You all should really go out and buy this. One of my homies is friends with OneOOne, the dude who is helping put this out. There will be MANY more releases like this in the year 2007 and it all depends on how this one sells to see if there will be future releases. $35 shipped for an unreleased Death Row album, a DVD documentary and a t-shirt is really not that bad. So if you got the change to drop on this album then please do it so we can have future releases like this one.
Thats true man
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Can't wait to hear this, they have some CLASSICS 8)
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Is it on IRC yet? I can't find it.
You all should really go out and buy this. One of my homies is friends with OneOOne, the dude who is helping put this out. There will be MANY more releases like this in the year 2007 and it all depends on how this one sells to see if there will be future releases. $35 shipped for an unreleased Death Row album, a DVD documentary and a t-shirt is really not that bad. So if you got the change to drop on this album then please do it so we can have future releases like this one.
ok, well let me just say this:
I really don't give one damn about a t shirt and a dvd. rap dvd's are pretty much worthless and I would never wear an OFTB shirt. In the future, why don't you lose the shirt and dvd and sell the cd for like $12. I'm sure u would end up selling more copies, because I know most people are like me and don't give a damn about the shirt or dvd and sure as hell are not going to spend $35 on a cd.
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Is it on IRC yet? I can't find it.
You all should really go out and buy this. One of my homies is friends with OneOOne, the dude who is helping put this out. There will be MANY more releases like this in the year 2007 and it all depends on how this one sells to see if there will be future releases. $35 shipped for an unreleased Death Row album, a DVD documentary and a t-shirt is really not that bad. So if you got the change to drop on this album then please do it so we can have future releases like this one.
ok, well let me just say this:
I really don't give one damn about a t shirt and a dvd. rap dvd's are pretty much worthless and I would never wear an OFTB shirt. In the future, why don't you lose the shirt and dvd and sell the cd for like $12. I'm sure u would end up selling more copies, because I know most people are like me and don't give a damn about the shirt or dvd and sure as hell are not going to spend $35 on a cd.
I would pay more than $35 for just the cd. Before this release was announced 2Pac collectors would've been paying upwards of $500 just for one of those two 2Pac tracks on there. And like I said before, this release will help fund future releases from other former Death Row artists. You gotta take into account that this album is not an average release. To get to hear what they got in the vaults (which is what a lot of us have been waiting YEARS and YEARS for) we're going to have to pay a little more. I see where you're coming from but it doesn't bug me or a lot of the other fans to pay that much. In fact to a lot of people this is a steal.
I know some people are not in the position financially to get this so their only option will be to download the album. If you can't afford it then that's fine. All I'm saying is that if you CAN afford it I think you should buy instead of download it. Also you are not paying money for the t-shirt or DVD, those are simply bonuses. After the first 1000 orders the album will be sold at the same price without those 2 bonuses.
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Is it on IRC yet? I can't find it.
You all should really go out and buy this. One of my homies is friends with OneOOne, the dude who is helping put this out. There will be MANY more releases like this in the year 2007 and it all depends on how this one sells to see if there will be future releases. $35 shipped for an unreleased Death Row album, a DVD documentary and a t-shirt is really not that bad. So if you got the change to drop on this album then please do it so we can have future releases like this one.
ok, well let me just say this:
I really don't give one damn about a t shirt and a dvd. rap dvd's are pretty much worthless and I would never wear an OFTB shirt. In the future, why don't you lose the shirt and dvd and sell the cd for like $12. I'm sure u would end up selling more copies, because I know most people are like me and don't give a damn about the shirt or dvd and sure as hell are not going to spend $35 on a cd.
I would pay more than $35 for just the cd. Before this release was announced 2Pac collectors would've been paying upwards of $500 just for one of those two 2Pac tracks on there. And like I said before, this release will help fund future releases from other former Death Row artists. You gotta take into account that this album is not an average release. To get to hear what they got in the vaults (which is what a lot of us have been waiting YEARS and YEARS for) we're going to have to pay a little more. I see where you're coming from but it doesn't bug me or a lot of the other fans to pay that much. In fact to a lot of people this is a steal.
I know some people are not in the position financially to get this so their only option will be to download the album. If you can't afford it then that's fine. All I'm saying is that if you CAN afford it I think you should buy instead of download it. Also you are not paying money for the t-shirt or DVD, those are simply bonuses. After the first 1000 orders the album will be sold at the same price without those 2 bonuses.
Dude, you act like this album is some sort of rare substance only found in the Amazon rain forest. First off the music has already been recorded, the work has been done. So to the people who just leave it sitting in the vaults and never release it, well that is their problem. Its not like they will make ANY money at all if it just sits in the vaults. The music has been recorded, that is the most of the work, so to let it just go to waste and never release it, well that is just very dumb. So don't act like these music releases in the Death Row vaults should be more expensive than a regular cd. Hell, Game's lastest album and Snoop's latest album cost millions of dollars more to make than this album did, and you don't see them being sold for $35. The people selling this album for $35 are just being greedy and taking advantage of people who don't know any better and/or are just desparate. I can certainly afford to spend $35, but I won't on principle alone. That is a ripoff for a cd, bottom line. I will just download it for free. Now if it were up for sale at a reasonable price, then yeah I might buy it, but I won't feed the fire of the greedy people who are releasing this. Seriously, how many people even know who OFTB is? Selling the cd at $35 is certainly not going to help build their fanbase.
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I would like to have this album,but 41$...that's crazy.I would love to hear the death row vault,but how many copies would oftb will sold for an unreleased album from 10 years ago if you are not a death row mad-fan??
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At that price, they are ensuring to keep sales at a minimum. As has been stated, dvd's come with cd's all the time, and acting as if its a special for the first 1000 ppl is silly, this cd wont sell more than that. Look at the OVERWHELMING response ::) here on a westcoast forum, how many other buyers will there be?
We ALL want more death row shit, but put it out for a reasonable price, and you will sell a reasonable amount. Also, having no release date etc. wont help get you fans, the spelling mistakes on the site dont help either :-*
I want to get this cd, but I'm saving for a house, so spending $41US on a cd is not gonna cut it...
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i agree with tboy
fuck 40 $, ill download it
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I see some good points in this thread and I gotta admit I have mixed feelings about "supporting" this too but I'm still gonna get it, hell I'm probably gonna end up paying around $50 for this cause overseas orders are more expensive :(
But I can certainly understand why some people are not willing to pay that amount of money for this (I'll get back at ya when I have it ;) 8)), even if it concerns unreleased music from the D.R. vaults...
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this album is out you know where?I wanna be sure of what i'm buying
the trailer is good to me but i can't really judge on 20 sec samples
40$ is a bit strong but considering there is a dvd+a t-shirt+that this is unreleased it looks ok to me
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I would pay more than $35 for just the cd. Before this release was announced 2Pac collectors would've been paying upwards of $500 just for one of those two 2Pac tracks on there. And like I said before, this release will help fund future releases from other former Death Row artists. You gotta take into account that this album is not an average release. To get to hear what they got in the vaults (which is what a lot of us have been waiting YEARS and YEARS for) we're going to have to pay a little more. I see where you're coming from but it doesn't bug me or a lot of the other fans to pay that much. In fact to a lot of people this is a steal.
I know some people are not in the position financially to get this so their only option will be to download the album. If you can't afford it then that's fine. All I'm saying is that if you CAN afford it I think you should buy instead of download it. Also you are not paying money for the t-shirt or DVD, those are simply bonuses. After the first 1000 orders the album will be sold at the same price without those 2 bonuses.
And 2pac collectors are some of the stupidest people on the net. I hear what you’re saying but the truth of this album is who ever this OneOone person (probably alias) is they are just doing what other unnamed net fiends do which is perpetrate a front about designing websites or some other low level association with artist then suggest a "mixtape" or "unreleased album" or whatever just so they can get the unheard material themselves. This guys probably been doing that for years but has now recently come to the realization that:
1) The value of any unreleased music from Death Row during the 90's has peaked and is starting to loose value quickly because people don’t care anymore and also because the music is so dated.
2) The years squandered begging and tactfully weaseling unreleased music out of artists is fine and good when you're 19 but when you're 25 and need money selling the precious collected unreleased music seems like a no brainier.
It’s why so many of these old Death Row albums are coming out. It's because the collectors that have them or even the artist themselves realize the value is dropping so fast, so dramatically that they might as well capitalize on it now while they still can.
The bottom line is a lot of people probably would have paid hundreds of dollars for this back in 98 or 99 but in 2007 this isn’t worth more that 14.99 (if that).
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It’s why so many of these old Death Row albums are coming out. It's because the collectors that have them or even the artist themselves realize the value is dropping so fast, so dramatically that they might as well capitalize on it now while they still can.
what other death row albums are gonna be released? got any info..thanks.
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It’s why so many of these old Death Row albums are coming out. It's because the collectors that have them or even the artist themselves realize the value is dropping so fast, so dramatically that they might as well capitalize on it now while they still can.
what other death row albums are gonna be released? got any info..thanks.
Let's just say you won't be disapppointed mike. For the people who aren't feeling this release, I have a feeling that you will be wanting to hear at least one of the other albums to come out this year.
@ACGrundy - Your point about it being their fault for letting the music sit in the vault and not releasing it has no weight because Death Row are the ones who didn't release it, not OFTB. It was essentially out of their hands. Them selling their album right now is illegal because Death Row has the rights to it, not them. They just figure Death Row won't care or want to take the time to sue over something like this.
You all have good points for those who don't like the price and I agree with them. However, I personally don't find it unreasonable to pay that much. The main reason I don't have a problem paying that much is not because this release is so special, but because it will lead to future releases. To each his own!
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No offence to DJ Coma, but talking up these other releases is nothing until it comes from the horses mouth with proof.
I will not buy this album for an overprices price, because there is a chance some other albums will drop. If this oneoone guy (miles or nate whichever one lived in ATL) let us know more releases would come out if you support this cd, like a new DB album or new Sam Sneed etc. then I'm sure people would be more willing...
u know what I mean?
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so about the other unreleased DR stuff coming out soon, who is gonna release them? are they all gonna be independent releases like this OFTB one?
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track list?
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man dont be lazy its already posted in this thread...
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1) The value of any unreleased music from Death Row during the 90's has peaked and is starting to loose value quickly because people don’t care anymore and also because the music is so dated.
The bottom line is a lot of people probably would have paid hundreds of dollars for this back in 98 or 99 but in 2007 this isn’t worth more that 14.99 (if that).
I disagree with that. The shittier music hip-hop produces, the more people are going to be fiending for this classic DR era shit. However, like you said, no reasonable person is going to pay $35-40 for a cd, especially when you have places like Best Buy or Circuit City selling cd's for $10 and the ability to get second hand (used) cd's from half, ebay, or amazon for even less. Granted, I really want to hear these unreleased Golden Age DR era albums, but paying over $20 (the most I'd pay for a cd of this nature because of how rare it is would be $20) for a cd is stretching it
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No offence to DJ Coma, but talking up these other releases is nothing until it comes from the horses mouth with proof.
I will not buy this album for an overprices price, because there is a chance some other albums will drop. If this oneoone guy (miles or nate whichever one lived in ATL) let us know more releases would come out if you support this cd, like a new DB album or new Sam Sneed etc. then I'm sure people would be more willing...
u know what I mean?
I hear ya. I'm not in the position to say what the other stuff is. I think enough die hard 2pac fans will buy this album to make further releases happen so if you're just going to download it then that's on you. I just hope that future releases that might make you take more interest you will support, that's all. And by the way the money is going straight to the artist on these projects, it's not like OneOOne is a bootlegger making mad dough off of this.
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so who did the beats on this material? any g-funk on there? ;D
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^^ the neptunes :)*löl*
ALBUM IS STR8 BANGIN
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man, yall a bunch of cheap, azz m.f.'s!! how much shit do you have on your comp that you didnt pay for? how is $35 for some unreleased DR shit too much. is there nothing but a bunch of kids on this board who still live with (and recieve allowance from)their mommies? i have a successful career and make more than enough money to buy this album w/o thinking twice(which i already have btw, ill give yall a review in a month when it drops.) you guys are sad because if you really look at it from an artists stand-point, how many songs can you make for $35, not to mention a whole album. and the fact that it contains some OG Pac shit is well worth the asking price. look at it as paying $35 for all the stolen tracks you have on your hard-disk, or have you not gotten to that chapter in your 8th grade economics books yet?
P.S. ive dropped a lot of shit on this board for the simple fact that I know Pac wanted his music heard by any means necessary, but you guys and people like some of you are gonna be the reason this music shit stops. record companies are gonna stop taking "hits"(loss of monetary value for the greater good) if you guys dont start paying up some time.
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There is no record company losing money here. If this album was released correctly, I'm sure everyone involved in this thread would already own it. Since its coming out basically 10 years late, people can be a bit cautious. Also, every album is "unreleased" before it comes out, so now we know its coming out it does not make that word very special.
With what happened with Makaveli & Dillinger I wouldn't be surprised if the Pac tracks are yanked off before the release date. If people are recieving their copies fine, perhaps things change.
But seriously, you sound like a moron talking up yourself because you spend $35 on a cd. Congratulations, but some of us have more important things to spend money on. Not being able to afford it does not equate to not having money, just more important things to spend it on.
You have basically exposed yourself as a groupie by saying just because it contains 2 Pac songs its well worth $35. You might have the money to throw out on two songs, but other people don't necessarily. I'd order 3 of these cds for me and some friends and they could pay me back if it were $12 each. So OFTB woulda made $36, but instead I doubt they will get $30.
And why are you saying we are gonna ruin the music industry? Because we won't support a 10 year old bootleg? Man, get a grip. Have you asked every individual in this thread how many real purchases we have made? How do you know how many cds/records we own. You don't, so quit with the hero talk please.
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With what happened with Makaveli & Dillinger I wouldn't be surprised if the Pac tracks are yanked off before the release date. If people are recieving their copies fine, perhaps things change.
Yeah exactly, or they're taggs all over the songs. I mean we don’t even know where this music is coming from in terms of inherent audio quality. Did OFTB find a cassette of a bunch of songs they did at Death Row and that’s what we're getting? Or if they are from the studio, are they just the rough studio mixes from 96 burned to a CD so the group members could listen? I doubt they have the master reels for these songs in which case these tracks aren’t professionally mixed. And if that's the case I doubt they'll be mastered either. And for $40 bucks I'm going to be very unhappy with mediocre sounding audio quality even if Jesus himself is on a track.
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Well I'm hoping it's in good quality, the sampler on their site sounded pretty good though...
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With what happened with Makaveli & Dillinger I wouldn't be surprised if the Pac tracks are yanked off before the release date. If people are recieving their copies fine, perhaps things change.
Yeah exactly, or they're taggs all over the songs. I mean we don’t even know where this music is coming from in terms of inherent audio quality. Did OFTB find a cassette of a bunch of songs they did at Death Row and that’s what we're getting? Or if they are from the studio, are they just the rough studio mixes from 96 burned to a CD so the group members could listen? I doubt they have the master reels for these songs in which case these tracks aren’t professionally mixed. And if that's the case I doubt they'll be mastered either. And for $40 bucks I'm going to be very unhappy with mediocre sounding audio quality even if Jesus himself is on a track.
100% CD Quality. All tracks are final mixes. It's straight from the DATs and there will be NO tags on any of the songs. So you can be indifferent on the price all you want but when it comes to the actual CD it's all there in it's original form without tags. When they left Death Row, they like many others, they took the masters or made copies of the masters.
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Well it's great to hear that... thanks Coma.
Just wish they released a big box set of albums at once, I'd cop that...
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Just tried to check out the forums on mrmakaveli.net or whatever the page is called, got to it through www.thavaults.com and I can't join the forum, anyone know why they are not accepting more ppl? As there seems to be a bit of talk there about more albums coming out...
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The people on there don't know what other albums will be released. Those are decent forums for people who still take an interest in Death Row and they are especially good for 2Pac fans. I never was huge on Pac but I learned a ton on that forum. But Toby, you will know when the next album(s) are coming, it will have its own site just like the OFTB one and I'll make a thread on here or something to let everybody know what's up.
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If OFTB has had master copies of their Death Row album since they left in 98-99, why decide now to leak it? You figure they could sell more copies if they sold that shit publically around the time that Flatbroke Ent. flopped. I could care less about a t-shirt (I'm not the one to rock t's of my favorite artists) and generally most rap DVD's that come with cd's suck, just the music, which judging from that sampler is fuckin' hot.
Thinking about some other albums from that label that might leak, a couple names come to mind where I'd probably put down that money for a cd.
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They were probably too scared to release because of legal reasons. What they are doing right now is illegal because Death Row owns those songs, not them. They are seeing that others are selling their old Death Row material and not getting action taken against them so they probably feel it's ok now.
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If OFTB has had master copies of their Death Row album since they left in 98-99, why decide now to leak it?
that's a good question
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They were probably too scared to release because of legal reasons. What they are doing right now is illegal because Death Row owns those songs, not them. They are seeing that others are selling their old Death Row material and not getting action taken against them so they probably feel it's ok now.
Who are the "others"? Hammer's DR cd wasn't sold by Hammer and that shit from Top Dogg was nothing more than a compilation of tracks that were released mixed in with a couple unreleased tracks.
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If you look on 2pac "all eyez on me" booklet,upcoming death row releases were supposed to be...(we are talking 1996)
death row compilation (maybe christmas on death row??)
danny boy (unreleased)
sam sneed (unreleased)
nate dogg (released on death row in canada for a few days,and independent by nate himself on g funk classics)
The lady of rage (released in 97)
Michel'le (released in 98)
Snoop "Tha doggfather" (released 96)
dr dre chronic II (unreleased)
2pac makaveli records compilation (maybe unreleased,don't think this compilation is the 7th day theory)
What i am trying to say??? Oftb album,even if they were signed to death row,were not in the works. Even,they weren't promoted as featuring artist not in 2pac album,not in doggfather album...they only have a song in the soundtracks,so this "DR missing files" I don't see as an death row album,maybe as a compialtion of songs that Oftb were recording in the time they were signed.
So 41$ for a compilation...I would pay 41$ for a death row album like danny boy (was waiting for that record),maybe for dr dre album,maybe for sam sneed,and maybe for crooked I "say hi to the bad guy",or mayve "untochable". And even,ten years after that music was made,41$ would be too much for me.
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If you look on 2pac "all eyez on me" booklet,upcoming death row releases were supposed to be...(we are talking 1996)
death row compilation (maybe christmas on death row??)
danny boy (unreleased)
sam sneed (unreleased)
nate dogg (released on death row in canada for a few days,and independent by nate himself on g funk classics)
The lady of rage (released in 97)
Michel'le (released in 98)
Snoop "Tha doggfather" (released 96)
dr dre chronic II (unreleased)
2pac makaveli records compilation (maybe unreleased,don't think this compilation is the 7th day theory)
What i am trying to say??? Oftb album,even if they were signed to death row,were not in the works. Even,they weren't promoted as featuring artist not in 2pac album,not in doggfather album...they only have a song in the soundtracks,so this "DR missing files" I don't see as an death row album,maybe as a compialtion of songs that Oftb were recording in the time they were signed.
So 41$ for a compilation...I would pay 41$ for a death row album like danny boy (was waiting for that record),maybe for dr dre album,maybe for sam sneed,and maybe for crooked I "say hi to the bad guy",or mayve "untochable". And even,ten years after that music was made,41$ would be too much for me.
I'd have to dig out the booklet, but for Death Row's Greatest Hits, I believe it has an OFTB album in there listed as coming soon.
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you fuckin people are crazy! this is like the holy grail that leads to more and more fuck todays rap! this is that classic take me back type shit! pay or not i grabbed the first day and i dont give a fuck if you cheap leechin fucks dont pay i paid because its worth it. 41$ 2 much money? jesus get a real job its small change. have you heard the sampler? omg its that old dr shit playaz!
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lmao! how fuckin dumb are some of you guys? Its not that I can't afford it, hell I can buy a cd for $5gz if I wanted to, but it would just be flat out dumb. The median price of cd's is not in the $30-$40 price range, its in the $10-$15, so paying more than that is just stupid.
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who sets the prices? i wasnt aware of the influx of 93-99 classic death row shit was on the shelf at best buy. I better go grab it now while its 9.99. I mean come on ive been around since 94 . Id rather pay 41 for this then 9.99 for bubble gum hiphop. i couldnt tell you what the last cd i bought that was even close to being worth it. but this shit is the real deal. christ i actually own dats not cd fuckin rips but actual dats from the studio so its not a matter of money with me either. when this stuff sees the light of day its a rare and good feeling to see, as i said before ive been here since 94 and tha last few years this shit is leakin more and more and i cant get enough its like crack for crackheads lol i cant get enough and 41 is not to much to pay. sure i could just wait till it hits the net and get a rip but ill support to see what comes next. if they screw me and the rest of us over they are done i wont grab another thing from them and i have paid 5 gz for shit and ill be done with them.
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anyone got this yet??
Reason this shit is starting to sirface is Death Row & Suge Knight are both Bankrupt..and assests are being sold..they probably bought there album back for pennies...Now the Death Row Above The Law album needs to drop!!!
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who sets the prices? i wasnt aware of the influx of 93-99 classic death row shit was on the shelf at best buy. I better go grab it now while its 9.99. I mean come on ive been around since 94 . Id rather pay 41 for this then 9.99 for bubble gum hiphop. i couldnt tell you what the last cd i bought that was even close to being worth it. but this shit is the real deal. christ i actually own dats not cd fuckin rips but actual dats from the studio so its not a matter of money with me either. when this stuff sees the light of day its a rare and good feeling to see, as i said before ive been here since 94 and tha last few years this shit is leakin more and more and i cant get enough its like crack for crackheads lol i cant get enough and 41 is not to much to pay. sure i could just wait till it hits the net and get a rip but ill support to see what comes next. if they screw me and the rest of us over they are done i wont grab another thing from them and i have paid 5 gz for shit and ill be done with them.
You would buy a CD for five thousand dollars yet you're calling everyone else stupid? Dude seriously there are more important things in life.
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I don't think this is a problem of money. Most of us can afford to buy something for 41$,but for sure,If I only have heard samples,I need to listen the whole album to know if it's worth the price.If it's a classic,maybe I don't care to buy the original,even if it's 41$.
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i can afford it. do i want to spend 41? no. if they sold me the CD itself for 15 bucks it's a done deal. fuck the dvd and shirt
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anyone got this yet??
Reason this shit is starting to sirface is Death Row & Suge Knight are both Bankrupt..and assests are being sold..they probably bought there album back for pennies...Now the Death Row Above The Law album needs to drop!!!
I don't think ATL recorded enough tracks for a complete album to drop. I remember reading they only completed 7-8 tracks towards the album. Keep in mind at the time Big Hutch was producing for everyone on the label.
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who sets the prices? i wasnt aware of the influx of 93-99 classic death row shit was on the shelf at best buy. I better go grab it now while its 9.99. I mean come on ive been around since 94 . Id rather pay 41 for this then 9.99 for bubble gum hiphop. i couldnt tell you what the last cd i bought that was even close to being worth it. but this shit is the real deal. christ i actually own dats not cd fuckin rips but actual dats from the studio so its not a matter of money with me either. when this stuff sees the light of day its a rare and good feeling to see, as i said before ive been here since 94 and tha last few years this shit is leakin more and more and i cant get enough its like crack for crackheads lol i cant get enough and 41 is not to much to pay. sure i could just wait till it hits the net and get a rip but ill support to see what comes next. if they screw me and the rest of us over they are done i wont grab another thing from them and i have paid 5 gz for shit and ill be done with them.
That's exactly how I feel about it. I don't give a fuck if the average cd is $15, that low price doesn't make it good music and that low price isn't going to get me unreleased music i want. You guys are cheap that's all there is to it. Plain and simple.
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LOL @ cheap. NO, anyone who spends $40 on a cd is just dumb. Would you pay a million dollars for a house in a neighborhood where every house was appraised at $300K? If you would, then again, you are just really dumb. This is the same example.
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You would buy a CD for five thousand dollars yet you're calling everyone else stupid? Dude seriously there are more important things in life
did you read what i said it was not cds. dats from the studio you know what the song is on before the cd? the shit the producers used to master? well worth everypenny! im a collector not some fag lookin for the next tite shit 2 bump on a cdr and forget about in a week so yes worth it! your house exapmle is flawed as well no you wouldnt buy a million dollar house next to 300,000 one but that does not apply to this supply and demand like i said this shit aint on the shelf at best buy playa hence low supply high price!
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lol, I have some rare quarters, that I'm selling for $2000 a piece, only 5 were made. Want to buy them?
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dont collect pac thats the problem with you people i collect ive been to vegas every year since 97 for his vigil did i go just for that? no
i went because its vegas i planned it at that time because of it tho! its a hobby! and to me its worth it but to the next man with i want this but i dont want to give anything for it thats your choice
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dont collect pac thats the problem with you people i collect ive been to vegas every year since 97 for his vigil did i go just for that? no
i went because its vegas i planned it at that time because of it tho! its a hobby! and to me its worth it but to the next man with i want this but i dont want to give anything for it thats your choice
you seem like a dick rider, let me guess you got a deathrow chain to go along with your jerkoff material of vibe magazines with pac on the cover (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Smileys/blue/rolleyes.gif)
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did you read what i said it was not cds. dats from the studio you know what the song is on before the cd? the shit the producers used to master? well worth everypenny! im a collector not some fag lookin for the next tite shit 2 bump on a cdr and forget about in a week so yes worth it! your house exapmle is flawed as well no you wouldnt buy a million dollar house next to 300,000 one but that does not apply to this supply and demand like i said this shit aint on the shelf at best buy playa hence low supply high price!
No you are not some fag..., you're a complete idiot. An idiot looking to "collect" the next thing people tell you is cool for ridiculous amounts of money. Do yourself a real favor, if you have thousands of dollars to spend on "dats" you don’t even bother listening to, maybe spend it on a down payment for a home loan then resell it in 5 years after the value appreciates while renting it out in the interim. Now that's a smart investment. Just ask this oneOone guy; he'll tell you blowing thousands on "dats" is a loosing proposition.
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ass hat i am a realestate broker and own my own home, own! no mortgage lol so trust me this stuff is a hobby and the dats i have are unheard UNHEARD! so there is nothing more rare to collect! hence worth every penny. you are small time so you would not understand! i spend more a month on shit i like to waste my money on then you make in year!
you seem like a dick rider, let me guess you got a deathrow chain to go along with your jerkoff material of vibe magazines with pac on the cover------
you seem like every other lowlife scum bag on the net who has no dick but a lot of balls. i wasn't talking to you so you can have your opinion whatever but its time to put the vibe mag down and get your eyes checked i think you may be going blind!
oh and BTW i have a machine in my house you know the one thats paid 4 that i can actually play my dats on lol whats the use of having them if you cant use them right? ;)
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ass hat i am a realestate broker and own my own home, own! no mortgage lol so trust me this stuff is a hobby and the dats i have are unheard UNHEARD! so there is nothing more rare to collect! hence worth every penny. you are small time so you would not understand! i spend more a month on shit i like to waste my money on then you make in year!
Ok then I take that back, you are a fag. Have fun listening to dats on you machine HAHAHAHAH
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OFTB themselves said on streethop that this album isnt their real deathrow album, its just a collection of tracks they recorded around 1996-1998. so still cool for a dr fan.
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^^^^ Not entirely true
StreetHop.com: Did your 1996 Death Row album have the same track list as the one you’re putting out now?
OFTB: Yes, we gave and took off a few songs. We still have a lot of stuff in the vault.
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30$ fuck that
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30$ shit thats a DUB and a cold drink to go with it LOL :laugh:
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Is this out yet ?
Jeez 40 bucks for one cd...Hell no !!!!!!!!!!!!
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ass hat i am a realestate broker and own my own home, own! no mortgage lol so trust me this stuff is a hobby and the dats i have are unheard UNHEARD! so there is nothing more rare to collect! hence worth every penny. you are small time so you would not understand! i spend more a month on shit i like to waste my money on then you make in year!
you seem like a dick rider, let me guess you got a deathrow chain to go along with your jerkoff material of vibe magazines with pac on the cover------
you seem like every other lowlife scum bag on the net who has no dick but a lot of balls. i wasn't talking to you so you can have your opinion whatever but its time to put the vibe mag down and get your eyes checked i think you may be going blind!
oh and BTW i have a machine in my house you know the one thats paid 4 that i can actually play my dats on lol whats the use of having them if you cant use them right? ;)
Oh no you're a broker! That doesn't automatically save you from being a dumbass. You should know that buying these songs are a waste of money and you're probably getting ripped off anyways.
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The most important thing is that this (and hopefully lots of other unreleased D.R. projects) will finally be available to the general public, doesn't matter who buys it or not cause EVERYBODY will be able to listen to it eventually.
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The most important thing is that this (and hopefully lots of other unreleased D.R. projects) will finally be available to the general public, doesn't matter who buys it or not cause EVERYBODY will be able to listen to it eventually.
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