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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: sonofisis on January 01, 2007, 11:46:07 AM
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"The original Egyptians were black just like any tropical African today. Watch the famous black faces of Egypt."
Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1KYkeBYTk
Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H81eBWMYgtk
Don't get it confused, all of these tanned skinned white looking Egyptians on TV are just actors. The least they can do is hire a few Somalis or Ethiopians. Ancient Egypt was a civilization indigenous to Africa, as a cause of migration from the south near the Sudan. The closest people to them ethnically were the Nubians, don't let any one lie to you. White Egyptians came much much later.
Edit:
The Origin of Egyptian Civilization PT1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3w1x8nVD4xs&mode=related&search=
The Origin of Egyptian Civilization PT2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uZKMzU207MM&mode=related&search=
Ancient Africa's Black Kingdoms
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FciCAXYWx3s&mode=related&search=
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"The original Egyptians were black just like any tropical African today. Watch the famous black faces of Egypt."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1KYkeBYTk
^Tired of reading this bullshit about Indo-Europeans ruling over Egypt and shit.. "Egyptians were Mediterranean", "They were West Asian", "They were everything", yea, everything except black.. Western scholars can suck my dick, naw, we're not letting that slide. Quit putting these white Egyptians on the TV screen! Even the Bible said that the Egyptians came from Ham!
dope drop props 1+
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good for them
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^I guess...
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Black Power!
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
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wheres the almighty blackman?
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lay it out for us ignorant devils eihtball
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
What about Hip Hop?
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.. Western scholars can suck my dick, naw, we're not letting that slide. !
Ay man to that!
F-ck western historians and their greek fairytales. haha
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
What about Hip Hop?
Tht was invented by the Beastie Boys you fucking idiot.
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Ay man to that!
F-ck western historians and their greek fairytales. haha
Go away you smelly foreigner.
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
What about Hip Hop?
Tht was invented by the Beastie Boys you fucking idiot.
AHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BY BEASTIE BOYS?
HAHAHAHAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHAHAHAHA, YOUR SUCH A QUEER
god man, what are you inbred or something, fuck man, HAHAHA, man also why are you so racist and right winged, all hip hop was made against conservatives and white supremacists (you), it supported black panthers, and a lot of rappers had panther blood in them, for example tupac you fucking locked down virgin. I dont know why you listen to hip hop, there are a lot of underground white supremacist rock bands you could listen to, youll like them man, why dont you go on myspace and make a fresh new image for yourself, like become emo or something, you know, you can be amongst people who accept you, you can have friends.
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How dare you mock my virginity.
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
hahaha
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
What about Hip Hop?
Tht was invented by the Beastie Boys you fucking idiot.
Ok fine. What about Rock?
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colored people do not get enough credit. just like the first people were black, arabs came up with algebra, and jesus was black too. dont let these fake faggots brain wash you now. ;)
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Ok fine. What about Rock?
Ever hear of Elvis Presley?
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
Haha, this man is crazy ass hell.. You seem to have my history fucked up with your own. This is your history cave dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js20fyDymd4
Anglo-Saxons were among the last of the civilized peoples. The Greeks were not northern European, stop claiming their history. They were influenced greatly by the black Egyptians and semitic Phoenicians anyways. Go read a book you fucking swine!
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
Haha, this man is crazy ass hell.. You seem to have my history fucked up with your own. This is your history cave dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js20fyDymd4
Anglo-Saxons were among the last of the civilized peoples. The Greeks were not northern European, stop claiming their history. They were influenced greatly by the black Egyptians and semitic Phoenicians anyways. Go read a book you fucking swine!
Why would the video of Nature of the Threat show the kid from Powder? What's it trying to show, that the whiter you get the more evolved you are? Powder was way ahead of other humans.
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The Egyptians were not black. Just give it up, man. No black civilization could have accomplished as much as the Egyptians did.
Haha, this man is crazy ass hell.. You seem to have my history fucked up with your own. This is your history cave dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js20fyDymd4
Anglo-Saxons were among the last of the civilized peoples. The Greeks were not northern European, stop claiming their history. They were influenced greatly by the black Egyptians and semitic Phoenicians anyways. Go read a book you fucking swine!
Why would the video of Nature of the Threat show the kid from Powder? What's it trying to show, that the whiter you get the more evolved you are? Powder was way ahead of other humans.
Its referring to the lyrics in the very begining of the song.
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So basically Ras Kass thinks white people are superior like the kid from Powder? I am cool with that....
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So basically Ras Kass thinks white people are superior like the kid from Powder? I am cool with that....
No thats not what he means. Listen to the song
Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
with the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, Africans
So the mutants traveled North of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters
So here's the Devil's alpha to the beta
Cause history's best qualified to teach one
Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
"Every white man is a faded or a bleached one"
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage Neanderthals, until the late Paleolithic age
That's when the Black Grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf
Around 2000 B.C. Southern Russians migrate in small units
Those who travel West populated Europe
Those who went East settled in Iran, known as Aryans
1500 B.C. some crossed the Khyber Pass into India and
created Hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
A white dot on the forehead meant elite
The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
They wrote the holy Vedas in Sanskrit
That's the language that created Greek, German, Latin and English
Now the Minoans around 2000 B.C.
Starts on the island of Crete, in the Agean Sea
The Greek culture begins Western Civilization
But "Western Civilization" means "White Domination"
Myceneans learned from Kemet, called Egypt in Greek
It existed since at least 3000 B.C.
Creatin geometry and astronomy
This knowledge influenced Plato, Socrates and Hippocrates
Cause Imhotep, the real real father of medicine
Was worshiped in Greece and Rome in the form of a Black African
The word Africa comes from the Greek "Aphrike"
meaning "without cold"; the word philosophy means "love of knowledge"
Stole from first man, Greek power expands
The first Greek fraternities band
The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated, and molested
This was accepted because Greek culture was homosexual
For example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian (Ay let these dumb motherfuckers know)
December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
#%@& each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen to slavery
The first genocide of history
And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
"every woman's husband and every man's wife" (BEOTCH!)
Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
Christians get your facts right
Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yahshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
So who do you praise, do you know his name?
Or do you do this in vain?
Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
Peep the description of historian Josephus
"Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus"
He had the Romans fearing revolution
The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
these same white Romans established Christianity
Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
In his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
"In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny
In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
And separated god into three
Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
and raised then on the third day is a myth
Plus to deceive us
Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
Subconsciously that affects you
It makes you put white people closer to God
(Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
True indeed, fu-- it, Jihad
In the eight century Muslims conquered
Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
They never mention this in history class
cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
On November 25th, 1491
Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
A day of "Thanksgiving" for all European Christians
.. Now listen, when you celebrate "Thanksgiving"
What you are actually celebratin
is the proclamation of the Pope of Rome
Who later, in league with Queen Isabella
sent Cardinal Ximenos to Spain
to murder any blacks that resisted Christianity
These Moors, these black men and women
were from Baghdad, Turkey
And today, you eat the turkey, for your "Thanksgiving" day
as the European Powers destroyed the Turkeys
Who were the forefathers of your mothers and fathers
Now fight the power, you bitch-ass niggaz!
Now around this time, Whites started callings us Negroes
That's Spanish for black object meaning we're not really people
but property, and the triangle trade begins - they seize us
Queen Elizabeth sends the first slaves on a ship named Jesus
Stealin land from the indigenous natives
Gave them alcohol to keep the Red Man intoxicated
Whites claim they had to civilize these pagan animals
But up until 1848 there's documented cases
of whites bein the savage cannibals, eatin Indians
In 1992, it's Jeffery Dahmer
They slaughtered a whole race with guns
Drugs, priests and nuns
1763, the first demonic tactic of biological warfare
As tokens of peace, Sir Jeffery Amherst
passed out clothin and blankets to the Indian community
Infested with small pox, knowin they had no immunity
Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
Now since people of color are genetically dominant
and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then
they simply must, take precautions
That's why they're worried about their future now
because by 2050, almost all the Earth's population
will be brown, then black, so understandin that, whites counterreact
(I'm sayin.. man.. them fools
ain't nothin but a teaspoon of milk in the world color majority)
So they created a system
to force blacks into an unnatural position
That re-enforces the position of natural inferiority
In addition, created guns and developed the ethnocentric view
that God justifies every fuckin thing they do
Condition people to perceive whites' culture as civilized
and every other culture considered primitive - not true!
Racism is the system of racial subjugation against nonwhites
in every areas of human relation
Entertainment, education, labor, politics
Law, religion, sex, war and economics
See blacks were 3/5ths of a man with tax purposes intended
You think you're Afro-American?
You're a 14th amendment and a good nigga
Jews don't salute the fuckin swastika
but niggaz pledge allegiance to the flag that accosted ya
They never teach about the break of islands like Jamaica
But before slaves came here whites would take a
pregnant women, hang her from a tree by her toes
Slice her stomach with a knife
and let the unborn baby fall to the flo'
And stop an unborn child in front of all the slaves
to inbreed fear, so they'd be scared and behave
and not rebel more
Understand all whites must be perceived as potential predators
I paraphrase historian Ishakamusa Barashango
"Understand that regardless of the lofty ideas ingraved on paper
in such documents as the Constitution or Declaration
the basic nature.. of the European American white man
remains virtually unchanged".. so check
This is the nature of the threat
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So basically Ras Kass thinks white people are superior like the kid from Powder? I am cool with that....
That doesn't change the fact that Jeremy 'Powder' Reed is more evolved.
One thing that gets me about the black man being the original man, is that if we came from apes and the black man was the first man that evolved from apes, then does that mean that white people evolved from blacks, and chinese and Jeremy 'Powder' Reed from whites?
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So basically Ras Kass thinks white people are superior like the kid from Powder? I am cool with that....
That doesn't change the fact that Jeremy 'Powder' Reed is more evolved.
One thing that gets me about the black man being the original man, is that if we came from apes and the black man was the first man that evolved from apes, then does that mean that white people evolved from blacks, and chinese and Jeremy 'Powder' Reed from whites?
The 2 second image of "Powder" is irrelevant. To answer your question, no, because when a species "evolves", it evolves into a different species. White people under went mutation, you know, like 3 eyed fish. The adaptation theory is what it claims to be, a "theory".. But either way how do you think Anthropologists came to this theory(Of an African origin)? Because Africa has the most genetic diversity on the planet! Africans have adapted to various climates also, yet they have not evolved. Humanity started in one section of East Africa, Africa has different terrain. Africans differ more among each other than the rest of the world. Yet, the anterior lobe of the brain has remained constant in all humans for 50,000 years or more. You obviously do not understand evolution my friend, homo sapiens are an extremely homogeneous species, with only 0.2% variation among race. Who's to say what that remaining 0.2% was used for, looks like it just accounts for the white skin, light eyes, hair, thin facial structure, and body hair. A lot of these mutations don't benefit Caucasoids in any way. What do you need different color eyes and hair for? What use is that in relation to survival? Again, understand the difference between evolution and simple mutation my friend. How the fuck can a white man evolve from a black man? That is absurd! LOL.. Read my friend, read.
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Ay man to that!
F-ck western historians and their greek fairytales. haha
Go away you smelly foreigner.
your daddys breath smell like a dirty whores butt hole
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So basically Ras Kass thinks white people are superior like the kid from Powder? I am cool with that....
That doesn't change the fact that Jeremy 'Powder' Reed is more evolved.
One thing that gets me about the black man being the original man, is that if we came from apes and the black man was the first man that evolved from apes, then does that mean that white people evolved from blacks, and chinese and Jeremy 'Powder' Reed from whites?
The 2 second image of "Powder" is irrelevant. To answer your question, no, because when a species "evolves", it evolves into a different species. White people under went mutation, you know, like 3 eyed fish. The adaptation theory is what it claims to be, a "theory".. But either way how do you think Anthropologists came to this theory(Of an African origin)? Because Africa has the most genetic diversity on the planet! Africans have adapted to various climates also, yet they have not evolved. Humanity started in one section of East Africa, Africa has different terrain. Africans differ more among each other than the rest of the world. Yet, the anterior lobe of the brain has remained constant in all humans for 50,000 years or more. You obviously do not understand evolution my friend, homo sapiens are an extremely homogeneous species, with only 0.2% variation among race. Who's to say what that remaining 0.2% was used for, looks like it just accounts for the white skin, light eyes, hair, thin facial structure, and body hair. A lot of these mutations don't benefit Caucasoids in any way. What do you need different color eyes and hair for? What use is that in relation to survival? Again, understand the difference between evolution and simple mutation my friend. How the fuck can a white man evolve from a black man? That is absurd! LOL.. Read my friend, read.
Well apes are adapt better to climates than blacks do and their are more variations of apes than there are blacks. The white eyes and light hair are their to show intellectual evolution. How else do you explain a mutated inferior people taking over all the blacks and ruling the world? When the blacks had egypt that's all they had. They couldn't take over the rest of the world. While they were busy building pointless tombs that took years to create the whites were busy coming up with weapons to take over, and that's what they did.
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Whites evolved from blacks, everyone knows that. It is called natural selection. Living in Europe is more difficult because of the harsher climate so whites had to devlop greater intelligence, and the dumb ones died out. Why do you think whites are smarter and have innovated and created so much? it is called evolution.
Who doesn't know that?
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Whites evolved from blacks, everyone knows that. It is called natural selection. Living in Europe is more difficult because of the harsher climate so whites had to devlop greater intelligence, and the dumb ones died out. Why do you think whites are smarter and have innovated and created so much? it is called evolution.
Who doesn't know that?
You and J Bananas are the walking counter-argument to everything you just said.
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You know, i don't really give a fuck either way, I'm just glad that Real American is posting again. We just need Tech to drop us some one liners and ToT will be worth viewing again.
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Whites evolved from blacks, everyone knows that. It is called natural selection. Living in Europe is more difficult because of the harsher climate so whites had to devlop greater intelligence, and the dumb ones died out. Why do you think whites are smarter and have innovated and created so much? it is called evolution.
Who doesn't know that?
Wow, why do all of these white racists say the same shit, giving this same unproven theory? This is clear evidence that whites aren't superior to anything, that's all you race supremists do, you copy and paste from "The History Of The White Race" doctrine, and hold on to it as an article of faith to justify your feeble position. No true anthropologist supports that outdated theory, there is no observational way of measuring this theory, and there is no biological proof in terms of human anatomy to support this outlandish fairy tale claim. Only a lower life form would be inclined to believe such an outlandish thing. No, it is not called evolution! It is mutation because as I've said, the only useful things that white people may have developed is body hair(apish), and shorter/broader stature(all because of the northern climate). Nothing else makes sense logically and as of now can only be attributed to freakish mutations and as an accident. Lol, white people are accidents, haha, funny thought..
Oh, and since you want to throw theories out there, how about the theory that Europeans mated and had offspring with Neanderthals? Hahaha, this is actually a more logical theory and there was even a show about it on Discovery!
Link:
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/ep/Neanderthal.html
Any knowledgeable person call tell you that Neanderthal skeletons were never found in Africa, therefore Neanderthals are 100% positively not ancestors of Black people, yet they might have some infiltration in the homo-sapiens of Northern Europe, leading to the recessive genes we still see to this day!
So basically Ras Kass thinks white people are superior like the kid from Powder? I am cool with that....
That doesn't change the fact that Jeremy 'Powder' Reed is more evolved.
One thing that gets me about the black man being the original man, is that if we came from apes and the black man was the first man that evolved from apes, then does that mean that white people evolved from blacks, and chinese and Jeremy 'Powder' Reed from whites?
The 2 second image of "Powder" is irrelevant. To answer your question, no, because when a species "evolves", it evolves into a different species. White people under went mutation, you know, like 3 eyed fish. The adaptation theory is what it claims to be, a "theory".. But either way how do you think Anthropologists came to this theory(Of an African origin)? Because Africa has the most genetic diversity on the planet! Africans have adapted to various climates also, yet they have not evolved. Humanity started in one section of East Africa, Africa has different terrain. Africans differ more among each other than the rest of the world. Yet, the anterior lobe of the brain has remained constant in all humans for 50,000 years or more. You obviously do not understand evolution my friend, homo sapiens are an extremely homogeneous species, with only 0.2% variation among race. Who's to say what that remaining 0.2% was used for, looks like it just accounts for the white skin, light eyes, hair, thin facial structure, and body hair. A lot of these mutations don't benefit Caucasoids in any way. What do you need different color eyes and hair for? What use is that in relation to survival? Again, understand the difference between evolution and simple mutation my friend. How the fuck can a white man evolve from a black man? That is absurd! LOL.. Read my friend, read.
Well apes are adapt better to climates than blacks do and their are more variations of apes than there are blacks. The white eyes and light hair are their to show intellectual evolution. How else do you explain a mutated inferior people taking over all the blacks and ruling the world? When the blacks had egypt that's all they had. They couldn't take over the rest of the world. While they were busy building pointless tombs that took years to create the whites were busy coming up with weapons to take over, and that's what they did.
Hahahahahahahaha!!! You must be a teenager huh? This is the most absurd and pseudo-intellectual statement that I've read in the past 6 months, lol! I hope that you don't believe your own lies and follow your own logic because you're definitely lost. A few pyramids? Ha! As if, Egypt jump started white civilization and taught the Greeks everything that they knew. Nubia and Ethiopia also thrived well before any place in Northern or Western Europe. White people were seriously still in caves(an over used point, yet valid!).. In the 60+ thousand years of modern human history white man has only held significant dominion for no more than 800 years total! Including Rome, Greece, Britain, and today's powers. Your arrogance doesn't work on me and domination doesn't equate to intelligence because there was a point in time where Mongols ruled half of the world, so were they smarter than half of the world? Egypt ran their part of the world (on and off) for nearly 3,000 years bro, and yes, they had white slaves! So they were obviously smarter than white people at that point in time if we're to follow your logic right? So white people only grew brains in the past 1,000 years then right? Your logic is fallible my faggot friend, which prevents me from having any type of intellectual debate with you, so as of now, I shall refrain
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Whites are sub-human filth created by Yakub through grafting. Blacks are divine beings. The only reason whites appear smarter is because that is all part of the plan. But in a few more years, whites will learn once and for all that we are the GODS, and they are the devils. And then the GODS will reclaim the planet and all crackers will burn in the depths of hell for eternity.
End of story. I have just settled this debate. Bow down before the GOD (since I am pointing an M-16 at you right now).
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Whites are sub-human filth created by Yakub through grafting. Blacks are divine beings. The only reason whites appear smarter is because that is all part of the plan. But in a few more years, whites will learn once and for all that we are the GODS, and they are the devils. And then the GODS will reclaim the planet and all crackers will burn in the depths of hell for eternity.
End of story. I have just settled this debate. Bow down before the GOD (since I am pointing an M-16 at you right now).
Hahaha, I don't know about all of that NOI bullshit but it's a nice fairy tale. All I'm saying is that when one looks at human history objectively and get out of this modern mind frame, you'd see that there is nothing to fear in these people. They are a fragile people with a fragile history who are basically here for the short run. In evolution, any successful species/race(what ever the fuck) should have a thriving population. As far as I can tell, white people are a minority world wide and are destined to be consumed by the color majority. I don't know if it'll be 2050 like Ras Kass said but It'll be soon, all of that destruction for nothing, when the only thing that's gonna happen in the end is a total 360 with things being the way they intended to be and always were. This is why black people were made to be patient and with dominant genes. And this is the truth, no racism involved.
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Hahaha, I don't know about all of that NOI bullshit but it's a nice fairy tale. All I'm saying is that when one looks at human history objectively and get out of this modern mind frame, you'd see that there is nothing to fear in these people. They are a fragile people with a fragile history who are basically here for the short run. In evolution, any successful species/race(what ever the fuck) should have a thriving population. As far as I can tell, white people are a minority world wide and are destined to be consumed by the color majority. I don't know if it'll be 2050 like Ras Kass said but It'll be soon, all of that destruction for nothing, when the only thing that's gonna happen in the end is a total 360 with things being the way they intended to be and always were. This is why black people were made to be patient and with dominant genes. And this is the truth, no racism involved.
Do not contradict me, Uncle Tom House Negro. Contradict the GOD and I will be forced to bust the chopper on you, too. No love for sellouts; Allah said I gotta kill them all.
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Whites are smartest.
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Whites are smartest.
That's just what you've been misled to think. We GODS made you. And we have the power to break you just as easily. Which we will do.
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Hahaha, I don't know about all of that NOI bullshit but it's a nice fairy tale. All I'm saying is that when one looks at human history objectively and get out of this modern mind frame, you'd see that there is nothing to fear in these people. They are a fragile people with a fragile history who are basically here for the short run. In evolution, any successful species/race(what ever the fuck) should have a thriving population. As far as I can tell, white people are a minority world wide and are destined to be consumed by the color majority. I don't know if it'll be 2050 like Ras Kass said but It'll be soon, all of that destruction for nothing, when the only thing that's gonna happen in the end is a total 360 with things being the way they intended to be and always were. This is why black people were made to be patient and with dominant genes. And this is the truth, no racism involved.
Do not contradict me, Uncle Tom House Negro. Contradict the GOD and I will be forced to bust the chopper on you, too. No love for sellouts; Allah said I gotta kill them all.
It's "niggas" like you who give wiggers like real american ammunition for their ignorant ideals.. Neither one of you peasants wants it with me obviously..
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Origin of the Ancient Egyptians: Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop
http://www.africawithin.com/diop/origin_egyptians.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7sCihGltxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EAyStyObw4
The Real Eve
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=THE+REAL+EVE+PART+AFRICA&search=Search
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The Real Eve
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=THE+REAL+EVE+PART+AFRICA&search=Search
So Adam and Eve were black? Yesssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew it wasn't our (white people) fault humanity was banned from paradise. Damn you black people. damn you all. I could have been winging from vines in Eden right now in a full state of happiness.
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original egyptians were pharoes who r african ppl.. they still live in southern egypt
a region called nouba
THEY were the Og egyptians b4 romans, alexander and all those ppl invaded egypt
arabs had the most impact though, cause it is an arabic nation now
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original egyptians were pharoes who r african ppl.. they still live in southern egypt
a region called nouba
THEY were the Og egyptians b4 romans, alexander and all those ppl invaded egypt
arabs had the most impact though, cause it is an arabic nation now
Word.. They even did DNA tests on some of the older populations in southern Egypt and they turned out to have maternal lineages that lead back to East Africa and share the same profile as the Tigre people of Ethiopia and Eritrea, etc.. I think the Ancients probably looked more like the Beja people of northeastern Sudan, southern Egypt, and the surrounding area. They're the oldest ethnic group in that region to not be fully consumed by the Arab invasions.
Beja kids
http://www.4egypt.info/images/bejakids.jpg
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How did this get started again. I don't see why some black people care so much. What are the odds that North American blacks have any connection to Egypt anyway? Most slaves came from west Africa and had completely different cultures. It's like a white guy from Montreal boasting the accomplishments from some guy in Alabama. Or a Greek praising Germany. You don't see Japanese people hyping up ancient China. At best the ancestors of blacks in America were in Egypt as slaves building pyramids. So while the afro-centrics in America want topraise the pyramids, maybe they should think about praising the US cotton industry of the 1800s.
This wasn't so much a response to anyone here, but more a general thought of blacks in America clinging to any accomplishment of anyone with dark skin. For all you know the Egyptians look like Somolians and they aren't that close to African blacks, but usually just as dark if not darker. Shit, you can find Sri Lankans darker than both. I get the whole wating to know where you came from idea, but at least figure out where you may have came from in West or Central Africa and learn about those Kimgdoms and tribes rather than Egypt. Unless the argument is that the blacks were driven south from Egypt by arabs or whatever are the same people that were in west africa as slaves when the Europeans bought them.
Is this simply a false connection based on black pride or is their a real ancestry here? Someone fill me in.
THEY were the Og egyptians b4 romans, alexander and all those ppl invaded egypt
arabs had the most impact though, cause it is an arabic nation now
The mixing and invasions in Egypt started well before the Greeks came to town.
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the eqyptions were evil and pointless people they used slaves to build pyramids which have little use
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^^ nop
these ppl who carried those 6 tonn rocks were not slaves
they were getting paid crazy money...
some of em were engineers, some were teachers, mostly educated ppl
at the time every egyptian was sacraficing to get the pyramind built
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then what were whips for?
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Whites are sub-human filth created by Yakub through grafting. Blacks are divine beings. The only reason whites appear smarter is because that is all part of the plan. But in a few more years, whites will learn once and for all that we are the GODS, and they are the devils. And then the GODS will reclaim the planet and all crackers will burn in the depths of hell for eternity.
End of story. I have just settled this debate. Bow down before the GOD (since I am pointing an M-16 at you right now).
Hahaha, I don't know about all of that NOI bullshit but it's a nice fairy tale. All I'm saying is that when one looks at human history objectively and get out of this modern mind frame, you'd see that there is nothing to fear in these people. They are a fragile people with a fragile history who are basically here for the short run. In evolution, any successful species/race(what ever the fuck) should have a thriving population. As far as I can tell, white people are a minority world wide and are destined to be consumed by the color majority. I don't know if it'll be 2050 like Ras Kass said but It'll be soon, all of that destruction for nothing, when the only thing that's gonna happen in the end is a total 360 with things being the way they intended to be and always were. This is why black people were made to be patient and with dominant genes. And this is the truth, no racism involved.
Oh, so God made black people to be patient with dominant genes so they can rule the world in 2050 and later. Why did he put AIDS on your poor people, though? You can't even govern yourself. Look at the places governed by your people. They have been a mess. And this is the truth, no racism involved. Your people is completely lost without the white man keeping a patriarchic eye on you. Also, it will not be blacks to outnumber whites in America, but Latinos. And trust me you rather be outnumbered by us than by them.
It's "niggas" like you who give wiggers like real american ammunition for their ignorant ideals.. Neither one of you peasants wants it with me obviously..
Shut up, you don't even have the balls to share your opinion with us. I saw you posting an essay and deleting it twice.
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How did this get started again. I don't see why some black people care so much. What are the odds that North American blacks have any connection to Egypt anyway? Most slaves came from west Africa and had completely different cultures. It's like a white guy from Montreal boasting the accomplishments from some guy in Alabama. Or a Greek praising Germany. You don't see Japanese people hyping up ancient China. At best the ancestors of blacks in America were in Egypt as slaves building pyramids. So while the afro-centrics in America want topraise the pyramids, maybe they should think about praising the US cotton industry of the 1800s.
This wasn't so much a response to anyone here, but more a general thought of blacks in America clinging to any accomplishment of anyone with dark skin. For all you know the Egyptians look like Somolians and they aren't that close to African blacks, but usually just as dark if not darker. Shit, you can find Sri Lankans darker than both. I get the whole wating to know where you came from idea, but at least figure out where you may have came from in West or Central Africa and learn about those Kimgdoms and tribes rather than Egypt. Unless the argument is that the blacks were driven south from Egypt by arabs or whatever are the same people that were in west africa as slaves when the Europeans bought them.
Is this simply a false connection based on black pride or is their a real ancestry here? Someone fill me in.
THEY were the Og egyptians b4 romans, alexander and all those ppl invaded egypt
arabs had the most impact though, cause it is an arabic nation now
The mixing and invasions in Egypt started well before the Greeks came to town.
Before I say anything, they're called "Somalis", not "Somalians".. This is how white washed you are in your thought process and shows instantly how very little you know about Africa and its history, let alone Africa and its modern people.
1. For you to ask why do black people connect with Egypt when it's clealy across the continent from west africa is the same reason Europeans connect with Greece. It's a cultural transmission of language, kingship, rituals, etc.. It's Africa's legacy. You find that hard to believe because you know nothing of Africa. Learn of the Bantu migrations, history of the Afro-Asiatic language, and study the ancient Egyptian language of Walaf and Kemetic (Ancient Egyptian) and you'll see how Africa is connected. Either way it doesn't matter, we identify with people who come from Africa.
2. Egypt didn't have black slaves, they were allies with other Africans for the most part. They actually had Indo-European and Eurasian/Semitic slaves, who ever told you that they went all the way to west Africa to pick up slaves is a racist idiot like you, who knows nothing of the history of Egypt. Anthropologically the Egyptians were anatomically "Negro"(which really is a misnomer but still pleads my case), their body proportions were that of a people with tropical body plans(which is important to note, since Egypt is not in the tropics!). Their skulls were initially compared to Europeans, but under close scrutiny they appear closest to Somalis. Nobody invaded Egypt and conquered the original population, in fact, the original population conquered the foreigners.
Read about the now discredited Dynastic Race Theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynastic_Race_Theory
3. The argument isn't the blacks were driven south, some were, but the majority was already consumed by the foreign conquests. And who ever told you Somalis weren't black is an idiot. What are they, white? Some people need a course in Bio and cultural Anthropology before they can truly understand I guess. Genetically they have more in common with other Africans than any European cluster. Culturally they have a lot of Bantu speakers in Somalia, the exact same people that can be found in West Africa, learn more about Africa before you make baseless claims. Egypt belongs to the legacy of Africa just how Greece belongs to the legacy of Europe, even if the Greeks called Northern Europeans Barbarians and considered the color white to be cowardly (they were tan skinned).
Renowned PHD, Howard University professor in Bio-Anthropology S. Keita writes:
"In general, this restricted view presents all tropical Africans with narrower noses and faces as being related to or descended from external, ultimately non-African peoples. However, narrow-faced, narrow-nosed populations have long been resident in Saharo-tropical Africa... and their origin need not be sought elsewhere. These traits are also indigenous. The variability in tropical Africa is expectedly naturally high. Given their longstanding presence, narrow noses and faces cannot be deemed `non-African.'"
Whites are sub-human filth created by Yakub through grafting. Blacks are divine beings. The only reason whites appear smarter is because that is all part of the plan. But in a few more years, whites will learn once and for all that we are the GODS, and they are the devils. And then the GODS will reclaim the planet and all crackers will burn in the depths of hell for eternity.
End of story. I have just settled this debate. Bow down before the GOD (since I am pointing an M-16 at you right now).
Hahaha, I don't know about all of that NOI bullshit but it's a nice fairy tale. All I'm saying is that when one looks at human history objectively and get out of this modern mind frame, you'd see that there is nothing to fear in these people. They are a fragile people with a fragile history who are basically here for the short run. In evolution, any successful species/race(what ever the fuck) should have a thriving population. As far as I can tell, white people are a minority world wide and are destined to be consumed by the color majority. I don't know if it'll be 2050 like Ras Kass said but It'll be soon, all of that destruction for nothing, when the only thing that's gonna happen in the end is a total 360 with things being the way they intended to be and always were. This is why black people were made to be patient and with dominant genes. And this is the truth, no racism involved.
Oh, so God made black people to be patient with dominant genes so they can rule the world in 2050 and later. Why did he put AIDS on your poor people, though? You can't even govern yourself. Look at the places governed by your people. They have been a mess. And this is the truth, no racism involved. Your people is completely lost without the white man keeping a patriarchic eye on you. Also, it will not be blacks to outnumber whites in America, but Latinos. And trust me you rather be outnumbered by us than by them.
It's "niggas" like you who give wiggers like real american ammunition for their ignorant ideals.. Neither one of you peasants wants it with me obviously..
Shut up, you don't even have the balls to share your opinion with us. I saw you posting an essay and deleting it twice.
You're so simple minded, you're speaking by sociological standards. Out of all the AIDS, slavery, rape, violence, etc.. Why hasn't the black population dwindled, it's still strong and growing? Why aren't Africans on the verge of extinction like say, Native Americans? Because it wasn't meant to be obviously, white people are the ones becoming mutts all over the world because of this multicultural push. Black people are still black and will remain that way until everyone else catches up in 2050. According to the one drop rule that means everyone is going to be black! Yay! No more recessive genes, world destruction, war, and homosexuality, yay!
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The Egyptians didn't look all that different than any West Africans, they're all a part of the "Africoid" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africoid ) race, with common to similar lineage, genetic make up, and culture.
The Egyptian Race According to the Classical Authors of Antiquity
To the Greek and Latin writers contemporary with the ancient Egyptians the latter's physical classification posed no problems: the Egyptians were negroes, thick-lipped, kinky-haired and thin-legged; the unanimity of the author's evidence on a physical fact as salient as a people's race will be difficult to minimize or pass over. Some of the following evidence drives home the point.
(a) Herodotus, 'the father of history', -480(?) to -425. With regard to the origins of the Colchians25 he writes:
it is in fact manifest that the Colchidians are Egyptian by race ... several Egyptians told me that in their opinion the Colchidians were descended from soldiers of Sesostris. I had conjectured as much myself from two pointers, firstly because they have black skins and kinky hair (to tell the truth this proves nothing for other peoples have them too) and secondly, and more reliably for the reason that alone among mankind the Egyptians and the Ethiopians have practiced circumcision since time immemorial. The Phoenicians and Syrians of Palestine themselves admit that they learnt the practice from the Egyptians while the Syrians in the river Thermodon and Pathenios region and their neighbors the Macrons say they learnt it recently from the Colchidians. These are the only races which practice circumcision and it is observable that they do it in the same way as the Egyptians. As between the Egyptians themselves and the Ethiopians I could not say which taught the other the practice for among them it is quite clearly a custom of great antiquity. As to the custom having been learnt through their Egyptian connections, a further strong proof to my mind is that all those Phoenicians trading to Greece cease to treat the pudenda after the Egyptian manner and do not subject their offspring to circumcision.26
Herodotus reverts several times to the negroid character of the Egyptians and each time uses it as a fact of observation to argue more or less complex theses. Thus to prove that the Greek oracle at Dondona in Epirus was of Egyptian origin, one of his arguments is the following: '. . . and when they add that the dove was black they give us to understand that the woman was Egyptian.'27 The doves in question - actually there were two according to the text - symbolize two Egyptian women who are said to have BEEN carried off from the Egyptian Thebes to found the oracles in Greece at Dodona and in Libya (Oasis of Jupiter Amon) respectively. Herodotus did not share the opinion of Anaxagoras that the melting of the snows on the mountains of Ethiopia was the source of the Nile floods.28 He relied on the fact that it neither rains or snows in Ethiopia 'and the heat there turns men black'.29
(b) Aristotle, -389 to -332, scientist, philosopher and tutor of Alexander the Great.
In one of his minor works, Aristotle attempts, with unexpected naivete', to establish a correlation between the physical and moral natures of living beings and leaves us evidence on the Egyptian-Ethiopian race which confirms what Herodotus says. According to him, 'Those who are too black are cowards, like for instance, the Egyptians and Ethiopians. But those who are excessively white are also cowards as we can see from the example of women, the complexion of courage is between the two.'30
(c) Lucian, Greek writer, +125(?) to +190.
The evidence of Lucian is as explicit as that of the two previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation.
Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): 'This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin. . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman.'
Timolaus: 'But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus. All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place.'31
(d) Apollodorus, first century before our era, Greek philosopher.
'Aegyptos conquered the country of the blackfooted ones and called it Egypt after himself.'32
(e) Aeschylus, -525(?) to -456, tragic poet and creator of Greek tragedy.
In The Suppliants, Danaos, fleeing with his daughters, the Danaids, and pursued by his brother Aegyptos with his sons, the Aegyptiads, who seek to wed their cousins by force, climbs a hillock, looks out to sea and describes the Aegyptiads at the oars afar off in these terms: 'I can see the crew with their black limbs and white tunics.'33
A similar description of the Egyptian type of man recurs a few lines later in verse 745.
(f) Achilles Tatius of Alexandria.
He compares the herdsmen of the Delta to the Ethiopians and explains that they are blackish, like half-castes.
(g) Strabo, -58 to about +25.
Strabo visited Egypt and almost all the countries of the Roman empire. He concurs in the theory that the Egyptians and the Colchoi are of the same race but holds that the migrations to Ethiopia and Colchoi had been from Egypt only
'Egyptians settled in Ethiopia and in Colchoi.'34 There is no doubt whatever as to Strabo's notion of the Egyptian's race for he seeks elsewhere to explain why the Egyptians are darker than the Hindus, a circumstance which would permit the refutation, if needed, of any attempt at confusing 'the Hindu and Egyptian races'.
(h) Diodorus of Sicily, about -63 to +14, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus.
According to Diodorus it was probably Ethiopia which colonized Egypt (in the Athenian sense of the term, signifying that, with overpopulation, a proportion of the people emigrate to new territory).
The Ethiopians say that the Egyptians `are one of their colonies,35 which was led into Egypt by Osiris. They claim that at the beginning of the world Egypt was simply a sea but that the Nile, carrying down vast quantities of loam from Ethiopia in its flood waters, finally filled it in and made it part of the continent. . . They add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws.36
(i) Diogenes Laertius.
He wrote the following about Zeno, founder of the stoic School (-333 to -261): 'Zeno son of Mnaseas or Demeas was a native of Citium in Cyprus, a Greek city which has taken in some Phoenician colonists.' In his Lives, Timotheus of Athens describes Zeno as having a twisted neck. Apollonius of Tyre says of him that he was gaunt, very tall and black, hence the fact that, according to Chrysippus in the First Book of his Proverbs, certain people called him an Egyptian vine-shoot.37
(j) Ammianus Marcellinus, about +33 to +100, Latin historian and friend of the Emperor Julian.
With him we reach the sunset of the Roman empire and the end of classical antiquity. There are about nine centuries between the birth of Aeschylus and Herodotus and the death of Ammianus Marcellinus, nine centuries during which the Egyptians, amid a sea of white races, steadily crossbred. It can be said without exaggeration that in Egypt one household in ten included a white Asiatic or Indo-European slave.39
It is remarkable that, despite its intensity, all this crossbreeding should not have succeeded in upsetting the racial constants. Indeed Ammianus Marcellinus writes: ". . .the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a skinny and desiccated look."39 He also confirms the evidence already cited about the Colchoi: 'Beyond these lands are the heartlands of the Camaritae40 and the Phasis with its swifter stream borders the country of the Colchoi, an ancient race of Egyptian origin.'41
This cursory review of the evidence of the ancient Graeco-Latin writers on the Egyptians' race shows that the extent of agreement between them is impressive and is an objective fact difficult to minimize or conceal, the two alternatives between which present-day Egyptology constantly oscillates.
An exception is the evidence of an honest savant. Volney, who travelled in Egypt between +1783 and +1785, i.e. at the peak period of negro slavery, and made the following observations on the true Egyptian race, the same which produced the Pharaohs, namely the Copts:
All of them are puffy-faced, heavy eyed and thick-lipped, in a word, real mulatto faces. I was tempted to attribute this to the climate until, on visiting the Sphinx, the look of it gave me the clue to the egnima. Beholding that head characteristically Negro in all its features, I recalled the well-known passage of Herodotus which reads: 'For my part I consider the Colchoi are a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black skinned and kinky-haired.' In other words the ancient Egyptians were true negroes of the same stock as all the autochthonous peoples of Africa and from that datum one sees how their race, after some centuries of mixing with the blood of Romans and Greeks, must have lost the full blackness of its original colour but retained the impress of its original mould. It is even possible to apply this observation very widely and posit in principle that physiognomy is a
kind of record usable in many cases for disputing or elucidating the evidence of history on the
origins of the peoples . . .
After illustrating this proposition citing the case of the Normans, who 900 years after the conquest of Normandy still look like Danes, Volney adds:
but reverting to Egypt, its contributions to history afford many subjects for philosophic reflection. What a subject for meditation is the present-day barbarity and ignorance of the Copts who were considered, born of the alliance of the deep genius of the Egyptians and the brilliance of the Greeks, that this race of blacks who nowadays are slaves and the objects of our scorn is the very one to which we owe our
arts, our sciences, and even the use of spoken word; and finally recollect that it is in the midst of the peoples claiming to be the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that the most barbarous of enslavements has been sanctioned and the question raised whether black men have brains of the same quality as those of white men!42
To this testimony of Volney, Champollion-Figeac, brother of Champollion the Younger, was to reply in the following terms: 'The two physical traits of black skin and kinky hair are not enough to stamp a race as negro and Volney's conclusion as to the negro origin of the ancient population of Egypt is glaringly forced and inadmissible.'43
Being black from head to foot and having kinky hair is not enough to make a man a negro! This shows us the kind of specious argumentation to which Egyptology has had to resort since its birth as a science. Some scholars maintain that Volney was seeking to shift the discussion to a philisophic plane. But we have only to re-read Volney: he is simply drawing the inferences from crude material facts forcing themselves on his eyes and his conscience as proofs.
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(http://www.ancientneareast.net/images/egypt/egypt_satellite.jpg)
This satellite image of Egypt shows that you're both wrong. Egypt is obviously neither black nor brown... it's got a beige/cream color (from the sand), and some green to represent the fertile regions along the Nile :raisetheroof:
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(http://www.ancientneareast.net/images/egypt/egypt_satellite.jpg)
This satellite image of Egypt shows that you're both wrong. Egypt is obviously neither black nor brown... it's got a beige/cream color (from the sand), and some green to represent the fertile regions along the Nile :raisetheroof:
Actually you're wrong because the old name for Egypt in Coptic/Ancient Egyptian is "Kemet". According to who you ask it either means "The Black Land" (According to Eurocentrics), or it means "The land of the Blacks" (According to some Afrocentrics).. I don't really care what it meant because I know what it is anyways.
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(http://www.ancientneareast.net/images/egypt/egypt_satellite.jpg)
This satellite image of Egypt shows that you're both wrong. Egypt is obviously neither black nor brown... it's got a beige/cream color (from the sand), and some green to represent the fertile regions along the Nile :raisetheroof:
Actually you're wrong because the old name for Egypt in Coptic/Ancient Egyptian is "Kemet". According to who you ask it either means "The Black Land" (According to Eurocentrics), or it means "The land of the Blacks" (According to some Afrocentrics).. I don't really care what it meant because I know what it is anyways.
LMAO
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You're so simple minded, you're speaking by sociological standards. Out of all the AIDS, slavery, rape, violence, etc.. Why hasn't the black population dwindled, it's still strong and growing? Why aren't Africans on the verge of extinction like say, Native Americans? Because it wasn't meant to be obviously, white people are the ones becoming mutts all over the world because of this multicultural push. Black people are still black and will remain that way until everyone else catches up in 2050. According to the one drop rule that means everyone is going to be black! Yay! No more recessive genes, world destruction, war, and homosexuality, yay!
You are one Afrocentric little bitch. Black people are known for black on black violence since ever, how come you think there won't be no wars? Homosexuality exists as openly as society allows it, it's not a race thing, faggot. Black people are still black and will remain that way?
Funny.
(http://www.nba.com/media/act_chucky_atkins.jpg)
(http://www.nba.com/media/act_kevin_garnett.jpg)
I can see a difference in skin tones, can't you?
You also focus too much on white people, you bitter little bitch. Ever taking into account how many chinks exist? You rather leave them completely out of any consideration don't you?
You call sociological standards simple minded, yet you speak out of your ass and from stuff you learned while listening to Ras Kass or reading Afrocentric propaganda.
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^^Hahaha! Good come back.. ::)
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^^Hahaha! Good come back.. ::)
Comeback from what? 8)
Dude, start reading some real books.
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^^Hahaha! Good come back.. ::)
Comeback from what? 8)
Dude, start reading some real books.
Typical response from an ignorant Caucasoid. As if you have time to read anything (especially on Africa) when you spend 23 hours a day on here moderating and shit like a low-life wanna-be gangster nerd. Anyways..
Finally in Africa? Egypt, from Diop to Celenko
by Aaron Kamugisha (2003)
http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/finally.html
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Before I say anything, they're called "Somalis", not "Somalians".. This is how white washed you are in your thought process and shows instantly how very little you know about Africa and its history, let alone Africa and its modern people.
Can a white guy be white washed? Take it easy kid. If you knew me you'd actually know that I have more personal friends that are "Somali" than I have personal friends that are white. And everyone one them has at one point or another used the word "somalian" to describe themselves or their people. I don't know what the correct term is but I know what I hear them say. How many people from Somolia do you know? None of the ones I know think of themselves as the same as the blacks in the area and none of the blacks consider them black. That's the area I grew up in and that's how I learned to see it.
While we're being picky about names. Did you know that the word Greece or Greek has no root in the Greek language and was just a word used by Romans to label "us" (I'm "Greek" by the way)? It's not all that different from "nigger". You won't have that info in too many places but I'd like to see you find the Greek root of the word Greek.
Anyway....
1. For you to ask why do black people connect with Egypt when it's clealy across the continent from west africa is the same reason Europeans connect with Greece. It's a cultural transmission of language, kingship, rituals, etc.. It's Africa's legacy. You find that hard to believe because you know nothing of Africa. Learn of the Bantu migrations, history of the Afro-Asiatic language, and study the ancient Egyptian language of Walaf and Kemetic (Ancient Egyptian) and you'll see how Africa is connected. Either way it doesn't matter, we identify with people who come from Africa.
I always found it stupid when I heard people from Germany or Britain take credit for something done by Greeks. You'll never hear anyone in Greece accept western Europeans as one of their own. They despise them in some cases. Ever since they "saved" Greece from Turkey and made one of their teenage Princes the King of Greece, there has been a lot of hate in Greece towards western Europe. And Jews, but that's another story.
Of course I don't even like when Greeks take credit for shit a few ancient Greeks did. I think it's stupid, which is why I used "us" above. I didn't invent the "forms", implement democracy, or measure the circumference of the Earth. When I speak of the ancient Greeks, even to my Greek friends, I never use words like "we" or "us". I just say "ancient Greeks".
2. Egypt didn't have black slaves, they were allies with other Africans for the most part. They actually had Indo-European and Semetic slaves, who ever told you that they went all the way to west Africa to pick up slaves is a racist idiot like you, who knows nothing of the history of Egypt. Anthropologically the Egyptians were anatomically "Negro"(which really is a misnomer but still pleads my case), their body proportions were that of a people with tropical body plans(which is important to note, since Egypt is not in the tropics!). Their skulls were initially compared to Europeans, but under close scrutiny they appear closest to Somalis. Nobody invaded Egypt and conquered the original population, in fact, the original population conquered the foreigners.
Nibs made it very clear to me that semites of that time were black. Egypt also had many wars with places like Nubia and slaves were taken in from that according to the same sources you bring up, wikipedia. Egypt was conquered in many parts many times over the years. Kushites, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs. If this was not the case then you wouldn't see all these people calling themselves Egyptians these days and not look a thing like a black person.
3. The argument isn't the blacks were driven south, some were, but the majority was already consumed by the foreign conquests. And who ever told you Somalis weren't black is an idiot. What are they, white? Some people need a course in Bio and cultural Anthropology before they can truly understand I guess. Genetically they have more in common with other Africans than any European cluster. Culturally they have a lot of Bantu speakers in Somalia, the exact same people that can be found in West Africa, learn more about Africa before you make baseless claims. Egypt belongs to the legacy of Africa just how Greece belongs to the legacy of Europe, even if the Greeks called Northern Europeans Barbarians and considered the color white to be cowardly (they were tan skinned).
Like I said above I don't consider Ancient Greece to be the same as Western Europe at. I never said Somalis were European, but I did say I know plenty of Sri Lankans that are darker than most Somalis and most blacks. Are Sri Lankan's black too?
Now this is a straight question with no implied answer in mind. Is ancient Egypt the breeding ground for current African societies. Did all the Afican Kings from now to before Europe came in the picture develop directly from Egypt? I'm just wondering beacuse I don't know. Are there any connections with the tribal African system or The Empire of Ghana and Ancient Egypt?
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^^Hahaha! Good come back.. ::)
Comeback from what? 8)
Dude, start reading some real books.
Typical response from an ignorant Caucasoid. As if you have time to read anything (especially on Africa) when you spend 23 hours a day on here moderating and shit like a low-life wanna-be gangster nerd. Anyways..
Finally in Africa? Egypt, from Diop to Celenko
by Aaron Kamugisha (2003)
http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/finally.html
LOL@me spending 23 hours a day moderating. Low-life wanna-be gangster nerd? You are one angry kid.
Go read some real book for a change. Like Dostoevsky's The Idiot or something.
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@Shallow
Can a white guy be white washed? Take it easy kid. If you knew me you'd actually know that I have more personal friends that are "Somali" than I have personal friends that are white. And everyone one them has at one point or another used the word "somalian" to describe themselves or their people. I don't know what the correct term is but I know what I hear them say. How many people from Somolia do you know? None of the ones I know think of themselves as the same as the blacks in the area and none of the blacks consider them black. That's the area I grew up in and that's how I learned to see it.
Firstly, I said that you're thought process was white washed, anyone can culturally remove themselves from intellectual prison. About Somalis, that's your bullshit experiences, I know, knew, and have met plenty of Somalis and all of them consider themselves "black", tribal differences are irrelevant. Not to mention that East Africa, mainly Ethiopia is an important part of the Pan-Africanist movement, you know nothing about how Somalis identify because you're not African. You're just white.
While we're being picky about names. Did you know that the word Greece or Greek has no root in the Greek language and was just a word used by Romans to label "us" (I'm "Greek" by the way)? It's not all that different from "nigger". You won't have that info in too many places but I'd like to see you find the Greek root of the word Greek.
Anyway....
I don't give a shit about what the Romans called the mongrel ass Greeks. That was never my emphasis.
I always found it stupid when I heard people from Germany or Britain take credit for something done by Greeks. You'll never hear anyone in Greece accept western Europeans as one of their own. They despise them in some cases. Ever since they "saved" Greece from Turkey and made one of their teenage Princes the King of Greece, there has been a lot of hate in Greece towards western Europe. And Jews, but that's another story.
Of course I don't even like when Greeks take credit for shit a few ancient Greeks did. I think it's stupid, which is why I used "us" above. I didn't invent the "forms", implement democracy, or measure the circumference of the Earth. When I speak of the ancient Greeks, even to my Greek friends, I never use words like "we" or "us". I just say "ancient Greeks".
I'm truly not concerned with those bullshit ideologies that Europeans try and force upon others. It's not about taking credit for anything because it's the fact of pushing Pan-African unity. How can you take credit for anything when it's a legacy of the same people? You don't understand the African mind state, you're truly coming at me from a European understanding.
Nibs made it very clear to me that semites of that time were black. Egypt also had many wars with places like Nubia and slaves were taken in from that according to the same sources you bring up, wikipedia. Egypt was conquered in many parts many times over the years. Kushites, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs. If this was not the case then you wouldn't see all these people calling themselves Egyptians these days and not look a thing like a black person.
Egypt came from the Greek word Agyptos, let's get that straight first. The Egyptians called themselves Kemet, or the Kemetians. Semite is a language group in the Afro-Asiatic language phylum you fool! Semitic is the only Afro-Asiatic language group (out of like 9) found outside of Africa, and the only black semitic speakers were the proto-semitic, and those in Ethiopia who speak languages like the Tigre, so get your facts straight and read a book! Again, you know nothing of Africa. All of this is already confirmed in updated archeology and anthropology. The Kushites spoke Nilo-Saharan, while the Egyptians spoke Afro-Asiatic Kemetic (Ancient Egyptian). I meant to say Eurasian, but the main semitic people were Eurasian around that time.
Like I said above I don't consider Ancient Greece to be the same as Western Europe at. I never said Somalis were European, but I did say I know plenty of Sri Lankans that are darker than most Somalis and most blacks. Are Sri Lankan's black too?
Now this is a straight question with no implied answer in mind. Is ancient Egypt the breeding ground for current African societies. Did all the Afican Kings from now to before Europe came in the picture develop directly from Egypt? I'm just wondering beacuse I don't know. Are there any connections with the tribal African system or The Empire of Ghana and Ancient Egypt?
You're not paying attention, I don't feel like getting the sources but I will if I must. Somalis are Africans, so if they're dark skinned (or light for that matter), yes, they're black! They cluster closer to West Africans than any other outside group in the genetic cluster. Black Australians don't, Black skinned Indians don't, but Somalis do!
About cultural transmission from Egypt and inner Africa, yes. Unique characteristics that ancient egypt shared exclusively with inner Africa and no one else. Also, Egypt doesn't have to be a "breeding ground" for African societies because it was an African society. Actually more evidence suggests an older presence at Qustul in Nubia which holds the oldest pharonic tombs and images of the divine white crown of upper/southern Egypt. But that's besides the point.
1. Divine Kingship
2. Hair Braiding
3 Red Body Coloring
4. Circumcision
5. Totemism
6. Mummification
7. Iron Metallurgy (which actually started in West Africa and spread up)
8. Language
Ghana, Mali, and Songhay all shared these same cultural characteristics.
This is what I can think of off the top of my head. They had nothing at all in common with anyone else.
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Why did this fool ask me if Somalis were black? Ha!
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Why did this fool ask me if Somalis were black? Ha!
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Because these people are darker;
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And like I said the Somalians, as they call themselves, and Ethiopians I know, many of which were born in Somalia and Ethiopia don't consider themselves the same as blacks. Just like Greeks don't consider themselves the same Germans, and Persians don't consider themselves the same as Arabs. I guess it's just another case of the inferior johnny come lately side taking credit for shit other people did. Brits point out the great Greek era of the ancient times. Arabs pint out the great Turkish Empire. I guess western African's like to point out the greatness of their Eastern land mates. Maybe it's just a stupid American thing. You guys down south of the border have a tendency to be stupid and self-centered.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I thought it was going to be an actual discussion exchanging ideas and thoughts. I didn't realize at first I'd be debating the character you're pretending to be on the forum. I can see that now based on how you've responded to others in your past few posts. My bad. If I knew it was a joke discussion I would have brought up more absurd points that go nowhere.
P.S. Wasn't all the land once connected and weren't we all the same once long ago, according to the theories? Greeks are darker than Western Europeans. Doesn't that mean Greeks had some sort of darker ancestry. Does that make me black. I have first cousins way darker than some mized blacks, and most "quadroons".
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Why did this fool ask me if Somalis were black? Ha!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/sonofisis/Somalis-with-LPI-folders-ed.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/sonofisis/62somalia-drought1c.jpg)
Because these people are darker;
(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3345/2262image1sl03190205ni2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
And like I said the Somalians, as they call themselves, and Ethiopians I know, many of which were born in Somalia and Ethiopia don't consider themselves the same as blacks. Just like Greeks don't consider themselves the same Germans, and Persians don't consider themselves the same as Arabs. I guess it's just another case of the inferior johnny come lately side taking credit for shit other people did. Brits point out the great Greek era of the ancient times. Arabs pint out the great Turkish Empire. I guess western African's like to point out the greatness of their Eastern land mates. Maybe it's just a stupid American thing. You guys down south of the border have a tendency to be stupid and self-centered.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I thought it was going to be an actual discussion exchanging ideas and thoughts. I didn't realize at first I'd be debating the character you're pretending to be on the forum. I can see that now based on how you've responded to others in your past few posts. My bad. If I knew it was a joke discussion I would have brought up more absurd points that go nowhere.
P.S. Wasn't all the land once connected and weren't we all the same once long ago, according to the theories? Greeks are darker than Western Europeans. Doesn't that mean Greeks had some sort of darker ancestry. Does that make me black. I have first cousins way darker than some mized blacks, and most "quadroons".
I admit, I got a little impatient with your ignorance. Still am, but let me try and reason with you. Somali people posses genes like E3b that are found among all Africans, but not among Indians, or other dark skinned groups. The phenotypical traits suck as prognathism, and lower brow ridges indicate relationships with other stereotypical Africans. Their body/limb proportions are that of the now obsolete "Negroid" race, that we now call "Africoid". Besides the Amharic Somalis (Arabanized), the indigenous Somalis and Bantu all relate nearly identical to the rest of modern day sub-saharan Africa in comparison to anyone else.
As far as Ethiopians not considering themselves black, again, my patience is low for that type of stuff but this is a flat out lie from an outsider. Leave America... The great emperor Haile Selassie I from Ethiopia was a pioneer Pan-Africanist and literally begged African Americans and others to "come back home". East Africa plays a big part in the Pan-Africanist movement, again, you don't know what you're talking about. And when land was all connected that was called Pangea, which was long before humans ever existed! Haha, god.. I can't believe I'm pleading my case for a black Ethiopia and Somalia, let alone black Egypt, now this is beyond ridiculous. You sure don't think like an African, that's all I have to say, weather you consider that bad, good, or whatever. But basically, if Somalis and Ethiopians aren't black, then neither am I and race doesn't exist, because we are the same people with the most recent common ancestry.
Also, someone negates the most significant fact that basically refutes his capricious claims. The first humans were said to come from that region of Ethiopia, Somalia, and Tanzania! Besides any admixture these people are among the oldest people. So I guess "black people" mutated from them? Blah! Forget it..
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You know who else possesses the E3b gene? Me. Let's fight the power together my brother. Back to the motherland.
P.S. Selassie didn't "beg" that many people to come to Ethiopia. If he did then you'd see a lot more Jamaicans there than there are, and they'd be more integrated. Plus it's not hard to be nice to people thank think you're God and worship you, even though you are a strong Christian minded man who refutes those claims.
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You know who else possesses the E3b gene? Me. Let's fight the power together my brother. Back to the motherland.
P.S. Selassie didn't "beg" that many people to come to Ethiopia. If he did then you'd see a lot more Jamaicans there than there are, and they'd be more integrated. Plus it's not hard to be nice to people thank think you're God and worship you, even though you are a strong Christian minded man who refutes those claims.
The frequency isn't high. All Greeks have E3b, they're malaria resistant also. Why do you think I called Greeks "mongrels"? They have recent sub-saharan ancestry, either due to the slave trade, or earlier migrations. e3b is a core East African haploid. And about Selassie, he was the lightest Ethiopian in history, yet still considered himself black because, he was, as all native sub-saharan Africans are. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? This is a sick conversation.
Read young one. All about DNA and admixture..
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Negroid
^^Ignore the arbitrary classifications of "Negroid" and Caucasoid" as those terms are obsolete in Anthropology now, this person needs to update his/her schooling, but the data is there and E3b is considered, or was (since "Negroid" isn't a real word) considered a "Negroid gene"..
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You know who else possesses the E3b gene? Me. Let's fight the power together my brother. Back to the motherland.
P.S. Selassie didn't "beg" that many people to come to Ethiopia. If he did then you'd see a lot more Jamaicans there than there are, and they'd be more integrated. Plus it's not hard to be nice to people thank think you're God and worship you, even though you are a strong Christian minded man who refutes those claims.
The frequency isn't high. All Greeks have E3b, they're malaria resistant also. Why do you think I called Greeks "mongrels"? They have recent sub-saharan ancestry, either due to the slave trade, or earlier migrations. e3b is a core East African haploid. And about Selassie, he was the lightest Ethiopian in history, yet still considered himself black because, he was, as all native sub-saharan Africans are. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? This is a sick conversation.
Read young one. All about DNA and admixture..
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Negroid
^^Ignore the arbitrary classifications of "Negroid" and Caucasoid" as those terms are obsolete in Anthropology now, this person needs to update his/her schooling, but the data is there and E3b is considered, or was (since "Negroid" isn't a real word) considered a "Negroid gene"..
25 and I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago.
Genetics like all other assumed sciences is all conspiracy created by the white man to keep us E3b brothers down. They don't know shit about the human body. They don't know shit about the earth and they don't even know whether Pluto is a planet or not. They also don't know shit about ancient history. The ancient Greek historians were puppets for the rulers and it was more than implied by the father of history himself. Why do we have access to ancient texts? Because the white man gives it to us. And how do we know they are authentic? Because the white man tells us they are. What we are told about ancient history and what really happened thousands of years ago could be completely different. The blacks Egyptians didn't build the pyramids my friend. It was the shape shifting lizard people. David Icke knows the truth and he's trying to warn us all. We must band together against the reptiles, which include Bush, Hillary Clinton, and others, and we must defeat them and drive them back to Draco.
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You know who else possesses the E3b gene? Me. Let's fight the power together my brother. Back to the motherland.
P.S. Selassie didn't "beg" that many people to come to Ethiopia. If he did then you'd see a lot more Jamaicans there than there are, and they'd be more integrated. Plus it's not hard to be nice to people thank think you're God and worship you, even though you are a strong Christian minded man who refutes those claims.
The frequency isn't high. All Greeks have E3b, they're malaria resistant also. Why do you think I called Greeks "mongrels"? They have recent sub-saharan ancestry, either due to the slave trade, or earlier migrations. e3b is a core East African haploid. And about Selassie, he was the lightest Ethiopian in history, yet still considered himself black because, he was, as all native sub-saharan Africans are. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? This is a sick conversation.
Read young one. All about DNA and admixture..
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Negroid
^^Ignore the arbitrary classifications of "Negroid" and Caucasoid" as those terms are obsolete in Anthropology now, this person needs to update his/her schooling, but the data is there and E3b is considered, or was (since "Negroid" isn't a real word) considered a "Negroid gene"..
25 and I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago.
Genetics like all other assumed sciences is all conspiracy created by the white man to keep us E3b brothers down. They don't know shit about the human body. They don't know shit about the earth and they don't even know whether Pluto is a planet or not. They also don't know shit about ancient history. The ancient Greek historians were puppets for the rulers and it was more than implied by the father of history himself. Why do we have access to ancient texts? Because the white man gives it to us. And how do we know they are authentic? Because the white man tells us they are. What we are told about ancient history and what really happened thousands of years ago could be completely different. The blacks Egyptians didn't build the pyramids my friend. It was the shape shifting lizard people. David Icke knows the truth and he's trying to warn us all. We must band together against the reptiles, which include Bush, Hillary Clinton, and others, and we must defeat them and drive them back to Draco.
You say you stopped taking me seriously along time ago? Ha! The irony! To the contrary, you're the one desperately resorting to crackpot conspiracy theories to save face because you realize how utterly idiotic you sound. Maybe your old ass should go back to school and take an elementary course in Biology. Learn how many bones are in the human body, about white blood cells, and work your remedial ass back up to par with that rusty mind of yours. Wow, the tactics that dumb white people use when they're officially owned! And you're now officially ignored. 8) I have no time to argue with lower life forms about nonsense.