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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: xquistqban on January 01, 2007, 06:51:29 PM
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Damn, Game really proved me wrong. I used to hate him and thought he was overrated. I did not feel his first Album "The Documentary." It sounded like a pop type of G-Unit album (Which it was). But Doctor's Advocate is Bangin. He is one of my fav rappers in the game. This album is straight up westcoast funk. No G-Unit thank God. The beats are bangin and he has westoast legends all over the album. "One Night and "Ol' English" are my two fav tracks. He sounds so Much better with Snoop, Daz, Kurupt (DPG) than he did with G-Unit (50, Buck, Banks). Give it up for The Game and The Westcoast. He shut me and all his other haters the fuk up.
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
I thought Game said in a interview that he did collaborate with X in the studio?
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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the only thing he improved on DA was his flow...rapping alot better but lyrically...he needs to get better...
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
You just always have to find something to complain about when it comes to Game, don't you?
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^ Thats what I don't get about you kids. I say something negative about Game and you make a post about it. But when you hate on G-Unit in every 50 Cent/G-Unit related thread, you find that fine. It goes both ways buddy. You diss G-Unit, I'll say what I want about Game. Your a hater, I'm a hater.
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Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
The doctors advocate is dope.
But its true what ur saying. This album aint bad wit the "cookie cutter album" like you say, cause theres alot worse.
But its true cause back in the days with death row, u used to see all of them be in the studio. theyd have dre or warren making beats while nate in there singing and snoop in there rapping.
So the album would be one dope sound all troughout.
Now days the producer will just send u the beats. U rap. Pay some famous rapper to rap on it, so you send him the beat. and its a song.
U can be across the country and make a song.
People need to go back to having your own producer wit his own style that fits the rapper and just being in the studio making track after track
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
He was with X and Nas in the studio.
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I liked documentary muc better but with that said drs advocate is my favorite of the year and i love the fact that its all westcoast
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it is mainly west coast but he shows national love and that's cool.
i like DA and doc pretty equally and I didn't think i would.
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cookie cutter album or not it's still a banger i dont give a fuck how the album is made what does that have to do with me as a fan all i care about is the music it self
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I couldn't actually listen all the way through The documentry, sure it had one or two good tracks, like start from scratch when i first heard it made me pay attention, hate it or love it will always be a classic in my eyes. But that album was just too long and most parts bored me.
When the DA dropped and even now, i still enjoy all the flows Game gives off throughout his album, sure there was the name dropping issue and what not but in the end i'd give him his props on some real talk. It could have turned out alot worse..
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The reason why people think this album is "best of the year". Is because they probably only listened to a dozen west coast albums this year. Of the mainstream, E-40, Cube, Snoop, sure DA probably is the best (it isn't though). But the more music you listen to, the more you realize the quality just isn't here. Listen to 50 albums a year, damn listen to a hundred, would the DA still be your top album? Hmmm doubt it.
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^ Thats what I don't get about you kids. I say something negative about Game and you make a post about it. But when you hate on G-Unit in every 50 Cent/G-Unit related thread, you find that fine. It goes both ways buddy. You diss G-Unit, I'll say what I want about Game. Your a hater, I'm a hater.
I look at it like this, you and Detox have made it perfectly clear that you hate Game. We get it, we live with it. Why do both of you still find it necessary to go into every thread and hate on him? You've probably posted 25+ about how you don't like "Doctor's Advocate" alone.
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hey brant, how bout you go pop get rich or die tryin in the dvd player for yourself while the rest of us talk about good music. wudyasay, chief?
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DA is a cool album, nothing bad nothing special.
games flow and lyrics are not to imperssive, but the production is pretty good(barring the scott starch tracks) but the nigga tries to hard to sound like Dre and he name drops like a mufucka. this album would have been much better if it was supurvised by the Doc.
good album none the less. 8)
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hey brant, how bout you go pop get rich or die tryin in the dvd player for yourself while the rest of us talk about good music. wudyasay, chief?
I love the hypocrites on this forum. I've never seen the movie, and I don't even like the album. Plus good music is a opinion, do you think Game is a better rapper then 50 Cent? Music is an opinionated subject. And it is my opinion, you sound pretty stupid saying Game is at the up moast of quality that it deserves your time to discuss it. If you really like Game that much, I'll stop posting. I just thought you guys were open to opinion, but instead I guess your obsessed with Game just as much as hes obsessed with himself.
If the Game is as good as it gets on the west, we'll all be listening to country music by the end of 2007. Lets talk about the best in the west, and believe me, Game ain't on the top 10 of rappers these days.
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hey brant, how bout you go pop get rich or die tryin in the dvd player for yourself while the rest of us talk about good music. wudyasay, chief?
I love the hypocrites on this forum. I've never seen the movie, and I don't even like the album. Plus good music is a opinion, do you think Game is a better rapper then 50 Cent? Music is an opinionated subject. And it is my opinion, you sound pretty stupid saying Game is at the up moast of quality that it deserves your time to discuss it. If you really like Game that much, I'll stop posting. I just thought you guys were open to opinion, but instead I guess your obsessed with Game just as much as hes obsessed with himself.
If the Game is as good as it gets on the west, we'll all be listening to country music by the end of 2007. Lets talk about the best in the west, and believe me, Game ain't on the top 10 of rappers these days.
first of all, how does what i said qualify me as a hypocrite. second, yea, good music is opinion. i never said it wasnt. third, anything that we talk about on forums is apparently of enough quality for us to discuss because we take our own time to talk about it. fourth, im open to a lot of music. im from the east, but i love the midwest, south, and west. its just, you seem pretty fixed on mr. jackson. fifth, i never said game was the best in the west or said anything that would show i was obessessed with him. attaboy, though. cant win em all.
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hey brant, how bout you go pop get rich or die tryin in the dvd player for yourself while the rest of us talk about good music. wudyasay, chief?
I love the hypocrites on this forum. I've never seen the movie, and I don't even like the album. Plus good music is a opinion, do you think Game is a better rapper then 50 Cent? Music is an opinionated subject. And it is my opinion, you sound pretty stupid saying Game is at the up moast of quality that it deserves your time to discuss it. If you really like Game that much, I'll stop posting. I just thought you guys were open to opinion, but instead I guess your obsessed with Game just as much as hes obsessed with himself.
If the Game is as good as it gets on the west, we'll all be listening to country music by the end of 2007. Lets talk about the best in the west, and believe me, Game ain't on the top 10 of rappers these days.
Who is a hypocrite, and how?
If it's just an opion then why do you get upset EVERYTIME someone says anything good about Game or bad about 50?
No one said he's the "upmost of quality".
He is a top 10 West Coast artist right now. Hate it or love it but its true.
Oh, and before you go crying about me hating on your idol 50, read this...
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=124654.0
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
-T
haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
how do you know that he didnt
hell i know Snoop X & him did WC Vacation in studio together & him & Nas did theres together...he didnt mention other tracks but how the hell do you know that they didnt
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he sounds dope wit dpg
DA > doc
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game sucks. most generic rapper ever
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lol @ the ppl who support the west yet wont support game
not all there are some who have never liked him....fair enoigh....but i hate the ones that were all on his dick until he blew up & now they hate him coz his "commercial generic rapper" some ppl have a short memory
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I never said he was one of the best. I liked documentary, and DA was equally enjoyable. S'all I said. -T
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DA considering there was no Dre and 50 who were all over his first album is a very dope album, didn't like it at first but it does have replay value, Game is keeping the West going along with Snoop, but we need cats like Game who still young to keep the movement going, Snoop, Cube, DPG are all in their mid to upper 30's are still making dope music but Game and hopefully Crooked I will someday blow up although I doubt it, maybe Bishop Lamont can get some shine in 07
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Man it is comical the way people get so emotional over rappers. Like Game and 50 are dissing yall directly or something. If you a 50 Cent fan, cool, a Game fan, cool even Dipset, cool. It is just a opinion at the end of the day. 50 and Game ain't going to put you guys on the label at the end of the day anyway.
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I feel what you're saying d-nice, but I don't think anyone is taking it too far. it's just discussion of ideas, I don't feel anyone feels its any more than that. it's just we get passionate about ideas, because ideas are important. we thinkaz.-T
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I feel what you're saying d-nice, but I don't think anyone is taking it too far. it's just discussion of ideas, I don't feel anyone feels its any more than that. it's just we get passionate about ideas, because ideas are important. we thinkaz.-T
Everytime somebody brings up a topic about these 2 (Game & 50) it turns into comedy. If you like either one of their records it is automatic dickriding and stan status. It could be a good topic on either one of them and the topic gets lost in all the hating. You got to admit the shit is funny as hell.
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what was detox is not comings sn before detoxisnotcoming?
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DA > Doc
DA is a more cohesive album, Doc was all over the place with the sound. DA sounds all West Coast except for maybe "Wouldn't Get Far" and "Why You Hate The Game" but they still fit the feel of the album. The concept, although stannish, behind the album also gives DA a direction. Doc is a great album too though not taking anything away from it.
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DA > Doc
DA is a more cohesive album, Doc was all over the place with the sound. DA sounds all West Coast except for maybe "Wouldn't Get Far" and "Why You Hate The Game" but they still fit the feel of the album. The concept, although stannish, behind the album also gives DA a direction. Doc is a great album too though not taking anything away from it.
real talk. Bumpin DA right now. Bang is starting to sound better to me each time I play it.
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The beats that daz/kurupt and snoop/xzibit rap on are mediocre as fuck. Bang would be cool if not for that whack break where the chords descend and the drums hit with each note....ugh....and CA Vacation's beat sounds corny as fuck. The verses are cool but it's corny chords (the funky worm sample is cool, but the chords the line goes over is shit). It would have been cool to hear snoop and kurupt or daz and xzibit on 'too much'', 'remedy' or 'let's ride' all much better beats than the wc vacation and bang.
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The beats that daz/kurupt and snoop/xzibit rap on are mediocre as fuck. Bang would be cool if not for that whack break where the chords descend and the drums hit with each note....ugh....and CA Vacation's beat sounds corny as fuck. The verses are cool but it's corny chords (the funky worm sample is cool, but the chords the line goes over is shit). It would have been cool to hear snoop and kurupt or daz and xzibit on 'too much'', 'remedy' or 'let's ride' all much better beats than the wc vacation and bang.
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Wow you did not like California Vacation? I don't think I have heard anyone say that before. I agree the beat is not that great but something about that song I like. Maybe it's because it's DPG & Game together on 1 track. Cali Vacation is dope as fuck to me, throwback to the glory days.
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esactly it does feel like a throwback to the glory days. But I mean....through scott storch dre lives! Look at 'too much' and tell me he can't crank out that 70's funk all day! They need not but to buy a beat from scotty storch and CA vacation would have been a banger instead of xzibit soundin' old talkin' bout it's important to do some shit. I like the verses but the beat sounds like it's trying to make something epic out of somethin that could be funky. BUT I feel what you're sayin'.
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I hear ya. That shit sounds nice coming out of my 2 15 inch subwoofers in the Lac. Actually if I am in the Lac I can't hear you. ;D 8)
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
you know this how?
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DA was a solid album, a couple nice bangers. i think he woulda sold more copies had he came out with it earlier, while he still had all the 50/game buzz goin on.
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lol @ the ppl who support the west yet wont support game
not all there are some who have never liked him....fair enoigh....but i hate the ones that were all on his dick until he blew up & now they hate him coz his "commercial generic rapper" some ppl have a short memory
Off top I don't support no region, I support good music. Game doesn't make that. And I didn't say he was a "commercial generic rapper." He is generic as fuck, just not of the commercial mold. He's "Generic California Gangsta Rapper part 97,836,405,827" and that should be his rap name too. low rider, chuck taylors, gangbang gangbang sell crack, smoke weed, fuck bitches hit switches. Generic as fuck. He's like a store brand rapper.
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lol @ the ppl who support the west yet wont support game
not all there are some who have never liked him....fair enoigh....but i hate the ones that were all on his dick until he blew up & now they hate him coz his "commercial generic rapper" some ppl have a short memory
Off top I don't support no region, I support good music. Game doesn't make that. And I didn't say he was a "commercial generic rapper." He is generic as fuck, just not of the commercial mold. He's "Generic California Gangsta Rapper part 97,836,405,827" and that should be his rap name too. low rider, chuck taylors, gangbang gangbang sell crack, smoke weed, fuck bitches hit switches. Generic as fuck. He's like a store brand rapper.
this man speaks the undeniable truth. California Vacation would've been a great song, but Game was outshined 100 fold by Snoop and X. Game should've rewrote his verse for that, its one of the worst verses in history of rap music.
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game sucks. most generic rapper ever
Trying giving a better reason rudeboi/Turf Hitler >_>.
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this was one of the best albums.
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is CA vacation the one where he says gimme head like it's 94? shit is pretty horrible if that's the one.
but as far as game being generic, you're looking at it too simply. Game is a completely new style of rap in disguise. It's meta-cognitive rap, rap that's aware of itself. it's a reflection of our reality tv society, this his first LP being the documentary. He doesn't rap about gangster shit, he raps about rapping about gangster shit. It's tribute rap. the content of his music is actually closer to the content of this message board rather than that of a snoop album.
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is CA vacation the one where he says gimme head like it's 94? shit is pretty horrible if that's the one.
but as far as game being generic, you're looking at it too simply. Game is a completely new style of rap in disguise. It's meta-cognitive rap, rap that's aware of itself. it's a reflection of our reality tv society, this his first LP being the documentary. He doesn't rap about gangster shit, he raps about rapping about gangster shit. It's tribute rap. the content of his music is actually closer to the content of this message board rather than that of a snoop album.
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hahaha funniest thing I've read today. Yes his content is closer to the quality of a message board, and we all know how quality some of these discussions are ::) For someone who claims to be all thugged out, I expect something better then rapping about rapping about being a thug.
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I meant the content, not so much the quality.
as far as the quality goes, he is not the most naturally talented rapper but he does make effort to improve (which most naturally talented MC can't even claim anymore) and his songs are always banging and yes this is because of the producer mainly, but what does that mean to me, the consume? nothin'. I don't care who's responsible for the banging nature of the song, I just want my 17 bucks worth.
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DA > Doc
DA is a more cohesive album, Doc was all over the place with the sound. DA sounds all West Coast except for maybe "Wouldn't Get Far" and "Why You Hate The Game" but they still fit the feel of the album. The concept, although stannish, behind the album also gives DA a direction. Doc is a great album too though not taking anything away from it.
Agree wit everything except for the 2 tracks you mentioned saying they still fit the album.Oh & "Bang" is my favorite track.
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I guess everyone has their reason as to why they do not like Game. That comes with the fame and fortune. Mo Money Mo Problems. 1 factor that Game did have on his side on his 2nd album is the fact that he did have the support of alot of heavy hitters on the west (especially Snoop, if he would not co sign Game, that would have been damaging). If he would not have had that along with all the other beefs he had going on, I don't know how effective the album would be. Not to say that the guests carry the album, it just would not justify him saying he is bringing the west back as much.
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I guess everyone has their reason as to why they do not like Game. That comes with the fame and fortune. Mo Money Mo Problems. 1 factor that Game did have on his side on his 2nd album is the fact that he did have the support of alot of heavy hitters on the west (especially Snoop, if he would not co sign Game, that would have been damaging). If he would not have had that along with all the other beefs he had going on, I don't know how effective the album would be. Not to say that the guests carry the album, it just would not justify him saying he is bringing the west back as much.
I feel it would have been almost as damaging to snoop's cause to not co-sign game. But yeah, you speak real.
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I guess everyone has their reason as to why they do not like Game. That comes with the fame and fortune. Mo Money Mo Problems. 1 factor that Game did have on his side on his 2nd album is the fact that he did have the support of alot of heavy hitters on the west (especially Snoop, if he would not co sign Game, that would have been damaging). If he would not have had that along with all the other beefs he had going on, I don't know how effective the album would be. Not to say that the guests carry the album, it just would not justify him saying he is bringing the west back as much.
I feel it would have been almost as damaging to snoop's cause to not co-sign game. But yeah, you speak real.
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Well I meant it being that Snoop is already established. Game was becoming that after his 1st album but other than Dre he really did not have strong ties to anyone out west. So Snoop doing How The West Was One tour and putting Game on it, kind of put that official stamp from Snoop that me and him are riding together. And Snoop could have said "Fuck that, I am not supporting what Game is doing". He said it in a interview that he knew 50 first and once he sat down and got to know Game that made up his mind to work with him. So the support of Snoop, Cube, Dogg Pound, 40, Short and others went a long way.
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truth.
i often think, once more, that Game is the perfectly designed west coast product. Between his first and second album he's worked with over 80% of the people you should work with to get your stripes and pay your dues in the west. If they weren't on his first album (Dre, Nate) they were on his second (alot of the rest of DPG). and if they weren't on either, well remember he did a song with Quik. dude's made all the right moves in some senses.
dude's rolled with the three or four people on the west that can really stamp you. Snoop,dre,quik, and 40 wadda.
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fuck the haters, this album was hella tight
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truth. he improved miles on DA.
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haha yeah right ::). Maybe he proved something to you, but music wise, its just the same old predictible Game. DA, 3.5/5, the Doc 4/5. The thing I don't like about this album is, its a cookie cutter album. The producers send him the beats, the features send him the vocals, and then he puts vocals on top. I would've liked if Game, Xzibit and Snoop got together in a room with JR and wrote/produced a track. But its not like that. Theirs no music collaberation, I bet Game never even met face to face half the producers he put on the album.
Rappers need to get back to the old days, go into the studio with one or two producers, and work and calloborate and make an album. Its not like Game and Xzibit sat together and wrote/rapped together to the beat. Its not very imaginative or exciting. It doesn't go together. Rappers need to collaborate in person.
You couldn't be more right about this, but it's not just Game, it's just about every artist that has features on their albums today. Everything is cookie cutter. I enjoy Game's album, but it could be miles better if he were to sit down with all artists and producers and think out concepts together and break down beats and invest all ideas possible to make a song more creative. Why do you think The Chronic, Doggystyle, Illmatic, 36 Champbers are all considered classics. Because they were all in the studio in the same mind frame as eachother when the albums were being made. The Game, meaning hiphop has got really lazy, because it doesn't have a demanding audience anymore. Yall agree?
chill
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I agree but again who is saying that he did not collaborate in the studio with these artists. He said he was in the studio with Nas, Busta, X. The was in the studio with Just Blaze. Maybe I am missing something here.
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I agree but again who is saying that he did not collaborate in the studio with these artists. He said he was in the studio with Nas, Busta, X. The was in the studio with Just Blaze. Maybe I am missing something here.
I base most of what i was saying on the production although i didn't fully state that. When you listen to his songs, they go verse/chorus/verse/chorus all the way to the end. There's really no breakdowns or anything to grab your atterntion to change the song up at all. Not to mention his lyrical content seems to run short quite fast. I think DA is one of my favorite albums to bump this year, possibly my favorite west coast album since Quik's last, which to this day i think can't be fucked with.
Fuck it, on that note. That's a perfect example of what a well thought out album is. Dj Quik's Trauma. Although yall may or may not have liked it, everybody was on the same page when writing the tracks. I even marked out when i heard how dope and hungry Chingy sounded on the4 track he did with Quik, and i can't stand Chingy. Quik sits down and writes music from scratch and is there during the whole recording process of songs. That's why his albums flow so well and everyone sounds like they're on the same page. Pick through any one of his albums, it sounds like everyone involved was in the same room while that album was being made. And that dates from 1991-2005,
chill
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I agree but again who is saying that he did not collaborate in the studio with these artists. He said he was in the studio with Nas, Busta, X. The was in the studio with Just Blaze. Maybe I am missing something here.
I base most of what i was saying on the production although i didn't fully state that. When you listen to his songs, they go verse/chorus/verse/chorus all the way to the end. There's really no breakdowns or anything to grab your atterntion to change the song up at all. Not to mention his lyrical content seems to run short quite fast. I think DA is one of my favorite albums to bump this year, possibly my favorite west coast album since Quik's last, which to this day i think can't be fucked with.
Fuck it, on that note. That's a perfect example of what a well thought out album is. Dj Quik's Trauma. Although yall may or may not have liked it, everybody was on the same page when writing the tracks. I even marked out when i heard how dope and hungry Chingy sounded on the4 track he did with Quik, and i can't stand Chingy. Quik sits down and writes music from scratch and is there during the whole recording process of songs. That's why his albums flow so well and everyone sounds like they're on the same page. Pick through any one of his albums, it sounds like everyone involved was in the same room while that album was being made. And that dates from 1991-2005,
chill
No one is saying that shit isn't tight, but it doesn't mean records that were made other ways bad.
ALSO:
Lookin' At You
Why you hate the Game?
aren't that conventional in structure.
-T
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I agree but again who is saying that he did not collaborate in the studio with these artists. He said he was in the studio with Nas, Busta, X. The was in the studio with Just Blaze. Maybe I am missing something here.
I base most of what i was saying on the production although i didn't fully state that. When you listen to his songs, they go verse/chorus/verse/chorus all the way to the end. There's really no breakdowns or anything to grab your atterntion to change the song up at all. Not to mention his lyrical content seems to run short quite fast. I think DA is one of my favorite albums to bump this year, possibly my favorite west coast album since Quik's last, which to this day i think can't be fucked with.
Fuck it, on that note. That's a perfect example of what a well thought out album is. Dj Quik's Trauma. Although yall may or may not have liked it, everybody was on the same page when writing the tracks. I even marked out when i heard how dope and hungry Chingy sounded on the4 track he did with Quik, and i can't stand Chingy. Quik sits down and writes music from scratch and is there during the whole recording process of songs. That's why his albums flow so well and everyone sounds like they're on the same page. Pick through any one of his albums, it sounds like everyone involved was in the same room while that album was being made. And that dates from 1991-2005,
chill
Ok I see what you are saying. It's funny you said Quik because after Game was not working with Dre I wanted Quik to do executive production for Game. I think the album does have a good flow and vibe to it. It could be better but I think also that comes from the fact he does not have that musical director like a Dre or Quik putting his album together either. So for Game, it is probably just easier to get the tracks and rap over them, but other producers you want to sit down and make it from stratch. Some songs had that feel, others did not.
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I agree but again who is saying that he did not collaborate in the studio with these artists. He said he was in the studio with Nas, Busta, X. The was in the studio with Just Blaze. Maybe I am missing something here.
I base most of what i was saying on the production although i didn't fully state that. When you listen to his songs, they go verse/chorus/verse/chorus all the way to the end. There's really no breakdowns or anything to grab your atterntion to change the song up at all. Not to mention his lyrical content seems to run short quite fast. I think DA is one of my favorite albums to bump this year, possibly my favorite west coast album since Quik's last, which to this day i think can't be fucked with.
Fuck it, on that note. That's a perfect example of what a well thought out album is. Dj Quik's Trauma. Although yall may or may not have liked it, everybody was on the same page when writing the tracks. I even marked out when i heard how dope and hungry Chingy sounded on the4 track he did with Quik, and i can't stand Chingy. Quik sits down and writes music from scratch and is there during the whole recording process of songs. That's why his albums flow so well and everyone sounds like they're on the same page. Pick through any one of his albums, it sounds like everyone involved was in the same room while that album was being made. And that dates from 1991-2005,
chill
No one is saying that shit isn't tight, but it doesn't mean records that were made other ways bad.
ALSO:
Lookin' At You
Why you hate the Game?
aren't that conventional in structure.
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Yeah to a degree, but how i look at it, fuck structuring a song. Structure a whole album. When you finish listening to that album, you should feel like it's something you haven't heard before, like they flipped it differently. They tried to be creative enough to seperate themselves from everything else. If you aren't in the studio vibing off the person you are making a song or album with how are you going to create that energy and bring out eachothers creative sides. The reason i feel this way is because all the music i make, i sit down and properly think it out with the people i'm creating with. Back in the day when i was releasing shit on dubcc over JayMastaJay and I-Bo productions i didn't have the luxury to sit down with them and get creative becasue we lived across the world from eachother. But now, that we do our own production we are albe to cover our bases. See artists like Game have that ability to get with the people that they make their songs with. It's just a matter of laziness i believe and the fact that they know people are going to buy their shit regardless. But i do feel, that record sales are down now because the consumer is starting to catch on and realize the laziness of artists which leads them to downloading albums. I'm not going to contradict myself, I download shit as well, but when i come across an album i really feel was put together well, i support it,
chill
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coo. -T
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I agree but again who is saying that he did not collaborate in the studio with these artists. He said he was in the studio with Nas, Busta, X. The was in the studio with Just Blaze. Maybe I am missing something here.
I base most of what i was saying on the production although i didn't fully state that. When you listen to his songs, they go verse/chorus/verse/chorus all the way to the end. There's really no breakdowns or anything to grab your atterntion to change the song up at all. Not to mention his lyrical content seems to run short quite fast. I think DA is one of my favorite albums to bump this year, possibly my favorite west coast album since Quik's last, which to this day i think can't be fucked with.
Fuck it, on that note. That's a perfect example of what a well thought out album is. Dj Quik's Trauma. Although yall may or may not have liked it, everybody was on the same page when writing the tracks. I even marked out when i heard how dope and hungry Chingy sounded on the4 track he did with Quik, and i can't stand Chingy. Quik sits down and writes music from scratch and is there during the whole recording process of songs. That's why his albums flow so well and everyone sounds like they're on the same page. Pick through any one of his albums, it sounds like everyone involved was in the same room while that album was being made. And that dates from 1991-2005,
chill
Ok I see what you are saying. It's funny you said Quik because after Game was not working with Dre I wanted Quik to do executive production for Game. I think the album does have a good flow and vibe to it. It could be better but I think also that comes from the fact he does not have that musical director like a Dre or Quik putting his album together either. So for Game, it is probably just easier to get the tracks and rap over them, but other producers you want to sit down and make it from stratch. Some songs had that feel, others did not.
We're on the same page now ;)
chill
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I actually like the songs he has done on both albums with Just Blaze. I know he sits down with him and comes up with stuff.
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I actually like the songs he has done on both albums with Just Blaze. I know he sits down with him and comes up with stuff.
I totally agree with you, i remember alot of people not feelin the stuff on the first album but i liked those two tracks alot. And he really stepped his westcoast game up on DA,
chill
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this album's quality shiet