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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: ~Lucien~ on January 22, 2007, 04:02:49 PM
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Most of you have already heard the news about the RIAA (Recording Institute Association of America) and the recent raids on numerous people (DJ Drama etc.) producing mixtapes and also those selling them. Mixunit decided to remove all of their mixtapes from the site. :-X
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Ain't that about a bitch?!
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let's see what happens...
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fuck the RIAA. they dont understand the game or the hustle.
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Remember when the RIAA shut down Dubcnn.com? :P
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good, mixtapes are nothin but train wrecks anyways
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good, mixtapes are nothin but train wrecks anyways
nah some of them are pretty good.
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Most of you have already heard the news about the RIAA (Recording Institute Association of America) and the recent raids on numerous people (DJ Drama etc.) producing mixtapes and also those selling them. Mixunit decided to remove all of their mixtapes from the site. :-X
WHAT!?!?!?!?
FUCK THAT!!!!!!
That's not even right. So what does that mean, no more mixtapes?!? FUCK THAT! Mixunit???? There goes my hip hop. >:(
>:(
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good, mixtapes are nothin but train wrecks anyways
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There goes hip hop. There goes FUCKIN' hip hop.
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Most of you have already heard the news about the RIAA (Recording Institute Association of America) and the recent raids on numerous people (DJ Drama etc.) producing mixtapes and also those selling them. Mixunit decided to remove all of their mixtapes from the site. :-X
WHAT!?!?!?!?
FUCK THAT!!!!!!
That's not even right. So what does that mean, no more mixtapes?!? FUCK THAT! Mixunit???? There goes my hip hop. >:(
>:(
co sign
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good, mixtapes are nothin but train wrecks anyways
nah some of them are pretty good.
yea I've heard of some, but personally I've never heard any good ones
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Why is the RIAA doing this if the artists are consenting to make these mixtapes?
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I'm not a mixtape person myself but man fuck the RIAA. Mixtapes are a big contribution to what made alot of rappers today famous.
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just give them away for FREE
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They will just start slangin them for free or get them "official" barcodes and sell them in retail stores. They would set it up so that the major chains could benefit.
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Why is the RIAA doing this if the artists are consenting to make these mixtapes?
Maybe cause they're using other people's beats most of the time ?
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And how everybody says they can't take hip hop away from us. HA! Yeah, here it slowly goes.
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Hah, they just can't make it blatant like it's been. I'm still gonna be able to go to the Rialto swapmeet and VIP records and walk in and get mixtapes, and people who can do the same will get them up them on to dubcnn and upload them to you so don't even trip pimpin'. Underground shit will always be made because not all music gets released major label, it just ain't gonna happen.
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Why is the RIAA doing this if the artists are consenting to make these mixtapes?
Maybe cause they're using other people's beats most of the time ?
yes that's the main reason I think
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Why is the RIAA doing this if the artists are consenting to make these mixtapes?
Maybe cause they're using other people's beats most of the time ?
yes that's the main reason I think
So? >:(. It's a fuckin' mixtape. FUCK them muthafuckas.
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Why is the RIAA doing this if the artists are consenting to make these mixtapes?
Maybe cause they're using other people's beats most of the time ?
Oh yeah!
Damn, we're gonna be afraid to even bump the music we buy one day.
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i don't even like mixtapes but that is fucked up tellin people u can't make music
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i don't even like mixtapes but that is fucked up tellin people u can't make music
no it's not that. u can, but with your own made beats or you have to pay for beats
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i don't even like mixtapes but that is fucked up tellin people u can't make music
Exactly, there goes our hip hop.
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i don't even like mixtapes but that is fucked up tellin people u can't make music
Exactly, there goes our hip hop.
damn especially for u who has like papoose who has thirty billion mixtapes
i don't own one mixtape so it don't affect u
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lol
let this be known as the day that hip hop/rap ended. January 22nd 2007 :'(
big fucking deal
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Fuck RIAA ;)
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lol
let this be known as the day that hip hop/rap ended. January 22nd 2007 :'(
big fucking deal
Just remember how hip hop started. Selling tapes out the trunk. Aka mixtapes. For the streets. The hype. Salute hip hop as it departs.
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STOP ALL THIS TALK HIPHOP WILL NEVER DIE PERIOD IF ANYTHING IT WILL WANT TO MAKE US BUY THE ALBUMS MORE AND HAVE THEM SPIT THEY BEST LYRICS ON THE ALBUMS AND NOT THE MIXTAPES SO IT DON'T HURT ME AT ALL
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Should just get a distribution deal. You can get "official" mixtapes at Best Buy. I've seen DJ Drama mixtapes and Game Mixtapes (Ghost Unit, SSSL, uknowhatitis 3) in official packaging with barcodes
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^ Yeah, I bought an Affiliates mixtape in a legit CD store too. I don't see what's wrong with it, if it's just for the streets?
Plus more than half of mixtapes selling on the streets are bootlegs, so it ain't like they gettin' all that money. ?
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For real, for real..
How do you get in touch wit the RIAA, I got some words for them.
Anybody know?
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How do you get in touch wit the RIAA, I got some words for them.
haha, let em have it ;)
so is that why everyone has that "FREE DRAMA" pic? they gave him time for selling mixtapes? :o
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How do you get in touch wit the RIAA, I got some words for them.
haha, let em have it ;)
so is that why everyone has that "FREE DRAMA" pic? they gave him time for selling mixtapes? :o
yup
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How do you get in touch wit the RIAA, I got some words for them.
haha, let em have it ;)
so is that why everyone has that "FREE DRAMA" pic? they gave him time for selling mixtapes? :o
him and cannon are out on $100,000 bond. they got ray lewis' lawyer to defend them i think. the one who defended ray when he popped a bitch or whatever.
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the mixtape-industry they're aiming at is not the mixtapes of up-and-coming artist putting out their own shit, but the million dollar mixtape industry the major DJ's are running... Drama can't go around bragging about selling a million mixtapes and expect the labels (who OWNS much of the materiale used on mixtape, esp. beats) and artists (who often doesn't get a dime, Lil' Wayne commented on this in some interview) to let it slide... fact is that mixtapes is taking away a biiig share of music market, and when they're bending the rules, they're bound to get fucked.
And the mixtape-game we see in todays hip-hop got nothing to do with the good old running-your-tapes-out-yo-trunk-business, most of the time it's not even original beats on it, but when it is, I don't see the problem in labeling the "mixtape" as a demo or a street-album, if your label won't let you release them, fuck it, you shouldn't have signed the contract if you're so damn eager to get your half-assed material out on the streets.
let me be the first to say "Fuck mixtapes", it's ruining more than it's creating... some up-and-comers push out so many tapes that when their albums finally drop, people are tired of them... Whatever happened to good' ol' hype? Snoop didn't need 100 mixtapes to become a star, neither did Jigga, Nas, Biggie, 2pac+++ They got their hype from guest-appearances, word on the streets, affiliation etc. When was the last time an album came that you were just dying to hear? I can't remember the last time I felt like that, because they all push their leftovers out on the streets a year before the album is finished, and i'm sick of it..
Blah, it's 6 in the morning, i'm tired and annoyed, so alot of that prolly didn't make any sense :P
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Fuck the RIAA. I'm still gonna download everything I can get my hands on and I'll spit in their stupid faces if I ever get caught. They made me spend too much of my hard earned money on shit with their nazi-like regime.
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You mean now artists will be forced to release original material? It's the end of hip-hop. (no I don't actually feel this way so don't start bitchin')
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fuck mixtapes, most of them are bullshit anyways, wow a new drama mixtape with half ass slim thug material or whoever else is on it
fuck that instead of sittin back lazy and doin (almost) nothing maybe this will stimulate rappers ot make better products (read: cd's) and start makin quality again ::)
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I was never into mixtapes either with the exception of a few.
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see, im willing to bet my ass on it that almost anyone on this forum just downloads mixtapes and dont buy them, so what you complaining about anyways, you have no right to say fuck the riaa if you never bought mixtapes anyways....
im with the riaa on this one, cause artists are jackin beats made by producers who spend time and money on it, and then just dont give them credit or any money for it, its just legitimate stealing....fuck that, a producer should get the credit he deserved and his music be respected...
thats my opinion though....*street albums* are different, theyre made of almost all new beats and stuff, like institunialized by ras kass, or street status by stat quo, those arem ixtapes but with original music, so yeah i think they should make some exceptions too
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so yeah i think they should make some exceptions too
well of course.... theres A LOT of specifics that will have to be sorted out legally before more rappers/dj's get sued... or before producers start suing
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I don't feel like quoting peoples shit so Imma speak in General.
#1..I can't believe some of you.
#2..Okay, the East Coast IS mixtapes. It's complete opposite than the west coast when it comes to new hype...As in M.C's...I think anyways, however, no I don't know how shit goes down in the west. I don't know how shit goes down in the South but in the east the mixtapes play a huge role in unsigned hype. I don't understand how it should 'go back to like it was in the old days wit the good old hype'. IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS MC'S WOULD MAKE RECORDS, THROW THEM ON A CD AND SELL THEM, IN THE STREETS, FOR THE STREETS AND IT WOULD CAUSE A HYPE. 'Oh, shit, this nigga is pretty tight' type of things. THEY WOULD MAKE TRACKS WIT THE DJ'S AND CREATE THEY BUZZ. If you know hip hop, mixtapes HAVE and DO play a major part in this CULTURE!
#3..FUCK hip hop. The streets is what made it. The mixtapes are the streets. I mean, I can't even comprehend the fact that people say shit about how mixtapes ain't nothing. I can't even comprehend my own arguments becuz I'm so frustrated.
#4..Mixtapes hold A KEY to one element that we still have in Hip Hop, which is the DJ. Today in this shit we only hear about DJ's when it comes to mixtapes. Taking away mixtapes is taking away another element our CULTURE still has.
#5..HELLOOO I have finally seen what I've been tryin' to ignore...Hip Hop ONLY CARES ABOUT CASH, MONEY, DINERO, THE DOLLAR, BUCKS, PESOS ETC. Hip hop ain't nuthin' but money hungry muthafuckas. It ain't a culture no more. Everythang is about legal shit and the dough. Fuck it.
There is so much to fuckin' talk about but I ain't gonna say no more shit. I'm not tryin' to disrespect people, I'm just being real.
And yes I'm catching feelings, I'm pissed. FUCK THE RIAA! They ARE taking away hip hop.
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From Wikipedia:
In the 1970s, such DJs as Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Afrika Bambaataa and the Soulsonic Force, Kool Herc and the Herculoids, DJ Breakout, the Funky Four, and DJ Hollywood would often distribute recordings of their club performances via audio cassette, as well as customized recordings (often prepared at exorbitant prices) for individual tape purchasers.
The mixtape format is becoming increasingly popular as a way of generating hype for hip hop artists. Often each track on a promotional hip hop mixtape will feature the same artist, thus making it more difficult to differentiate from the definition of a standard album. However, these mixtapes will usually have much lower production values than a studio album, and contain numerous collaborations, remixes, freestyles and voice-overs, often not arranged in a specific fashion.
Hip hop mixtapes are usually sold on the street or through independent record dealers or mail order, mainly relying on word of mouth to increase the artist's street credibility. An unsigned artist might release several mixtapes to generate buzz, leading to interest from record labels, while a signed artist may release a mixtape to promote a future studio album.
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And yes I'm catching feelings, I'm pissed. FUCK THE RIAA! They ARE taking away hip hop.
I bet people were saying the same when authorities put an end to free sampling. ;)
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it's really more of a problem for dj's than rappers, but actually turns into a thorn in a rappers shoe and here's why; most dj's will now begin to act scary and tell rappers they're no longer doin tapes out of a fugazi fear. First of all, none of our local west coast dj's are, have, or are about to be doin as big as drama was. dude was eatin fa real. Whats takin place is a greed factor. we need these dj's to man up. So what if you can't sell'um no more, yall never did'um fa free anyway. So let's get bacc to the essence of artist promotion. mixtapes can still be used in that manner. dj skee mastered this art form. jus think, a dj with a name can charge an artist atleast $3500 to orchestrate a mixtape, cosign and promote. the goal aint for the artist to eat off the tape its for exposure and is a platform for an artist to build an underground/mainstream fan base. so give'um away for free and promote'um on yall numberous sirus sat. radio shows and let the buzz begin. dont destroy the whole mixtape game cuzz yall can't sell the tapes in yall stores no more, jus promote'um and give'um away; gettin paid for your services should be enough. Moviiin!!!
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Why is the RIAA doing this if the artists are consenting to make these mixtapes?
Maybe cause they're using other people's beats most of the time ?
yes that's the main reason I think
this sucks. but it aint nuthin wrong with using original beats. its even more interesting to me
i guess thats the reason
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im not much into mixtapes
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Damn, we're gonna be afraid to even bump the music we buy one day.
My first thought's exactly...
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the mixtape-industry they're aiming at is not the mixtapes of up-and-coming artist putting out their own shit, but the million dollar mixtape industry the major DJ's are running... Drama can't go around bragging about selling a million mixtapes and expect the labels (who OWNS much of the materiale used on mixtape, esp. beats) and artists (who often doesn't get a dime, Lil' Wayne commented on this in some interview) to let it slide... fact is that mixtapes is taking away a biiig share of music market, and when they're bending the rules, they're bound to get fucked.
And the mixtape-game we see in todays hip-hop got nothing to do with the good old running-your-tapes-out-yo-trunk-business, most of the time it's not even original beats on it, but when it is, I don't see the problem in labeling the "mixtape" as a demo or a street-album, if your label won't let you release them, fuck it, you shouldn't have signed the contract if you're so damn eager to get your half-assed material out on the streets.
let me be the first to say "Fuck mixtapes", it's ruining more than it's creating... some up-and-comers push out so many tapes that when their albums finally drop, people are tired of them... Whatever happened to good' ol' hype? Snoop didn't need 100 mixtapes to become a star, neither did Jigga, Nas, Biggie, 2pac+++ They got their hype from guest-appearances, word on the streets, affiliation etc. When was the last time an album came that you were just dying to hear? I can't remember the last time I felt like that, because they all push their leftovers out on the streets a year before the album is finished, and i'm sick of it..
Blah, it's 6 in the morning, i'm tired and annoyed, so alot of that prolly didn't make any sense :P
^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!
...and thats a wrap! The debate ends with that one post. Im not saying fuck mixtapes but hes right on in saying that todays mixtape scene aint NOTHING like the old days when they used to make REAL MIXTAPES. All this industry did was bite then name but it aint no where near the same. Put a fork in it yall! If you look at it another way, this may help the recording industry by forcing fans to purchase REAL RELEASED albums (which would help album sales over all) rather then wasting money on bullshit mixtapes.
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^ It won't force fans to buy shit.
They download them. Right?
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Imagine if it was Against the law for any DJ to say anything that will ruin the integrity of the track...
in other word's, The RIAA should be going after these mixtapes with the yelling no talent Dj's screaming exclusive. ;)
nah...
for real tho, Fuck the RIAA
Mixtapes will always be here in some form or another.
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psh, IMO nowadays mixtapes were just an lazy easy way for some people to make a quik buck on mediocre half assed music. Don't get me wrong, there has been some bangin ass mixtapes released, but for the most part 80% suck, 10% are decent, and 10% are bangin.
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psh, IMO nowadays mixtapes were just an lazy easy way for some people to make a quik buck on mediocre half assed music. Don't get me wrong, there has been some bangin ass mixtapes released, but for the most part 80% suck, 10% are decent, and 10% are bangin.
thats exactly what it is,
IMO im tired of those fuckin drama, whoo kid and w/e other dj who puts out whole mixtape series where people spend htier money on with 90% jacked beats and those dj's makin all hte money of it for themselves...fuck that its not what its about
the RIAA got it right, mixtapes should only be put out as a promoting tool or for up and coming rappers, fuck all this rich rappers makin more money of it
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This move right here cuts the balls offa rap and the sambos in here are championing it? WTF is going on these days?
Think of how many excellent joints you'd never hear if it wasn't for the mixtapes, they gave you a chance to hear something that was never intended for retail - Raw and undiluted.
Loads of wack artists have had dope beats, enter the mixtape to even the odds when it gets ganked by someone who can rip it.
Hip hop isn't dead but they sure are killing it slowly.
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Hip Hop Is Dead. :(.
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what the fuck, i was waiting to get another copy of crazy toones until the takeover came out. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
what aresome sites out there besides hiphopwest and mixunit?
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Mixtapes R gone.............???
Not a big mixtape fan, but damn,
What the fuck is up wit that? ??? ???
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Rap isn't what it is nowadays. When it becomes so commercial, it has to give up some of its underground elements.
You guys are exagerrating some of this stuff. Mixtapes aren't going away, just the ones that are being sold as an 'unofficial album'.
Mixtapes have serious copyright and publishing violations. The sad thing is that we've came up and now we are owning our own publishing and now that's getting stolen by our own people.
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You guys are exagerrating some of this stuff. Mixtapes aren't going away, just the ones that are being sold as an 'unofficial album'.
But go look at Mixunit.com (http://Mixunit.com), it turns your stomach.
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why would free shit turn your stomach? i guess i didn't see the site before...-T
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^ The website is empty.
Plus you can't buy them. So those 'free streaming new mixtapes' you can only listen to on the computer. And it'll be the 'hottest new mixtapes' releases they'll be playing.
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Do you think it's right for someone to take someone's beat and song concept and make a profit off of it?
You know, in other genre's of music, they call it 'cover'. If a garage band covers a popular group's song, they shouldn't be able to market it out and sell it as a 'mixtape'. Covering is fine, to perform. They sell sheet music for most songs anyways. But when you're doing voiceovers on a track that you had nothing to do with, then you shouldn't be able to make a financial profit off it..
This has nothing to do with someone creating a demo or 'covering' a song and releasing it to gain exposure. Everyone does it, not just rappers.
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Come on, it's a beat, for a mixtape. It's not an actual songgg.
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and lots of rock bands make money off covers, and covers are often in albums.
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pretty soon they are gonna stop manufacturing CD's, the future of music is going Digital I just read somewhere that legal single downloads are selling in the millions
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8 Tracks to Cassettes to Cd Players to I Pods to who knows what next.
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8 Tracks to Cassettes to Cd Players to I Pods to who knows what next.
just smaller IPods, what else can there be? liquid?
-T
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got my Ipod Nano, I gotta ride the train to work every morning to NYC so this shit is genius whoever invented it