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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on February 08, 2007, 09:03:41 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_poeloXyDmA
PROP ME....
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I'll watch the video, but I will not be proppin you.
j/k I propped you.
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You beat me to it. Man if you in Dipset and you ain't Cam what do you do?
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That shit was hilarious, lambo part had me rollin.
Singing on a diss track ???
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You beat me to it. Man if you in Dipset and you ain't Cam what do you do?
You gotta diss him. He said "I'm not goin' to destroy dipset" that's a diss to me.
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'im not gonna destroy dipset..'
'from now on jimmy's the boss, and juelz is the capo'
sounds like he's only going at Cam, doesn't care about the rest
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I can't wait for Cam to respond.
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props, this is pretty good. Nice video.
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A few of my observations:
1) Wow that was horrible.
2) Cam must have really affected him to get him to not only record a song, but shoot a vid as well.
3) He's really nervous about Buck's album flopping because he's trying to promote along with this song. He didn't do this for Banks or Yayo.
4) The hook was god awful. How can he hear that and think it's not corny as shit?
5) The beat wasn't bad.
6) He's obviously trying to cause friction amonst the Dips basically calling Jimmy the Don and Juelz Capo. I don't think it's gonna work.
7) I'm ready to hear Cam over a Heatmakerz beat with retaliation.
8) I'm ready to see Jimmy on Youtube responding. This will be fun.
btw, is there any chance that Jimmy and Juelz stay neutral?
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A few of my observations:
1) Wow that was horrible.
2) Cam must have really affected him to get him to not only record a song, but shoot a vid as well.
3) He's really nervous about Buck's album flopping because he's trying to promote along with this song. He didn't do this for Banks or Yayo.
4) The hook was god awful. How can he hear that and think it's not corny as shit?
5) The beat wasn't bad.
6) He's obviously trying to cause friction amonst the Dips basically calling Jimmy the Don and Juelz Capo. I don't think it's gonna work.
7) I'm ready to hear Cam over a Heatmakerz beat with retaliation.
8) I'm ready to see Jimmy on Youtube responding. This will be fun.
btw, is there any chance that Jimmy and Juelz stay neutral?
That is a good question. Cam put the crew in a bad, bad spot right now. Like I said 50 plays by a different set of rules. Bad diss or good diss.
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A few of my observations:
1) Wow that was horrible.
2) Cam must have really affected him to get him to not only record a song, but shoot a vid as well.
3) He's really nervous about Buck's album flopping because he's trying to promote along with this song. He didn't do this for Banks or Yayo.
4) The hook was god awful. How can he hear that and think it's not corny as shit?
5) The beat wasn't bad.
6) He's obviously trying to cause friction amonst the Dips basically calling Jimmy the Don and Juelz Capo. I don't think it's gonna work.
7) I'm ready to hear Cam over a Heatmakerz beat with retaliation.
8) I'm ready to see Jimmy on Youtube responding. This will be fun.
btw, is there any chance that Jimmy and Juelz stay neutral?
LOL...that's the same way I feel. I don't see how they could stay neutral, he dissed them by saying "I'm not gonna destroy dipset".
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Typical G-Unit hating. Be original people. Seeing that he wrote the song and made the video within one or two days its not bad. Game took 6 months to write 300 bars and that was some awful stuff. If your going to write bad disses, at least don't spend a lot of time on it.
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Typical G-Unit hating. Be original people. Seeing that he wrote the song and made the video within one or two days its not bad. Game took 6 months to write 300 bars and that was some awful stuff. If your going to write bad disses, at least don't spend a lot of time on it.
Typical G-Unit dick riding. Defending 50 to death. You'd take a bullet for 50 huh?
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Typical G-Unit hating. Be original people. Seeing that he wrote the song and made the video within one or two days its not bad. Game took 6 months to write 300 bars and that was some awful stuff. If your going to write bad disses, at least don't spend a lot of time on it.
Typical G-Unit dick riding. Defending 50 to death. You'd take a bullet for 50 huh?
Lol +1
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lol for real this is nice compared to what camron said on radio to 50 ...
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Typical G-Unit hating. Be original people. Seeing that he wrote the song and made the video within one or two days its not bad. Game took 6 months to write 300 bars and that was some awful stuff. If your going to write bad disses, at least don't spend a lot of time on it.
Typical G-Unit dick riding. Defending 50 to death. You'd take a bullet for 50 huh?
Lol +1
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
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After watching it - I'm cofused.
First of all, the song is fuckin garbage.
I appreciate the ladies in the video, but they had nothing to do with the song
This nigga filmed a video in his garage, like a typical youtube user?
Lol ahh well. This beef should be amusing.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH What the Fuck?? That was putrid!! HAHAHA, Cam is gona fuckin destroy this wanksta, I cant wait to hear Killa respond! This track was pathetic, LOL at the hook HAHAH
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Wow this is going to get really interesting as it pans out. I really wonder what will happen. Cameron (lol) has put his crew in a real tough spot. Jimmy went public and said there is no beef what-so-ever. I personally feel Jimmy relaized what could come off of this and is prolly nervous...he is content right now eating off of ballin and is now thrust in conflict...
what do you do if your Jim Jones? Go hard on 50 with Cam, like he did at Jay-Z ? Stay neutral?
50 cent seems to playing this one real smart and even tho I hated his bitch ass for a real long time he being sneaky with this and making me pay attention to his moves...
anyways speak on it, i'd love to hear y'all opinions
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
All fans are not dickriders, you on the other hand are.
Defending G-Unit every chance you have = Dickrider
Bringing up Game when he has nothing to do with the conversation = Dickrider
Callin' people G-Unit haters cus they don't like a G-Unit song = Dickrider
Get it?
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
All fans are not dickriders, you on the other hand are.
Defending G-Unit every chance you have = Dickrider
Bringing up Game when he has nothing to do with the conversation = Dickrider
Callin' people G-Unit hatesr cus they don't like a G-Unit song = Dickrider
Get it?
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6628/kobethumbsuptg2.gif)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH What the Fuck?? That was putrid!! HAHAHA, Cam is gona fuckin destroy this wanksta, I cant wait to hear Killa respond! This track was pathetic, LOL at the hook HAHAH
+1 for using the word putrid in a real life conversation.
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
All fans are not dickriders, you on the other hand are.
Defending G-Unit every chance you have = Dickrider
Bring up Game when he has nothing to do with the conversation = Dickrider
Callin' people G-Unit hater cus they don't like a wack G-Unit song = Dickrider
Get it?
Listen junior. I defend artists I like. So do you. Whenever I diss Game, I get reply after replay of Game fans crying. When someone disses 50, no one says shit. Only 50 Cent fans get dissed on these forums. No one ever says anything when people dick ride Dipset, Game or Snoop. But when someone likes 50. Oh my! Thats crazy! Get it? Good.
The majority of the forum hates on 50, I feel as a fan I should try and defend him. Everyone dickrides artist. Look at all these kids with dipset in their sigs.
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
All fans are not dickriders, you on the other hand are.
Defending G-Unit every chance you have = Dickrider
Bringing up Game when he has nothing to do with the conversation = Dickrider
Callin' people G-Unit hatesr cus they don't like a G-Unit song = Dickrider
Get it?
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6628/kobethumbsuptg2.gif)
LOL...Ya feel me?
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
All fans are not dickriders, you on the other hand are.
Defending G-Unit every chance you have = Dickrider
Bringing up Game when he has nothing to do with the conversation = Dickrider
Callin' people G-Unit hatesr cus they don't like a G-Unit song = Dickrider
Get it?
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6628/kobethumbsuptg2.gif)
LOL...Ya feel me?
CUUUUURRRRRTIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Where do you draw the line between fan and dickrider? Its a pretty sad way looking at music if the fans of artists you don't like are all dickriders.
All fans are not dickriders, you on the other hand are.
Defending G-Unit every chance you have = Dickrider
Bring up Game when he has nothing to do with the conversation = Dickrider
Callin' people G-Unit hater cus they don't like a wack G-Unit song = Dickrider
Get it?
Listen junior. I defend artists I like. So do you. Whenever I diss Game, I get reply after replay of Game fans crying. When someone disses 50, no one says shit. Only 50 Cent fans get dissed on these forums. No one ever says anything when people dick ride Dipset, Game or Snoop. But when someone likes 50. Oh my! Thats crazy! Get it? Good.
The majority of the forum hates on 50, I feel as a fan I should try and defend him.
Homie if someone even thinks about Dipset on this forum they get banned. People don't hate 50 or 50 fans on this board we hate dickriders. GangstaBoogy is a 50 Cent fan and I don't hate him, you know why cus he doesn't dickride 50. I understand defending an artist you like but you doin too much. I've seen a lot of your post and you show alot of symptoms of a dickrider. Look at your post, your making excuses for 50."he wrote the song and made the video within one or two days" homie if a song sucks it sucks, deal with it.
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lol for real this is nice compared to what camron said on radio to 50 ...
CUUUUURRRRRTIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>>>>>>This diss
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its going dooooooooown
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Nothing amazing it was cool though, lol @ the end when he was making fun of Cam's style, he had some good points too, Juelz and Jimmy have been having alot more sucess with singles than Cam
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Typical G-Unit hating. Be original people. Seeing that he wrote the song and made the video within one or two days its not bad. Game took 6 months to write 300 bars and that was some awful stuff. If your going to write bad disses, at least don't spend a lot of time on it.
you mad doggie?
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Just so everyone knows...when you see 50 shooting that Sig-Sauer assault rifle at the range, that shit is fake, I think airsoft or something. Using fake guns in your video and pretending theyre real = not gangsta.
2) Cam must have really affected him to get him to not only record a song, but shoot a vid as well.
That, or 50 has an album coming out he needs to promote. And we all know how 50 promotes shit.
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LMFAO @ RIK ;D ;D ;D
"you show alot of symptons of a dick rider"
and i'm feelin this track, lookin forward to Cam's reply...
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i wont front that was pretty tight song and a well made cheap ass video. cam better come with some ridiculoso propane piffery and a a mini 'killa season' if he wants to outdo 50's monkey ass
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Hmm, pretty obvious what's 50 try to do here; Create some confusion within Dipset. Wont happen though. 50'll never cause a break in Dipset.
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jay-z's diss is pretty damn weak compared to this :o
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That was pretty cool IMO.
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not bad, but I wanna see Cam's response
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50 is a sneaky bastard. He probably predicted this 3 months ago, when he started dissing Koch. And now hes trying to basically cause tention between Dipset memebers.
What I like about the video and some lyrics that it looks like hes going back to that agressive side again. What I dont like is his another "this aint a diss, this are warning shots" records. The song is nothing special, mixtape shit, like that Puffy joint.
Its all a 2nd fase in promotion though. 50 wanted a beef and he got one.
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Cam gave him a avenue to do that record. He was talking reckless on the radio and it was mad funny, but that line that 50 used about chess not checkers applies here. It is going to be interesting to see what happens now.
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50 got the internet going nuts, every forum I go theres topics about this shit.
Suprisingly everyone is taking 50s side (for now), even Dipset fans are like "I like Dipset but this is funny". Considering this track aint THAT special :-\
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fuck the song, I don't like it, and I'm not such a Dipset fan ! Although I hope Dipset erase this muthaphucka !
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Cam gave him a avenue to do that record. He was talking reckless on the radio and it was mad funny, but that line that 50 used about chess not checkers applies here. It is going to be interesting to see what happens now.
Its divide and cnquer tactis right now. Hes trying to cause beef in the Dispet group by saying all that good shit about Jimmy and Juelz and clowning Cam.
BTW the beat is produced by the same dude who produced What Up Blood and the beat was a leftover from his new album.
MP3 of it: http://download.yousendit.com/B3F45847339DC68F
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Cam gave him a avenue to do that record. He was talking reckless on the radio and it was mad funny, but that line that 50 used about chess not checkers applies here. It is going to be interesting to see what happens now.
Its divide and cnquer tactis right now. Hes trying to cause beef in the Dispet group by saying all that good shit about Jimmy and Juelz and clowning Cam.
BTW the beat is produced by the same dude who produced What Up Blood and the beat was a leftover from his new album.
Yeah that was a interesting move 50 did. But I think Jim and Juelz understand what it is, Cam is the one that has to decide whether he wants to respsond or not and if it is just Cam vs 50 or the whole crew.
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my guess is dipset will get involved. it shouldn't matter 50 shows jimmy respect, they're a crew, diss one you diss em all..
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50 is smart...
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The CURTISSSSSSSS thing was funny but props to fifty I liked this song its a good one, looking forward to the response :)
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my guess is dipset will get involved. it shouldn't matter 50 shows jimmy respect, they're a crew, diss one you diss em all..
True. I think Jim and Juelz tried to squash this before it got to this point but 50 went there. It puts them in a bad spot right now.
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Hmm, so much red!?1 I thought that fiddy was more into crippin, well anyway the video is entertaining, especially the scene where Camron getting drive by:ed. Hope this Gay-Unit VS Dipshit beef will become big.
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50 is a sneaky bastard. He probably predicted this 3 months ago, when he started dissing Koch. And now hes trying to basically cause tention between Dipset memebers.
What I like about the video and some lyrics that it looks like hes going back to that agressive side again. What I dont like is his another "this aint a diss, this are warning shots" records. The song is nothing special, mixtape shit, like that Puffy joint.
Its all a 2nd fase in promotion though. 50 wanted a beef and he got one.
Spot on, dude. I think this is just one phase of Fif's plan. He has to have more up his sleeve than this. Well, my thoughts:
* I don't know shit about gangs, but all those dudes in bandanas looked mad corny. All I could think about watching this was Jada's "Checkmate": "Never the King of New York - you live in Conneticut!"
* Hook was unnecessary, to say the least.
* As I said, I think this is 50's attempt to lure out Dipset. He wants that friction. That said, I can't believe he stooped to suggesting that Cam tried to "sabotage" Jim. Come on, man.
* 50 is obviously pissed off after the whole Hot 97 mess. Hell, who wouldn't? He probably steps outside his mansion and has seven year old kids shouting "CUUUURRRRRRTTTTTTIIIIIISSSSS" at him.
* I love 50's more aggressive music, but something about this just came off as...fake. Maybe this shit would sound better without the cheap visual.
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Am I the only person who can actually enjoy 50 and Game at the same time? Wow some people are gay I swear. :camp:
Anyways stylish song, funny video, as I would expect from 50. That Buck line is hella sassy 8)
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This is definitely entertaining. Game, 50 , Dipset, Roc.
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interesting 8)
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lmao funny video!
50 cent > cam'ron
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Not no classic diss, but I'm feelin it. It was funny, how could you not laugh at that cheesy clip of Cam's Lambo gettin shot up? 50 went str8 underground here, nigga took a camera, went to the crib, shot a video. LOL
Rap beef is so overdone and played out now I can never see myself getting too much hyped about any diss tracks anymore, but this beef should be comical.
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Cam is gona slaughter 50, just listen to Hate Me Now pt2 when he destroyed Nasir, this will be no different,
Hell Rell > G-Unit
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Cam is gona slaughter 50, just listen to Hate Me Now pt2 when he destroyed Nasir, this will be no different,
Hell Rell > G-Unit
Can u Hook that up, i been searchin for it for ages
Songs ok, usual 50 diss but the vids corny wiv all of the fake guns and thugs, however i do like the way 50's gettin at cam cos now if cam replies then juelz and jimmy will have to reply or at least speak on it.....and if they aren't backin cam then obviously theres gonna b friction and dipset will be dug deep in a hole.....
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Cam'Ron : Hate Me Now pt 2 http://download.yousendit.com/A2343E9205FED30E
"your career is over like Mike, anyone, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson"
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Cam is gona slaughter 50, just listen to Hate Me Now pt2 when he destroyed Nasir, this will be no different,
Hell Rell > G-Unit
So you think Dipset is gonna jump into this?
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Cam'Ron : Hate Me Now pt 2 http://download.yousendit.com/A2343E9205FED30E
"your career is over like Mike, anyone, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson"
Major props!! I'd props u if i cud...
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Cam is gona slaughter 50, just listen to Hate Me Now pt2 when he destroyed Nasir, this will be no different,
Hell Rell > G-Unit
So you think Dipset is gonna jump into this?
Im sure 40 Cal, Hell Rell, and J.R. Writer will say something, not sure about Jimmy and Juelz though.
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Cam'Ron : Hate Me Now pt 2 http://download.yousendit.com/A2343E9205FED30E
"your career is over like Mike, anyone, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson"
Major props!! I'd props u if i cud...
Its all good homie, the only version I have is the tagged version though :'(
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Cam is gona slaughter 50, just listen to Hate Me Now pt2 when he destroyed Nasir, this will be no different,
Hell Rell > G-Unit
So you think Dipset is gonna jump into this?
Im sure 40 Cal, Hell Rell, and J.R. Writer will say something, not sure about Jimmy and Juelz though.
Hell if that many in the crew jump in, Jimmy and Juelz might as well also.
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Fuck DJ Kay Slay yelling over the beat like he's a factor in anything
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Cam gave him a avenue to do that record. He was talking reckless on the radio and it was mad funny, but that line that 50 used about chess not checkers applies here. It is going to be interesting to see what happens now.
Its divide and cnquer tactis right now. Hes trying to cause beef in the Dispet group by saying all that good shit about Jimmy and Juelz and clowning Cam.
BTW the beat is produced by the same dude who produced What Up Blood and the beat was a leftover from his new album.
MP3 of it: http://download.yousendit.com/B3F45847339DC68F
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gotta agree with you Timbo. But if Cam is smart he ralllies his Troops and goes at him Solo. bring in the rest when needed. if the response is smart enough 50 WILL lose. the cheap video is to CON people into thinking that 50 is the same 50 from the Underground days, he's not and he knows it.
Styles told him that.
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That was some grown man shit. 50 Cent GOAT
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i like it.
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Track was cool 8)
Let's see how Cam responds.......
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I was waiting for this beef to happend.
Unevidable.
I'm looking forward to Dipset's response. No way Jimmy, Juelz or the rest of the Dips should stay neutral.
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Lol at those who get emotional... each time before his album dropped , 50 has been doing this kind of move.. on the other side rappers take it personnally , fans too and 50 is laughing when he see his album going platinum in one week...
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Chea the beef is finally here :D
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he shot a video from his HOUSE!!!!! LOL!!! TRYING TO BE GANGSTA FROM HIS MANISON!!! GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE 50!!
Wow that was pathetic. :-X
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Cam'Ron : Hate Me Now pt 2 http://download.yousendit.com/A2343E9205FED30E
"your career is over like Mike, anyone, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson"
Yeah but come on man he stole that line from biggie :) hear that shit from his own mouth here....
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OTD9K4QU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OTD9K4QU)
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The beat was cool & I like the part where 50 goes about Cam being demoted to soldier & Jimmy being the new boss, that was funny.I also like every part wit the bitches 8) Other than that it was weak.CUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRTTTTTTTIIIIIIISSSSSSS>this vid & song.
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if this was real beef dips wouldnt be looking at the lyrical content..theyd be lookn @ some of those hench guns..i mean dips made some dough but its not 50 cent money..the message i got from this video was "im a boss..its nothin to have someone mask up an heat up..while im tourin in europe"...dips would be alot easier to find to carry out a hit...gotta say it had a hard overall impact..and im not a big 50 fan actually thing game styles & jada all smashed um...
but you know what..ill go on the line and say this beef will re-ignite gunit for say another two years...50 got too much behinds the scenes clout and too much to lose not to win this one..
i could see him tryna sign dips minus Cam...LOL
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Man as much money he spent for that house I would do some videos there too. Shit it's cheaper. I think this is good as crew vs crew in due time.
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Fif is killing 'em son. He's just a live ass nigga, the Dips can't fuck with dude period...ROFL at G-Unit sending Hot97 an obituary for Cameron Giles: Average Rapper lol. I was lucky enough to hear the whole thing go down live on the radio this morning at the job. Work was at a stand still when they premiered the track, imagine like 11 heads crowded around one tiny ass boom box tryna hear this dude spit!
But 50 & Cam are both cool, 50's just got more money & power. I just hope some nice diss records come outta this.
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Fif is killing 'em son. He's just a live ass nigga, the Dips can't fuck with dude period...ROFL at G-Unit sending Hot97 an obituary for Cameron Giles: Average Rapper lol. I was lucky enough to hear the whole thing go down live on the radio this morning at the job. Work was at a stand still when they premiered the track, imagine like 11 heads crowded around one tiny ass boom box tryna hear this dude spit!
But 50 & Cam are both cool, 50's just got more money & power. I just hope some nice diss records come outta this.
What else did 50 say on the radio ? Any news on the album ?
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that was fuckin dope!!!!
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Does anyone see an obvious pattern here?
right before his first record came out it was about his Beef with Ja Rule and Murder Inc.
right before his second album it was about his beef with Nas, Jada, Fat Joe etc...
can he successfully promote an ablum without Beef?
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Does anyone see an obvious pattern here?
right before his first record came out it was about his Beef with Ja Rule and Murder Inc.
right before his second album it was about his beef with Nas, Jada, Fat Joe etc...
can he successfully promote an ablum without Beef?
can any rapper promote an album without beef?
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LOL
Once upon a time, in a Galaxy far far away...
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LOL
Once upon a time, in a Galaxy far far away...
lol even MC Hammer had beef with Kool Moe Dee when he released his album..
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damn i thought that was a dope diss track, cant wait for cams response.
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Game, 50 , Dipset, Roc.-d-nice, why list these?
i could see him tryna sign dips minus Cam...LOL-ROFLMMFAO
Now, my thoughts:
* The beat is absolute fire. Who's the producer (name?)?
* i like the hook, the lyrics are doo/mediocre, but the hook is catchy, honestly I only like about 1/3 to 1/5 of the 50 hooks I hear and this one works. You can tell he put all of his hookery talent into this hook, he really tried to make a catchy sweet sounding hook to diss with.
Without the beat this diss would be garbage. This is a testament to that producer's dopeness.
and check it out people who get mad at 50 getting hate/you getting hate for loving 50: Not only are you on a west coast forum, but it's the following. It's not that 50 is the whackest, it's that he gets Dre beats that artists that we like should be getting. Kurupt deserves this beat, not 50. But Iovine hasn't cared since 1999 so we're all subject to the corporate collaborations of 50 and Iovine raping Dr.Dre's vaults. That's it, I hate 50 because Dre produces him when I'd rather Dre produce doper acts/west coast acts/acts I like/acts that helped Dre make the classics his career is bult on that never got that contribution expouned upon. 50 is a disgrace to art and distraction from rea creativity. People like to say Game just has good people around him and that's why his records sound good. for one thing, 50 just has good people around him and alot of his records DON'T fuckin sound good, they're pop shit. emphasis on both sylabbles POP....SHIT. He's the reason so many people outside of hip hop don't respect the genre cause his shit is so watered down and dumb. He has done damage to the art, to the game, to hip hop.
50 can come lyrically, he chooses not to...so he ain't for me. Why should we pay for someone to be a half ass? FUCK that.
anyway, I'm finally gonna have to listen to Camron spit a verse if someone's claiming he ripped Nas...
.so this isn't a single for 50's album?
also, someone said it took him 3 days...didn't that hot 97 shit happen like a week ago now? 50's had some time to take a left over track, spit some garbage, sing pretty and film some bitches no problem.
Rappers look like little spoiled boys with all the dumb shit they fill their nice houses with. "yeah i'm aget these niggaz with guns and motorcyles just bouncing with bandanas in th garage it'll be gangsta as fuck!" dumb asses. That's why Dre's my favorite hip hop artist, he never claimed to be a gangster (the chronic is clearly artistic role playing, satire and all kinds of other brilliant shit. N.W.A is protest music (similar in nature to the chronic, not claiming to be a gansgter so much as representing an archetype in art) and he never was a gangster. He was a brilliant dude who decided to stick to music from the get go despite growing up in the hood ass hood, and now that hes out he doesn't try to act like he's dumb with guns and quads in the house, he dresses like a respectable professional motherfucker.
blah, 50's lack of taste bothers me.
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Game, 50 , Dipset, Roc.-d-nice, why list these?
i could see him tryna sign dips minus Cam...LOL-ROFLMMFAO
Now, my thoughts:
* The beat is absolute fire. Who's the producer (name?)?
* i like the hook, the lyrics are doo/mediocre, but the hook is catchy, honestly I only like about 1/3 to 1/5 of the 50 hooks I hear and this one works. You can tell he put all of his hookery talent into this hook, he really tried to make a catchy sweet sounding hook to diss with.
Without the beat this diss would be garbage. This is a testament to that producer's dopeness.
and check it out people who get mad at 50 getting hate/you getting hate for loving 50: Not only are you on a west coast forum, but it's the following. It's not that 50 is the whackest, it's that he gets Dre beats that artists that we like should be getting. Kurupt deserves this beat, not 50. But Iovine hasn't cared since 1999 so we're all subject to the corporate collaborations of 50 and Iovine raping Dr.Dre's vaults. That's it, I hate 50 because Dre produces him when I'd rather Dre produce doper acts/west coast acts/acts I like/acts that helped Dre make the classics his career is bult on that never got that contribution expouned upon. 50 is a disgrace to art and distraction from rea creativity. People like to say Game just has good people around him and that's why his records sound good. for one thing, 50 just has good people around him and alot of his records DON'T fuckin sound good, they're pop shit. emphasis on both sylabbles POP....SHIT. He's the reason so many people outside of hip hop don't respect the genre cause his shit is so watered down and dumb. He has done damage to the art, to the game, to hip hop.
50 can come lyrically, he chooses not to...so he ain't for me. Why should we pay for someone to be a half ass? FUCK that.
anyway, I'm finally gonna have to listen to Camron spit a verse if someone's claiming he ripped Nas...
.so this isn't a single for 50's album?
also, someone said it took him 3 days...didn't that hot 97 shit happen like a week ago now? 50's had some time to take a left over track, spit some garbage, sing pretty and film some bitches no problem.
Rappers look like little spoiled boys with all the dumb shit they fill their nice houses with. "yeah i'm aget these niggaz with guns and motorcyles just bouncing with bandanas in th garage it'll be gangsta as fuck!" dumb asses. That's why Dre's my favorite hip hop artist, he never claimed to be a gangster (the chronic is clearly artistic role playing, satire and all kinds of other brilliant shit. N.W.A is protest music (similar in nature to the chronic, not claiming to be a gansgter so much as representing an archetype in art) and he never was a gangster. He was a brilliant dude who decided to stick to music from the get go despite growing up in the hood ass hood, and now that hes out he doesn't try to act like he's dumb with guns and quads in the house, he dresses like a respectable professional motherfucker.
blah, 50's lack of taste bothers me.
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I just mentioned some of the people that have been beefing lately and the ones that entertain me. This shit is funny as fuck.
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I dont really listen to 50 cent but man i dont know how you guys can hate on this? this video is pure comedy and it's gangstas as hell.......in fact this video made me want to listen to some 50 cent.....funny stuff
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I dont really listen to 50 cent but man i dont know how you guys cant hate on this? this video is pure comedy and it's gangstas as hell.......in fact this video made me want to listen to some 50 cent.....funny stuff
this song makes me want to get the instrumental version. can someone hook it up? DetoxisnotTimbo, you got that shit?
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the line about buck was hella funny
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the line about buck was hella funny
Yeah I'm sure buck doesn't appreciate that, i hate when motherfuckers draw the heat on me. that's how mac dre got caught up
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the video and song was cool and shit but i mean come on he did this shit in 3 days or so give the man his props.The hook sucked but the beat and lyrics were cool nothing great but just cool.I think when 50 said "im not gonna destroy dipset" thats a fucking diss to your entire crew homie and if the DIps dont do shit they are pussies.
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did he shout out Dogg Pound in the begging of the song?
don't what the fukk he was saying
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im with dipcc (no homo) but the video wasn't that bad, it was cool to see guns and half naked bitches with rap behind it, feel me? But cam needs to come back with a video shot in harlem, and just put 50 to rest. 8)
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the line about buck was hella funny
Yeah I'm sure buck doesn't appreciate that, i hate when motherfuckers draw the heat on me. that's how mac dre got caught up
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What are you talking about? I remember seeing a picture wiht buck wearing a knife on his tshirt or soemthing like that which basically symbolized that he stabbed the person lol....... what does this have to do with mac dre? mac dre got shot after the show on a highway.... i think because of some money problems or something like that......
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Not a big fan of 50 or dipset, but new beef is always entertaining!
But even to this day, i dont know what the fuck 50 is saying. I have to rewind the track, and just play that one bar over and over. Then MAYBE i will be able to understand what he is trying to tell me. When he is just talking, thats ok, but rapping, NO.
This song is no different, its like " bwha bwhah bwahha GUNS bwqhaha bwahah MY KNIFE bwahha DAPANN bwhha " and ill be like " did he just shot out to dogg pound?? " And i dont want to be a hater, but that is just a fact. Dude got shot in the mouth!
So why did Camron get so upset on the phone? I thought he was crying at one point.
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50 is insane
(http://i18.tinypic.com/400xth5.jpg)
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Hmmm, Jim and Cam have been partnas(no homo) for like 15 years, Cam gave Juelz his break and made him what he is 2day. Im sure 50 cent gona cause them 2 go against each other.
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50 on that checkers shit again
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50 is the master of promoting. He should do this kind of stuff more for his artists though.
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50 is the master of promoting. He should do this kind of stuff more for his artists though.
If you look at the last 3 years a lot of artist tried using the same tactics but failed to do so. 50 probably has a blueprint for this, that video came out surprisingly quick. Plus 50 aint your regular rapper. Hes one of a kind.
To quote him from Dont Front:
"Niggaz like me arent born every day. Im a special kind of nigga"
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50 is the master of promoting. He should do this kind of stuff more for his artists though.
If you look at the last 3 years a lot of artist tried using the same tactics but failed to do so. 50 probably has a blueprint for this, that video came out surprisingly quick. Plus 50 aint your regular rapper. Hes one of a kind.
To quote him from Dont Front:
"Niggaz like me arent born every day. Im a special kind of nigga"
LOL at all of this, give me a break
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^^ Hey its the truth. Just look at the stats for lets say last 3 years, how many rappers tried to use the same beef promotion but no one gave a flying fuck.
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^^ Hey its the truth. Just look at the stats for lets say last 3 years, how many rappers tried to use the same beef promotion but no one gave a flying fuck.
Dude, please stop. 50 didn't blow the fuck up because of beef. He blew the fuck up off one of the dopest Dre beats ever and he's been riding that success ever since. Remember Ghetto Quran? He dissed everybody in the fucking industry and gossiped like a motherfucker in that song and that sure as hell didn't equal album sales.
50 is nothing more than a fucking gimmick. He brings nothing to the table as an artist anymore. I don't understand how people don't see that.
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lol! These kind of topics always end up in Detox defending 50 to death, while the rest of dubcc keeps on hating!
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Man as much money he spent for that house I would do some videos there too. Shit it's cheaper. I think this is good as crew vs crew in due time.
nigga he lives in conneticut that house was 4.5 mill tops.
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^^ Hey its the truth. Just look at the stats for lets say last 3 years, how many rappers tried to use the same beef promotion but no one gave a flying fuck.
Dude, please stop. 50 didn't blow the fuck up because of beef. He blew the fuck up off one of the dopest Dre beats ever and he's been riding that success ever since. Remember Ghetto Quran? He dissed everybody in the fucking industry and gossiped like a motherfucker in that song and that sure as hell didn't equal album sales.
50 is nothing more than a fucking gimmick. He brings nothing to the table as an artist anymore. I don't understand how people don't see that.
You mean How To Rob right. That song got him crazy buzz but jeez you know, hmm, he was shot and almost died. Maybe but just maybe that had something with his buzz dying.
I see no point in discussing 50s music with you, we get nowhere. You hate him, I like him. The end.
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Timboisnotdetox:
in this thread you've said things like "50 has a blueprint" and "He's been planning this for 3 months"....last time I checked most of the dudes we discuss here didn't graduate fucking high school, I don't think 50 plans such things 3 months in advance nor I do think he takes time out to draft blueprints.
dude check it, noone's saying he has no talent, noone's saying him/g unit ain't gonna be succesful, all we're saying is
He brings nothing to the table as an artist anymore.
peace-T
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
I see what you're saying definitely. But I think what's setting up the current mentality on it is Massacre vs. DA for example you know? You can make good mainstream rap, and perhaps 50's new joint will bang and then such discussions as this will be different. and 50 IS the bully, or rather I'd say the problem, because perhaps if dre wasn't working with him dre would be blowing someone up that's really dope. For example, 50 will get alot of hate coming his way from me and alot of us if Bishop's shit gets delayed cause 50's joint will drop with like 3-7 dre tracks in the 3rd or 4th quarter you know? That would be a direct example of 50 fucking the game up.
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What is a rap artist's purpose?
To educate?
To make you dance?
To be your news reporter?
To be the person who lives the life that you obviously can't live anymore?
I think if we all ask ourself that question then we can understand what we appreciate.
50 cent isn't an teacher, he is not a news reporter, but he does make the women dance and lives the life that i'm jealous of lol. Appreciate him for what he is and only keep him to what he is.
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
I see what you're saying definitely. But I think what's setting up the current mentality on it is Massacre vs. DA for example you know? You can make good mainstream rap, and perhaps 50's new joint will bang and then such discussions as this will be different. and 50 IS the bully, or rather I'd say the problem, because perhaps if dre wasn't working with him dre would be blowing someone up that's really dope. For example, 50 will get alot of hate coming his way from me and alot of us if Bishop's shit gets delayed cause 50's joint will drop with like 3-7 dre tracks in the 3rd or 4th quarter you know? That would be a direct example of 50 fucking the game up.
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Jeez stop balming 50 for everything. Youre always bringing up Game. Well newsflash buddy, 50 is responsible that Game is in the rap game today. Think about that for a minute.
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
I see what you're saying definitely. But I think what's setting up the current mentality on it is Massacre vs. DA for example you know? You can make good mainstream rap, and perhaps 50's new joint will bang and then such discussions as this will be different. and 50 IS the bully, or rather I'd say the problem, because perhaps if dre wasn't working with him dre would be blowing someone up that's really dope. For example, 50 will get alot of hate coming his way from me and alot of us if Bishop's shit gets delayed cause 50's joint will drop with like 3-7 dre tracks in the 3rd or 4th quarter you know? That would be a direct example of 50 fucking the game up.
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Jeez stop balming 50 for everything. Youre always bringing up Game. Well newsflash buddy, 50 is responsible that Game is in the rap game today. Think about that for a minute.
50 was dre's way of getting Game out there, so yeah he was there, but if there was no 50 it would have been someone else. You're right, I should stop blaming 50,he's just a good example of what's wrong with shit. if it wasn't him it'd be someone else, but my whole thing is when you support his recordsm you're telling the industry you want more of that shit thus perpetuating the rut of the industry. Perhaps the bottom will fall out, we'll see his next records sales. I have to admit based on how this video blew the fuck up, he'll probably still sell a gang.
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
I see what you're saying definitely. But I think what's setting up the current mentality on it is Massacre vs. DA for example you know? You can make good mainstream rap, and perhaps 50's new joint will bang and then such discussions as this will be different. and 50 IS the bully, or rather I'd say the problem, because perhaps if dre wasn't working with him dre would be blowing someone up that's really dope. For example, 50 will get alot of hate coming his way from me and alot of us if Bishop's shit gets delayed cause 50's joint will drop with like 3-7 dre tracks in the 3rd or 4th quarter you know? That would be a direct example of 50 fucking the game up.
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Jeez stop balming 50 for everything. Youre always bringing up Game. Well newsflash buddy, 50 is responsible that Game is in the rap game today. Think about that for a minute.
no offense to -T, but he sounds like he is a very new rap fan.. Dre is a perfectionist, if Bishop is delayed than it will be 100% Dre's fault. Just like Game. The only reason why Documentary was released was because 50 got involved and speed the project up..
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
I see what you're saying definitely. But I think what's setting up the current mentality on it is Massacre vs. DA for example you know? You can make good mainstream rap, and perhaps 50's new joint will bang and then such discussions as this will be different. and 50 IS the bully, or rather I'd say the problem, because perhaps if dre wasn't working with him dre would be blowing someone up that's really dope. For example, 50 will get alot of hate coming his way from me and alot of us if Bishop's shit gets delayed cause 50's joint will drop with like 3-7 dre tracks in the 3rd or 4th quarter you know? That would be a direct example of 50 fucking the game up.
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Jeez stop balming 50 for everything. Youre always bringing up Game. Well newsflash buddy, 50 is responsible that Game is in the rap game today. Think about that for a minute.
no offense to -T, but he sounds like he is a very new rap fan.. Dre is a perfectionist, if Bishop is delayed than it will be 100% Dre's fault. Just like Game. The only reason why Documentary was released was because 50 got involved and speed the project up..
nah, ain't new. but anyway I'm saying if dre puts alot of work into 50's album this year
a) that's time taken away from dre working with bishop
b)dre may not want to drop the albums around the same time so people will buy them both
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
I see what you're saying definitely. But I think what's setting up the current mentality on it is Massacre vs. DA for example you know? You can make good mainstream rap, and perhaps 50's new joint will bang and then such discussions as this will be different. and 50 IS the bully, or rather I'd say the problem, because perhaps if dre wasn't working with him dre would be blowing someone up that's really dope. For example, 50 will get alot of hate coming his way from me and alot of us if Bishop's shit gets delayed cause 50's joint will drop with like 3-7 dre tracks in the 3rd or 4th quarter you know? That would be a direct example of 50 fucking the game up.
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Jeez stop balming 50 for everything. Youre always bringing up Game. Well newsflash buddy, 50 is responsible that Game is in the rap game today. Think about that for a minute.
no offense to -T, but he sounds like he is a very new rap fan.. Dre is a perfectionist, if Bishop is delayed than it will be 100% Dre's fault. Just like Game. The only reason why Documentary was released was because 50 got involved and speed the project up..
nah, ain't new. but anyway I'm saying if dre puts alot of work into 50's album this year
a) that's time taken away from dre working with bishop
b)dre may not want to drop the albums around the same time so people will buy them both
-T
dre has plenty of time to work on people's music. It's just that he's a perfectionist.. He does a song.. then he wakes up at 2am and says "no, i dont like it anymore.. lets change something." Read Snoop's interview of how "Thats That" almost didn't come out b/c Dre's perfectionist.
Trust me man, Bishop probably has 30 songs recorded and in good quality ready to be released. It is Dre that delays the projects because he isn't 100% satisfied with the work. That's been his biggest 'problem' even in the Death Row days. That was the MAIN reason Game signed to G-Unit... He had music already recorded but was frustrated with the dre delay, so he signed with 50, took 2 more songs from him and then 50 released it.
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so Game was on AM and almost got dropped until he got with G Unit is the official story?
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so Game was on AM and almost got dropped until he got with G Unit is the official story?
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i don't know if he was almost dropped from AM. He was on AM for a long time with recorded music and there was no push for his solo to come out until 50 Cent hopped on the project and gave him 2 left over songs from Massacre.
Think of it this way, he was on AM from 2003, and his album didn't get released until 2005..
Bishop lamont signed in late 2005 and his album will be released late 2007. 2 years to make 15 songs??
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so Game was on AM and almost got dropped until he got with G Unit is the official story?
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i don't know if he was almost dropped from AM. He was on AM for a long time with recorded music and there was no push for his solo to come out until 50 Cent hopped on the project and gave him 2 left over songs from Massacre.
Think of it this way, he was on AM from 2003, and his album didn't get released until 2005..
Bishop lamont signed in late 2005 and his album will be released late 2007. 2 years to make 15 songs??
which two songs on game's shit were massacre leftovers?
also, bishop will drop in 08 if 50 wants dre on his shit. yeah it's dre's long time taking ass that is the over all problem but the fact remains 50's shit is more stress for dre that will distract him from putting bishop out.
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so Game was on AM and almost got dropped until he got with G Unit is the official story?
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i don't know if he was almost dropped from AM. He was on AM for a long time with recorded music and there was no push for his solo to come out until 50 Cent hopped on the project and gave him 2 left over songs from Massacre.
Think of it this way, he was on AM from 2003, and his album didn't get released until 2005..
Bishop lamont signed in late 2005 and his album will be released late 2007. 2 years to make 15 songs??
which two songs on game's shit were massacre leftovers?
also, bishop will drop in 08 if 50 wants dre on his shit. yeah it's dre's long time taking ass that is the over all problem but the fact remains 50's shit is more stress for dre that will distract him from putting bishop out.
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like i said man, you must be new to this rap thing. Why do you even need to ask which songs were massacre leftovers? Take a guess.. Which songs sound like they should of been the massacre?
lol why do you make it sound like 50 Cent is Dre's distraction? I'm pretty sure it's a 100% mutual respect between the two if 50 wants Dre to produce on his album.. Keep in mind that Dre makes money off 50 so why would he not want 50 to release the best material? And just to 'remind' you of Dre's working habits, he ALWAYS prefer the seasoned artists over the new artists.. But you know that, you've been following them for awhile now.
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^^ Hey its the truth. Just look at the stats for lets say last 3 years, how many rappers tried to use the same beef promotion but no one gave a flying fuck.
Dude, please stop. 50 didn't blow the fuck up because of beef. He blew the fuck up off one of the dopest Dre beats ever and he's been riding that success ever since. Remember Ghetto Quran? He dissed everybody in the fucking industry and gossiped like a motherfucker in that song and that sure as hell didn't equal album sales.
50 is nothing more than a fucking gimmick. He brings nothing to the table as an artist anymore. I don't understand how people don't see that.
You mean How To Rob right. That song got him crazy buzz but jeez you know, hmm, he was shot and almost died. Maybe but just maybe that had something with his buzz dying.
I see no point in discussing 50s music with you, we get nowhere. You hate him, I like him. The end.
Yeah my bad. I meant "How To Rob". I'm hungover.
And my point is not that 50 sucks. It's that I think all you do is read some hype about an album on another site and then come back here and start spouting all that hype shit. You don't make a distinction on what's really dope, you basically just follow whatever the big hype shit is. And I'm not even dissing you because you report mad news to us. I just get the feeling that you don't really have any of your own opinions, you just hear other people calling songs "bangers" and report it as that. Like whatever is pushing the most units is what you think is the best or something. Well that and anything G-Unit.
You're saying that "How To Rob" got him a crazy buzz? I def wouldn't go that far. He did that joint in like 99 and nobody (fanwise) really gave a fuck. It gave him such a huge buzz that Columbia never released his album, lol. I'd be willing to bet that almost nobody on these boards even listened to "How To Rob" till after GRODT dropped.
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^^ Your way off about me listening to others which tracks are dope and which aint. If anything my opinion most of the time is completley off considering general opinion. I said this diss is weak, despite its getting props elsewhere (surprisingly).
I think you really "dislike" 50. I mean hes completley off your music taste (nothing wrong with that), yet youre leaving (of course) negative comments about him in every chance/thread you get.
But its just opinions, like Ive said before, are views here are completley different and no need for arguing over it.
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just for the record, I wanna say I think the 50 song is strong, but the diss is weak. if that makes sense.
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On another, can someone hook me up with a MP3 of this song Pleeeeeease?
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
What is your definition of a commercial rapper? Somebody on a major? Somebody that brands the fuck out of everything they can (shoes, clothes, water, books, movies, endless other shit)? Somebody that makes "club bangers"? Somebody that hops on every new trend? Seriously, what is your definition?
I'd almost guarantee you I've purchased more of what you would consider "Entertainment & Fun Music" than you have. And I'm not saying that in a pissing match type of way, I'm just saying that I absolutely appreciate party and bullshit records. It's not about that. Some of the greatest records ever made in Hip Hop were party and bullshit type of joints.
Mainstream rap has never been as limited and watered down as it is now. It's more about hype than content.
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Hes a commercial rapper lol. Every commercial rapper aint doinf nothing new but sticking to the formula. And in 50s case its working yet again. Stop making him the bully and like hes the only that "doesnt bring anything new to the table". If you want that go listen to Talib Kweli. If you want entertaiment and fun music go listen to commercial rappers.
What is your definition of a commercial rapper? Somebody on a major? Somebody that brands the fuck out of everything they can (shoes, clothes, water, books, movies, endless other shit)? Somebody that makes "club bangers"? Somebody that hops on every new trend? Seriously, what is your definition?
I'd almost guarantee you I've purchased more of what you would consider "Entertainment & Fun Music" than you have. And I'm not saying that in a pissing match type of way, I'm just saying that I absolutely appreciate party and bullshit records. It's not about that. Some of the greatest records ever made in Hip Hop were party and bullshit type of joints.
Mainstream rap has never been as limited and watered down as it is now. It's more about hype than content.
My whole point. 50 DOES fit this category but people often forget there are 1000 other rappers that fit the same category.
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On another, can someone hook me up with a MP3 of this song Pleeeeeease?
go to the post that says cam's reply in outbound and there's a link to another thread that has the song in full on the first post for download
and my whole point is that there are rappers who fit the category that should be getting more of dre's attention than 50s, my initial point was 50's lyrics weren't as dope as Cams as far as the disses go.
and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
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^^ Your way off about me listening to others which tracks are dope and which aint. If anything my opinion most of the time is completley off considering general opinion. I said this diss is weak, despite its getting props elsewhere (surprisingly).
I think you really "dislike" 50. I mean hes completley off your music taste (nothing wrong with that), yet youre leaving (of course) negative comments about him in every chance/thread you get.
But its just opinions, like Ive said before, are views here are completley different and no need for arguing over it.
LOL @ 50 being off of my musical scale. I've told you numerous times in the past that I bought GRODT and I have 50 cent songs on my hard drive. He was on point prior to The Massacre. Hell he's even done a couple songs since then that weren't too bad. But the vast majority has been crap, you're just too caught up in all the hype that you don't see it. That or you don't have an ear for it anyway.
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T aint new to hiphop, he just been missin for a while i think, homie vanished and doing a pretty good job of catchin up if imma be honest....and to be honest.......you really aint missed much depending on when u decided to say fuck hiphop.....really nuttin aint happened but delayed projects to scrapped hyped projects......ofcourse some shit did come through.....50's debut....games 2 albums..kanye/liljon(he had a crazy ass stint)...nas signing with jigga....black album.....drop it like it hot-snoop/neptunes...kinda taking the mantle from dre for snoop for a minute.....u aint misssed shit....theres alot of new cats or young music/hiphop heads in here right now who aint be understanding hiphop right now.......last really great things which happened in hiphop were the jigga/nas beef, ether. stillmatic and chronic 2001.....shit has happened since then but nothing amazing....hiphop has just become poltical/business orientated and when niggaz with no education , suddenly get power andtry and get clever and into business.....aint nothing happen but ruthless/stupid shit which has been poisoning hiphop for the last 4 years....
oh and dre is a perfectionist....but his also scared....he lost alot of his spark recently making beats because he don;t take risks no mo...wheres the funk layered shit he put out....he could put out shit that was perfectly mixed with baning bass, bangin melody, funk and everything....and it would be crisp and still sound musically correct...now he would rather not release a joint that could be a smash hit because if it dont blow, he may get slammed.........nobody is better at being a perfectionist than dre but don't ever think that s it....thats a homie that IS real clever....
now about 50/dre..............dre makes hella money off 50 so ofcourse dre will give hom some sick beats to make up for the money he be making off him......50 knows he needs dres guidance and vision to make a dope album and he has to sell.....its really that simple, dre will want his money and expects 50 to make him and aftermath money....50 expects to sell but he knows anything less than a bangin album will be embarassing simply because he has had sooo much time since his last release, he really has no excuses.....so for 50 it aint about the money becuase he knows that will come....its about coming with a sick album to make niggaz realise he can still drop dope music....something which anyone whos a true hiphop fan will tell you he aint done since GRODT.......noone denies 50 can spit....he can write some sick shit......like game, look past the name dropping and game actually drops some dope lines....but haters will not admit that..but like someone said....right now 50 is putting out to many songs and shit aint natural....to me about this diss song 50 put out, the best thing about the joint to me was the first verse....50 sounded hungry and he sounded sick....after that i got bored....
about westcoasts fans who would rather see dre working wth bishop than "x" from another coast.....thats understandable....because its a westcoast forum.....anyone saying that is hatin is stupid....everyone knows dre is still the man no matter if his shit is weak right now but many people would rather see him working with someone else than 50 or stat quo....like i would like to see dre work on himself snoop and game....but he chooses to work with 50 right now.....but i don't hate dre for doing this because truth is he can do what he wants now....
bishop aint coming out before october......nigga got no buzz.....i aint hating but that is truth...we know who he is....but not your casual music listener who don't follow shit like some of us do...
and to those who said about other forums....who gives a fuck about what other forums thinks....i seen forums like d12world and choose never to go on them again because it is full of white kids who do not know nothing about hiphop and chat alot of shit everyday....same with alot of other forums.....dubcc IS from another galaxy because it has alot of heads on here who speak truth and know hella info about hiphop....ofcourse u got some with less and the stupid....and sometimes dubcc gets filled with dumbass muthafuckers...but on a whole oversseer keeps that shit out unless these niggaz are contributing towards the forum in one way or another.....
SHIIIIT.....that was hella long and right now im sounding crazy negative in many posts in regards to hiphop......bt i aint gon trip.....hiphop to me is like my child,lol....its like my breakfast.....its like....shiiiit.......its like my wifey while my girl is my bitch....feel me?lol.....and right now hiphop got a virus but it aint got no cure......
Peace!
p.s.......this post aint a diss to nobody....its just me being mad at the state of the game right now.....
hiphop execs expected niggas to drop pop singles ever since the real slim shady/without me came out....and everyone knows niggas cannot drop hiphop singles like that......than in da club came out and they were like ay yo blacky....put out a club joint for my son to get jiggy too.....then rakim expected to make niggaz dance.....eveything right now in hiphop has a ripple effect...like each year right now there is a "go-to man" in hiphop, the fuck is that shit??? ....on the upside now there is more than one dope hiphop producer who can make high budget shit....timbaland,neptunes, dre,kanye and so on....but when was the last time these nigga tried making someone come with a grimey joint instead of a club banger for a hit....what happened to shit like timbaland street anthems.....shiiiiit,
aight now im just going to faar........tooooo faaaaaaaar cuuuuuuurtiss.....
my bad, im out
nbody read this post...
peace
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
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Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
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T aint new to hiphop, he just been missin for a while i think, homie vanished and doing a pretty good job of catchin up if imma be honest....and to be honest.......you really aint missed much depending on when u decided to say fuck hiphop.....really nuttin aint happened but delayed projects to scrapped hyped projects......ofcourse some shit did come through.....50's debut....games 2 albums..kanye/liljon(he had a crazy ass stint)...nas signing with jigga....black album.....drop it like it hot-snoop/neptunes...kinda taking the mantle from dre for snoop for a minute.....u aint misssed shit....theres alot of new cats or young music/hiphop heads in here right now who aint be understanding hiphop right now.......last really great things which happened in hiphop were the jigga/nas beef, ether. stillmatic and chronic 2001.....shit has happened since then but nothing amazing....hiphop has just become poltical/business orientated and when niggaz with no education , suddenly get power andtry and get clever and into business.....aint nothing happen but ruthless/stupid shit which has been poisoning hiphop for the last 4 years....
oh and dre is a perfectionist....but his also scared....he lost alot of his spark recently making beats because he don;t take risks no mo...wheres the funk layered shit he put out....he could put out shit that was perfectly mixed with baning bass, bangin melody, funk and everything....and it would be crisp and still sound musically correct...now he would rather not release a joint that could be a smash hit because if it dont blow, he may get slammed.........nobody is better at being a perfectionist than dre but don't ever think that s it....thats a homie that IS real clever....
now about 50/dre..............dre makes hella money off 50 so ofcourse dre will give hom some sick beats to make up for the money he be making off him......50 knows he needs dres guidance and vision to make a dope album and he has to sell.....its really that simple, dre will want his money and expects 50 to make him and aftermath money....50 expects to sell but he knows anything less than a bangin album will be embarassing simply because he has had sooo much time since his last release, he really has no excuses.....so for 50 it aint about the money becuase he knows that will come....its about coming with a sick album to make niggaz realise he can still drop dope music....something which anyone whos a true hiphop fan will tell you he aint done since GRODT.......noone denies 50 can spit....he can write some sick shit......like game, look past the name dropping and game actually drops some dope lines....but haters will not admit that..but like someone said....right now 50 is putting out to many songs and shit aint natural....to me about this diss song 50 put out, the best thing about the joint to me was the first verse....50 sounded hungry and he sounded sick....after that i got bored....
about westcoasts fans who would rather see dre working wth bishop than "x" from another coast.....thats understandable....because its a westcoast forum.....anyone saying that is hatin is stupid....everyone knows dre is still the man no matter if his shit is weak right now but many people would rather see him working with someone else than 50 or stat quo....like i would like to see dre work on himself snoop and game....but he chooses to work with 50 right now.....but i don't hate dre for doing this because truth is he can do what he wants now....
bishop aint coming out before october......nigga got no buzz.....i aint hating but that is truth...we know who he is....but not your casual music listener who don't follow shit like some of us do...
and to those who said about other forums....who gives a fuck about what other forums thinks....i seen forums like d12world and choose never to go on them again because it is full of white kids who do not know nothing about hiphop and chat alot of shit everyday....same with alot of other forums.....dubcc IS from another galaxy because it has alot of heads on here who speak truth and know hella info about hiphop....ofcourse u got some with less and the stupid....and sometimes dubcc gets filled with dumbass muthafuckers...but on a whole oversseer keeps that shit out unless these niggaz are contributing towards the forum in one way or another.....
SHIIIIT.....that was hella long and right now im sounding crazy negative in many posts in regards to hiphop......bt i aint gon trip.....hiphop to me is like my child,lol....its like my breakfast.....its like....shiiiit.......its like my wifey while my girl is my bitch....feel me?lol.....and right now hiphop got a virus but it aint got no cure......
Peace!
p.s.......this post aint a diss to nobody....its just me being mad at the state of the game right now.....
hiphop execs expected niggas to drop pop singles ever since the real slim shady/without me came out....and everyone knows niggas cannot drop hiphop singles like that......than in da club came out and they were like ay yo blacky....put out a club joint for my son to get jiggy too.....then rakim expected to make niggaz dance.....eveything right now in hiphop has a ripple effect...like each year right now there is a "go-to man" in hiphop, the fuck is that shit??? ....on the upside now there is more than one dope hiphop producer who can make high budget shit....timbaland,neptunes, dre,kanye and so on....but when was the last time these nigga tried making someone come with a grimey joint instead of a club banger for a hit....what happened to shit like timbaland street anthems.....shiiiiit,
aight now im just going to faar........tooooo faaaaaaaar cuuuuuuurtiss.....
my bad, im out
nbody read this post...
peace
That shit was on point. Props.
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
-T
Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
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Fif is killing 'em son. He's just a live ass nigga, the Dips can't fuck with dude period...ROFL at G-Unit sending Hot97 an obituary for Cameron Giles: Average Rapper lol. I was lucky enough to hear the whole thing go down live on the radio this morning at the job. Work was at a stand still when they premiered the track, imagine like 11 heads crowded around one tiny ass boom box tryna hear this dude spit!
But 50 & Cam are both cool, 50's just got more money & power. I just hope some nice diss records come outta this.
What else did 50 say on the radio ? Any news on the album ?
50 wasn't there, they just sent the DJ a package with the obituary, a black rose and the track. I didn't hear nothing about an album.
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^^ Your way off about me listening to others which tracks are dope and which aint. If anything my opinion most of the time is completley off considering general opinion. I said this diss is weak, despite its getting props elsewhere (surprisingly).
I think you really "dislike" 50. I mean hes completley off your music taste (nothing wrong with that), yet youre leaving (of course) negative comments about him in every chance/thread you get.
But its just opinions, like Ive said before, are views here are completley different and no need for arguing over it.
LOL @ 50 being off of my musical scale. I've told you numerous times in the past that I bought GRODT and I have 50 cent songs on my hard drive. He was on point prior to The Massacre. Hell he's even done a couple songs since then that weren't too bad. But the vast majority has been crap, you're just too caught up in all the hype that you don't see it. That or you don't have an ear for it anyway.
The whole "I used to like him but now _ (add a commercial rapper) he sucks, so I can talk shit about him" is getting to old on this forum.
From the second this beef started I knew where you'd be standing. 50 drops a weak record and you write a whole essey about why it sucks. Cam also drops a weak record but wait, hes got puinchilnes for days and completley shits on this. Lol. Anyone that cant see that both of this tracks are weak and the only good thing is the trash talking at the end is just being biased. And now all of a sudden your checking Cams interviews too ? And saying stuff like how funny he is, when 2 weeks ago you couldnt care less about him.
Ah well, maybe its just me :-X
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The whole "I used to like him but now _ (add a commercial rapper) he sucks, so I can talk shit about him" is getting to old on this forum.
it's the way people make themselves believe they're 'real' hip hop fans..
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^^ Your way off about me listening to others which tracks are dope and which aint. If anything my opinion most of the time is completley off considering general opinion. I said this diss is weak, despite its getting props elsewhere (surprisingly).
I think you really "dislike" 50. I mean hes completley off your music taste (nothing wrong with that), yet youre leaving (of course) negative comments about him in every chance/thread you get.
But its just opinions, like Ive said before, are views here are completley different and no need for arguing over it.
LOL @ 50 being off of my musical scale. I've told you numerous times in the past that I bought GRODT and I have 50 cent songs on my hard drive. He was on point prior to The Massacre. Hell he's even done a couple songs since then that weren't too bad. But the vast majority has been crap, you're just too caught up in all the hype that you don't see it. That or you don't have an ear for it anyway.
The whole "I used to like him but now _ (add a commercial rapper) he sucks, so I can talk shit about him" is getting to old on this forum.
From the second this beef started I knew where you'd be standing. 50 drops a weak record and you write a whole essey about why it sucks. Cam also drops a weak record but wait, hes got puinchilnes for days and completley shits on this. Lol. Anyone that cant see that both of this tracks are weak and the only good thing is the trash talking at the end is just being biased. And now all of a sudden your checking Cams interviews too ? And saying stuff like how funny he is, when 2 weeks ago you couldnt care less about him.
Ah well, maybe its just me :-X
Timbo, i normally don't agree with you when it comes to 50 Cent, but this time i do.
The funny thing about the previous poster's reply is that he says "I even like some of his songs since the massacre, but a majority has been crap".. Well. hell. I guess many people can say that about Dipset and Cam'ron.
Coming from a guy who made "Back Down", "Piggy Bank" and "window shopper", i think 50 can write a better diss song.. But what is Cam'ron worth these days? He obviously knows that he'll end Cam'ron.. Cam'ron's crew know that too, thats why Juelz and Jimmy were calling in and telling everyone that 50 and Cam were just being 'competitive'.... Shit, you'd never ever ever ever ever ever see Young Noble or Edi Ameng calling in and saying that 2pac and Biggie were just being competitive.. You'd never see Daz and Kurupt calling the radio and saying that Ruthless and DR were cool. So what's the difference now? lol
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^^ Exactly. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, 50s diss is weak BUT so is Cams. Theres bascially the same. 50 "won" round 1 simply because of the huge impact the song/video had. Nobody got owned or anything.
But to say 50s track sucks and Cams is the shit is just too funny.
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^^ Exactly. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, 50s diss is weak BUT so is Cams. Theres bascially the same. 50 "won" round 1 simply because of the huge impact the song/video had. Nobody got owned or anything.
But to say 50s track sucks and Cams is the shit is just too funny.
you are trippen homie, Cam had lyrics for days in his track,he destroyed 50 in round 1
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
-T
Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
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^^ Your way off about me listening to others which tracks are dope and which aint. If anything my opinion most of the time is completley off considering general opinion. I said this diss is weak, despite its getting props elsewhere (surprisingly).
I think you really "dislike" 50. I mean hes completley off your music taste (nothing wrong with that), yet youre leaving (of course) negative comments about him in every chance/thread you get.
But its just opinions, like Ive said before, are views here are completley different and no need for arguing over it.
LOL @ 50 being off of my musical scale. I've told you numerous times in the past that I bought GRODT and I have 50 cent songs on my hard drive. He was on point prior to The Massacre. Hell he's even done a couple songs since then that weren't too bad. But the vast majority has been crap, you're just too caught up in all the hype that you don't see it. That or you don't have an ear for it anyway.
The whole "I used to like him but now _ (add a commercial rapper) he sucks, so I can talk shit about him" is getting to old on this forum.
From the second this beef started I knew where you'd be standing. 50 drops a weak record and you write a whole essey about why it sucks. Cam also drops a weak record but wait, hes got puinchilnes for days and completley shits on this. Lol. Anyone that cant see that both of this tracks are weak and the only good thing is the trash talking at the end is just being biased. And now all of a sudden your checking Cams interviews too ? And saying stuff like how funny he is, when 2 weeks ago you couldnt care less about him.
Ah well, maybe its just me :-X
Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
2 weeks ago I didn't care about Cam? Where the fuck are coming up with this? Check my post history and you'll see my comments on Cam and Dipset. You're now completely talking out of your ass. I've been bumpin his shit since fuckin Horse & Carriage. But at the same time, I haven't been a fan of everything he's done and I'll say something's wack if it is. And LOL @ "all of a sudden you're checking Cam's interviews". If there's an interview that involves Cam or Jimmy I check it everytime. Dudes need their own reality show because they're hilarious. But anyway, keep making shit up and frontin on a message board. :-X
My whole point. 50 DOES fit this category but people often forget there are 1000 other rappers that fit the same category.
Who the fuck forgets that? They all suck too. You think 50 cent is the only one doing this? Fuck no. He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
And you ducked my question so I'll ask again. What is your definition of a "commercial" rapper?
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+1 to Jrome.
Most everything you've said in this thread is real shit.
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lol at those dudes at 50 house with rags on they face throwin up bloods. :D
actaully, i have heard worse from 50. new york is getting very interesting again! ;D
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Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
All of because of what I said about Game, without one "fuck Gayme", all with statements that are backed up by arguments, without ever calling "fucking wack." Me "winning" that just proved me that I struck peoples nerves.
Its these bloody double standards. People like 50, Jay, Em get hated on here 24/7 and people just post "lol" or "cosign" but when somebody says something bad about Game or something good about 50 hes either a dickrdyer or a groupie. Check the facts: Jome was getting hate when he gave a fuck about this, King Brant is being called a groupie every post he gets and Ill never forget how LBC 213 got called a GUnit groupie, when he backed them once and he hates them.
You calling me a groupie right now is another sad example. Did I start making "fuck Camron" threads like Dipset fans do ? No. Did I take sides ? No. Did I say stuff like "I havent even heard the songs but I hate 50 so much Im riding with Dipset" ? No.
About 50s "after GRODT era." People are quick to hate when peopel make it. After the GRODT era people only concentraded on the bad things 50 did and the bad songs 50 created. I'll bet you this second if 50 Cent released POTD today, with the exact same songs he would get hated on.
2 weeks ago I didn't care about Cam? Where the fuck are coming up with this? Check my post history and you'll see my comments on Cam and Dipset. You're now completely talking out of your ass. I've been bumpin his shit since fuckin Horse & Carriage. But at the same time, I haven't been a fan of everything he's done and I'll say something's wack if it is. And LOL @ "all of a sudden you're checking Cam's interviews". If there's an interview that involves Cam or Jimmy I check it everytime. Dudes need their own reality show because they're hilarious. But anyway, keep making shit up and frontin on a message board.
Ok, if thats true my bad, I didnt know that. I cant remember seing you post in Dipset related threads before but I could be wrong.
But still:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, 50s diss is weak BUT so is Cams. Theres bascially the same. 50 "won" round 1 simply because of the huge impact the song/video had. Nobody got owned or anything.
But to say 50s track sucks and Cams is the shit is just too funny.
He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
It as in the beat made him a superstard ? Youve gotta be kidding me. 50 made 50 a superstar. If that beat went to D12 like it was planned, it would have been nothing but your average cd joint. 50 killed that joint and it will probably go down as one of the best club joints in hip hop history.
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^^ Your way off about me listening to others which tracks are dope and which aint. If anything my opinion most of the time is completley off considering general opinion. I said this diss is weak, despite its getting props elsewhere (surprisingly).
I think you really "dislike" 50. I mean hes completley off your music taste (nothing wrong with that), yet youre leaving (of course) negative comments about him in every chance/thread you get.
But its just opinions, like Ive said before, are views here are completley different and no need for arguing over it.
LOL @ 50 being off of my musical scale. I've told you numerous times in the past that I bought GRODT and I have 50 cent songs on my hard drive. He was on point prior to The Massacre. Hell he's even done a couple songs since then that weren't too bad. But the vast majority has been crap, you're just too caught up in all the hype that you don't see it. That or you don't have an ear for it anyway.
The whole "I used to like him but now _ (add a commercial rapper) he sucks, so I can talk shit about him" is getting to old on this forum.
From the second this beef started I knew where you'd be standing. 50 drops a weak record and you write a whole essey about why it sucks. Cam also drops a weak record but wait, hes got puinchilnes for days and completley shits on this. Lol. Anyone that cant see that both of this tracks are weak and the only good thing is the trash talking at the end is just being biased. And now all of a sudden your checking Cams interviews too ? And saying stuff like how funny he is, when 2 weeks ago you couldnt care less about him.
Ah well, maybe its just me :-X
LMAO!!! dude, the fans are tired of rappers that fall off after succes! You're so pro-industry, you're like the Republican party of hip hop. But it's funny, so you're actually just the Stephen Colbert of Dubcnn.
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
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Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
well vanilla's ghost writers are suge's people since suge did get paid for those tracks to make Death Row Records ;)
but maybe u didn't understand my question. My question was what purpose a rapper has in your life?
See.. some people want their artist to be an educator, some want them to be an entertainer, some want them to be a politician, a newsreporter, or the representative of their alter-ego fantasy world.. etc.
a MC aka Master of Ceremonies (and Mic controller) role was to keep the party/events entertained and flowing. in hip hop, the dj would play a track and the MC would entertain the parties and make people dance.
So now that you understand my question, please answer.. Because i think some people want rappers to educate them and get disappointed when they come across a rapper who wants to make girls dance. Then some rappers wanna be a newsreporter, but they aint fitting the fans' alter-ego of being a 'hustler' or gang banger.
:)
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
-T
Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
well vanilla's ghost writers are suge's people since suge did get paid for those tracks to make Death Row Records ;)
but maybe u didn't understand my question. My question was what purpose a rapper has in your life?
See.. some people want their artist to be an educator, some want them to be an entertainer, some want them to be a politician, a newsreporter, or the representative of their alter-ego fantasy world.. etc.
a MC aka Master of Ceremonies (and Mic controller) role was to keep the party/events entertained and flowing. in hip hop, the dj would play a track and the MC would entertain the parties and make people dance.
So now that you understand my question, please answer.. Because i think some people want rappers to educate them and get disappointed when they come across a rapper who wants to make girls dance. Then some rappers wanna be a newsreporter, but they aint fitting the fans' alter-ego of being a 'hustler' or gang banger.
:)
:stupid:
You gotta slow down and listen to what I'm saying. It has NOTHING to do with making party & bullshit type of records. I'm not some fuckin square who doesn't get down to that shit. I know a good party & bullshit record when I hear it. I'm multi-faceted when it comes to Hip Hop. 50 used to be good at making those records. But he's not much more than a gimmick now.
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
-T
Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
well vanilla's ghost writers are suge's people since suge did get paid for those tracks to make Death Row Records ;)
but maybe u didn't understand my question. My question was what purpose a rapper has in your life?
See.. some people want their artist to be an educator, some want them to be an entertainer, some want them to be a politician, a newsreporter, or the representative of their alter-ego fantasy world.. etc.
a MC aka Master of Ceremonies (and Mic controller) role was to keep the party/events entertained and flowing. in hip hop, the dj would play a track and the MC would entertain the parties and make people dance.
So now that you understand my question, please answer.. Because i think some people want rappers to educate them and get disappointed when they come across a rapper who wants to make girls dance. Then some rappers wanna be a newsreporter, but they aint fitting the fans' alter-ego of being a 'hustler' or gang banger.
:)
:stupid:
You gotta slow down and listen to what I'm saying. It has NOTHING to do with making party & bullshit type of records. I'm not some fuckin square who doesn't get down to that shit. I know a good party & bullshit record when I hear it. I'm multi-faceted when it comes to Hip Hop. 50 used to be good at making those records. But he's not much more than a gimmick now.
that's where you may be conflicting yourself.
what's 50's gimmick? Is it to make music to make people dance?
What's the difference between him and MC Hammer? or many many many rappers that are gimmicks?
and last but not least, what's wrong with a rapper being a gimmick? Why does this cause a problem for you?
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Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
All of because of what I said about Game, without one "fuck Gayme", all with statements that are backed up by arguments, without ever calling "fucking wack." Me "winning" that just proved me that I struck peoples nerves.
Its these bloody double standards. People like 50, Jay, Em get hated on here 24/7 and people just post "lol" or "cosign" but when somebody says something bad about Game or something good about 50 hes either a dickrdyer or a groupie. Check the facts: Jome was getting hate when he gave a fuck about this, King Brant is being called a groupie every post he gets and Ill never forget how LBC 213 got called a GUnit groupie, when he backed them once and he hates them.
What you fail to realize is that 50, Jay, & Em all just put out argueably the worst albums of their respective careers. So sure, there's blind haters that dislike Jay because Cam does, but there's also people that dislike his album because it's fucking wack compared to the majority of his discography.
About 50s "after GRODT era." People are quick to hate when peopel make it. After the GRODT era people only concentraded on the bad things 50 did and the bad songs 50 created. I'll bet you this second if 50 Cent released POTD today, with the exact same songs he would get hated on.
50 chose to release "Candy Shop", "Just a Lil Bit", and "Outta Control rmx" as The Massacre singles. CS & JALB were horrible songs. Outta Control was saved by the fact that Dre remixed it. Without that fact, you just get a 3rd single that was as forgettable as the first two.
He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
It as in the beat made him a superstard ? Youve gotta be kidding me. 50 made 50 a superstar. If that beat went to D12 like it was planned, it would have been nothing but your average cd joint. 50 killed that joint and it will probably go down as one of the best club joints in hip hop history.
LMAO!!!! You're making rookie mistakes here man... Just like Snoop made Snoop a star, just like Eminem made Eminem a star, just like Game made Game a star, the list goes fucking on and on and on and on. Have you not been paying attention for the last 20 years? Look at how many artists are at their absolute peak when Dr. Dre is involved in their projects. He's been THE common denominator in some of the biggest albums in the last 20 years. But keep belieiving 50 made 50 a superstar :grumpy:
And it's undoubtedly one of the best club joints in history. When you say that D-12 would have released it and it would have just been average, that's pure speculation. I believe it would have absolutely been a hit.
But say d-12 does use it? What would 50 have used for his lead single? Do you think it would have had NEAR the impact that "In Da Club" had? HELL NO.
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
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Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
well vanilla's ghost writers are suge's people since suge did get paid for those tracks to make Death Row Records ;)
but maybe u didn't understand my question. My question was what purpose a rapper has in your life?
See.. some people want their artist to be an educator, some want them to be an entertainer, some want them to be a politician, a newsreporter, or the representative of their alter-ego fantasy world.. etc.
a MC aka Master of Ceremonies (and Mic controller) role was to keep the party/events entertained and flowing. in hip hop, the dj would play a track and the MC would entertain the parties and make people dance.
So now that you understand my question, please answer.. Because i think some people want rappers to educate them and get disappointed when they come across a rapper who wants to make girls dance. Then some rappers wanna be a newsreporter, but they aint fitting the fans' alter-ego of being a 'hustler' or gang banger.
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You gotta slow down and listen to what I'm saying. It has NOTHING to do with making party & bullshit type of records. I'm not some fuckin square who doesn't get down to that shit. I know a good party & bullshit record when I hear it. I'm multi-faceted when it comes to Hip Hop. 50 used to be good at making those records. But he's not much more than a gimmick now.
that's where you may be conflicting yourself.
what's 50's gimmick? Is it to make music to make people dance?
What's the difference between him and MC Hammer? or many many many rappers that are gimmicks?
and last but not least, what's wrong with a rapper being a gimmick? Why does this cause a problem for you?
Everybody's got a gimmick. But do they have anything after that gimmick? Because after people start to see your gimmick, they're gonna get bored real quick. And if you don't have any redeeming value musically, it's gonna translate into slumping popularity / sales in the music industry. And the industry is feeling those effects right now. They're trying to market their "artists" more as celebrities than musicians. It's all hype. People are constantly fed bullshit hype about these "artists" and they eat it right up without even realizing it.
It's now commonplace to not have much if any musical talent in the mainstream music world. It's now more important on what you're wearing, who's your producer, who you're featuring on the track, your latest beef, your latest arrest, your latest publicity stunt, what you drive, where you live, how many albums you sold, etc.
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A few of my observations:
1) Wow that was horrible.
2) Cam must have really affected him to get him to not only record a song, but shoot a vid as well.
3) He's really nervous about Buck's album flopping because he's trying to promote along with this song. He didn't do this for Banks or Yayo.
4) The hook was god awful. How can he hear that and think it's not corny as shit?
5) The beat wasn't bad.
6) He's obviously trying to cause friction amonst the Dips basically calling Jimmy the Don and Juelz Capo. I don't think it's gonna work.
7) I'm ready to hear Cam over a Heatmakerz beat with retaliation.
8) I'm ready to see Jimmy on Youtube responding. This will be fun.
btw, is there any chance that Jimmy and Juelz stay neutral?
LOL...that's the same way I feel. I don't see how they could stay neutral, he dissed them by saying "I'm not gonna destroy dipset".
Yeah he's dissing Cam but not dissing The rest...smart that way Dipset will destroy within itself if they not carefull, damn he even props them ballllllllin
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In comparison, both records aren't the greatest records of all times. But, in terms of diss records, meaning which song had more sting to it... How can anyone say 50's? What did he say to hurt Cam? Nothing. Yes, we understand, people think both songs are wack. But, as I'm sure most people are stating, Cam had more punchlines directed at 50... Which is what a diss record is about!!
What pisses me off the most is that people will defend their favorite rapper by bringing up old songs. For example, Kurupt releases a garbage track and someone says it's wack. A groupie will then say "Well he can make great songs! He's still dope. Look at what he did on Dogg Food..." Knowingly that, 1995 Kurupt is not the same as 2007 Kurupt. Eminem puts out a garbage club record and when people diss it, a groupie will say "Well look at what he did on SSLP or MMLP!!!" Knowingly that it's two different Eminems....
That's what's happening now. 50 put out a garbage diss record and people call him out on it and what do groupies do? "Well he makes good diss records! Look at 'Backdown.'" Keep in mind, diss records like "Window Shopper" held no wait. It was just 50 flossing his wallet and most rappers didn't care. His only real hard diss record was a song like "Backdown." But that 50 and this 50 are NOT the same. People need to realize that and come into the now...
By the way, why do people keep bringing up that 50 "writes two lines about a person and then that person spends all year dissing him"???? Did 50 not just make, not only a song, but a video about Cam?? LMAO. Don't dare come in this thread with that bullshit...
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Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
All of because of what I said about Game, without one "fuck Gayme", all with statements that are backed up by arguments, without ever calling "fucking wack." Me "winning" that just proved me that I struck peoples nerves.
Its these bloody double standards. People like 50, Jay, Em get hated on here 24/7 and people just post "lol" or "cosign" but when somebody says something bad about Game or something good about 50 hes either a dickrdyer or a groupie. Check the facts: Jome was getting hate when he gave a fuck about this, King Brant is being called a groupie every post he gets and Ill never forget how LBC 213 got called a GUnit groupie, when he backed them once and he hates them.
What you fail to realize is that 50, Jay, & Em all just put out argueably the worst albums of their respective careers. So sure, there's blind haters that dislike Jay because Cam does, but there's also people that dislike his album because it's fucking wack compared to the majority of his discography.
About 50s "after GRODT era." People are quick to hate when peopel make it. After the GRODT era people only concentraded on the bad things 50 did and the bad songs 50 created. I'll bet you this second if 50 Cent released POTD today, with the exact same songs he would get hated on.
50 chose to release "Candy Shop", "Just a Lil Bit", and "Outta Control rmx" as The Massacre singles. CS & JALB were horrible songs. Outta Control was saved by the fact that Dre remixed it. Without that fact, you just get a 3rd single that was as forgettable as the first two.
He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
It as in the beat made him a superstard ? Youve gotta be kidding me. 50 made 50 a superstar. If that beat went to D12 like it was planned, it would have been nothing but your average cd joint. 50 killed that joint and it will probably go down as one of the best club joints in hip hop history.
LMAO!!!! You're making rookie mistakes here man... Just like Snoop made Snoop a star, just like Eminem made Eminem a star, just like Game made Game a star, the list goes fucking on and on and on and on. Have you not been paying attention for the last 20 years? Look at how many artists are at their absolute peak when Dr. Dre is involved in their projects. He's been THE common denominator in some of the biggest albums in the last 20 years. But keep belieiving 50 made 50 a superstar :grumpy:
And it's undoubtedly one of the best club joints in history. When you say that D-12 would have released it and it would have just been average, that's pure speculation. I believe it would have absolutely been a hit.
But say d-12 does use it? What would 50 have used for his lead single? Do you think it would have had NEAR the impact that "In Da Club" had? HELL NO.
What I meant with that comment is that 50 sure as hell didnt relly on Dre and Em to make him blow up. I mean 50 released an album 3 months after he was signed. 3 months! If that doesnt tell you something that I dont know what does. It takes artist 3 years to release a cd on Aftermath. 50s husteled like crazy, he was EVERYWHERE. Now sure Im not saying Dre had nothing to do with it, Im saying he didnt have near as much to do with it as with other artists on his label.
50 had plenty of single material on GRODT: If I Cant, P.I.M.P., Wanksta, Like My Style.
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
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Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
well vanilla's ghost writers are suge's people since suge did get paid for those tracks to make Death Row Records ;)
but maybe u didn't understand my question. My question was what purpose a rapper has in your life?
See.. some people want their artist to be an educator, some want them to be an entertainer, some want them to be a politician, a newsreporter, or the representative of their alter-ego fantasy world.. etc.
a MC aka Master of Ceremonies (and Mic controller) role was to keep the party/events entertained and flowing. in hip hop, the dj would play a track and the MC would entertain the parties and make people dance.
So now that you understand my question, please answer.. Because i think some people want rappers to educate them and get disappointed when they come across a rapper who wants to make girls dance. Then some rappers wanna be a newsreporter, but they aint fitting the fans' alter-ego of being a 'hustler' or gang banger.
:)
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You gotta slow down and listen to what I'm saying. It has NOTHING to do with making party & bullshit type of records. I'm not some fuckin square who doesn't get down to that shit. I know a good party & bullshit record when I hear it. I'm multi-faceted when it comes to Hip Hop. 50 used to be good at making those records. But he's not much more than a gimmick now.
that's where you may be conflicting yourself.
what's 50's gimmick? Is it to make music to make people dance?
What's the difference between him and MC Hammer? or many many many rappers that are gimmicks?
and last but not least, what's wrong with a rapper being a gimmick? Why does this cause a problem for you?
Everybody's got a gimmick. But do they have anything after that gimmick? Because after people start to see your gimmick, they're gonna get bored real quick. And if you don't have any redeeming value musically, it's gonna translate into slumping popularity / sales in the music industry. And the industry is feeling those effects right now. They're trying to market their "artists" more as celebrities than musicians. It's all hype. People are constantly fed bullshit hype about these "artists" and they eat it right up without even realizing it.
It's now commonplace to not have much if any musical talent in the mainstream music world. It's now more important on what you're wearing, who's your producer, who you're featuring on the track, your latest beef, your latest arrest, your latest publicity stunt, what you drive, where you live, how many albums you sold, etc.
very good point. i understand where you are coming from.
so knowing this, why are you even in this thread? I mean, you can't really say that Cam doesn't fit the 'gimmick' either considering he has marketed himself to fit everything you just described.
My point is that some people's gimmicks is to make people be entertained. I read your other posts and you may not of enjoyed "JALB" or "Candy Shop" but some other people do. That's what they play at the clubs to make the women come to the dance floor and shake their bodies.. That's the type of music that you play at a wedding, at a bbq etc. Mainstream is meant for the mainstream. Nobody is trying to play some underground music in public.
So as much as i respect the artistic styles of the De La Souls for their creativity, i also gotta respect the MC Hammers out there for making the party jump off. I know, i took it back.. But i hope u understand that.
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and I think Jrome is saying that just cause that's what 50 is doesn't mean he's the dopest/good at it.
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Right. Fucking Vanilla Ice was more lyrical on Ice Ice Baby than 50 has been on his last few singles.
but vanilla ice didn't write his own music.. ask Suge Knight about that.
let me ask you a question. What do you want out of a rapper? What should a rapper's purpose be?
Well then 50 needs to hire Vanilla's ghost writer.
As for your question - a rapper's purpose or an MC's purpose? I'm guessing you don't differentiate the two. I view an MC as an artist first and foremost. But don't get me twisted. There's been tons of MC's in the underground and the mainstream, and MC's who have had mega success and MC's who haven't been successful. MC's used to be heard on the radio all the time.
I view a rapper as nothing more than a hustler. They found a hustle that they can exploit. Just like slangin dope or bubblegum in grade school.
well vanilla's ghost writers are suge's people since suge did get paid for those tracks to make Death Row Records ;)
but maybe u didn't understand my question. My question was what purpose a rapper has in your life?
See.. some people want their artist to be an educator, some want them to be an entertainer, some want them to be a politician, a newsreporter, or the representative of their alter-ego fantasy world.. etc.
a MC aka Master of Ceremonies (and Mic controller) role was to keep the party/events entertained and flowing. in hip hop, the dj would play a track and the MC would entertain the parties and make people dance.
So now that you understand my question, please answer.. Because i think some people want rappers to educate them and get disappointed when they come across a rapper who wants to make girls dance. Then some rappers wanna be a newsreporter, but they aint fitting the fans' alter-ego of being a 'hustler' or gang banger.
:)
:stupid:
You gotta slow down and listen to what I'm saying. It has NOTHING to do with making party & bullshit type of records. I'm not some fuckin square who doesn't get down to that shit. I know a good party & bullshit record when I hear it. I'm multi-faceted when it comes to Hip Hop. 50 used to be good at making those records. But he's not much more than a gimmick now.
that's where you may be conflicting yourself.
what's 50's gimmick? Is it to make music to make people dance?
What's the difference between him and MC Hammer? or many many many rappers that are gimmicks?
and last but not least, what's wrong with a rapper being a gimmick? Why does this cause a problem for you?
Everybody's got a gimmick. But do they have anything after that gimmick? Because after people start to see your gimmick, they're gonna get bored real quick. And if you don't have any redeeming value musically, it's gonna translate into slumping popularity / sales in the music industry. And the industry is feeling those effects right now. They're trying to market their "artists" more as celebrities than musicians. It's all hype. People are constantly fed bullshit hype about these "artists" and they eat it right up without even realizing it.
It's now commonplace to not have much if any musical talent in the mainstream music world. It's now more important on what you're wearing, who's your producer, who you're featuring on the track, your latest beef, your latest arrest, your latest publicity stunt, what you drive, where you live, how many albums you sold, etc.
very good point. i understand where you are coming from.
so knowing this, why are you even in this thread? I mean, you can't really say that Cam doesn't fit the 'gimmick' either considering he has marketed himself to fit everything you just described.
My point is that some people's gimmicks is to make people be entertained. I read your other posts and you may not of enjoyed "JALB" or "Candy Shop" but some other people do. That's what they play at the clubs to make the women come to the dance floor and shake their bodies.. That's the type of music that you play at a wedding, at a bbq etc. Mainstream is meant for the mainstream. Nobody is trying to play some underground music in public.
So as much as i respect the artistic styles of the De La Souls for their creativity, i also gotta respect the MC Hammers out there for making the party jump off. I know, i took it back.. But i hope u understand that.
Again, it's not about Underground vs. Mainstream. It has nothing to do with subject matter of a song. It has nothing to do with the genre. It's all about the execution. Even when cats were doing love songs, club songs, etc they still kept their integrity as an MC back in the day. Listen to "Ice Ice Baby", listen to "Cant Touch This", and tell me both of those cats don't ride a beat better or flow better than 50 cent on his commercial shit post GRODT. Those dudes at least had addictive flows.
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Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
All of because of what I said about Game, without one "fuck Gayme", all with statements that are backed up by arguments, without ever calling "fucking wack." Me "winning" that just proved me that I struck peoples nerves.
Its these bloody double standards. People like 50, Jay, Em get hated on here 24/7 and people just post "lol" or "cosign" but when somebody says something bad about Game or something good about 50 hes either a dickrdyer or a groupie. Check the facts: Jome was getting hate when he gave a fuck about this, King Brant is being called a groupie every post he gets and Ill never forget how LBC 213 got called a GUnit groupie, when he backed them once and he hates them.
What you fail to realize is that 50, Jay, & Em all just put out argueably the worst albums of their respective careers. So sure, there's blind haters that dislike Jay because Cam does, but there's also people that dislike his album because it's fucking wack compared to the majority of his discography.
About 50s "after GRODT era." People are quick to hate when peopel make it. After the GRODT era people only concentraded on the bad things 50 did and the bad songs 50 created. I'll bet you this second if 50 Cent released POTD today, with the exact same songs he would get hated on.
50 chose to release "Candy Shop", "Just a Lil Bit", and "Outta Control rmx" as The Massacre singles. CS & JALB were horrible songs. Outta Control was saved by the fact that Dre remixed it. Without that fact, you just get a 3rd single that was as forgettable as the first two.
He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
It as in the beat made him a superstard ? Youve gotta be kidding me. 50 made 50 a superstar. If that beat went to D12 like it was planned, it would have been nothing but your average cd joint. 50 killed that joint and it will probably go down as one of the best club joints in hip hop history.
LMAO!!!! You're making rookie mistakes here man... Just like Snoop made Snoop a star, just like Eminem made Eminem a star, just like Game made Game a star, the list goes fucking on and on and on and on. Have you not been paying attention for the last 20 years? Look at how many artists are at their absolute peak when Dr. Dre is involved in their projects. He's been THE common denominator in some of the biggest albums in the last 20 years. But keep belieiving 50 made 50 a superstar :grumpy:
And it's undoubtedly one of the best club joints in history. When you say that D-12 would have released it and it would have just been average, that's pure speculation. I believe it would have absolutely been a hit.
But say d-12 does use it? What would 50 have used for his lead single? Do you think it would have had NEAR the impact that "In Da Club" had? HELL NO.
What I meant with that comment is that 50 sure as hell didnt relly on Dre and Em to make him blow up. I mean 50 released an album 3 months after he was signed. 3 months! If that doesnt tell you something that I dont know what does. It takes artist 3 years to release a cd on Aftermath. 50s husteled like crazy, he was EVERYWHERE. Now sure Im not saying Dre had nothing to do with it, Im saying he didnt have near as much to do with it as with other artists on his label.
50 had plenty of single material on GRODT: If I Cant, P.I.M.P., Wanksta, Like My Style.
If 50 doesn't have Dr. Dre and "In Da Club" he's lucky if he ever releases an album on a major, let alone go platinum. 50 was absolutely no different than every other NY rapper prior to him signing to Shady / Aftermath. If you really believe that Dre and Em didn't blow him up I don't really know what to tell you. I'm just saying I've seen this pattern with dozens of other rappers that Dre works with. And each and every rapper walks away thinking they're the baddest motherfucker on earth, that they really know what it takes to make dope records. But keep thinking 50 is more responsible than Dre, I'll just keep :grumpy:
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Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
All of because of what I said about Game, without one "fuck Gayme", all with statements that are backed up by arguments, without ever calling "fucking wack." Me "winning" that just proved me that I struck peoples nerves.
Its these bloody double standards. People like 50, Jay, Em get hated on here 24/7 and people just post "lol" or "cosign" but when somebody says something bad about Game or something good about 50 hes either a dickrdyer or a groupie. Check the facts: Jome was getting hate when he gave a fuck about this, King Brant is being called a groupie every post he gets and Ill never forget how LBC 213 got called a GUnit groupie, when he backed them once and he hates them.
What you fail to realize is that 50, Jay, & Em all just put out argueably the worst albums of their respective careers. So sure, there's blind haters that dislike Jay because Cam does, but there's also people that dislike his album because it's fucking wack compared to the majority of his discography.
About 50s "after GRODT era." People are quick to hate when peopel make it. After the GRODT era people only concentraded on the bad things 50 did and the bad songs 50 created. I'll bet you this second if 50 Cent released POTD today, with the exact same songs he would get hated on.
50 chose to release "Candy Shop", "Just a Lil Bit", and "Outta Control rmx" as The Massacre singles. CS & JALB were horrible songs. Outta Control was saved by the fact that Dre remixed it. Without that fact, you just get a 3rd single that was as forgettable as the first two.
He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
It as in the beat made him a superstard ? Youve gotta be kidding me. 50 made 50 a superstar. If that beat went to D12 like it was planned, it would have been nothing but your average cd joint. 50 killed that joint and it will probably go down as one of the best club joints in hip hop history.
LMAO!!!! You're making rookie mistakes here man... Just like Snoop made Snoop a star, just like Eminem made Eminem a star, just like Game made Game a star, the list goes fucking on and on and on and on. Have you not been paying attention for the last 20 years? Look at how many artists are at their absolute peak when Dr. Dre is involved in their projects. He's been THE common denominator in some of the biggest albums in the last 20 years. But keep belieiving 50 made 50 a superstar :grumpy:
And it's undoubtedly one of the best club joints in history. When you say that D-12 would have released it and it would have just been average, that's pure speculation. I believe it would have absolutely been a hit.
But say d-12 does use it? What would 50 have used for his lead single? Do you think it would have had NEAR the impact that "In Da Club" had? HELL NO.
What I meant with that comment is that 50 sure as hell didnt relly on Dre and Em to make him blow up. I mean 50 released an album 3 months after he was signed. 3 months! If that doesnt tell you something that I dont know what does. It takes artist 3 years to release a cd on Aftermath. 50s husteled like crazy, he was EVERYWHERE. Now sure Im not saying Dre had nothing to do with it, Im saying he didnt have near as much to do with it as with other artists on his label.
50 had plenty of single material on GRODT: If I Cant, P.I.M.P., Wanksta, Like My Style.
If 50 doesn't have Dr. Dre and "In Da Club" he's lucky if he ever releases an album on a major, let alone go platinum. 50 was absolutely no different than every other NY rapper prior to him signing to Shady / Aftermath. If you really believe that Dre and Em didn't blow him up I don't really know what to tell you. I'm just saying I've seen this pattern with dozens of other rappers that Dre works with. And each and every rapper walks away thinking they're the baddest motherfucker on earth, that they really know what it takes to make dope records. But keep thinking 50 is more responsible than Dre, I'll just keep :grumpy:
Thinking that 50 is more respnosible than Dre or even Em is pretty stupid. How long was 50 out before he blew up?
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Your constant 50 cent deepthroating is getting old on this forum. Everbody here knows you're a groupie. Didn't you win some award or something?It's not my fault you're too ignorant to see how much 50 fell off after GRODT. I'm just trying to help you out.
All of because of what I said about Game, without one "fuck Gayme", all with statements that are backed up by arguments, without ever calling "fucking wack." Me "winning" that just proved me that I struck peoples nerves.
Its these bloody double standards. People like 50, Jay, Em get hated on here 24/7 and people just post "lol" or "cosign" but when somebody says something bad about Game or something good about 50 hes either a dickrdyer or a groupie. Check the facts: Jome was getting hate when he gave a fuck about this, King Brant is being called a groupie every post he gets and Ill never forget how LBC 213 got called a GUnit groupie, when he backed them once and he hates them.
What you fail to realize is that 50, Jay, & Em all just put out argueably the worst albums of their respective careers. So sure, there's blind haters that dislike Jay because Cam does, but there's also people that dislike his album because it's fucking wack compared to the majority of his discography.
About 50s "after GRODT era." People are quick to hate when peopel make it. After the GRODT era people only concentraded on the bad things 50 did and the bad songs 50 created. I'll bet you this second if 50 Cent released POTD today, with the exact same songs he would get hated on.
50 chose to release "Candy Shop", "Just a Lil Bit", and "Outta Control rmx" as The Massacre singles. CS & JALB were horrible songs. Outta Control was saved by the fact that Dre remixed it. Without that fact, you just get a 3rd single that was as forgettable as the first two.
He just gets the most attention because he happened to get one of the greatest Hip Hop productions ever w/ "In Da Club" and it made him a superstar.
It as in the beat made him a superstard ? Youve gotta be kidding me. 50 made 50 a superstar. If that beat went to D12 like it was planned, it would have been nothing but your average cd joint. 50 killed that joint and it will probably go down as one of the best club joints in hip hop history.
LMAO!!!! You're making rookie mistakes here man... Just like Snoop made Snoop a star, just like Eminem made Eminem a star, just like Game made Game a star, the list goes fucking on and on and on and on. Have you not been paying attention for the last 20 years? Look at how many artists are at their absolute peak when Dr. Dre is involved in their projects. He's been THE common denominator in some of the biggest albums in the last 20 years. But keep belieiving 50 made 50 a superstar :grumpy:
And it's undoubtedly one of the best club joints in history. When you say that D-12 would have released it and it would have just been average, that's pure speculation. I believe it would have absolutely been a hit.
But say d-12 does use it? What would 50 have used for his lead single? Do you think it would have had NEAR the impact that "In Da Club" had? HELL NO.
What I meant with that comment is that 50 sure as hell didnt relly on Dre and Em to make him blow up. I mean 50 released an album 3 months after he was signed. 3 months! If that doesnt tell you something that I dont know what does. It takes artist 3 years to release a cd on Aftermath. 50s husteled like crazy, he was EVERYWHERE. Now sure Im not saying Dre had nothing to do with it, Im saying he didnt have near as much to do with it as with other artists on his label.
50 had plenty of single material on GRODT: If I Cant, P.I.M.P., Wanksta, Like My Style.
If 50 doesn't have Dr. Dre and "In Da Club" he's lucky if he ever releases an album on a major, let alone go platinum. 50 was absolutely no different than every other NY rapper prior to him signing to Shady / Aftermath. If you really believe that Dre and Em didn't blow him up I don't really know what to tell you. I'm just saying I've seen this pattern with dozens of other rappers that Dre works with. And each and every rapper walks away thinking they're the baddest motherfucker on earth, that they really know what it takes to make dope records. But keep thinking 50 is more responsible than Dre, I'll just keep :grumpy:
Thinking that 50 is more respnosible than Dre or even Em is pretty stupid. How long was 50 out before he blew up?
Years. I remember still being into rap when my uncle showed me 50 cent talking bout 'listen to this dude, he just disses everyone' even back then
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Props to SGV and Jrome.