West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: 4108 on February 11, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
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A lot of you here are from the westcoast, I am not. (but,) We are all here because we have been influenced by the western culture (me specifically, being from Texas which is a South-Western region) in some sort or fashion. So I was wondering what the Westerners personally thought about the South: Does the South influence the West? or HAVE influenced the West at some point? Do westerners feel/like any southern shit old or new? If so is it generally Texas or Georgia? Same goes for if they hate southern music out now: Texas or Georgia? (haha, and) Finally, are westerners and southerners aware of how much in common their regions actually have?
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i hate south shit. music is fucking whack and ridiculous especially from huston too lol paul wall and chamillionare. i dont like south clothes n dances n all that shit shits fucking whack, khakis n cortez beat all that bull shit. the west influenced south and all rap, backin the day every1 was havin the g-funk sound like ol school outkast n ghetto boys.
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^ i seee.
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the West has influenced everybody. Everybody took our gangsta shit, put thier little region twists to it, and try to call it thier own.
thats the same thing thats happin with the south now. South is the new rap. other regions will capitilize by taking that sound, and putting thier twist to it. thats what the Bay is doing right now...and finally thier getting attention. others will start using this trend as well, because shit sells...even if it may be trash.
no problem with the South from me, but their are many artists that rep that part of the country that cant rap shit, and is all over MTV! thats whats gay.
Scarface, UGK, Slim Thug, Chamillionaire, etc......all have great talent. 8)
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i hate south shit. music is fucking whack and ridiculous
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The only music I like from the South is the original stuff Scarface & Geto Boys
This new stuff is just B.S
I always found it strange that the 2 sounds are worlds apart
considering that it both comes from the same area.
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The only music I like from the South is the original stuff Scarface & Geto Boys
This new stuff is just B.S
I always found it strange that the 2 sounds are worlds apart
considering that it both comes from the same area.
for real fuck the NEW south shit, back when motherfuckers were broke and giving everything they had into music, is when they came out with sick shit, nowdays only thing on there mind is makin Cadillacs look fuckin' ugly with those 22" n shit. ::)
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The south is like a poor mans west coast right now. All that d boyz, pimping hoes stuff is basically the same style the west was doing 10-15 years ago and made famous. There's some good music out there but overall it's not that great.
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Get rid of JD, Dem Franchize fags, and Young Joc and I'm fine wit the South.
I remember asking this one chinese kid in my 4rth block class last year what kind of music he listened to and he said gangsta rap. I asked him what artists he listened to in that genre and he said Dem Franchize Boys. I never talked to the kid again.
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thats the same thing thats happin with the south now. South is the new rap. other regions will capitilize by taking that sound, and putting thier twist to it. thats what the Bay is doing right now...and finally thier getting attention. others will start using this trend as well, because shit sells...even if it may be trash.
could you explain to me what the new bay has to do with the south? I think Messy Marv shit for example is far from south.
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I think the west has influenced the south, and vice versa. When g-funk was popular every region figured out how to incorporate that into their music, especially the south. Artists like Scarface, the Geto Boys and UGK were all strongly influenced by g-funk. The Rap-A-Lot roster was full of g-funk type artists, including Twista and Do Or Die from Chicago. In the present day I feel the south has begun to influence the other regions. Hyphy is very similar to crunk, and Lil Jon producing for E-40 is a clear example of that.
As for the artists, I like a lot of old southern rap like Scarface, Geto Boys, UGK, Mystikal, Outkast, 5th Ward Boyz, etc. I'm not that big of a fan when it comes to the new generation of southern rap. I do like a few artists like Lil' Flip as well as the ones mentioned before. Some of the singles are okay, but a lot of it is just boring and not very creative. As for Texas or Georgia, I think Texas takes the cake because aside from Outkast (which isn't really doing anything right now) all I associate with Georgia is Dem Franchize Boys, and I cannot stand snap music.
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i live in kansas city but ever since i heard california love by pac in 95 i never let go that was the song that never left my memory EVER
but anyways as far as the south i like the OLD south lil wayne i used to like him with hot boys and TI he's better than a regular southen rapper and so is luda cris, YOUNG CHEEZY is just borin to me, but the south has bitten the shit out the west like crazy lately i mean they got lowriders and talkin botu cars and all this shit but i like the old stuff geto boys UGK screwed up click old cash money
AND I LOVE NO LIMIT RECORDS BUT EVEN THEY HAD A WEST COAST INFLUENCE THEY STARTED IN THE WEST
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^^ yeah No Limit and excedra have always had a western influence, still do today. Likewise, the West still has its southern influence of inhabiting funk as a regional sound.
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I like alot of people from the South- Bun B, TI, Chamillionare, Outkast, etc, but there's also a bunch of horrible artists
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i still hold it down for the south
the classic shit like ugkz old stuff, original scarface, geto boys shit and outkast, esg, 3-2 ....lots more 2 name r all dope
im feelin all the new shit 2: yung sean, montana, bossiliiny, slim thug, paul wall, cham, swisha house, wreckshop etc
z-ro is damn near classic
traes got some hella raw music
some of that new spark dawg shit is tight
lil bossie got some good shit except he can get annoyin fast
lil flip still holds it down and hes better than t.i.
project pats new cd got some krzie shit ....purple with beanie sigel
pastor troy still holdin it down
three 6 still tight includin all the ex members
the new cruncy black aint that great but the 1st three tracks r the shit
u cant hate the south plus the south always gives props 2 the westcoast
ALWAYS
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i hear its pretty hot down there
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If you look almost every single person on here who says they dislike the South, they come with a very ignorant statement. Most, if not all, formulate their opinion of the South off of a hand full of artists...
i hate south shit. music is fucking whack and ridiculous especially from huston too lol paul wall and chamillionare. i dont like south clothes n dances n all that shit shits fucking whack, khakis n cortez beat all that bull shit. the west influenced south and all rap, backin the day every1 was havin the g-funk sound like ol school outkast n ghetto boys.
Funny you say that with Daz and Kurupt in your sig. Enough said there...
no problem with the South from me, but their are many artists that rep that part of the country that cant rap shit, and is all over MTV! thats whats gay.
Name names... [size=02pt](I'll take a guess: Mike Jones, D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz)[/size]
could you explain to me what the new bay has to do with the south? I think Messy Marv shit for example is far from south.
Are you fuckin' kidding me? Messy Marv makes a good amount of joints that scream Southern Influence.
As for Texas or Georgia, I think Texas takes the cake because aside from Outkast (which isn't really doing anything right now) all I associate with Georgia is Dem Franchize Boys, and I cannot stand snap music.
You've never heard of Goodie Mob? Pastor Troy? Da Backwudz? Bubba Sparxxx? T.I.? Young Jeezy? Seems like you haven't... Don't be ignorant... Please.
but the south has bitten the shit out the west like crazy lately i mean they got lowriders
The South, right now, isn't riding lowriders, as a majority. Maybe an artist here or there, but look at most of their videos, all their cars are sitting on big rims. Just makes me think you don't really pay attention. I think you got too much of MC Eiht's 1993 Gheri Curl juice running down your face. LMAO @ An MC Eiht fan calling Young Jeezy boring.
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lol@lowriders...we dont have that shit out here maaan
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Feeling the south alot... Production has been crazy the past years, and a lot of dope albums.. i probably listened to more south shit last year than west / east shit. the music is mostly carried by the production, but the overall swagger of the south right now and the whole movement is dope, they sound like they're having fun and theres a lot of music coming out!
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i like some artists from the south like bun b ugk, scarface, chamillionnaire, s.u.c, z-ro, trae. But i hate all the ones who are wack and talentless
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i hate some artists from the south like bun b ugk, scarface, chamillionnaire, s.u.c, z-ro, trae. But i hate all the ones who are wack and talentless
You hate Bun B? Scarface? Chamillionaire? Wtf? Z-Ro and Trae? Holy shit.
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slim thug. z-ro, lil flip and other s are pretty good artists
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i hate some artists from the south like bun b ugk, scarface, chamillionnaire, s.u.c, z-ro, trae. But i hate all the ones who are wack and talentless
You hate Bun B? Scarface? Chamillionaire? Wtf? Z-Ro and Trae? Holy shit.
I think he meant to say "I LIKE some artists"
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i hate some artists from the south like bun b ugk, scarface, chamillionnaire, s.u.c, z-ro, trae. But i hate all the ones who are wack and talentless
You hate Bun B? Scarface? Chamillionaire? Wtf? Z-Ro and Trae? Holy shit.
I think he meant to say "I LIKE some artists"
thx
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SGV I was thinking something similar when I read those comments. I chose not to comment on them personally because I made this thread with open arms, even though the south has had a huger impact/influence on the game than one would think. Im from Dallas, TX but ATL > TX. The dungeon family alone will f**k the game over.
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i cant stand that snap rap bullshit that they are making down there...i dont understand why people would support these talentless fucks like D4L, Ying Yang twins, etc...but i like lot of southern rappers like T.I, UGK, Cham, 3 6, and some others..
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The only music I like from the South is the original stuff Scarface & Geto Boys
This new stuff is just B.S
I always found it strange that the 2 sounds are worlds apart
considering that it both comes from the same area.
for real fuck the NEW south shit, back when motherfuckers were broke and giving everything they had into music, is when they came out with sick shit, nowdays only thing on there mind is makin Cadillacs look fuckin' ugly with those 22" n shit. ::)
isnt that what all hiphop seems to go through? ???
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T.I.,Ludacris,Z-Ro,Trae,Killer Mike,Bun B,Chamillionaire,Big Boi,Andre 3000,Trick Daddy,Devin the Dude,Ganksta Nip,the Geto Boys etc etc have all produced a gang of dope shit over the years so that whole shit about the south ruining hip hop is hilarious.
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You know what makes me laugh is the fact that most of these cats hollerin' all this "the South is that bullshit" or "I don't like so and so cuz all that Snappin is wack, but I fucks with this dude just cuz" if you go through their post history, you'll see them cry when East Coast cats said the same thing about the West. "Oh the West? Them dudes is wack." "Gangsta Rap? That's wack shit. Dudes like MC Ehit are wack, but I fuck with Souls of Mischief." This aint anything different. Fuckin hypocrites.
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You know what makes me laugh is the fact that most of these cats hollerin' all this "the South is that bullshit" or "I don't like so and so cuz all that Snappin is wack, but I fucks with this dude just cuz" if you go through their post history, you'll see them cry when East Coast cats said the same thing about the West. "Oh the West? Them dudes is wack." "Gangsta Rap? That's wack shit. Dudes like MC Ehit are wack, but I fuck with Souls of Mischief." This aint anything different. Fuckin hypocrites.
Whats wrong with saying the South is wack on a westcoast hiphop forum? Do you actually think people in here would say, ''yea the south got that dope music''. Its just a matter of different taste. So for me the south is wack cuz its not my kind of music. And i like the West better cuz they got my kind of music.
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Whats wrong with saying the South is wack on a westcoast hiphop forum? Do you actually think people in here would say, ''yea the south got that dope music''. Its just a matter of different taste. So for me the south is wack cuz its not my kind of music. And i like the West better cuz they got my kind of music.
That's fine if you don't like it... No one is saying you have to like it. I'm saying, don't put a region like the South down, when you were crying when the East did it to the South, cuz you're doing the same thing (not saying you, just speaking generally). Don't down Snap/Crunk music when the West has Hyphy, which is no different. Don't down the South for having weak rappers rep commercially, cuz the West had the same.
If you want to say "the South doesn't catch my ear," that's fine. If you want to say "I'm ignorant and only like West Coast music," that's fine. But, don't come trying to hate if you have no clue what you're talking about.
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The South has stole most of the concepts of the west coast and added their twist to it, to me it sounds gay... Like everyone has stole some sort of style or concept from the west coast and made it their own, which is cool because it shows influence but its wack when the same region that stole it (for example NYC) but they diss the west coast and dont play they records.. now that is wack, as for the south Scarface, Rap a Lot, Outkast, Luda these are some tite artists from the south but than u have a gang of wack shit that is sellin like Yung joc, that shit is so wack and i cant believe it sells.. its like even though NYC steals shit they dont make it sound that wack, hahaha.. South stole shit but they made it sound wack as hell... i know the south has influence the West is some ways too, i just think the South has some of the wackest music when it comes to Hip Hop period...
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The West influence all genres of music period!
Alot of the New South stuff is just gimick music to bump in the club and to get rich quick off of a dance or whatever! Some of it is cool though I guess!
The only South music that I can listen to and feel like there was some kind of creativity and time put into making it great music is anything that Oukast has done and/or doing! People fail to realize that they are the ones who put the south on the map PERIOD! Lyrics, style, creativity! Call them what you want to but their track record speaks for itself! You can't deny them at all!
The West had an influence on them because of the G-FUnk movement at that time but Outkast was smart enough to reform it and create a sound that was their own!
They are to the South what Tha Dogg Pound should've been to the West! I think in that sense, we are alike but that other gimmick southern music is jus a rip off of our 808 bass and claps that we used 20 years back!
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If you look almost every single person on here who says they dislike the South, they come with a very ignorant statement. Most, if not all, formulate their opinion of the South off of a hand full of artists...
i hate south shit. music is fucking whack and ridiculous especially from huston too lol paul wall and chamillionare. i dont like south clothes n dances n all that shit shits fucking whack, khakis n cortez beat all that bull shit. the west influenced south and all rap, backin the day every1 was havin the g-funk sound like ol school outkast n ghetto boys.
Funny you say that with Daz and Kurupt in your sig. Enough said there...
no problem with the South from me, but their are many artists that rep that part of the country that cant rap shit, and is all over MTV! thats whats gay.
Name names... [size=02pt](I'll take a guess: Mike Jones, D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz)[/size]
could you explain to me what the new bay has to do with the south? I think Messy Marv shit for example is far from south.
Are you fuckin' kidding me? Messy Marv makes a good amount of joints that scream Southern Influence.
As for Texas or Georgia, I think Texas takes the cake because aside from Outkast (which isn't really doing anything right now) all I associate with Georgia is Dem Franchize Boys, and I cannot stand snap music.
You've never heard of Goodie Mob? Pastor Troy? Da Backwudz? Bubba Sparxxx? T.I.? Young Jeezy? Seems like you haven't... Don't be ignorant... Please.
but the south has bitten the shit out the west like crazy lately i mean they got lowriders
The South, right now, isn't riding lowriders, as a majority. Maybe an artist here or there, but look at most of their videos, all their cars are sitting on big rims. Just makes me think you don't really pay attention. I think you got too much of MC Eiht's 1993 Gheri Curl juice running down your face. LMAO @ An MC Eiht fan calling Young Jeezy boring.
i see wut u saying but no one had cars and showin them off until the west came then the east came with mercedes and bentleys then the south with 28 inch rims and shit.
BUT U GONNA TELL ME THAT YOU'D RATHER LISTEN TO JEEZY INSTEAD OF MC EIHT, JEEZY IS BORIN AND ANNOYING, EIHT ISN'T THE BEST LYRICALLY BUT HE'S SMOOTH AND COOL JEEZY TRIES TOO HARD
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-Let's not act like The West is the only region who's inspired the other ones. The East has easily inspired the rap game more than any other region...why? Because they created it! Being that we are West Coast fans, we will always notice and point out every single thing that the south and east takes from us...but we'll ignore every single thing that we've taken from them. Black music as a whole is from the south, so they've basically inspired everything that rap has become, without even having to rap.
-SGV is right about how many cats will knock the south just as the east knocked the West in the 90's. I think the south is much too big to ever generalize, and the bad thing for them is that the companies are ONLY going to sign and push artists that have the "crunk" sound to them, just as in the 90's, there weren't many West Coast artists outside of the gangsta style who really got promoted and blew up at a major level. Just as we had Souls of Mischief and Pharcyde, the South has Little Brother, who may be known throughout the country, but will never get the respect they deserve because they aren't "commercial" enough.
-I've been in school in the south (Florida) since 2002, and I can say that there has been a whole lot that I like and dislike about the south's music scene overall. As far as the local talent I've heard around Georgia and Florida, most of the rappers just aren't up to par. However....their artists have a LOT more hustle than what I've seen from many cats on the West. Being unbiased, I have met more dope rappers in L.A. than I've met out here....but at the same time, most of these artists in L.A. don't have the hustle, business savvy, or the patience that it takes to make it and get their music out there. Many artists in the south may be average or below average as rappers, but the reason they become big is not just because of the fact that they do every single thing they can to get pushed, but because their local areas support the hell out of them.
In L.A., you'll hear a LOT, and I mean a LOOOOOOOOT of cats say this....."man...Lil Scrappy, D4l, Franchize Boyz, all them fools suck!!! I am a much better rapper than they are!! They just make catchy commercial club BS!! Eff that, my cousin is down with Aftermath, and my best friend has a connect with Def Jam, so I am gonna do this mixtape over the beats that are hottest right now, and I am gonna get signed and blow up!!!" Most of them may do a lil mixtape, but won't really put major effort into getting it out their in the community because they think they'll get signed just because their music is good, regardless of if it is or not. In the south, rappers will comment on who's dope and who's not, but they don't have that attitude that says "I am better than Wayne/Jeezy/Scrappy, therefore I deserve to be signed!!!" They will use every single connect they have, get their songs on the radio and in clubs, and keep doin it until a major company pays attention to them.
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Man people either promoting beef with a coast to get a name or disliking a region off of 1 or 2 artists and not hearing enough of a collective group of artists. Real recognize real. The west has always been down with the south. Game, Snoop, Cube, Mack 10, Crooked I, WC, the list goes on and on artists out here collabing with Southern artists. For me, I like that Rap-A-Lot shit. Mike Dean, Mr. Lee, John Bido, N.O. Joe. Scarface's catalog is sick, Luda doin his thing, Chamillionaire, UGK there are alot of dope artists everywhere. But if you are listening to the radio or 106 and Park you probably won't find alot of these artists but they out there. That is why I was diggin the War Disc so much. N.O. Joe did like have of the album and those beats were knockin. Man a well produced southern album with a mc that can spit can hold its own with any album from any coast.
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If you look almost every single person on here who says they dislike the South, they come with a very ignorant statement. Most, if not all, formulate their opinion of the South off of a hand full of artists...
i hate south shit. music is fucking whack and ridiculous especially from huston too lol paul wall and chamillionare. i dont like south clothes n dances n all that shit shits fucking whack, khakis n cortez beat all that bull shit. the west influenced south and all rap, backin the day every1 was havin the g-funk sound like ol school outkast n ghetto boys.
Funny you say that with Daz and Kurupt in your sig. Enough said there...
no problem with the South from me, but their are many artists that rep that part of the country that cant rap shit, and is all over MTV! thats whats gay.
Name names... [size=02pt](I'll take a guess: Mike Jones, D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz)[/size]
could you explain to me what the new bay has to do with the south? I think Messy Marv shit for example is far from south.
Are you fuckin' kidding me? Messy Marv makes a good amount of joints that scream Southern Influence.
As for Texas or Georgia, I think Texas takes the cake because aside from Outkast (which isn't really doing anything right now) all I associate with Georgia is Dem Franchize Boys, and I cannot stand snap music.
You've never heard of Goodie Mob? Pastor Troy? Da Backwudz? Bubba Sparxxx? T.I.? Young Jeezy? Seems like you haven't... Don't be ignorant... Please.
but the south has bitten the shit out the west like crazy lately i mean they got lowriders
The South, right now, isn't riding lowriders, as a majority. Maybe an artist here or there, but look at most of their videos, all their cars are sitting on big rims. Just makes me think you don't really pay attention. I think you got too much of MC Eiht's 1993 Gheri Curl juice running down your face. LMAO @ An MC Eiht fan calling Young Jeezy boring.
your an idiot. lol what kind of fucking nerd are you? judgin my opinion from my sig goddamn ur a dumbfuck. i ddont like artists for their new shit they comin out wit or if they changd they style for 1 album. dumbfuck
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You know what makes me laugh is the fact that most of these cats hollerin' all this "the South is that bullshit" or "I don't like so and so cuz all that Snappin is wack, but I fucks with this dude just cuz" if you go through their post history, you'll see them cry when East Coast cats said the same thing about the West. "Oh the West? Them dudes is wack." "Gangsta Rap? That's wack shit. Dudes like MC Ehit are wack, but I fuck with Souls of Mischief." This aint anything different. Fuckin hypocrites.
your a fucking idiot. obviously people have different opinions because people like different shit. dumbfuck is not being hyprocrites its what their ear likes. ur a goddamn idiot.
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This is a good topic..
I'm actually a Southern Cali native but now a resident of Houston..
Both coasts have major talent. When they put effort into their music, they can make some classics.
The difference between both coasts is the pressure put on them. See.. NY is known for having the better lyricists so if you come from there you gotta have lyrical skills.. The West Coast is known for their hardcore/playa/pimp style so you gotta have some street credibility to be successful there.. The south doesn't have the pressure of either. So they can do whatever. They basically use everyone's style and then create their own when they skew it..
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If you look almost every single person on here who says they dislike the South, they come with a very ignorant statement. Most, if not all, formulate their opinion of the South off of a hand full of artists...
i hate south shit. music is fucking whack and ridiculous especially from huston too lol paul wall and chamillionare. i dont like south clothes n dances n all that shit shits fucking whack, khakis n cortez beat all that bull shit. the west influenced south and all rap, backin the day every1 was havin the g-funk sound like ol school outkast n ghetto boys.
Funny you say that with Daz and Kurupt in your sig. Enough said there...
no problem with the South from me, but their are many artists that rep that part of the country that cant rap shit, and is all over MTV! thats whats gay.
Name names... [size=02pt](I'll take a guess: Mike Jones, D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz)[/size]
could you explain to me what the new bay has to do with the south? I think Messy Marv shit for example is far from south.
Are you fuckin' kidding me? Messy Marv makes a good amount of joints that scream Southern Influence.
As for Texas or Georgia, I think Texas takes the cake because aside from Outkast (which isn't really doing anything right now) all I associate with Georgia is Dem Franchize Boys, and I cannot stand snap music.
You've never heard of Goodie Mob? Pastor Troy? Da Backwudz? Bubba Sparxxx? T.I.? Young Jeezy? Seems like you haven't... Don't be ignorant... Please.
but the south has bitten the shit out the west like crazy lately i mean they got lowriders
The South, right now, isn't riding lowriders, as a majority. Maybe an artist here or there, but look at most of their videos, all their cars are sitting on big rims. Just makes me think you don't really pay attention. I think you got too much of MC Eiht's 1993 Gheri Curl juice running down your face. LMAO @ An MC Eiht fan calling Young Jeezy boring.
your an idiot. lol what kind of fucking nerd are you? judgin my opinion from my sig goddamn ur a dumbfuck. i ddont like artists for their new shit they comin out wit or if they changd they style for 1 album. dumbfuck
yea he did that too me bet chu he got deion sandersin his cd player right now
IT MUST BE THE MONEY
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Project pat i can bump all day but that new south shit is WACK !!!!!!! 8) 8)
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i liek the old no limti and cash money i admit i used to liek lil wayne but when everybody started sayin he was the shit jus tswayed me away from him
and the old prophet posse shit was just fucking INSANE
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LMFAO @ the cats that said that the south stole itīs sound from the west. that shit is officially the most retarded shit iīve ever seen. know why? coz all of that music that Dre,Quik,Cat,Warren etc sampled was from the south. so those southern rappers actually stole from the south lol.
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Whats wrong with saying the South is wack on a westcoast hiphop forum? Do you actually think people in here would say, ''yea the south got that dope music''. Its just a matter of different taste. So for me the south is wack cuz its not my kind of music. And i like the West better cuz they got my kind of music.
That's fine if you don't like it... No one is saying you have to like it. I'm saying, don't put a region like the South down, when you were crying when the East did it to the South, cuz you're doing the same thing (not saying you, just speaking generally). Don't down Snap/Crunk music when the West has Hyphy, which is no different. Don't down the South for having weak rappers rep commercially, cuz the West had the same.
If you want to say "the South doesn't catch my ear," that's fine. If you want to say "I'm ignorant and only like West Coast music," that's fine. But, don't come trying to hate if you have no clue what you're talking about.
I get what your saying, each coast has a style of their own. And you cant hate on that. But why are you getting so worked up about this?
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the west and the south has always been doin songs 2gether since they 90's... spice 1 mc eiht ice cube snoop, yuk,2pac all did songs wit scarface and rap a lot..e-40 mac mall too short been doin songs wit ugk and ball and G shit even deathrow had texas act on they label back in the day and bushwich bill was on the chronic. As far as the south stealin from the west coast i dont think they stole from the west i think the west sure did influence the south if u listen to old south records they do have a west coast sound to them even outkast once said they took the west coast live instrumentation and east coast lyricism for their 1st album and ugk re did a above the law record so the south was mos def influence by the west.
i like the south lil wayne dungeon family devin the dude young jeezy three six mafia luda ti etc all put out good music..and DFB D4L Joc you put them on at any club i bet you the club would go crazy cuzz thats what their meant for they aint here to put out super lyrical i read the dictionary all the time type music
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LMFAO @ the cats that said that the south stole itīs sound from the west. that shit is officially the most retarded shit iīve ever seen. know why? coz all of that music that Dre,Quik,Cat,Warren etc sampled was from the south. so those southern rappers actually stole from the south lol.
Yeah that's basically the same thing I said in my post....rap itself came from the soulful sound of the South and the Midwest, with only a few major cats hailing from the East or West Coast.
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LMFAO @ the cats that said that the south stole itīs sound from the west. that shit is officially the most retarded shit iīve ever seen. know why? coz all of that music that Dre,Quik,Cat,Warren etc sampled was from the south. so those southern rappers actually stole from the south lol.
Yeah that's basically the same thing I said in my post....rap itself came from the soulful sound of the South and the Midwest, with only a few major cats hailing from the East or West Coast.
yep, thatīs another reason why itīs hilarious to hear them NY hoes talking about how their doin real hip hop and the south is ruining hip hop. but them fuck boys be the ones rapping over beats with James Brown breaks and cuts, but their prolly to fucking stupid to realize that if it wasnīt for the south they wouldnīt even be rapping. the south is responsible for all black music in America so nobody can say that the south has stolen anything from anyone.
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your an idiot. lol what kind of fucking nerd are you? judgin my opinion from my sig goddamn ur a dumbfuck. i ddont like artists for their new shit they comin out wit or if they changd they style for 1 album. dumbfuck
I'm an idiot and a dumbfuck? Check your spelling...
So, you're saying you don't like Daz and Kurupt for their new shit? You only like them for their 12 year old material?
your a fucking idiot. obviously people have different opinions because people like different shit. dumbfuck is not being hyprocrites its what their ear likes. ur a goddamn idiot.
Again... Check the spelling kiddo.
So, I'll break it down for you. I laugh because people like you cry that "Oh the East Coast was haters!!!!" and yet, you turn around and do the same thing to the South. THAT'S being a hypocrite "dumbfuck."
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Im fine with the mostly that come's from the south like Bun B, 3 6, UGK, Pimp-C and so on like them they are fine but d4l, mike jones, dem franchize shits and thoose can go jump off a cliff..
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This is a good topic..
I'm actually a Southern Cali native but now a resident of Houston..
Both coasts have major talent. When they put effort into their music, they can make some classics.
The difference between both coasts is the pressure put on them. See.. NY is known for having the better lyricists so if you come from there you gotta have lyrical skills.. The West Coast is known for their hardcore/playa/pimp style so you gotta have some street credibility to be successful there.. The south doesn't have the pressure of either. So they can do whatever. They basically use everyone's style and then create their own when they skew it..
Who's style does the South use? LOL. People here keep saying the South steals this, they use that, etc. etc. But have nothing to back it up.
When was the last time you heard a Brooklyn cat on some "It's Going Down" shit? When was the last time you heard a dude from East L.A. talk about "Get Buck" ?? I mean get real... Shit doesn't happen. Down South beats are their own, their lyrics are their own... They're slang is their own.
LMAO @ The South steals shit... Yet the West doesn't get hit for taking Crunk and turning it into Hyphy.
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Im fine with the mostly that come's from the south like Bun B, 3 6, UGK, Pimp-C and so on like them they are fine but d4l, mike jones, dem franchize shits and thoose can go jump off a cliff..
the thing is that the east coast and west coast got just as many artists that are just as weak as D4L and i donīt hear people bitching about them.
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the thing is that the east coast and west coast got just as many artists that are just as weak as D4L and i donīt hear people bitching about them.
Thank you.
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Im fine with the mostly that come's from the south like Bun B, 3 6, UGK, Pimp-C and so on like them they are fine but d4l, mike jones, dem franchize shits and thoose can go jump off a cliff..
the thing is that the east coast and west coast got just as many artists that are just as weak as D4L and i don´t hear people bitching about them.
Yeah I'm feeling you.. I'm almost only banging music from the south nowdays.. But i don't really hating on anyone, every cat is doing their own thang so and appearantly It's selling good so...
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Im fine with the mostly that come's from the south like Bun B, 3 6, UGK, Pimp-C and so on like them they are fine but d4l, mike jones, dem franchize shits and thoose can go jump off a cliff..
the thing is that the east coast and west coast got just as many artists that are just as weak as D4L and i donīt hear people bitching about them.
Yeah I'm feeling you.. I'm almost only banging music from the south nowdays.. But i don't really hating on anyone, every cat is doing their own thang so and appearantly It's selling good so.....
that statement wasnīt really aimed at you, i meant it more in general. coz itīs like everytime someone says something good about the south someone else gotta say "yeah but Mike Jones,Franchise,Scrappy,Lil Jon are ruining hip hop so the southīs wack". that would be like sayin the entire east coast is wack coz of artists like Yayo+every single mixtape rapper etc. so does having wack artists take away from the fact that thereīs great artists in every region aswell? thatīs the double standard that it usually comes down to when dealing with the whole issue about the south ruining hip hop. and thatīs what bothers me when these wack New York mixtape rappers gotta bring it up, coz that would be like sayin that people shouldnīt give the east coast greats like Rakim and Kool G Rap their props coz of wack ass mixtape homos like themselves.
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Im fine with the mostly that come's from the south like Bun B, 3 6, UGK, Pimp-C and so on like them they are fine but d4l, mike jones, dem franchize shits and thoose can go jump off a cliff..
the thing is that the east coast and west coast got just as many artists that are just as weak as D4L and i donīt hear people bitching about them.
Yeah I'm feeling you.. I'm almost only banging music from the south nowdays.. But i don't really hating on anyone, every cat is doing their own thang so and appearantly It's selling good so.....
that statement wasnīt really aimed at you, i meant it more in general. coz itīs like everytime someone says something good about the south someone else gotta say "yeah but Mike Jones,Franchise,Scrappy,Lil Jon are ruining hip hop so the southīs wack". that would be like sayin the entire east coast is wack coz of artists like Yayo+every single mixtape rapper etc. so does having wack artists take away from the fact that thereīs great artists in every region aswell? thatīs the double standard that it usually comes down to when dealing with the whole issue about the south ruining hip hop. and thatīs what bothers me when these wack New York mixtape rappers gotta bring it up, coz that would be like sayin that people shouldnīt give the east coast greats like Rakim and Kool G Rap their props coz of wack ass mixtape homos like themselves.
Yeah i understood that it wasn't aimed at me but im feeling you what you are saying.
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My 2 cents:
The only problem I have with the South is that they dominated hip-hop with some wack music. Every time I turn on the radio or TV, I see some wack ass songs. Yes they have a lot of talented arts, but so does every coast. But the ones I constantly hear aren't the talented ones, but the wack ass shit like D4L and DFB (yes SGV, I said it). So people are naturally going to resent that. If I were to venture a guess, I'd say West, East and South all have a lot of talent. Most people in this thread already mentioned a lot of my favorite artists (No one menetioned P$C though. And Cham is killing anyone in hip-hop these days). I'd rather listen to Cham, Lil Flip, or T.I., rather then these washed up rappers in the West that fail to realize no one cares about them anymore. R-Tistic sumed it up pretty nicely. The South just knows how to run hip-hop. They stay on there grind, the locals support it, and because of that they get all the spins. Personally, I genreally like West Coast rap and East Coast rap better then Southern rap. So suck a dick if you don't like it. And don't give me this BS that black music came from the South therefore everyone is copying the South. In hip-hop everyone's borrowing/copying/stealing anyones material they can. One thing I'll give to the South is that they are just more creative then any other coast.
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SGV you're speaking the truth! Word!
U dudes need 2 recognize that the south do a lot of different shit. For the clubs they got Snap,Crunk&Bounce. For the streets they got Gangster rap&Horrorcore. So take your pick,if u don't like x don't listen2 it,it's that simple. I ain't a big fan of Hyphy but I ain't gonna clown a whole region for that,I simply choose 2listen 2 whatever I like.
Like SGV said in a previous post,crunk ain't that far from Hyphy
I can only imagine if an East Coast cat came on here & said: "Man all that DoggPound& E-40 shit is wack! I can't believe the West got big off shit like that"
All u guys would come in here screaming blasphemy. Its the same thing. Singling out just a pocket full of artists does not make a region wak.
Theres Scarface&theres D4L
THE TRUTH!
Turn OFF the radio!
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your an idiot. lol what kind of fucking nerd are you? judgin my opinion from my sig goddamn ur a dumbfuck. i ddont like artists for their new shit they comin out wit or if they changd they style for 1 album. dumbfuck
I'm an idiot and a dumbfuck? Check your spelling...
So, you're saying you don't like Daz and Kurupt for their new shit? You only like them for their 12 year old material?
your a fucking idiot. obviously people have different opinions because people like different shit. dumbfuck is not being hyprocrites its what their ear likes. ur a goddamn idiot.
Again... Check the spelling kiddo.
So, I'll break it down for you. I laugh because people like you cry that "Oh the East Coast was haters!!!!" and yet, you turn around and do the same thing to the South. THAT'S being a hypocrite "dumbfuck."
lol shut the fuck up. and why would i give a fuck if people hate on the westcoast fucking pointless me givin a fuck. thats why you are a dumbass, sayin bull shit like that and sayin i should check the spelling. lol u juz wanna get teh last diss n it seems like thats wut u care about. lol in the first thign u quoted me bout did i say kurupt n daz? i was juz sayin in general u dumb piece of shit.
ur a fucking idiot i lay down my opinion bout the south and lol you say all this bull shit and assume i give a fuck wut other people think bout the westcoast. if u like the south shit go head listen to that bull shit and u change the subject n try to diss tryna put words in my mouth.
i dont give a fuck wut u like but it amazes me that there are people like you in the world.
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I can only imagine if an East Coast cat came on here and said: "Man all that Dogg Pound, E-40, Spice 1 shit is wack! I can't believe the West got big off shit like that."
All you guys would come in here screaming blasphemy. Its the same thing. Singling out just a pocket full of artists does not make a region wack.
Theres Luda and theres D4L. Theres T.I. and theres DFB. Theres Chamilionaire and theres Mike Jones. So the "quality" cancels the "garbage" out. Why stick on the bad and just say "some of the shit from the South is not my taste, but I fuck with _____."
But coming in strictly hating is just ignorant cuz we all know if it was the other way around you guys would have a hissy fit.
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LooN3y: You made a generalizing statement so I made one. Don't be mad. You look like you're a little upset now. Answer the question, do you not like Daz and Kurupt now? That answer will tell me a lot about your tastes and your thoughts.
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This is a good topic..
I'm actually a Southern Cali native but now a resident of Houston..
Both coasts have major talent. When they put effort into their music, they can make some classics.
The difference between both coasts is the pressure put on them. See.. NY is known for having the better lyricists so if you come from there you gotta have lyrical skills.. The West Coast is known for their hardcore/playa/pimp style so you gotta have some street credibility to be successful there.. The south doesn't have the pressure of either. So they can do whatever. They basically use everyone's style and then create their own when they skew it..
Who's style does the South use? LOL. People here keep saying the South steals this, they use that, etc. etc. But have nothing to back it up.
When was the last time you heard a Brooklyn cat on some "It's Going Down" shit? When was the last time you heard a dude from East L.A. talk about "Get Buck" ?? I mean get real... Shit doesn't happen. Down South beats are their own, their lyrics are their own... They're slang is their own.
LMAO @ The South steals shit... Yet the West doesn't get hit for taking Crunk and turning it into Hyphy.
who used the word 'steal'?
man.. this conversation is going to end up being a "who rapped first" type of argument. And i aint trying to get into that with you homie.. Because i'm sure we can research and find some African tribe who rapped first.. So why even take it there?
my original post focuses strictly on lyrical content. Considering that rap music in general is 99% influenced by others you can't say that the south wasn't influenced by the other coasts who were doing rap music longer.
TI states his west coast influences on his last album
Geto Boys have acknowledged their influences from NWA and Run DMC.
Master P was influenced during his time in Oakland.
i can go on if you'd like, but i hope those are enough to sustain my point. :)
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i got love 4 the south. Geto boys, Luke, Eightball & MJG, Outkast...All legends How many states is that..Texas, FL, GA, and TN. Theres no way u can't feel anything in the south.
Flixx
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Look through this thread, youll see people say the South "stole."
As for your "the South has influences from the West" portion of your post. I know for a fac you would be able to find similar influences in West Coast artists (as far as Southern influence). So I dont really see where youre going with that. Everyone influences everyone.
Rappers like Yukmouth, E-40 and Messy Marv have HUGE influence from the South. Same with dudes like Snoop. If you really want to get technical, Rick Rock is from the South ans his Sound is heard on a good majority of Bay projects. Isnt Nate originally from the South as well? The influence on West from the South is here just as much as it is from the West to the South.
Most people are to ignoarant or blind to the fact that this is all true. Im not. I see every side. I dont like regions, i like music.
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Music is music. If ya like it, bump it, if ya hate it, leave it alone. If the artist is dope, I could care less where they are from.
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I dont like regions, i like music.
thats sums it all up, +1 :)
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I can only imagine if an East Coast cat came on here and said: "Man all that Dogg Pound, E-40, Spice 1 shit is wack! I can't believe the West got big off shit like that."
All you guys would come in here screaming blasphemy. Its the same thing. Singling out just a pocket full of artists does not make a region wack.
Theres Luda and theres D4L. Theres T.I. and theres DFB. Theres Chamilionaire and theres Mike Jones. So the "quality" cancels the "garbage" out. Why stick on the bad and just say "some of the shit from the South is not my taste, but I fuck with _____."
But coming in strictly hating is just ignorant cuz we all know if it was the other way around you guys would have a hissy fit.
LooN3y: You made a generalizing statement so I made one. Don't be mad. You look like you're a little upset now. Answer the question, do you not like Daz and Kurupt now? That answer will tell me a lot about your tastes and your thoughts.
yea i like them but their not as good as they used to be obviously. same goes out to many other old rappers but id rather bump CIA or SSDD than south bullshit.
id gives a damn if mutha fuckas hate on the west. id no1 else should give a damn too, mutha fuckas have their own opinion and if you give a damn bout what other people think your very ignorant.
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Im trippin off this faggot who thinks he knows something about real music - SGV , MC Eiht and soul of misheif ??? You cant even compare the two becuz who really knows souls of M ??? WHERE ARE THEY NOW ??? , Any of Eihts & CMW albums will piss on that wack bullshit FUCC THAT CORNY SHIT , WE DONT BUMP THAT SHIT !!!!!!!!!!
ONE OF THE BEST DOWNSOUTH & WESTCOAST COLLABO'S EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. MC EIHT & SCARFACE - " N 2 DEEP" off MUSIC 2 DRIVEBY CLASSIC !!!!!!!!!!!1
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Ur talkin bout talent? What happen'd to the day when people spit in 1/8... now people spit in quarters...Lyrics over peoples heads now adays...
west > south
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As for Texas or Georgia, I think Texas takes the cake because aside from Outkast (which isn't really doing anything right now) all I associate with Georgia is Dem Franchize Boys, and I cannot stand snap music.
You've never heard of Goodie Mob? Pastor Troy? Da Backwudz? Bubba Sparxxx? T.I.? Young Jeezy? Seems like you haven't... Don't be ignorant... Please.
Fair enough. I like Goodie Mob, Pastor Troy and Bubba Sparxxx. I never really paid attention to what part of the south they were from. Not really a fan of T.I. and Young Jeezy though. I've only heard one single from Da Backwudz and didn't really care for it.
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I like a lot of south music, south + west can make great music together
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/august/dely-lean_on_the_wall-(feat-e_white-celly_cell-dresta)-(westcoast_remix)-(dubcnn).mp3
dresta murders that last verse 8)
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mainstream music sucks everywhere. but the fukin south got some of the best shit...ugk, geto boys, outkast, goodie mobb, killer mike, three 6 mafia, project pat, guerilla maab, HAWK, eightball & mjg, devin the dude, gangsta pat, the rest of screwed up click...too much good shit
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lol @ looney catching feelings
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Well, me being an outsider(not from west or south or even America), my view is that south is suffering from being judged from all their whack commercail artists(and theres so many of them) so people probably sleep on all rappers from that region, but my first thought when i think south is admittedly whack. But as others have stated theres alot of good south hip hop and old school south was never crunk.
I dont just mean ghetto boys and the like i mean, i got a mate that is real inta south, most hip hop heads that i know are into eastcoast stuff and knock gangsta rap, but anyway this dude was inta south and i dont remember south being crunk or so wack, like they didnt rap all slow an shit. They always had their slang but i remember south rap all being really fast, like bone thugs an twista style, and very dark and evil/dark soundin. I guess in the old three six mafia era an names like Kamakaze, M-child, Scan man, cruchy black, Coopsta nicca, Kingpin skinny pimp shit i forget and then i remember the no limit era they seemed really wahck at frst but then i got the westcaost bad boys albums an snoop was headin over there and i realsied that dudes like mac, serve on, mystical, soulja slim , etc were pretty good.
I always thought that west and south had similararities, well they were much more alike that west an east or south an east.
I can seen west inflouence in south but these days westcoast rap is incredably south sounding.
What westcoast rapper dosent have south sounding beats? and use south slang? so much south style in westcoast, snoop an DPG are good examples and of course as mentioned theres "hypy".
All the big guns, ice cube, snoop, doin south style tracks.
I guess what evers hot people get influenced by and then theres marketing.
Oh and most westcoast rappers that are lyrical are very eastcoast influenced/dont talk about gangsta shit(crooked i an exception) and rap over more east sounding beats alot of the time.
I find most non American rap is like old school rap, sound eastcoast.
Guess things change with the times.
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SOUTH STRAIGHT UP MAKIN AND MADE SUM WACKEST SHIT IN HIP HOP
BUT CANT HATE LEGENDS FROM SOUTH......... AND THERE ARE RAPPERS THAT ARE DOPE FROM SOUTH BUT DIDNT MAKE IT. STAT BOBBY CREEK ETC
MOST OF MAINSTREAM SOUTH MUSIC IS STRAIGHT UP BULLSHIT. EXCEPT FO THEM DOPE ASS CLUB SONGS .. U GOTTA HAV SUM CLUB SONGS ....
PERSONALLY I CANT STAND SOUTH CRUNK CHOPPED AND SCREWED BULLSHIT
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it's funny that alotta ppl who posted on here ain't even from the WestCoast, just like 95% of ppl on here aren't. no disrespects but you can't say that this is "The Wests' opinion on the South" when most of the ppl on here are foreigners or don't even live in Cali or any states on the WestCoast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri8aVR91G8s
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it's funny that alotta ppl who posted on here ain't even from the WestCoast, just like 95% of ppl on here aren't. no disrespects but you can't say that this is "The Wests' opinion on the South" when most of the ppl on here are foreigners or don't even live in Cali or any states on the WestCoast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri8aVR91G8s
To take a page out of your book, this is what the west thinks of the south
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_ecS9u1y8
West has always supported the South even back with Cube/Face/Dre, etc
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it's funny that alotta ppl who posted on here ain't even from the WestCoast, just like 95% of ppl on here aren't. no disrespects but you can't say that this is "The Wests' opinion on the South" when most of the ppl on here are foreigners or don't even live in Cali or any states on the WestCoast.
lol, shut the fuck up already.
you're just bitter that people be talkin' down to the south.
:loser:
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it's funny that alotta ppl who posted on here ain't even from the WestCoast, just like 95% of ppl on here aren't. no disrespects but you can't say that this is "The Wests' opinion on the South" when most of the ppl on here are foreigners or don't even live in Cali or any states on the WestCoast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri8aVR91G8s
Yeah i almost didnt post because of that but then thats why at the start of my post i clearly stated that i aint from the west or America but gave my opinion anyway.
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the south has been greatly influenced by the west more than the east....but they cool, they always give us props....southern & west coast artists always been cool for the most part
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the south has been greatly influenced by the west more than the east....but they cool, they always give us props....southern & west coast artists always been cool for the most part
dont think so... south has its own sound.... not so much influenced by west
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the south has been greatly influenced by the west more than the east....but they cool, they always give us props....southern & west coast artists always been cool for the most part
dont think so... south has its own sound.... not so much influenced by west
today that is most definitly true. everybody on all coast uses southern influenced beats but back in tha day the south was most definitly influenced by the west (on the beats) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Aahvm-WV4&feature=related ex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1W8PLMNYB0&feature=related
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Why can't bad music just be labeled as that, bad music.
Why is it when 5-10 rappers from the south make music no one likes, why does it have to be a problem with the whole region?
Those damn rock rappers made Detroit look bad :P ;D
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Why can't bad music just be labeled as that, bad music.
Why is it when 5-10 rappers from the south make music no one likes, why does it have to be a problem with the whole region?
Those damn rock rappers made Detroit look bad :P ;D
Lol, Detroit actually has a dope underground hip hop scene. When I hear Detroit I think more Royce, Em in his prime and Slum Village then Kid Rock lol.
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fuck the bullshit rappers outta the south but i like the thugsit from the south. Young buck, youn jeezy, scarface, z-ro and lil boosie r all dope . But fuck all that other soft bullshit that only soft niggaz relate to.
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south got a few dope rappers but thats it
face
z-ro (been wack lately)
pimp c
outkast
thats pretty much it that are dope almost consistently
the rest are all wack or arent on the rappers above levels and prolly never will be
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the south has been greatly influenced by the west more than the east....but they cool, they always give us props....southern & west coast artists always been cool for the most part
dont think so... south has its own sound.... not so much influenced by west
today that is most definitly true. everybody on all coast uses southern influenced beats but back in tha day the south was most definitly influenced by the west (on the beats) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Aahvm-WV4&feature=related ex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1W8PLMNYB0&feature=related
....thinkin bout it again......back in early 90s south copied all the g funk west coast sound..
remember kriss kross da brat jermain dupri makin west coast music????
and underground south rappers were jackin west coast sound hard! remeber P.K.O etc etc
but right now whether its good or bad south def got their own sound which i think mostly its bullshit
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nah those rappers are dope chad but i was talkin for the most part thats all there really is
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south got a few dope rappers but thats it;
-face
-z-ro (been wack lately)
-pimp c
-outkast
thats pretty much it that are dope almost consistently
the rest are all wack or arent on the rappers above levels and prolly never will be
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nah those rappers are dope chad but i was talking for the most part thats all there really is
For every snap,trap,crunk and bounce rapper there's a hyphy rapper.
So.... to quote D-Nice; it's about music not the region you're from. ;)
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nah those rappers are dope chad but i was talking for the most part thats all there really is
For every snap,trap,crunk and bounce rapper there's a hyphy rapper.
So.... to quote D-Nice; it's about music not the region you're from. ;)
pretty much, but what's the world's view of the West? probably the same as how "the West" aka foreigners feel about the "South"... pretty dumb shit to talk about/claim.