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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: phatpat on March 24, 2007, 05:40:04 AM
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You guys can check it out at hiphopdx. I have to say this track is really bad, some commercial pop garage, the beat is sounds like TECHNO music. I hope Detox does not sound like this, because if it does, Doc Dre's career is over.
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You guys can check it out at hiphopdx. I have to say this track is really bad, some commercial pop garage, the beat is sounds like TECHNO music. I hope Detox does not sound like this, because if it does, Doc Dre's career is over.
True, this beat sucks. Dre better some new inspiration for Detox!
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it was a Timbo track featuring Dr. Dre. it was produced by Timbaland. i doubt very much Detox will sound like this.
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Im not expecting Detox to sound like this at all. The track is dope IMO tho, that whole Timbo album is bangin, crazy production on there, some next level shit.
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it was a Timbo track featuring Dr. Dre. it was produced by Timbaland.
And I'm really wondering what's its relation to Detox (besides feat. Dr. Dre)?
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This was all TIMBO style album..Dre will do Detox in his own style, i dont think beats will sound like this. Tho beats are bangin on SHOCK VALUE. Most close beat to Dre style was the one with 50 n YAYO
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My opinion:
If a rapper/producer tries different styles he "fell off" or is "washed up" (kurupt, prodigy, 50 cent, lots of other examples, now dr. dre too)
If a rapper/producer sticks to the same old script he is boring and stuck in his prime.
The way y'all sounding is like nobody can do anything good, fuck that. Get on some real shit man, Kurupt didnt fell off he just evolved another style throughout his career, and im damn happy he did, it shows me he is capable of much more then people credit him for.
Same with Prodigy on Return Of The Mac, like people say "i cant listen to him blablabla" and "only the beats make it worthwile". If you cant listen to Prodigy dont listen his cd's and shut the fuck up, cuz the same dudes that say it now have been saying for years Prodigy fell off, and steadily been checking for every single mobb deep release, so what the fuck is up with that....
50 Cent same thing, aaaww man Power of the Dollar is classic underground shit, and damn, Get Rich Or Die Trying, that shit is really dope. But man Massacre, it sucks. Lol, yall dont even make no sense, Massacre is different compared to GRODT the same way GRODT is different compared to Power of the Dollar. He just changes his styles, looks for new ways, improve his originality, what the fuck is wrong with that. I can see the critics building up this summer when Before I Selfdestruct is dropping, people gonna say its wack and all that, but he will still sell millions, and the same people saying how wack his album is on internetforums, aare the ones that are buying his cd's as well.
Just my opinion on it, its stupid to say someone fell off. Stop dickriding and criticizing those artists man, they just do their own thang.
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This song is horrible (I'm not a fan of Timbo's production) but Detox won't sound anything like this and hopefully won't sound like any of Dre's recent beats, by which I mean repetitive and empty.
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doh I really like it ???
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This song is horrible (I'm not a fan of Timbo's production) but Detox won't sound anything like this and hopefully won't sound like any of Dre's recent beats, by which I mean repetitive and empty.
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You guys are crazy. Sure "Bounce" is out there but it's innovative as fuck. People always complain about people doing the same old shit, yet when someone does something really fresh it gets shit on. Do you want Detox to sound like the same shit Dre was doing 15 years ago?
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My opinion:
If a rapper/producer tries different styles he "fell off" or is "washed up" (kurupt, prodigy, 50 cent, lots of other examples, now dr. dre too)
If a rapper/producer sticks to the same old script he is boring and stuck in his prime.
The way y'all sounding is like nobody can do anything good, fuck that. Get on some real shit man, Kurupt didnt fell off he just evolved another style throughout his career, and im damn happy he did, it shows me he is capable of much more then people credit him for.
Same with Prodigy on Return Of The Mac, like people say "i cant listen to him blablabla" and "only the beats make it worthwile". If you cant listen to Prodigy dont listen his cd's and shut the fuck up, cuz the same dudes that say it now have been saying for years Prodigy fell off, and steadily been checking for every single mobb deep release, so what the fuck is up with that....
50 Cent same thing, aaaww man Power of the Dollar is classic underground shit, and damn, Get Rich Or Die Trying, that shit is really dope. But man Massacre, it sucks. Lol, yall dont even make no sense, Massacre is different compared to GRODT the same way GRODT is different compared to Power of the Dollar. He just changes his styles, looks for new ways, improve his originality, what the fuck is wrong with that. I can see the critics building up this summer when Before I Selfdestruct is dropping, people gonna say its wack and all that, but he will still sell millions, and the same people saying how wack his album is on internetforums, aare the ones that are buying his cd's as well.
Just my opinion on it, its stupid to say someone fell off. Stop dickriding and criticizing those artists man, they just do their own thang.
just because someone has changed there style it doesent mean they have improved and thats the issue people have.
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My opinion:
If a rapper/producer tries different styles he "fell off" or is "washed up" (kurupt, prodigy, 50 cent, lots of other examples, now dr. dre too)
If a rapper/producer sticks to the same old script he is boring and stuck in his prime.
The way y'all sounding is like nobody can do anything good, fuck that. Get on some real shit man, Kurupt didnt fell off he just evolved another style throughout his career, and im damn happy he did, it shows me he is capable of much more then people credit him for.
Same with Prodigy on Return Of The Mac, like people say "i cant listen to him blablabla" and "only the beats make it worthwile". If you cant listen to Prodigy dont listen his cd's and shut the fuck up, cuz the same dudes that say it now have been saying for years Prodigy fell off, and steadily been checking for every single mobb deep release, so what the fuck is up with that....
50 Cent same thing, aaaww man Power of the Dollar is classic underground shit, and damn, Get Rich Or Die Trying, that shit is really dope. But man Massacre, it sucks. Lol, yall dont even make no sense, Massacre is different compared to GRODT the same way GRODT is different compared to Power of the Dollar. He just changes his styles, looks for new ways, improve his originality, what the fuck is wrong with that. I can see the critics building up this summer when Before I Selfdestruct is dropping, people gonna say its wack and all that, but he will still sell millions, and the same people saying how wack his album is on internetforums, aare the ones that are buying his cd's as well.
Just my opinion on it, its stupid to say someone fell off. Stop dickriding and criticizing those artists man, they just do their own thang.
just because someone has changed there style it doesent mean they have improved and thats the issue people have.
Exactly, I have no problem when people switch up their style and try new things as long as it comes out tight. But if it comes out medicore or garbage, then we have a right to voice our opinions about it. People dont hate the track because its different, people hate it because it doesnt sound good in their opinion
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A lot of ya'll are trippin off small shit, all Dre did was submit his verse for the Timbaland track, and in the case of Detox everyone should always have great expectations when D.O.C. is in the studio with Dre.
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That beat sounds simple but it still sounds good to me. Dr. Dre sounded way different though.
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this is dope imo..
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its on a timbo album, why would detox sound anything like it?
you clown
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
off the top of my head, the big bang tracks, hustlers, no stoppin carson and maybe 1 or 2 of the tbct beats were all better than this. that come get me track is kind of corny if anything. im listening to the album right now and its good production but nothing here is topping or killing dre as you put it.
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
LOL!!! please tell me your joking. I like Timbo somtimes and he's great when it comes to radio/club/trance/poppy joints but "killing dre these last two years"?
Shit...the beat for "Get You Some" and/or "Higher" >>>> over 70% of Timbo's career. Not to mention "Westside Story", "Outta Control", "Outta Control Remix", "When It Rains It Pours", "How We Do"...ect.
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
LOL!!! please tell me your joking. I like Timbo somtimes and he's great when it comes to radio/club/trance/poppy joints but "killing dre these last two years"?
Shit...the beat for "Get You Some" and/or "Higher" >>>> over 70% of Timbo's career. Not to mention "Westside Story", "Outta Control", "Outta Control Remix", "When It Rains It Pours", "How We Do"...ect.
Obviously you can't read. He said within the last 2 years, the Doc was more then 2 years ago. Timbaland in 2006 >>>> Dre 2006. Easily. Thats the point hes trying to make.
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
LOL!!! please tell me your joking. I like Timbo somtimes and he's great when it comes to radio/club/trance/poppy joints but "killing dre these last two years"?
Shit...the beat for "Get You Some" and/or "Higher" >>>> over 70% of Timbo's career. Not to mention "Westside Story", "Outta Control", "Outta Control Remix", "When It Rains It Pours", "How We Do"...ect.
Obviously you can't read. He said within the last 2 years, the Doc was more then 2 years ago. Timbaland in 2006 >>>> Dre 2006. Easily. Thats the point hes trying to make.
most of timbo's shit in 06 wasn't great, but heavily poppy. Just because it's successful doesn't mean it's good. I defanitely give him props for my love, but sexy back was plain annoying as was the nelly furtado track. Sure 06' wasn't dre's best work, but I believe he had more quality then timbo
Commercial success in 06: Timbo >>>> Dre
Quality in 06: Dre >>>> Timbo
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im not feelin this track at all
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
LOL!!! please tell me your joking. I like Timbo somtimes and he's great when it comes to radio/club/trance/poppy joints but "killing dre these last two years"?
Shit...the beat for "Get You Some" and/or "Higher" >>>> over 70% of Timbo's career. Not to mention "Westside Story", "Outta Control", "Outta Control Remix", "When It Rains It Pours", "How We Do"...ect.
Obviously you can't read. He said within the last 2 years, the Doc was more then 2 years ago. Timbaland in 2006 >>>> Dre 2006. Easily. Thats the point hes trying to make.
most of timbo's shit in 06 wasn't great, but heavily poppy. Just because it's successful doesn't mean it's good. I defanitely give him props for my love, but sexy back was plain annoying as was the nelly furtado track. Sure 06' wasn't dre's best work, but I believe he had more quality then timbo
Commercial success in 06: Timbo >>>> Dre
Quality in 06: Dre >>>> Timbo
Whether you thought those tracks were annoying isn't really the point of discussion. Quality is completely subjective. Timbaland had more hits, compared to Dre's zero, he had more sales. He was responsible for the success of two of the biggest selling acts in 2006 (timberlake and furtado).
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
LOL!!! please tell me your joking. I like Timbo somtimes and he's great when it comes to radio/club/trance/poppy joints but "killing dre these last two years"?
Shit...the beat for "Get You Some" and/or "Higher" >>>> over 70% of Timbo's career. Not to mention "Westside Story", "Outta Control", "Outta Control Remix", "When It Rains It Pours", "How We Do"...ect.
Obviously you can't read. He said within the last 2 years, the Doc was more then 2 years ago. Timbaland in 2006 >>>> Dre 2006. Easily. Thats the point hes trying to make.
most of timbo's shit in 06 wasn't great, but heavily poppy. Just because it's successful doesn't mean it's good. I defanitely give him props for my love, but sexy back was plain annoying as was the nelly furtado track. Sure 06' wasn't dre's best work, but I believe he had more quality then timbo
Commercial success in 06: Timbo >>>> Dre
Quality in 06: Dre >>>> Timbo
Whether you thought those tracks were annoying isn't really the point of discussion. Quality is completely subjective. Timbaland had more hits, compared to Dre's zero, he had more sales. He was responsible for the success of two of the biggest selling acts in 2006 (timberlake and furtado).
True. It's not like Dre tried to have any hits. He stayed in the shadow this year mainstream wise. He did do some nice joints on busta's album as well as snoop's etc.
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Smh, that beat alone shtis on aynthing Dre did in the past 2 years and its not even the best beat from Shock Value.
Check the track with 50, Timbo killing Dre at his own sound. Orchestra, piano....
LOL!!! please tell me your joking. I like Timbo somtimes and he's great when it comes to radio/club/trance/poppy joints but "killing dre these last two years"?
Shit...the beat for "Get You Some" and/or "Higher" >>>> over 70% of Timbo's career. Not to mention "Westside Story", "Outta Control", "Outta Control Remix", "When It Rains It Pours", "How We Do"...ect.
Obviously you can't read. He said within the last 2 years, the Doc was more then 2 years ago. Timbaland in 2006 >>>> Dre 2006. Easily. Thats the point hes trying to make.
I can read, and if you wanna take "The Doc" out... than "Get You Some" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything Timbo's done these last couple years. I listed a bunch of beats that were released within two years.
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ain't feeling that bounce track. luckly detox ain't gonna sound like it.
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I'm just saying, their both releasing good material, but Timbaland is more successful over 2006. IMO though Promiscuous Girl is a much better beat. I get tired of some of Dre's stuff because of the repetitive looping of the beats. On another note, my fav Dre beat of the year is probably "Get Low" -Stat Quo. Amazing shit.
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Lol, how did this turn into a Dre vs Timbaland thread?
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Pop or not, you have to look at the beats not the song. And Timbo has shitted on Dre sincel 06.
Look at Dres betas in 06,07:
Get You Some= great, only Dre worthy beat
Over Here = Candy Shop rip off
Cocaina= dope
Dont Get Carried Away= very, very dope
Legend Of Fall Offs= aight
Nightmares=never released in CDQ, so its hard to judge
Lost Ones= boring
30 Something= sounds like 2001 leftover
Trouble= Timbo rip off
Minorty Report= very simple
Boss Life= cool but still nothing special
Round Here= sample we've heard before, boring
Imagine= dope
Hustlers = awful, just a loop
Get Low= boring
Hold On= dope
Aing Going Nowhere=boring
Ok, so we can say shitted, minus Big Bang.
Now you know Ive been always defending Dre but I just cant anymore. Beats hes putting out lately are boring, no melody and usually just loops. I hope its just his strategy before Detox.
Im patiently waiting for 50s new cd, 50 hasnt picked a wack Dre beat yet. And of course Reformation and Detox.
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lol@the dre comments....dre is a great producer, the best ....but his shit has been very poor for his standards for a pretty decent amount of time....bar a few beats on big bang, last worthy dre beats were on the documentary...timbo for the last 12 months has been killing him, i aint even that big into timbo and his hella inconsistant but to me, pop shit or not, its wayy better than what dre has done....dre beats sound dated right now, he needs to bring some energy into his beats...dre better not start making beats for other niggaz who are in there 40's....haha...but on the real, i think it'l be better to judge where dre is at wih his new sound once 50's new album comes out....
oh and whether a beat is made for hiphop or pop does not matter....its which one is better....and the beat off the first single on timbos album shits on everything dre done on jiggaz album, snoops, bucks...