If Iran's navy was floating alongside America's coast, in territory that we recognized as being under our jurisdiction, then wouldn't America take the Iranian's captive? Same thing with Britian. America and Britian seem to think that Iran doesn't have a right to defend itself.
If Iran's navy was floating alongside America's coast, in territory that we recognized as being under our jurisdiction, then wouldn't America take the Iranian's captive? Same thing with Britian. America and Britian seem to think that Iran doesn't have a right to defend itself.they got tracking equiptment on the boats n they confirmed they didn't stray over this is all just a politcal stunt
THat's nice but they were in Iraqi waters.
The british admitted they were in iranian waters so its legit.
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?
we're gonna fuck iran up
and they cant do shit about it
the waters have been disputed for decades about whos it is, the iranians aint got no proof, whilst we have sat info that prooves where they were
i keep telling the persians at my work i gotta take them out if my country orders it
put it this way i think the irainians would've been more careful if theyt were american soldiers.....as we will only punish them doplomatically but if this drags on don't under estimate an SAS missioni tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?
we're gonna fuck iran up
and they cant do shit about it
the waters have been disputed for decades about whos it is, the iranians aint got no proof, whilst we have sat info that prooves where they were
i keep telling the persians at my work i gotta take them out if my country orders it
You aint gonna do shit
WE rule the PERSIAN gulf and thats why its called the PERSIAN GULF ;) biaaaach!
one day
there will be a child looking at a map, and he'll ask his father
son: "father, whats that black spot on the map"
father: "son, thats where iran used to be"
you might rule the persian gulf, but we get them nukes big boy
If Iran's navy was floating alongside America's coast, in territory that we recognized as being under our jurisdiction, then wouldn't America take the Iranian's captive? Same thing with Britian. America and Britian seem to think that Iran doesn't have a right to defend itself.THat's nice but they were in Iraqi waters.
The U.N. Security Council, meanwhile, unanimously voted to impose new sanctions against Iran for its refusal to stop enriching uranium _ a move intended to show Tehran that defiance over its nuclear program will leave it increasingly isolated.
British opposition lawmakers called on the government not to allow Iran to use the capture of the military personnel as a tool in the nuclear dispute.
"The United Kingdom will not be blackmailed. Iran has a choice: to act responsibly; or face greater isolation," said Menzies Campbell, leader of the opposition Liberal Democrats.
But the British government appeared to be avoiding harsh language in its public statements as it continued to gather information about exactly what had happened and why.
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?
we're gonna fuck iran up
and they cant do shit about it
the waters have been disputed for decades about whos it is, the iranians aint got no proof, whilst we have sat info that prooves where they were
i keep telling the persians at my work i gotta take them out if my country orders it
You aint gonna do shit
WE rule the PERSIAN gulf and thats why its called the PERSIAN GULF ;) biaaaach!
one day
there will be a child looking at a map, and he'll ask his father
son: "father, whats that black spot on the map"
father: "son, thats where iran used to be"
you might rule the persian gulf, but we get them nukes big boy
persian is just what people say when they don't want to be called iranian, quite frankly from the iranians i've met i don't blame them
persian is just what people say when they don't want to be called iranian, quite frankly from the iranians i've met i don't blame them
Both are the same thing. Persia is the ancient name and they changed it to Iran in early 1900s and Iran comes from the word Aryan.... and thats the same thing as Persian.
People that say persian instead of iranian are probably trying not to scare you. lol
Also, there is a good number of Iranians who don't even like their government, but they'd rather have that than a buncha foreign fruitcakes running their country... so shit like this is only strengthening the Iranian government's position within the country, where most people are seeking reform.
#2. Iran would probably try to disrupt the oil market by attacking the sea's of the United Arab Emirates. Because America is aligned economically with the Emirates and that is the major trading post for all the worlds oil economy. And the UAE has already allowed America to use it as a base for miliatry operations, so therefore the Islamic scholars of Iran probably regard them as hypocrites and from that context they would try to legitimize that attack.
you guys are getting ahead of urselfs
1.britian does not want another war, you think they would have gone quietly if we did?
2.no 1 has proved we were in irainian waters.
to me you sound very biased
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one
Imagine if some outsiders were rollin around in American waters when it's war-time all around, along with threats coming at them everyday. How can you blame Iran for holding those muthafucaz hostage?
well we have about 100k in the army, about not sure of the current iraq figure but i believe it is being reduced to about 4k while arganistan is to get more troops which are currently at around 6 or 7k so might rise to 10k we have over comitments but not that substantial. at the hight of the iraq invasion we deployed about 48k troops but that number was quickly scaled back. we also have 2.5k going AWOL each year, although apprenetly iraq isn't the main cause.
to me you sound very biased, all your speculation is being mounted around the british and american motives to attack iran, as iran couldn't have possible done any wrong in this whole affair. Britain is not trying to start a war and we won't be drawn into one with iran either i garentee you that.
Don't forget Tony Blair only has a shelf life until the end of May
The Gulf Of Tonkin has been publicly declassified as a staged event which never happened, the Roosevelt tapes were released in the 90's proving that Pearl Harbour was not an event which came out of the blue. It was provoked by the actions of the u.s military, finally Japan took the bait and the rest is history.
The British soldiers weren't on iranian waters.
i see this as iran just stomping their feet right now to show off to their domestic audience, who otherwise would be talking about the damage the current regime is causing the iranian economy
They were not in Iranian waters according to the British Government?
If so you mean the same British Government who helped to created the myth about Iraqis WMD's?
I agree with 11'z how the hell is this a "we" issue, we saw how much we counted when the government defied the will of us and sent british soldiers to the slaughter house in Iraq. "We" see what a disregard the government has for human life when they drop thousands of tonnes of depleted uranium, which destroy the bodies of both the troops and the men women and children. The Gulf Of Tonkin has been publicly declassified as a staged event which never happened, the Roosevelt tapes were released in the 90's proving that Pearl Harbour was not an event which came out of the blue. It was provoked by the actions of the u.s military, finally Japan took the bait and the rest is history.
By the same token we can't take the iranian's word for it either but who stands to gain the most from this?
your an idiot. plain and simple. The words i say have not come out of anyone's mouth but my own, this isn't nationalism its rationalism.i see this as iran just stomping their feet right now to show off to their domestic audience, who otherwise would be talking about the damage the current regime is causing the iranian economy
Why do you insist on quoting the propaganda feeds directly from Tony Blair? Your nationalism has made you so blind.
...so now your telling me it's the Iranian government that is trying to damage Iran's economy, rather than America and Britian who ever since the fall of their puppet, the Shah in 1979, have been trying to sabatoge the Iranian economy through sanctions and embargo's in an effort to cut them off from world trade.
games up for iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm
the nuclear policy of the current iranian government and the subsequent isolation has seen inflation rise significantly, the president himself said being nuclear was more important than having a functioning economy. This means iranian actions have caused international reaction, ven though it may not have been intentional
games up for iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm
Not everything has to be a conspiracy or a lie, surely it isn't implausible that Iran is in the wrong and the big bad western government and news agencies are reporting the truth.
Not everything has to be a conspiracy or a lie, surely it isn't implausible that Iran is in the wrong and the big bad western government and news agencies are reporting the truth.
That is very true, and the information in this news article may very well be true, but I'm just saying I don't really trust the BBC at all. They seem very talented at twisting the truth at times. They'll have to come up with some real proof, and not just some dodgy news article, to convince me on this one.
games up for iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm
:grumpy: The BBC is known to have spread propaganda before.
Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see!
games up for iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm
:grumpy: The BBC is known to have spread propaganda before.
Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see!
its not propaganda u idiot, this is proof released by UK defence officials
the BBC and the government arent best of budies anyway so they wouldnt be spreading stuff on their behalf
They were not in Iranian waters according to the British Government?i supported the invasion in 2003, and so did albiet a slim majority of the public things may have changed since then
If so you mean the same British Government who helped to created the myth about Iraqis WMD's?
I agree with 11'z how the hell is this a "we" issue, we saw how much we counted when the government defied the will of us and sent british soldiers to the slaughter house in Iraq. "We" see what a disregard the government has for human life when they drop thousands of tonnes of depleted uranium, which destroy the bodies of both the troops and the men women and children. The Gulf Of Tonkin has been publicly declassified as a staged event which never happened, the Roosevelt tapes were released in the 90's proving that Pearl Harbour was not an event which came out of the blue. It was provoked by the actions of the u.s military, finally Japan took the bait and the rest is history.
By the same token we can't take the iranian's word for it either but who stands to gain the most from this?
it wasn't untrue, they broadcast an off the record comment by david kelly which turned out to be true................the bbc got in trouble for not substantiating it that is all.Not everything has to be a conspiracy or a lie, surely it isn't implausible that Iran is in the wrong and the big bad western government and news agencies are reporting the truth.
That is very true, and the information in this news article may very well be true, but I'm just saying I don't really trust the BBC at all. They seem very talented at twisting the truth at times. They'll have to come up with some real proof, and not just some dodgy news article, to convince me on this one.
Who exactly does the BBC twist truth against, in your opinion?
I know that a few years ago there was a huge scandal were the BBC was putting out untrue allegations against the British government.
please give me examples of intentional spread of propagander on the bbc.games up for iran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm
:grumpy: The BBC is known to have spread propaganda before.
Believe in none of what you hear and half of what you see!
its not propaganda u idiot, this is proof released by UK defence officials
the BBC and the government arent best of budies anyway so they wouldnt be spreading stuff on their behalf
This is proof of what? Where do you see any proof, because I don't. I'm seeing a lot of talk and some images sketched up. How is that going to prove anything?
Plus, I never said it was propaganda. All I said is that the BBC have spread propaganda before, which basically means they just shouldn't be trusted blindly. It doesn't even matter in whose favor this article works, I don't trust it, especially since the "proof" supplied here is paper thin.
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
the nuclear policy of the current iranian government and the subsequent isolation has seen inflation rise significantly, the president himself said being nuclear was more important than having a functioning economy. This means iranian actions have caused international reaction, ven though it may not have been intentional
That's some backwards ass logic. What your doing is blaming the victim. Obviously, Iran didn't cut their ownselves off economically and institute sanctions and embargo's upon themselves. They were forced upon them by other nations. But in your backwards form of logic, your going to watch America and Britian try to strangle Iran economically and then shift the blame and say Iran did it themselves.
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
Why did you support an illegal war? surely you can not have based that on the fact that a dictator was in power? by the way when you have millions of people marching against a war most of whom have probably never protested in their life and are usually very apathetic, then you know how strong the anti war sentiment was.i supported the removal of saddam yes, the arguments for war didn't influence my decision because i it was not sold to me on those grounds. In retrospect iraq probably needs an iron fist style dictatorship.
P.S Even besides that, are you happy that they played us all for a fool by lying about WMD's?
no your saying muslims couldn't possibly ever do anything wrong.
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
So your saying it would be smart for Iran to do the same thing as Sadaam Hussien and allow in UN Weapons Inspectors, and foriegn spy agents, and everything else? Not seek any weapons for self-defense but get falsely accused of having WMD's anyway, and trust Britian and America?
That didn't end up working so well for Sadaam.
no your saying muslims couldn't possibly ever do anything wrong.
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
So your saying it would be smart for Iran to do the same thing as Sadaam Hussien and allow in UN Weapons Inspectors, and foriegn spy agents, and everything else? Not seek any weapons for self-defense but get falsely accused of having WMD's anyway, and trust Britian and America?
That didn't end up working so well for Sadaam.
no your saying muslims couldn't possibly ever do anything wrong.
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
So your saying it would be smart for Iran to do the same thing as Sadaam Hussien and allow in UN Weapons Inspectors, and foriegn spy agents, and everything else? Not seek any weapons for self-defense but get falsely accused of having WMD's anyway, and trust Britian and America?
That didn't end up working so well for Sadaam.
You didn't answer the question so I'll ask it again.
Since you blame the Iranian government for the economic restrictions that have been placed against them, I was asking if you thought it would be better if they followed Sadaam's strategy and abandon their nuclear ambitions, open the country for weapons inspectors (and spy's), trust US and Britian, yet still get invaded and overthrown in a matter of 3 weeks, only to have it shown that no WMD's existed. Only to have the economic restrictions ultimately lifted after an American puppet regime is installed into power like before with the Shah.
Is that a better strategy?
Any country with A LOT to gain by going nuclear is going to be scrutinized.
its not as black an white as that and you know it. first off iraq and iran are different, the approach to iran is different, iran doesn't want war and neither does anyone one else. equally no one wants to see a nuclear iran (outside iran) especially its neighbours (mostly muslim countries!), I don't want any new members to the nuclear club, a gradual disarminant is what is needed and fiercely opposing any country trying top build these weapons. we know iran has a nuclear weapons program that pakistani scientist sold them the info, he also gave it to iraq, north korea and libya, the internation community gave iran the oppportunity to have a civillian nuclear program and remove the ambiguaty over the nuclear weapons program by processing nuclear material in russia, this was turned down by Iran, they throw out IAEA inspectors and rachetted up they're program and you wonder why everyone is alarmed by this? THIS IS WHY WE PUT SANCTIONS ON THEM, to try and persuade them to change course without physically twisting their arm into doing it, so yes it is entirely iran's fault.no your saying muslims couldn't possibly ever do anything wrong.
its not blaming the victim, their economic isolation would've been entirely avoidable that is all. by your logic criminals who are in jail are all victims...............................
So your saying it would be smart for Iran to do the same thing as Sadaam Hussien and allow in UN Weapons Inspectors, and foriegn spy agents, and everything else? Not seek any weapons for self-defense but get falsely accused of having WMD's anyway, and trust Britian and America?
That didn't end up working so well for Sadaam.
You didn't answer the question so I'll ask it again.
Since you blame the Iranian government for the economic restrictions that have been placed against them, I was asking if you thought it would be better if they followed Sadaam's strategy and abandon their nuclear ambitions, open the country for weapons inspectors (and spy's), trust US and Britian, yet still get invaded and overthrown in a matter of 3 weeks, only to have it shown that no WMD's existed. Only to have the economic restrictions ultimately lifted after an American puppet regime is installed into power like before with the Shah.
Is that a better strategy?
huh?
huh?
The iranians captured these troops because the iranians are in serious trouble. 70% of Iran is under 30 years old, and almost all of them are pro-western world... Towel head motherfucker that runs the country has serious economic issues going on, and the people are tired of living in their own little world. If our democratic congress pulls us out of Iraq, you're looking at a civil war as well as tons of refugees hiding in southern Iran. You think this guy wants that? He kidnapped these soldiers to try and get someone to negotiate because he's in serious fucking trouble in a major way at home.
They also all know the guy is a nutcase and will eventually get shellshocked back into the 4th century, especially fucking around with Britian, who by and large do not play games with stupid motherfuckers like the idiot running the country. As far as I'm concerned, Afganistan, Iraq, and Iran have all needed a good ass-whipping nuclear bombing for about 30 fucking years, so bring it on.
England is joined at the hip with America, and I think I speak for all red blooded war happy americans when I say they have our full support. I'd be glad to risk American casualties for England, they've done the same for us and remain our mother country. Basically, we're down for WHATEVER. Our military is VOLUNTEER and we've got thousands signing up every month and only dozens dying.
BTW, if you'll check recent history, Al Qaeda fucked with us so we killed them and the taliban helping them in Afganistan. See the correlation: Fuck with us, we kill you, and take everything you own. We now own afganistan and there's a bunch of wannabes running around throwing rocks at our tanks and wiring plastic explosives up in the sand trying to mess our jeeps up. We have anhilated their world and now own their country. Game over.
Then, we basically killed Saddam Hussein and his entire family, and captured the entire nation of Iraq. Say what you want about the scenario over there, but either way you look at it, we boss'd up, destroyed their way of life and now the country belongs to us.
On the other side, notice France. They hate us. That's fine, we dont' want everybody to like us, we just don't want you to try and kill us. France can live hating us, we have no problem with France.
Next, Iran. We're not going to let these assholes continue to do whatever the fuck they want to do, we're gonna get a little bloody for a little while and clean all the bullshit up. Simple as that, if you want to threaten us with bodily harm, we will anhilate you, playtime is over, we're tired of diplomacy. We are now talking with our bombs like we did in the first half of the 20th century, and look what was accomplished then. Today we stand tall with Japan and Germany and one day we'll stand tall with Afganistan, Iran, and Iraq. I don't give a shit if our taxes go th rough the roof and we're in war for the next 20 years, bring it on. America was built on blood and death, no reason to stop now.
It's clear to the vast majority of Americans when a war is just, don't believe the hype. We'll gladly kill kids and shit in Iran if England needs us to go with them, no problem we'll be there.
As for this being the end of the world, bullshit. Murder and war has been going on forever. London survived months of daily bombings in world war II. They'd survive it again if it came to that. Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, they have a nuclear mess that's unrefined and isn't capable of anywhere near the carnage we'll rain on them if they attempt to use one against Europe.
The iranians captured these troops because the iranians are in serious trouble. 70% of Iran is under 30 years old, and almost all of them are pro-western world... Towel head motherfucker that runs the country has serious economic issues going on, and the people are tired of living in their own little world. If our democratic congress pulls us out of Iraq, you're looking at a civil war as well as tons of refugees hiding in southern Iran. You think this guy wants that? He kidnapped these soldiers to try and get someone to negotiate because he's in serious fucking trouble in a major way at home.
They also all know the guy is a nutcase and will eventually get shellshocked back into the 4th century, especially fucking around with Britian, who by and large do not play games with stupid motherfuckers like the idiot running the country. As far as I'm concerned, Afganistan, Iraq, and Iran have all needed a good ass-whipping nuclear bombing for about 30 fucking years, so bring it on.
England is joined at the hip with America, and I think I speak for all red blooded war happy americans when I say they have our full support. I'd be glad to risk American casualties for England, they've done the same for us and remain our mother country. Basically, we're down for WHATEVER. Our military is VOLUNTEER and we've got thousands signing up every month and only dozens dying.
BTW, if you'll check recent history, Al Qaeda fucked with us so we killed them and the taliban helping them in Afganistan. See the correlation: Fuck with us, we kill you, and take everything you own. We now own afganistan and there's a bunch of wannabes running around throwing rocks at our tanks and wiring plastic explosives up in the sand trying to mess our jeeps up. We have anhilated their world and now own their country. Game over.
Then, we basically killed Saddam Hussein and his entire family, and captured the entire nation of Iraq. Say what you want about the scenario over there, but either way you look at it, we boss'd up, destroyed their way of life and now the country belongs to us.
On the other side, notice France. They hate us. That's fine, we dont' want everybody to like us, we just don't want you to try and kill us. France can live hating us, we have no problem with France.
Next, Iran. We're not going to let these assholes continue to do whatever the fuck they want to do, we're gonna get a little bloody for a little while and clean all the bullshit up. Simple as that, if you want to threaten us with bodily harm, we will anhilate you, playtime is over, we're tired of diplomacy. We are now talking with our bombs like we did in the first half of the 20th century, and look what was accomplished then. Today we stand tall with Japan and Germany and one day we'll stand tall with Afganistan, Iran, and Iraq. I don't give a shit if our taxes go th rough the roof and we're in war for the next 20 years, bring it on. America was built on blood and death, no reason to stop now.
It's clear to the vast majority of Americans when a war is just, don't believe the hype. We'll gladly kill kids and shit in Iran if England needs us to go with them, no problem we'll be there.
As for this being the end of the world, bullshit. Murder and war has been going on forever. London survived months of daily bombings in world war II. They'd survive it again if it came to that. Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, they have a nuclear mess that's unrefined and isn't capable of anywhere near the carnage we'll rain on them if they attempt to use one against Europe.
Any country with A LOT to gain by going nuclear is going to be scrutinized.
Yea, every country that isn't workin under America. Except North Korea, they're doing it as we speak but Bush can't fuck wit em and he knows it.
Any country with A LOT to gain by going nuclear is going to be scrutinized.
Yea, every country that isn't workin under America. Except North Korea, they're doing it as we speak but Bush can't fuck wit em and he knows it.
If Iran wants to have a nuclear power plant, I don't see anything wrong with that. Bombs are a completely different story.
The british admitted they were in iranian waters so its legit.
p.s. they deserved that shit cuz they keep calling the PERSIAN gulf.....Arabian gulf just cuz they ay-rab countries pay them to do that. Guess now they know what the real name is now. LOL
Imagine if some outsiders were rollin around in American waters when it's war-time all around, along with threats coming at them everyday. How can you blame Iran for holding those muthafucaz hostage? Just be thankful they didn't kill them on sight. The Persian Gulf isn't owned by the Arabs and it never will be. They were dwelling on their turf in a bad time, what proof does Tony Blair have when his own people are admitting they were in Persian territory.
UK & USA even together will not take Iran down on land. They would need to nuke their ass, that is why Iran needs nukes for defensive reasons. America is making a huge deal about it because they know who they're facing, an independent country who doesn't kiss American ass or get along with too many of the Arabs around them. They are a huge threat just based on the power they could possibly have. But that power has nothing to do with America, the only reason America is always involved in the bullshit is because they put themselves in it, if they just stayed their ass out of Iran's affairs, everyone would get along just fine. But there's just too much oil out there to be left alone, 10% of the world's total, American must try to tax that ass, the world is America's turf, right?
And people to this day call themselves Persian to keep alive the pride of the Persian Empire that still remains. Iranian is more of a new school thing, most families out there can go back to their ancestors for over a thousand years, the Persian pride is something beyond what people can comprehend, the Persian history is like no other. There's alot of square ass "Iranians" in America, especially in rich parts of LA and areas like that, nothing close to what Persians are supposed to be like, people who are descendants of what was the biggest power house that the world has ever seen.
Check this out.. Strategically, Iran would have to come out with a three-pronged attack to pose a significant resistance to America and Britian.
#1. They may bypass America and Britian alltogether and go to the root of the problem by battling Israel, because it is the Jewish influence/lobby/AIPAC that has inspired most of America's threats towards Iran in the first place. AIPAC wants Israel to remain the dominant force in the middle east and the only nuclear power. So this is really mostly about Israel. So Iran may go after them, and possibly use Hezbollah to give them closer reach. Israel is also ofcourse much closer to Iran than America and Britian so it is more practical.
#2. Iran would probably try to disrupt the oil market by attacking the sea's of the United Arab Emirates. Because America is aligned economically with the Emirates and that is the major trading post for all the worlds oil economy. And the UAE has already allowed America to use it as a base for miliatry operations, so therefore the Islamic scholars of Iran probably regard them as hypocrites and from that context they would try to legitimize that attack.
#3. Iran would go after America's presence in Iraq and Afganistan. Both those regions border Iran, and Iran most likely has weapons that could cause serious damage to all of America's installations in those regions.
Any attack on Iran has the potential to bring about 8 countries into the conflict very quickly, Iran, US, Britian, Israel, Lebanon (Hezbollah), Syria, Iraq, Afganistan
that's nearly world war 3!
................man....... Looking at it from those perspectives, America and Britian would have to be pretty stupid to try anything because the death toll of the first week would probably be in the millions.
Jamal and Zilla pretty much summed it up...Thanks guys.
The british admitted they were in iranian waters so its legit.
p.s. they deserved that shit cuz they keep calling the PERSIAN gulf.....Arabian gulf just cuz they ay-rab countries pay them to do that. Guess now they know what the real name is now. LOL
shut the fuck up ill fuck your ass up fucking pussy ass iranian
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
nigga i run da arcade i'll handle you in the parking lot bitch
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
how many iranians do you know? thats where u wrong bitch, u judge by the ones u see here in l.a. which is very few. Bring your ass down to iran (LoooL...like that will ever happen) and i show u some real thugs...fuck the bullshit u see on tv. You see some punk ass rappers who talk tough and u call that bein a gangsta? lol
Nigga u wanna tough iranian, check out the dude in my sig. 8)
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
nigga i run da arcade i'll handle you in the parking lot bitch
lol niggas dont run shit in the SFV
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
nigga i run da arcade i'll handle you in the parking lot bitch
lol niggas dont run shit in the SFV
give me an address pussy
u dont wanna fuck wit a youngsta old man.
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
nigga i run da arcade i'll handle you in the parking lot bitch
lol niggas dont run shit in the SFV
give me an address pussy
i told you to meet up at the arcade. y da fuck would i give u my address thats juz fucking stupid not having fucking balls. y da fuck would i want to get my family in danger, which ur dumbass was bout to do but didnt even give me the full number address and street name.
lol u dont wanna fuck wit a youngsta old man.
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
nigga i run da arcade i'll handle you in the parking lot bitch
lol niggas dont run shit in the SFV
give me an address pussy
i told you to meet up at the arcade. y da fuck would i give u my address thats juz fucking stupid not having fucking balls. y da fuck would i want to get my family in danger, which ur dumbass was bout to do but didnt even give me the full number address and street name.
lol u dont wanna fuck wit a youngsta old man.
are you fucking kidding me blood? you know i could make like 1-2 calls and have dudes rollin around north hills ready to shoot at any young asians wearing blue right?
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
how many iranians do you know? thats where u wrong bitch, u judge by the ones u see here in l.a. which is very few. Bring your ass down to iran (LoooL...like that will ever happen) and i show u some real thugs...fuck the bullshit u see on tv. You see some punk ass rappers who talk tough and u call that bein a gangsta? lol
Nigga u wanna tough iranian, check out the dude in my sig. 8)
sorry pimp, our thugs are way more gangsta than your weak ass sheep farmers with 20 year old guns. dont be a bitch ass nigga and act bitter, just recognize your place
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
And I agree with Trauma's 1st paragraph.
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
who is this? faggit ass j bananas??lol i backd out? homie u backd out bitch come down to the 818 balboa and devonshire SANFERNANDO VALLEY in the city of NORTH HILLS MEET ME AT TEH ARCADE .
lol this is bullshit but my pride makesit a must.
nigga i run da arcade i'll handle you in the parking lot bitch
i'd take both you little sweet 16 year old panty wastes. looney already backed out of beef with me when he said he would meet me. iran iz wanksta dont want none i dont know any iranians who are tough. holla back
how many iranians do you know? thats where u wrong bitch, u judge by the ones u see here in l.a. which is very few. Bring your ass down to iran (LoooL...like that will ever happen) and i show u some real thugs...fuck the bullshit u see on tv. You see some punk ass rappers who talk tough and u call that bein a gangsta? lol
Nigga u wanna tough iranian, check out the dude in my sig. 8)
sorry pimp, our thugs are way more gangsta than your weak ass sheep farmers with 20 year old guns. dont be a bitch ass nigga and act bitter, just recognize your place
u know nothing about iran...
we ruled the world when it was about real physical power, when u had to have balls to go in a bloody battle field...we dont need to prove our toughness we've already made history for punk ass niggaz like u to even exist in this world...u need to recognize your place. The fuck is you talkin about? LOOOL
LOL @ Iraqi waters.
THat's nice but they were in Iraqi waters.
From your article it says that that was origionally Iranian waters, that Sadaam fought a war against Iran to try to make it Iraqi waters but number 1, that was an illegitimate war, and number 2, Iraq lost.
The british admitted they were in iranian waters so its legit.
p.s. they deserved that shit cuz they keep calling the PERSIAN gulf.....Arabian gulf just cuz they ay-rab countries pay them to do that. Guess now they know what the real name is now. LOL
America/Britain/Israel need to get their acts together and realize that international law applies to everybody, including them. Fuck these motherfuckers and their double standards. They were in Iranian waters, so the Iranians did what they were lawfully entitled to do. And they didn't even issue any threats or anything... they're being rather diplomatic about all this. So far they've only asked for an explanation, and stated that they may be tried. Nothing wrong with that.
What about the Iranian diplomats "captured" in Iraq?
What about all those innocent motherfuckers in Guantanamo?
Aside from that, why do these motherfuckers get to stock up on nuclear weapons, but as soon as there is a potential that Iran might, they get their pussies all bloody? By the way, America was actually sponsoring nuclear development in Iran when there was a puppet regime under the Shah, so now that their government isn't sucking America's dick anymore, they're no longer entitled to their international rights?
Also, there is a good number of Iranians who don't even like their government, but they'd rather have that than a buncha foreign fruitcakes running their country... so shit like this is only strengthening the Iranian government's position within the country, where most people are seeking reform.
I hope Iran nukes the shit out of Britain! 8)
you guys are getting ahead of urselfs
1.britian does not want another war, you think they would have gone quietly if we did?
2.no 1 has proved we were in irainian waters.
First of all, there should be no "we". That's the people governing over you, and the army that belongs to that government. What's your place in all this?
"Britain" does not want another war? The British people don't, that's for sure. That's why the government feels the need to save face. But oh yes, the government does want war - just not a war that will make the people turn their backs on the government any more. After all, you're living in a "democracy".
Now, let's reverse your second question. Indeed it wasn't proven that "you" were in Iranian waters. On the other hand, it wasn't proven that "you" weren't. But why would Iran capture a bunch of British marines while they were in Iraq, not posing any threats to them? Remember, Iran is certainly increasing the risks of a new war breaking out. They don't want to feel the pressure of the entire world on their backs; it's best for them to avoid conflict when possible. Do you think these marines were captured out of the blue?
Britain and America may or may not be able to overthrow the Iranian government, but as soon as this becomes an international issue, damn right Iran will have nowhere to go. It could get messy though.
The iranians captured these troops because the iranians are in serious trouble. 70% of Iran is under 30 years old, and almost all of them are pro-western world... Towel head motherfucker that runs the country has serious economic issues going on, and the people are tired of living in their own little world. If our democratic congress pulls us out of Iraq, you're looking at a civil war as well as tons of refugees hiding in southern Iran. You think this guy wants that? He kidnapped these soldiers to try and get someone to negotiate because he's in serious fucking trouble in a major way at home.
They also all know the guy is a nutcase and will eventually get shellshocked back into the 4th century, especially fucking around with Britian, who by and large do not play games with stupid motherfuckers like the idiot running the country. As far as I'm concerned, Afganistan, Iraq, and Iran have all needed a good ass-whipping nuclear bombing for about 30 fucking years, so bring it on.
England is joined at the hip with America, and I think I speak for all red blooded war happy americans when I say they have our full support. I'd be glad to risk American casualties for England, they've done the same for us and remain our mother country. Basically, we're down for WHATEVER. Our military is VOLUNTEER and we've got thousands signing up every month and only dozens dying.
BTW, if you'll check recent history, Al Qaeda fucked with us so we killed them and the taliban helping them in Afganistan. See the correlation: Fuck with us, we kill you, and take everything you own. We now own afganistan and there's a bunch of wannabes running around throwing rocks at our tanks and wiring plastic explosives up in the sand trying to mess our jeeps up. We have anhilated their world and now own their country. Game over.
Then, we basically killed Saddam Hussein and his entire family, and captured the entire nation of Iraq. Say what you want about the scenario over there, but either way you look at it, we boss'd up, destroyed their way of life and now the country belongs to us.
On the other side, notice France. They hate us. That's fine, we dont' want everybody to like us, we just don't want you to try and kill us. France can live hating us, we have no problem with France.
Next, Iran. We're not going to let these assholes continue to do whatever the fuck they want to do, we're gonna get a little bloody for a little while and clean all the bullshit up. Simple as that, if you want to threaten us with bodily harm, we will anhilate you, playtime is over, we're tired of diplomacy. We are now talking with our bombs like we did in the first half of the 20th century, and look what was accomplished then. Today we stand tall with Japan and Germany and one day we'll stand tall with Afganistan, Iran, and Iraq. I don't give a shit if our taxes go th rough the roof and we're in war for the next 20 years, bring it on. America was built on blood and death, no reason to stop now.
It's clear to the vast majority of Americans when a war is just, don't believe the hype. We'll gladly kill kids and shit in Iran if England needs us to go with them, no problem we'll be there.
As for this being the end of the world, bullshit. Murder and war has been going on forever. London survived months of daily bombings in world war II. They'd survive it again if it came to that. Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, they have a nuclear mess that's unrefined and isn't capable of anywhere near the carnage we'll rain on them if they attempt to use one against Europe.
lol...cut the tough guy act, pussy, surely u fool no one.
your fuckin army, for all its billions and for all its technology, cannot go into the tribal areas of afghanistan or western iraq. al anbar is a lost cause to you puss pusses.
you fucks lose 60-70 soldiers a month and half the country wants a withdrawal. 3000 fucks get merked in 9/11 and your whole country was in tears.
america= powder puff
Any country with A LOT to gain by going nuclear is going to be scrutinized.
Yea, every country that isn't workin under America. Except North Korea, they're doing it as we speak but Bush can't fuck wit em and he knows it.
If Iran wants to have a nuclear power plant, I don't see anything wrong with that. Bombs are a completely different story.
What about America, Russia, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, South Africa, Israel...?
You'll notice that the only "Muslim" nation on that list is Pakistan, and they suck America's dick, so that's no problem.
You'll also notice that the only country in the Middle East is Israel.... which is mainly why everyone is getting their pussies wet over Iran also having them.
Any country with A LOT to gain by going nuclear is going to be scrutinized.
Yea, every country that isn't workin under America. Except North Korea, they're doing it as we speak but Bush can't fuck wit em and he knows it.
If Iran wants to have a nuclear power plant, I don't see anything wrong with that. Bombs are a completely different story.
What about America, Russia, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, South Africa, Israel...?
You'll notice that the only "Muslim" nation on that list is Pakistan, and they suck America's dick, so that's no problem.
You'll also notice that the only country in the Middle East is Israel.... which is mainly why everyone is getting their pussies wet over Iran also having them.
We can't let Muslim nations have bombs, because they'll try to destroy Israel. Muslims don't play fair, that's why they keep getting bombed. We had to take Afganistan and Iraq from the muslims just a few years ago, where were you? Everybody knows the only Arab nations that are allowed to exist are Egypt and Pakistan.
Any country with A LOT to gain by going nuclear is going to be scrutinized.
Yea, every country that isn't workin under America. Except North Korea, they're doing it as we speak but Bush can't fuck wit em and he knows it.
If Iran wants to have a nuclear power plant, I don't see anything wrong with that. Bombs are a completely different story.
What about America, Russia, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, South Africa, Israel...?
You'll notice that the only "Muslim" nation on that list is Pakistan, and they suck America's dick, so that's no problem.
You'll also notice that the only country in the Middle East is Israel.... which is mainly why everyone is getting their pussies wet over Iran also having them.
We can't let Muslim nations have bombs, because they'll try to destroy Israel. Muslims don't play fair, that's why they keep getting bombed. We had to take Afganistan and Iraq from the muslims just a few years ago, where were you? Everybody knows the only Arab nations that are allowed to exist are Egypt and Pakistan.
They were in Iraqi waters, we have you in black and white being a dumbass and not knowing what the fuck you were talking about. Please leave the board and never spread your dumbass nonsense on here again. In short: You fucked up, you're wrong, apologize and leave like a man, bitch!