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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: herpes on March 29, 2007, 08:15:06 PM
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surprised the hell out of me..... wow i never thought I would say it again, but pee put out some dope music. Alchemist came dope as usual. But Pee surprised the hell out of me. Hes not even back to the HNIC pee where there were some signs of the impending fall off, but this is the dopest he has been in years. He almost sounds alive again. He is actually rhyming again. Plus the album has the old new york feel to it. Solid 4 outta 5 and this is coming from someone that lost all faith in Pee
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ALCHEMIST IS MY FAVORITE SAMPLE-DRIVEN PRODUCER
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LOL, typical that you would like this average album LOL
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Not bad at all. Al and P make a good duo, almost as good as P and Havoc.
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Not bad at all. Al and P make a good duo, almost as good as P and Havoc.
Yes I agree they do make a good combo but this album didnt impress me much at all.
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The beats carry this album. But I put Prodigy in the same place as Kurupt. He had so much dope material back in the 90's and then he just fell off. So bad that even when he puts out good material it is still compared to his old stuff. Mobb Deep and DPG's careers are so similar to me.
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Not bad at all. Al and P make a good duo, almost as good as P and Havoc.
Yes I agree they do make a good combo but this album didnt impress me much at all.
and your opinion holds no weight lol
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LOL, typical that you would like this average album LOL
Seriously dude, your turning into the worst kind of hater. The album, for mixtape standards was banging! Alchemist bass isn't always great, and P's lyrics aren't Infamous/Hell On Earth level, but definitley better than anything the've done since Murda Muzik. Songs were right to point, nice & short, and the samples were flawless. Not the best album of the year, but not really an "album".
Return of the Mac=Mixtape of the Year!!!
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LOL, typical that you would like this average album LOL
Seriously dude, your turning into the worst kind of hater. The album, for mixtape standards was banging! Alchemist bass isn't always great, and P's lyrics aren't Infamous/Hell On Earth level, but definitley better than anything the've done since Murda Muzik. Songs were right to point, nice & short, and the samples were flawless. Not the best album of the year, but not really an "album".
Return of the Mac=Mixtape of the Year!!!
Agreed. But I would put the Murda Mix Cd as the best thing since Murda Muzik, then this in a close second behind it. It is indeed hands down the best pre warm-up type of mixtape/album that's come out in a long time. The vast majority of people who've listened like it and I bet the sales will reflect that.
The people that hate on it all do for the reasons you mentioned… because Prodigy isn’t writing top five lyricist caliber hip-hop quotable lines in the first 4 bars. Well…he hasn’t been doing that since 99' it’s been almost a decade and it’s probably time we got used to it. Although I can understand the frustration people have, I mean the guy is certainly capable of writing good material we hear it from time to time. So when he’s sleeping on the mic it’s definitely aggravating. But hey, at least he isn't sleep-rapping about all his g-unit fame and money, singing ridiculous melody hooks and parading himself as V.I.Pee!!
Overall it’s a quality product.
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P is still a shadow of his former self, its Alchemist that shines on this one.
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LOL, typical that you would like this average album LOL
Seriously dude, your turning into the worst kind of hater. The album, for mixtape standards was banging! Alchemist bass isn't always great, and P's lyrics aren't Infamous/Hell On Earth level, but definitley better than anything the've done since Murda Muzik. Songs were right to point, nice & short, and the samples were flawless. Not the best album of the year, but not really an "album".
Return of the Mac=Mixtape of the Year!!!
Agreed. But I would put the Murda Mix Cd as the best thing since Murda Muzik, then this in a close second behind it. It is indeed hands down the best pre warm-up type of mixtape/album that's come out in a long time. The vast majority of people who've listened like it and I bet the sales will reflect that.
The people that hate on it all do for the reasons you mentioned… because Prodigy isn’t writing top five lyricist caliber hip-hop quotable lines in the first 4 bars. Well…he hasn’t been doing that since 99' it’s been almost a decade and it’s probably time we got used to it. Although I can understand the frustration people have, I mean the guy is certainly capable of writing good material we hear it from time to time. So when he’s sleeping on the mic it’s definitely aggravating. But hey, at least he isn't sleep-rapping about all his g-unit fame and money, singing ridiculous melody hooks and parading himself as V.I.Pee!!
Overall it’s a quality product.
Well said, alot of people think rap is supposed to still be the same way as they were 10 years ago. He's an older, richer guy and all that hunger displayed on the Infamous & Hell on Earth will never be back.
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This is the best P has sounded in a minute, he's very similar to Kurupt in that they both are not what they once were but are still capable of putting out dope music
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
www.bestbuy.com
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
www.bestbuy.com
Smartass. Anybody got some cash?
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you basically heard the real good tracks from that pre mac mixtape. and i don't get why the fuck there is a pre mixtape for the official mixtape which is for the album
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
www.bestbuy.com
Smartass. Anybody got some cash?
http://www.monster.com/ (http://www.monster.com/)
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
www.bestbuy.com
Smartass. Anybody got some cash?
http://www.monster.com/ (http://www.monster.com/)
Funny.
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Here you go nigger
http://www.mediafire.com/?bjzwndj2ym5 (http://www.mediafire.com/?bjzwndj2ym5)
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Here you go nigger
http://www.mediafire.com/?bjzwndj2ym5 (http://www.mediafire.com/?bjzwndj2ym5)
that must be in shit quality at 49 mbs
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
It's 9.99 at best buy dude. Even if you're broke you can afford a 10-dollar album. You have to reward good behavior or else everyone looses. I can understand not buying albums you don’t like, but when what you heard of an album makes you want to hear more the artist has done their part, now it's time for you to do yours. We can't bitch about the decline of hip-hop if we download the albums we actually like without buying them.
The only reason Prodigy took this album in the direction he did is because Blood Money didn’t sell dick. If this album does better that sends a BIG positive message. Conversely, if it does just as bad or worse as blood money... well you get the idea.
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
It's 9.99 at best buy dude. Even if you're broke you can afford a 10-dollar album. You have to reward good behavior or else everyone looses. I can understand not buying albums you don’t like, but when what you heard of an album makes you want to hear more the artist has done their part, now it's time for you to do yours. We can't bitch about the decline of hip-hop if we download the albums we actually like without buying them.
The only reason Prodigy took this album in the direction he did is because Blood Money didn’t sell dick. If this album does better that sends a BIG positive message. Conversely, if it does just as bad or worse as blood money... well you get the idea.
I definitley think that Blood Money selling nothing was a big reason for Prod stepping it up, but he's also probably heard quite a bit of shit from the critcis and fans alike about his lazy delievery and made the change.
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
It's 9.99 at best buy dude. Even if you're broke you can afford a 10-dollar album. You have to reward good behavior or else everyone looses. I can understand not buying albums you don’t like, but when what you heard of an album makes you want to hear more the artist has done their part, now it's time for you to do yours. We can't bitch about the decline of hip-hop if we download the albums we actually like without buying them.
The only reason Prodigy took this album in the direction he did is because Blood Money didn’t sell dick. If this album does better that sends a BIG positive message. Conversely, if it does just as bad or worse as blood money... well you get the idea.
I definitley think that Blood Money selling nothing was a big reason for Prod stepping it up, but he's also probably heard quite a bit of shit from the critcis and fans alike about his lazy delievery and made the change.
I think both were taken into consideration. But this "mixtape" > Blood Money.
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
It's 9.99 at best buy dude. Even if you're broke you can afford a 10-dollar album. You have to reward good behavior or else everyone looses. I can understand not buying albums you don’t like, but when what you heard of an album makes you want to hear more the artist has done their part, now it's time for you to do yours. We can't bitch about the decline of hip-hop if we download the albums we actually like without buying them.
The only reason Prodigy took this album in the direction he did is because Blood Money didn’t sell dick. If this album does better that sends a BIG positive message. Conversely, if it does just as bad or worse as blood money... well you get the idea.
I definitley think that Blood Money selling nothing was a big reason for Prod stepping it up, but he's also probably heard quite a bit of shit from the critcis and fans alike about his lazy delievery and made the change.
I think both were taken into consideration. But this "mixtape" > Blood Money.
Yeah, ROTM was waaaaay better. I hope HNIC 2 is this good. 8)
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I think I'ma have to check this. Anybody gots a link? :-\
It's 9.99 at best buy dude. Even if you're broke you can afford a 10-dollar album. You have to reward good behavior or else everyone looses. I can understand not buying albums you don’t like, but when what you heard of an album makes you want to hear more the artist has done their part, now it's time for you to do yours. We can't bitch about the decline of hip-hop if we download the albums we actually like without buying them.
The only reason Prodigy took this album in the direction he did is because Blood Money didn’t sell dick. If this album does better that sends a BIG positive message. Conversely, if it does just as bad or worse as blood money... well you get the idea.
I definitley think that Blood Money selling nothing was a big reason for Prod stepping it up, but he's also probably heard quite a bit of shit from the critcis and fans alike about his lazy delievery and made the change.
I think both were taken into consideration. But this "mixtape" > Blood Money.
Yeah, ROTM was waaaaay better. I hope HNIC 2 is this good. 8)
For real. I got HNIC awhile back but I was bumping the living shit out of it. Loved it.
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The Mobb's gotta realize that there time for having gold and platinum records might be over with now, and the onky way to stay in the game and at least keep your respect, is too try o return to something close to the older days.
There's nothing wrong with trying new sounds either, but when you have an album like Blood Money that alienates his core audience for a few new fans, getting the old ones back aren't easy to do. I've accepted the fact that the Prodigy of Infamous and Hell on Earth will probably never be back, but I'm open to him improving his game still.
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Alchemist really brought some dope shit here. A lot of these beats shit on a lot of the beats that he used on 1st Infantry. The way he flipped the samples were damn near perfect in some instances. So Pee really benefited from that. He's bascially the same rapper he's been for the last 5 years, but with Al's beats it really helps.
I really liked and supported this shit because its one rapper / one producer, they did some dope videos and released them on YouTube. They didn't follow the gay ass generic formula that all the mainstream albums follow these days. This is shit that is def worth supporting.
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Alchemist really brought some dope shit here. A lot of these beats shit on a lot of the beats that he used on 1st Infantry. The way he flipped the samples were damn near perfect in some instances. So Pee really benefited from that. He's bascially the same rapper he's been for the last 5 years, but with Al's beats it really helps.
I really liked and supported this shit because its one rapper / one producer, they did some dope videos and released them on YouTube. They didn't follow the gay ass generic formula that all the mainstream albums follow these days. This is shit that is def worth supporting.
You don't feel like he has stepped his game up at all since the last 1-2 years?
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Alchemist really brought some dope shit here. A lot of these beats shit on a lot of the beats that he used on 1st Infantry. The way he flipped the samples were damn near perfect in some instances. So Pee really benefited from that. He's bascially the same rapper he's been for the last 5 years, but with Al's beats it really helps.
I really liked and supported this shit because its one rapper / one producer, they did some dope videos and released them on YouTube. They didn't follow the gay ass generic formula that all the mainstream albums follow these days. This is shit that is def worth supporting.
You don't feel like he has stepped his game up at all since the last 1-2 years?
Hmm, honestly I can't really speak on that. I listened to Blood Money like once but just the notion of that album made it unlistenable to me. He went from an ELITE MC to a terrible rapper almost overnight. So even if he's bounced back from being a terrible rapper, it's still a very far cry from where he used to be.
I've always liked Pee even if he's not the lyricist he used to be. He can still convey some sinister shit and you get the feeling dude is hella depressed when he's writing some of these songs. But please believe without Al's beats on here, Pee doesn't come off nearly as nice.