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Title: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: es-jay on April 10, 2007, 12:37:29 PM
this is taken from D12World board, so information isnt directly from me, but here we are:

Earlier this morning, Eminem was live on Detroit's WKQI Channel 9-5-5 radio station talking about a number of topics. I will try to get the mp3 later this week.

Summary:

1 year (tomorrow) of Proof's death: Em talked about how recording this album has been very different and the mood has changed quite a bit. He said he visits Proofs grave several times a month and he wish he could go more, but he is quite busy. Also said that the album title and release date are not true and that the album won't be out earlier than August with a single in June. Also stated that Proof will be heavily featured on the album and this will be the final D12 album.

Kim: Talked about she is full of lies and all this stuff..nothing really important

Beef with 50 Cent: Em said that him and 50 have been talking a lot lately about al of this beef with Cam'ron and Em said he is not getting involved in anyway. He has been telling 50 to drop it and its not worth it, but 50 isn't going to. As for dropping Young Buck,etc Em said he doubts any of that will happen and 50 really isn't as mad as he seems. Stated he recorded 3 full tracks with 50 for 50's summer album (if 50 decides to not include Young Buck, etc)

Re-Up album: Em said the goal was not to make money but to promote the new artists and he feels he did a damn good job by it going platinum off one single and how he sold more albums than several rap albums in 2006. He said if he did want to release another single, it would be "Jimmy Crack Corn" but it probably won't happen

New solo album: Confirmed working heavily on his final album that he will release at the earliest December of this year and he said it will proably he out sometime next year. Wants the first single to be different that previous times and he said this album will lyrically be his best

Detox: Still said you can expect it out this September. Dre is putting the real finishing touches on it but still is hoping to record with a unexpected secret guest Em wouldn't reveal
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: Lunatic on April 10, 2007, 12:41:06 PM
i'm shocked this is going to be the final d12 album

I wonder why that is ???
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: 0000000 on April 10, 2007, 12:50:29 PM
Props

I wonder how the secret guest is for DETOX???
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 10, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
unreleased Troutman vocals LMAO

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Meho on April 10, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
Props. It would be cool to get the audio. Looks like Em really matured, good news about Detox  8)

I hope the secret guest is Stevie Wonder.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: 7even on April 10, 2007, 02:50:46 PM
well, seems like proof's death hasn't given him his inner fire again, so nothing ever will. r.i.p. slim shady, it's crazy how a person can fall apart.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: AlerG on April 10, 2007, 03:20:30 PM
He said it will be his best lyrically, that's promising,

chill
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: 7even on April 10, 2007, 03:43:09 PM
If this is going to be his best lyrically I'm sending everybody in this thread an eigth.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: notorious^q8I on April 10, 2007, 05:45:57 PM
lol detox is gonna have either suge or micheal jackson......... maybe eazy?? doubt it
doubt the whole interview is real any ways
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 10, 2007, 05:51:47 PM
who is he talking about? quincy jones? michael jackson? a 2pac verse?lol
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Dopeisjay on April 10, 2007, 05:55:17 PM
man i wonder who the secret guest could be?..
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: dameons on April 10, 2007, 07:56:55 PM
there we go....."Finishing Touches" is great news.......With  in 10 weeks, I bet a street single is out.....
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 10, 2007, 08:40:20 PM
Has this story been verified?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 10, 2007, 08:55:16 PM
good point, last time i went on d12 world(years back) everyone thought eminem was the best rapper and best producer on this planet ........and well.....they check bizzares music
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: dglock on April 10, 2007, 09:13:47 PM
That would be crazy if eazy was on the album, that would be so fucked up! same with pac or something, be crazier with E though.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 10, 2007, 11:31:09 PM
sad about D12 their situation reminds me of Lost Boyz....and about secret Guess on Detox, I say Michael Jackson or Garth Brooks
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on April 11, 2007, 02:26:48 AM
lol detox is gonna have either suge or micheal jackson......... maybe eazy?? doubt it
doubt the whole interview is real any ways


lol at Suge - that would be too funny. Don't think it'll be MJ - Dre turned down offers to produce for him on his last album.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: The Predator on April 11, 2007, 03:04:49 AM
Quote
Confirmed working heavily on his final album

Rappers need to shut the fuck up with this 'final/last record bullshit'

Secret guest?

D.O.C got his voice back????
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Brutus on April 11, 2007, 03:22:46 AM
to record with
=> the verse is not been recorded yet => that is not eazy or pac
maybe D.O.C.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on April 11, 2007, 03:37:56 AM
to record with
=> the verse is not been recorded yet => that is not eazy or pac
maybe D.O.C.

DOC's been in the studio with Dre so I don't think it's him, unless they're waiting on new vocal chord surgery on something.

I reckon it'll be a musical legend, but not Stevie Wonder or Elton John, because they're always doing collabos.

Burt Bacharach? George Clinton?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on April 11, 2007, 09:47:15 AM
Has this story been verified?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 11, 2007, 09:58:09 AM
I think the guest will be someone dre/em/dre's camp has never worked with.

i think eazy or pac vocals are more likely than wonder,clinton, brooks etc.

given Em's apparent pull with Afeni, I suspect it may be 2pac verses. Not recorded can just mean not recorded over the dre beat yet you know?

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: nppwrtwdt on April 11, 2007, 11:36:53 AM
propss for the read!
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: No Compute on April 11, 2007, 11:42:34 AM
I doubt it's Eazy or Pac not only because the way it's worded but also because I don't think Dre would use their vocals. An unexpected would be somebody like Buckethead or something really crazy like that I think. But it's more likely to be somebody as anticlimactic as Jay-Z.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Elevz on April 11, 2007, 12:00:27 PM
I was instantly thinking of Michael Jackson, somehow. :D
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: dameons on April 11, 2007, 12:35:33 PM
Dre has refused to work with M.J. in the past and dissed him, it won't be him.....Rakim or ice cube....
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 11, 2007, 01:11:46 PM
anyone know why dre won't fuck with MJ? where's trauma when you need 'im....

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Elevz on April 11, 2007, 01:13:12 PM
I don't know, but maybe that's the big surprise: how Dre and MJ did get to work together in the end, or something ;)
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Don Jacob on April 11, 2007, 02:52:29 PM
the doors with jim

i got a dollar on that!
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Don Jacob on April 11, 2007, 02:53:55 PM
i know it's been done before, but that'd be dope if him and trent reznor worked together again


btw what was the song that they worked on together again?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 11, 2007, 02:54:33 PM
i don't think dre ever worked with trent reznor.

ha, the doors would be the SHIT with dre

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Elevz on April 11, 2007, 03:08:04 PM
Beatles?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 11, 2007, 03:14:04 PM
i've read dre say he is a beatles fan and you can tell based on his sensibility for pop. would be dope

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: AlerG on April 11, 2007, 05:25:34 PM
Yeah Dre and Rezner worked together, i think the song was called "Even Deeper"

chill
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: tonyscarbones on April 11, 2007, 09:02:40 PM
they shoulda asked em why him and his crew tried to capatilize off proof's death sellin tshirts for money for his family

his boys are millionaires and they can't take care of his fam?  they gotta sell shirts?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 11, 2007, 10:54:07 PM
is this reznor song available on the internet?

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: Al Bundy on April 11, 2007, 10:55:10 PM
Yeah Dre and Rezner worked together, i think the song was called "Even Deeper"

chill

Damn. I might have to limewire that.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: es-jay on April 12, 2007, 05:07:45 AM
Has this story been verified?

like i said it was on D12 World. it would make sense for Eminem to be on the radio a year on from Proof passing.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Shawn Nutt on April 23, 2007, 11:08:13 AM
Shady/Aftermath really steppin it up again... good news, hope its true
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: smp4life on April 23, 2007, 11:39:16 AM
I would love to hear Dre re-vamp an Eazy verse but Dre doesn't work with dead artists. At least I believe he's said that a few times.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: XaNdEr on April 23, 2007, 11:49:47 AM
I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 11:54:14 AM
Can't wait to hear what Em's got cookin. I'm still not excited about Detox anymore though :-[
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: XaNdEr on April 23, 2007, 12:00:53 PM
Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: Elevz on April 23, 2007, 12:07:38 PM
I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.

However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 12:18:48 PM
Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.

True, I lost my faith in Crook a while ago though lol. Can't disagree with being open to quality music.

I thought the Re-Up was a step in best direction for Em. I like that you mentioned Jimmy Crack Corn and No Apologies because they are both great songs, but so different. He really had some great lines on this album, which he didn't do on the Encore. His voice still sounded a bit strange, especially on the 2nd track, but  don't mind it as much as long as he's not talking stupid shit. Jimmy Crack Corn was kinda silly, but Em was flipping some serious verbal gymnastics on that. His flow is nuts, and I'm hoping he uses that formula on the next album, instead of making a super silly record again.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: XaNdEr on April 24, 2007, 12:00:37 AM
I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.

However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?


Dr. Dre set the standards for new (popular, mainstream as well as underground) music with the release of his first 2 albums. Back in '92 he introduced G-Funk to the world, which brought a whole new sound to hiphop (listen to some 80's records for example and notice the difference) and got mad spins on the radio, many producers and rappers based their style on that whole gangstarap genre over G-Funk beats.

In 1999 with the release of Dre's 2001, he made a new sound, which got heavily used by many other cats as well (for example listen to Southern records around 2000) got developped by others, but Dre did set the standard for a lot of new, fresh material back in 1999. As far as rappin' goes with Dre, since most of his lyrics is ghostwritten anyways, it wasn't anything new.

What i see nowadays is a game which is stagnated, it doesn't move on anymore but sticks to same old scripts and formula's, just to get money. Nobody is darin' to take any risk of making something new, and those who do get no exposure at all. My hopes are aimed at Dre, maybe he can come up with anything new and fresh that at least gets some others to make something new too (wether it's based on Dre's album or not, i don't care, anything better then right now).

And with Dre using a orchestra for makin' beats for Detox and his possible storyline on his album, with everyone playing a sort of role, just like a movie, it at least has some potential to be new and fresh you know. But then again, we're talkin' about Dre who flips the script for his album so many times i wouldn't be surprised if nothing from what i said above comes true. But you have to admit that this concept for an album is different then the most of the game is doin' right now, so at least it gives us some hope for change.




Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.

True, I lost my faith in Crook a while ago though lol. Can't disagree with being open to quality music.

I thought the Re-Up was a step in best direction for Em. I like that you mentioned Jimmy Crack Corn and No Apologies because they are both great songs, but so different. He really had some great lines on this album, which he didn't do on the Encore. His voice still sounded a bit strange, especially on the 2nd track, but  don't mind it as much as long as he's not talking stupid shit. Jimmy Crack Corn was kinda silly, but Em was flipping some serious verbal gymnastics on that. His flow is nuts, and I'm hoping he uses that formula on the next album, instead of making a super silly record again.


Real talk, but i hope he does something unexpected, like doin' another style which nobody has ever heard, something that will make all the haters secretly order his album, you know.  :D
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 24, 2007, 07:33:01 AM
Maybe it's 2pac's first appearance after faking his death in 96'.

no.. in all seriousness, I think it's probably going to be a non-rap artist.  Someone like Micheal Jackson or Stevie Wonder, or Whitney Houston, something like that.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Elevz on April 24, 2007, 09:42:45 AM
Dr. Dre set the standards for new (popular, mainstream as well as underground) music with the release of his first 2 albums. Back in '92 he introduced G-Funk to the world, which brought a whole new sound to hiphop (listen to some 80's records for example and notice the difference) and got mad spins on the radio, many producers and rappers based their style on that whole gangstarap genre over G-Funk beats.

It's debatable whether he invented that or not. I must admit personally I know too little of G-Funk to tell, but I heard how a similar style of G-Funk had been around in the late 80s and how Dre twisted it to make it his own. Nothing groundbreaking at all, just a really good twist for commercialising the music.

In 1999 with the release of Dre's 2001, he made a new sound, which got heavily used by many other cats as well (for example listen to Southern records around 2000) got developped by others, but Dre did set the standard for a lot of new, fresh material back in 1999. As far as rappin' goes with Dre, since most of his lyrics is ghostwritten anyways, it wasn't anything new.

The fact that all of his lyrics after EVIL4ZAGGIN have been ghost written has little to do with the question whether they're innovative or not, but I assume that means you never meant to say you were expecting innovative lyrics from Dre after all, or were you?

What i see nowadays is a game which is stagnated, it doesn't move on anymore but sticks to same old scripts and formula's, just to get money. Nobody is darin' to take any risk of making something new, and those who do get no exposure at all. My hopes are aimed at Dre, maybe he can come up with anything new and fresh that at least gets some others to make something new too (wether it's based on Dre's album or not, i don't care, anything better then right now).

Damn well Dre won't stick his head out for his old school fans, only to find it chopped off by the masses. Let's not forget, the "state of hip-hop" doesn't stand alone; there's a bigger picture to be found. Popular art is rather uninspiring now. It's not so much about the innovative artists not getting the exposure they deserve; they simply don't appeal to the people. You can cry all day about how uninspiring hip-hop is now, but as long as that's the music the target groups want, nothing'll change. I don't know why people expect Dre to be coming with something completely different, when he has proved throughout time that he's constantly adapting to the current state of the business.

That means, Dre too knows people don't care about albums anymore. Why would he drop a cinematic album, when people just want a wild song? That surely does please us, the retro-minded avid hip-hop fans, but the market doesn't work that way anymore.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: J$crILLa on April 24, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
Maybe it's 2pac's first appearance after faking his death in 96'.



thats what i was thnkin
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Post by: 3331 on April 24, 2007, 12:43:21 PM
The fact that all of his lyrics after EVIL4ZAGGIN have been ghost written has little to do with the question whether they're innovative or not, but I assume that means you never meant to say you were expecting innovative lyrics from Dre after all, or were you?

wait he wrote on EFIL4ZAGGIN? i thought ren or somebody wrote his shit on that for him.



i dont trust em until he ADMITS encore was a failure...
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Elevz on April 24, 2007, 12:48:45 PM
The fact that all of his lyrics after EVIL4ZAGGIN have been ghost written has little to do with the question whether they're innovative or not, but I assume that means you never meant to say you were expecting innovative lyrics from Dre after all, or were you?

wait he wrote on EFIL4ZAGGIN? i thought ren or somebody wrote his shit on that for him.



i dont trust em until he ADMITS encore was a failure...

lol you're probably right - I don't know much about Dre's music, but I remember he wrote some lyrics for some NWA album. With N.W.A only having a few albums out, he surely never wrote after their last, evil4zaggin. I'm not sure what album he did write some of his own lyrics for though.
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Post by: XaNdEr on April 24, 2007, 11:52:15 PM
11z im gettin' tired of you breaking down everyone's posts into parts and try to counter everything they say. You didn't like gangstarap anymore you said before, so why do you even respond on a thread about Dre, stay of my nuts fool.

If you don't like gangstarap anymore fuck off, but stay outta my way, thanx.

Dre changed the game with the chronic, period. Dre introduced a fresh sound with 2001, and made it popular, period.

And whatever you say about it, i don't care, i know i am right about this. Now go jack yourself of or something (no homo).
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Post by: Elevz on April 25, 2007, 01:32:29 AM
11z im gettin' tired of you breaking down everyone's posts into parts and try to counter everything they say. You didn't like gangstarap anymore you said before, so why do you even respond on a thread about Dre, stay of my nuts fool.

If you don't like gangstarap anymore fuck off, but stay outta my way, thanx.

Dre changed the game with the chronic, period. Dre introduced a fresh sound with 2001, and made it popular, period.

And whatever you say about it, i don't care, i know i am right about this. Now go jack yourself of or something (no homo).

You ignorant little piece of shit, I'm asking a fucking question, and you get at me like that? Now who's the little homo who should go jack off to something? Can't handle someone questioning your assumptions? And that makes me the one with the discreditable opinion, only because I'm trying to look at it from a broader perspective?

 :tosser:

Tired of me breaking things down? I'm sorry I may perhaps have a style more educated than yours. Cry me a fucking river. You would make a perfect couple with the homie Meho. I feel sorry for your pathetic life, loser.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: XaNdEr on April 25, 2007, 01:41:56 AM
Hahaha, you funny man. Goin' all crazy over some internetbullshit.  :laugh:

You didn't asked me a question, you broke my post down in pieces and have to whine about every little part of it, if you don't like my post ignore it. I don't see what you have to whine about since you're so developped and intelligent that you gave up on "gangstarap". Why are you here if you don't like it anymore?

I don't think i have to say anything else, pathetic little kid. It's cool if you don't like my opinion or whatever, but just ingore it then, you only make a fool of yourself. You always have to comment on what others say and make huge megaposts about what is wrong about someone else's opinion and arguments, fuck you for not respecting anyone's opinion and cry like a little baby.

My name ain't a dick so keep it out your mouth, thanx.  :)
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: Elevz on April 25, 2007, 02:15:37 AM
Since you like the academic style so much, peep this.

You didn't asked me a question, you broke my post down in pieces and have to whine about every little part of it

First off, it's "didn't ask" or "never asked". Now if it ain't a question, what's this? Oh, you're right, those are multiple questions:

However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?

You replied to that, and I gave you an opposing view - a little reflection on your thoughts. If you didn't come here for discussion, why cry when someone actually does try discussing? And why do you feel like someone's whining, just because they don't naturally agree with you?

I don't see what you have to whine about since you're so developped and intelligent that you gave up on "gangstarap". Why are you here if you don't like it anymore?

I never did claim I was too good for gangsta rap. The fact that an MC Eiht album won't appeal to me should be natural. In fact, why do you enjoy Young Buck's gangsta talking so much when that probably has very little to do with your own personal frame of reference and where you stand in life? Because for me personally, I don't see it. I enjoy hearing some good raps every now and then, but I haven't heard any really good gangstarap in a very long time.

In fact, why do you even care about my motives?

I don't think i have to say anything else, pathetic little kid. It's cool if you don't like my opinion or whatever, but just ingore it then, you only make a fool of yourself.

I don't ignore people. I do like your opinion, that's why I asked some questions about it. That's why I gave you some reflection. Now who's making a fool of himself by crying out loud because he's been disagreed with?

You always have to comment on what others say and make huge megaposts about what is wrong about someone else's opinion and arguments, fuck you for not respecting anyone's opinion and cry like a little baby.

Once again, I'm really sorry for attempting to get into a discussion. That's not necessarily about stating what's wrong; it's trying to find a common agreement. With that being said, how could me reflecting on your opinion possibly mean that I don't respect it? It seems there's a little miscommunication going on here. Don't get mad at me for that.

My name ain't a dick so keep it out your mouth, thanx.  :)

You down with NIK? If you like, that's cool with me.

Hahaha, you funny man. Goin' all crazy over some internetbullshit.  :laugh:

:loser: Take that mirror away from your face, you might break it.

11z im gettin' tired of you breaking down everyone's posts into parts and try to counter everything they say. You didn't like gangstarap anymore you said before, so why do you even respond on a thread about Dre, stay of my nuts fool.

If you don't like gangstarap anymore fuck off, but stay outta my way, thanx.

And whatever you say about it, i don't care, i know i am right about this. Now go jack yourself of or something (no homo).

 :wavey:
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: XaNdEr on April 25, 2007, 02:28:19 AM
Lol. You do realize that the fact you don't like gangstarap anymore and still speaking on those subjects and hangin' around here, makes you a fool, don't you?

I don't care how "academic" you are, just leave me be, i don't feel any need to go into endless internet discussions  about my wrong spelling/grammar or my opinion on music/gangstarap with you. For me, internet is fun, and there's no fun in dissing you over and over again. The only thing you can seem to come up with is chidlish stuff like "Take that mirror away from your face, you might break it." Kids in 2nd grade don't even say that shit anymore.  :-\

And no, i'm not down with Nik in any way, that jewbag is not even worth my attention, just like you. So this is my last post on this subject, do yourself a favor and leave me alone, you ain't gonna get anything out of it anyways.

So peace dude, have a nice job breaking down everyone's posts academic-style.  :-*
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Elevz on April 25, 2007, 02:43:23 AM
Lol. You do realize that the fact you don't like gangstarap anymore and still speaking on those subjects and hangin' around here, makes you a fool, don't you?

Wrong. Like I said, that's a misconception. It's just that I've heard little thrilling gangstarap lately. Does that mean I shouldn't speak on it? Man, if it were up to you, you would be having a discussion board with just you and Meho. Good luck talking about how perfectly you agree on how great Detox will be.

I don't care how "academic" you are, just leave me be, i don't feel any need to go into endless internet discussions  about my wrong spelling/grammar or my opinion on music/gangstarap with you. For me, internet is fun, and there's no fun in dissing you over and over again. The only thing you can seem to come up with is chidlish stuff like "Take that mirror away from your face, you might break it." Kids in 2nd grade don't even say that shit anymore.  :-\

Oh, so pointing out the contradictions in you (accusing me of getting personally involved, when it's you complaining about my personal motives) is some 2nd grade stuff, while citing NIK's random "get off my nuts" style is perfectly mature?

And no, i'm not down with Nik in any way, that jewbag is not even worth my attention, just like you. So this is my last post on this subject, do yourself a favor and leave me alone, you ain't gonna get anything out of it anyways.

Then why act like it - after all, you're more or less trying to duplicate NIK, aren't you? I don't think NIK's a jewbag who's not worth the attention: that's where we differ. I respect him as much as I respect you, because no matter how much people may disagree, they're still authentic and real. So have a good time hating on everyone who differs from you, if that's what you feel like doing. Bless you.
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: shaydee on April 25, 2007, 03:03:17 AM
imagine if the secret guest on detox is SUGE KNIGHT lmfao
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: XaNdEr on April 25, 2007, 08:16:17 AM
imagine if the secret guest on detox is SUGE KNIGHT lmfao


Haha yeah. That'll be funny as fuck to see that happen.

Dr. Dre - I'm not a snitch (Feat. 50 Cent & Suge Kinght)

 :D :D
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Tanjential on April 25, 2007, 10:42:48 AM
elevz and xander, whoah

regardless of any personal beef, cause i'm cool with both of you...

Dre has never written his verses. Period. Not on efil4zaggin, not on straight outta compton...never.

If G Funk DID exist in the late 80's, Dre DID have a hand in it (nwa, atl, etc.)

And my personal opinion- Dre did largely invent and introduce a sub genre to the world in the early 90s and he did come and blow the game out again in 99.

-T
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Shawn Nutt on April 25, 2007, 12:20:20 PM
lmao @ this xander dude... these forums are meant FOR discussion and debate... we're SUPPOSED to talk about rap, and give our own opinions on it... if youre not here to discuss music why the fuck are you here? news threads maybe? well then dont post unless youre ready for people to reply to it

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That is why dubcc is also called a "discussion board"
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 25, 2007, 01:23:42 PM
I rather hear Dre work with westcoast cats while still makin' new, fresh, groundbreakin' music. That could really bring the West back again, everyone will relate the West to that new music-style (whatever it might be) but that's probably never happening like Michael Jackson turnin' black again.

I know Detox (if it ever drops) is gonna be dope, i just hope it introduces a new sound to the game, cause change won't really be a bad thing with everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing and producing the same old beats.

However, how much protential for making "fresh, groundbreaking" music does the west coast really have these days? I wouldn't know - I haven't seen the potential. And how are you expecting a Dr. Dre album to make a change about "everyone rappin' about the same ol' thing"?


Dr. Dre set the standards for new (popular, mainstream as well as underground) music with the release of his first 2 albums. Back in '92 he introduced G-Funk to the world, which brought a whole new sound to hiphop (listen to some 80's records for example and notice the difference) and got mad spins on the radio, many producers and rappers based their style on that whole gangstarap genre over G-Funk beats.

In 1999 with the release of Dre's 2001, he made a new sound, which got heavily used by many other cats as well (for example listen to Southern records around 2000) got developped by others, but Dre did set the standard for a lot of new, fresh material back in 1999. As far as rappin' goes with Dre, since most of his lyrics is ghostwritten anyways, it wasn't anything new.

What i see nowadays is a game which is stagnated, it doesn't move on anymore but sticks to same old scripts and formula's, just to get money. Nobody is darin' to take any risk of making something new, and those who do get no exposure at all. My hopes are aimed at Dre, maybe he can come up with anything new and fresh that at least gets some others to make something new too (wether it's based on Dre's album or not, i don't care, anything better then right now).

And with Dre using a orchestra for makin' beats for Detox and his possible storyline on his album, with everyone playing a sort of role, just like a movie, it at least has some potential to be new and fresh you know. But then again, we're talkin' about Dre who flips the script for his album so many times i wouldn't be surprised if nothing from what i said above comes true. But you have to admit that this concept for an album is different then the most of the game is doin' right now, so at least it gives us some hope for change.




Haha, i can imagine that. I'm still hopin' it wil ldroop, gotta keep faith in the rappers huh, just like Crooked, still hopin' he will finally drop his debut (after 7 years  :o ) this year as well. I'm always in for some quality music.

Besides that, i'm curious too about what way Eminem is goin' for his new (and possible last) album. On the Re-Up it felt like he was kinda testing different styles (for example compare Jimmy Crack Corn with No Apologies, which are both dope songs by the way) i'm wondering what he will come up with for his next album.

True, I lost my faith in Crook a while ago though lol. Can't disagree with being open to quality music.

I thought the Re-Up was a step in best direction for Em. I like that you mentioned Jimmy Crack Corn and No Apologies because they are both great songs, but so different. He really had some great lines on this album, which he didn't do on the Encore. His voice still sounded a bit strange, especially on the 2nd track, but  don't mind it as much as long as he's not talking stupid shit. Jimmy Crack Corn was kinda silly, but Em was flipping some serious verbal gymnastics on that. His flow is nuts, and I'm hoping he uses that formula on the next album, instead of making a super silly record again.


Real talk, but i hope he does something unexpected, like doin' another style which nobody has ever heard, something that will make all the haters secretly order his album, you know.  :D

They already do, I thought u knew 8)
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: XaNdEr on April 26, 2007, 01:36:26 AM
elevz and xander, whoah

regardless of any personal beef, cause i'm cool with both of you...

Dre has never written his verses. Period. Not on efil4zaggin, not on straight outta compton...never.

If G Funk DID exist in the late 80's, Dre DID have a hand in it (nwa, atl, etc.)

And my personal opinion- Dre did largely invent and introduce a sub genre to the world in the early 90s and he did come and blow the game out again in 99.

-T


That's what i was saying until that 11z dude started breaking my posts down "academic-style" to show what parts are wrong and stuff, fuck that. But man, i don't hold no grudges, it's all good to me man. I ain't respondin' to him anymore since that dude never can have discussions without making all these quote posts. And funniest thing is he ain't even diggin' gangstarap no more, but he is discussing it, lol.

And lol @ that Shwan Nutt dude who jumps on 11z nuts as soon as possible, but yeah, it's in the name i guess. You didn't even read my replies, just 11z last post, which i can't reply to cause i promised myself i wouldn't respond to any hater posts anymore, im not into netbeefs, so yeah... :-\

That's what's wrong with some peeps on this forum ,they jump to conclusions based on some posts, they never wanna take the time to see the bigger picture. All i can say is read the thread, and don't be biased, that's all. I ain't your daddy, choose your own path, i don't care.  8)

@ Reefer, you're right, they all got the money stashed away somewhere in they room, waitin' for the album to come out and be the first ones to cop it  ;)  8)
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Shawn Nutt on April 26, 2007, 11:03:05 AM
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And lol @ that Shwan Nutt dude who jumps on 11z nuts as soon as possible, but yeah, it's in the name i guess.

 ??? wtf are you talking about? i dont even know 11z, never talked to him before, and i hardly ever post here. -> http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=profile;u=8623;sa=showPosts (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=profile;u=8623;sa=showPosts)

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You didn't even read my replies, just 11z last post

i read every single word of this thread before i replied, but nice try

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All i can say is read the thread, and don't be biased, that's all.

im not biased at all... i dont know either of u two, but from what ive read, 11z really schooled u... none of your points held any weight, cuz 11z' "academic replies" were much more intelligent and easier to read

but hey, if u dont want e-beef or w/e, im done... i dont want it either... i just dont like being told im wrong when im 100% sure im right
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on April 26, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
sad about D12 their situation reminds me of Lost Boyz....and about secret Guess on Detox, I say Michael Jackson or Garth Brooks

Its the last d-12 cuz wthout Proff aint no d-12, not that im a fan.

As for DEtox, maybe a unheard eazy e verse???
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: Shawn Nutt on April 26, 2007, 11:59:27 AM
^ lol at your sig, is that u? :D
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board
Post by: Elevz on April 27, 2007, 09:34:07 AM
More babbling! Gotta love it.

That's what i was saying until that 11z dude started breaking my posts down "academic-style" to show what parts are wrong and stuff, fuck that. But man, i don't hold no grudges, it's all good to me man. I ain't respondin' to him anymore since that dude never can have discussions without making all these quote posts.

You're absolutely right. One should never try to structure thoughts and writings - that's bound to be objectionable.

That's what's wrong with some peeps on this forum ,they jump to conclusions based on some posts, they never wanna take the time to see the bigger picture.

That's an interesting point. Now read the rest of your own post:

And funniest thing is he ain't even diggin' gangstarap no more, but he is discussing it, lol.
And lol @ that Shwan Nutt dude who jumps on 11z nuts as soon as possible, but yeah, it's in the name i guess. You didn't even read my replies, just 11z last post, which i can't reply to cause i promised myself i wouldn't respond to any hater posts anymore, im not into netbeefs, so yeah... :-\

I guess that's what happens when you refuse to structure your thoughts.

:-*
Title: Re: Eminem talks New Album, Detox, Proof/D12, 50Cent. (taken from D12World board)
Post by: XaNdEr on April 27, 2007, 11:21:00 PM
Drop it off drop it off, bitch i got a sawed-off. Put that money in the bag ho i blow yo ass off.

 8) 8)