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Title: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: IzUwitIt on April 15, 2007, 02:13:39 AM
http://www.myspace.com/westcoastkam

not all i expected it to be after all the anticipation
its gonna be on the KamPain mixtape. Theres anotha new track on there with Tyrese too, maybe BC production
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Smoke on April 15, 2007, 02:22:41 AM
the song with Ty is  :o :o  :o :o :o :o :o , WESTCOAST to tha fullesT!!

GREAT LYRICS in Murder Dem Murders
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: wcsoldier on April 15, 2007, 02:23:13 AM
I like it a lot..  dark track.. when  is The Shelf coming ?
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tha Crip on April 15, 2007, 02:24:01 AM
props....im diggin the dark beat...same drums as stat quos "get low" song.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Rebel on April 15, 2007, 02:30:37 AM
Somebody rip this shit quick before the only version we get is with an annoying dj screaming over it, lol.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 15, 2007, 02:32:02 AM
please rippers, do the damn thang

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Brutus on April 15, 2007, 02:35:19 AM
haha "never gone be released " haha
props kam
how kam upload more than 4 song on myspace ?
where's snoop's verse ?
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 15, 2007, 02:38:15 AM

where's snoop's verse ?

snoop gets the last laugh, I bet snoop's verse will never be released.

damn, i hate myspace I ain't even heard the song yet...someone should riiiiiyip it
-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Bones01 on April 15, 2007, 02:38:48 AM
uploading that shit now homies. Looks like snoops verse is just cut. Feeling the beat  8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Bones01 on April 15, 2007, 02:39:42 AM
enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cslmow
 8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Smoke on April 15, 2007, 02:42:54 AM
homie can you upload that song with TY too ?
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 15, 2007, 02:50:28 AM
enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cslmow
 8)

props bones

thanks a griiiip man

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 15, 2007, 02:52:46 AM
i bet snoop rapped one of the verses that cam is spitting cause Kam probably wrote the verses in the first place.
-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: es-jay on April 15, 2007, 02:54:14 AM
enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cslmow
 8)

props to Bones
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Bones01 on April 15, 2007, 03:06:37 AM
homie can you upload that song with TY too ?
here you go
http://www.sendspace.com/file/san7jt  8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Rebel on April 15, 2007, 03:08:12 AM
enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cslmow
 8)

proped!
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Bones01 on April 15, 2007, 03:50:33 AM
Don't see what snoops reasoniong behind not releasing this. I mean guy dosen't have a clean rep he needs to preserve. For fucks sake he facing jail time now.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Meho on April 15, 2007, 03:59:42 AM
Damn, Dre gave Snoop some boring beats. I bet its Mark Batson co-produced.

Dope concept though, nice track overall.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Rebel on April 15, 2007, 04:08:07 AM
Damn, Dre gave Snoop some boring beats. I bet its Mark Batson co-produced.

Dope concept though, nice track overall.

C' mon, man... that beat was perfect for this concept, imo.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Brutus on April 15, 2007, 04:26:58 AM

how kam upload more than 4 song on myspace ?

Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: eazye on April 15, 2007, 04:38:49 AM
enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cslmow
 8)

props bones

thanks a griiiip man

-T
And shit sounds really good to me.Kam is the shit
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Jungleboy on April 15, 2007, 04:43:07 AM
here is a better version of

Kam feat. Tyrese - Show Your Off
 (http://www.zshare.net/audio/kam-show-you-off-feat-tyrese-mp3.html)

looks like a dj pooh production  8) 8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Davizz on April 15, 2007, 04:49:41 AM
^ Thanks! It sound like DJ Pooh!!! I love his sound.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Diggfinger on April 15, 2007, 04:54:52 AM
enjoy
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cslmow
 8)

Thanks alot!


here is a better version of

Kam feat. Tyrese - Show Your Off
 (http://www.zshare.net/audio/kam-show-you-off-feat-tyrese-mp3.html)

looks like a dj pooh production  8) 8)

thanks alot to you 2 rippers!

Jungleboy you tha bigg guerilla homie ;D

Listening to "Murder Dem Murderes" right now....dont know really what I think of it yet. (Quik is definately a doper producer than Dre though ;D).
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Diggfinger on April 15, 2007, 05:16:03 AM
homie can you upload that song with TY too ?

that song features Big Solo and Jo-Jo (from K-Ci and Jo-Jo), not Tyrese

 ::) ;)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: S.J on April 15, 2007, 06:44:33 AM
dope song, the other is very good too, Kam should release a album soon
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Brutus on April 15, 2007, 07:09:16 AM
i think only snoop lose not putting this on the album
he didn't want to give it way now it's given and only he lose cause the song is dope as fuck and he is not featured on it  ;D
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Soopafly on April 15, 2007, 07:19:50 AM
this aint that bad, suits kam and tha subject matter well .. but it sounds like dre is juss slidin artists beats rather then tailoring shit for  artists lately ... this track was orig for snoop ..i doubt very much dre thort hey this would be perfect for kam or this subject matter when he produced it !!!

dre may have 1 of da ears ind a business but u have snoop dogg ..a artist who he has crafted hits with for years and dre decides to give 50 that str8 2 tha bank beat ? dre must have been crazy .. that joint had a specific west coast sound which would have been perfect for any west coast artist, snoop, game , xzibit etc  ..or bishop - damani , g malone etc...but he give it to fifty??

i have the funni feelin we havent herd detox coz dre hasnt found that rythm he had when he went in on albums with albums like tha chronic -doggystyle - 2001 ..it seems like from all his latest productions he reshashin ol sounds ,addin a few new twists but it juss aint all comin together .. don't get me wrong it aint wack but i aint that next episode like people r expectin
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Lunatic on April 15, 2007, 07:23:49 AM
props for both tracks
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: IzUwitIt on April 15, 2007, 07:41:28 AM
homie can you upload that song with TY too ?

that song features Big Solo and Jo-Jo (from K-Ci and Jo-Jo), not Tyrese

 ::) ;)

Tyrese is on there
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: wcsoldier on April 15, 2007, 07:55:22 AM

i have the funni feelin we havent herd detox coz dre hasnt found that rythm he had when he went in on albums with albums like tha chronic -doggystyle - 2001 ..it seems like from all his latest productions he reshashin ol sounds ,addin a few new twists but it juss aint all comin together .. don't get me wrong it aint wack but i aint that next episode like people r expectin
yep exactly... Dre is tryin to find a "new" sound til 2003, most of his beats sound unfinished like he was experimenting sth, like all these average (weak) beats are part of a certain process to reach the Detox sound.. I don't know though if it's part of a process, decrease the quality of his beats voluntary (to shock more with Detox) or if he has definetely fallen off (that's possible unlike most here think)...
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 15, 2007, 08:03:10 AM
this shits bangin....nuttin wrong with the beat, it aint nuttin groundbreaking, but the shits more lyrical, some dark shit but its not too laid back to make niggaz sleep....

snoop should have put this on his album, cuz this is bangin, it is kinda controversial still, but overall this is nice, dre gave snoop a beat that sounded more 'dre' and they decide not to put it on the album, damn....

nice joint overall,

props

pz
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: F-cisco on April 15, 2007, 08:51:40 AM
this shits bangin....nuttin wrong with the beat, it aint nuttin groundbreaking, but the shits more lyrical, some dark shit but its not too laid back to make niggaz sleep....

snoop should have put this on his album, cuz this is bangin, it is kinda controversial still, but overall this is nice, dre gave snoop a beat that sounded more 'dre' and they decide not to put it on the album, damn....

nice joint overall,

props

pz


Dr.Dre has the final word on his tracks, heck, he almost pulled "Imagine" of off TBCT.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Meho on April 15, 2007, 08:57:17 AM
this aint that bad, suits kam and tha subject matter well .. but it sounds like dre is juss slidin artists beats rather then tailoring shit for  artists lately ... this track was orig for snoop ..i doubt very much dre thort hey this would be perfect for kam or this subject matter when he produced it !!!

dre may have 1 of da ears ind a business but u have snoop dogg ..a artist who he has crafted hits with for years and dre decides to give 50 that str8 2 tha bank beat ? dre must have been crazy .. that joint had a specific west coast sound which would have been perfect for any west coast artist, snoop, game , xzibit etc  ..or bishop - damani , g malone etc...but he give it to fifty??

i have the funni feelin we havent herd detox coz dre hasnt found that rythm he had when he went in on albums with albums like tha chronic -doggystyle - 2001 ..it seems like from all his latest productions he reshashin ol sounds ,addin a few new twists but it juss aint all comin together .. don't get me wrong it aint wack but i aint that next episode like people r expectin

Its not about what he gives to someone, its about what artists pick. And 50 hasnt picked a wack Dre beat yet.

Let me give you an example of Outta Control remix, which is IMO, the best Dre beat in the past few years. 50 said in an interview that he was in the studio with Dre and Dre was basically putting beats to "recycle bin". He put Outta Control remix on and wanted to delet it, when 50 heard it and told him to use that.

To me it seems like Snoop went for that laid back sound with Dre and probably passed on the bangers.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 15, 2007, 09:38:11 AM
^^^nah homie while i agree with parts of what you saying, its not always like that, often dre will give niggaz a few beats and then tell them to choose one, but when dre is in studio with big cats, he'll often work on a beat too....and about the outta control remix(which was dope but nuttin amazing, kinda the set off this weaker new sound imo)....dre and 50 made that joint originally for the massacre but 50 decided not to put it on the album thinking it aint good enough...then when he was working on the ost, 50 was going through his computer to check some of his shit he already got and was "buggin" why he didnt choose that joint to make the album...i remember reading it...anyway i think theres def a thing about which beat an artist will choose but dre will only have so many options to give a nigga, if something truly amazing was there, best believe snoop would have chosen it, nobody know dres sound better than snoop....but also dre needs energy and inspiration when making beats, something he gets when he works with new cats more often...and right now he sound is not inspired at all, this aint about people who are choosing his beats, its about dre not having the fire right now...dre at his peak would give you options and everyone of them would be fire....right now his either saving his best shit for himself or we have yet to hear it...i have faith in doc dre....

this joint here is nice still

pz
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 15, 2007, 09:41:06 AM
 8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: woof on April 15, 2007, 09:57:48 AM
Better rip by me : http://urlhaufp9sae71fvlujl.usercash.com  8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Matty on April 15, 2007, 10:52:56 AM
oops and yet another rip, this time by me. plenty of choice now 8)

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DF188D8C62FD237D


Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: es-jay on April 15, 2007, 10:55:29 AM
Better rip by me : http://urlhaufp9sae71fvlujl.usercash.com  8)

Props mate, that is good quality
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: CRAFTY on April 15, 2007, 10:56:08 AM
Good to hear some new Kam music!
Nice song...always interesting to hear Kam talking about politics too.

I don't see why some of you are hating on the beat. It's simple? Hell yes, but so what? It fits the concept of the song. In my opinion, there's no need for an explosive beat with all kinds of effects.

Hopefully the KamPain mixtape will drop soon 8)

Btw: can someone rip that "Imagine" song ft. Kam in good quality? Thx in advance!
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 15, 2007, 10:58:51 AM
^^word i actually like it more than most the stuff dre put out recently, even this will not get many spins, but it will get chcked more than anything else dre has put out in a minute....this is about the lyrics, the music has to play a backdrop to it....and it did...

dope joint
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on April 15, 2007, 11:05:54 AM
I dont know what you guys are on about, you get this in perfect CDQ and on a good system and its gonna sound crisp. Its not amazing but it sets the tone real nice.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: es-jay on April 15, 2007, 11:13:13 AM
I dont know what you guys are on about, you get this in perfect CDQ and on a good system and its gonna sound crisp. Its not amazing but it sets the tone real nice.

most of these people have shoddy pc speakers and dont put stuff on cd's. CD player probably covered in dust.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Eddie G. on April 15, 2007, 11:28:31 AM
homie can you upload that song with TY too ?

that song features Big Solo and Jo-Jo (from K-Ci and Jo-Jo), not Tyrese

 ::) ;)
Sure as hell sounds like Tyrese, and it says "Ty" on the Myspace, so  ???
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: No Compute on April 15, 2007, 11:33:45 AM
This Dre beat is better than the stuff he done on Jay Z's album and that new 50 Cent track I think.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Eddie G. on April 15, 2007, 11:36:38 AM
Goddamn, "Showin You Off" is the first official 2007 summer anthem!!! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Eddie G. on April 15, 2007, 11:42:08 AM
this shits bangin....nuttin wrong with the beat, it aint nuttin groundbreaking, but the shits more lyrical, some dark shit but its not too laid back to make niggaz sleep....

snoop should have put this on his album, cuz this is bangin, it is kinda controversial still, but overall this is nice, dre gave snoop a beat that sounded more 'dre' and they decide not to put it on the album, damn....

nice joint overall,

props

pz
Snoop didn't want it on his album because he didn't want to draw attention to possible criminal activity, given all of his legal problems.  I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with the music, because its bangin!

I thought "Imagine" and "Boss Life" were solid, good Dre beats.  "Round Here," on the other hand, is a real boring song, and why would you use something that has been sampled so famously?  Its almost like Dre did a buy 2 beats, get "Round Here" for free type of thing.  That's the weakest track on TBCT IMO, besides The Westurn Union and Warzone tracks.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: The Predator on April 15, 2007, 11:44:21 AM
Kam on the warpath

''Tookie we gonna put arnold in the hot seat,
hows that nazi gonna deny you,
fuck police chief bratton,
hes the reason blacks are feuding with the latins...''









Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 15, 2007, 11:45:18 AM
this shits bangin....nuttin wrong with the beat, it aint nuttin groundbreaking, but the shits more lyrical, some dark shit but its not too laid back to make niggaz sleep....

snoop should have put this on his album, cuz this is bangin, it is kinda controversial still, but overall this is nice, dre gave snoop a beat that sounded more 'dre' and they decide not to put it on the album, damn....

nice joint overall,

props

pz
Snoop didn't want it on his album because he didn't want to draw attention to possible criminal activity, given all of his legal problems.  I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with the music, because its bangin!

I thought "Imagine" and "Boss Life" were solid, good Dre beats.  "Round Here," on the other hand, is a real boring song, and why would you use something that has been sampled so famously?  Its almost like Dre did a buy 2 beats, get "Round Here" for free type of thing.  That's the weakest track on TBCT IMO, besides The Westurn Union and Warzone tracks.

i really like the piano on this Kam song, the drums are not as tight to me, but it works still. good strings.

anyway, the key to round here is the vocal cooing that goes along with the main chord progression, it comes and goes throughout the song when the song builds tension...once you hear that melody happening, the song never lacks again. at least that was my impression.

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Meho on April 15, 2007, 12:31:02 PM
^^^nah homie while i agree with parts of what you saying, its not always like that, often dre will give niggaz a few beats and then tell them to choose one, but when dre is in studio with big cats, he'll often work on a beat too....and about the outta control remix(which was dope but nuttin amazing, kinda the set off this weaker new sound imo)....dre and 50 made that joint originally for the massacre but 50 decided not to put it on the album thinking it aint good enough...then when he was working on the ost, 50 was going through his computer to check some of his shit he already got and was "buggin" why he didnt choose that joint to make the album...i remember reading it...anyway i think theres def a thing about which beat an artist will choose but dre will only have so many options to give a nigga, if something truly amazing was there, best believe snoop would have chosen it, nobody know dres sound better than snoop....but also dre needs energy and inspiration when making beats, something he gets when he works with new cats more often...and right now he sound is not inspired at all, this aint about people who are choosing his beats, its about dre not having the fire right now...dre at his peak would give you options and everyone of them would be fire....right now his either saving his best shit for himself or we have yet to hear it...i have faith in doc dre....

this joint here is nice still

pz

I think right its the same thing as it was in 99. Dre is dropping some leftovers (sadly still better than 99% of production out), of course with some exceptions. And while Snoop, Nas, Jay-Z, Buck got those leftovers lets say "unfinished beats", Im predicting that 50, D12 and Stat Quo will have those better beats lets say "very close to Detox sound, beats that didnt make the cut."

Inspiration is also an interesting point, its obvious that Bishop Lamont is the first guy after Snoop and Eminem thats giving Dre that feeling back, I still think that if it wasnt for him Detox would never drop.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Matty on April 15, 2007, 12:47:43 PM
round here is deep guys the bass is a really earth shaker! you need a stupidly loud system but it knocks.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 15, 2007, 05:25:22 PM
^^^nah homie while i agree with parts of what you saying, its not always like that, often dre will give niggaz a few beats and then tell them to choose one, but when dre is in studio with big cats, he'll often work on a beat too....and about the outta control remix(which was dope but nuttin amazing, kinda the set off this weaker new sound imo)....dre and 50 made that joint originally for the massacre but 50 decided not to put it on the album thinking it aint good enough...then when he was working on the ost, 50 was going through his computer to check some of his shit he already got and was "buggin" why he didnt choose that joint to make the album...i remember reading it...anyway i think theres def a thing about which beat an artist will choose but dre will only have so many options to give a nigga, if something truly amazing was there, best believe snoop would have chosen it, nobody know dres sound better than snoop....but also dre needs energy and inspiration when making beats, something he gets when he works with new cats more often...and right now he sound is not inspired at all, this aint about people who are choosing his beats, its about dre not having the fire right now...dre at his peak would give you options and everyone of them would be fire....right now his either saving his best shit for himself or we have yet to hear it...i have faith in doc dre....

this joint here is nice still

pz

I think right its the same thing as it was in 99. Dre is dropping some leftovers (sadly still better than 99% of production out), of course with some exceptions. And while Snoop, Nas, Jay-Z, Buck got those leftovers lets say "unfinished beats", Im predicting that 50, D12 and Stat Quo will have those better beats lets say "very close to Detox sound, beats that didnt make the cut."

Inspiration is also an interesting point, its obvious that Bishop Lamont is the first guy after Snoop and Eminem thats giving Dre that feeling back, I still think that if it wasnt for him Detox would never drop.

why do you think its obvious that bishop is the first cat since em and snoop that is giving dre some real inspiration? because he will be on detox? im just curious as to what you mean by that because maybe you have been following bishop closer than me so you might know some shit i do not...

about that also, i think the last time dre got inspiration in the studio was during GRODT and DOCUMENTARY....grodt was the time apparently when 50 was mo hungry than a homeless nigga from what i hear, the energy was supposed to be crazy and then game gave that same vibe to dre during documentary making when game was gettin buzz, dre was in compton with nigga, they were cooking up some westcoast heat...but both those niggaz got attitude problems which kinda messed with dres plans....

hopefully we see some heat from him soon, cuz i aint really heard a banger from dre in a minute....and he has not released a real hit single since outta control remix....though the missy/busta joint would have blown up....even if it was generic, it would have smashed clubs

pz
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: ThatSICCNESS on April 15, 2007, 11:10:21 PM
 8) great dark beat
Im diggin the strings and piano.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 16, 2007, 12:04:50 AM
I think Dre was inspired by Hittman in that same way, and half of 2001 is the proof. Plus I really love Hittmanic verses.

anyway, the mystery revealed.

we were all like 'how is a song called 'murder these murderers' too controversial when '10 lil crips' is ok?' but it's because the political attack/tookie stuff. is Kam crip affiliated?

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: dclee on April 16, 2007, 12:07:31 AM
I think Dre was inspired by Hittman in that same way, and half of 2001 is the proof. Plus I really love Hittmanic verses.

anyway, the mystery revealed.

we were all like 'how is a song called 'murder these murderers' too controversial when '10 lil crips' is ok?' but it's because the political attack/tookie stuff. is Kam crip affiliated?

-T

Yeah KAM is a crip. Not sure what set he's from, but yeah. In fact now that I think about it, not sure where he's from? Watts?

and yeah i'm not surprised that they thought the song was too controversial. especially in these times.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: XaNdEr on April 16, 2007, 12:23:23 AM
Watts Up
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Al Bundy on April 16, 2007, 12:41:41 AM
I think Dre was inspired by Hittman in that same way, and half of 2001 is the proof. Plus I really love Hittmanic verses.

anyway, the mystery revealed.

we were all like 'how is a song called 'murder these murderers' too controversial when '10 lil crips' is ok?' but it's because the political attack/tookie stuff. is Kam crip affiliated?

-T

Yeah KAM is a crip. Not sure what set he's from, but yeah. In fact now that I think about it, not sure where he's from? Watts?

and yeah i'm not surprised that they thought the song was too controversial. especially in these times.


I don't think he's part of any set. If you listen to his music, I really doubt he'd be into the gangbangin shit.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Bones01 on April 16, 2007, 12:45:32 AM
I think Dre was inspired by Hittman in that same way, and half of 2001 is the proof. Plus I really love Hittmanic verses.

anyway, the mystery revealed.

we were all like 'how is a song called 'murder these murderers' too controversial when '10 lil crips' is ok?' but it's because the political attack/tookie stuff. is Kam crip affiliated?

-T
yeah but what's gonna happen? Snoop's whole life is filled with controversy, from being on trail for murder to him having the image of a Gangsta/Thug. Dude is ban from the UK. Whats the song gonna do, tarnish his reputation more?
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Meho on April 16, 2007, 12:55:09 AM
^^^nah homie while i agree with parts of what you saying, its not always like that, often dre will give niggaz a few beats and then tell them to choose one, but when dre is in studio with big cats, he'll often work on a beat too....and about the outta control remix(which was dope but nuttin amazing, kinda the set off this weaker new sound imo)....dre and 50 made that joint originally for the massacre but 50 decided not to put it on the album thinking it aint good enough...then when he was working on the ost, 50 was going through his computer to check some of his shit he already got and was "buggin" why he didnt choose that joint to make the album...i remember reading it...anyway i think theres def a thing about which beat an artist will choose but dre will only have so many options to give a nigga, if something truly amazing was there, best believe snoop would have chosen it, nobody know dres sound better than snoop....but also dre needs energy and inspiration when making beats, something he gets when he works with new cats more often...and right now he sound is not inspired at all, this aint about people who are choosing his beats, its about dre not having the fire right now...dre at his peak would give you options and everyone of them would be fire....right now his either saving his best shit for himself or we have yet to hear it...i have faith in doc dre....

this joint here is nice still

pz

I think right its the same thing as it was in 99. Dre is dropping some leftovers (sadly still better than 99% of production out), of course with some exceptions. And while Snoop, Nas, Jay-Z, Buck got those leftovers lets say "unfinished beats", Im predicting that 50, D12 and Stat Quo will have those better beats lets say "very close to Detox sound, beats that didnt make the cut."

Inspiration is also an interesting point, its obvious that Bishop Lamont is the first guy after Snoop and Eminem thats giving Dre that feeling back, I still think that if it wasnt for him Detox would never drop.

why do you think its obvious that bishop is the first cat since em and snoop that is giving dre some real inspiration? because he will be on detox? im just curious as to what you mean by that because maybe you have been following bishop closer than me so you might know some shit i do not...

about that also, i think the last time dre got inspiration in the studio was during GRODT and DOCUMENTARY....grodt was the time apparently when 50 was mo hungry than a homeless nigga from what i hear, the energy was supposed to be crazy and then game gave that same vibe to dre during documentary making when game was gettin buzz, dre was in compton with nigga, they were cooking up some westcoast heat...but both those niggaz got attitude problems which kinda messed with dres plans....

hopefully we see some heat from him soon, cuz i aint really heard a banger from dre in a minute....and he has not released a real hit single since outta control remix....though the missy/busta joint would have blown up....even if it was generic, it would have smashed clubs

pz

Dunno, just by listening to Bishops interviews, he even got Dre to go to youtube lol, plus Rebel told it several times and hes legit. Ever since he was singed I have a feeling Dre got his hunger back.

Yeah 50, Game, Busta and Stat are close too but none of them are his true proteges imo, just artists signed to the label.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Sriram619 on April 16, 2007, 01:48:43 AM
Nah man i think Game was one of dres best protoges he reps compton dres hometown and he has that hard edge like ice cube and he represents the whole west coast. Game gave dre that energy to bring the west back and dres sound was hot when they were making the documentary even that track with mary j blige was a sick new piano sound he brought to the table all the chords and strings and shit. But i think bishop and dre will have some good shit coming up though.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Meho on April 16, 2007, 03:00:05 AM
I disagree, even if you look at the quality of the beats: Westside Story was pretty much an old mix of Still D.R.E. and In Da Club, Higher was like lil different version of Outta Control, Hpw We Do was great, Start From Scratch was dope but again sounded like 2001 leftover and that Mary track was garbage imo. Boring beat.

And lets not forget that after 3 years of Game being on Aftermath, Dre basically gave him to 50 to promote and market him.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: k1000 on April 16, 2007, 03:09:21 AM
8) great dark beat
Im diggin the strings and piano.

Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: toebee on April 16, 2007, 05:35:51 AM
beat is average, getting kind of boring by the time
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: MR_JV on April 16, 2007, 09:26:35 AM
both them tracks are cool  8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 16, 2007, 09:42:01 AM
I thought Dre's stuff on Documentary was great, and I like this Kam song.  But I really am a sucker for piano.

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: CRAFTY on April 16, 2007, 10:29:42 AM
Can someone rip that "Imagine" song ft. Kam in good quality? Thx in advance!
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 16, 2007, 12:55:40 PM
i think its obvious the last time dre put out fire was on documentary, if 50 and game were still straaight dre would be a extremely happy man....start from scratch was some detox shit, lol@2001 leftover....shits on anybeat his made since
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: d-nice on April 16, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
round here is deep guys the bass is a really earth shaker! you need a stupidly loud system but it knocks.

Yes I and my eardrums can vouch that statement  ;D Probably the hardest hitting track on BCT in a system. It's got that sneaky bass.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: MediumL on April 16, 2007, 01:13:36 PM
This is hot. Dunno why everyone always tries find faults...
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 16, 2007, 03:16:41 PM
This is hot. Dunno why everyone always tries find faults...

+1

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 16, 2007, 03:38:55 PM
This song is dope.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 16, 2007, 03:42:15 PM
This song is dope.

LOL Nima, you GOTTA bring this up next time you talk to snoop and video that shit. it'll be priceless.

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: The Great Elephant on April 16, 2007, 03:48:58 PM
can someone reup murder dem murderers, sendspace times out when i try to download it.  thanks.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: The Great Elephant on April 16, 2007, 03:52:14 PM
benefits is a dope song too, kam can't be touched right now
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: woof on April 16, 2007, 03:57:06 PM
can someone reup murder dem murderers, sendspace times out when i try to download it.  thanks.
Better rip by me : http://urlhaufp9sae71fvlujl.usercash.com  8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: The Great Elephant on April 16, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
^didn't see that, props
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: stephen619 on April 16, 2007, 05:21:27 PM
That song with Ty is DOPE!!!
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Blu Lacez on April 16, 2007, 05:50:38 PM
This is hot. Dunno why everyone always tries find faults...

+1

-T

+1

Blu
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: IzUwitIt on April 17, 2007, 11:32:05 AM
benefits is a dope song too, kam can't be touched right now

thats old, from Kamnesia, was a single too with a video if i remember right

gotta say that yea, 'Murder Dem Murderers' has grown on me a whole lot since i first heard it the other day. The beat fits perfectly, cant help but think it would be even better with Snoop on it too. Showin U Off is crazy too, thats gettin serious spins in the car right now. Got the feeling that this new record The Self/Self & Kind or woteva its gonna be called will be str8 fire from front2back, or so im hoping. Kam rarely disappoints me
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: XaNdEr on April 17, 2007, 12:00:45 PM
i been listening to his old records lately cuz off this song, they all are fire, he shud make his next cd & mixtape as good as his old records.

I personally like Made In America the most, fuckin G-Funk beats with Warren G, Battlecat, DJ Quik, E-A-Ski etc. on the boards. Man that album is a G-Funk classic, i love his flow on these older songs as well.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 17, 2007, 05:38:57 PM
man, this song is so good. kam rips shit up, his message is great. if lamont would have heard this on TBCT he would have said better things about it. but i'm glad it wasn't on TBCT, it wouldn't have fit musically.

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: dclee on April 17, 2007, 05:50:57 PM
what exactly did Lamont say about TBCT?
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Bones01 on April 17, 2007, 05:59:27 PM
Basically said it was shit
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: XaNdEr on April 17, 2007, 11:09:14 PM
lol i bet snoop is all upset now


ah well snoop talked shit about eminem so i think he got what was comin to him  :D
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 18, 2007, 10:06:22 AM


the lineage of the snoop/aftermath shit talking:

-Snoop in 05, I believe in an interview joked about how Bishop Lamont and everyone else on AM are not dropping anything
-Lamont commented on TBCT saying it was cool, he bought it, but he felt Snoop should have spoken more intelligently and he proceeded to say he (he did alot of interning for daz, snoop, warren, hanging around the studio,learning from west coast OGs all before the Dre deal while he was just an upncomer on the mixtape scene) used to see Snoop recording intelligent statements with glasses on and Langston Hughes in his lap and said that he wanted to hear some shit like that.

so he wasn't saying it was shit so much as he was saying he felt snoop could bring more depth lyrically, which is true.

then snoop after that talked shit about eminem in the round here discussion in one of the 5 parts to Nima's latest snoop interview iirc.


furthermore, i doubt snoop is upset now if he ain't yet. are there any bishop/snoop songs yet? or any dpg/bishop collabs yet?

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Eddie G. on April 18, 2007, 12:10:11 PM
^^I don't think he was talking shit about Eminem, what he said was "I don't listen to Eminem records, I'm a gangsta."  He was just trying to set his "Round Here" track aside from Eminem's "Stan."
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Brutus on April 18, 2007, 12:33:39 PM
and his third single was going to be round here but then Nima told him that it samples Stan and snoop choose boss life  ;D
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 18, 2007, 12:37:16 PM
^^I don't think he was talking shit about Eminem, what he said was "I don't listen to Eminem records, I'm a gangsta."  He was just trying to set his "Round Here" track aside from Eminem's "Stan."


I don't listen to Eminem, I'm a gangsta

later imitates Eminem "Stan, my biggest fan write me a letter"

etc. Snoop was hating.

there have been unconfirmed rumors that at concerts snoop's said (recently) "this ain't that pill poppin eminem shit..." or some such comments.

It just pisses me off, cause the one song they did together was dope and I'd like to see more, and shit like this makes it seem less likely for the near future.

anyway, i agree that Nima's interview may have influenced him to choose Boss life

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: westside159 on April 18, 2007, 03:40:32 PM
DR.DRE NEED TO PRODUCE A MC EIHT TRACC , NOW THAT WOULD BE THE DOPEST SHIT EVER IN WESTCOAST HIP HOP HISTORY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 8) 8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: CRAFTY on April 19, 2007, 11:49:24 AM
Can someone rip that "Imagine" song ft. Kam in good quality? Thx in advance!

Anyone? :(
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: XaNdEr on April 19, 2007, 11:18:18 PM
DR.DRE NEED TO PRODUCE A MC EIHT TRACC , NOW THAT WOULD BE THE DOPEST SHIT EVER IN WESTCOAST HIP HOP HISTORY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 8) 8)

Lol, you must be high. Keep smokin'  8)
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: k1000 on April 20, 2007, 05:20:28 AM
if that track had made the cut on TBCT, it would have been the best Dre track amongst the 4. Don't you agree ?
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on April 20, 2007, 11:46:02 AM
On a side note, why do people (such as, apparently, Snoop) think you are more intelligent once you wear glasses?

As my dad says: 'God, another negro wearing glasses to look semi-intellectual'.

Cargo-cult anyone?

Now, let none of this discourage people from discussing this track or Bishop Lamont (who I still think has a very lame name).
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Tanjential on April 20, 2007, 11:49:25 AM
On a side note, why do people (such as, apparently, Snoop) think you are more intelligent once you wear glasses?

As my dad says: 'God, another negro wearing glasses to look semi-intellectual'.

Cargo-cult anyone?

Now, let none of this discourage people from discussing this track or Bishop Lamont (who I still think has a very lame name).

twas the fact that he was using the reading glasses to read langston hughes that made him seem more intelligent/in a mindstate that entailed more depth in his art

-T
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Real American on May 13, 2007, 07:55:04 AM
This song offends me as a hardcore Republican.
Title: Re: KAM - MURDER DEM MURDERERS (PROD. DR. DRE) AUDIO
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on May 13, 2007, 08:08:20 AM
Basically said it was shit

Since when does Lamont has anything to say? It's just his opinion of that album. If you like it, buy it and bump it and if not, then let it be. Is it a law when Bishop Lamont says this album is wack, that it's really wack? Dude doesn't even have an album out... So what