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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: big mat on June 04, 2007, 04:42:56 PM
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i just bought the low end theory and like many great albums you can't catch the greatness of it by just dl it, you need to buy it and have the original copy in your hand with the best quality and the credits and all that. Most people say that midnight maurauders is their other classic album i'd like to know what yall think of these 2 albums and which one most people think is the best one.
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to me they both classics but the low end theory is the best one imo.
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I love them both, and they are both classics to me. I think Midnight Marauders is a bit more consistent overall, but the Low End Theory's top 5 songs are better than MM's top 5 songs, if you catch what I'm saying. Absolutely def w/o a doubt cop Peoples Instinctive Travels... as well. It's another personal classic for me.
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sure, im a buy them all, anyway there's nothing good coming out nowadays so i aint gonna spend money on 50 cent or mike jones
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Fuckin' classic stuff man.I feel what Jrome's saying tho.For me, Midnight Marauders is slightly better as an overall package, but Low eND tHEORY HAS more or better stand out songs.Situation's almost the same as Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth's first two LP's
And I feel you on what you said about having the album in your hands to feel its true greatness.I ain't got many albums, but when I bump those that I have on the system, look at the actual booklet, feeling is much better that bumping it on the PC
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The Low End Theory has been my second favorite hip-hop album for a while now, after Illmatic.
In fact, I'm kinda surprised to see people calling Midnight Marauders more consistant, with The Low End Theory having the best "standout" tracks. To me, Midnight Marauders is anything but consistant: it's a really good album, but tracks like "8 Million Stories" and "Midnight" don't nearly move me as much as "We Can Get Down" or "Oh My God". The Low End Theory on the other hand was a great solid piece from front to back - I wouldn't be able to point out one standout track out of the 13 building up to the ultimate climax they call "Scenario".
Wow. Thanks for bringing this up - I need to bump the shit out of these albums again!
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midnight marauders. i think they stepped their game up for it. plus i prefer the darker tone of the album. it's one of my all time favorite albums.
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Midnight Maurauders, personally I actually liked there first album people's instinctive travels and the paths of rhythm better then the low end theory. all 3 are classics tho
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Not many albums I give perfect rating to but both of these get one from me. I really can't pick which one I prefer, two masterpieces.
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Both are classic LP's, but I gotta go with MM. That album still sounds so good today quality wise. Definitely one of my top five albums of all time.
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thanks to all, i really need to get me a copy of every album they did
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The Low End Theory has been my second favorite hip-hop album for a while now, after Illmatic.
In fact, I'm kinda surprised to see people calling Midnight Marauders more consistant, with The Low End Theory having the best "standout" tracks. To me, Midnight Marauders is anything but consistant: it's a really good album, but tracks like "8 Million Stories" and "Midnight" don't nearly move me as much as "We Can Get Down" or "Oh My God". The Low End Theory on the other hand was a great solid piece from front to back - I wouldn't be able to point out one standout track out of the 13 building up to the ultimate climax they call "Scenario".
Wow. Thanks for bringing this up - I need to bump the shit out of these albums again!
I believe that there are a couple joints of LET that are worse than any joint on MM. Those joints being "Sky Pager" and "What?". For me at least, beyond hearing those joints a few times initially, I tend to skip them. That's what hurts the album overall. But like I said, LET's top 5 joints are better than MM's best joints. But MM I can consistently bump w/o tryin to skip, and LET leads me to skip sometimes.
But my all means, I absolutely love both albums, they are both classics to me and largely looked at as classics overall. ATCQ is one of those incredible Hip Hop groups that we were lucky to hear and I'll never get tired of those albums.
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I believe that there are a couple joints of LET that are worse than any joint on MM. Those joints being "Sky Pager" and "What?". For me at least, beyond hearing those joints a few times initially, I tend to skip them. That's what hurts the album overall. But like I said, LET's top 5 joints are better than MM's best joints. But MM I can consistently bump w/o tryin to skip, and LET leads me to skip sometimes.
It's funny you mention "Sky Pager" and "What?" as being the weaker joints of TLET, while I personally thought it was exactly those tunes that made the climax in Scenario possible. In fact, I strongly believe the album even got its title solely because of the overall themes of songs like "Butter", "The Infamous Date Rape", "Sky Pager" and "What?". To me, they turned the album into exactly what made it so great to begin with!
+1 however :)
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I fuckin' love Skypager.Really great track, but I can agree with What being skippable at times.Also, Peoples Extinctive... and Beats, Rhymes and Life are imo, amazing albums as well.That makes 4 great albums in a row, and that's pretty hard to compete with in Hip-Hop
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Midnight Marauders is better
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Midnight Marauders is better
Wrong. You like it better.
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Midnight Marauders is better
Wrong. You like it better.
yeah...the low end theory is more of a classic though
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The Low End Theory = ground breaking and phenomenal
Midnight Marauders = anyone that knows music can't argue this is a classic
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I love them both, and they are both classics to me. I think Midnight Marauders is a bit more consistent overall, but the Low End Theory's top 5 songs are better than MM's top 5 songs, if you catch what I'm saying. Absolutely def w/o a doubt cop Peoples Instinctive Travels... as well. It's another personal classic for me.
I completely agree with that...mm has every song at a very high level but then low end theory has songs like show business, what?, and scenario which are all top hip hop songs ever.
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I believe that there are a couple joints of LET that are worse than any joint on MM. Those joints being "Sky Pager" and "What?". For me at least, beyond hearing those joints a few times initially, I tend to skip them. That's what hurts the album overall. But like I said, LET's top 5 joints are better than MM's best joints. But MM I can consistently bump w/o tryin to skip, and LET leads me to skip sometimes.
It's funny you mention "Sky Pager" and "What?" as being the weaker joints of TLET, while I personally thought it was exactly those tunes that made the climax in Scenario possible. In fact, I strongly believe the album even got its title solely because of the overall themes of songs like "Butter", "The Infamous Date Rape", "Sky Pager" and "What?". To me, they turned the album into exactly what made it so great to begin with!
+1 however :)
When the opening notes on Scenario drop after "What?", you just have that feeling that something is about to pop off. It is the ultimate crescendo. And it really does complete the album very well, finishing out on those 2 songs. But "What?" as a solitary song has little replay value to me. Not wack by any means, but it's just such a song that never really suits any sort of mood, and loses its appeal after only a few listens in my opinion.
But like you said, in reference to the album as a whole, it is very complementary. It takes you to the lowest spot, and then arguably to the highest w/ Scenario. I'll always appreciate it, but never single it out to bump on its own.
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I believe that there are a couple joints of LET that are worse than any joint on MM. Those joints being "Sky Pager" and "What?". For me at least, beyond hearing those joints a few times initially, I tend to skip them. That's what hurts the album overall. But like I said, LET's top 5 joints are better than MM's best joints. But MM I can consistently bump w/o tryin to skip, and LET leads me to skip sometimes.
It's funny you mention "Sky Pager" and "What?" as being the weaker joints of TLET, while I personally thought it was exactly those tunes that made the climax in Scenario possible. In fact, I strongly believe the album even got its title solely because of the overall themes of songs like "Butter", "The Infamous Date Rape", "Sky Pager" and "What?". To me, they turned the album into exactly what made it so great to begin with!
+1 however :)
When the opening notes on Scenario drop after "What?", you just have that feeling that something is about to pop off. It is the ultimate crescendo. And it really does complete the album very well, finishing out on those 2 songs. But "What?" as a solitary song has little replay value to me. Not wack by any means, but it's just such a song that never really suits any sort of mood, and loses its appeal after only a few listens in my opinion.
But like you said, in reference to the album as a whole, it is very complementary. It takes you to the lowest spot, and then arguably to the highest w/ Scenario. I'll always appreciate it, but never single it out to bump on its own.
Yeah, maybe that's what makes the difference: I rarely bump tracks on their own, and because it fits in so well with the rest of the album, What? is nothing but a great part of an even greater album to me. I wonder what you mean by What? taking the album to the lowest spot though - it wasn't that low, was it?
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People's instinctive travels and the paths of rhythm is my favourite Quest album. Out of these two I might have to go with midnight marauders
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Midnight Marauders is better
Wrong. You like it better.
The Low End Theory has been my second favorite hip-hop album for a while now, after Illmatic.
In fact, I'm kinda surprised to see people calling Midnight Marauders more consistant, with The Low End Theory having the best "standout" tracks. To me, Midnight Marauders is anything but consistant: it's a really good album, but tracks like "8 Million Stories" and "Midnight" don't nearly move me as much as "We Can Get Down" or "Oh My God". The Low End Theory on the other hand was a great solid piece from front to back - I wouldn't be able to point out one standout track out of the 13 building up to the ultimate climax they call "Scenario".
Wow. Thanks for bringing this up - I need to bump the shit out of these albums again!
::) Nerd.
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::) Nerd.
I'm really sorry for having an opinion of my own. Something you should try for once.
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::) Nerd.
I'm really sorry for having an opinion of my own. Something you should try for once.
Actually, you blame someone for something you do yourself. You actually have the nerve of going against someone who did the same as you, so i don't see what right you have to talk back to me. :laugh:
And i don't see how i don't have an own opinion. I was basically the first one to go against you, with your arrogant attitude like you're Mister-I-Know-It-All. You're not better then anyone else on this forum, wake up out your dreamworld fool. Plus since everyone here doesn't speak on your attitude and i do, how am i not having an own opinion?
I think when i'm one of the few who actually stand up then i have an own opinion don't you think. Now go ahead and break down my post in tiny little pieces so my words don't make sense anymore and have lost all their meaning. But these words still stay here though, no matter what you do to them: Fuck You.
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::) Nerd.
I'm really sorry for having an opinion of my own. Something you should try for once.
Actually, you blame someone for something you do yourself. You actually have the nerve of going against someone who did the same as you, so i don't see what right you have to talk back to me. :laugh:
And i don't see how i don't have an own opinion. I was basically the first one to go against you, with your arrogant attitude like you're Mister-I-Know-It-All. You're not better then anyone else on this forum, wake up out your dreamworld fool. Plus since everyone here doesn't speak on your attitude and i do, how am i not having an own opinion?
I think when i'm one of the few who actually stand up then i have an own opinion don't you think. Now go ahead and break down my post in tiny little pieces so my words don't make sense anymore and have lost all their meaning. But these words still stay here though, no matter what you do to them: Fuck You.
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Thing is, you blame me for claiming to be a "Mister-I-Know-It-All", while that's EXACTLY what YOU are doing. Check my post history and come to find out how incredibly often I give people credit for having opinions that differ from mine. Check my post history and come to find out how often I ASK people for reasoning, instead of simply discrediting their words. That's something YOU do, not me.
I'm actually open for debate, and I'll give proper respect to anyone who's open to it as well, while you? You judge and condemn. That's plain ignorance, you should know it homeboy. The only reason you're the only one "standing up" against me, is because you're the only one who considers my ways troubling.
And as for the whole "secretly dissing stuff"... When you "addressed" it last night you were at -142, and now that I've come back online I see you're at -148. Point proven, I'd say.
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Damn, never thought you was following and monitoring my karma that much....jeez what's next? Get the fuck off my dick little bitch.
You think you are so important that it's an honor to be respected by you and get the pat on the back from you. Fuck that shit. I never claiming to know everything, i don't. Matter of fact i'm doing almost nothing for school and today failed another exam, and i don't consider that smart or anything. It's more like stupid. I don't think i know it all at all, you seeing ghosts. :)
Stop following me and my karma or i report you to Seer for stalking.
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Damn, never thought you was following and monitoring my karma that much....jeez what's next? Get the fuck off my dick little bitch.
You accused me of touching your karma. I looked at it the other day and thought it wasn't necessary for me to touch it. You keep making a fuss about it, keep making those accusations towards me, and as I look again I see your karma has dropped a shit load again. Oh sure, that's me and my 5 accounts each with over 500 posts getting ready to drop a diss on you every time I get the chance. I should, but the fact is I don't care enough. Get a grip man... How is it bad for me to simply notice something you actually addressed me for in the first place?
You think you are so important that it's an honor to be respected by you and get the pat on the back from you. Fuck that shit. I never claiming to know everything, i don't.
You don't know everything, but you are capable of looking inside my mind. That's wonderful, you're gifted.
And once again, my point still stands: I really don't understand why you're so hateful towards me, or why you even had to jump into this discussion offending me in the first place. Now who's the so-called nutrider?
Seriously though, I come in here just for the sake of discussion. If you don't like my reasons for coming here, why do you care so much? I don't condemn anyone for their opinion, and if you really were open for debate, you would have known this. Since you're not, the question is, why are you here? Just to talk shit and act funny? (gotta give you that -- you're an entertaining poster)
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I'm just havin fun mayne, and getting pussies like you worked up is fun to me.
I post good stuff in other sections, but since this is the place where you are, and i don't feel like being replied to by you, i don't post much of value in this section. If i post something you break it down about what is not "correct" blablablabla haha fuck outta here homie, you lost.
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I post good stuff in other sections, but since this is the place where you are, and i don't feel like being replied to by you, i don't post much of value in this section. If i post something you break it down about what is not "correct" blablablabla haha fuck outta here homie, you lost.
That's the problem with a dumb fool like yourself: I don't say something's not "correct", that's just how your ignorant ass interprets these things. All I'm constantly doing, is asking for reason. If I don't see the logic behind certain statements, I'll ask for it. Just your luck that you don't see the difference between asking and condemning. Of course you'll feel like "I lost". I won't blame you at all - just enjoy your virtuous state.
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You think you are so important that it's an honor to be respected by you and get the pat on the back from you. Fuck that shit. I never claiming to know everything, i don't.
You don't know everything, but you are capable of looking inside my mind. That's wonderful, you're gifted.
And once again, my point still stands: I really don't understand why you're so hateful towards me, or why you even had to jump into this discussion offending me in the first place. Now who's the so-called nutrider?
Seriously though, I come in here just for the sake of discussion. If you don't like my reasons for coming here, why do you care so much? I don't condemn anyone for their opinion, and if you really were open for debate, you would have known this.
Btw, you have yet to reply to all of that. Good luck. Until then, you lost "homie".
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^ What is interprets?? ???
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^ What is interprets?? ???
Interpreteren, opvatten
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You're always asking for reason like you say. That means you always question someone's motives or a person in general. So i don't see how i am wrong, you just admitted you always doubt about the credibility of whatever when it is not "logical" so you ask for reasons and break down posts in pieces where notihng of the original post makes sense anymore.
I personally don't care much about you and your Mr.-Know-It-All attitude, just find it very irritating that you're active on these forums, cause you're a pain in the ass (no homo) for other people with your attitude.
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I didn't want to comment but I'm going to. 11'z, there's no point in attempting to talk to this kid. I've tried to enlighten him to some things, but he always got defensive and started calling me names. That's when I realized he was about 15 years old and simply doesn't have any clue what the fuck he's talking about. Just leave him alone, he'll eventually see what a fucking retard he is.
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
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I didn't want to comment but I'm going to. 11'z, there's no point in attempting to talk to this kid. I've tried to enlighten him to some things, but he always got defensive and started calling me names. That's when I realized he was about 15 years old and simply doesn't have any clue what the fuck he's talking about. Just leave him alone, he'll eventually see what a fucking retard he is.
You're probably right, but I don't like to ignore people when they're addressing me. I'm perhaps too easily tempted..
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Yes, that makes it fun to respond to you in a certain way, i know you gonna respond with this wise-styl talk, lol. :D
Here have a prop and stop crying. 8)
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
No, its just annoying when somebody makes a good thread with decent discussion and some fuck ass comes in and ruins it.
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MM.. Electric Relaxation is the shit 8)
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
No, its just annoying when somebody makes a good thread with decent discussion and some fuck ass comes in and ruins it.
Good thread is your opinion, imo ATCQ sucks. :-\
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
No, its just annoying when somebody makes a good thread with decent discussion and some fuck ass comes in and ruins it.
Good thread is your opinion, imo ATCQ sucks. :-\
So because you don't like the group, you think it's your duty to ruin the discussion for those who are actually aware of what ATCQ means for hip-hop?
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
No, its just annoying when somebody makes a good thread with decent discussion and some fuck ass comes in and ruins it.
Good thread is your opinion, imo ATCQ sucks. :-\
Whether you like the group or not is completely irrelevant to the quality of the thread you retard. Threads are made for discussion and debate - it's supposed to have unique viewpoints. Not everybody likes the same stuff.
You can hate ATCQ all you want, but you're ignorant about who they are and what their place is in Hip Hop. So you sound like a fool to those who have been listening to Hip Hop for any decent amount of time. I don't know one person that fully understand the fundamentals of Hip Hop that hate ATCQ. And if you're a true fan and not just some fad chasing teeny bop punk, you'll eventually come around to appreciating them.
Like I've told you before, listen to Hip Hop for about 10 more years and then we'll have these conversations. You have ZERO appreciation for Hip Hop at this point. And there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself. Everybody starts somewhere and I'm nowhere near knowing all there is to know. But there is something wrong with it when you talk out your ass about shit you know absolute dick about and then insult others who are about 100x more knowledgable than you. Slow your roll junior.
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
No, its just annoying when somebody makes a good thread with decent discussion and some fuck ass comes in and ruins it.
Good thread is your opinion, imo ATCQ sucks. :-\
Whether you like the group or not is completely irrelevant to the quality of the thread you retard. Threads are made for discussion and debate - it's supposed to have unique viewpoints. Not everybody likes the same stuff.
You can hate ATCQ all you want, but you're ignorant about who they are and what their place is in Hip Hop. So you sound like a fool to those who have been listening to Hip Hop for any decent amount of time. I don't know one person that fully understand the fundamentals of Hip Hop that hate ATCQ. And if you're a true fan and not just some fad chasing teeny bop punk, you'll eventually come around to appreciating them.
Like I've told you before, listen to Hip Hop for about 10 more years and then we'll have these conversations. You have ZERO appreciation for Hip Hop at this point. And there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself. Everybody starts somewhere and I'm nowhere near knowing all there is to know. But there is something wrong with it when you talk out your ass about shit you know absolute dick about and then insult others who are about 100x more knowledgable than you. Slow your roll junior.
Oh yeah what's next? Saying ATCQ is the most imprtant hiphop act of all time? Wake up fool, it's 2k7 and nobody checkin' for these dudes anymore, except the "real" hiphop fans, at least that's what they like to believe they are. But let me tell you, someone pointed out my avatar yesterday, but Slim Thug is as hiphop as A Tribe Called Quest, so is Nas, Kurupt, Outkast, Royce Da 5'9", The Neptunes, Busta Rhymes etc.
You treat them (ATCQ) like gods, and if someone don't like them they're not hiphop-fans. Lmao, 11z why don't you ask for another clarification cause to me it sounds like this isn't LOGICAL at all. Lmao.
You 2 are def the biggest (f/t)ools on this forum. 8)
+1 for makin' me laugh.
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Haha, Jrome, still mad from back in the days fool? :D
Man i love this internet ish, people get all upset about a messageboard. 8) 8) 8)
No, its just annoying when somebody makes a good thread with decent discussion and some fuck ass comes in and ruins it.
Good thread is your opinion, imo ATCQ sucks. :-\
Whether you like the group or not is completely irrelevant to the quality of the thread you retard. Threads are made for discussion and debate - it's supposed to have unique viewpoints. Not everybody likes the same stuff.
You can hate ATCQ all you want, but you're ignorant about who they are and what their place is in Hip Hop. So you sound like a fool to those who have been listening to Hip Hop for any decent amount of time. I don't know one person that fully understand the fundamentals of Hip Hop that hate ATCQ. And if you're a true fan and not just some fad chasing teeny bop punk, you'll eventually come around to appreciating them.
Like I've told you before, listen to Hip Hop for about 10 more years and then we'll have these conversations. You have ZERO appreciation for Hip Hop at this point. And there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself. Everybody starts somewhere and I'm nowhere near knowing all there is to know. But there is something wrong with it when you talk out your ass about shit you know absolute dick about and then insult others who are about 100x more knowledgable than you. Slow your roll junior.
Oh yeah what's next? Saying ATCQ is the most imprtant hiphop act of all time? Wake up fool, it's 2k7 and nobody checkin' for these dudes anymore, except the "real" hiphop fans, at least that's what they like to believe they are. But let me tell you, someone pointed out my avatar yesterday, but Slim Thug is as hiphop as A Tribe Called Quest, so is Nas, Kurupt, Outkast, Royce Da 5'9", The Neptunes, Busta Rhymes etc.
You treat them (ATCQ) like gods, and if someone don't like them they're not hiphop-fans. Lmao, 11z why don't you ask for another clarification cause to me it sounds like this isn't LOGICAL at all. Lmao.
You 2 are def the biggest (f/t)ools on this forum. 8)
+1 for makin' me laugh.
You're not even worth my knowledge homeboy. Keep doin what you do, I can't even get down on your level. Keep bumpin Hip Hop and some day you'll understand and realize what a fuckin clown you are. Until that day comes, you gets ZERO respect.
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I don't care if you respect me or not, i don't respect you either, just like that 11z dude.
Just quit talking that wise-guy-shit, both of you. If someone doesn't like ATCQ they still can like Hiphop. Hiphop is a form of music/art and contains many many groups/rappers/duos/producers.
Imo ATCQ sucks, and i can name countless other acts i rather listen to, but i think you're not yet on such a level where you can apprecaite all hiphop, and not just the "underground". ANyways i'm done talking with you both, you can kiss eachother and bang some ATCQ in the background, fuckin' homo's.
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I don't care if you respect me or not, i don't respect you either, just like that 11z dude.
Just quit talking that wise-guy-shit, both of you. If someone doesn't like ATCQ they still can like Hiphop. Hiphop is a form of music/art and contains many many groups/rappers/duos/producers.
Imo ATCQ sucks, and i can name countless other acts i rather listen to, but i think you're not yet on such a level where you can apprecaite all hiphop, and not just the "underground". ANyways i'm done talking with you both, you can kiss eachother and bang some ATCQ in the background, fuckin' homo's.
Strange. Many of the Euros on this board have a greater appreciation for real Hip Hop than lots of Americans. I guess you prove that stereotypes are always flawed.
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Let me tell you what makes The Low End Theory very special..... it was the emergence of Phife Dawg... Phife played the sidekick role on Peoples Instinctives although he showed promise on tracks like Can I Kick It. Still the show belonged to Q-Tip....
On Low End Theory, Phife stole the show and came out of the shadow of Tip. When I first bought that album, I couldn't believe that this was the same Phife from the first album.
Mauraders is excellent, but it lacked the surprise element of Low End ...
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I don't care if you respect me or not, i don't respect you either, just like that 11z dude.
Just quit talking that wise-guy-shit, both of you. If someone doesn't like ATCQ they still can like Hiphop. Hiphop is a form of music/art and contains many many groups/rappers/duos/producers.
Imo ATCQ sucks, and i can name countless other acts i rather listen to, but i think you're not yet on such a level where you can apprecaite all hiphop, and not just the "underground". ANyways i'm done talking with you both, you can kiss eachother and bang some ATCQ in the background, fuckin' homo's.
Strange. Many of the Euros on this board have a greater appreciation for real Hip Hop than lots of Americans. I guess you prove that stereotypes are always flawed.
Nah it just means you don't respect my opinion so why should i respect yours? Fuck outta here with real hiphop, everything is real hiphop from Chamillionaire to Bishop Lamont to Nas to DMX. Your opinion is just highly biased, for whatever reason.
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I don't care if you respect me or not, i don't respect you either, just like that 11z dude.
Just quit talking that wise-guy-shit, both of you. If someone doesn't like ATCQ they still can like Hiphop. Hiphop is a form of music/art and contains many many groups/rappers/duos/producers.
Imo ATCQ sucks, and i can name countless other acts i rather listen to, but i think you're not yet on such a level where you can apprecaite all hiphop, and not just the "underground". ANyways i'm done talking with you both, you can kiss eachother and bang some ATCQ in the background, fuckin' homo's.
Strange. Many of the Euros on this board have a greater appreciation for real Hip Hop than lots of Americans. I guess you prove that stereotypes are always flawed.
Nah it just means you don't respect my opinion so why should i respect yours? Fuck outta here with real hiphop, everything is real hiphop from Chamillionaire to Bishop Lamont to Nas to DMX. Your opinion is just highly biased, for whatever reason.
Kid, don't talk to me about real Hip Hop. I was bumpin groups like 2 Live Crew since before you could walk - but then again, I'm sure you'd say something like they are horrible and have no place in Hip Hop history either. I can and do respect Hip Hop from anywhere and any sub-genre as long as it's REAL. But again, this whole thread is way over your head. IF you're still listening to Hip Hop in 10 years, then we'll have this conversation.
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Actually i hope in 10 years you have died from a disease. :P