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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lunatic on June 24, 2007, 07:13:52 PM
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damn first that new T.I. track with jay says he goin at luda, and now this
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1563235/20070624/t_i_.jhtml
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Here we go again.
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Here we go again.
lol indeed
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Whats all this shit bout his track with jay z?
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Whats all this shit bout his track with jay z?
sounds like he goes at luda in it..and jay goes at weezy in it
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
yea man thats how T.I gets his publicity he has that air around him that Weezy doesn't possess. Kinda remniscent of Jay and Nas, how even though Nas was/is the better rapper, Jay gets the upperhand because he got the swag and the business skills 8)
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
yea man thats how T.I gets his publicity he has that air around him that Weezy doesn't possess. Kinda remniscent of Jay and Nas, how even though Nas was/is the better rapper, Jay gets the upperhand because he got the swag and the business skills 8)
swag and business skills are a BIG part of the game...hard to call yourself the best when you ain't got it..all of the notable artists of our time had both..at least the ones that are considered to be some of the greatest by the masses
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Luadcris ain't no weak mc himself. All you got to do is refer to his Stomp verse to see what he did the last time T.I. wanted to diss. I am tired of the subliminals, call out names and let them go at it like Jay and Nas.
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Luadcris ain't no weak mc himself. All you got to do is refer to his Stomp verse to see what he did the last time T.I. wanted to diss. I am tired of the subliminals, call out names and let them go at it like Jay and Nas.
yea luda did go at T.I. hard in that verse no question...funny thing is though it didn't really affect T.I. 1 bit
i think subliminals go out the window once you punch dude's manager in the face ;D
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Luadcris ain't no weak mc himself. All you got to do is refer to his Stomp verse to see what he did the last time T.I. wanted to diss. I am tired of the subliminals, call out names and let them go at it like Jay and Nas.
yea luda did go at T.I. hard in that verse no question...funny thing is though it didn't really affect T.I. 1 bit
i think subliminals go out the window once you punch dude's manager in the face ;D
It put T.I. on notice that Luda knew what he was doing. T.I. is nice on the mic, but Luda would slay him in a battle imo.
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Luadcris ain't no weak mc himself. All you got to do is refer to his Stomp verse to see what he did the last time T.I. wanted to diss. I am tired of the subliminals, call out names and let them go at it like Jay and Nas.
yea luda did go at T.I. hard in that verse no question...funny thing is though it didn't really affect T.I. 1 bit
i think subliminals go out the window once you punch dude's manager in the face ;D
It put T.I. on notice that Luda knew what he was doing. T.I. is nice on the mic, but Luda would slay him in a battle imo.
luda was def killer on that joint...T.I. could put up a fight imo though...check some of his lil flip disses, straight heat..we knew luda could spit already...i mean it didn't affect him in a way like for example how the ti/flip beef affected Flip :D
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Luadcris ain't no weak mc himself. All you got to do is refer to his Stomp verse to see what he did the last time T.I. wanted to diss. I am tired of the subliminals, call out names and let them go at it like Jay and Nas.
yea luda did go at T.I. hard in that verse no question...funny thing is though it didn't really affect T.I. 1 bit
i think subliminals go out the window once you punch dude's manager in the face ;D
It put T.I. on notice that Luda knew what he was doing. T.I. is nice on the mic, but Luda would slay him in a battle imo.
luda was def killer on that joint...T.I. could put up a fight imo though...check some of his lil flip disses, straight heat..we knew luda could spit already...i mean it didn't affect him in a way like for example how the ti/flip beef affected Flip :D
That diss was more of a "don't fuck with me" like Scarface said in the movie ;D. Flip to me was not lyrically inclined to hang with T.I.anyway, but it was cold blooded how T.I. did him on the disses.
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Luadcris ain't no weak mc himself. All you got to do is refer to his Stomp verse to see what he did the last time T.I. wanted to diss. I am tired of the subliminals, call out names and let them go at it like Jay and Nas.
yea luda did go at T.I. hard in that verse no question...funny thing is though it didn't really affect T.I. 1 bit
i think subliminals go out the window once you punch dude's manager in the face ;D
It put T.I. on notice that Luda knew what he was doing. T.I. is nice on the mic, but Luda would slay him in a battle imo.
luda was def killer on that joint...T.I. could put up a fight imo though...check some of his lil flip disses, straight heat..we knew luda could spit already...i mean it didn't affect him in a way like for example how the ti/flip beef affected Flip :D
That diss was more of a "don't fuck with me" like Scarface said in the movie ;D. Flip to me was not lyrically inclined to hang with T.I.anyway, but it was cold blooded how T.I. did him on the disses.
lol T.I. ended his career
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They made it sound like him and Luda was actually fighting
(http://i12.tinypic.com/66eokgn.jpg)
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They made it sound like him and Luda was actually fighting
(http://i12.tinypic.com/66eokgn.jpg)
can't till we get more from this...what started it especially..also heard that luda just watched the shit happen
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Ludacris >>> TI>>>>>>>>>>> Lil Wayne
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IMO Lil Flip is a far better mc/lyricist/freestyler than TI. Luda destroyed TI with the "please stay off the t.i.p of my dick" line, that is right up there with "you lil fuck i got money stacks bigger than you".....MOving on, LOL at Weezy not having swagger. I agree with "weezy f" Jay doesnt want it with Weezy, maybe, just maybe in his prime but not now. Wayne would embarass him. And on a similar note TI doesnt want it with Luda, he could not in any way shape or form, turn people against luda like he did Flip. I cant think of a single person who would say "fuck ludacris, i hate that guy, im ridin with TI"....Luda gets way 2 much respect 2 lose a beef 2 anyone but Nas, Scarface and maybe Snoop.
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People are way over rating lil wayne. He is a good rapper but he gets by coz of his attitude., lyrically he aint amazing.
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apparantly chaka approached T.I. and asked him if he had a problem....and T.I. responded by punching him in the face lol...then began choking him, and snitches is saying luda walked out the event when the fight started...then some other people jumped in, and that's when security broke it up
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This story just does not sound right.
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This story just does not sound right.
it's early...i'm sure will find out more details today
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luda and flip is way harder than ti. i need mine is way better than king and i brougt both at tha store. ti anin't in tha same category as luda on tha mic. ti is just acting like an emotional bitch cuz he anin't win tha grammy and luda did. jealous hating motherfucka. ti anin't do nothing to flip on tha mic people just sided with ti cuz he was what was/is in. im not taking nothing away from ti he get his money, he do his thing but i don't know how anybody will let his weak ass choke them and i hope luda get at him lyrically and on some street shit cuz to me he act like a fucking hoe
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luda and flip is way harder than ti. i need mine is way better than king and i brougt both at tha store. ti anin't in tha same category as luda on tha mic. ti is just acting like an emotional bitch cuz he anin't win tha grammy and luda did. jealous hating motherfucka. ti anin't do nothing to flip on tha mic people just sided with ti cuz he was what was/is in. im not taking nothing away from ti he get his money, he do his thing but i don't know how anybody will let his weak ass choke them and i hope luda get at him lyrically and on some street shit cuz to me he act like a fucking hoe
flip ain't harder than ti....ti fucked him up on multiple diss tracks
i doubt ti punched dude's manager because he didn't win an award...do u know how dumb that sounds?? lol
lol at u hoping luda get at em LYRICALLY, defanitely not on some street shit...luda ain't tough man...why he leave the room as his manager was gettin an ass whippin at the hands of tip? come on now, we both know luda won't get at ti physically :D
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don't believe no internet shit. flip is harder and ti is a hater anin't no way around tha shit. keep other men out yo mouth. im not from atlanta and i don't care bout no street cred. he anin't neva did no gangsta shit to me. everything he so called did to flip was cowardly. he was getting at luda cuz he was jealous he was in his shadow. luda put out dtp albums that go gold. luda is harder. without no strap ti will get beat up everyday of his life. don't get shit twisted. he anin't getting at nobody on sight unless his homeys or gun is around
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don't believe no internet shit. flip is harder and ti is a hater anin't no way around tha shit. keep other men out yo mouth. im not from atlanta and i don't care bout no street cred. he anin't neva did no gangsta shit to me. everything he so called did to flip was cowardly. he was getting at luda cuz he was jealous he was in his shadow. luda put out dtp albums that go gold. luda is harder. without no strap ti will get beat up everyday of his life. don't get shit twisted. he anin't getting at nobody on sight unless his homeys or gun is around
lol don't believe what?? it's been confirmed dude went nuts on zulu, and every single story/witness has come out as saying luda left the room soon as the fight began...flip is harder...so gangsta 2 talk shit on ti while he was locked up ::)
dude got what he deserved (his career over) :D
lol he never did no gangsta shit to me?? dude has street cred out the ass, ain't no way around that..and ooh yea dtp sells sooo well
should i point out: Young Dro Sales < Field Mob Sales < Shawnna Sales
seems like he ain't have no strap when he stomped the fuck outta zulu :D
and best part is ain't heard shit bout his homies...he punched dude and choked him, security had 2 get him off zulu's ass
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u think yo way and i think mine pimpsuit
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u think yo way and i think mine pimpsuit
iight agree 2 disagree
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don't believe no internet shit. flip is harder and ti is a hater anin't no way around tha shit. keep other men out yo mouth. im not from atlanta and i don't care bout no street cred. he anin't neva did no gangsta shit to me. everything he so called did to flip was cowardly. he was getting at luda cuz he was jealous he was in his shadow. luda put out dtp albums that go gold. luda is harder. without no strap ti will get beat up everyday of his life. don't get shit twisted. he anin't getting at nobody on sight unless his homeys or gun is around
lol don't believe what?? it's been confirmed dude went nuts on zulu, and every single story/witness has come out as saying luda left the room soon as the fight began...flip is harder...so gangsta 2 talk shit on ti while he was locked up ::)
dude got what he deserved (his career over) :D
lol he never did no gangsta shit to me?? dude has street cred out the ass, ain't no way around that..and ooh yea dtp sells sooo well
should i point out: Young Dro Sales < Field Mob Sales < Shawnna Sales
seems like he ain't have no strap when he stomped the fuck outta zulu :D
and best part is ain't heard shit bout his homies...he punched dude and choked him, security had 2 get him off zulu's ass
LOL...Niggaz dont want it with Ethiopian T.I.
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IMO Lil Flip is a far better mc/lyricist/freestyler than TI. Luda destroyed TI with the "please stay off the t.i.p of my dick" line, that is right up there with "you lil fuck i got money stacks bigger than you".....MOving on, LOL at Weezy not having swagger. I agree with "weezy f" Jay doesnt want it with Weezy, maybe, just maybe in his prime but not now. Wayne would embarass him. And on a similar note TI doesnt want it with Luda, he could not in any way shape or form, turn people against luda like he did Flip. I cant think of a single person who would say "fuck ludacris, i hate that guy, im ridin with TI"....Luda gets way 2 much respect 2 lose a beef 2 anyone but Nas, Scarface and maybe Snoop.
ur juss saying all this cuz t.i and jay r goin at them...and plus cuz wayne is down with those no-names
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Story still don't sound right to me. Luda is just going to get up and leave? Even if Chaka had that coming to him for him to walk off does not sound right.
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Story still don't sound right to me. Luda is just going to get up and leave? Even if Chaka had that coming to him for him to walk off does not sound right.
every story saying that :-\
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IMO Lil Flip is a far better mc/lyricist/freestyler than TI. Luda destroyed TI with the "please stay off the t.i.p of my dick" line, that is right up there with "you lil fuck i got money stacks bigger than you".....MOving on, LOL at Weezy not having swagger. I agree with "weezy f" Jay doesnt want it with Weezy, maybe, just maybe in his prime but not now. Wayne would embarass him. And on a similar note TI doesnt want it with Luda, he could not in any way shape or form, turn people against luda like he did Flip. I cant think of a single person who would say "fuck ludacris, i hate that guy, im ridin with TI"....Luda gets way 2 much respect 2 lose a beef 2 anyone but Nas, Scarface and maybe Snoop.
ur juss saying all this cuz t.i and jay r goin at them...and plus cuz wayne is down with those no-names
What are you talking about?
Lil FLip's lyrical ability > > > > > TI's by a million miles. I would be willing 2 bet my life savings neither of them could fight sleep though.
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t.i. will kill luda
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
U can not be believing whats comeing from your on mouth cuzz....the only king is (face),and he really aint into that shit.luda got skills homie,and has also played the rap game very well if thats the case 8)
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i wanna see how ti look. cuz i do not believe he just wooped chaka without taking no hits back
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IMO Lil Flip is a far better mc/lyricist/freestyler than TI. Luda destroyed TI with the "please stay off the t.i.p of my dick" line, that is right up there with "you lil fuck i got money stacks bigger than you".....MOving on, LOL at Weezy not having swagger. I agree with "weezy f" Jay doesnt want it with Weezy, maybe, just maybe in his prime but not now. Wayne would embarass him. And on a similar note TI doesnt want it with Luda, he could not in any way shape or form, turn people against luda like he did Flip. I cant think of a single person who would say "fuck ludacris, i hate that guy, im ridin with TI"....Luda gets way 2 much respect 2 lose a beef 2 anyone but Nas, Scarface and maybe Snoop.
ur juss saying all this cuz t.i and jay r goin at them...and plus cuz wayne is down with those no-names
What are you talking about?
Lil FLip's lyrical ability > > > > > TI's by a million miles.
lmao
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
U can not be believing whats comeing from your on mouth cuzz....the only king is (face),and he really aint into that shit.luda got skills homie,and has also played the rap game very well if thats the case 8)
T.I. is king of the mainstream south...he said it, and nobody went at him (and who eventually did got they career ended)
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
U can not be believing whats comeing from your on mouth cuzz....the only king is (face),and he really aint into that shit.luda got skills homie,and has also played the rap game very well if thats the case 8)
T.I. is king of the mainstream south...he said it, and nobody went at him (and who eventually did got they career ended)
Yeah Scarface said he don't want that title and Luda basically said the same. Those are titles the fans put on artists not themselves. I will give T.I. credit though he said it and does not mind backing it up for peeps that do not believe him.
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TI going at Luda for supremecy of the South
Jay going at Weezy for Best Rapper/President Carter title
But IMO Weezy is the best rapper as of this moment and he is also the real king of the south but thats just my opinion.
If only Weezy got as much publicity as Tip
sorry dog but T.I. is king man...it goes past mic skills...it's everything...Weezy been in the game longer and where's his hustle game? T.I. gon end up bein a jay-z like businessman...T.I. has also played the rap game absoutely perfect...street classics, mainstream success out the ass etc
U can not be believing whats comeing from your on mouth cuzz....the only king is (face),and he really aint into that shit.luda got skills homie,and has also played the rap game very well if thats the case 8)
T.I. is king of the mainstream south...he said it, and nobody went at him (and who eventually did got they career ended)
Yeah Scarface said he don't want that title and Luda basically said the same. Those are titles the fans put on artists not themselves. I will give T.I. credit though he said it and does not mind backing it up for peeps that do not believe him.
yee he tries his best 2 back it up..the best was during the flip beef when tip got scarface on the phone talkin shit about flip :D
that shit was fuckin priceless, 1 of the greatest things to ever happen in ANY beef lol
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Damn, that's some hard shit
anyway, it seems like this thread has turned out to "who u like more"
Luda > Weezy > T.I. > Flip
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lol true that k-dub
T.I. < Luda < Weezy < Flip
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Luda completley murdered T..I. on that Stomp joint.
I consider myself a big fan of T.I. but Luda is in another galaxy when it comes to terms of mc --> better flow, presence, versetality, lyrical....
T.I. is way better than Weezy though.
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Luda completley murdered T..I. on that Stomp joint.
I consider myself a big fan of T.I. but Luda is in another galaxy when it comes to terms of mc --> better flow, presence, versetality, lyrical....
T.I. is way better than Weezy though.
yea luda did kill that stomp verse..maybe the best verse i've ever heard him spit
i like Tip's flow better, and T.I. can get really get down with the lyrics, but luda is defanitely a beast when it comes to lyrics and presence...T.I. got some crazy versetality (listen to that Trap Muzik album lol) as well though...
i don't see the big deal about weezy either....fuckin voice is soooooo annoying WOW...i see his rhymes is cool here and there, but dude got NO flow at all
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dude t.i. weighs about 95 lbs
he looks like snoop dogg without his shirt on
ludacris and t.i. were both at powerhouse the concert in l.a. nothing happened ??
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dude t.i. weighs about 95 lbs
he looks like snoop dogg without his shirt on
ludacris and t.i. were both at powerhouse the concert in l.a. nothing happened ??
nah...recently just some subliminal disses, and T.I. beating down Chaka Zulu (Cris' manager)...it's already dead, T.I. apologized
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No disrespect but I can't believe anyone would/could say Flip is better at anything than TI, rapping wise. No matter how you break it down, TI ENDED Flips career, like 50 did Ja Rule. Flip went from a gold artists to selling MAYBE 80K a double cd. I don't even really dislike Flip, but TI is on another level right now. And oh, if anybody could dethrone P. Carter, Weezy is the best bet for that. Only thing is, there's quite a bit of easy ammo out there against Wayne, and Jay is a clever dude.
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No disrespect but I can't believe anyone would/could say Flip is better at anything than TI, rapping wise. No matter how you break it down, TI ENDED Flips career, like 50 did Ja Rule. Flip went from a gold artists to selling MAYBE 80K a double cd. I don't even really dislike Flip, but TI is on another level right now. And oh, if anybody could dethrone P. Carter, Weezy is the best bet for that. Only thing is, there's quite a bit of easy ammo out there against Wayne, and Jay is a clever dude.
yea it's mind boggling how anybody can say flip is better lol...and just to make matters worse, he didn't go from a gold artist to 80K, he went from a DOUBLE PLATNIUM artist to 80K :D
Yea, I think weezy got wayyyyy to much easy ammo to go at Jay right now
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^^^^ koopa > all of the above
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rap fans is fickle don't think ti will always be on top. flip had his time and it just so happens that ti's time is right now. and he went to selling a mil off two videos to 80 thousand. yea we all know but i still bump flip and i bought king and i need mine and i need mine is better than king like i said b4. but anin't nobody hating on ti im just a flip fan
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lol true that k-dub
T.I. < Luda < Weezy < Flip
It's all about taste and opinios homie
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lol true that k-dub
T.I. < Luda < Weezy < Flip
It's all about taste and opinios homie
ofcourse
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I like both T.I., Luda and some of Flip's music. Just aggressive competition that's all.
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I like both T.I., Luda and some of Flip's music. Just aggressive competition that's all.
yup, and ain't nothin ever been wrong with a little friendly competition in hiphop...IMO it makes artists better...T.I. went OFF on Flip during the beef, some of his best lyrical songs are Flip disses...Luda went OFF on stomp at T.I., I admit only hearing Luda's last 3 albums, but from what i've heard that was also some of Luda's best work..Hell, even Flip had a couple alright disses at Tip..
The problem with today's hiphop is its fans focus to much on the image of the rapper, and whether or not they're "real" (i admit i am also guilty of that on some occasions) and that's why most healthy hiphop beefs turn violent