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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Don Jacob on July 20, 2001, 06:45:17 PM
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i don't know what reliogion any of y'all are but whatever you are can y'all pleez pray for my cuzin, i ain't allowed to say what for but just say a prayer for her, it's really putting a ripple in my family and i just need y'all suport...thanks y'all
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hope everything works out wit your cousin dogg.
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YO SUP HOMIE?
ILL SAY A PRAYER FOR HER
HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR BETTER
PEACE HOMIE...
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sorry bout dat dog, I know how dat shit feels like. :'(
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thanks tha7th, and if you want pictures in your profile just right click on them and select properties and copy the URL adress and paste it onto the thing in your profile modifier
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thanks tha7th, and if you want pictures in your profile just right click on them and select properties and copy the URL adress and paste it onto the thing in your profile modifier
LOL @ that comment .
my prayers are with your cousin ...... what happened ?
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I got ya dogg. I'm Catholic, so I'll get at Mary too :)
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Umm, I copied da URL of tha site of where my pics are and pasted it on the modifier thing, but still it says no pic. i dunno wassup.
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Same here homie... Prayerz go out to your Familia... hope you guys get through whatever it is you're going through.
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My bad, i got it now, thanks dog, prayerz go out 2 yur cuz.
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My prayers go out to ya family, i've gone thru' some shit too. Hope she's aight. PEACE
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PRAYERS 4 UR WHOLE FAMILY................
peace
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I hope everything works out for you and your family Jake
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IM PRAYIN FOR YOU AND YA FAMILY BIGJAKE !!
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prayin 4 ya dogg
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I know how ya feel dawg cause my pops is just recovering from a heart attack. I hope everything works out for the better.
To be honest I don't believe in any religion but if I did you know my prayers would be with your cuz.
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hey you got prayers from me too........ ;)
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My thoughts and prayers are wit you and yours Jake
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Tomorrow Is a New Day
Sometimes we do not feel
like we want to feel
Sometimes we do not achieve
what we want to achieve
Sometimes things that happen
do not make sense
Sometimes life leads us in directions
that are
beyond our control
It is at these times, most of all
that we need someone
who will quietly understand us
and be there to support us
I want you to know
that I am here for you
in every way
and remember that though
things may be difficult now
tomorrow is a new day
-Poem by Susan Polis Schutz
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Hello all...i am TIERD TIERD TIERD...so, i hope this e-mail makes enough sense. A thought came to me ealier today, and i was told to share it with you. *smile* There was a quote i heard, saying, "you dont know love until you've lost it...". If you know me, you know my mind, i HAD to understand what that meant..i knew it to be true, but, WHY? ...the "masters of love" know that, to truly HAVE that love, you have to be aware that you never really "have" it. They allow thier mind the freedom to understand that one day, that love will be gone, so, they have to appreciate every second its with them.... On the flip side, and i would say the majority of us, fall under another category....haha...If you are in a relationship, you have a talent, or are just living day to day, the reason it is "hard" lies in the fact that you are forgetting what you have! Most of us take for granted, even the simple things, because we have never lost it. I would say that until you have lost love, you have never really "had" it...or at least you dont KNOW you HAVE it! Even those who are "masters of love" are constantly choosing the experience of "loss" in their mind, in order to aprreciate the present love they HAVE. Think about it! Do you wanna know why forgivness is the gift of God? It gives us the opportunity to "re-appreciate" what we did not appreciate at first. The concept of "second-chances" is powerful, because usually on the "first chace at love" is not much of an experience...i mean, if you have "it" to start, you never really know what your missing, understand? The more times you forgive, the deeper the lesson and appreciation...but you usually will have to lose what you love at least once...well, you WILL have to lose love at least once in order to experience love. Its just your choice on WHICH WAY you wish to lose it...you can actually EXPERIENCE it in a physical way, or you can journey your own mind and experience the loss without actually going trough it... A good example would be to imagine a person who is born with legs and loses them in a accident...(could be you one day....im helping you along the mental trip *smile*)...right now, our legs are just "there"...now, if you LOST them? man..then, if you were to have them "given" back..the concept of walking, or exercising will never again be taken for granted. Another example more people can relate to is the idea of "losing" your love in a relationship sense...when you have it, its just "there", but, if you put yourself through the experience of "loss" constantly, you will always remember what you have! So, i will say this....if you are in a situation and its a "fight", i would say 80% of that fight is cause you are forgetting one day it will "permanently" be gone! The other 20%....haha..well...if you "lose" something and genuinly dont miss it, then, you probably never DID love to start.. You wanna hear a song about this...? Check out the deceased Biggie Smalls, who said it VERY well..."your nobody, till somebody kills you..." By then, everybody HAS to see what is lost...*smile* ...my bad ya'll..im sorry...i forgot the best part of this whole messege!!!! Here's the thing, you are never actually "losing" love, it doesnt matter if its physical or mental...you are only giving yourself the ILLUSION that you are losing love...why? so you can remember, or experience the love you have over and over..but, in actuality, you are never losing anything. Those "masters of love" i speak of, are those who know HOW to "control the illusions", so to speak!! But, just remember :you cannot lose what you always ARE!!!
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tell your cousin this and show her a lot of love Jake no matter what she shows you.....GO PLACIDLY amid the noise and the hate, and remember what peace there may be in silence...as far as possible. Without surrenderbe on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly, and clearly:and listen to others' story, even to the dull and the ignorant: they to have their story. Avoid loud and aggresive persons, they are vexations to the spirit...If you compare yourself with others, you may become bitter or vain, for always there will be greater or lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interestedin your own career, however humble; If is a real possession in changing fortunes of time...Exercise caution in your bussiness affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is: Many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism...Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for the face of all aridity and disenchantment. It is as perennial as the grass...Take kindlythe counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strengh of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness...Beyond a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars: you have a right to be here. And wether or not is it clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, Whatever you conceive him to be...And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusions of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful, strive to be happy.
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I'll give her my prayer (i wish I knew for what)...But whatever it is...good luck...
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I'll keep your cousin in my prayers. Hope things get better.
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I hope everything turns out okay. I'll pray for your cousin.
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Sorry im late on this, ill give out a prayer, hope things work out jake
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wow whoopitywhoop that is some deep shiznit you wrote there and man I read it all and understood wot you were saying and that put's a whole different perspective on how I viewed life. Thanx man. Wot you said is undboutedly tru and it is good we still have people like yourselfs in this world to share wot we all wish we could hear.
The only thing I disagree with you is about God. I have never came to believe within that God is of a non-fiction background but instead of a fiction like Jesus. I don not understand why people believe in a person that is suppose to do good yet can bring such harm to families. people say that is just the way god is but how can a person of good bring hurt & pain o yourself by taking away the life that is around you.
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Ya dats true, Like christians say whenever u got problems, just ask tha lord 4 help with heart and he'll help u.
But most of tha times he doesn't.
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Thats not true, he has always helped me when I needed it. SOmetimes you gotta be patient or maybe what you asked for isn't the best option.
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ya u rite, I guess u gotta be patient.
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Well for years I asked god to help me in things and they weren't even big they were just small things and he nvever helped once and so I stopped believing in him and till this day I still don't believe him. I just think he was a character made up to bring peace to places in the very early days of humans.
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ill give my pray
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that's sad n-imy, that's never happened to me..it might have taken a while for him to answer my prayers but i'm glad it did take that much amount of time becuase at the end it was better than i ever imagined
and maybe the reason why he never helped you is becuase you stopped believing, not every thing you ask for comes true, god isn't your personal geini...it's like this homie when i was little i use to suck at basketball i could never make a shot, before every shot i would pray "god please make this shot for me" and i'd miss , i was sooooo mad but my mom said god isn't a geanie and maybe you don't make it every time becuase god wants you to practice to be your best instead of just relying on him to make every shot every time, and if he made every shot for you, where would the fun be there?...i gave me mom a shrug and went back to throwing missed shot after missed shot in my basketball cort....7 years later i'm co-captain of my highschool basketball team, leading rebounder of the league and have the most accurate shot on my team all that and i'm getting offers from different colleges to play for them , and i'm barley a sophmore in highschool.....and all i prayed to god for was to make a couple of shots in my home basketball court......that's how it is in life homie, you can't go around waving your magic wond around expecting instant result like in the movies, if that happened we would just be a world full of mindless zombies who have no free will and are TOTALLY dependant, god loves all his lil homies and wants them to have their own free will and thought, and if you pray for somthing that should be prayed for ie. like your mother is sick or whatever....not please help me beat this video game before lil johnny down the street becuase he's a lil ass hole....., god will hear your prayer and make it so that your prayer is answered RIGHT when you REALLY need it and it will be even greater than what you asked for, god will never disapoint you just have to keep the faith in him
another example in my life is this past year, i've been in DEEP depression for over a year now (i'm over it now) but i'd pray every night to stop the constant hurt in my life, and it seemed every day would get hurt even worse i'd cry somtimes and beg god to help me....even though i was going deeper and deeper into depression i kept faith in him that he'd turn things around for me....and he did, as every one knows i'm a HUGE snoop fan and i live in a small town and theres a slim to none chance snoop would ever come here... but then i found out he was coming. i was excited...REEEAL excited but i knew i probably wouldn't be able to make it since i just lost my job and had no money....heres where god steps in, i hardly listen to the radio but today i happened to listen, and they were giving out tickets (floor) if you could answer a question "what is snoops REAL name" every one was calling in saying calvin, so i picked up the phone and gave the real answer codozar...bam i got tickets....and if that wasn't enough, my phone rang and it was girl i had a lil crush on last year...we got to talkin' and now we hang out almost every day and i heard from one of her friends that she's taken a liking to me ( ;D) , and theres been alot of good things happening the past month or so, the cousin thing is a minor set back, but i have faith that he'll take care of every thing just like he did with every thing else.....oh heres another story i wanna share, as a couple of people on here know i grew up without a dad, when people aske about him i just say he's dead, when in all reality i don't know where the heck he is or what he's doing...when i was about 4 or 5 he (like every deadbeat dad) abandonded me and my mom for a while we were living poor , we were GHETTO, we prayed every night that we wouldn't have to struggle anymore and we'd live even better without Joe (i don't call him dad he's just refered to as joe now) well as always god came through and we're doing well finantually, we moved out of the ghetto and we're living compfortably and are doing 2x better than when joe was in our lifes and 10x better than we were when we were living ghetto like
you also said somthing about god doing wrong and hurting people.....you got to understand that god isn't the only supernatural being...theres also satan who's whole mission is to kill, steal, and destroy, and satan's other mission is to stray you from the truth and to lead you away from god, with lies like a person that is suppose to do good yet can bring such harm to families. people say that is just the way god is but how can a person of good bring hurt & pain o yourself by taking away the life that is around you.
that my friend isn't of god, that is satan doing all that pain and hurt, if you put your faith in god that stuff may still happen becuase your still on earth and will have to deal with santan on a daily basis but if your heart belong's to god's than he'll help you throught all that and at the end you will earn a big reward at the end and i'm talking BIGGGGG, bigger than bigg jeffree and 100 up in smoke tours way bigger than that friend...and he's up in heaven creating all that for you....
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Wot you say iz all true but I when I believed I was always a very regular church goer and I prayed every night I went to bed, also I prayed for other people when they had things going wrong in their family but one day I was young (about 10/11) and my Gran fell ill. I loved my gan so much and she treated me as if I were her only child she ever had. Well I prayed madly. Every chance I had I prayed and I even started going to church that extra time I had to spare. My Gran was also a great believer and so I was praying to God every chance I got but every day I prayed more and more my Gran got worse & worse and one night I went to see her and she was telling me she was going to go to a better place and I wouldn't believe her. And she lept saying it and how she is going off to a better place I ran off crying. She stayed in her house while she was ill because she didn't like hospitals so she was given treatment at home. I ran off home and cried all night. I prayed all night that she would get better.
The next morning I made my journey up to my grans to apologise for the way I had reacted and to acknowledge that she was going to a better place and that i should enjoy the last moments that we had 2gether. Unknown to me while I was making my way up their a fone call was made to the house. As I was making my way to the house I could see my dad running up to the house and my mom behind him trying to calm him down and wot looked like she was trying to comfort him at the same time. I knew summin' was wrong so I ran up to the house and in my gran's bedroom as fast as I could. My grandad tried to stop me but I was so desperate to see that he let me go. There on the bed was my gran with her eyez closed laying still. I lay on the bed next to her begging her to wake up but she never did. My gran had died early in the morning, My family behind broke out in tears because of the way I was acting. They all say she died because of her condition but I know that morning she died of a broken heart because it hurt her bad to see me run away from her and not believe that she was going to die. I loved my gran very much and that night I left in an angry state and never seen her again. My heart was broke and I blame god for this. I cursed at him every chance I got and shouted so he heard me. He never once answered me back and so I stopped going to church and believing in him and till this day I have never forgiven god for taking my gran and people can say it was satan but my Gran was so kind that Satan would get no where near her and it would have to be of god's work to take her away. This is the first time I have spoken of this story since that morning as I have never been able to get over the pain of losing her because to me the way she loved me it wa slike losing some1 in my family (i.e mom, dad, brother etc.) and every time I think of this story or recall it I start to cry to myself because I have never had any1 apart form my mom & dad love me as much as my gran did. And even now I have never fully recovered from losing my gran.
I just read this story over that is why I have edited this bit to be put in here cause after I wrote it the first time I couldn't read it the second time for the fear I would start crying but I read over it and managed to hold back the tears but this story sounds like a sad movie. I know it sounds weird to say that but it does in a way. I guess I'm still getting over the loss even 5 years later. I miss my gran so much I wish she were here........ :'( :'( :'(....I'm sorry I gotta go now.
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Preach it brotha Jake!!!
N-Imy: I'm sorry what happened to your grandmother but you shouldn't blame God. He didn't put the illness on her. Maybe it was the best that she passed cause she won't have to suffer and if she truly believed in God like you said she is in a better place.
Losing a loved one is the hardest thing anyone will ever experience, trust me I have never gotten over the death of both of my grandmothers, plus watching my great-grandmother losing her daughter. I'll tell y'all my story:
Way back in August of 95, I was just about to start 5th grade the next day. My grandmother was really fatigued and tired so we went to the doctor because we thought she needed some vitamins to give her vitamins or somethin. She went to talk to the doctor and she was taking a long time in their. Her meeting was gonna take so long that my grandma was gonna stay in the hospital for the night to take more tests. I didn't think it was nuthin serious so I just went to school the next day as usual. Then that night she was suppose to spend at the hospital turned into a week of tests. She eventually came home. She sat me down and told me she had cancer in the brain, lungs and stomach and may pass away in about three months. Now that was a shocker to a 11 year old boy, this woman was more than just a grandma to me, she has lived with me since I was wearing diapers. She was also gonna start taking radiation so I thought she would get better but I was more than wrong. She took a drastic change for the worst. Her beautiful hair that grew back from when she was balding mysteriously (that was another miracle thanks to God) began to fall out. I knew how much that hair meant to her and it broke her heart and mine to see her lose it. She also began to lose weight drastically, she was always a big woman but now she became skinny because it was too painful to eat (thanks to the whole in her stomach). She was dying quick.
Also at this time my mother was pregnant with my sister and she was going through alot. We were all afraid she would lose the baby due to stress. SO one day I got on my knees and prayed for over an hour. I asked the Lord to just give my grandma an extra month to live so my mother could have the baby without complications (she was due in December, my gran was suppose to die a month before) and so that my grandma could see her granddaughter before she passed. Thankfully the Lord answered my prayers, and around November of 95 my grandma started making improvements. She would get up and walk, she woud talk and even eat a little bit. The doctors couldn't believe it.
On december 12, 1995 my mom had my daughter and my grandma even named her, things were going good, my grandma was able to see my sister and God answered my prayers.
Then around January of 96, my grandmas health took a decline. She went back to not eating and was even in more pain. The Lord already blessed my family by letting my grandma live 2 months pass her death date. My grandma go to bad tho she was on the brink of death and we had to take her to the hospital. That night was the longest and most painful night of my life because my grandma was suppose to pass away. I asked God a favor one more time, that I could just have one more conversation before she passed. I had so much faith that it would happen because of what God has did so far that I stopped worrying and went to sleep. I woke up next morning and miraculously my grandma survived but was in a coma. EVen tho she was in a coma I went to go see my grandma for what would be the last time.
I went to the hospital and she was in a coma. I went over to her and said I loved her while I was crying. I bent over to give her a hug and to my surprise she hugged me back. She also started speaking to me. The whole hospital was in disbelief, this woman who should of been dead 2 months before is talking to me clearly. And the spooky thing is she knew that the bathroom was on the third floor of the hospital even tho she was in a coma (til this day that is unexplained). I had a long conversation with her about everything that has been going on. I left the hospital and said good bye. She passed on January 21, 1996, the next day.
Til this day I am haunted by the images of my grandma in her sick state but I don't blame God. Blaming God only makes you bitter and angry. Instead God has helped me thru the situation and now I know she is in a better place and if I walk the right path I will reunite with her someday.
Don't be angry with the Lord for what happened, ask him to help you thru it.
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I say I stopped believing in god after my gran died but that is a lie. It was infact about a yr after she died I stopped believing. Because for that whole year I prayed to god to help me get through the suffering of losing my gran and till this day I still feel the same pain and hrt inside at losing my gran that I felt when I lost her and for this I blame god. He has never helped me through anything. Everything I have done has had tobe done by myself. God can take no credit from wot I have accomplished. I asked him for help and he turned his back on me and so I have had to battle my way through life without him and even when I do accomplish things it is not through God it is through myself and my own determination to get things done. I went through about a year of depression when I was 14-15 because of things that were happening to me at the time and wot had happened in the past. I was on the verge of killing myself. I even tried once but failed. I had asked god for help to get me through that. Did he help me. NO. instead God decided to leave me alone. I had stopped believing in him so why should he help my. I tried believing in him again but I couldn't for this was the guy that took the life of my Gran and I can never forgive him for that. Never. This guy took one of th emost important people in my life away from me and I will never forgive him for that and he can push me aside for all I caare because I have done thigns on my own in my life and I will continue that way without gods help. Did god help me through depression. No. I fought my own way out of that. Was it's god work taht I failed to rid me of my life when I was in depression. No. It was because my weight was too havy for that old piece of rope. I will never be on the side of god again. He ruined my life when I was young and gave me a scar on the inside for the day until I pass away. Do I desaerve to forgive him. NO!. He has done nothing for me in my life and so he will get nothing back from me except my family and friends around me which he is going to take. I condem him for the work he does. Why does he have to take the people close to me in my life. When I die I would rather take a seat in hell than be up in heaven with a man who claims to be of peace and love yet supposedly works in misterious ways. When summin good happens it's gods work. When summin bad happens it's the devils work. God is a man who does not bring peace and love but brings hurt and suffering to people who once believed but don't now like myself. If you are not a believer you are not worthy of gods help.
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man all i gotta say is i'll pray for you, and your being attack by the devil big time
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I hope this message helps sikotic and n-imy........and Jake the next time that you get depressed like that,,,,,,,,tell us man we got ya back..
Set Free
By Whoopity Whoop
A dark Handsome angel appeared before me
Wings spread til their tips caught the light
I was standing there listening
He told me he had something to say that night
He told about a major loss
and what it might mean
He told me to tell you this
He told it to me in a dream
He said God didn't kill ya Grandma
All He did was set her free........
Too many things hurt her down here
and it was time to go free
too much weight on her in one lifetime
and she needed a rest with thee
but that she didn't forget you
she just wanted to be free
the same freedom he offers you
and the same freedom he offers me
when you die,it seems like you go away
but I have to tell you
that it is really not that way
a part of you carries her
God intended it that way
so even though you feel loss,know
shes been with you quite sometime ago
and she's free...........
He set her free.....she didn't die
She was set free...............
Rest In Peace and I am sorry for yalls loss let me know if I can help..........one more thing and he told me to share it with all three of you,do not ever let anyone tell you they know how you feel.......and whatever you do do not do it yourself that degradates everything that person stood for........instead love as only you can and remember He loves you...........
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:'( That was beautiful man. For real.
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we should start a religious forum this stuff gets deep
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:'( yeah seriosly, Jake i aggree with every word you said, yes , Jake i never knew any of that stuff about you,
but my respect for you just went up a lot
and sikotic , you sound really cool too, i got respect for you too homie
N-imy - you need to get back on track, and follow God's words, religion is so important, you sound lost.
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well inmy jus sounds mad at Yah but I-nmy don't you know he doesn't get mad at us when we get mad at him?Let me give you an example,have you fellaz ever sat in your room cuz you were depressed sad lonely and whatever else and cried,all of a sudden you feel ten times better and not sure why?Cuz see he cries with you when you cry,so Inmy when you hurt he hurts too,......ask him boo you might be surprised at the reaction you get from God.............andJake I am sorry if there is ever anything I have ever done that has offended you.,,,remember Jake we are here to listen even if it seems we don't..................and sikotic thank you..........
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I hear wot ya saying but unless the guy upstairs can do summin really special for me then my faith in him will forever be lost. Also sorry to point this out and I don't mean to sound cheeky or that but my name is N-Imy and not wot you were saying I-nmy. Any1's mistake.
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well the only thing you and I can do then is try boo..........there is a passage in the bible that says if two or more agree upon something in my name and it is Tha Lords will then it shall be done.........so lets agree upon something..........you got anything you really want to ask him for? ;)
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Dude, u sound like a preacher, but it's all good.
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nah I am not a preacher,but I like Yah alot.......mainly cuz he can do whatever the hell he wants which yall gotta admit is cool 8)think about it,if you were God you could do whatever the hell you wanted too,too.......... :Dand I know some peeps that would get themselves struck down if I was God.....but see that is the beauty of it........we get to live while he has to have responsibilty for us,I mean would you want responsiblity for everyone on this planet?Then you can see why I respect and got nothin but love for Yahweh.........
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up people..i wrote this a while back, thougt i could share it with you...here it is: ...everything happens so fast!! As you appreciate one moment, its gone. Even as i write this...its like im catching up to the future. You blink your eyes and you are closer to "the end". When things move this fast, how can you possibly find time to enjoy your seconds? With every passing second you have less time to appreciate more moments. You include into the equation the fact that we have to live our lives, thus we never take enough time to appreciate our moments, circumstances and situations, and the conclusion is that: you miss out on life...you miss out onl God, actually. This whole thought was triggered on the bus when I was thinking about something that had happened when i was just a boy. I then started rewinding my thoughts to all those times i see elderly people taking peaceful strolls in the park as i watch in envy! People might question how i know they feel peaceful, and it's simply because i feel it just by looking at them. They say that you are at your most spiritual peak when you are in your 50's and over, and I now understand that its because....everything slows down!! You get closer to God because each moment stays there a bit longer...some moments more than others!! Your young, and you HAVE to "do" this or "be" that (you are told) so instead of enjoying the seconds, you look ahead and plan for the future, but, what about right now?? Most people get old and reminise about the "good ol' days" and that feels so good because its a form of slowing time down. Too many people who have rough childhoods remember it as fast as it happened...they rush the experience in their mind because they dont wish to remember it....but, imagine somebody showing you a picture for a second then taking it away, thre's nothing to appreciate....now imagine having that SAME picture being shown to you for a minute! You have time to observe it, analyze it, register it, appreciate it....learn from it!! In our case, slowing down how fast that picture is shown to you makes a big difference because, that picture is God!! It is love. peace, happiness, appreciation, satisfaction, understanding....it is God! Most of us are RUNNING across a line of pictures and never really seeing them... take a break and take time to appreciate what is in those pictures...dont run, walk!! In fact, dont even moven....every picure is the same, but in a different position. There was a time i was asking HOW i could learn to appreciate events that dont "go my way". I dont know exactly how this advice fits, but....SLOW DOWN!!! Everything has its time and its to my benifit to let that "time" come when its ready...until then, enjoy God!!!
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and one more thing n-imy every time you choose truth you choose god,everytime you choose life you choose him........that is all he is.......he is every good time you have ever had and everytime you got through something it was because of him.......I have a freind named Sid and that up there is something Sid wrote......he said he never quite understood why he wrote it.......but I can explain this whole thing to you and Jake............first off Jakes cousin is being taught something,there is a few things she will learn in the course of this Jake that she would not have learned otherwise,also she is going through growing pains.........all of us no matter how old experince grwoing pains at some point,we have to that is how we learn to live.......how great God must be that we do not stop learning at a young age,but learn the rest of our lives..........it only takes a few minutes for you to sit down with God and realize this is someone you cannot live without,on the other hand there is people on this planet that will force God down your throat.......I want you to understand that if something doesn't feel right to you,even if they are talking about God it means that it may not be from him,........and not every church is his,.just like not everyone of us will pick him.,but for the gloriuos few who pick someone who is wilder then the wildest ocean and freeer then any dream ever dreamed then they will have theirs................they will...... :o ;)
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Whoopity Whoop is on point. Props.
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I just gotta ask has any1 been to church here in the UK? It is so boring. Some old guy gets up and reads out of a book. I can't stand church. Infact I am so against church that I refused to go to church for my nephews christening. I want our church's to be like the churches they show on TV in a film or that when they black people do a service and he starts like shouting the stuff and that, it keeps the people awake and getting involved. Our churches are just plain boring. Also I respect wot you are saying WhoopityWhoop, wot was also told by Sikotic and BigJake but sadly I have come to the point that I start to angry a bit when I go on about how God ain't real to people and the belief that was once there can never be there again. I think it is that once you stop believing in God and come to realise to yourself wot you were beliving in will never make you believe again also do you know at my skool if you believed in God you would probably get slagged to hell so it is hard to believe in him but still that doesn't mean that is the reason for not beliving in god. I have stated my reason for that.
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YEH I OCCASIONALY GO 2 CHURCH, NOT OFTEN THO!
AND 4 FUCKS SAKE GET THAT 'HATERS' LIST OFF UR SIGNITURE, THAT AINT GONNA HELP SHIT
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Your wish is my command RUD.
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hope every thing works out Jake... my prayers are with your family
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yo jake....
i want everything to work out good for u.
hopefully it turns out all good
peace
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one more thing n-imy maybe this was God's only way of stopping you and Jakes cousin is to make Jake's cousin have problems...............see I know this is God because only good has come out of this notice that?And N-imy you don't actually have to go to a physical church jus to worship God dear,,,,,,you can get down on your knees right now and tell him you love him.........see let me explain this to you,,,,,,I have lived with a spiritual councelor and over time I learned a good deal spiritualy........I did and you can see it and feel it........but it is not just me man,he can teach you also,,,,,,,,,see watch now........If God let satan mess with Jakes cousin got Jake upset,and Jake is like what the hell,right in the middle of him having a good time......Yah knew then he would come to us........and not just to us,to you :osee that is how much he loves you......and watch now,see Jakes cousin has growing pains going on and the more we agree for her health and for Jakes mind then the more that helps right?But now watch,the more Sikotic,I and all the others in here talk to you,the more you are thinking on God........now do you see where I say this was all God that did this?It's not hard to understand Yah N-Imy but seince you seem to be having trouble I ama help you out a little bit........now to the ones who are following this conversation along,join in anytime He leads you.............11523
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He told me to tell you this:
At this point,you even thinking about him is good.......but it can get better and I ama show you how,,,,,,,,,see you been believing in him for awhile you jus might not have known it was him........Okay first off,that church that you was going to.....well I don't know how old you are and you might be stuck going to it for awhile but Yah told me when it is time to find a better church that whatever looks dead on tha vine is dead on the vine and if it is not alive in God then it is not alive at all.........see what you were looking for is His Spirit and just by admiting what you were looking for you admitted that you want Him..........see how far you have come?And in the beginning it wasn't like this.......but we are not going to go back there........see first everytime you choose to tell the truth you choose to tell God..........see God is the truth,so if you truth then you choose God..........everytime you want to live instead of Die,you chose God instead of satan or death,because Yah is life,,,,,,,,well he is also death and a new way of life,but we are not to that point yet........answer me..........do you believe that there is flowers on the ground,and birds in the air......and that tommorow maybe jus maybe you might get to see it all again?Then what you have is Faith my son :oor God because that is who he is known as is Faith,Life,Love,Truth,Tha Begotten...........oh but he is so much more.............now when I come back maybe tommorow I ama ask Yah tonight why he took ya grandma........see he might not answer you,but as much work as I have done for the man he might answer me..................
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and to everyone else.........there is a passage in the bible that says if two or more agree upon something In God's name(Yahweh-hebrew)and it is tha Lords will then it shall be done........all I need is three of you to agree with me on several issues..........
1.Is Jake's cousin,,,,,,cuz satan is up to some bad shit.........so we can agree that she makes the right choices and we can agree on more faith for her(or more Yah for her N-Imy)
2.Is In-my himself,if we can agree that the break in his heart is healed...........
3.That if this beef contuines between these two boards that both boards contuine to be blessed by Yah
4.On Jake and unsaid prayer request for him
5.and the last one on anyone who reads this last note and makes a comment that a blessing hit them and the ones they are worried about..........
6.that Overseer finds peace in his heart
amen----i agree
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I understand wot you is saying but I do not believe in God and as far as I am concerned nobody can change mymind. Here is how I see it:
God did not make man. Humans grew up from apes and turned into wot we are now. It has been proven.
How could god make flowers and that. Wot does he have a magic wand or summin that allows him to make whateva he wants.
Also God was suppose to have made Earth but Earth was ade because of a supposed big bang and dinosaurs lived on this earth and so did cavemen so if god made humans then they had to survive through times of dinosaurs.
Sorry but that is how I feel. God is a mith. A story that could be believed but when it comes down to it, it isn't real. Have you ever known any1 to see god? Have you ever known any1 to have met Jesus or other people nmentioned in the bible? No because the bib;e is a story that was basically made up. I don't wanna sound negative or nieve but that is just the way I feel about God and until some1 comes up with summin decent that is worth looking at about God being real then I will still not believe there is a god.
Also if ther is a god why are ther so many other different gods and religions? WOuld god not want all hsi people to follow him? Also wot doesGod look like? He? She? Blac? White? Asian etc. Nobody knows because he is a mith.
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Okay N-Imy those are good questions........those are.......I can see that you thought about it before you asked em............but.........I want you to consider something.....what if God was alive.......just what if............If He was.....don't you think He would be hurt that you do not trust Him........so if I proved to you,that you do believe in God by asking you one single question.........would you believe in him then?
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Well I don't think you gonna prove to me that there is a god with one question but yes if you can believe in God then I will try deeply to re-instate me belief in him.
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okay here is ya question.......who do you think it was who got you through that awful night.......and make sure of this when you answer........
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I guess we talking about that night at my grna's when I ran out of the house. Who got me through it? Ehhh......myself I guess. The fact that I went home and cried all night long. My mom and dad came in and comforted me and then I watched some TV and went to sleep so to be honest (and I am telling the truth about wot happened the night I went home here I'm not just saying this so it proves your question wrong) and then I woke up the nxt morning and headed of to my grans. I know for a fact you gonna interprit this passage into how god me through it. I just know you are WhoopityWhoop.
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actually ;)damn I was gonna ask you is it you who also caused you to breathe everyday........but damn you are smart................and if you don't believe in heaven boo..........then where did ya grandma go when she died?............ ;Dnow lets see what kinda answer you got for this........ ;)
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Where has my gran gone? Well apart from 6ft under the ground (joke to break the ice) I dunno. I guess she went somewhere......to be honest she could be haunting some house for all I know but I just don't know where she is.
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well now,listen to me..........wouldn't it be better for you if you knew she went to heaven......and how come you never asked Yah that? ;D
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before I continue I just wanted to ask one thing. Wot is this Yah you kepe going on about?
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IM GUESSIN ITS A REFERENCE TO
'YAHWAY'
OR SUMMIT LIKE THAT,....ITS THE NAME 4 JESUS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT - PROPHETS 4TOLD HIS COMING
peace
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I asked a freind of mine,Sid to read what you put so far N-Imy I did this so that you could see something that I had no idea how to tell you and this is what Sid had to say:
yes...tell him that he should stop considering God to be a "person"...and rather see "HIM" as what he is...a Spirit. His Grandma had a further purpose then simply honoring her physcial duties of earth, but, a spirutual plan that he will not come close to even comprehending understanding unitl he, first understands the Spiritual world...........Everybody in that room is trying to CONVINCE him of something he cant even see...he outta see it for himself, and if he wants to see it, he as to stop believing that this earth or us humans is all there is to God.....that includes himself, which is why he is so convinced he is doing all this on his "own" power...in acutality, he is doing it with Yah's power, because thats the only "power" that exsists...tell that boy to stop being so closed minded......
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and Jake very good,the spelling is Yahweh though,,,,,,,actually in hebrew it would be yhwh so with our spelling it comes out toY-A-H-W-E-H
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oops Rud :-[sorry....... ;D
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THAT WASNT JAKE IT WAS ME - RUD!!
peac
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ITS OK!
I LIKE UR SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE POSTS SO ILL LET IT SLIDE!!
;D
peace
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tell that boy to stop being so closed minded......
Tell Sid thanx for that comment. And also I never knew that about Jesus (being called Yahweh) I just alwayz knew him to be Jesus. But wot I don't see in front of me iz information that is truely making me believe there is a SPIRIT above. I respect wot you are doing Whoopitywoop and thank your friend Sid aswell for his advice and although I am getting good information from yourselfs what I amn't getting is evidence to show me that there is a God.
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okay hold on,let me ask you when ya grandma was here.....did she believe in Yah?(well God,okay)
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this is some more advice from sid........."There are parts of EVERY individual that are trying to go seperate places altogether"-----Sidney Poiter... ...meaning, there is a side to you that is genuine, there is a dark side to you, there is a sad side, happy side, evil side, angry side, curious side....and every single one of those emotions inside of you is trying to go different places and is trying to lead you to different lives! All of us have different personalities and drives, so are controlled by a certain emotion, weather it be "evil", "genuine" or whatever! Sooner or later, every person needs to come to terms with ALL of the emotions inside of them! You may be nice, but, if you never come to terms with your "dark side", you will never feel complete and never feel at peace! Why? Because we all consist of LOVE and FEAR...we are driven by these two main emotions no matter how much you deny it! If you never acknowlege the side of you which is the opposite of what you are now, you will always be in a fight with yourself! You will always feel like there is a part of you that doesnt know itself..and you will be right for believing that! So, come to terms with yourself! Im NOT saying do something evil if you are nice, im NOT saying you need to fake a smile if you aint all too happy, im saying, at least come to terms with what DOES make you happy, sad, angry, etc. If you allow those emotions to run free inside of you without ever recognizing them, who knows where they will go! You cant control something if you dont know where it is...follow me? If you let your anger sit in you without acknowleging it, it will create its own world and own life inside of you and your heart that and, you will never know of until you are NATURALLY pushed to that world! The longer you deny it, the more developed the emotion inside of you without your control. (but, once you come to terms with what you feel, you will re-gain control no matter how developed the emotion has gotten) If you wanna know yourself, you better recognize that the 'Self' consists of more than just what you WANT to be...what you are, is what you are! Until you experience what you are (either through your mind or heart, or action) you can never truly know yourself! ps...again, im NOT saying act a fool to test yourself...but just come to terms; understand where your fears are, and where your love is!!! Ya feel me? *smile*
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let me explain it like this,the only way you gonna know who god is,is to know who you are.........you are apart of him therefore it is very important that you know who you are........everytime you find love you find a peice of Him,or his spirit because that is what Yah embodies is spirit.......so that love that ya felt for ya grandma is Yah.......He made that,just like He made you and me and everything on this planet.........He did it so you and I would have control over our lives and not have to worry about what we are gonna eat where we gonna sleep.......thaings like that.......now you never did ask me what Yah said when I prayed to him........I thought that was interesting all in itself.........anyway Yahweh embodies tha truth also,so when you tell it you are telling the spirit of Yah get it?Love Truth,Life everything embodies him...........
but now let me give you a challenge N-Imy..........
say one sentence that doesn't include Yah in it.....and I will show you how impossible this idea is that he doesn't exist...........Because He does......baby boy.......He does..........
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sid said this to you:then tell him to enjoy his exsitence in anger if that makes him happy.....or better, tell him to forget the concept of "God", and just do whatever he needs to be happy.....and when, or if he gets stuck, come ask for your assistance...leave it at that....but, get that "God" idea out of his head....its messin' with him.
;D :D ;) :) 8) :P :-*
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sid said this to you:then tell him to enjoy his exsitence in anger if that makes him happy.....or better, tell him to forget the concept of "God", and just do whatever he needs to be happy.....and when, or if he gets stuck, come ask for your assistance...leave it at that....but, get that "God" idea out of his head....its messin' with him.
;D :D ;) :) 8) :P :-*
I'm sorry but could explain this more as I don't understand why your friend Sid is meaning by tell him to forget about God.
Also sorry I never asked wot God said when you prayed to him that night but I've had things on my mind l8ly and completely forgot about it. Please accept my apology and fell free to tell me wot he said anytime. Either by posting it here or PM'ing me.
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When you overcome a problem, you become stronger and your vision becomes broadened... the older you are, the more problems you overcome, and the more you learn. The more years you live, the longer the story, the better the insight, the better the story.... For this reason, it is very useful when you take time to LISTEN TO YOUR ELDERS. It dont matter how old you are, whatever you have gone through, those older than you are more experienced and can have some very important input. Im not saying that you should take your elders words as the final one, but, take into account what they say cause you can use there experience to guide you. Not to say you outta do what they do, but again, its almost like having other parts of you which have taken the different forks in the road for you already and you dont gotta make your choices using the theory of "hmmm..lets just take a chance..." haha....sometimes thats fine, but, it wouldnt hurt to know the different things that are possible..ya know? For some people, this is hard to take in cause you just dont believe me..but, look at it this way. If your 13, 20, 35, or even 40....imagine all the things you have learned; imagine what you have learned at your age...now, just picture how much more you will know 10 years down the line...now picture yourself, even now, trying to give ANOTHER younger person some advice and them ignoring you even if you've gone through what they are, at the moment...you gonna be like..."whats wrong with them? dont they know i have been in relationships before?" (or whatever situation it is)...thats the description of an elder for you man..fo real!! They at least desevere SOME respect for getting through life, dont they?? it aint easy man..and for some of them to get to 60 or 70 or 80?? dangz man..you outta give them their respect... Now lastly, i want ya'll to recognize that....YOU ARE ALSO ELDERS....dont be shy to give your input and all that to those younger than you...most young people right now are saying "i can make my own decisions...im mature enough"...it aint about maturity here...its about broading your view so you make some honest choices in your life...being mature is to see more things... man..im tierd as hell...i dont know if this will make much sense but, another burden i was feeling...peace.
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The Invitation
Oriah Mountain Dreamer
Canadian Teacher, Writer
Author of The Invitation, Other Books
It doesn't interest me what you do for a living
I want to know what you ache for
and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing.
It doesn't interest me how old you are
I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool
for love
for your dreams
for the adventure of being alive.
It doesn't interest me what planets are squaring your moon...
I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow
if you have been opened by life's betrayals
or have become shrivelled and closed
from fear of further pain.
I want to know if you can sit with pain
mine or your own
without moving to hide it
or fade it
or fix it.
I want to know if you can be with joy
mine or your own
if you can dance with wildness
and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your
fingers and toes
without cautioning us to
be careful
be realistic
to remember the limitations of being human.
It doesn't interest me if the story you are telling me
is true.
I want to know if you can
disappoint another
to be true to yourself.
If you can bear the accusation of betrayal
and not betray your own soul.
If you can be faithless
and therefore trustworthy.
I want to know if you can see Beauty
even when it is not pretty
every day.
And if you can source your own life
from its presence.
I want to know if you can live with failure
yours and mine
and still stand on the edge of the lake
and shout to the silver of the full moon,
"Yes."
It doesn't interest me
to know where you live or how much money you have.
I want to know if you can get up
after a night of grief and despair
weary and bruised to the bone
and do what needs to be done
to feed the children.
It doesn't interest me who you know
or how you came to be here.
I want to know if you will stand
in the center of the fire
with me
and not shrink back.
It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom
you have studied.
I want to know what sustains you
from the inside
when all else falls away.
I want to know if you can be alone
with yourself
and if you truly like the company you keep
in the empty moments.
© 1995 by Oriah House, From "Dreams Of Desire"
Published by Mountain Dreaming
300 Coxwell Avenue, Box 22546, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4L 2A0
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These Are My Wishes For You”
Sandra Sturtz Hauss
May you find serenity and tranquility
in a world you may not always understand.
May the pain you have known
and the conflict you have experienced
give you the strength to walk through life
facing each new situation with courage and optimism.
Always know that there are those
whose love and understanding will always be there,
even when you feel most alone.
May a kind word,
a reassuring touch,
and a warm smile
be yours every day of your life,
and may you give these gifts
as well as receive them.
May the teachings of those you admire
become part of you,
so that you may call upon them.
Remember, those whose lives you have touched
and who have touched yours
are always a part of you,
even if the encounters were less than you would have wished.
It is the content of the encounter
that is more important than its form.
May you not become too concerned with material matters,
but instead place immeasurable value
on the goodness in your heart.
Find time in each day to see beauty and love
in the world around you.
Realize that what you feel you lack in one regard
you may be more than compensated for in another.
What you feel you lack in the present
may become one of your strengths in the future.
May you see your future as one filled with promise and possibility.
Learn to view everything as a worthwhile experience.
May you find enough inner strength
to determine your own worth by yourself,
and not be dependent
on another's judgment of your accomplishments.
May you always feel loved.
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SHO JAKE...NO PROB.....
AND BESIDEZ IM JEUISH SO MY PRAREZ REALY WORK MAN......LOL :)...ANYWAYZ...HOPE EVERYTHANGZ GON BE A"RIGHT.....
PEACE MAN.....
P.S....AINT MAD AT CHA..CUAZE OF THA ARGUEMEANT WE HAD BEFO....
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when your people died
they went to sing with the angels
when your heart died
it visted the angels too
but for all the tears you've shed
God has kept you
warm and with a little bit of love
in a time when you needed His and mine
and I want you to know
even though I may not know
how much you hurt
that I am here for you and will be
til the end of time
I heard angels voices yesterday
I heard your peoples from far away
and I heard your heart singing so true
its waiting to hear I love you
from you.Life is an open road
of promises yet unseen
come down this road with me
and we will listen to the angels sing...........