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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 21, 2007, 10:17:37 PM
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This was possibly the best album of all of 1997. It sold very well, but I still feel like it was overshadowed by their most memorable albums Creep on a Comeup and East 1999. I don't think that Art of War is better than those albums, however, I do think that the quality is still there, no doubt. Bone didn't fall off until the next year. They were still working with DJ U-Neek on this album, and they hadn't broken up and gone solo yet, and gotten caught up in label beefs.
more on this album later
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This was possibly the best album of all of 1997. It sold very well, but I still feel like it was overshadowed by their most memorable albums Creep on a Comeup and East 1999. I don't think that Art of War is better than those albums, however, I do think that the quality is still there, no doubt. Bone didn't fall off until the next year. They were still working with DJ U-Neek on this album, and they hadn't broken up and gone solo yet, and gotten caught up in label beefs.
more on this album later
co-sign. Not their best album, but a dope one no doubt. Bone needs to get that sound back that they had with U-Neek.
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co-sign. Not their best album, but a dope one no doubt. Bone needs to get that sound back that they had with U-Neek.
No doubt.. the beats are bangin! They actually sound kind of like West Coast beats.
Also, let me remind everybody that 2pac's greatest guest appearance is on this album. "Thug Luv" is fire! Nobody can deny it's a 10!
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Man.. Bizzy Bone is insane on this cd, he is spitting in another galaxy, dude is sick!
...I'm doing some work around my apartment and listening to the whole album beggining to end. Right now I'm on "Wasteland Warrior" and that's what made me think of Bizzy, dude just comes in on the track and brings it to a whole nother level.
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I just remembered that Wish Bone carries the whole track on "Get Your Thug On"... most people don't think of him as a solo artist, but he holds his own on this track. lol... maybe he stayed late in the studio that night after the other 3 had left.
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I really dug the smooth joints on this album like:
- It's all mo Thug
- It's all Real
- Hatin Nation
And 'If I could Teach the World' was another incredible track. Of course 'Thug Luv' is amazing, although at first I thought the gun shot effects were a bit over the top, but after a few auditions it really works well.
I got a 12" sealed copy, hope it's worth something one day! :)
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I got a 12" sealed copy, hope it's worth something one day! :)
I really think it will be. Because hip-hop is dying, so I think eventually all the good stuff from the 80's and 90's will become big time classics, and a the generations that come will also want to go back and check out the real stuff.
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great album, like people have already said bone really need to hook up with u-neek again
and thug luv is unquestionably a 10/10, a hidden gem in hip hop
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Definately one of the best double albums of all time. I still to this day take this out and bump it for a week straight. You can tell they recorded this right after E.1999 Eternal. Still has that same vibe to it.
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Definately one of the best double albums of all time. I still to this day take this out and bump it for a week straight. You can tell they recorded this right after E.1999 Eternal. Still has that same vibe to it.
I don't know about that. Because E. 99 came out two years before it. And they had split off and done the Mo Thugs project in the time in between. Also, each Bone album has it's own unique theme and vibe. For example, they were respondin back to groups that had success in 96 by copying the Bone style, groups like Crucial Conflict and Do Or Die.
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co-sign. Not their best album, but a dope one no doubt. Bone needs to get that sound back that they had with U-Neek.
No doubt.. the beats are bangin! They actually sound kind of like West Coast beats.
Also, let me remind everybody that 2pac's greatest guest appearance is on this album. "Thug Luv" is fire! Nobody can deny it's a 10!
Definitely up there with his best guest appearances. That song gave me chills the first time I heard it. What made it so dope was that 2pac did not go with a rapid flow on it. He just was spittin that raw shit. Other artists wanted to match Bone's flow and that quickly got played out.
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Definitely up there with his best guest appearances. That song gave me chills the first time I heard it. What made it so dope was that 2pac did not go with a rapid flow on it. He just was spittin that raw shit. Other artists wanted to match Bone's flow and that quickly got played out.
Well, I thought it was cool when Biggie used the Bone flow... but 2pac was a different style rapper, he wasn't out to impress people by saying, "Ohh, I'm the illest emcee" or whatever, he just said he wanted to be known as the "realest" rapper out there. And nobody can deny him that.
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yeah i luv this album..
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I don't see how anyone could be retarded enough to say this was 1997's best album (let alone the best DOUBLE) album in a year that saw the release of both "Life After Death" and "Wu Tang Forever".
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I don't see how anyone could be retarded enough to say this was 1997's best album (let alone the best DOUBLE) album in a year that saw the release of both "Life After Death" and "Wu Tang Forever".
LOL, yeah Life After Death is probably the greatest double album of all time. Art Of War is dope though but not on Biggie's level with that album.
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I don't see how anyone could be retarded enough to say this was 1997's best album (let alone the best DOUBLE) album in a year that saw the release of both "Life After Death" and "Wu Tang Forever".
I've listened to "Art of War" much more than "Life After Death". Don't get me wrong, "Life After Death" is a dope album, and Big is an ill emcee, but it goes without saying that everything Big did was over-rated, partly because he was the East Coast's savior.
And the Wu-Tang album had far too many filler tracks. "Art of War" has no filler. It deserved to be a double-album in the same way All Eyez On Me did.
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I just realized Bone never talked about women in any of their songs on their first 3 albums. That's refreshing because hip-hop is way over-saturated with either R&B rap as an excuse to sell records to women, or puttin 100 women in your video's in an attempt to appear more important. Bone just kept it real.
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I don't see how anyone could be retarded enough to say this was 1997's best album (let alone the best DOUBLE) album in a year that saw the release of both "Life After Death" and "Wu Tang Forever".
I've listened to "Art of War" much more than "Life After Death". Don't get me wrong, "Life After Death" is a dope album, and Big is an ill emcee, but it goes without saying that everything Big did was over-rated, partly because he was the East Coast's savior.
And the Wu-Tang album had far too many filler tracks. "Art of War" has no filler. It deserved to be a double-album in the same way All Eyez On Me did.
So you feel just as a emcee he is overrated or do you feel Life After Death as a album is overrated?
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So you feel just as a emcee he is overrated or do you feel Life After Death as a album is overrated?
Both.
I think as an emcee, he did have a great flow, but my problem was with the his lyrical content being played out. The same three subjects, drugs, sex, money, and violence. Not that I expected him to be a conscious rapper or anything like that, but Bone for example are not "conscious" either but I feel like their lyrical content and style was more original than other rappers in the game.
By the way, it wasn't an easy decision for me to say that "Art of War" was better than "Life After Death". Both are great albums.
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I don't see how anyone could be retarded enough to say this was 1997's best album (let alone the best DOUBLE) album in a year that saw the release of both "Life After Death" and "Wu Tang Forever".
LOL, yeah Life After Death is probably the greatest double album of all time. Art Of War is dope though but not on Biggie's level with that album.
Are we talkijg just hip hop???? Of all time then i wld say All eyez on me is the greates double but if you talkng every kind of music Use youre Illuison to me is the best
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I don't see how anyone could be retarded enough to say this was 1997's best album (let alone the best DOUBLE) album in a year that saw the release of both "Life After Death" and "Wu Tang Forever".
LOL, yeah Life After Death is probably the greatest double album of all time. Art Of War is dope though but not on Biggie's level with that album.
Are we talkijg just hip hop???? Of all time then i wld say All eyez on me is the greates double but if you talkng every kind of music Use youre Illuison to me is the best
Yeah just hip hop. I constantly change between Wu, Pac's and Biggie as the best.
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yup one of there best cds ever everfy single song is dope love this cd
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loved that Bone Thug cd!!!! but yeah Biggie's album was the best double cd released on that year!
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I thought the 1st disc was tight.
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Classic lp.everyone had a solo joint on here to. 8)
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change the world is one of my favorite bone songs. great album.
All Day Everyday by SCC is the best from 97 though.
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Classic lp.everyone had a solo joint on here to. 8)
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I think the album was real solid but def far from classic 8)
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In my opinion it would have been a great one CD album, 16-19 songs. There were a bunch of songs on the 2nd disc that I wasn't really feeling. It's a good album though, don't get me wrong.
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I've listened to "Art of War" much more than "Life After Death". Don't get me wrong, "Life After Death" is a dope album, and Big is an ill emcee, but it goes without saying that everything Big did was over-rated, partly because he was the East Coast's savior.
And the Wu-Tang album had far too many filler tracks. "Art of War" has no filler. It deserved to be a double-album in the same way All Eyez On Me did.
*BZZZZT* Wrong, cracker. First of all, you DON'T EVER fucking contradict me. Second, "Art of War" was VERY full of filler tracks. Especially compared to "Wu Tang Forever".
And Biggie is not overrated, especially since this is your justification...
I just realized Bone never talked about women in any of their songs on their first 3 albums. That's refreshing because hip-hop is way over-saturated with either R&B rap as an excuse to sell records to women, or puttin 100 women in your video's in an attempt to appear more important. Bone just kept it real.
I think as an emcee, he did have a great flow, but my problem was with the his lyrical content being played out. The same three subjects, drugs, sex, money, and violence. Not that I expected him to be a conscious rapper or anything like that, but Bone for example are not "conscious" either but I feel like their lyrical content and style was more original than other rappers in the game.
By the way, it wasn't an easy decision for me to say that "Art of War" was better than "Life After Death". Both are great albums.
Did you think before you spoke, or are you just being a dumbfuck Muslim as usual? You've basically just admitted the only difference between Bone and Biggie is that Bone settled for just violence and drugs instead of violence, drugs, and women. There was NOTHING more original about Bone's lyrical content, only their style. And your first comment is, of course, typical of crackers who want only think it's OK for rappers to talk about killing people, but heaven forbid they show an interest in women and thus indicate humanity (something Muslims dangerously lack), it's unacceptable.
Just face it, Brian, you're never going to be anything but another identity-challenged cracker who thinks he can fit in with us GODs. But Allah wants you dead, and I'm going to see to it that you pay the price for being retarded and contradicting somebody as important as myself.
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Few things:
I really like Art of War. Lots of dope music, but no doubt that there is filler on there. But I agree completely that it's Bone's last relevant work.
It's not better than Life After Death, and Wu Forever is an incredible album as well. For me personally, at the time when these were released, I listened to LOD the most, then AOW, then WF. But all were great albums regardless. But props for highlighting AOW, Bone was such an incredible group, completely unlike anything before them and they inspired lots of biters.
And for the record, I thought "Change The World" was wack. To me, it was contrived and an obvious ride off of "Tha Crossroads". I skip that joint 9 times outta 10.
Eihtball its good to see your black ass on this board. Theres some cats that need some game on this shit.
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You've basically just admitted the only difference between Bone and Biggie is that Bone settled for just violence and drugs instead of violence, drugs, and women. There was NOTHING more original about Bone's lyrical content, only their style.
Bone's content was unique, not only were they rare for never talking women in their raps, there content was also darker and more psychedelic. You have the talk of weiji boards and spirits and all that underworld type ish, not to mention they were from Cleveland which is another aspect that makes them unique in their content and presentation.
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You've basically just admitted the only difference between Bone and Biggie is that Bone settled for just violence and drugs instead of violence, drugs, and women. There was NOTHING more original about Bone's lyrical content, only their style.
Bone's content was unique, not only were they rare for never talking women in their raps, there content was also darker and more psychedelic. You have the talk of weiji boards and spirits and all that underworld type ish, not to mention they were from Cleveland which is another aspect that makes them unique in their content and presentation.
i agree with u harry
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Bone's content was unique, not only were they rare for never talking women in their raps, there content was also darker and more psychedelic. You have the talk of weiji boards and spirits and all that underworld type ish, not to mention they were from Cleveland which is another aspect that makes them unique in their content and presentation.
Talking about Mr. Ouija in skits does not count as "lyrical content". Three-6 Mafia also talked about that kinda shit in their earliest albums, which is why they later accused Bone of biting their style. Everything you've described characterizes their style, not "content". You obviously don't know what that term means.
I like Bone, but saying Biggie is overrated compared to them is retarded. Your only justification is that Biggie had tracks aimed at the women, and since you're a typical sexually unsure Muslim who sees women the same way that the Pashtun do, it figures your cracker ass would get upset with that. Besides, why the fuck are you contradicting me? Do you realize that contradicting my words can get your hands hacked off? NEVER disagree with the will of Allah (who prefers Biggie over Bone) and NEVER contradict me again. You submit to ME, Yakub Crew scum. *pimp-slaps the cracker*
RUF is the future! Fuck with us and we take your hands!
You've basically just admitted the only difference between Bone and Biggie is that Bone settled for just violence and drugs instead of violence, drugs, and women. There was NOTHING more original about Bone's lyrical content, only their style.
Bone's content was unique, not only were they rare for never talking women in their raps, there content was also darker and more psychedelic. You have the talk of weiji boards and spirits and all that underworld type ish, not to mention they were from Cleveland which is another aspect that makes them unique in their content and presentation.
i agree with u harry
Shut the fuck up, or I send one of my niggas to slice off your hands. RUF, bitch!
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Bone's content was unique, not only were they rare for never talking women in their raps, there content was also darker and more psychedelic. You have the talk of weiji boards and spirits and all that underworld type ish, not to mention they were from Cleveland which is another aspect that makes them unique in their content and presentation.
Talking about Mr. Ouija in skits does not count as "lyrical content". Three-6 Mafia also talked about that kinda shit in their earliest albums, which is why they later accused Bone of biting their style. Everything you've described characterizes their style, not "content". You obviously don't know what that term means.
I like Bone, but saying Biggie is overrated compared to them is retarded. Your only justification is that Biggie had tracks aimed at the women, and since you're a typical sexually unsure Muslim who sees women the same way that the Pashtun do, it figures your cracker ass would get upset with that. Besides, why the fuck are you contradicting me? Do you realize that contradicting my words can get your hands hacked off? NEVER disagree with the will of Allah (who prefers Biggie over Bone) and NEVER contradict me again. You submit to ME, Yakub Crew scum. *pimp-slaps the cracker*
RUF is the future! Fuck with us and we take your hands!
You've basically just admitted the only difference between Bone and Biggie is that Bone settled for just violence and drugs instead of violence, drugs, and women. There was NOTHING more original about Bone's lyrical content, only their style.
Bone's content was unique, not only were they rare for never talking women in their raps, there content was also darker and more psychedelic. You have the talk of weiji boards and spirits and all that underworld type ish, not to mention they were from Cleveland which is another aspect that makes them unique in their content and presentation.
i agree with u harry
Shut the fuck up, or I send one of my niggas to slice off your hands. RUF, bitch!
You are my second favorite gimmick on this board.
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I was a bit disappointed with it when it came out simply because I was expecting more COAC/E1999 type material but nowadays I can appreciate it. It really got me hyped for the solo albums by the individual members cause I liked each of the solo songs. Now Krayzie and Bizzy have both dropped very good albums, Layzie´s was a bit behind and Wish still (and probably never will) doesn´t have an album out - although I really liked his solo track.
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Bone Thugs were my favorite group when I started listening to rap. Art Of War is definitely a nice album, not a classic, and has a decent amount of filler. There are enough good songs to make up for it, and I still listen to it to this day. I prefer the first disc, the second disc sounded to disjointed. As for the best double album of all time, I would have to go with All Eyez On Me, and then it's a toss up after that.