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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: KURUPTION-81 on September 04, 2007, 08:47:53 AM
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I seriously think this is the most under rated MJ track there is. To me its a personal classic, heartfelt lyrics, dope piano, choir and a monstrous chorus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn32YTd90ZA
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I seriously think this is the most under rated MJ track there is. To me its a personal classic, heartfelt lyrics, dope piano, choir and a monstrous chorus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn32YTd90ZA
Michael jackson has the ability to modulate his vocie,eitehr down an octave or an octave higher, and blened in nicely on one track!!!
Dude is amamzing, IMO!!
This Track is Funny!!
the composition and Arragement are insane!!!!
prps On This!!!
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this thread is too easy to bust jokes about... i will pass and let y'all carry on a serious discussion...
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Free like MJ! Picture me rollin'!
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I never got into this, I thought he was tryin' to make it too much of another Thriller. But the song is still genius. He's one creative dude.
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I seriously think this is the most under rated MJ track there is. To me its a personal classic, heartfelt lyrics, dope piano, choir and a monstrous chorus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn32YTd90ZA
Michael jackson has the ability to modulate his vocie,eitehr down an octave or an octave higher, and blened in nicely on one track!!!
Dude is amamzing, IMO!!
This Track is Funny!!
the composition and Arragement are insane!!!!
prps On This!!!
yeah mj kills the composition and arrangement, he is a talented guy
solo and background vocals - michael jackson
vocal arrangement by michael jackson
produced by michael jackson, jimmy jam and terry lewis
mj doesent get enough credit for his production skills
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I seriously think this is the most under rated MJ track there is. To me its a personal classic, heartfelt lyrics, dope piano, choir and a monstrous chorus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn32YTd90ZA
Michael jackson has the ability to modulate his vocie,eitehr down an octave or an octave higher, and blened in nicely on one track!!!
Dude is amamzing, IMO!!
This Track is Funny!!
the composition and Arragement are insane!!!!
prps On This!!!
yeah mj kills the composition and arrangement, he is a talented guy
solo and background vocals - michael jackson
vocal arrangement by michael jackson
produced by michael jackson, jimmy jam and terry lewis
mj doesent get enough vredit for his production skills
^i agree 8)
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cause quincy produced his best shit!
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u r wrong..he produces half of tha songs on his albums alone..other songs with help from quincy anl later teddy and darkchild!
this is dope song..it's 10 years old...from tha movie ghosts...which is really underated...movie is crazy!
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this thread is too easy to bust jokes about... i will pass and let y'all carry on a serious discussion...
u can't bust jokes about a genius like MJ! only stupid and ignorant people do it! fuck tha media,tabloids and all tha haterz! without MJ there would be nothing today!! even hip hop!! he was the first black artist to come on MTV!! so u gotta respect that,and never forget who he was in tha 70's,80's and 90's...the kids don't know shit nowdays!....he was just too big...and when u r the biggest superstar in tha world,people wanna bring u down!
still to this day..he kills every track he does...all tha song are amazing!! and still soundin the same...everything he does its a classic...!don't know how he do it!
he turned 49 last week...so yea happy birthday! 8)
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LOL.... must....resist... temptation... to joke...
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LOL.... must....resist... temptation... to joke...
hah
+1
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Yeah, that's a great track. He never gets the respect he deserves for his voice. There is nobody alive that can sing on the level that Michael Jackson consistantly sings on. He can sing anything from a crazy falsetto down to a growling snarl up to a manic pop style voice and back down to a rolling background harmony. He's got everything Gerald Levert, James Brown, and Usher have in 1 song.
Most of his singles are pretty damn good but on every album there's songs that don't get released that are just a fucking clinic. "Keep The Faith" off of "Dangerous" is insane, he outsings a choir at the end of the song, the man's voice is just on another level and un-fuck-widdable.
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i think Michael is one of the greats vocally (and otherwise) too and probably the best but man I was listening to James brown the other day and I don't know that Michael necessarily has all that....couldn't see Michael pulling off "I don't know karate, but I do know ka-raaaazy!"
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Yeah, that's a great track. He never gets the respect he deserves for his voice. There is nobody alive that can sing on the level that Michael Jackson consistantly sings on. He can sing anything from a crazy falsetto down to a growling snarl up to a manic pop style voice and back down to a rolling background harmony. He's got everything Gerald Levert, James Brown, and Usher have in 1 song.
Most of his singles are pretty damn good but on every album there's songs that don't get released that are just a fucking clinic. "Keep The Faith" off of "Dangerous" is insane, he outsings a choir at the end of the song, the man's voice is just on another level and un-fuck-widdable.
yeah keep the faith is a great track, dangerous is a real good album also . The only tracks i dont really like are black and white and heal the world
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i think Michael is one of the greats vocally (and otherwise) too and probably the best but man I was listening to James brown the other day and I don't know that Michael necessarily has all that....couldn't see Michael pulling off "I don't know karate, but I do know ka-raaaazy!"
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James was first, and therefore superior for that in his style... but there's nothing James Brown has done that Michael Jackson can't do as well or better. Michael's whole style is a continuation of James Brown's vocal manner. "I Got That Feelin" is like the precurser to stuff like "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin" or "Bad".
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Yeah, that's a great track. He never gets the respect he deserves for his voice. There is nobody alive that can sing on the level that Michael Jackson consistantly sings on. He can sing anything from a crazy falsetto down to a growling snarl up to a manic pop style voice and back down to a rolling background harmony. He's got everything Gerald Levert, James Brown, and Usher have in 1 song.
Most of his singles are pretty damn good but on every album there's songs that don't get released that are just a fucking clinic. "Keep The Faith" off of "Dangerous" is insane, he outsings a choir at the end of the song, the man's voice is just on another level and un-fuck-widdable.
yeah keep the faith is a great track, dangerous is a real good album also . The only tracks i dont really like are black and white and heal the world
I like both of those too... there's interesting things on each track. The most interesting thing for me about Black or White is the obvious tongue and cheek reference to his changing skin tone, but also the more subtle things like how he turns the song into Heavy Metal towards the middle... (and rocks as hard as metallica) and then turns it into a rap song... so in the video he's got himself, a black guy dressed up like a white guy doing some heavy metal shit, and then it turns into Macaulay Culkin, a white kid doing a rap. The way he switches effortlessly from pop to heavy metal to hiphop in the same song is pretty impressive. The melody of the song is great too, very well written that hot guitar hook could be a classical piano sonata or something. Think about it.
Heal the World is pretty ballsy just from an ambition p.o.v., although the crying and shit gets old quick. Lyrically it's impressive though, "You know it's plain to see/this world is heavenly/ be god's glow"
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Yeah, that's a great track. He never gets the respect he deserves for his voice. There is nobody alive that can sing on the level that Michael Jackson consistantly sings on. He can sing anything from a crazy falsetto down to a growling snarl up to a manic pop style voice and back down to a rolling background harmony. He's got everything Gerald Levert, James Brown, and Usher have in 1 song.
Most of his singles are pretty damn good but on every album there's songs that don't get released that are just a fucking clinic. "Keep The Faith" off of "Dangerous" is insane, he outsings a choir at the end of the song, the man's voice is just on another level and un-fuck-widdable.
yeah keep the faith is a great track, dangerous is a real good album also . The only tracks i dont really like are black and white and heal the world
I guess what I was getting at is that James brown is like improvisational growls whereas Michael is verses you know? In that line of thinking, I'd compare James Brown to Robert Plant or the singer from Steppenwolf before MJ. You can sing along to/cover MJ kinda easily (though not necessarily well) whereas it'd be kinda trickier to cover/sing along with James brown
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james brown didn't have how to say..beautiful voice! he was cool...but he couldn't do like a real ballad u feel me?
james brown is :get up,a get on down...and mans world...stuff like that
while michael is everything!!! he sounds good if its rock,or pop,rap or dance...everything...
james brown is a godfather of soul...michael is the king of pop rock and soul!!
and i mean..mike started in late 60's...and later in tha 90s did a song with notorius big !!
i mean...who had number 1 album in 70's..and number 1 album in 2001? + doin the same with all of his albums! name me 1?? only MJ!
also he is the greatest dancer...and his videos...his concerts...he is the king of entertaiment!! nobody can come close...
u have good singers...but that's it..they are good singers...while mike is everything! hope he will do more movies in tha future also!
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Yeah, that's a great track. He never gets the respect he deserves for his voice. There is nobody alive that can sing on the level that Michael Jackson consistantly sings on. He can sing anything from a crazy falsetto down to a growling snarl up to a manic pop style voice and back down to a rolling background harmony. He's got everything Gerald Levert, James Brown, and Usher have in 1 song.
Most of his singles are pretty damn good but on every album there's songs that don't get released that are just a fucking clinic. "Keep The Faith" off of "Dangerous" is insane, he outsings a choir at the end of the song, the man's voice is just on another level and un-fuck-widdable.
yeah keep the faith is a great track, dangerous is a real good album also . The only tracks i dont really like are black and white and heal the world
I guess what I was getting at is that James brown is like improvisational growls whereas Michael is verses you know? In that line of thinking, I'd compare James Brown to Robert Plant or the singer from Steppenwolf before MJ. You can sing along to/cover MJ kinda easily (though not necessarily well) whereas it'd be kinda trickier to cover/sing along with James brown
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I don't think you've listened to much Michael Jackson, then. Michael's got verses in his songs, yes... but his trademark is that he does 'improvisational growls' just like James brown did. He screams, he says nonsense words like "Shamon" or whatever, he says shit like "YOU KNOW SHE DO!!!" in the background while he's singing, etc. He does everything James Brown does, because he learned it from James himself. Like half the shit he does is improvisational scat calls and things.
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James Brown can't sing a ballad? Listen to "Try Me"..... Many people owe their parents getting together because of that song....
Anyway... this is my first and last serious post in this thread.... lol.
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sure he can...but im talkin about his voice....! i don't see people and specially ladys crying when hearing his voice!!like they do it when michael sings!
check mj's : lady in my life..liberian girl...human nature..shes out of my life,goon to soon,...his voice...,it's just too beautiful!
u can't really compare james brown and michael...+ we all know james had a big influence on Mike...but mike has his own style!
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MJ is gangsta !!
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lol.... What decade are you living in? Girls don't scream for Michael like some sex symbol....at least not here in America.... he probably still has an overseas fanbase where they scream.... but here the only thing that goes wild for him are the paprazzi..... and you guys.. :)
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and James did make ladies go crazy.... and no you didn't see it because it was in the 60's with "Please, please, please".... before we were born... but at the Apollo Theatre in the early 60's in his prime, James was a symbol...
Now the James during our time? of course no ladies are going to scream for someone in their 70's....
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Yeah, that's a great track. He never gets the respect he deserves for his voice. There is nobody alive that can sing on the level that Michael Jackson consistantly sings on. He can sing anything from a crazy falsetto down to a growling snarl up to a manic pop style voice and back down to a rolling background harmony. He's got everything Gerald Levert, James Brown, and Usher have in 1 song.
Most of his singles are pretty damn good but on every album there's songs that don't get released that are just a fucking clinic. "Keep The Faith" off of "Dangerous" is insane, he outsings a choir at the end of the song, the man's voice is just on another level and un-fuck-widdable.
yeah keep the faith is a great track, dangerous is a real good album also . The only tracks i dont really like are black and white and heal the world
I like both of those too... there's interesting things on each track. The most interesting thing for me about Black or White is the obvious tongue and cheek reference to his changing skin tone, but also the more subtle things like how he turns the song into Heavy Metal towards the middle... (and rocks as hard as metallica) and then turns it into a rap song... so in the video he's got himself, a black guy dressed up like a white guy doing some heavy metal shit, and then it turns into Macaulay Culkin, a white kid doing a rap. The way he switches effortlessly from pop to heavy metal to hiphop in the same song is pretty impressive. The melody of the song is great too, very well written that hot guitar hook could be a classical piano sonata or something. Think about it.
Heal the World is pretty ballsy just from an ambition p.o.v., although the crying and shit gets old quick. Lyrically it's impressive though, "You know it's plain to see/this world is heavenly/ be god's glow"
yeah no doubt they are both interesting tracks especially the black and white vid but over exposure of the tracks have kinda killed them for me.
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LOL!...man michael has millions of fans worldwide (also in the usa) and bitchez they go from hotel to hotel, sleep outside ,travel all over the world just to see him for 5 seconds!!!and scream and cry and go crazy ..in 2007 also! and dude is almost 50 years old!!
u are ignorant man!!
and stop hatin!
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LMAO...not here dude.... he is a freak show and a side joke, especially with the ladies... the only one's that go crazy over him now are weirdos themselves...
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LMAO...not here dude.... he is a freak show and a side joke, especially with the ladies... the only one's that go crazy over him now are weirdos themselves...
this girl is pretty hot 2nd one and seems to like mj. You can guarentee she would have been more than happy to show him more than her piercing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRKJwAgsOys&mode=related&search=
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Trauma, he does do the improvisational growls (great example the fadeout on lady in my life) but his verses are not comprised of them like James'. I'm not saying one's doper, I'm just saying it's different.
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that doesn't mean that he is the sex symbol that he used to be when Thriller was out and before the weird ass freaky creepy version that we see today took over....
he's basically been run out of here..... by creditors, prosecutors and the public...
probably the only one's that miss him are Emmanuel Lewis, the chimp, and the weirdo die hard fans that have issues...
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that doesn't mean that he is the sex symbol that he used to be when Thriller was out and before the weird ass freaky creepy version that we see today took over....
he's basically been run out of here..... by creditors, prosecutors and the public...
probably the only one's that miss him are Emmanuel Lewis, the chimp, and the weirdo die hard fans that have issues...
the guy is hitting 50 he is obviously not gonna be the sex symbol he was but he still has many female fans who for some reason think he is a sex symbol.
You see recent clips of him in places and there are still girls screaming and chasing him and his car etc.
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he still has alot of money and is not really obese= many chicks would bang him. But I don't know about modern sex symbol.....
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thats why he stays in those parts of the world... here in the U.S. the majority of people see him for the freak that he is...
and he is.....
I'm a fan of Prince's earlier music but it doesn't bother me one bit when people call him out for his fruitish weird behavior... only wackos that are in love with the artists get offended...
Michael has made some good music in his life (especially with Off The Wall) but he is a kiddie touching Peter Pan fruitloop that is not the musical or popular force that he once was....
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well we don't know about what really went down, he's the ultimate hustle waiting to happen. if you could sue someone and make 100 mill, you might do it too regardless of if dude touched your kids or not you know?
but anyway, I am just attached to off the wall and thriller. anything else after his kid years I can live without.
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thats why he stays in those parts of the world... here in the U.S. the majority of people see him for the freak that he is...
and he is.....
I'm a fan of Prince's earlier music but it doesn't bother me one bit when people call him out for his fruitish weird behavior... only wackos that are in love with the artists get offended...
Michael has made some good music in his life (especially with Off The Wall) but he is a kiddie touching Peter Pan fruitloop that is not the musical or popular force that he once was....
mj might not be selling 50 million copies of one album anymore , but his last album in 2001 sold 8 million copies worldwide. Thats more than any rapper bar probably 50 cent, so if 50 cent sells 8 million copies he is a musical force but if mj sells the same he aint ?
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^ its only the ultimate hustle when kids sleep in your bed admittingly..... that alone right there puts a person in the weird freaky kiddie touching category...
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^ its only the ultimate hustle when kids sleep in your bed admittingly..... that alone right there puts a person in the weird freaky kiddie touching category...
well all I'm saying is we don't know what really went down.
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^ its only the ultimate hustle when kids sleep in your bed admittingly..... that alone right there puts a person in the weird freaky kiddie touching category...
^ its only the ultimate hustle when kids sleep in your bed admittingly..... that alone right there puts a person in the weird freaky kiddie touching category...
well all I'm saying is we don't know what really went down.
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at the end of the day the guy stood trial and was found not guilty
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there were out of court settlements, BUT those were private sessions. once more, we don't know what went down.
-T
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50 to 8 worldwide just shows the fall off even more...that is not a small drop...however...the majority of that has to be the non-american market where this creep still has adoring fans.
but hey.....if thats the kind of dude that you adore, then knock yourself out...
and T.... you are being very lenient with the whole "we don't know" stuff.... thats almost like saying that we don't know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa... :)
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50 to 8 worldwide just shows the fall off even more...that is not a small drop...however...the majority of that has to be the non-american market where this creep still has adoring fans.
but hey.....if thats the kind of dude that you adore, then knock yourself out...
and T.... you are being very lenient with the whole "we don't know" stuff.... thats almost like saying that we don't know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa... :)
or O.J.
;D
and hell yeah i'm lenient. I don't know him, you know? What right do I have?
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lol... well... not knowing someone is not exactly a case for leniency, but i understand your statement.. :)
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shut tha fuck up u idiot! didnt u say u gonna stop postin in this thread?????
oh u like prince?? how come on every album he did there are only 2 or 3 good songs!!???
there are MJ forums with 30.000 members and more...and u can see hundreds of ladys talkin about they wanna have his baby and he is th e most beautiful guy in the world...and what they would do to him
and everywhere he goes...they scream like crazy!!!in 2007!!!
u & your mama is a freak!! just coz u read so much tabloids u believe that shit!
and yea...usa...it only shows u how fucked up USA is...! what happned in 92 and 2003 can only happen in USA...coz of the fucked up people living in! only for the money and so much racism!!
mike has vitiligo...so he lost his pigmentation...and he changed his nose..and that's all...
and he looks kool!!! man show me your picture and ill show u MJ pictures and ill ask ladys how would they be with ?!!
fuckin idiot!
how weird is he??
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/Aardverk/mjsmile1.jpg)
(http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/17902/2001412771907688166_rs.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/shawn18_2006/beautiful6.jpg)
(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/14859/2006097293676190760_rs.jpg)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m211/CreativeForce06/BabyDoeEyes.jpg)
(http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/15054/2000454152915216616_rs.jpg)
(http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/16931/2000942057945233280_rs.jpg)
(http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/18632/2001811542298190046_rs.jpg)
and so on!
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50 to 8 worldwide just shows the fall off even more...that is not a small drop...however...the majority of that has to be the non-american market where this creep still has adoring fans.
but hey.....if thats the kind of dude that you adore, then knock yourself out...
and T.... you are being very lenient with the whole "we don't know" stuff.... thats almost like saying that we don't know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa... :)
if you were familiar with the details of both cases you'd agree that his innocence is pretty obvious. I'm not gonna go into it, there were threads about that before.
as far as his sales go, thriller had 20 years to sell 50 mill and he did not drop from that to 8, he had albums in between which didn't sell what thriller did cause that's the damn best sold album ever.
fact remains, his last album proved he's still more than relevant, being up there with today's most sucessful artists. saying he's a non-factor (except for the bad publicity) is therefore a misjudgement.
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LMAO.... are you Emmanuel Lewis?
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LMAO.... are you Emmanuel Lewis?
yea...how r u idiot??
there was no evidence in tha case so WTF?? NO evidence!!!!!!!!! ok???
man ,people like crooked i did support songs for him...and mentioned him manny times, guys like lil eazy e ,tha game and other mentioned him in songs in a positive way!!
only stupid ignorant people are hatin...
it's simple..if u don't like michael jackson u have problems! there must be somethin wrong with u...if u don't like his music and all tha entertaiment shit!!
what he doin in his personal life is none of our fuckin busines!!
so when r kelly pissing on 14 year old is ok?? fuck that...but his music is still dope!..+ michael is innocent!
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someone's got a crush on Michael... someone's got a crush on Michael.....
LMAO...
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nah man...i just grew up with his music...and i support and respect him coz he is the most talented guy in the world! and i like everythign he did!
+ he is the nicest person in the world,gave so much millions to charity and helped so manny children around the world...
just another example how fucked up this world is!
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just don't forget!!
https://www.youtube.com/v/tHimXGfwqt8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHimXGfwqt8)
and if u know the truth..the real story,his history...u can't help it, to have unconditional love for him!!
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please... there is a difference between respecting someone's work and getting your thong in a twist when someone insults the one you love...
you displayed the latter...lol...
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nah man!
the respect for michael is not tha same as respect for some rapper for example!! do u even know who is michael jackson??? i think u talkin about some other michael jackson! ..do u realize MJ is the biggest superstar in the world?? ever...?!!! u have hundreds of people changin their face to like like him,havin operations just to look like him!!
its just..when u dissin michael..it's like u dissin me! same with all the fans...if u dissin michael,u r dissin millions of people!and im not a fanatic...im just a fan (also coz i saw him live 3 times)...but when i see people dissin him...i don't like it!! coz they don't know tha facts!! the truth...they talkin about him,but none of them never took 1 hour time to really get to know the man,read a book or see some documentarys.
i guess 1 negative tabloid story is enough for them
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enough already...its 2007...a lot of yall aint kids no more...so if u don't like MJ by now..u will never like him...u don't even wanna know the real truth,coz u think u know it all!
"oh,mj's nose fell off"...and u believe that!!
we don't give a fuck about tha haters...its just funny how stupd ignorant and closed minded they are...
i blame tha media and tabloids 4 sho...but still...its tha people thataare stupid and believe this shit!
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lol.... do you really connect with him that much that when I diss him, that I am dissing you?
only a scorned lover feels that way....
There are plenty of artists who's work that i admire, that i can give a flying fuck if you diss them....
my diagnosis is that you have love/envy feelings for michael. you love it when he grabs his balls and goes "woooooooo".... and at the same time you envy that damn sequinced glove for being what you feel is lucky to touch the place that you so desire ..
Its going to take many hours of this therapy to cure you ...
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and he never sleept with that boy in tha bed..mike sleept on tha floor in tha sleeping bag! boy had cancer and mike saved him...and tha thankz he got is he almost went to jail!!
and what u just said...OMG...how old r u man??? who cares abous his glove and crotch ?? shit u really don't know what michael means for the music and entertainement!
anyway...my love for him is like am....coz i grew up with him (his music..it was all about mj when i was a kid)been with him through all his problems..i guess i have lika a father - son love! he is like my son...wisihing him all the best,don't want nothin bad to happen to him..would like to advice him what to do,help him..support him...
.and shit like that! hard to explain!!
no gay shit ...but it's like that!
LOL!
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arent u tha same fool who said NAS is the greatest mc ever LOL!
u a joke man!
thankz for entertainin me!
this my last post in this topic!
"PEACE"!!!!
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like a son to you?
that last paragraph was pathetic... c'mon dammit... Man up! let that male chromosome take over!
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like a son to you?
that last paragraph was pathetic... c'mon dammit... Man up! let that male chromosome take over!
LMAO
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I SAID I GUESS!!!NOT A REAL SON! but to explain to u a lil...what kind of love tha real fans have for him! there is somethin special in MJ ...he touches your heart...even when he speaks.!i dont know...there is nobody like him never was never will be!
also its not really if u diss him u diss me...but still somehow it effects me!
u should go to one of his concerts or talk with him...u would change your opinion...i was at tha dangerous and history tour..and saw him 1 time in london!
u see eddie griffin,eddie murphy chris tucker and others are real friends with MJ!and people like elizabeth taylor,marlon brando (rip),pavarotti (rip) bee gees, and so on... mike is an amazing person!and u have beyonce,missy all the rnb singers all bein fans and real supporters!
peace
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and speakin about james brown...check this..michael speakin at his funeral
https://www.youtube.com/v/jGbpRIbz4Zo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jGbpRIbz4Zo)
thers so much things yall don't know...but fuck it:)...
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and 1 mo thing...i dont care if u say oh i don't like MJ..i dont like his music...or he looks strange...its ok..your opinion!
but i hate it when yall say OH,HE IS A FREAK..WACKO and shit like that..don't do that!!
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Yo yo yo yo recognize187....I'm a big fan too man, and I agree I don't think he touched those kids (alot of the things he DID do were inappropriate and I think that's what caused alot of hubbub but I don't think he straight raped any kids)
but the whole reason Styles started going off on YOU is cause you dissed him and his mom and stuff in defense of MJ. Now arguing is cool, and disagreeing is cool but don't diss him and his mom and expect him to listen to you, you know?
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he don't know MJ...and he callin him a freak
i dont know styles and his mom and callin them a freak!
same shit ;) ;)
so he can see how does it feel when seomeone calls u a freak!
and since i read his posts...i can say he is a freak...and i guess he got a lot from his parents the way he was raised...so i gess his mama is also a freak!
LOL.. :D
+ he started!
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hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.... particularly when you diss her lover...
yo recognise? does Michael call you his PYT? :)
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sure..i'm his pyt tlc ! 8)
i knew u was a freak..startin that gay shit again!
i hate people like you..ignorant people with full of money,that never had any problems...never strugle...think u know everythin!bustin jokes ,makin fun of others!! u will get yours man...karma man!!
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i'm cool with both of you AND Michael. and with that, I'm out.
-T
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i'm cool with both of you AND Michael. and with that, I'm out.
-T
its all good man...im high right now so i got a lil emotional! and sice MJ is coming with his new album...i think its time to shut down tha haters!
peace
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Did not know he's dropping a new record, that's cool.
-T
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50 to 8 worldwide just shows the fall off even more...that is not a small drop...however...the majority of that has to be the non-american market where this creep still has adoring fans.
but hey.....if thats the kind of dude that you adore, then knock yourself out...
and T.... you are being very lenient with the whole "we don't know" stuff.... thats almost like saying that we don't know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa... :)
if you were familiar with the details of both cases you'd agree that his innocence is pretty obvious. I'm not gonna go into it, there were threads about that before.
as far as his sales go, thriller had 20 years to sell 50 mill and he did not drop from that to 8, he had albums in between which didn't sell what thriller did cause that's the damn best sold album ever.
fact remains, his last album proved he's still more than relevant, being up there with today's most sucessful artists. saying he's a non-factor (except for the bad publicity) is therefore a misjudgement.
Yeah, I agree. Anybody that thinks Michael Jackson is a child molestor knows nothing about the cases and knows nothing about Child Molestors. To molest a child is a pretty base primal deed, child molestors have simple minds that are easily understood and you can classify child molestors, you can spot one from a mile away because they have a pattern and they all do similar, base, simple immature (evil) things. Take for instance the soccer coach who you find out later has molested 20 people on the team. Michael Jackson has had 10 million kids come to his house and 3 have said he did something. Come on. that doesn't fit the mold of a child molester.
Most telling is that Michael has been married twice, and divorced twice. Both ex-wives have went on record saying that he's not a child molestor, just an asshole. If his own ex-wife doesn't think he did it, then chances are there's no way he did it because they're both just LOOKING for a reason to talk shit about him.
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all good T.... I a just having fun bombing on this fruitloop....lol...
tsk tsk at a grown man catching feelings over michael jackson... ha ha ha ha ha...
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^ its only the ultimate hustle when kids sleep in your bed admittingly..... that alone right there puts a person in the weird freaky kiddie touching category...
^ its only the ultimate hustle when kids sleep in your bed admittingly..... that alone right there puts a person in the weird freaky kiddie touching category...
well all I'm saying is we don't know what really went down.
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at the end of the day the guy stood trial and was found not guilty
And there you go.
Plus if you followed the case, it was all a hot minute pointless mess.
Like the kidd said MJ forums are packed wit fans, girls to the max, way over 30,000 heads. People can criticize Michael Jackson for days but that doesn't take away from his talent or what he does for the world itself. What was it like he donated more than 50 million dollars to charity over the years. I'm sure it's madd more now, how the hell you gonna disrespect that it. He's got love for everybody, love for life, spreading from human life itself to nature. Dude's got a heart and a soul full of fuckin' talent. He's fuckin' on top of the world as far as music, of course dude's gonna be brought up in every lil bullshit thang. But you can't deny his talent, like, at all.
And Tangibility, you ever found the Michael Jackson song Biggie sampled??
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i don't agree with you guys and in my eyes there is more than enough to find him guilty.... plus there was alot hidden in the settlements... however having kids sleep in his bed is creepy enough and if you guys don't find that hideous than I don't know what to say about you all....
nevertheless.... at least you guys didn't get sore assed like that other dude did and kept it cool. I can at least respect that... I find your behavior strange ...but I can respect it.
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i gotta agree with styles about MJ
No need to catch feelings !
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once again!! mike sleept on tha flloor in tha sleeping bag!!! not with tha kid!kid was in bed...
he has his own children!!!3 of them....!!!!
how can u find him guilty when there was no evidence ! OMG...and the same guy tom sneddon failed in 93 and failed again...michael did a song against him called DS on history album!and that family had the history of lies!! its all about gettin money from MJ..and racism..all connected with sony and tomy motola!! u dont know tha facts and tha truth!!! michael was framed...even a blind kid can see this!!! just coz he helped kids and all don't make him a pedophile!!!michael is an easy target 4 sure,but he is innocent!! do u think he would molest that kid and then put him live on tv in his interview?????WTF, OMG!
mike been around kids since he was a kid..and never stopped...coz they act normal,they dont see him as a big star and scream ang go all crazy,he can talk normal with them,and they are innocent and tell the truth..same way he likes animals..the don't judge u!the love for children is pure and innocent!!
+ adults let him down,kids never let him down!
some people are stupid 4 real! styles just coz u are a pedophile and u like that gay shit doesn't mean michael is the same!
and u can say what u want...mike is free as a bird...there was no evidence...so u can say he guilty,but if u at least know a little bit about mike,u can see he is innocent!
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LMAO.... still crying over your butt buddy getting dissed you pussy? Go back to wacking off over that wacko...
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it's not only u and me readin this topic u idiot!!! what i wrote is not only 4 u..but 4 all tha haters...and 4 ignorant people who judge someone,and don't even know nothin about him!...i don't reply only 4 u!
im not crying..its real talk what i wrote,reality,facts...the way it is...it's you who is crying and dissin MJ!
get it???
i told u u gonna get yours homie...might go down tonight when u go out...somethin might happen to u! people like me and a few others have that power homie...4 real..i gonna miss u!
;) :D 8) 8)
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you mentioned my name you retarded limp wristed faggot...
lol @ saying that I am going to get it.... I MUST have made you cry for you to take it there....
ha ha ha ha ha ha... this homo shed tears over this..
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be happy that i warned u...that u gonna get it...i could be quiet...i gonna miss u!
and dont call me faggot ,coZ we all know u r gay!!
stop replyin...COZ IN MJ THREAD...BELIEVE ME,I GONNA HAVE THA LAST POST!
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... I MUST have made you cry for you to take it there....
LOL... there are a lot of haters...i dont give a fuck about what they think...but if they talk negative and lies and some bullshit..im always here for michael..TO SPEAK THA TRUTH...!!
i don't take it personal like u do ...but its a PUBLIC FORUM..a lot people ..also kids readin tha forum...SO I GOTTA SAY WHAT I GOTTA SAY ABOUT MJ!
i can't let people like u talkin he is a pedophile and a freak and so on...COZ HE IS NOT! even when he was 6 years old.all tha money he got he bought candy for all the kids in tha street! he is a saint! so stop dissin !
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don't cry.... dry your eyes.... here comes michael with those two little guys.... lol
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LMAO that was good.
anyway, I will be the first to say he has been inappropriate with children due to his strange upbringing/somewhat skewed sense of propriety but I don't think he straight raped some kids. taking a bath/having a sleepover because you feel like a little kid is somewhat mentally....off/inappropriate (and that inappropriateness I think, is why there was settlement money)but does not equal or mean "child rapist"
-T
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Why do you all have to be ugly towards one another? You all have different views of Michael Jackson. Okay. There's no need to attack one another because of it. If you wish people to respect your point of view, Don't insult them. That doesn't get anybody anywhere.
People keep talkin' about the settlement issue instead of the fact that a jury voted "Not Guilty" 14 times for Michael Jackson to go free.
I think it's so easy to judge a situation from the outside instead of looking at what was happening at the time and what Michael Jackson may or may not have been thinking. The world was on a witch hunt for him. The man was doped up on Pain killers most of the time..(Until he went to rehab for that problem) Who knows what advice he was being given? People say "Why did you pay the money,Michael?" My question is : " Why did the accusers take the money and run?" Cause I'll tell you now, If anybody touched MY child,I'd want to see them dead or locked up for a long time. They wouldn't have enough money in the world for me.
Another thing about the current accuser, who admitted to lying on the stand for his mother in a J.C Penny lawsuit in order for her to get money from them, changed their story about five different times. He lies about something that important before.. but Now, We're supposed to believe him simply because it's Michael Jackson in the defendant's chair? I don't think so. I think that alone gives enough reasonable doubt.
Finally, I think if anything,Michael deserves the benefit of a doubt. We spend so much time tearing people down in this world and not enough time lifting them up. Just take one look at this thread and how you've torn all of each other apart.
It's time to come together and change for the better.
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Why do you all have to be ugly towards one another? You all have different views of Michael Jackson. Okay. There's no need to attack one another because of it. If you wish people to respect your point of view, Don't insult them. That doesn't get anybody anywhere.
People keep talkin' about the settlement issue instead of the fact that a jury voted "Not Guilty" 14 times for Michael Jackson to go free.
I think it's so easy to judge a situation from the outside instead of looking at what was happening at the time and what Michael Jackson may or may not have been thinking. The world was on a witch hunt for him. The man was doped up on Pain killers most of the time..(Until he went to rehab for that problem) Who knows what advice he was being given? People say "Why did you pay the money,Michael?" My question is : " Why did the accusers take the money and run?" Cause I'll tell you now, If anybody touched MY child,I'd want to see them dead or locked up for a long time. They wouldn't have enough money in the world for me.
Another thing about the current accuser, who admitted to lying on the stand for his mother in a J.C Penny lawsuit in order for her to get money from them, changed their story about five different times. He lies about something that important before.. but Now, We're supposed to believe him simply because it's Michael Jackson in the defendant's chair? I don't think so. I think that alone gives enough reasonable doubt.
Finally, I think if anything,Michael deserves the benefit of a doubt. We spend so much time tearing people down in this world and not enough time lifting them up. Just take one look at this thread and how you've torn all of each other apart.
It's time to come together and change for the better.
Word. +1
-T
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if you love the melting face weirdo, then go ahead.... i started bombing once the michael stan took my issues with the kiddie lover personally and attacked me...
you notice i didn't attack anybody else... i didn't agree and still don't but I didn't attack them...
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Styles,It really doesn't matter WHO started it. What matters is that someone finish it. You have your point of view on Michael Jackson, and Nothing is gonna change that. That's YOUR business. Again, I'll say We spend enough time tearing down people and judging them on situations that we ourselves may not understand.
It's time to begin again. To start off new and to start tryin' to be positive towards our ourselves, our communities.. and Yes, Even our celebrities. If we don't do it now, Who will? There is so much hatred in the world already.
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Why do you all have to be ugly towards one another? You all have different views of Michael Jackson. Okay. There's no need to attack one another because of it. If you wish people to respect your point of view, Don't insult them. That doesn't get anybody anywhere.
People keep talkin' about the settlement issue instead of the fact that a jury voted "Not Guilty" 14 times for Michael Jackson to go free.
I think it's so easy to judge a situation from the outside instead of looking at what was happening at the time and what Michael Jackson may or may not have been thinking. The world was on a witch hunt for him. The man was doped up on Pain killers most of the time..(Until he went to rehab for that problem) Who knows what advice he was being given? People say "Why did you pay the money,Michael?" My question is : " Why did the accusers take the money and run?" Cause I'll tell you now, If anybody touched MY child,I'd want to see them dead or locked up for a long time. They wouldn't have enough money in the world for me.
Another thing about the current accuser, who admitted to lying on the stand for his mother in a J.C Penny lawsuit in order for her to get money from them, changed their story about five different times. He lies about something that important before.. but Now, We're supposed to believe him simply because it's Michael Jackson in the defendant's chair? I don't think so. I think that alone gives enough reasonable doubt.
Finally, I think if anything,Michael deserves the benefit of a doubt. We spend so much time tearing people down in this world and not enough time lifting them up. Just take one look at this thread and how you've torn all of each other apart.
It's time to come together and change for the better.
Word. +1
-T
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lol.... keep your fellow jackson-ite in line ... you guys follow the same peace, love and harmony stuff...
i will keep it cool with whoever... but don't expect me to join in your "we are the world" choir... :)
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Styles... Darn. I was hoping to make you one of the lead singers in the choir. ;) Can you sing? Do you get into music? What type of music do you like?
:)
Oh yeah.. and My Heal The World attitude comes less from Michael and more from my medically fragile daughter, who is nine. She has a very bad heart and has almost died on me several times. She's doing great now though. When I think of her and how innocent she is.. how she keeps on fighting and living even when she was near death's door... I just wish the world was better for her.. That people are kinder to one another.
So,I try to be kind.
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I can dig that.....
Just please keep the little beautiful rose away from Neverland.. :)
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I don't think Michael lives at Neverland anymore. He barely lived there anyway.
C'mon.. Humor me.. What's your favorite song in the whole world?
I'm askin' cause I like all styles of music. Not only MJ.
Oh yeah.. and Who do you think is gonna win the rap battle between Kanye and 50 cent on BET Tuesday Night?
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and attacked me...
you notice i didn't attack anybody else... i didn't agree and still don't but I didn't attack them...
oh cry me a river u lil bitch! enough of tha off topic already...topic is about michaels song IS IT SCARY!!
fuck u and your raptalk.net...no more interviews 4 u believe me...i have connections! people will start ignoring u ..starting NOW!
peace
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back for more you little twat?
i take it you must have finished your noon "beat off to beat it" sessions...
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go and mastrubate to bishop lamonts picture 8)...oh i mean to NAS :D
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oh cry me a river u lil bitch! enough of tha off topic already...topic is about michaels song IS IT SCARY!!
fuck u and your raptalk.net...no more interviews 4 u believe me...i have connections! people will start ignoring u ..starting NOW!
peace
shut the fuck up fool. he dont like MJ get the fuck over it. you gonna shut down raptalk lol...connections lmao
what you gonna throw clogs at the windmill and shut down the wind power that runs raptalk server from your base in holland???
me and styles gonna be doin it big out here in Cali watch out for that!!!
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oh..so u are his boyfriend?! HAHA..how long u 2 been together ?? yea u 2 will be doin it..doin it and doint it...big..and listenin to NAS while doin it...a little bump and grind! so u will record a sex tape also?? i wont watch it sorry..i only like bitchez!
HAHA!
and i didnt say i gonna shut it down..i said people will ignore him..so next time he wants to do tha interview they wont do it!
READ WHAT IT WRITE FOOL!
i think styles need to get tha fuck over that i like MJ!
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lmao at this peter pan fruitcake... go .look for a man in the mirror" if you can find one ...
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lmao at this peter pan fruitcake... go .look for a man in the mirror" if you can find one ...
say what u say homie but i murdered u! 5:0 for me :) 8)...specially now on the end with your boyfriend LOOOOLSZ!!
my job here is done!!
PEACE
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lol.... dude how does it feel knowing that you are a grown man that cries over michael jackson like a little girl?
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u are the one crying homie! i just said some positive shit and the truth about MJ coz i don't like when people dissin him!
and im only 23 man...dont see myself as a grown ass man...dont like that shit!
+ u dont even know who tha fuck i am!! my album just came out,i havea hip hop radio show,doin interviews also...1 coming soon with ice-t!,.u can find me on eazy e cpt,tha SHACK,and shit like that!!just check my nickname!!...so watch your mouth! coz u started that shit!!
AND IM OUT!
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lmao at this peter pan fruitcake... go .look for a man in the mirror" if you can find one ...
say what u say homie but i murdered u! 5:0 for me :) 8)...specially now on the end with your boyfriend LOOOOLSZ!!
my job here is done!!
PEACE
only thing you murdered homie was the english language!!!
while you're wood working and carving a pinocchio type of MJ in your lilttle villa, styles is holding it down for the westcoast bringing the fans exclusive news from the hip hop world and doing it for years
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LOL... man i don't give a fuck what you say you do... all I know is that you cry over MJ ... You probably tear up over "she's out of my life"....
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lol..how come u know every MJ song and peter pan shit and neveralnd and everything??
to me it looks like u were a fan!
u dont care what i do?...i just wanted to let u know that im doin tha same shit u doin + better and more shit...i also organized concerts and shit...have my own forum...+ im the only guy in europe that supports tha west coast music on tha radio,and also my album sounds real west coast!!
what u do in your life??
and ENOUGH!!! do u understand what it means ...?ENOUGH?
let it go...this thread is about is it scary and we are talkin a bout my radio show ...lolsz
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lmao at this peter pan fruitcake... go .look for a man in the mirror" if you can find one ...
say what u say homie but i murdered u! 5:0 for me :) 8)...specially now on the end with your boyfriend LOOOOLSZ!!
my job here is done!!
PEACE
only thing you murdered homie was the english language!!!
while you're wood working and carving a pinocchio type of MJ in your lilttle villa, styles is holding it down for the westcoast bringing the fans exclusive news from the hip hop world and doing it for years
yea?? same styles who said NAS is better than everybody from tha west coast?? fuck styles...and fuck u too!!exclusive shit my ass ! dubcnn > raptalk!
recognize187>raptalk
lets stop about MJ..lets talk about hip hop..u fools were probably listenin to some gay ass shit in tha 90's never even heard about tha artists u r interviewing and bringin tha news now
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i am a music person... i know about all kinds.... but I don't attach myself to artists like you do... seek psychiatric help....
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same here...from MJ to tha most underground mc from tha cpt!
and i told u...there is somethin special with MJ...why u think he has so much fans all around the world ??i can't help it...i just love MJ
..i dont need help coz of that!its nothin wrong with that...believe me!
and i aint got time 4 this shit...so realy..this time i mean it...IM OUT 8)
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recognize, like i said i'm cool with you but stating Nas as one of the dopest MCs is a perfectly valid thing to do. and I love WC rap alot more than most hip hop but I can acknowledge nas' status as one of the best.
-T
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this was fun.... and quite sad, because there is no artist that i would get that jumpy over...lol.. that was just as bad as those folks from the church of the 2Pacalytes that run around the net...
MJ must do some backward masking in his songs that allow him control over people...
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*Sigh
ENOUGH OF THIS!!! Recognize this,Recognize.. People are entitled to their own opinion. It may not be to your liking. It may hurt you, but You're gonna have to learn to deal with the fact that there will always be some people in this world who thinks Michael Jackson is guilty.. Including some of his own fans! I know that statement may suprise you, but You should have been around for the trial thread when people posted things on the KOP board like "How many people think MJ's is guilty, but love his talent anyway?" Insulting people and talking down to them is not going to make them change their minds. Instead, It makes them angry. Besides that, I don't see Michael Jackson anywhere in this thread getting all upset. He has a mouth. He can defend himself if he wishes to. You can't be his savior.
Like I said.. We've spent so much time tearing people down and not enough time lifting people up. If you really wish to follow MJ's example, Seek peace instead of hate.
Also, Anytime anybody brings up Michael Jackson, I almost GUARENTEE The topic will NOT stay on his music. That's living in fantasyland.
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MJ touches children.
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Your proof of that, Bundy?
Oh.. You weren't there? AAAND You don't really have any proof??
Hmmm.. Okay..
Case closed
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I touch children.
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That's not even funny,Bundy.
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It sure isn't. I hate wiping their ass for them.
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Your proof of that, Bundy?
Oh.. You weren't there? AAAND You don't really have any proof??
Hmmm.. Okay..
Case closed
Your proof that the world trade center had a plane go through it?
Oh.. You wern't there?
Hmm... Okay..
Case closed
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LMAO that was good.
anyway, I will be the first to say he has been inappropriate with children due to his strange upbringing/somewhat skewed sense of propriety but I don't think he straight raped some kids. taking a bath/having a sleepover because you feel like a little kid is somewhat mentally....off/inappropriate (and that inappropriateness I think, is why there was settlement money)but does not equal or mean "child rapist"
-T
Yeah I agree, and I think that's the scenario. As for 'Settlement money', though, there were 2 out of court settlements, and both had nothing to do with Michael doing anything innapropriate, they were both because he was advised by lawyers it would make the problem go away. I'm not positive if his lawyers believed he was innocent or not, but Johnny Shapiro and Pepsi, lol, told him to make the one 'famous' case go away, and there was another unreported case that was just fucking ludicrious where he paid a maid of his a small amount of money to not press charges. She said he molested her son by patting the kid on the ass in front of her, in his foyer when the kid came over to work with her one day. Like he's going to molest a kid right in front of the kid's mom, smacking a kid on the ass doesn't mean you're a pervert, people do that all the time with little children.
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LMAO that was good.
anyway, I will be the first to say he has been inappropriate with children due to his strange upbringing/somewhat skewed sense of propriety but I don't think he straight raped some kids. taking a bath/having a sleepover because you feel like a little kid is somewhat mentally....off/inappropriate (and that inappropriateness I think, is why there was settlement money)but does not equal or mean "child rapist"
-T
Yeah I agree, and I think that's the scenario. As for 'Settlement money', though, there were 2 out of court settlements, and both had nothing to do with Michael doing anything innapropriate, they were both because he was advised by lawyers it would make the problem go away. I'm not positive if his lawyers believed he was innocent or not, but Johnny Shapiro and Pepsi, lol, told him to make the one 'famous' case go away, and there was another unreported case that was just fucking ludicrious where he paid a maid of his a small amount of money to not press charges. She said he molested her son by patting the kid on the ass in front of her, in his foyer when the kid came over to work with her one day. Like he's going to molest a kid right in front of the kid's mom, smacking a kid on the ass doesn't mean you're a pervert, people do that all the time with little children.
didn't know all that. but yeah my basic thought remains: if you were the most succesful performer of your generation you'd have motherfuckers comin' out the woodwork to hustle you.
-T
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dude i smoke too much to read that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfHgrIkPo3w
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great song from the vocals 2 the music
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Robot Chicken - Michael Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/v/Wj-fDH0zg74&hl=en&fs=1
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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the original tracks off the blood on the dance floor lp were FIRE 8)