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Title: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 19, 2001, 07:47:28 AM
In a recent radio show here in tha bay E40 said he aint happy wit snoop puttin all tha bay area slangs dat E40 and his sickwidit crew made out and callin it his own. But he didn't go into detail about his anger, cause he changed tha subject rit after.

He's right in my opinion, I have every E40 album and snoop is bitin hella shit from him and not givin any props to him.
Examples: Pleezbalevit, whats cracalakin',  vibelization, iluvit, pop ya collar, just 2 name a few.


 
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 19, 2001, 07:50:56 AM
i agree. i dont mind if he bites the shit but then he comes out and says he dont bite and its all his.

that could turn into a real beef too. Snoop apparently was mad at 40 water and the click after they beat Mac Ministas ass at the source awards.

i hope it all gets squashed, we dont need any more beef.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: oasisgnr on July 19, 2001, 07:59:05 AM
E-40 should worry about his lack of lyrical flow.  That is a much bigger problem than Snoop  bitin his slanguage :)
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Trauma-san on July 19, 2001, 08:08:58 AM
MTV Interviewed Snoop Late Last Year, And He Said E-40 Was Tight, So I Don't Think There's A Beef On His Part.

Plus, I've Never Seen Snoop Say He Made All That Slanguage Up.

PLUS, Explain To Me, How When Snoop Was Puttin' "Izzay's" In All His Words In '93, He Was Rippin E-40 Off?  He Probably Didn't Even Know About E-40 Then...

Lots Of Those Words Come Straight Off The Streets.  I'm Sure Snoop Rips E-40 A Ton, Pleezbalievit, What's Crackilatin', Etc., But I Think A Bunch Come Off The Streetz.  I Use Snoop's Language, But I Don't Consider It Rippin' Him Off...
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: C_R_O_N_I_C_I on July 19, 2001, 08:08:58 AM
i agree with u oasisgnr. :) 8) :o
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: C_R_O_N_I_C_I on July 19, 2001, 08:11:09 AM
Snoop:
This niggaz gonna crap out, watch
Cough!
Suge this niggaz gonna crap out, watch

Death Row is bitches
They just snitches

Death Row is bitches
They just snitches

Death Row is bitches
They just snitches

Death Row is bitches
They just snitches

I'm a death row killa
My hat stay still a
My bud is orange
And my drink is miller
I pilla
Killa like a killa flick
Lil C Style fuckin with tha DPG
Top Dogg, Big Dogg, Whateva y'all
Suge Knight sure your company's in tha fog
Simon say you'll neva see the streets again
And if homies catch you slippin there gonna stick in
Cuz, nigga, I'm trippin right now
We crippin right now
We dippin right now
All that money I made ya
You're major, I made ya
Nigga, now I gotta fade ya
Payin no attention when u got a suspension
Now I'm on a mission
Dogg paw intuition
And while you homies in the pen straight snitchin,
they gonna get it
While I'm in the dogg house cookin in the kitchen

Snoop Chorus:
Death Row is bitches
Supposed to be gangstas
You niggaz just snitchin

Death Row is snitches
Supposed to be gangstas
The niggaz straight bitchin

Death Row is snitches
Supposed to be gangstas
You niggaz is bitchez

Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa
Fuck Death Row

unknown rapper (Goldie Loc??):
How the fuck you gonna diss Snoop Dogg
To a Topp Dogg
The niggaz snitchin like that Doggy izog
You know i read it in the paper
Damn I thought Suge was a gangsta (Snoop: Hell No!)
He cant survive tryin to dick a nigga
And thats for real
We come from the city thats gonna keep it real
Tha gangsta beatz, long beach
Give a fuck about peace
With homies bangin' in the pen
And banging on the streetz
Keep my heat right were I can see
Ridin' though your city with my strap on my seat.
Fuck Police
This is east side long beach
Like biggie smalls said they don't really want beef
You know when your moms aint safe to walk through the streets
My nigga plays 4 keeps
And thats on the beach
2Pac rest in peace


Snoop: And thats a cold fact
Surrounded by niggaz but now mutha fuckaz down to waste your back.


Chorus
Death Row is bitches
Wanna be gangstas
Them niggaz just snitches

Death Row is bitches
Wanna be gangstas
Them niggaz is snitches

Death Row is snitches
Supposed to be gangstas
Them niggaz is bitches

Death Row is snitches (Killa)
Supposed to be gangstas
Fuck all yall

Snoop:
Quit that LBC like
That DPG like
Death Row 187 4 life
Now what up
I nut up & cut up
Nigga shut up or get wet up
Let a funny ass get off ground
Funny figure throwin up
Whole hood blowin up
Nigga dissrespect me
Nigga u cant check me
I aint your lil homie
I'm the double o g
I come twice as nice as knight got trial
I got dick for you and your mutha fuckin wife
Miss Knight
My life aint worth losin
While ridin shotgun young dumb crusin' snoozin'
Niggaz put my nigga 2Pac in the mix
Had him fuckin with some real OG shit
That nigga didnt know what he was gettin into
Had him caught up in the middle while you fuckin with his revenues.

Chorus:
Death Row is bitches
Wanna be gangstas
U niggaz just snitches

Death Row is bitches
Supposed be gangstas
Them niggaz is snitches

Death Row is snitches
Supposed to be gangstas
Them niggaz is bitches

Death Row is snitches
(Killa)
Supposed to be gangstas
(Death Row Killa)
Fuck all yall
(Death Row Killa)

Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa
Death Row Killa

Now I see yall niggaz tryin to put somebody tryin to talk about me
Nigga i started yall
How the fuck u gonna put out somebody dissrespect the dogg nigga
Slap yourself
Slap your mutha fuckin self
Record sideballs get your bitch ass knocked out DOGGHOUSE RECORDS
Yeah
If its on its on
Oh yeah
This is protected
By the blue the gray &
By the green
With the key
Beyatch
hahahahhaha yeah
crips crips crips crips crips crips
;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) :o
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big FC on July 19, 2001, 08:20:50 AM
isnt' the unknown rapper Lil C Style....???
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 19, 2001, 08:28:27 AM

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isnt' the unknown rapper Lil C Style....


yea it is
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Nosak on July 19, 2001, 08:36:04 AM

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Puttin' "Izzay's" In All His Words In '93, He Was Rippin E-40 Off?  He Probably Didn't Even Know About E-40 Then...((((( ha ha ha true , very true dogg)))))

Lots Of Those Words Come Straight Off The Streets.  I'm Sure Snoop Rips E-40 A Ton, Pleezbalievit, What's Crackilatin'((((did he change it for what's cripalate or some)))), Etc., But I Think A Bunch Come Off The Streetz.  I Use Snoop's Language, But I Don't Consider It Rippin' Him Off...
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big BpG on July 19, 2001, 08:37:39 AM
Back to E-40...... this is just words on tha streets... its not soley located in the Bay Area... your going to hear it everywhere... hell Snoop makes up his slang and we got rappers biting him, so why not get mad at them?? BECAUSE THEY AINT ON TOP LIKE THE D O DOUBLE G... oh boy!

-bpg
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 19, 2001, 08:44:28 AM
lol some of you guys would get clowned for weeks over on BART for this shit.

its cool to support Snoop, im a huge fan too like most people in here, but I can at least recognize when he fucks up. please believe that! lol
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big BpG on July 19, 2001, 09:04:58 AM
No, but I'm serious... the real reason they are mad is because Snoop is in the spotlight, when he writes a rhyme people hear ... but if some underground rapper spits it, E40 could care less... but Snoop is above E40 ... who is the worst rapper I've ever heard.
So Snoop gets recognition for the words

-bpg
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Trauma-san on July 19, 2001, 09:20:32 AM
I Agree... E-40 Has Mac Minister Disease... They Both Can Make Up Creative Words And Sh*t, But Come On... E-40 Will Never Be Considered Tight, Although I Guess It's Opinion... That Doubletime DoubleTracked Vocals He Does Are His Signature, But It Sounds Like Shit, umm... "Pleezbalievit".

Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big BpG on July 19, 2001, 09:22:00 AM
Trauma... if some has the opinion that E40 is tight... well then they have mac minista disease.....
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: techniec on July 19, 2001, 09:27:33 AM
wait, this is wierd

snoop, in the new source, was talkin about how at the source awards when he saw mac minista fighting, he pulled out his strap, but mac was dueling wit the sic wid it crew, so was those 2 crews matching up?
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: techniec on July 19, 2001, 09:28:16 AM
wait, this is wierd

snoop, in the new source, was talkin about how at the source awards when he saw mac minista fighting, he pulled out his strap, but mac was dueling wit the sic wid it crew, so was those 2 crews matching up?
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 19, 2001, 10:42:49 AM
OMG! E40 is one of the most respected rappers out west. him among others started the whole independent selling out your truck mentality. he has put out great music for years. obviously you've never listened to In A Major Way, that album is off the chain. i understand if you dont feel 40, thats cool, but to just say he'll 'never be considered tight' is absolute bullshit. i mean, he sells near gold on every album.

Thats some weak shit. like i said, i love Snoop and all, but im not going to disrespect  someone who's been putting it down for years and is highly respected just cuz Snoop may or may not have funk with him.

thats some groupie shit, im disappointed with that opinion, really.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Nosak on July 19, 2001, 10:52:56 AM

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..i mean, he sells near gold on every album.


snoop's album always had more than platinum,,, lol  , i don't dissrespect  e-40 but i don't like his voice and his flow, but the lyric are tight, i just don't like the two others ::)
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 19, 2001, 10:58:48 AM
yea like i said, its cool if you just aint feelin him. but to come out with those haterizms people were saying is unnecessary
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Trauma-san on July 19, 2001, 11:17:00 AM
I'm Not Hating, I'm Just Saying He's Wack... I TRIED Really Hard To Get Into 40, And Some Of His Stuff Is Dope.  I Bought 3 Albums Of His, And Couldn't Get Into That Sh*t, It's Just My Opinion.  I REalize He's A Vet, And I Always Rep Him On Our Site (When An Album Drops That I Hear About, LOL), But I'm Not Into Him.

BTW, Snoop Was Lyin' Through His Ass When He Says He Pulled A Gun At The Source Awards.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 19, 2001, 11:19:57 AM
aight thats cool Trauma, sorry about getting heated there but that earlier comment of yours kinda set me off lol
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 19, 2001, 11:57:22 AM
A gold record dats released on an independent label is like a 1.5 million records sold if u were on a label like dogghouse, So E40's gettin his dough. He's been in tha game since 1987 and every album he's dropped has gone at least gold.

And 4 u people dat said snoop doesn't claim dat these words are his, yall are wrong, About a year ago in a show( I think BET Live) they asked him what's some new words dat he's created on his slanguage dictionary and he said pleezbalievit, putting it as one word. Dats a major diss 2 tha bay.
People in tha bay area really care about the slangs dat they make 4 some reason.
Words like fo'sheezy and nizzle were all created here. Actually fosheezy waz created by 3xcrazy in oakland.

And another thing, Master P waz supposed 2 make a video of his song "pop ya collar", dat featured snoop here in tha bay wit E40 2 make cameos. But E40 turned him down 4 some reason, so tha video waz neva done.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big BpG on July 19, 2001, 12:10:21 PM
I seriously can't get into E40. It's cool that he is a big part of westcoast rap, but I just can't get into him. His flow isn't at all a flow. I'm not hating on him, but I just cant listen to his songs. The only song I can get into is Nah Nah Nah because it  has Nate and its produced by Battlecat...otherwise his flow is mumble jumble
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 19, 2001, 03:16:12 PM
u rite he cant flow dat well b/c he puts too many weird shit dat doesnt rhyme. But he's still the KING of slang. no doubt.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Don Jacob on July 19, 2001, 03:24:55 PM
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD! E-40 DID NOT MAKE UP ALL THOSE IZZLES AND PLEEZBALEEVIT'S ....AND NEITHER DID SNOOP!!!



that shit's been on the streets for years i remember being in the sand box in kindergarden and people using that whole izzle shizzle stuff, i can listen to a GRIP of my moms old ass records and find half of that pleezbaleevit language on those old 60's and 70's records
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 19, 2001, 03:46:39 PM
Dats what E40 and tha bayarea claim, And dont be dissin bayarea.

E40 also claims that the term "playahata" waz come up here in oakland in early 1980's and it spread all over later.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Don Jacob on July 19, 2001, 03:51:46 PM
umm that wasn't started in the bay area that was also started in the 70's with all those pimp and player movies like supafly and shaft , and that one dude who always wears green and gold that one "super pimp" dude coined that term...not the bay area....if anything it started in chicago with that one super pimp dude..forgot his name but he was on mtv for that one how to live like a rapper show
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 19, 2001, 03:58:35 PM
Well my brother is a dj out here, so I get most of tha bayarea inside info. and I know 4 a fact dat E40 has said all this.

Either E40 really believes Him and his people made these slangs up, or he just wants attention.

But I know he's mad at snoop 4 this,
and 4 havin mac minista's back instead of his.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on July 21, 2001, 03:43:26 AM
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its cool to support Snoop, im a huge fan too like most people in here, but I can at least recognize when he fucks up. please believe that! lol


  That's exactly how I feel.

  I know E-40 didnt make up ALL that slanguage... he did have alot to do with it though. Over the years he's been known for making up crazy shit.... now everyone kinda expects him to come up with new words.... so he does.

  Snoop may not be on Talk Shows claimin he made that Slanguage up but he sure does lead unknowing people to believe he did. How does he do that? By using it in every video, makin it like some sort of Snoop Dogg Trademark. By making his own shoe line called "Thizzle"

  EVEN PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD think that "Izzle" stuff belongs to Snoop. Read the thread titled "Anybody Heard That New Jay Z Song?" and read about how Jay Z is biting SNOOP'S "Izzle" thing.  ::)

 I guess people didnt notice MJG's line on MC Ren's "Ruthless 4 Life" cd which came out way back in 98'...... "Attacked by the weight of Bass in yo' chest/ 8 Ball, MJG, MC Rennn, never the less/ cuz we the most/ my real ass NIZZLLEz lets make a toast/ and sinlge out the busters and force them to get ghost/"












 And for everyone hatin' on E-40......

"I come from where they pop their collar/
It couldnt' be saved by Creflo Dollar/
Cuz I'll probably never ever see tha pearly gates/
At the rate I'm going now It'll be too late/
Can you taste it? Go on and smell it/
You know what that is? Sucka Repelant/
I spray myself with it every mornin', ya dig?/
I spray myself right before I leave tha crib/
Hot Ones echo through the ghetto, Bullets ricochet/
I'm bendin' corners In my Cadillac Escilade/
It's summer time and I'm scorchin' Fuck a bullet proof/
I'm hella keyed and perkin' off that numb-numb juice/
I'm in tha traffic with my music on STOOOOMP/
Got a ticket just for blowing my HOOORN/
Out the window, pinky ring, princess cut karrots onnn, surround my neck/
Lookin' like some chrommme, be at yo' best/
We don't play play checkers Nomore... we play chess.../"

 Now tell me that shit aint tight......
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Hittman on July 21, 2001, 03:58:18 AM
i support e-40  more than snoop.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 21, 2001, 08:22:11 AM
EXACTLY, E40 made tha words famous in tha underground, but Snoop gets all tha credit with da fans, I think E40 has a rite 2 be mad at snoop 4 this.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Nosak on July 21, 2001, 07:22:29 PM
anyways ::)

did e-40 used this shits now... well why nobody is sayin that it's from e-40 then if he so popular underground.. i think some people r just jalous off snoop d o doubble gizzle,, maybe beacause he's on the top of the game now ::) and people like nas jay-z and other that bite a bit  or a lot of doggy dogg,, did snoop get mad off it, noooo fuckin wayy ..cause he don't give a shit bout  that he's on top.. and  it shake the haters off , shake the haters off, shake the haters off........oooooooooooooo weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 8)
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: West Coast Veteran on July 21, 2001, 07:35:08 PM
Snoop or 40 Fonzarelli did NOT start the "izzay shizzay bizzay" shit...

peep this old skool song "DOUBLE DUTCH BUS" classic shit and they be sayin that shit..

plus jazz niggaz was usin that shit long time ago..its called "skat" talk or some shit...
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Nosak on July 21, 2001, 07:41:48 PM
and snoop was givin mad props to this guys in the song "snopp dogg" well in the video.. so snoop gave the props to the right person.. e-40 is bad trippin,,,, to much undergroung for him
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Ultranigga on July 21, 2001, 08:17:39 PM
Well the bottom line is that E-40 is tight and he puts it down for the westcoast too the fullest and Snoop forgot his deathrow roots. E-40 is straight westcoast Snoop tryin to be friends with all those gay ass Roc niggaz he needs to go back to the old sit trippin Snoop that banged on the Eastcoast WESTSiDe 4 Life homie!!!
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Don Jacob on July 21, 2001, 11:19:45 PM
since when was snoop a westcoast only rapper?


he was friends with Biggie at the same time with snoop

he was on the steve harvey show with puffy WHEN HE WAS STILL ON DEATHROW, when the doggfather came out

he's been friends with russle simons for god knows how many years.

snoop has been chillin' with tons of eastcoast artists ever since his Doggystyle days... i don't know what your talking about

and snoop's roots are in Long Beach, not deathrow, and snoop shows mad loyalty to the LB
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 22, 2001, 04:28:15 AM
I wish people wouldnt take sides in a beef that isnt even a beef yet, and probably wont be because 40 and snoop are both very cool people. and please believe 40 is not jealous of snoop in any way because people in the bay dont hate, they congratulate, and besides 40 is doing rather well for himself anyway.

i also wish people wouldnt hate on E40 without ever hearing one song by him. if this pertains to you go and peep his album In A Major Way or The Click - Game Related, some of his best work.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Hittman on July 22, 2001, 04:34:49 AM
Mr. Loc - Loyalty and Betrayal is E-40 best album to date it is easily a classic. I agree wit you on what you saying about people who are hating on 40 and they aint even heard him yet.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Trauma-san on July 22, 2001, 05:03:50 AM
Well, I'll Break It Down How I See It (Maybe I'm Jaded, And By The Way, I Hate That Fu*kin Jaded Song)... Anyways...

If Music (As WE Say) Is All About Givin' Props, And The TRUE Fans, And Not About Pop Bullsh*t, Then What's It Matter? The True Fans Know What's Up... So We're Pissed (Along With E-40) That SomebodyWatchin' MTV Thinks Snoop Made Up The Word "Nizzle"?  Who CARES? Peeps Watching MTV Don't Mean A Damn Thing To Music WE LIKE Anyways!  

I Know That Snoop Was Using Some Similar Crap WAY Back In '92, On The Chronic

"Yeah, dr. Drizzay's Sittin' On Tizzop, Treatin' Bitches Just Like A Punk Ass Cizzop"

And I Also Know THat E-40 Basically Got Famous For His Slanguage, So If You Ask Me, (Who Knows About Hiphop, And Therefore Would Be Considered A True Fan, Right?) If Snoop Invented That Crap, I'd Say "No, He Probably Either Got It Off The Streets, Or From E-40"... Ain't Nobody Bein' Fooled By It, Except Mtv!  So Who Cares?  It Still Sounds Good.  BTW, Are We ALSO Pissed That Grandmaster Flash Got Ripped Off, When He Started Rapping Over Samples? Everything In Music Is Derivitive, And If YOu Think That Mainstream Cats Are TOTALLY Original, Then You've Got Prizzy Problems.... Like John Lennon Said, "There's Only 7 Notes", So How Can You Truly Do Something Original With Limitations Like That?

Also, You're Saying I'm Afraid To Admit Something Bad About Snoop, Well, I'll Straight Up Admit He Bit His WHOLE STYLE AND FLOW From Richie Rich, Now Ain't That Some Sh*t?

Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: pimpdup on July 22, 2001, 06:26:26 AM
e-40 is way hyper than snoop his lyrics are ill
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: oUtLaW on July 22, 2001, 07:07:21 AM

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wait, this is wierd

snoop, in the new source, was talkin about how at the source awards when he saw mac minista fighting, he pulled out his strap, but mac was dueling wit the sic wid it crew, so was those 2 crews matching up?

well who gives a fuck about E40 he needs to work on his flow and hes pretty unknown in da rap game so who gives a fuck about him
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Hittman on July 22, 2001, 07:12:00 AM
why does it matter if he is underground Outlaw? Some of the best rappers are unknown.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big BpG on July 22, 2001, 07:59:33 AM
Someone brought up the song "Double Dutch Bus"
I just listend to it and yes he uses Izzles a lot... now
I checked on cdnow and that song is old school, before Snoop came out. Now, when did Snoop start using Izzle? In the song "Snoop Dogg", now if you watch the video, their is a school bus full of women.. on the school bus it says "Double Dutch Bus" ... so and if you listen to the beat of both songs... they sound quite similar... so Snoop is giving mad props to the "Double Dutch Bus" dude... so its not e40 and Snoop beef, its not beef at all... just calm down and chill

-bpg
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Nosak on July 22, 2001, 08:59:38 AM

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Someone brought up the song "Double Dutch Bus"
I just listend to it and yes he uses Izzles a lot... now
I checked on cdnow and that song is old school, before Snoop came out.Now, when did Snoop start using Izzle? In the song "Snoop Dogg"] , now if you watch the video, their is a school bus full of women.. on the school bus it says "Double Dutch Bus" ... so and if you listen to the beat of both songs... they sound quite similar... so Snoop is giving mad props to the "Double Dutch Bus" dude... so its not e40 and Snoop beef, its not beef at all... just calm down and chill

-bpg


that's what i was sayin why did everybody talk bout e-40 starts this shit .... and the question u ask above when did he start using this.... intthe snoop dogg video, nop not really cause back in the days of doggystyle he was already using it... "cause nobody fuck with death rizzle " or some like that..... see we was right trauma n i 8)
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Mr_Loc on July 22, 2001, 11:14:44 AM
yea you was right, even tho i wasnt even talking about the izzles in the wizzles.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Trauma-san on July 22, 2001, 11:38:35 AM
For Shizzle, Just For The Record, I Know What You're Talkin' About Mr. Loc.  I Don't Think Snoop Made It Up, And E-40 Deserves More Credit, But I Really Don't Think It's A Big Deal.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 22, 2001, 04:59:27 PM
It aint a beef really, cause Snoop dont know about E40's anger. E40 actually said on tha radio interview dat `he aint happy about people like snoop usin dis shit and gettin all tha credit 4 it, but he didn't get into detail about it at all.
And trauma says it best, when he said dat tha true snoop fans know wassup, but them Mtv peeps dont, so snoop should give props, dat Double Dutch shit dont mean nothin, most people dont know wat dat means.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Big BpG on July 22, 2001, 05:13:54 PM
Snoop took the izzles from "snoop Dogg" off the double dutch bus song... in the double dutch bus song they say

can you hit the d o doulbe dizzutch d o double dizutch

snoop changes it to

d o double gizzee

-bpg
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: oUtLaW on July 25, 2001, 11:56:17 AM

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why does it matter if he is underground Outlaw? Some of the best rappers are unknown.

if a rapper is soo good then he wouldnt be underground no more and anyway all da underground rappers want to be comercial like snoop dogg.
Title: Re: E40 v.s SNOOP
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on July 25, 2001, 12:32:09 PM

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if a rapper is soo good then he wouldnt be underground no more and anyway all da underground rappers want to be comercial like snoop dogg.


  I can see why you say that.... but it aint all 100% true. It all depends on promotion. You could be the best rapper in the world... but without promotion you aint really shit.

  For example... look at Nelly. He's on MTV/BET/Radio ALL THE TIME! Even more than Snoop nowadayz... that doesn't make'em better though... atleast not to me.

   Do you really think that the best rappers are the ones on TV? You're trippin! There's muthafuckers  out here with a gang of talent.... they just aint got the hook ups.

  And I really doubt E-40 (Who you claim is Underground) wishes he was commercial like Snoop. Of course he would want to blow up, who wouldnt? But I'm pretty sure he's happy the way he is... INDEPENDENT makin' his own bank..... I doubt he's complaining about how much money he gots at all.
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 25, 2001, 12:37:03 PM
How tha fuck is he gonna be reaaaal famous when he's on an independent label. He chooses 2 be on independent. He doesn't wanna be a fuckin sellout. He makes his money by goin gold on all his albums.
Dats tha best way 2 make business. Fuck being famous, just make tha $.
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Post by: Don Jacob on July 25, 2001, 03:09:20 PM
that's like saying fuck being well liked at school i'd rather just get straight A's instead....what's wrong with having both?
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Post by: eastcoast on July 25, 2001, 04:24:10 PM
being popular and famous are completely different tho.


popularity comes from your persona, charisma, personality. you know, the type of person you are.

being famous is being all over the television and radio, and getting love from people who dont know you, they just love you for your product.
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Post by: Don Jacob on July 25, 2001, 04:27:44 PM
the same can be said about popularity....alot of girls are only popular cuz they got a nice body, alot of guys are only popular cuz they play sports real good alot of people who are popular have somthing to offer wether it be looks athletic ability, ect. popular people are like local celebrities
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 25, 2001, 04:53:19 PM
E40 is like alocal hero also. He's more like an OG and he's like 36.
He controls tha game in tha bay area and tha bay slang, he just wants tha bay area 2 get recognized and at tha same time get his money and not be recognized everywhere he goes. Dats a real difficult thing to do. And when people like snoop come and take  tha shit dat  E40 worked everyday of his career  for away and not give him props, then he's bound 2 get upset.
And trust me no one can fuck wit E40 and his crew. Mac minista came close, and he nearly got killed.
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Post by: Don Jacob on July 26, 2001, 01:47:06 AM

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E40 is like alocal hero also. He's more like an OG and he's like 36.
He controls tha game in tha bay area and tha bay slang, he just wants tha bay area 2 get recognized and at tha same time get his money and not be recognized everywhere he goes. Dats a real difficult thing to do. And when people like snoop come and take  tha shit dat  E40 worked everyday of his career  for away and not give him props, then he's bound 2 get upset.
And trust me no one can fuck wit E40 and his crew. Mac minista came close, and he nearly got killed.



snoop didn't steal anything from e-40 they both got that slang and sayings from the same movie.....e-40 hardly worked hard for that


and i'm sorry e-40's crew would get delt with by the dogg pound---i'm sorry i don't know who's gonna be able to fuck with tray dee, daz, big c style, and shawn dogg...those are 3 crazy mother fuckers
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 26, 2001, 06:18:58 AM
Um E40, Blegit, Spice 1, Celly Cel, D-Shot, Tha Mossie, Tha Luniz, Dru down, Richie Rich, Riderlife crew, JT Tha Bigga Figga, Rappin 4 tay, RBL Posse, etc, etc.

These fools are all in tha same army, if someone fucks wit tha bay, they got it comin 4 em. Like Mac Minista, He's one of Snoop's crew, If Snoop's crew weren't scared they wouldve retaliated.

Plus yung ass people from Deathrow dat u aint even heard of are fuckin wit those 3 people u mentioned, but dey still sittin there takin notes.
They alwayz talk tha talk.
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Post by: oUtLaW on July 26, 2001, 10:29:51 AM

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How tha fuck is he gonna be reaaaal famous when he's on an independent label. He chooses 2 be on independent. He doesn't wanna be a fuckin sellout. He makes his money by goin gold on all his albums.
Dats tha best way 2 make business. Fuck being famous, just make tha $.

how is that being a sellout when u r on t.v popular and u sell more albums every rapper wants to do that or wishes to but not all of them get the opportunities or chance to prove. y da fuk would E 40 wanna be on independent label when he wouldnt sell dat much or become popular. hes just trying to be popular by starting a beef with snoop and his crew
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Post by: So Much Style on July 26, 2001, 10:40:21 AM
i agree alot of u people are on snoops nuts alittle bit, but its agiht, and yes e 40 sucks fat monkey shit with his moaning double time breath gasping ass  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Don Jacob on July 26, 2001, 02:36:54 PM

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Um E40, Blegit, Spice 1, Celly Cel, D-Shot, Tha Mossie, Tha Luniz, Dru down, Richie Rich, Riderlife crew, JT Tha Bigga Figga, Rappin 4 tay, RBL Posse, etc, etc.

These fools are all in tha same army, if someone fucks wit tha bay, they got it comin 4 em. Like Mac Minista, He's one of Snoop's crew, If Snoop's crew weren't scared they wouldve retaliated.

Plus yung ass people from Deathrow dat u aint even heard of are fuckin wit those 3 people u mentioned, but dey still sittin there takin notes.
They alwayz talk tha talk.


lol first of all the pound is down with half of those people u mentioned

but still

snoop, rbx, warren g , daz dillinger, kurupt, big c style, nate dogg, roscoe, tray deee, goldie loc, mac shawn , shawn dogg, dj jam, bad azz, soopafly, butch casidey, hell and the ENTIRE  eastside LBC would sworm...that's why deathrow couldn't touch snoop at the source awards, and that's why snoop isn't hessitant to speak out against no one wheter it be deathrow or whoever
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Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on July 26, 2001, 02:54:20 PM

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y da fuk would E 40 wanna be on independent label when he wouldnt sell dat much or become popular. hes just trying to be popular by starting a beef with snoop and his crew


  First of all.... E-40's not too underground. When his singles drop, they get alot of radio play in Southern Cali, and they show his video's on BET. Sure he aint as big as Snoop but he's still doin' his thing. The reason he would want to be on an Independant Lable is because he gets a bigger chunk of change off his record sales. His album goes Gold and he's a millionaire. Of course he would want to be bigger... EVERYONE WOULD WANT TO BE BIGGER! But I doubt he's complaining about the money he's already gettin'.

  That whole thing you said about him starting shit with Snoop and his crew for popularity is BULLSHIT! All he did was mention ONE lil thing on the radio and didnt even get into details about it. If he really wanted to let it out to the public, dont you think he would be on T.V or in the Hip Hop Magazines talking about the whole Source Awards incident?

  Bottom line is.... E-40 is already very well connected/well respected in tha rap game. You all might not like the way he raps but atleast give him his props and recognize what he's done for The Bay/West Coast Rap.

  Peace Out
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Post by: Big BpG on July 26, 2001, 08:19:27 PM
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Post by: Don Jacob on July 26, 2001, 08:20:45 PM
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