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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Meho on September 12, 2007, 03:07:05 PM
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BISD will be released with no promotion, then greatest hits and its over. This interview was created on Friday, so its not based on the first day sales or anything, he just dont wanna do it anymore:
http://www.str8hiphop.com/node/4141
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He's Lying.
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I dont think so. Lets not forget that he is 32 years old and the career of a rapper is short, especially for him, he blew up when he was already 28.
So basically that means, that he releases BISD in 08 and greatest hits in 09, when he'll be 34. Then maybe another album when hes 36,37 and thats it.
He got what he came for, the money of course. He said hes really enjoying shooting movies, so hes probably gonna follow LL's steps.
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^ But BISD defanitely won't be released with no promotion..remember it'll be on interscope
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Interscope aint doing shit anyways, 50 says that always follow what he does and not create anything themselves. So, 50 just wont do anything and Interscope will do what they do the best= being lost.
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Hmmn, I believe he mite retire but all this shit bout not promoting BISD is all bullshit to me, y wud interscope even bother to release it ??? I mean we all saw wot happened to Curtis after its singles bombed back in may...
*EDIT* On a side note i hope BISD sounds like that Smile (i'm Leaving) track, uno the more soulful beats, with 50 actually spitting bout something...
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Interscope aint doing shit anyways, 50 says that always follow what he does and not create anything themselves. So, 50 just wont do anything and Interscope will do what they do the best= being lost.
Think about that dog..Interscope'll probably shelve it then :-\
why would would they wanna release an album (that most likely cost alot to make) with NO promotion :-\
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if he can't put out anything better than curtis for his next lp he'd be better off calling it quits already. curtis was a poor effort considering the resources that 50 has and the music he has previously put out...you can't have a 50 cent project with no heated singles...and teaming up with tim and jt doesn't count 50 should easily be able to get spins everywhere with something more street credible :I
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BISD will be released with no promotion, then greatest hits and its over. This interview was created on Friday, so its not based on the first day sales or anything, he just dont wanna do it anymore:
http://www.str8hiphop.com/node/4141
Damn!!
Music, well The Rap Scene sure gon be empty without Him Around..
He came, Disrupted MTV/RAP/Other Mcs, now he is making plans for His Exist
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50 should easily be able to get spins everywhere with something more street credible :I
Apparantley, I Get Money gets played like crazy in every club in USA, not to mention that literally everybody freestyled over it. With the right push, it could be gigantic but Interscope leaked AYO, which is another reason why hes pissed at them.
@ Lunatic, as far as I know, artists pay out of their own pocket for producer and studio time, plus 50s albums arent really high budget, 3\4 of producers is unkown cats. And after 50 told Iovine to go fuck himself, I doubt that hes that fond of him anymore. If anyone can pull the no promotion thing, its 50.
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I dont think so. Lets not forget that he is 32 years old and the career of a rapper is short, especially for him, he blew up when he was already 28.
So basically that means, that he releases BISD in 08 and greatest hits in 09, when he'll be 34. Then maybe another album when hes 36,37 and thats it.
He got what he came for, the money of course. He said hes really enjoying shooting movies, so hes probably gonna follow LL's steps.
Exactly what i was gonna say lol!!!
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i get money is good but i'd expect something even bigger and better and just a tad more radio friendly from 50 to push his album. in da club/outta control remix > any other 50 single. yup, its gotta come from dre pretty much, although he still nailed it with disco inferno and candy shop on the massacre in terms of of club/radio spins...
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i hope hes quitting..... my ears would love that
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Lol Jay-Z said the same thing about "The Black Album".
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Man mainstream rappers say this all the time. But in the end they never really quit for good. The only reason why not many active rappers are in the 40s is cause mainstream rap is a fairly new thing. BISD will not be his last album. Take that to the bank son.
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hold on 50 ain't dead yet?... hmmm, well... alright I gotta make a couple o calls again >:(
8) 8) 8)
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The heat from Cam'Ron was finally enough
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The heat from Cam'Ron was finally enough
LOL you dont really believe that, do you?
Wasn't Cam supposed to be dropping an album this summer?
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The heat from Cam'Ron was finally enough
LOL
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I'll believe this after 10 years pass and 50 doesn't put out an album. I think he's just pouting right now cause he's upset reports are claiming that Kanye's gonna outsell him. As long as there's money to be made in the music industry, he's gonna squeeze every last cent out of his brand name that he can.
hold on 50 ain't dead yet?... hmmm, well... alright I gotta make a couple o calls again >:(
8) 8) 8)
Neither you nor anyone you know is pulling triggers on anyone. I, on the other hand, can send out a text message and an army of niggas with AKs and RPG-7s gon roll up in their technicals and rain bloody murda mo upon whoever I choose.
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Spice has become the biggest joke in the Outbound section during the last weeks.
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Cam executive produced Graduation
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All the more pressure for Detox...
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interscope pretty much screwed this album up for 50 i get money is a street anthem/club banger imo but i mean they leaked all that shit thats why this album aint gonna sell more than kanye but bisd i dont know how thats gonna do if their not going to do any promotion
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Spice has become the biggest joke in the Outbound section during the last weeks.
dont hate. i always speak the real
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The heat from Cam'Ron was finally enough
dip dip dip dip
(set?) SET! (set?) SET!
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all 50's said about curtis are the exatc things game said about DA. game said he'd move a million, otherwise he'd quite, 50 said hed beat kanye other wise he'd quit.... you cant say all this shit doesnt sound alot like when Doctor's advocate came out last year?
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interscope pretty much screwed this album up for 50 i get money is a street anthem/club banger imo but i mean they leaked all that shit thats why this album aint gonna sell more than kanye but bisd i dont know how thats gonna do if their not going to do any promotion
What the hell does realeasing a video a few weeks earlier then ur album release date going to do? Isnt it better for the album push? Lmao, i know it was apart of the game plan, but whats the big deal? It leaked, wowwww, whats the worst that could happen? More exposure? LMAO!!!
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What the hell does realeasing a video a few weeks earlier then ur album release date going to do? Isnt it better for the album push? Lmao, i know it was apart of the game plan, but whats the big deal? It leaked, wowwww, whats the worst that could happen? More exposure? LMAO!!!
No...its called over-exposure...50 had TOO MANY singles trying to hit the mainstream at once, people lose interest...singles need to be planned and implemented at the right time, releasing albums is ALL about timing, so vital - make a wrong move and its success can be severlely compromised.
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BISD will be released with no promotion, then greatest hits and its over. This interview was created on Friday, so its not based on the first day sales or anything,
Sure, like the sales have nothing to do with the sudden ending of his career. Weeks ago, it was already seen that Curtis won't be a commercial success like the two of his previous albums were.
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he doin a Jay-Z, what a fuckin bitch. I hope he does retire cos he puttin out st8 garbage
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thank god for this, bye bye bitch!
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What the hell does realeasing a video a few weeks earlier then ur album release date going to do? Isnt it better for the album push? Lmao, i know it was apart of the game plan, but whats the big deal? It leaked, wowwww, whats the worst that could happen? More exposure? LMAO!!!
No...its called over-exposure...50 had TOO MANY singles trying to hit the mainstream at once, people lose interest...singles need to be planned and implemented at the right time, releasing albums is ALL about timing, so vital - make a wrong move and its success can be severlely compromised.
thanks rud.
of course its too much exposure at once.... i mean, you dont have to be a genius to understand that. not only that, but he's losing all his "secret weapons" (like Follow My Lead) when he's gonna need em in a few months. its not like he can tell tv stations to wait a couple months and play it again when he needs that extra push. Ayo Technology aint gonna do it for the rest of the year. Timing is important, and thats what helped sell Get Rich or Die Trying cause timing was perfect, but they messed it up for Curtis.
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it's all publicity stunt to me but in the other hand he's rich and i dont think he give a fuck anymore about music
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What the hell does realeasing a video a few weeks earlier then ur album release date going to do? Isnt it better for the album push? Lmao, i know it was apart of the game plan, but whats the big deal? It leaked, wowwww, whats the worst that could happen? More exposure? LMAO!!!
No...its called over-exposure...50 had TOO MANY singles trying to hit the mainstream at once, people lose interest...singles need to be planned and implemented at the right time, releasing albums is ALL about timing, so vital - make a wrong move and its success can be severlely compromised.
thanks rud.
of course its too much exposure at once.... i mean, you dont have to be a genius to understand that. not only that, but he's losing all his "secret weapons" (like Follow My Lead) when he's gonna need em in a few months. its not like he can tell tv stations to wait a couple months and play it again when he needs that extra push. Ayo Technology aint gonna do it for the rest of the year. Timing is important, and thats what helped sell Get Rich or Die Trying cause timing was perfect, but they messed it up for Curtis.
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BISD will be released with no promotion, then greatest hits and its over. This interview was created on Friday, so its not based on the first day sales or anything,
I TOLD YOU I ALREADY HAVE GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN'. I DONT NEED TO BUY THAT ENTIRE ALBUM AGAIN ON THE GREATEST HITS! 8)
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I'll believe this after 10 years pass and 50 doesn't put out an album. I think he's just pouting right now cause he's upset reports are claiming that Kanye's gonna outsell him. As long as there's money to be made in the music industry, he's gonna squeeze every last cent out of his brand name that he can.
hold on 50 ain't dead yet?... hmmm, well... alright I gotta make a couple o calls again >:(
8) 8) 8)
Neither you nor anyone you know is pulling triggers on anyone. I, on the other hand, can send out a text message and an army of niggas with AKs and RPG-7s gon roll up in their technicals and rain bloody murda mo upon whoever I choose.
lol get the fuck outta here go "take some hands" or eat some dicks, whatever
8) 8) 8)
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50's career reminds me of some lyrics from N.W.A's classic "Efil4zaggin" album. Mc Ren raps on the first track
"You came out the streets and crossed over,
and after that your career is fucking over.
Because after that you're not around"
and
"All I hear is motherfuckers trying to make a comeback with lovesongs,
and that shit is whack.
And that's why your ass ain't around,
cause you don't have the motherfucking sound of a real nigga."
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whats BISD?
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whats BISD?
Before I Self Destruct. That is the title of his next solo.
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I dont think so. Lets not forget that he is 32 years old and the career of a rapper is short, especially for him, he blew up when he was already 28.
So basically that means, that he releases BISD in 08 and greatest hits in 09, when he'll be 34. Then maybe another album when hes 36,37 and thats it.
He got what he came for, the money of course. He said hes really enjoying shooting movies, so hes probably gonna follow LL's steps.
What the fuck are you talking about? Now I do respect people having different opinions, but this one is just too crazy..
You mean to tell me that a rapper can't have a long career?
This sounds like a cheap excuse you are coming with to defend fifty..
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It has nothign to do with him. A career of a rapper is short. Most of them drop their first album at the age of 25,26 and last one at 35. Anything more, you get called a grandpa like Jay-Z. Hes 37, which in normal career, would mean that hes still young to the biz or whatever, but in rap hes getting shittted on 24/7.
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His ego is bruised, that's all. He had been the highest selling artist for a couple of years and now he is 2nd fiddle to Kanye as far as sales. It's hard to talk shit when the numbers don't back it up.
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It has nothign to do with him. A career of a rapper is short. Most of them drop their first album at the age of 25,26 and last one at 35. Anything more, you get called a grandpa like Jay-Z. Hes 37, which in normal career, would mean that hes still young to the biz or whatever, but in rap hes getting shittted on 24/7.
There are rappers out there who have been in the game for 20 years man! It can be still you career if you are being called grandpa :P
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Timbo - Quit blaming Interscope for 50's failures. Yes I fucking hate Interscope, and yeah they fuck up their releases, but so does every other mainstream label these days. I would have no clue of albums from UGK, Devin, WC, etc etc etc if it weren't for me being on the net. Those guys are still doing it and are still making good music.
But I still copped those albums BECAUSE THEY MAKE GOOD MUSIC. If 50 made good music, I'd cop his too. Bottom line is, 50 fell the fuck off as soon as "The Massacre" dropped.
50 played the exploitation game with mainstream rap - exploit the shit out of whatever is hot, burn it to the nth degree, completely oversaturate the market so as to milk every fucking dollar. And then do it again and again until you're completely irrelevant.
Well now, 50 is getting a rude awakening that nobody likes him, his whole gimmick is completely played out, and nobody is interested anymore (relatively speaking). Rather than admit to any of that, he's resorting to blaming every one else.
And you in particular have been incredibly brainwashed by big labels and mainstream rap. You parrot shit like "yeah a rappers shelf life is x". And you believe it because that is what all of these labels say to cover their ass when one of their big names doesn't sell anymore. It's never because said artist is no longer hungry, it's whatever reason is convenient.
How is Dr. Dre's shelf life? Outkast? UGK? Jay-Z?
You know who has these small as shelf lives? DISPOSABLE, NO TALENT, ALL GIMMICK RAPPERS...Mims, Soulja Boy, D4L, pretty much anybody you see on BET/MTV/Terrestrial Radio. When labels and "artists" (term used loosely) propagate music that caters to trends, then said "artist" is only as relevant as the trendy shit they're spewing. That's the game they play - they make some money for a minute, but they are instantly irrelvant as soon as that one trick show has been used up.
And for the record, no one should believe a fucking word that comes outta 50's mouth. That bitch is reachin to keep his name relevant that he'll say anything to anyone who will listen. ITS ALL HYPE. 50's word means absolutely nothing.
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But wait a second, youre talking like 50 flopped. Thats crazy, last time I checked hes on a pace to do 550.000-600.000, which will be the highest first week sales in a long time (of course with Kanye most likely suprasing him). The problem is that 50 is dissapointed with anything less than 1.14 mill, he said that Massacre was a flop in his eyes, since he wanted to outdo GRODT. So, to say that nobody is interested in him is just plain reaching.
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And you in particular have been incredibly brainwashed by big labels and mainstream rap.
But wait a second, youre talking like 50 flopped. Thats crazy, last time I checked hes on a pace to do 550.000-600.000, which will be the highest first week sales in a long time (of course with Kanye most likely suprasing him). The problem is that 50 is dissapointed with anything less than 1.14 mill, he said that Massacre was a flop in his eyes, since he wanted to outdo GRODT. So, to say that nobody is interested in him is just plain reaching.
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Timbo - Quit blaming Interscope for 50's failures. Yes I fucking hate Interscope, and yeah they fuck up their releases, but so does every other mainstream label these days. I would have no clue of albums from UGK, Devin, WC, etc etc etc if it weren't for me being on the net. Those guys are still doing it and are still making good music.
But I still copped those albums BECAUSE THEY MAKE GOOD MUSIC. If 50 made good music, I'd cop his too. Bottom line is, 50 fell the fuck off as soon as "The Massacre" dropped.
50 played the exploitation game with mainstream rap - exploit the shit out of whatever is hot, burn it to the nth degree, completely oversaturate the market so as to milk every fucking dollar. And then do it again and again until you're completely irrelevant.
Well now, 50 is getting a rude awakening that nobody likes him, his whole gimmick is completely played out, and nobody is interested anymore (relatively speaking). Rather than admit to any of that, he's resorting to blaming every one else.
And you in particular have been incredibly brainwashed by big labels and mainstream rap. You parrot shit like "yeah a rappers shelf life is x". And you believe it because that is what all of these labels say to cover their ass when one of their big names doesn't sell anymore. It's never because said artist is no longer hungry, it's whatever reason is convenient.
How is Dr. Dre's shelf life? Outkast? UGK? Jay-Z?
You know who has these small as shelf lives? DISPOSABLE, NO TALENT, ALL GIMMICK RAPPERS...Mims, Soulja Boy, D4L, pretty much anybody you see on BET/MTV/Terrestrial Radio. When labels and "artists" (term used loosely) propagate music that caters to trends, then said "artist" is only as relevant as the trendy shit they're spewing. That's the game they play - they make some money for a minute, but they are instantly irrelvant as soon as that one trick show has been used up.
And for the record, no one should believe a fucking word that comes outta 50's mouth. That bitch is reachin to keep his name relevant that he'll say anything to anyone who will listen. ITS ALL HYPE. 50's word means absolutely nothing.
Good point. I do think Interscope did do some things wrong as far as promotion, but the thing that kills me about 50 is he talks like he has everything figured out. His marketing antics have become so predictable, the only difference this time is Kanye recognized it and used it to his advantage. I think the sign that this album would be different was how lukewarm the response was to Str8 2 Da Bank and Amusement Park. That and how G-Unit has been doing post GRODT Soundtrack.
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50 came into this for the money, and he's now filthy rich, arguably right there with Diddy and Jay as the richest in the hip hop game. So I could see him losing motivation to be in the rap game since his only motivation (money) is no longer there. But if he did "quit" we all know like Jay he'll come back because after money the only thing 50 cares for is attention, and he'll begin to miss not having it.
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He better fuckin quit.
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But wait a second, youre talking like 50 flopped. Thats crazy, last time I checked hes on a pace to do 550.000-600.000, which will be the highest first week sales in a long time (of course with Kanye most likely suprasing him). The problem is that 50 is dissapointed with anything less than 1.14 mill, he said that Massacre was a flop in his eyes, since he wanted to outdo GRODT. So, to say that nobody is interested in him is just plain reaching.
Well now, 50 is getting a rude awakening that nobody likes him, his whole gimmick is completely played out, and nobody is interested anymore (relatively speaking). Rather than admit to any of that, he's resorting to blaming every one else.
And again, you're missing the point. You've been brainwashed into believing that 1st week sales justify that the album is good or not. I don't know what 50's albums have pushed historically in the 1st week. I do know that his music has gotten predominantly worse as time went on. Blame his decreasing sales on illegal downloads, on Interscope, on Kanye, blah blah blah. If he was dropping quality shit, cats would continue to support it.
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Rappers are like Wrestlers when it comes to retiring.... they always come back ....
However, Rap is like the Mafia.... you never truly leave until you are pushed out.... lol.
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he was on Howard Stern today, he said he was just fuckin around when he said that
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lol at all these discussions. The only reasing 50 is saying all these things is to futher promote his album.
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Fuckin' old ass Melle Mel is coming out with a CD, LL is prone to the comeback every 2-3 years, and even Big Daddy Kane and Rakim have attempted comebacks, I doubt 50's done.
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young buck is the best in g unit