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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Elano on September 20, 2007, 01:38:26 AM
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GROUNDS OF DISCONTENT: Last September, after a group of black students were allowed to sit under a tree on the unofficial "white" side of the grounds, a group of white students hung nooses from its branches.
Activists are expected to converge on this tiny town, protesting the stiff charges for black teens who beat a white youth.
JENA, LA. -- -- Beau Jones, Jena High School's gangly white quarterback, had one question as he parked his white pickup truck outside LaSalle Parish Courthouse: Was all this -- the jostling camera crews and row of satellite trucks -- really for Mychal Bell?
Bell, his former running back, was inside the courthouse, wearing handcuffs and ankle shacklesand meeting with the Rev. Al Sharpton. Bell is one of six black teenagers charged with attempted murder for beating a white classmate, raising criticism that justice in this predominantly white Southern town is not colorblind.
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"This isn't Jena," Jones, 16, said softly as he stared at the metal barricades around the local stores, the surveillance cameras being installed across the street, the gleaming limousine that had whisked civil rights leader Sharpton to this tiny tobacco town. "We're now on the map as a racist town, but the town I know, everyone pretty much gets along."
Today, thousands of protesters from across the country are expected to march through Jena (pronounced JEE-nuh), dwarfing its population of about 3,000. Not even the organizers know how many people to expect, but some say it could become a major civil rights march.
"Again, we come to the South to raise new hope, not to condemn," Sharpton told reporters outside the courthouse. "This is not a march against Jena."
Yet with predictions ranging from 1,000 to 60,000 protesters, many locals are apprehensive. The march has been publicized on talk radio and Internet blogs.
Jena High School and LaSalle Parish Library will close for the day. Most local business owners planned to close their stores too. Activists, they noted, vowed they would not spend money in Jena.
Logistical preparations for a large protest in a town with only two stoplights is a challenge for law enforcement officials, particularly with so many businesses expected to be closed. A spokesman for the Louisiana State Police said Wednesday that law enforcement from across the region would assist state troopers and police officers. Portable toilets were to be installed downtown, and the American Red Cross was to provide water.
Many residents of this town, which is 86% white, said they resented the media invasion, arguing that the conflict at the high school had been blown out of proportion, fed by journalists and activists' stereotypes of small Southern towns.
What has become known as the "Jena Six" case began last September, when a black high school student sat under a tree traditionally, although not officially, reserved for whites. The next day, three nooses were hanging from the tree. Three white students were briefly suspended.
Then, in December, a white student was beaten up by six black schoolmates outside the school gymnasium. The black students were charged with attempted murder.
Eventually, those charges were reduced to offenses such as aggravated battery. In June, Bell was found guilty of second-degree battery charges. On Friday, the state 3rd Circuit Court of Appeal threw out his conviction, saying he had been improperly tried as an adult. Bell, now 17, remains in custody while prosecutors decide whether to file new charges against him in juvenile court.
Many locals say Jena is no worse than the cities where protesters are coming from.
Some concede that the black students were dealt with too harshly. Some believe the nooses were just a childish prank; others say the three white students involved were just bad kids, not representative of the overall community.
"We don't have a sign outside saying blacks are not welcome," said Pat Randall, 55, owner of Fabrics and More, a block away from the courthouse.
"They talk about nooses and hate, but this is an integrated community," said Evelyn Talley, 68, who before coming to Jena worked as a teacher for 17 years in Southern California. "At least we mix here. And there are no gangs."
As Sharpton entered the courthouse to meet Bell on Wednesday, scores of reporters surrounded his media representative, quizzing her about today's march from LaSalle Parish Courthouse to Jena High School -- specifically which celebrities would be attending.
Rachel Noerdlinger reeled off a list that included Tyler Perry, writer of the film "Diary of a Mad Black Woman"; Bernice King, daughter of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.; and hip-hop artist Mos Def.
"Oprah?" asked someone.
"No," said Noerdlinger. "And Will Smith is not coming."
Pam Gresham, who works at a bail bonds store opposite the courthouse, tried to ignore the camera crews as she took a cigarette break on her front porch. She said she would not attend today's protest.
"If all these people would actually see and talk to the people, even go to a football game, they would see it's not a bad town," she said. "We all play as one. We all cheer."
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I've been following this story for a few weeks now. Crazy ass shit.
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1,000 to 60,000????? the town population is only 3,000!
amazing.
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I dont know why, but i'm interested in what kind of reaction we'd see if 6 white kids beat up one black kid. Somehow I think Sharpton would still be there.
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Throw the Jena 6 and those other guys that were causing shit all in jail. Fuck em. They pull this racist shit up in schools, which is suppose to be an institution for learning, and turn the whole place into a circus.
As a matter of fact, drop a nuke on the entire South except for Tennesse, Florida, and Atlanta. These motherfuckers will always be 50 years behind us.
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I think that nigga lives in LA blood. we got idiots all over. (plus u gotta bomb tennesse too, family isnt an excuse, sorry i just feel the same way, bombs away)
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I think that nigga lives in LA blood. we got idiots all over. (plus u gotta bomb tennesse too, family isnt an excuse, sorry i just feel the same way, bombs away)
Inglewood to be exact.
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LOL, good old inglewood, where dreams are made
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Throw the Jena 6 and those other guys that were causing shit all in jail. Fuck em. They pull this racist shit up in schools, which is suppose to be an institution for learning, and turn the whole place into a circus.
As a matter of fact, drop a nuke on the entire South except for Tennesse, Florida, and Atlanta. These motherfuckers will always be 50 years behind us.
Truth, truth, and more truth. But bomb Atlanta too.
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Thousands March On Louisiana Town To Support 'Jena Six'
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Mos Def and Bun B support the Jena Six in Jena, Louisiana
Bun B, Mos Def join the crowds: 'Shame on everybody who's not here,' Mos fumes.
JENA, Louisiana — "Justice Even Needs Assistance" reads the shirt adorning one middle-age lady, who traveled with her church group from Dallas to Jena. She's sitting on a bench in front of what used to be a Jena High School administration building on East High School Drive. The building was burned to a crisp on November 30, 2006, in what was believed to be arson, with blacks and whites blaming each other. The walls are gone and you can actually see part of the hallway from outside.
"No justice! No peace until the six are free," college students repeatedly yell as they stand in defiance on a huge lump of dirt. The spot is where the infamous "whites-only tree" — as some media outlets have been referring to it — once stood before it was chopped down by administrators earlier this summer. White students allegedly hung nooses on the tree the day after a black student decided to sit under it.
A few feet away, a man with long dreadlocks starts to rail.
"Where was all of this when Patrick Dorismond got shot? What about Sean Bell?" he ranted, recalling two black males who were fatally shot by New York police officers in March 2000 and November 2006, respectively. "We should have been doing this," he rants.
"I wanna see Ludacris and P. Diddy out here," he continues. "Where's Young Jeezy when I need him? Where's Kanye? The Louis Vuitton Don is not here. ... What I am hoping is that it's not like Easter, where everybody goes to church to hear the sermon, then forgets the message the next week."
Despite the man's fervent dialogue, the setting at the school has been very peaceful. It almost feels more like going to a museum rather than a protest march. Although Jena High's doors are closed, people are walking around the campus taking pictures and talking among themselves.
A little later, the Reverend Jesse Jackson takes command with a speech at the LaSalle Parish Courthouse.
"We will not make any concession until the parents and lawyers sign off," Jackson has the people repeat. "We will come back again and again and again until Mychal [Bell, one of the Jena Six who has been in jail for almost a year] is set free and the charges are dropped.
"We want all the boys sent to school and not to jail," Jackson continues, having the people answer him in unison.
"Our agenda, one agenda: Free Mychal Bell. Drop the charges. ... Free the Jena Six and drop the charges now."
A few miles away from the protest, Bun B and Mos Def are at a gas station meeting up. Bun had just left the march. Mos was having a hard time entering the central area because the roads leading to the heart of the protest were temporarily shut down one way. It is too crowded.
Mos' black T-shirt reads "Hip-Hop is Bigger Than the Government."
Bun's shirt simply says "Free Jena 6."
"I grew up right next to a town where it's strictly white people," Texas native Bun explains of why he got involved. "I've been privy to these small incidents of violence in these all-white towns. ... We were blessed to find out about the Jena Six and were blessed to try to make some type of impact in this community before things went too far."
Mos is disgusted that more of his peers did not show up. He reached out to a myriad of artists and couldn't figure out why they can always hop private planes to go to music-industry events but couldn't come out for the Jena Six.
"Shame on everybody who's not here," Mos fumes. "I'm f---in' mad. I'm disappointed to always be coming to these things and it's only one or two people [from the industry here]. If you ain't gonna use your voice, then be quiet. ... I'm disappointed and ashamed."
"It's no need to bite your tongue in a situation like this," Bun concurs.
When Mos leaves, he vows to get to where the people were protesting even if he had to walk several miles. Minutes later, singer Lyfe Jennings arrives.
A court hearing for Mychal Bell — the only member of the Jena 6 still in jail — has been ordered to take place in the next three days, his attorney told CNN on Thursday.
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"Big shout-out to all the bike clubs who rode down," Bun B writes from Jena. "They were several hundred deep, organized and ready for action."
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
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I dont know why, but i'm interested in what kind of reaction we'd see if 6 white kids beat up one black kid. Somehow I think Sharpton would still be there.
Oh Sharpton would be there for sure. But he'd be calling for longer sentencing like he did when the white Duke kids were accused of raping the black stripper. Funny how he didn't apologize when the Stripper was found to be a liar.
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
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What they are being charged with is the big issue here. Back in my day, we used to rumble each other, put folks in the hospital and get suspended for a few days from school and return. That's how it is in high schools, shit, that's how it is growin up, period. If they wanted to punish us on a criminal level, couple of us would get probation for it and that was it. But attempted murder? Does anyone actually believe these kids had intentions of killing? It's a fight in high school, c'mon now.. there's obviously some racist shit goin on. A small suburban town in the south, can't really say I didn't expect it.
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How dumb are these black people? they are going to demand the release of some scum who beat down some white kids.? wtf
Why is it that black people will allow themselves to be played like this, from trying to emulate wealth of high flying white people by becoming obsessed with bling, to obsessing over what Imus said. I don't understand it because black people in some ways are more aware of the reality of daily life than most and yet they allow themselves to be suckered in. What a crock of shit this whole episode is. Why don't these black people focus their energy into what is important, stop with all the broken homes. stop being so obsessed with jewels and start being role models for the younger generation. That is not meant to be a patronising comment, it's just wherever that parasite Sharpton leeches from, people should stay well away. Of course there is racism towards black people in fact they probably have it the hardest but this is just a bs distraction issue again, these people deserve to get punished. That is the law and I can just imagine how these same idiots would have reacted if the perpetrators had been white. By the way I know ultimately it's the media that are playing their part as the muppet masters, sometimes they will choose a white on black issue, other times it's a black on white issue, anything to keep the divisions at the forefont of peoples minds!
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
Umm there have been numerous hate crimes that white people commited in that town against the same black kids that got punished and all got away with it. Like a white man at a gas station with nooses in his truck pulled a gun on some of the black kids and one of the black kids got the gun away from him and was charged with theft of the gun. Tell me thats not some shit there. God knows what else those fucking hicks got away with.
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What they are being charged with is the big issue here. Back in my day, we used to rumble each other, put folks in the hospital and get suspended for a few days from school and return. That's how it is in high schools, shit, that's how it is growin up, period. If they wanted to punish us on a criminal level, couple of us would get probation for it and that was it. But attempted murder? Does anyone actually believe these kids had intentions of killing? It's a fight in high school, c'mon now.. there's obviously some racist shit goin on. A small suburban town in the south, can't really say I didn't expect it.
Now I don't know what happened but this is what Wikipedia said with regards to the assault;
"On December 4, 2006, Jena High School student Justin Barker, age 17, was assaulted by other Jena High students. According to reports, earlier that day Barker, a white student, bragged about how one of his alleged attackers, Robert Bailey, Jr., had been beaten up by a white man the Friday before.[3] Barker, who denies making the comments, was then knocked to the ground after being hit in the back of his head. From there, according to some witnesses, a group of black students followed suit by repeatedly kicking him.[15] Barker, who was left unconscious after the attack, was examined by a doctor at the local hospital. In the meantime, the six students accused of the attack, eventually dubbed the "Jena Six",[16] were arrested."
I don't care what nooses were on what tree, what fight happened at what party or what stupid kid pulled out a shotgun. The kid that got beat up did not instigate that kind of beat down. 5 or 6 guys kicking someone while they are down can do a lot of damage. A few years back some kid North of Toronto received that kind of beating and he ended up becoming retarded because of too many kicks to the head, and the teens that beat him down barely got 2 years. That's Canada for you. Doing something like that is very serious and should not be condoned. If they are not guilty they are not guilty, and due process should occur, and with all the attention now it will.
But here is the real problem and it shows how stupid we are in North America. Even if they are found guilty, or plead guilty, the idea that they were victims of racism will eclipse the reality that a teenager was the victim of harsh violence and the Jena 6 will always be looked at as bigger victims of the system and their emotinal and intellectual growth runs the risk of being forever stunted because stupid angry black and stupid guilt ridden whites don't understand a God Damn thing.
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
Umm there have been numerous hate crimes that white people commited in that town against the same black kids that got punished and all got away with it. Like a white man at a gas station with nooses in his truck pulled a gun on some of the black kids and one of the black kids got the gun away from him and was charged with theft of the gun. Tell me thats not some shit there. God knows what else those fucking hicks got away with.
See you're the perfect example of the stupidity I speak of. You are a victim of it. You had to out of your way to mention the nosses on the truck like that makes a difference. Hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws. If the guy went up to them with a gun then he he should be charged. If the guy was was approached by the young men in an attempt to be beaten and he took the gun out for protection and they stole it then they should be charged. What the white man's racial beliefs are, no matter how stupid, has no bearing on what the charges or public perception should be.
So what if he's racist. It's not illegal to be an asshole. If my mother died in some freak accident and the next day some asshole neighbor of mine who didn't like her out up a shrine in front of his house with a picture of her with markered devil horns and a mustache and had "ding dong the witch is dead" playing through his speakers I'd be very upset. But if I beat the shit out of the guy for doing it I'd still have to suffer the penalty. Why? Because disrepect does not justify voilence.
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How dumb are these black people? they are going to demand the release of some scum who beat down some white kids.? wtf
Why is it that black people will allow themselves to be played like this, from trying to emulate wealth of high flying white people by becoming obsessed with bling, to obsessing over what Imus said. I don't understand it because black people in some ways are more aware of the reality of daily life than most and yet they allow themselves to be suckered in. What a crock of shit this whole episode is. Why don't these black people focus their energy into what is important, stop with all the broken homes. stop being so obsessed with jewels and start being role models for the younger generation. That is not meant to be a patronising comment, it's just wherever that parasite Sharpton leeches from, people should stay well away. Of course there is racism towards black people in fact they probably have it the hardest but this is just a bs distraction issue again, these people deserve to get punished. That is the law and I can just imagine how these same idiots would have reacted if the perpetrators had been white. By the way I know ultimately it's the media that are playing their part as the muppet masters, sometimes they will choose a white on black issue, other times it's a black on white issue, anything to keep the divisions at the forefont of peoples minds!
They deserve to spend their whole lives in jail for beating a kid up that brought it upon himself? while other kids are getting away with giving people worser injuries and not get jail time at all? I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished at all but the sentences theyre possibly getting is insane. and don't even bring the Imus issue up. This Jena stuff was happening before that happened.
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
Umm there have been numerous hate crimes that white people commited in that town against the same black kids that got punished and all got away with it. Like a white man at a gas station with nooses in his truck pulled a gun on some of the black kids and one of the black kids got the gun away from him and was charged with theft of the gun. Tell me thats not some shit there. God knows what else those fucking hicks got away with.
See you're the perfect example of the stupidity I speak of. You are a victim of it. You had to out of your way to mention the nosses on the truck like that makes a difference. Hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws. If the guy went up to them with a gun then he he should be charged. If the guy was was approached by the young men in an attempt to be beaten and he took the gun out for protection and they stole it then they should be charged. What the white man's racial beliefs are, no matter how stupid, has no bearing on what the charges or public perception should be.
So what if he's racist. It's not illegal to be an asshole. If my mother died in some freak accident and the next day some asshole neighbor of mine who didn't like her out up a shrine in front of his house with a picture of her with markered devil horns and a mustache and had "ding dong the witch is dead" playing through his speakers I'd be very upset. But if I beat the shit out of the guy for doing it I'd still have to suffer the penalty. Why? Because disrepect does not justify voilence.
Whoa, calm the fuck down man i was just challenging your opinion. White people there have commited alot more violence against blacks down there and only got a slap on the wrist for it. And you saying hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws is wrong. Do copyright laws involve violence and discrimination?
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They deserve to spend their whole lives in jail for beating a kid up that brought it upon himself? while other kids are getting away with giving people worser injuries and not get jail time at all? I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished at all but the sentences theyre possibly getting is insane. and don't even bring the Imus issue up. This Jena stuff was happening before that happened.
^ they dropped the murder beef a long time ago
One of my friends from highschool, and one of his friends, beat down a couple guys one night, took their hats and sunglasses and bounced. He called one of them a fag so it was automatically a fucking hate crime even though they both claim to be straight. But because he also took the kids sunglasses and hat he was charged with one count of felony accountability to robbery, plus both guys got two counts of felony aggravated assault. That shit totaled up to more than 10 years(this was a few years ago so I don't remember exactly), he sat in jail for a full year before he even had court and bail was set at a cool quarter mil.
Now, tell me that crime was worse than this 6 on 1 beatdown, since they were actually convicted on harsher charges than these guys in Jena are now facing, who the supporters want all charges dropped on or at least dropped to a misdemeanor; that's not equality. Oh and they just had on the news that two guys were arrested for hanging a noose off their truck.
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What they are being charged with is the big issue here. Back in my day, we used to rumble each other, put folks in the hospital and get suspended for a few days from school and return. That's how it is in high schools, shit, that's how it is growin up, period. If they wanted to punish us on a criminal level, couple of us would get probation for it and that was it. But attempted murder? Does anyone actually believe these kids had intentions of killing? It's a fight in high school, c'mon now.. there's obviously some racist shit goin on. A small suburban town in the south, can't really say I didn't expect it.
Now I don't know what happened but this is what Wikipedia said with regards to the assault;
"On December 4, 2006, Jena High School student Justin Barker, age 17, was assaulted by other Jena High students. According to reports, earlier that day Barker, a white student, bragged about how one of his alleged attackers, Robert Bailey, Jr., had been beaten up by a white man the Friday before.[3] Barker, who denies making the comments, was then knocked to the ground after being hit in the back of his head. From there, according to some witnesses, a group of black students followed suit by repeatedly kicking him.[15] Barker, who was left unconscious after the attack, was examined by a doctor at the local hospital. In the meantime, the six students accused of the attack, eventually dubbed the "Jena Six",[16] were arrested."
I don't care what nooses were on what tree, what fight happened at what party or what stupid kid pulled out a shotgun. The kid that got beat up did not instigate that kind of beat down. 5 or 6 guys kicking someone while they are down can do a lot of damage. A few years back some kid North of Toronto received that kind of beating and he ended up becoming retarded because of too many kicks to the head, and the teens that beat him down barely got 2 years. That's Canada for you. Doing something like that is very serious and should not be condoned. If they are not guilty they are not guilty, and due process should occur, and with all the attention now it will.
But here is the real problem and it shows how stupid we are in North America. Even if they are found guilty, or plead guilty, the idea that they were victims of racism will eclipse the reality that a teenager was the victim of harsh violence and the Jena 6 will always be looked at as bigger victims of the system and their emotinal and intellectual growth runs the risk of being forever stunted because stupid angry black and stupid guilt ridden whites don't understand a God Damn thing.
and see you're using wikipedia as a source and you're calling me a victim of stupidity? ha
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They deserve to spend their whole lives in jail for beating a kid up that brought it upon himself? while other kids are getting away with giving people worser injuries and not get jail time at all? I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished at all but the sentences theyre possibly getting is insane. and don't even bring the Imus issue up. This Jena stuff was happening before that happened.
^ they dropped the murder beef a long time ago
One of my friends from highschool, and one of his friends, beat down a couple guys one night, took their hats and sunglasses and bounced. He called one of them a fag so it was automatically a fucking hate crime even though they both claim to be straight. But because he also took the kids sunglasses and hat he was charged with one count of felony accountability to robbery, plus both guys got two counts of felony aggravated assault. That shit totaled up to more than 10 years(this was a few years ago so I don't remember exactly), he sat in jail for a full year before he even had court and bail was set at a cool quarter mil.
Now, tell me that crime was worse than this 6 on 1 beatdown, since they were actually convicted on harsher charges than these guys in Jena are now facing, who the supporters want all charges dropped on or at least dropped to a misdemeanor; that's not equality. Oh and they just had on the news that two guys were arrested for hanging a noose off their truck.
yeah but did he get called a fag only once by the person that got beat up or numerous times before it provoked violence?
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Yall niggas should get an avatar or a sig... I have probably never seen so many posts without either one of those in my dubcc history.
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They deserve to spend their whole lives in jail for beating a kid up that brought it upon himself? while other kids are getting away with giving people worser injuries and not get jail time at all? I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished at all but the sentences theyre possibly getting is insane. and don't even bring the Imus issue up. This Jena stuff was happening before that happened.
^ they dropped the murder beef a long time ago
One of my friends from highschool, and one of his friends, beat down a couple guys one night, took their hats and sunglasses and bounced. He called one of them a fag so it was automatically a fucking hate crime even though they both claim to be straight. But because he also took the kids sunglasses and hat he was charged with one count of felony accountability to robbery, plus both guys got two counts of felony aggravated assault. That shit totaled up to more than 10 years(this was a few years ago so I don't remember exactly), he sat in jail for a full year before he even had court and bail was set at a cool quarter mil.
Now, tell me that crime was worse than this 6 on 1 beatdown, since they were actually convicted on harsher charges than these guys in Jena are now facing, who the supporters want all charges dropped on or at least dropped to a misdemeanor; that's not equality. Oh and they just had on the news that two guys were arrested for hanging a noose off their truck.
yeah but did he get called a fag only once by the person that got beat up or numerous times before it provoked violence?
he called the guy he beatdown a fag, thats why it was a hate crime
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
Umm there have been numerous hate crimes that white people commited in that town against the same black kids that got punished and all got away with it. Like a white man at a gas station with nooses in his truck pulled a gun on some of the black kids and one of the black kids got the gun away from him and was charged with theft of the gun. Tell me thats not some shit there. God knows what else those fucking hicks got away with.
See you're the perfect example of the stupidity I speak of. You are a victim of it. You had to out of your way to mention the nosses on the truck like that makes a difference. Hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws. If the guy went up to them with a gun then he he should be charged. If the guy was was approached by the young men in an attempt to be beaten and he took the gun out for protection and they stole it then they should be charged. What the white man's racial beliefs are, no matter how stupid, has no bearing on what the charges or public perception should be.
So what if he's racist. It's not illegal to be an asshole. If my mother died in some freak accident and the next day some asshole neighbor of mine who didn't like her out up a shrine in front of his house with a picture of her with markered devil horns and a mustache and had "ding dong the witch is dead" playing through his speakers I'd be very upset. But if I beat the shit out of the guy for doing it I'd still have to suffer the penalty. Why? Because disrepect does not justify voilence.
yea ud have to suffer the penalty but the whole justice system is pretty much fuckd if ur guilty. theres racism in LA i wonder how bad it is down south, cops always let the white bois go n judges and district attorneys are always nicer on the white kids and give them less time get lesser charges.
what your sayin is irrelevant because at the end of the day when a minority gets charged he gets more time n more community service. so ur sayin they deserve to serve their time when they get more than what their supposed to? decide their guilty witout sufficient evidence?
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
Umm there have been numerous hate crimes that white people commited in that town against the same black kids that got punished and all got away with it. Like a white man at a gas station with nooses in his truck pulled a gun on some of the black kids and one of the black kids got the gun away from him and was charged with theft of the gun. Tell me thats not some shit there. God knows what else those fucking hicks got away with.
See you're the perfect example of the stupidity I speak of. You are a victim of it. You had to out of your way to mention the nosses on the truck like that makes a difference. Hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws. If the guy went up to them with a gun then he he should be charged. If the guy was was approached by the young men in an attempt to be beaten and he took the gun out for protection and they stole it then they should be charged. What the white man's racial beliefs are, no matter how stupid, has no bearing on what the charges or public perception should be.
So what if he's racist. It's not illegal to be an asshole. If my mother died in some freak accident and the next day some asshole neighbor of mine who didn't like her out up a shrine in front of his house with a picture of her with markered devil horns and a mustache and had "ding dong the witch is dead" playing through his speakers I'd be very upset. But if I beat the shit out of the guy for doing it I'd still have to suffer the penalty. Why? Because disrepect does not justify voilence.
Whoa, calm the fuck down man i was just challenging your opinion. White people there have commited alot more violence against blacks down there and only got a slap on the wrist for it. And you saying hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws is wrong. Do copyright laws involve violence and discrimination?
For the record, I wasn't calling you stupid and I wasn't upset.
First I openned the wiki article the statement that I don't know what happened. I did not once say they were guilty of the crime and even admitted that they may not be.
Now, that doesn't change your false logic. Just because the system in unjust with regards to area does not excuse crime. It's never okay to beat down a kid like that. I don't know how many times a a group of whit kids sent a black kid to the hospital and got nothing for it in Jena but how does that excuse what the Jena 6 may have done? If you killed a man's family and plead not guilty because white people get away with it, could you look the man who lost his family in the eyes and say that?
Any white kid that gets a group od his friends to beat the shit out of a black kid, gets a slap on the wrists and goes on in life thinking it's not a big deal is a white kid that will end up very terrible human being. They type of human being I'm glad I'm not. Standing up so that black kids can become those type of mosters too is nothing to be proud of.
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I'm not American so may I ask you if I got that right: Black students fuck white students up, get punished, then a horde of blacks from all over the country comes protesting, because they basically want to legalize blacks lynching whites? is that right?
There's been a lot of racial tension in that small town for a while. They just want fairness...either free the minors or put all the white people on probation in jail too for pretty much the same crime.
All the white people in that town are beating down blacks and leaving them with concussions?
Umm there have been numerous hate crimes that white people commited in that town against the same black kids that got punished and all got away with it. Like a white man at a gas station with nooses in his truck pulled a gun on some of the black kids and one of the black kids got the gun away from him and was charged with theft of the gun. Tell me thats not some shit there. God knows what else those fucking hicks got away with.
See you're the perfect example of the stupidity I speak of. You are a victim of it. You had to out of your way to mention the nosses on the truck like that makes a difference. Hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws. If the guy went up to them with a gun then he he should be charged. If the guy was was approached by the young men in an attempt to be beaten and he took the gun out for protection and they stole it then they should be charged. What the white man's racial beliefs are, no matter how stupid, has no bearing on what the charges or public perception should be.
So what if he's racist. It's not illegal to be an asshole. If my mother died in some freak accident and the next day some asshole neighbor of mine who didn't like her out up a shrine in front of his house with a picture of her with markered devil horns and a mustache and had "ding dong the witch is dead" playing through his speakers I'd be very upset. But if I beat the shit out of the guy for doing it I'd still have to suffer the penalty. Why? Because disrepect does not justify voilence.
Whoa, calm the fuck down man i was just challenging your opinion. White people there have commited alot more violence against blacks down there and only got a slap on the wrist for it. And you saying hate crimes are as stupid as copyright laws is wrong. Do copyright laws involve violence and discrimination?
For the record, I wasn't calling you stupid and I wasn't upset.
First I openned the wiki article the statement that I don't know what happened. I did not once say they were guilty of the crime and even admitted that they may not be.
Now, that doesn't change your false logic. Just because the system in unjust with regards to area does not excuse crime. It's never okay to beat down a kid like that. I don't know how many times a a group of whit kids sent a black kid to the hospital and got nothing for it in Jena but how does that excuse what the Jena 6 may have done? If you killed a man's family and plead not guilty because white people get away with it, could you look the man who lost his family in the eyes and say that?
Any white kid that gets a group od his friends to beat the shit out of a black kid, gets a slap on the wrists and goes on in life thinking it's not a big deal is a white kid that will end up very terrible human being. They type of human being I'm glad I'm not. Standing up so that black kids can become those type of mosters too is nothing to be proud of.
LOL ok my bad for responding the way i did but you're making it sound like i'm saying they shouldn't be punished at all. All i'm saying is they should get fair punishment and more discipline to everyone else who has commited any kind of crime in this whole situation.
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Fuck fairness. They should be set as an example. Black people get too emotional over punishment. They do something wrong and when they get punished they complain and wanna look back 40 years for an excuse. ITS 2007!!! Fact of the matter is, THEY COMMITTED A CRIME. It's like these motherfuckers want these kids to get off scott free. Hanging a fuckin noose on a tree does not give you the right to beat someone within an inch of their life.
Call me an Uncle Tom, I don't give a fuck, but these motherfuckers act like little kids marching talking about injustice, ignoring the fact that those kids are wrong. If kids got this kind of punishment more often, racial violence and violence overall wouldn't happen. This is why they dont have this problem in places like the Middle East and Singapore.
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they were probably frontin on some mandingo shit anyway like, "oh you gonna let us sit here" do those honkeys just put that there to get back
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This Jena 6 shit is the biggest bunch of bullshit ever.
The three kids that hung the nooses did it 3 months before the beating. The beating wasn't in retaliation, and the nooses don't excuse the kids beating the white kid up.
They beat the kid up, like fucking cowards, 6 on 1. I say 'fuck em. They ought to murder all 6 of the punk motherfuckers. Anything short of murder that they get, they ought to be happy with.
Another thing, they shouldn't and didn't have the right to kill that fucking tree just because some dumbasses were using it as a white supremecy thing or whatever. It had nothing to do with the tree, and the trees been standing there for 50 fucking years just trying to live. You don't kill a tree just because some kids act up, I'm no fucking tree hugger but there's a right and a wrong in the universe and killing something that's beautiful and has stood for 50 years just because of a bunch of punks is WRONG, tha'ts not the order of the world.