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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: wcsoldier on October 05, 2007, 08:19:01 AM
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http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/october/nas/survivingthetimes.mp3
Thanks to Spinemag ... that's Nas at his best
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Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
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Props, I love real hip hop!!!!!! 1+
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Nice
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Damn this shit is so sick!!!!
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Great track
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wow!! fuckin great!
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Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
isnt that song known by everybody, from the Rush Hour 3 OST
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WOAH, this is like nas's old shit!! CHRIS WEBBER really outdid himslf with this beat!! This and Blunt Ashes are dope as fuck 8)
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Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
isnt that song known by everybody, from the Rush Hour 3 OST
Didnt know that, hook up please.
And damn, Chris Webber did this ? Dude got talent.
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That sounds great! But I'm not waiting for Nas's "Greatest Hits", cuz if I want, I can come back to his albums from back in the days.
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Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
isnt that song known by everybody, from the Rush Hour 3 OST
Yea, I was confused because if this is on a greatest hits cd, then how could it be exclusive , etc. but whatever its cool song, didn't know it was on the soundtrack of rush hour 3
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theres apprently one new track on the greatest hits. Isn't Chris Webber a basketball player ???
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This is a great track! Props
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Damn, listenin him reminisce on how he and Akinyele were trying to find a deal back in the day is some truly sick shit man, props
Excellent track 8)
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Dope track indeed
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This is a great track! Props
You said it!
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fucking amazing! prpz
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Man, been bumpin' this track no-stop.
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now this is what im talking about, great track :)
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Damn, imagine if this was the standard for hiphop.
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prizzops, great track!
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sicc... 8) great track
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Thats the shiiiiiit
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what sample is that in the beat
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love it
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Wow this is better than every song on 'Hip Hop Is Dead'.
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I've bumped this about 10 times today. Beat is sick.
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what sample is that in the beat
Nippey Russell - What Would I Do if i Could Feel, off "The Wiz" soundtrack.
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Nas rules
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I've bumped this about 10 times today. Beat is sick.
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good song, a bit of controversy surrounding the track though...
(from D12World/Wordsmith's MySpace)
Wordsmith Issued Statement,
It has been brought to Wordsmith's attention that Nas released a track last Friday called "Surviving the Game/Times" that closely resembles his track, "As the Art Fades Away," Produced by Strada. Word is a huge Nas fan, so he is sad to see something like this is possible and he doesn't want to jump to conclusions either. Word debated over even speaking on this issue because he is not trying to build his career off of someone else's fame and he prides himself on that. Wordsmith had this to say:
I wrote my track "As the Art Fades Away" in 2006, as an unofficial version that I actually recently re-recorded for my debut album "The Next Level Experience" on Saturday, October 6th until I heard about this. My in house producer Strada made this beat a year ago and I am here to just state the facts and not attack Nas, so I just ask that everyone judges this fairly. No producer is going start a track the exact same way and no producer is going use the same sounds, loops, rhythems, etc. to create a track. My version starts off with a sample of my own voice saying "The pop rap charts make the art fade away" followed by "That's the whole tragic point my friend." Now, whoever produced Nas's version, and I heard its Chris Webber, which sounds rather odd to me, would not start there track off with the same sample unless they heard it somewhere else first. To me they strung the sample out from there, so it would sound different, but the piano, horn, and baseline are exactly the same way my producer laid his.
Two, my producer used "What Would I do" as the hook part of my song and I Chose to fill it in by saying Imagine if certain rappers never did what they did, how would the game be. Nas's version uses the same concept, but the producer uses a different section of the song where its says,"What Would I do," from the Wiz and just looped the hook. I have never officially released this track and it can only be heard on my myspace page. I put it out last year because I felt the game really needed it, but I like I said I have re-recorded it with no samples and a female singing on the hook, so it is radio ready to be dropped as my first official single on December 1st. I still filed it with ASCAP last year and anybody can look up my name at ascap.com to see I registered it last year along with the BDS. Furthermore, Nas has the same concept as me and I just want to say this again, no two rappers are going write about the same thing when they hear a beat and no two producers are going to produce a beat the same exact way. With that said, that's what makes music unique; the fact that any musician has the creative freedom to create something special from scratch, that's what keeps music fresh. I don't really know what else to say, but that I am disappointed in one of our greats, but at the same time, I do not know Nas or Chris Webber for that matter, so I can't really say what happened. I do know the Wiz movie has been out there since Nas and I were kids and millions of producers could of sampled it, but my Producer Strada had the idea first, so that tells me something, but until the facts come out I am just speculating.
Finally, please don't look at this as I am complaining because I am not, I just felt the need to speak on it because so many great people have come to my defense, so I would like to thank everyone out there for that and I even would like to think any haters as well because we all have a job to do. So what I have done is post links to both tracks below, pleasecheck them out and leave your comments. Thanks for everyone's time and lets not make this a bash session, but a good old fashioned challenge to Nas and the fans. Let us know who has the better track because my official version of "As the Art Fades Away" will drop on December 1st followed by the Video on MTV and BET, so look out for me, PEACE!!!
Wordsmith-As the Art Fades Away (Produced by Strada/Click for Unofficial Release on Myspace)
http://myspace.com/classicwordsmithmusic
http://board.rapbasement.com/showthread.php?t=386219
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good song, a bit of controversy surrounding the track though...
(from D12World/Wordsmith's MySpace)
Wordsmith Issued Statement,
It has been brought to Wordsmith's attention that Nas released a track last Friday called "Surviving the Game/Times" that closely resembles his track, "As the Art Fades Away," Produced by Strada. Word is a huge Nas fan, so he is sad to see something like this is possible and he doesn't want to jump to conclusions either. Word debated over even speaking on this issue because he is not trying to build his career off of someone else's fame and he prides himself on that. Wordsmith had this to say:
I wrote my track "As the Art Fades Away" in 2006, as an unofficial version that I actually recently re-recorded for my debut album "The Next Level Experience" on Saturday, October 6th until I heard about this. My in house producer Strada made this beat a year ago and I am here to just state the facts and not attack Nas, so I just ask that everyone judges this fairly. No producer is going start a track the exact same way and no producer is going use the same sounds, loops, rhythems, etc. to create a track. My version starts off with a sample of my own voice saying "The pop rap charts make the art fade away" followed by "That's the whole tragic point my friend." Now, whoever produced Nas's version, and I heard its Chris Webber, which sounds rather odd to me, would not start there track off with the same sample unless they heard it somewhere else first. To me they strung the sample out from there, so it would sound different, but the piano, horn, and baseline are exactly the same way my producer laid his.
Two, my producer used "What Would I do" as the hook part of my song and I Chose to fill it in by saying Imagine if certain rappers never did what they did, how would the game be. Nas's version uses the same concept, but the producer uses a different section of the song where its says,"What Would I do," from the Wiz and just looped the hook. I have never officially released this track and it can only be heard on my myspace page. I put it out last year because I felt the game really needed it, but I like I said I have re-recorded it with no samples and a female singing on the hook, so it is radio ready to be dropped as my first official single on December 1st. I still filed it with ASCAP last year and anybody can look up my name at ascap.com to see I registered it last year along with the BDS. Furthermore, Nas has the same concept as me and I just want to say this again, no two rappers are going write about the same thing when they hear a beat and no two producers are going to produce a beat the same exact way. With that said, that's what makes music unique; the fact that any musician has the creative freedom to create something special from scratch, that's what keeps music fresh. I don't really know what else to say, but that I am disappointed in one of our greats, but at the same time, I do not know Nas or Chris Webber for that matter, so I can't really say what happened. I do know the Wiz movie has been out there since Nas and I were kids and millions of producers could of sampled it, but my Producer Strada had the idea first, so that tells me something, but until the facts come out I am just speculating.
Finally, please don't look at this as I am complaining because I am not, I just felt the need to speak on it because so many great people have come to my defense, so I would like to thank everyone out there for that and I even would like to think any haters as well because we all have a job to do. So what I have done is post links to both tracks below, pleasecheck them out and leave your comments. Thanks for everyone's time and lets not make this a bash session, but a good old fashioned challenge to Nas and the fans. Let us know who has the better track because my official version of "As the Art Fades Away" will drop on December 1st followed by the Video on MTV and BET, so look out for me, PEACE!!!
Wordsmith-As the Art Fades Away (Produced by Strada/Click for Unofficial Release on Myspace)
http://myspace.com/classicwordsmithmusic
http://board.rapbasement.com/showthread.php?t=386219
Hmmn it'll be interesting to see how this pans outs, wonder if CHRIS WEBBER (Yes, the basketball player and producer of 'Blunt Ashes') really robbed this beat ??? ....
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yeah those beats sound identical. Dude's version is not bad either