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Title: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 04:03:16 PM
Wife tells of negative reactions from fellow Anglos

Why does the word Mexican, or categorizing someone as a Mexican, sound so dirty to some people these days?

On the flip side, why does American, or being an American, sound so heroic, particularly as it relates to the debate about immigration?

When the opportunity presents itself, I proudly mention that my husband is Mexican, and I intentionally wait to observe the facial reactions of disbelief and mild disgust. To many Anglo-Americans, the word "Mexican" elicits images of uneducated, sweaty illegal immigrants sneaking across the borders to fulfill menial tasks or, even worse, violent crimes.

I'll never forget the day when I first realized my husband was, in a word, "Mexican."

It was three years after we'd been married, and on July 4, 2005, Independence Day in the United States, sadly and ironically enough: While working in our yard, an unknown vehicle slowly came to a halt in front of our house.

The driver proceeded to ask my husband how much he charged. My husband was wearing dark shades, ragged clothes and a hat that held a long cloth in place to cover his neck. Just by the way he looked, he was dehumanized and his nationality was reduced to a set of unfounded stereotypes.

Before that day, I saw my husband, who moved to the United States in 2002, as an intelligent, hardworking and caring individual. His nationality and cultural roots were pieces of his identity that I found attractive. But that day, I became aware of how Anglo-American society saw him "that way," and it was a deeply painful and angering experience.

Recently, Mexicans marked Mexico's Independence Day, which is celebrated on the eve of Sept. 16 and marks the day in 1810 when Father Miguel Hidalgo and other revolutionaries led an inspired people to revolt against Spanish rule with a simple ring of a bell and a powerful grito de independencia (cry of independence). Since the word Mexican today carries so many labels, I wonder if one of them could be considered revolutionary in the wake of the immigration debate.

But what kind of Mexican is deemed revolutionary? Is it the esteemed and well-educated Mexican national who's offered a corporate position that could have equally been fulfilled by an American? Or should we even consider the Mexican who risks his life to cross the border in hopes of making $50 a day to send home? Or is the Mexican-American who straddles two worlds in hopes of finding balance and mutual acceptance revolutionary enough?

Regardless of definition, I believe that each of these Mexicans is revolutionary, leading a battle against political injustice and discrimination in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.

There are too many "quick fixes" thrown around in the immigration debate. Building fences will not speak to the heart of the issue. It will only lead more individuals to their deaths. To find a real solution, authentic communication and empathic understanding for cultural, social, and economic differences and sameness must be explored. Regardless if one person is a Mexican and the other an American, we are both human. We breathe the same air, and we inherently have the same needs to survive on this planet.

Hispanic leaders — such as Rodolfo Neri Vela, the first Mexican astronaut to orbit space on a joint expedition with NASA, and the late Houston restaurateur Ninfa Rodriguez Laurenzo — have positively influenced American culture, furthering technology, diversity and cross-cultural awareness. Lasting immigration policy must get beyond negative stereotypes and work to improve the lives of both Mexicans and Americans.

I hope that one day I won't have to worry about how my son will interpret society's stereotype of him being Mexican-American. My gringa hope is that my son will not experience racism because of the color of his light brown skin or his dark brown eyes; rather I hope he will live a life full of promise and success, not because of his ethnicity, but because of his natural talents and ambitions.

Why don't we take a step today and declare independence from the Mexican stereotype? We should embrace a new definition of a people so passionately led almost 200 years ago that cried out, "¡Viva México!" ("Long live Mexico!"), and all that that entails.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 04:16:09 PM
Wife tells of negative reactions from fellow Anglos

Why does the word Mexican, or categorizing someone as a Mexican, sound so dirty to some people these days?

On the flip side, why does American, or being an American, sound so heroic, particularly as it relates to the debate about immigration?

When the opportunity presents itself, I proudly mention that my husband is Mexican, and I intentionally wait to observe the facial reactions of disbelief and mild disgust. To many Anglo-Americans, the word "Mexican" elicits images of uneducated, sweaty illegal immigrants sneaking across the borders to fulfill menial tasks or, even worse, violent crimes.


totally subjective, logical fallacy. article disqualified
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 04:48:35 PM
Wife tells of negative reactions from fellow Anglos

Why does the word Mexican, or categorizing someone as a Mexican, sound so dirty to some people these days?

On the flip side, why does American, or being an American, sound so heroic, particularly as it relates to the debate about immigration?

When the opportunity presents itself, I proudly mention that my husband is Mexican, and I intentionally wait to observe the facial reactions of disbelief and mild disgust. To many Anglo-Americans, the word "Mexican" elicits images of uneducated, sweaty illegal immigrants sneaking across the borders to fulfill menial tasks or, even worse, violent crimes.


totally subjective, logical fallacy. article disqualified
What about it you do not agree wit?
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 08:36:21 PM
Wife tells of negative reactions from fellow Anglos

Why does the word Mexican, or categorizing someone as a Mexican, sound so dirty to some people these days?

On the flip side, why does American, or being an American, sound so heroic, particularly as it relates to the debate about immigration?

When the opportunity presents itself, I proudly mention that my husband is Mexican, and I intentionally wait to observe the facial reactions of disbelief and mild disgust. To many Anglo-Americans, the word "Mexican" elicits images of uneducated, sweaty illegal immigrants sneaking across the borders to fulfill menial tasks or, even worse, violent crimes.


totally subjective, logical fallacy. article disqualified
What about it you do not agree wit?

mexican doesnt equal dirty, american doesnt equal heroic. that is the authors biased opinion in which she is basing the whole article on. case in point, article flawed from the get go
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 09:27:38 PM
Wife tells of negative reactions from fellow Anglos

Why does the word Mexican, or categorizing someone as a Mexican, sound so dirty to some people these days?

On the flip side, why does American, or being an American, sound so heroic, particularly as it relates to the debate about immigration?

When the opportunity presents itself, I proudly mention that my husband is Mexican, and I intentionally wait to observe the facial reactions of disbelief and mild disgust. To many Anglo-Americans, the word "Mexican" elicits images of uneducated, sweaty illegal immigrants sneaking across the borders to fulfill menial tasks or, even worse, violent crimes.


totally subjective, logical fallacy. article disqualified
What about it you do not agree wit?

mexican doesnt equal dirty, american doesnt equal heroic. that is the authors biased opinion in which she is basing the whole article on. case in point, article flawed from the get go
Well, I mean obviously those word don't actually mean that, but come on now, lets be real. I live in reality and I know what I see and hear around here and for you to say that a good majority of the population doesn't hold views like that, then your in denial.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 09:36:19 PM
NO YOU JUST LIVE AROUND STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE THW POLAR OPPOSITE OF YOUR NARROW PERSPECTIVE. you'll never get it though, most of the populations iq is lumped into the same area, you're just another fucking moron with different opinion than the morons in your little reality.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 09:39:01 PM
NO YOU JUST LIVE AROUND STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE THW POLAR OPPOSITE OF YOUR NARROW PERSPECTIVE. you'll never get it though, most of the populations iq is lumped into the same area, you're just another fucking moron with different opinion than the morons in your little reality.
Oh please shut the fuck up man for real. I guess the truth does hurt. who the fuck are you captain American. get the fuck out of here and stay in denial. getting all hyped up behind a computer hahaha omg people these days.WOW
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 09:41:13 PM
look at you chump, trying to drop knowledge sharing your little stupid ass editorials from dumb white bitches thinking theyre special and so cultured. i think i'm living in a more real world than you are. i actually grew up with diversity and distrust for the government cuz i witnessed things like police brutality. youre just a well off little fag who got ahold of a dead prez cd and now he thinks he's fuckin elijah muhammed. get outta here
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: Smoke Break on October 08, 2007, 09:41:44 PM
I wish I could blame white people for every one of my problems and insecurities.


Oh, and $50 says this bitch is a whale.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: Machiavelli on October 08, 2007, 09:47:23 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 09:50:08 PM
i think this bitch is racist and is just thankful someone payed attention to her
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 09:52:25 PM
look at you chump, trying to drop knowledge sharing your little stupid ass editorials from dumb white bitches thinking theyre special and so cultured. i think i'm living in a more real world than you are. i actually grew up with diversity and distrust for the government cuz i witnessed things like police brutality. youre just a well off little fag who got ahold of a dead prez cd and now he thinks he's fuckin elijah muhammed. get outta here
Would you like a cookie? Don't get mad cuz the truth hurts ::) No your just straight up whack and also I grow in diversity and who the fuck hasn't seen any police brutality in their life time not to even mention now of days. So does that make you special. Go put your face in a pillow and scream in.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 09:55:03 PM
just stop it. stop bullshitting me, stop bullshitting the dub, youre just trying to take advantage of younger and dumber cats here by tugging at their heart with your little bullshit tot posts.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: Machiavelli on October 08, 2007, 09:57:18 PM
the point is people who hold stereotypes and prejudices, are ignorant and don't deserve an opinion, and shouldnt be taken seriously...
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 09:58:32 PM
the point is people who hold stereotypes and prejudices, are ignorant and don't deserve an opinion, and shouldnt be taken seriously...

mos def, and my main thing about this bitch is that she is furthering stereotypes by suggesting to us caucazoids that we all despise Mexicans...
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 10:09:55 PM
just stop it. stop bullshitting me, stop bullshitting the dub, youre just trying to take advantage of younger and dumber cats here by tugging at their heart with your little bullshit tot posts.
younger? how old are you middle school or something. And why the fuck would I need to take advantage of anybody, you cant be serious. If you can't take what I drop in here whose fault is that?? Last time I check TOT-A place for reflection on religious, political, psychological, social, life and more serious issues.
the point is people who hold stereotypes and prejudices, are ignorant and don't deserve an opinion, and shouldnt be taken seriously...

mos def, and my main thing about this bitch is that she is furthering stereotypes by suggesting to us caucazoids that we all despise Mexicans...
When did to many equal to all?
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 10:12:52 PM
oh wait a minute it says boycriedwolfs from tampa florida he is surrounded by narrow minded shit all the time. dude come to cali i'll show u true harmony to the point where we can say racist things and have it be actually funny!! where a buncha white girls i know have mexican and philipino and black husbands, dude its all love now that i know ur from hicksville, your racism towards whites suddenly makes sense. its all good baby, come to the coast, you'll become way more chill
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 08, 2007, 10:17:07 PM
yo man we can do this all night no homo, but bottom line is your opinion comes from being a backwards ass place in the south so you really dont have any experience with tru racial harmony. thats why you'll always be gassed up about malcolm and anything anti white. theats the bottom line. so i dont got anything else to say to you except take a chill pill and learn to love your caucazoid brothers and their culture cuz it's yours too.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 10:17:11 PM
oh wait a minute it says boycriedwolfs from tampa florida he is surrounded by narrow minded shit all the time. dude come to cali i'll show u true harmony to the point where we can say racist things and have it be actually funny!! where a buncha white girls i know have mexican and philipino and black husbands, dude its all love now that i know ur from hicksville, your racism towards whites suddenly makes sense. its all good baby, come to the coast, you'll become way more chill
hahahaha wow do not assume. for your info I lived out in California southern California  and new jersey and now I live in Tampa and if you think Tampa is hickville your in for some surprise. lol at your looking at my profile thinking you exposed someone and matter of fact i be out in daygo damn near ever summer. so please man with all that. true def of a clown
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 08, 2007, 10:20:49 PM
yo man we can do this all night no homo, but bottom line is your opinion comes from being a backwards ass place in the south so you really dont have any experience with tru racial harmony. thats why you'll always be gassed up about malcolm and anything anti white. theats the bottom line. so i dont got anything else to say to you except take a chill pill and learn to love your caucazoid brothers and their culture cuz it's yours too.
Your right we can and im actually done after this but you just played yourself assuming you know shit about me. Also how do you get to the conclusion that I get hyped up from everything anti-white. Foday is anti white if you need clarity. man people these days but im out we cant get back on this tomorrow
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: Machiavelli on October 08, 2007, 10:26:22 PM
you know the funny thing? People categorize mexicans as a different race, when in fact most are mestizoshalf white, and half amerindian (Mongoloid race)
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: Narrator on October 09, 2007, 07:20:01 PM
Fuck a spic.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 09, 2007, 07:40:33 PM
Fuck a spic.
???
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 09, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
Fuck a spic.
:baseballbat:
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BuddenzNasir on October 10, 2007, 10:43:02 AM
LMFAO Bananas is one of those fucking morons who says "come to where i live, over here its like this and that and this"....you fucking ignorant moron, you must be kidding right? Cali is SO MUCH DIFFERENT than florida is...just stop. and I been at Tampa too...and their are mad white girls running around married to minorities too. O SHIT WATCH OUT NOW florida is on some crazy shit! cali here we come!...LOL o wow. This is america...diversity is everywhere just about. Cali isnt any different.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 10, 2007, 03:48:10 PM
LMFAO Bananas is one of those fucking morons who says "come to where i live, over here its like this and that and this"....you fucking ignorant moron, you must be kidding right? Cali is SO MUCH DIFFERENT than florida is...just stop. and I been at Tampa too...and their are mad white girls running around married to minorities too. O SHIT WATCH OUT NOW florida is on some crazy shit! cali here we come!...LOL o wow. This is america...diversity is everywhere just about. Cali isnt any different.
Title: Re: Wed to a Mexican: It's time to end the stereotypes
Post by: BANANAS on October 10, 2007, 09:59:38 PM
dont be mad guys be glad