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Title: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM
i dunno what made me think about this but i did

you know all the important people in history like DR. Martin Luther King Jr, and Malcolm X and others,
some fought with peace against violence and some said fuck it if u got guns we gona get guns like the black panthers

i think if muthafuckers come at you with shit then you have the right to fuck them up. IMO

see that fool ghandi, i think he was a retard for starving himself and shit for peace and shit. didnt his ass get shot anyway?

i just think if one side wants to kick you, punch you, shoot at you and take away your natural rights then you have the right to fuck them up by any way.


your thought?

 

some good quotes
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."

"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."

PS: Eleven 2 Three i'd appreciate it if your sensitive ass didn't post in my thread, i wouldnt want your tampon all bloodied up b4 you went to bed
thank you

Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Sparegeez on December 31, 2007, 02:41:02 AM
I think violence can solve the problem temporarily, but in the long run it would create even more problems.

Peace is a slow but sure process.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:45:02 AM
I think violence can solve the problem temporarily, but in the long run it would create even more problems.
not if you kill the problem
lol
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on December 31, 2007, 02:08:35 PM
Peace is a good thing and at the end of the day people want that (except these secret societies etc.) Now I think the only time violence is an issue, is when so colored people are using it to defend their human rights and to get freedom. When violence is used in that way by so called colored people all of a sudden its a problem. So called colored people are now labeled terrorists etc-but there was no such thing when America used violence to get its freedom; no such during the french revolution etc.- IT WAS ALL GOOD when violence was used to benefit the caucasian. So like you said i believe if someone tends to kill, rape, pillage your area then talking to them isnt going to be the smartest thing to do- its just that now these caucasians want to condition so called colored people into thinking that  protecting your life and your rights shouldn't be done by violence but with peace talking-YEAH FUCKING,RIGHT. They know damn well thats not how they operate so why should us, so called colored people operate that way. REMEMBER USING VIOLENCE WAS NEVER A PROBLEM WHEN THE caucasian USED IT-BUT WHEN SO CALLED COLORED PEOPLE USED IT ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY'RE LABELED TERRORISTS. so yes if a nigga is coming at you with every intention of doing the max harm to you, put that nigga in the cemetery, he doesnt deserved to live then-yo did society a favor also.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 31, 2007, 04:12:26 PM
They balance each other out.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 04:21:20 PM
Peace is a good thing and at the end of the day people want that (except these secret societies etc.) Now I think the only time violence is an issue, is when so colored people are using it to defend their human rights and to get freedom. When violence is used in that way by so called colored people all of a sudden its a problem. So called colored people are now labeled terrorists etc-but there was no such thing when America used violence to get its freedom; no such during the french revolution etc.- IT WAS ALL GOOD when violence was used to benefit the caucasian. So like you said i believe if someone tends to kill, rape, pillage your area then talking to them isnt going to be the smartest thing to do- its just that now these caucasians want to condition so called colored people into thinking that  protecting your life and your rights shouldn't be done by violence but with peace talking-YEAH FUCKING,RIGHT. They know damn well thats not how they operate so why should us, so called colored people operate that way. REMEMBER USING VIOLENCE WAS NEVER A PROBLEM WHEN THE caucasian USED IT-BUT WHEN SO CALLED COLORED PEOPLE USED IT ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY'RE LABELED TERRORISTS. so yes if a nigga is coming at you with every intention of doing the max harm to you, put that nigga in the cemetery, he doesnt deserved to live then-yo did society a favor also.
props
well said
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 31, 2007, 07:21:23 PM
....Islam is peace through submission to Allah, peace through the 5 daily prayers, peace through the self-denial and content brought through fasting...

...similarly, Buddism teaches about peace through prayer, meditation, and breaking attatchments to the world...

...Rasta's talk about peace, love, and respect, and the African being a naturally peaceful being....

...Christians say Jesus was all about peace, even to the point of self-sacrifice and self-effacement......

...Some find peace through the movements and focused breathing of Yoga (props to Russel Simmons)...

Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 07:48:32 PM
....Islam is peace through submission to Allah, peace through the 5 daily prayers, peace through the self-denial and content brought through fasting...

...similarly, Buddism teaches about peace through prayer, meditation, and breaking attatchments to the world...

...Rasta's talk about peace, love, and respect, and the African being a naturally peaceful being....

...Christians say Jesus was all about peace, even to the point of self-sacrifice and self-effacement......

...Some find peace through the movements and focused breathing of Yoga (props to Russel Simmons)...


but i int sayin peace is bad
im saying, how can you yell peace when muthafuckas be getting violent at you
i believe you shouldnt get violent unless someone else starts it first, then u have to.
dont be the first to swing but handle yo business when some one else fucks with you.
u get what im sayin?
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 31, 2007, 08:20:14 PM
but i int sayin peace is bad
im saying, how can you yell peace when muthafuckas be getting violent at you
i believe you shouldnt get violent unless someone else starts it first, then u have to.
dont be the first to swing but handle yo business when some one else fucks with you.
u get what im sayin?

Word... I get what your saying... there's a point when peacefullness can become cowardness if you let injustice pervail.  But you can't lose your cool, you have to stay focused and righteous throughout.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Machiavelli on January 01, 2008, 02:03:15 AM
peace wins in the long run
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Trauma-san on January 01, 2008, 06:22:30 AM
I think people are foolish to think that we live in horrible times.  The world is much better off today than it was 10 years ago and much better off then than it was 50 years ago and much better off then than it was 1000 years ago.  We're obviously slowly marching towards more peace in the world.

Peace usually comes after sustained violence, btw.  When one country or one culture or civilization half-ass destroys another, that's when you get peace.

We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 01, 2008, 11:16:36 AM
peace wins in the long run
so if someone was going to yo house takin all yo shit, beatin yo ass, u would get into the fetal position and wait for peace?
 ;D
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 01, 2008, 11:20:49 AM
I think people are foolish to think that we live in horrible times.  The world is much better off today than it was 10 years ago and much better off then than it was 50 years ago and much better off then than it was 1000 years ago.  We're obviously slowly marching towards more peace in the world.

Peace usually comes after sustained violence, btw.  When one country or one culture or civilization half-ass destroys another, that's when you get peace.

We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 
i dunno about "whitening up the world" but i think america should let those low class terrorists blow each other up until they wipe each other out, but on  the other hand every one of those marines and army people should be after bin ladens faggot ass.

the "black gangs" will diminish when there community gets better schools and more work opportunity.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on January 01, 2008, 11:25:06 AM
I think people are foolish to think that we live in horrible times.  The world is much better off today than it was 10 years ago and much better off then than it was 50 years ago and much better off then than it was 1000 years ago.  We're obviously slowly marching towards more peace in the world.

Peace usually comes after sustained violence, btw.  When one country or one culture or civilization half-ass destroys another, that's when you get peace.

We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 
you gullible ass clown falling for propaganda. LAUGHIN at "whiten" this world up- I know no doubt that thats the devils plan.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Narrator on January 01, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 

But that's not going to happen; it is not what Allah intended.  Instead, we are going to wipe the devil off the Earth forever, and all you crackers will perish on Judgment Day.  THEN there will be peace.  But you personally, and the rest of your Yakub Crew brethren, are about to lose everything to us.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 01, 2008, 02:09:43 PM
I think people are foolish to think that we live in horrible times.  The world is much better off today than it was 10 years ago and much better off then than it was 50 years ago and much better off then than it was 1000 years ago.  We're obviously slowly marching towards more peace in the world.

Peace usually comes after sustained violence, btw.  When one country or one culture or civilization half-ass destroys another, that's when you get peace.

We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 

Today, we are living in a concrete jungle.  This is hardly an era of greater mental and spiritual prosperity. 

They've taken many polls to gauge the overal happiness of white people in America and Europe and all reports show that rates of happiness has decreased, that people are experiencing greater fear and worry, and that perscription drug use is at an all time high. 

The real life exists in the case of one's skull, and technological advances don't always equal happiness.  America is the most violent country on Earth, and Britian has the bloodiest history of any country on Earth.  If you want to see peace and love visit the poor regions of black West Africa.

As far as black gangs, if you want to eliminate gang violence, then the white man (Bush) would support Ron Paul's policy for drug legalization.   
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on January 01, 2008, 02:35:35 PM
I think people are foolish to think that we live in horrible times.  The world is much better off today than it was 10 years ago and much better off then than it was 50 years ago and much better off then than it was 1000 years ago.  We're obviously slowly marching towards more peace in the world.

Peace usually comes after sustained violence, btw.  When one country or one culture or civilization half-ass destroys another, that's when you get peace.

We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 

Today, we are living in a concrete jungle.  This is hardly an era of greater mental and spiritual prosperity. 

They've taken many polls to gauge the overal happiness of white people in America and Europe and all reports show that rates of happiness has decreased, that people are experiencing greater fear and worry, and that perscription drug use is at an all time high. 

The real life exists in the case of one's skull, and technological advances don't always equal happiness.  America is the most violent country on Earth, and Britian has the bloodiest history of any country on Earth.  If you want to see peace and love visit the poor regions of black Africa.

As far as black gangs, if you want to eliminate gang violence, then the white man (Bush) would support Ron Paul's policy for drug legalization.   

I agree with everything you said except the legalization of drugs being the answer to black gangs.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 01, 2008, 04:15:45 PM
there will never be peace
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 01, 2008, 08:18:49 PM
I believe if someone breaks into your house, you have the right to shoot and kill them.

However, I strongly believe non-violent non cooperation is the most effective way to bring about change.  People like Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, and Ghandi were brilliant in the fact that they understood the hypocrisy of speaking out against hate while simultaneously inciting hate.

Good topic by the way.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 01, 2008, 08:20:07 PM
I think people are foolish to think that we live in horrible times.  The world is much better off today than it was 10 years ago and much better off then than it was 50 years ago and much better off then than it was 1000 years ago.  We're obviously slowly marching towards more peace in the world.

Peace usually comes after sustained violence, btw.  When one country or one culture or civilization half-ass destroys another, that's when you get peace.

We're slowly wiping all these islam extremists out in the world.  That will go a long way towards peace.  If we can attack the black gangs and shit right here in America a little more, we'll really clean and whiten the world up. 

All I can say to you is turn off your television.  You're asleep at the wheel bro.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Primo on January 01, 2008, 09:01:24 PM
Violence is like a disease. You cannot spread peace threw violence because it breeds more violence. The only way I think you should kill another human is if they are a direct threat to you or a loved one.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 01, 2008, 10:58:50 PM
Violence is like a disease. You cannot spread peace threw violence because it breeds more violence. The only way I think you should kill another human is if they are a direct threat to you or a loved one.
exactly
end of topic
props doggie i couldnt get that out
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Elevz on January 02, 2008, 12:09:35 PM
Ignoring the pointless tampon comments, this sure is an interesting topic.

you know all the important people in history like DR. Martin Luther King Jr, and Malcolm X and others,
some fought with peace against violence and some said fuck it if u got guns we gona get guns like the black panthers

i think if muthafuckers come at you with shit then you have the right to fuck them up. IMO

Violence should only be allowed in self-defense. You have the right to protect yourself against a threat to your life and your rightful freedoms. No more, no less. That doesn't justify punching someone who accidentally stands on your toes, or shooting someone who purposely kicks you against the knee, and it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.


see that fool ghandi, i think he was a retard for starving himself and shit for peace and shit. didnt his ass get shot anyway?

I find it hard to judge the motives of another man I know little of. His actions probably didn't change a whole lot about the way people behave, but at the same time, you did mention his name straight away when you talk about peace or pacifism. Starving for peace won't really solve anything though.


some good quotes
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."

The possibility to achieve freedom can be granted by a rightful society, but you'll always have to achieve the freedom yourself. But what is freedom if it's acquired through an unrightful way, by means of violence? And if you're allowed to use violence to get freedom through violence, is somebody else allowed to use violence to get his in an unrightful way? That goes against the laws of the peace that's required for freedom to become real. That's preaching anarchy.

You can't take freedom; you and the people everywhere around you have to create the right atmosphere to make it.


"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."

Aren't peace and freedom in some way synonymous? Isn't freedom another word for the achievement of complete internal and external peace?
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Narrator on January 02, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.

Sure it does.  Killing crackers is what Allah wills.  Also, do not contradict me or you will lose your hands.
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 02, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.

Sure it does.  Killing crackers is what Allah wills.  Also, do not contradict me or you will lose your hands.
what about the white people that convert to islam?




Ignoring the pointless tampon comments, this sure is an interesting topic.

you know all the important people in history like DR. Martin Luther King Jr, and Malcolm X and others,
some fought with peace against violence and some said fuck it if u got guns we gona get guns like the black panthers

i think if muthafuckers come at you with shit then you have the right to fuck them up. IMO

Violence should only be allowed in self-defense. You have the right to protect yourself against a threat to your life and your rightful freedoms. No more, no less. That doesn't justify punching someone who accidentally stands on your toes, or shooting someone who purposely kicks you against the knee, and it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.


see that fool ghandi, i think he was a retard for starving himself and shit for peace and shit. didnt his ass get shot anyway?

I find it hard to judge the motives of another man I know little of. His actions probably didn't change a whole lot about the way people behave, but at the same time, you did mention his name straight away when you talk about peace or pacifism. Starving for peace won't really solve anything though.


some good quotes
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."

The possibility to achieve freedom can be granted by a rightful society, but you'll always have to achieve the freedom yourself. But what is freedom if it's acquired through an unrightful way, by means of violence? And if you're allowed to use violence to get freedom through violence, is somebody else allowed to use violence to get his in an unrightful way? That goes against the laws of the peace that's required for freedom to become real. That's preaching anarchy.

You can't take freedom; you and the people everywhere around you have to create the right atmosphere to make it.


"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."

Aren't peace and freedom in some way synonymous? Isn't freedom another word for the achievement of complete internal and external peace?
yes
thats why you cant separate them because you cant have one without the other
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Elevz on January 02, 2008, 12:19:13 PM
it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.

Sure it does.  Killing crackers is what Allah wills.  Also, do not contradict me or you will lose your hands.

If you want me to stop talking, you'd better chop off my head, Mr. Righteous!
Title: Re: your opinions on peace VS violence
Post by: Narrator on January 02, 2008, 05:05:49 PM
If you want me to stop talking, you'd better chop off my head, Mr. Righteous!

But that wouldn't be as much fun as seeing you suffer.  With your hands chopped off, you won't be able to service yourself, and since you get no pussy as-is (and since bitches don't fuck amputees), that's quite possibly the worst punishment you could receive.