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Title: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 06, 2008, 01:02:59 PM
read something like he was rating rappers and gave E-40 a ZERO? is this just a rumor or did he really give out ratings? I think they said he also gave Spice1 a ZERO :-\
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Sir Petey on January 06, 2008, 01:13:21 PM
welcome to 1995.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: DENS on January 06, 2008, 01:14:51 PM
Ok and if it's true? This rating means nothin'.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 06, 2008, 01:21:44 PM
welcome to 1995.

thanks for the intelligent response ::)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Sir Petey on January 06, 2008, 01:29:37 PM
my bad holmes...this shit has been spoken about very extensively.

personally Ive always wondered if the shit was legit.

did you see the biggie movie that came out recently that spoke on this interview and its repurcussions.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Okka on January 06, 2008, 01:31:38 PM
There was a topic about this not too long ago. E-40's homies supposedly pulled Biggie over and all that shit, but Biggie called 40 and he gave him a pass...
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 06, 2008, 01:44:04 PM
my bad holmes...this shit has been spoken about very extensively.

personally Ive always wondered if the shit was legit.

did you see the biggie movie that came out recently that spoke on this interview and its repurcussions.

props, its all good 8)


There was a topic about this not too long ago. E-40's homies supposedly pulled Biggie over and all that shit, but Biggie called 40 and he gave him a pass...

props so I guess it was true then did he rate any other rappers just wondering?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Elevz on January 06, 2008, 02:21:30 PM
They had a whole list of rappers Biggie rated. You should be able to relocate the thread through searching the outbound sections.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 06, 2008, 02:51:17 PM
They had a whole list of rappers Biggie rated. You should be able to relocate the thread through searching the outbound sections.

props found it 8)

Damn he gave Too Short a 10 and Snoop a 8 guess he was feeling them 8)

wasn't feeling Cube new shit :-\

no mention of Kurupt

some interesting shit
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Blood$ on January 06, 2008, 04:40:24 PM
I think I heard somewhere that Biggie said "Kurupt is the best MC in the West" but I could be wrong

but I never heard of him giving Spice 1 a 0... can anybody confirm that?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 06, 2008, 05:16:15 PM
Biggie Speaks On Other Rappers (Old Intervieew)
 
Redman: The new Redman!?! Seven. I can't dis him cuase I know he got skills. He get busy on the lyrics but i can't feel his new sh!t, his new
cosmic crazy shit. I'm used to the clean cut blowout fly nigga. When I met
the nigga he was a fly nigga, you know what I'm sayin', now he on some
different shit. I really don't like when a rapper come out and they blow
up the way they are and they come out again on some changed up shit. To
me, that's like getting some good coke from poppy and then getting some
money and then be like,fuck that! I'm getting some more 45ths, some brown
shit and then bag that up. Why would you change your plan? That's what he
did to me.

E-40: No rating! Zero! I don't fuck with duke at all. At all.

Too $hort: Ten. That's my dog right there. I love that nigga. That's my man. The calibre of shit he got. Cocktails shit, i ain't got to see that
shit yet. I know that shit is hot! I was with him in Atlanta and we were
just kickin it and shit. That's my dog. I love that man.

Spice 1: Zero. I don't like that guy at all.

Craig Mack: I don't really like him too much either dog. I can't give him
a zero though cause he got some hot shit but like five...four, since he
on some different shit, some shit I can't relate to. I'm from the hood, he
from the suburbs so it's completely different shit. I don't really like
the music too much. I like the beats but that (scats) it's not rhymes for
me, it's just some pretty kid shit.

Mc Eiht: I like Eiht's shit. I give Eiht like an eight. He got some hard
shit, some real shit.

DJ Quik: I like the shit on the soundtrack. That's shit is hot. I give
him a seven...six.

Snoop Doggy Dogg: Snoopy??? I like Snoop. I give him like an eight. I like his shit.

KRS-One: KRS-One?? Naahhh...I don't like KRS no more cause he just think he's too dope. He let his ego take over his shit and that's what brings
him down. When he was like that (shouts "Blow it to yorself"), when he was
like that, then he was a ten but now, 'I am Hip Hop'!!! Eat a dick nigga.
Eat a muthafuckin dick!

Guru: Premier??? Umm...who else I give a ten too? I like Keith. Keith's
shit is hot.

Outkast: I like them too...six...seven.

Big Mike: Six...Seven

Scarface: Seven...eight. He got some hard shit. Face got some hard shit.

R.A. The Rugged One: The white boy??!! The one that I did the jam with??? That's who you talkin about? Two...might be a three, I did the song, they paid me a lot of money, that's why I did it. The beat was knockin.

Dr.Dre & Ed Lover: Those are my boys. I just like them niggas, know what I'm sayin. You don't rate niggas. I just like them niggas. They just friends.

Cypress Hill: I used to like them. The first, shit, that first "How i can
just kill a man" joint, I was liking that but that new age smoke out shit...fuck it!

New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.

Da Brat: I like Da Brat. I like her sh!t. I give her a nice six. She ain't
the dopest female MC but I like her single. I like how she comin'.

The topic of females MC's arrives and Biggie Speaks. "The dopest female MC
that has a record deal that's out right now is Rage, but my Mc that's
coming out, Little Kim, is the dopest female MC that's coming out ever. Ever.
She gets busy like a nigga that's why I like her style. Hard shit! She
speaks on suckin dicks...,shooting niggas, real shit that real bitches do
that they are just scared to talk about, just how I came out, on some real
shit."

Naughty By Nature: I like all of em. I got a relationship with Treach. I
got a relationship with Vinnie and I got a relationship with K, but you know what I'm sayin, the music itself it seems that they just wanna make that one hit. Once they got that one hit everything else don't count. That's why I can't dig that. I want a nigga that's gonna be like, 'Yo, I heard an album that's like nine joints I like three, I like maybe the single, the remix. I don't want no album like that.

Coolio: I like that new joint, "Mama I'm In love with a Gangsta". I like
that joint. I just like them hard niggas, them niggas that just be leveled
out.

Ice Cube: The old one or the new one? Kickiyaya? It's not the same shit. It's like niggas is changing too much for me and I can't keep the
love. I respect the nigga because I know back in the day he used to do
his thing so I can't diss him but the new shit right now is...

Dr. Dre: Beats? Incredible!

Ant Banks: I like Banks. I like that whole shit though. Ant Banks shit,
the whole Dangerous crew shit."

Sir Mix-a-lot: Nothing! I love his coats. I would love to be in the game
like how that nigga get in the game. I wanna be just as large as those
fools but get busy, cut the bullsh!t. Nigga saying...I got millions but
God damn that nigga get on the mic it's just something terrible dog. I
just wanna get busy on the mic more than anything. The little nigga game
the niggas play with the girls, man! A nigga just throw some bitches in
they shit and they just sit there, like from the "Tootsie Roll" shit to
the "Whoot! There it is!" shit. It's the same shit. You get trapped up
with these hoes. That shit ain't got nothing to do with hip hop. Nothing!

K-Dee: "The greatest MC in the world"?? I like that track. Nigga don't
really be saying nothing to me, you know, like lyrically he don't be
saying nothing to me. What make it so bad is when they come out with some
shit that's like half ass and like you wonder like, "I wonder how the
video will be." And then they got a video with this nigga spinning this
bottle and I'm like OK, what's gonna happen when the bottle stops and the
bottle is spinning for like three fucking minutes and then it stops and
everybody laughs like ha, and he spins again!!! Who directed this? Cube,
it had to be. It's just that funny style shit that I can't fuck with. I
like flat on the table shit, like my shit. They try to stick me for my
shit I shot em. Period. There's no helicopter scenes with me talkin to
somebody like , 'Well, how's the record doing?' There's no shit on there
that you could be like why is that sh!t in there. That's how I like the
shit, just regular shit.

Eazy E: (before his untimely death) - I like Eazy E. Eazy E is a real ill
nigga. He's sharp as a tack ontop but rhymin even he knows. He took a
group from the hood and just put them on and two million. Bing! He know
how to do that shit. Same thing with Luke and all the rest of them niggas.
Man, I just think they take another turn. I can let you hear some Eazy E
shit on some old NWA shit and niggas would think Eazy was nice, you know
what I'm saying, so he know.

MC Breed: He ain't come out with nothing too wrong for me. I gotta hear some shit. I know once when I was in L.A. I saw Breed at Fattburger and that nigga just took me into the room and just got me smoked out. He had me listening to some ill beats and shit that he work on production too and I didn't know that. That's a plus for MC's. If you can make your own beats you got props because producing is better than being an artist.

Warren G: That's my man. nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying, cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, staight up!

Wu-Tang Clan/Method Man: Wu-Tang is hot! I like their shit. I love that shit. I like their shit because they have a real I don't give a shit
attitude. We in this game to blow the fuck up! We don't give a fuck what
happens. All of us is gonna do our thing and we just gonna do it. And
they just did it. You can hear punches, you hear so much shit in that
album you know damn these guys is not giving a fuck. At the beginning of
CREAM, when that shit start!! Voila! Oh my God, this is some rushed shit
but I dig it.

The Roots: The Roots album. The Roots album is hot! On the strength, they rock the whole album for a whole hour. I was definetly in dibelief. I like the single, I really did but other people were like, Single was hot but I wasn't paying attention to the album at all."

 
 
 
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Blood$ on January 06, 2008, 05:41:11 PM
damn... never seen that before, good read

propz
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Crockett on January 06, 2008, 05:44:48 PM
he did a show in LA and said hes got luv for eiht and cmw
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 06, 2008, 05:47:05 PM
I just did a search and copied and pasted this from a thread back in August wasn't a member then so didn't know about it interesting shit
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Blood$ on January 06, 2008, 05:51:37 PM
this is where I saw somthing about Biggie saying Kurupt is the West Coast' best MC

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zb8wr-Bq4Ls

anybody know where the Biggie quote came from?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 06, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
surprised nobody asked about 2pac lol
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on January 06, 2008, 09:59:47 PM
i always laugh how us fans on the net can rate rappers yet when someone else does it we get all mad hahahaha,fucc a rating box is the illest yell
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Dodgers#1 on January 06, 2008, 10:42:14 PM
Biggie Speaks On Other Rappers (Old Intervieew)
 
Redman: The new Redman!?! Seven. I can't dis him cuase I know he got skills. He get busy on the lyrics but i can't feel his new sh!t, his new
cosmic crazy shit. I'm used to the clean cut blowout fly nigga. When I met
the nigga he was a fly nigga, you know what I'm sayin', now he on some
different shit. I really don't like when a rapper come out and they blow
up the way they are and they come out again on some changed up shit. To
me, that's like getting some good coke from poppy and then getting some
money and then be like,fuck that! I'm getting some more 45ths, some brown
shit and then bag that up. Why would you change your plan? That's what he
did to me.

E-40: No rating! Zero! I don't fuck with duke at all. At all.

Too $hort: Ten. That's my dog right there. I love that nigga. That's my man. The calibre of shit he got. Cocktails shit, i ain't got to see that
shit yet. I know that shit is hot! I was with him in Atlanta and we were
just kickin it and shit. That's my dog. I love that man.

Spice 1: Zero. I don't like that guy at all.

Craig Mack: I don't really like him too much either dog. I can't give him
a zero though cause he got some hot shit but like five...four, since he
on some different shit, some shit I can't relate to. I'm from the hood, he
from the suburbs so it's completely different shit. I don't really like
the music too much. I like the beats but that (scats) it's not rhymes for
me, it's just some pretty kid shit.

Mc Eiht: I like Eiht's shit. I give Eiht like an eight. He got some hard
shit, some real shit.

DJ Quik: I like the shit on the soundtrack. That's shit is hot. I give
him a seven...six.

Snoop Doggy Dogg: Snoopy??? I like Snoop. I give him like an eight. I like his shit.

KRS-One: KRS-One?? Naahhh...I don't like KRS no more cause he just think he's too dope. He let his ego take over his shit and that's what brings
him down. When he was like that (shouts "Blow it to yorself"), when he was
like that, then he was a ten but now, 'I am Hip Hop'!!! Eat a dick nigga.
Eat a muthafuckin dick!

Guru: Premier??? Umm...who else I give a ten too? I like Keith. Keith's
shit is hot.

Outkast: I like them too...six...seven.

Big Mike: Six...Seven

Scarface: Seven...eight. He got some hard shit. Face got some hard shit.

R.A. The Rugged One: The white boy??!! The one that I did the jam with??? That's who you talkin about? Two...might be a three, I did the song, they paid me a lot of money, that's why I did it. The beat was knockin.

Dr.Dre & Ed Lover: Those are my boys. I just like them niggas, know what I'm sayin. You don't rate niggas. I just like them niggas. They just friends.

Cypress Hill: I used to like them. The first, shit, that first "How i can
just kill a man" joint, I was liking that but that new age smoke out shit...fuck it!

New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.

Da Brat: I like Da Brat. I like her sh!t. I give her a nice six. She ain't
the dopest female MC but I like her single. I like how she comin'.

The topic of females MC's arrives and Biggie Speaks. "The dopest female MC
that has a record deal that's out right now is Rage, but my Mc that's
coming out, Little Kim, is the dopest female MC that's coming out ever. Ever.
She gets busy like a nigga that's why I like her style. Hard shit! She
speaks on suckin dicks...,shooting niggas, real shit that real bitches do
that they are just scared to talk about, just how I came out, on some real
shit."

Naughty By Nature: I like all of em. I got a relationship with Treach. I
got a relationship with Vinnie and I got a relationship with K, but you know what I'm sayin, the music itself it seems that they just wanna make that one hit. Once they got that one hit everything else don't count. That's why I can't dig that. I want a nigga that's gonna be like, 'Yo, I heard an album that's like nine joints I like three, I like maybe the single, the remix. I don't want no album like that.

Coolio: I like that new joint, "Mama I'm In love with a Gangsta". I like
that joint. I just like them hard niggas, them niggas that just be leveled
out.

Ice Cube: The old one or the new one? Kickiyaya? It's not the same shit. It's like niggas is changing too much for me and I can't keep the
love. I respect the nigga because I know back in the day he used to do
his thing so I can't diss him but the new shit right now is...

Dr. Dre: Beats? Incredible!

Ant Banks: I like Banks. I like that whole shit though. Ant Banks shit,
the whole Dangerous crew shit."

Sir Mix-a-lot: Nothing! I love his coats. I would love to be in the game
like how that nigga get in the game. I wanna be just as large as those
fools but get busy, cut the bullsh!t. Nigga saying...I got millions but
God damn that nigga get on the mic it's just something terrible dog. I
just wanna get busy on the mic more than anything. The little nigga game
the niggas play with the girls, man! A nigga just throw some bitches in
they shit and they just sit there, like from the "Tootsie Roll" shit to
the "Whoot! There it is!" shit. It's the same shit. You get trapped up
with these hoes. That shit ain't got nothing to do with hip hop. Nothing!

K-Dee: "The greatest MC in the world"?? I like that track. Nigga don't
really be saying nothing to me, you know, like lyrically he don't be
saying nothing to me. What make it so bad is when they come out with some
shit that's like half ass and like you wonder like, "I wonder how the
video will be." And then they got a video with this nigga spinning this
bottle and I'm like OK, what's gonna happen when the bottle stops and the
bottle is spinning for like three fucking minutes and then it stops and
everybody laughs like ha, and he spins again!!! Who directed this? Cube,
it had to be. It's just that funny style shit that I can't fuck with. I
like flat on the table shit, like my shit. They try to stick me for my
shit I shot em. Period. There's no helicopter scenes with me talkin to
somebody like , 'Well, how's the record doing?' There's no shit on there
that you could be like why is that sh!t in there. That's how I like the
shit, just regular shit.

Eazy E: (before his untimely death) - I like Eazy E. Eazy E is a real ill
nigga. He's sharp as a tack ontop but rhymin even he knows. He took a
group from the hood and just put them on and two million. Bing! He know
how to do that shit. Same thing with Luke and all the rest of them niggas.
Man, I just think they take another turn. I can let you hear some Eazy E
shit on some old NWA shit and niggas would think Eazy was nice, you know
what I'm saying, so he know.

MC Breed: He ain't come out with nothing too wrong for me. I gotta hear some shit. I know once when I was in L.A. I saw Breed at Fattburger and that nigga just took me into the room and just got me smoked out. He had me listening to some ill beats and shit that he work on production too and I didn't know that. That's a plus for MC's. If you can make your own beats you got props because producing is better than being an artist.

Warren G: That's my man. nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying, cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, staight up!

Wu-Tang Clan/Method Man: Wu-Tang is hot! I like their shit. I love that shit. I like their shit because they have a real I don't give a shit
attitude. We in this game to blow the fuck up! We don't give a fuck what
happens. All of us is gonna do our thing and we just gonna do it. And
they just did it. You can hear punches, you hear so much shit in that
album you know damn these guys is not giving a fuck. At the beginning of
CREAM, when that shit start!! Voila! Oh my God, this is some rushed shit
but I dig it.

The Roots: The Roots album. The Roots album is hot! On the strength, they rock the whole album for a whole hour. I was definetly in dibelief. I like the single, I really did but other people were like, Single was hot but I wasn't paying attention to the album at all."

 
 
 


propz good read
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: D~Nice on January 06, 2008, 10:45:58 PM
There was another one of these lists floating around with more rappers on it but it came out that it was false though.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Crockett on January 06, 2008, 10:49:30 PM
damn he was giving it to warren g, ant banks, rated eiht over quick, but dident like spice wtf
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on January 06, 2008, 11:15:37 PM
Yall heard some shit went down when he went to sacramento and all of 40 waters homies surrounded his limo and he had to call fonzarelli to get his boys to back off
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: LooN3y on January 07, 2008, 03:57:18 AM
Biggie Speaks On Other Rappers (Old Intervieew)
 
Redman: The new Redman!?! Seven. I can't dis him cuase I know he got skills. He get busy on the lyrics but i can't feel his new sh!t, his new
cosmic crazy shit. I'm used to the clean cut blowout fly nigga. When I met
the nigga he was a fly nigga, you know what I'm sayin', now he on some
different shit. I really don't like when a rapper come out and they blow
up the way they are and they come out again on some changed up shit. To
me, that's like getting some good coke from poppy and then getting some
money and then be like,fuck that! I'm getting some more 45ths, some brown
shit and then bag that up. Why would you change your plan? That's what he
did to me.

E-40: No rating! Zero! I don't fuck with duke at all. At all.

Too $hort: Ten. That's my dog right there. I love that nigga. That's my man. The calibre of shit he got. Cocktails shit, i ain't got to see that
shit yet. I know that shit is hot! I was with him in Atlanta and we were
just kickin it and shit. That's my dog. I love that man.

Spice 1: Zero. I don't like that guy at all.

Craig Mack: I don't really like him too much either dog. I can't give him
a zero though cause he got some hot shit but like five...four, since he
on some different shit, some shit I can't relate to. I'm from the hood, he
from the suburbs so it's completely different shit. I don't really like
the music too much. I like the beats but that (scats) it's not rhymes for
me, it's just some pretty kid shit.

Mc Eiht: I like Eiht's shit. I give Eiht like an eight. He got some hard
shit, some real shit.

DJ Quik: I like the shit on the soundtrack. That's shit is hot. I give
him a seven...six.

Snoop Doggy Dogg: Snoopy??? I like Snoop. I give him like an eight. I like his shit.

KRS-One: KRS-One?? Naahhh...I don't like KRS no more cause he just think he's too dope. He let his ego take over his shit and that's what brings
him down. When he was like that (shouts "Blow it to yorself"), when he was
like that, then he was a ten but now, 'I am Hip Hop'!!! Eat a dick nigga.
Eat a muthafuckin dick!

Guru: Premier??? Umm...who else I give a ten too? I like Keith. Keith's
shit is hot.

Outkast: I like them too...six...seven.

Big Mike: Six...Seven

Scarface: Seven...eight. He got some hard shit. Face got some hard shit.

R.A. The Rugged One: The white boy??!! The one that I did the jam with??? That's who you talkin about? Two...might be a three, I did the song, they paid me a lot of money, that's why I did it. The beat was knockin.

Dr.Dre & Ed Lover: Those are my boys. I just like them niggas, know what I'm sayin. You don't rate niggas. I just like them niggas. They just friends.

Cypress Hill: I used to like them. The first, shit, that first "How i can
just kill a man" joint, I was liking that but that new age smoke out shit...fuck it!

New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.

Da Brat: I like Da Brat. I like her sh!t. I give her a nice six. She ain't
the dopest female MC but I like her single. I like how she comin'.

The topic of females MC's arrives and Biggie Speaks. "The dopest female MC
that has a record deal that's out right now is Rage, but my Mc that's
coming out, Little Kim, is the dopest female MC that's coming out ever. Ever.
She gets busy like a nigga that's why I like her style. Hard shit! She
speaks on suckin dicks...,shooting niggas, real shit that real bitches do
that they are just scared to talk about, just how I came out, on some real
shit."

Naughty By Nature: I like all of em. I got a relationship with Treach. I
got a relationship with Vinnie and I got a relationship with K, but you know what I'm sayin, the music itself it seems that they just wanna make that one hit. Once they got that one hit everything else don't count. That's why I can't dig that. I want a nigga that's gonna be like, 'Yo, I heard an album that's like nine joints I like three, I like maybe the single, the remix. I don't want no album like that.

Coolio: I like that new joint, "Mama I'm In love with a Gangsta". I like
that joint. I just like them hard niggas, them niggas that just be leveled
out.

Ice Cube: The old one or the new one? Kickiyaya? It's not the same shit. It's like niggas is changing too much for me and I can't keep the
love. I respect the nigga because I know back in the day he used to do
his thing so I can't diss him but the new shit right now is...

Dr. Dre: Beats? Incredible!

Ant Banks: I like Banks. I like that whole shit though. Ant Banks shit,
the whole Dangerous crew shit."

Sir Mix-a-lot: Nothing! I love his coats. I would love to be in the game
like how that nigga get in the game. I wanna be just as large as those
fools but get busy, cut the bullsh!t. Nigga saying...I got millions but
God damn that nigga get on the mic it's just something terrible dog. I
just wanna get busy on the mic more than anything. The little nigga game
the niggas play with the girls, man! A nigga just throw some bitches in
they shit and they just sit there, like from the "Tootsie Roll" shit to
the "Whoot! There it is!" shit. It's the same shit. You get trapped up
with these hoes. That shit ain't got nothing to do with hip hop. Nothing!

K-Dee: "The greatest MC in the world"?? I like that track. Nigga don't
really be saying nothing to me, you know, like lyrically he don't be
saying nothing to me. What make it so bad is when they come out with some
shit that's like half ass and like you wonder like, "I wonder how the
video will be." And then they got a video with this nigga spinning this
bottle and I'm like OK, what's gonna happen when the bottle stops and the
bottle is spinning for like three fucking minutes and then it stops and
everybody laughs like ha, and he spins again!!! Who directed this? Cube,
it had to be. It's just that funny style shit that I can't fuck with. I
like flat on the table shit, like my shit. They try to stick me for my
shit I shot em. Period. There's no helicopter scenes with me talkin to
somebody like , 'Well, how's the record doing?' There's no shit on there
that you could be like why is that sh!t in there. That's how I like the
shit, just regular shit.

Eazy E: (before his untimely death) - I like Eazy E. Eazy E is a real ill
nigga. He's sharp as a tack ontop but rhymin even he knows. He took a
group from the hood and just put them on and two million. Bing! He know
how to do that shit. Same thing with Luke and all the rest of them niggas.
Man, I just think they take another turn. I can let you hear some Eazy E
shit on some old NWA shit and niggas would think Eazy was nice, you know
what I'm saying, so he know.

MC Breed: He ain't come out with nothing too wrong for me. I gotta hear some shit. I know once when I was in L.A. I saw Breed at Fattburger and that nigga just took me into the room and just got me smoked out. He had me listening to some ill beats and shit that he work on production too and I didn't know that. That's a plus for MC's. If you can make your own beats you got props because producing is better than being an artist.

Warren G: That's my man. nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying, cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, staight up!

Wu-Tang Clan/Method Man: Wu-Tang is hot! I like their shit. I love that shit. I like their shit because they have a real I don't give a shit
attitude. We in this game to blow the fuck up! We don't give a fuck what
happens. All of us is gonna do our thing and we just gonna do it. And
they just did it. You can hear punches, you hear so much shit in that
album you know damn these guys is not giving a fuck. At the beginning of
CREAM, when that shit start!! Voila! Oh my God, this is some rushed shit
but I dig it.

The Roots: The Roots album. The Roots album is hot! On the strength, they rock the whole album for a whole hour. I was definetly in dibelief. I like the single, I really did but other people were like, Single was hot but I wasn't paying attention to the album at all."

 
 
 


propz good read

can any1 hook it up wit the coolio track?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Paul on January 07, 2008, 05:44:04 AM
biggie has a disturbing likeness for shit

Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: es-jay on January 07, 2008, 07:46:27 AM
Yall heard some shit went down when he went to sacramento and all of 40 waters homies surrounded his limo and he had to call fonzarelli to get his boys to back off

according to that Biggie movie, 40 arranged the concert, BIG and them performed for about 6 people who booed them and then were surrounded afterwards. 40 called BIG and asked him what he was talking about, etc etc, they get let go. And they going, going, back, back to NY, NY.

something along those lines anyway.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Okka on January 07, 2008, 08:01:31 AM
Warren G: That's my man. nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying, cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, straight up!

 :D

Were G Dub and Biggie friends? Cuz i've see n pictures of them together and all that. I think allmost everyone from DPG was cool with Bad Boy, i've seen Daz with Biggie (i think it even was on the "Beef" DVD) and Snoop said he ain't got nuthin against them...
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on January 07, 2008, 08:32:59 AM
I coulda sworn that Biggie did say something about Kurupt being the best freestyler on the West Coast but probably not in this interview
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: 98 BJB on January 07, 2008, 09:18:45 AM
Yall heard some shit went down when he went to sacramento and all of 40 waters homies surrounded his limo and he had to call fonzarelli to get his boys to back off

Thats a way to shoe east coast niggas whats beef. They talk it we walk it.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: DENS on January 07, 2008, 01:14:21 PM
Biggie was talkin' too much like 2pac lol

They had many ennemys for that.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: SP0RTY on January 07, 2008, 11:29:28 PM
good read funny he said he wouldnt goto warren g's hood
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Twisted Smoke on January 08, 2008, 01:59:47 PM
As Usual + 1 to HighEyeCue, Sporty and Gotti Valentino  8)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: madkilla on January 08, 2008, 05:04:14 PM
my guess would be the only reason biggie showed hate towards 40 or spice is because they were pac's homies.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 08, 2008, 06:37:55 PM
FUCK BIGGIE! tupac is that nigga mayne 8).
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: ~Lucien~ on January 08, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
Warren G: That's my man. nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying, cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, staight up!

 ;D
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 08, 2008, 06:52:11 PM
damn... never seen that before, good read

propz
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 08, 2008, 07:28:12 PM
Everyone know Biggie liked King Tee..
Check the styles, BIG borrowed like a mutha from him.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Elevz on January 09, 2008, 04:53:24 AM
Everyone know Biggie liked King Tee..
Check the styles, BIG borrowed like a mutha from him.

Shit, I never noticed that, but now that you've mentioned it...!
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 09, 2008, 05:39:52 AM
to all the "fuck biggie"-people grow tha fuck up!
lol @ him for not going to warrenīs hood.
damn he gave spice a 0,wtf.
Quote
New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.
who da fuck is/are new kingdom?
i think they tested him if he really knows the rappers hes talking about and sneaked a fake-name to test him :D
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Elevz on January 09, 2008, 05:53:07 AM
Quote
New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.
who da fuck is/are new kingdom?
i think they tested him if he really knows the rappers hes talking about and sneaked a fake-name to test him :D

"New Kingdom was a mid-90's Hip-Hop duo made up of Nosaj and Sebastian. They are often descirbed as "alternative rap" based mostly on their live shows which were backed by a band and their hazy mosiac second album. However, their first album was sample based Hip-Hop much like their standard contemporaries, pulling mostly from Funk and some Funk Jazz."
Read more (http://www.last.fm/music/New+Kingdom)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 09, 2008, 07:23:07 AM
and why tha fuck was BIG asked about them when nobody knows who the fuck they are?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on January 09, 2008, 08:59:52 AM
I've always wondered if this interview was 100% correct and exactly what year it was done?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Elevz on January 09, 2008, 09:09:43 AM
and why tha fuck was BIG asked about them when nobody knows who the fuck they are?

Now that's a good question ;D
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 09, 2008, 10:21:14 AM
^^ i know it is.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Doxx on January 09, 2008, 01:24:03 PM
I've always wondered if this interview was 100% correct and exactly what year it was done?

The interview is from 1995 and came from Peace magazine based in Canada.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 10, 2008, 11:23:48 PM
maybe pac has some interviews too that we dont know cause it was down not in USA?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: westside159 on January 11, 2008, 12:13:39 AM
BIGG'S & MC Eiht did shows and tours together bacc in the 90's and Eiht always got luv from the Eastcoast more than alot of other westcoast MC'S DONT KNOW WHY BUT THATS WHAT IT IS . 8)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: REGIME MOB 510 on January 11, 2008, 12:20:33 AM
Biggie solidified himself as being a hater by givin 40 and spice1 a zero, thats straight hater tactics.  lets be real, spice1's tracks are slappers, and 40 is the KING OF SLAP!
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: westside159 on January 11, 2008, 12:28:57 AM
Thats one of the best MC'S ever opinion . he probally just didnt get along with them becuz of the Pac shit !!
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 11, 2008, 10:43:57 AM
Biggie solidified himself as being a hater by givin 40 and spice1 a zero, thats straight hater tactics.  lets be real, spice1's tracks are slappers, and 40 is the KING OF SLAP!

why is that that everytime when some1 says (rapper or whoever) about a rapper that he dont like him hes straight labeled as a hater?
what you mean when ya say "slappers"?

Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Shango on March 02, 2008, 10:37:20 AM
can't even spell Kurupt and Mack 10..... ::)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Elevz on March 02, 2008, 10:39:07 AM
Wow, that list is sort of ridiculous, really. Lauryn Hill is the greatest of them all, Mystikal gets an A and Big Pun is only slightly better than Master P, Jay-Z gets a  10 for his catalogue? LMAO.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: JAZ on March 02, 2008, 10:44:35 AM
can't even spell Kurupt and Mack 10..... ::)
actually he CAN spell Corrupt
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Shango on March 02, 2008, 10:56:09 AM
what the fuck is a " Corrupt" ??
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Elevz on March 02, 2008, 10:57:28 AM
can't even spell Kurupt and Mack 10..... ::)
actually he CAN spell Corrupt

We'll forgive him for leaving out the dash in MAC-10 then.

Rappers should spell their own names right first!
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 02, 2008, 04:03:38 PM
props Chad 8)

Too Short getting less tham Puffy :-\

Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: kuruptDPG on March 02, 2008, 04:38:00 PM
can't even spell Kurupt and Mack 10..... ::)

lol. i am shockd wit biggie though, u gota luv 40 & spice
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on March 03, 2008, 07:41:05 AM
Hereīs Kool Moe Dee rating of rappers (from the Ego Trippin book)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2302285140_a30ca3d579_b.jpg)
props Chad 8)

ohhh yeah,I meant to post it when you made this thread back in January....
but never too late right  ;).... Iīm bringing new life to this thread.  ;)

Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read, also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that, I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him, I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on March 03, 2008, 07:55:05 AM
Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,
also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,
I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,
I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember


Naaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?
Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself....

yeah it came out about '02 or '03, I'll try to find a link for it somewhere online if you want and post it here
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on March 03, 2008, 07:59:13 AM
here it is

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=VRe2WdHc9lsC&dq=kool+moe+dee+50+greatest+rappers&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=xqVYPGqV05&sig=HuydUU5RQ_OSfxlyBiKHdH5EbTA#PPP1,M1
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 08:03:50 AM
Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,
also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,
I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,
I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember


Naaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?
Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself....


That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good, Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 08:43:50 AM
Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,
also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,
I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,
I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember


Naaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?
Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself....


That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good,
Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49

Thanx for the info,can you post the whole list? and maybe some scans?

1. Melle Mel
2. Rakim
3. Krs-One
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. Kool Mo Dee
6. Grandmaster Caz
7. LL Cool J
8. Chuck D
9. Notorious BIG
10. Lauryn Hill
11. Nas
12. Queen Latifah
13. Tupac
14. Kool G Rap
15. Jay-Z
16. Treach
17. Method Man
18. Ice Cube
19. MC Lyte
20. Redman
21. Ras Kass
22. GZA
23. Will Smith
24. Busta Rhymes
25. Heavy D
26. Xzibit
27. Common
28. Pharoahe Monch
29. Black Thought
30. Scarface
31. Kurtis Blow
32. Run
33. Snoop Dogg
34. Guru
35. Ice-T
36. Doug E Fresh
37. Keith Murray
38. Mystikal
39. Kurupt
40. Slick Rick
41. Big Pun
42. Lil Kim
43. MC Shan
44. Craig Mack
45. Jeru The Damaja
46. Fat Joe
47. Spoonie Gee
48. Foxy Brown
49. Mack 10
50. Just-Ice

At the time the book came out, Eminem had only just blown, so Kool Mo Dee was saying it was too early to tell with him and some other dudes that had just come out. I thought the list was pretty good, some odd choices (Slick Rick way down at the 40???), but the stuff written about each is interesting, worth getting the book IMO
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 10:25:37 AM
Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,
also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,
I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,
I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember


Naaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?
Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself....


That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good,
Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49

Thanx for the info,can you post the whole list? and maybe some scans?

1. Melle Mel
2. Rakim
3. Krs-One
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. Kool Mo Dee
6. Grandmaster Caz
7. LL Cool J
8. Chuck D
9. Notorious BIG
10. Lauryn Hill
11. Nas
12. Queen Latifah
13. Tupac
14. Kool G Rap
15. Jay-Z
16. Treach
17. Method Man
18. Ice Cube
19. MC Lyte
20. Redman
21. Ras Kass
22. GZA
23. Will Smith
24. Busta Rhymes
25. Heavy D
26. Xzibit
27. Common
28. Pharoahe Monch
29. Black Thought
30. Scarface
31. Kurtis Blow
32. Run
33. Snoop Dogg
34. Guru
35. Ice-T
36. Doug E Fresh
37. Keith Murray
38. Mystikal
39. Kurupt
40. Slick Rick
41. Big Pun
42. Lil Kim
43. MC Shan
44. Craig Mack
45. Jeru The Damaja
46. Fat Joe
47. Spoonie Gee
48. Foxy Brown
49. Mack 10
50. Just-Ice

At the time the book came out, Eminem had only just blown, so Kool Mo Dee was saying it was too early to tell with him and some other dudes that had just come out. I thought the list was pretty good, some odd choices (Slick Rick way down at the 40???), but the stuff written about each is interesting, worth getting the book IMO

props but wack list dude ranks himself 5th :-\

Kurupt at 39? dude is top 10 MC at least top 20

LOL at Foxy Brown being on that list
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 12:11:53 PM


props but wack list dude ranks himself 5th :-\

Kurupt at 39? dude is top 10 MC at least top 20

LOL at Foxy Brown being on that list


Yeah, lol at ranking himself 5th, real objective opinion there!

Kurupt wouldn't be top 10 though, come on, he's dope, but there's easily 10 MCs who HAVE to come before simply because they invented half the shit he and everyone else is doing and did it at a higher level, like Rakim, KRS, BDK, G Rap, Slick Rick, etc

Kurupt kind of fell off too, but when he was dope I think he was pretty high up, like in the league of Pharoahe Monch, Chino XL, Ras Kass, etc
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 12:24:22 PM


props but wack list dude ranks himself 5th :-\

Kurupt at 39? dude is top 10 MC at least top 20

LOL at Foxy Brown being on that list


Yeah, lol at ranking himself 5th, real objective opinion there!

Kurupt wouldn't be top 10 though, come on, he's dope, but there's easily 10 MCs who HAVE to come before simply because they invented half the shit he and everyone else is doing and did it at a higher level, like Rakim, KRS, BDK, G Rap, Slick Rick, etc

Kurupt kind of fell off too, but when he was dope I think he was pretty high up, like in the league of Pharoahe Monch, Chino XL, Ras Kass, etc

I respect dudes opinion cause he is an OG and been in the game for a long time

I admit I havent heard all these 50 rappers since I started listening to rap in 1999

but I know Mystikal is not better than Kurupt no way I cannot stand that guy

and Big Pun was a beast don't understand his low ranking either :-\
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 12:53:18 PM

I respect dudes opinion cause he is an OG and been in the game for a long time

I admit I havent heard all these 50 rappers since I started listening to rap in 1999

but I know Mystikal is not better than Kurupt no way I cannot stand that guy

and Big Pun was a beast don't understand his low ranking either :-\

Yeah, I agree on those - he put a few crazy ones in there... and Lady of Rage would kill all those female MCs!
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 01:59:23 PM
Is the book and list meant to be objective?


Yeah, he has a rating system to break the whole thing down 'scientifically', though obviously stuff like this is never really objective
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on March 04, 2008, 09:19:35 AM
I would say Kurupt was definitely a top 10 MC in the mid 90's, but you don't rate someone in a specific time period, I guess he was rating him up to 2002 or something and by then he had fallen off a bit, but from what I remember reading in the book he does say that he is not a fan of gangsta rap but he is a fan of lyrical MCs and that is why he put him in there and specifically mentions the track "Fresh" from Kuruption as an example of his lyrcism
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: love33 on March 04, 2008, 12:40:56 PM
Kurupt says on a track he did with Bigg Gipp at the beginning of the song about Biggie calling him the best rapper in the Westcoast.  I think B.I.G. is right, Too Short and Kurupt are the best rappers in that era along with Tupac, Snoop, and WSC.

He wasn't a fan of style changing according to what he said, I wonder what he would think of rap today with everyone changing their style in order to keep up.  We never would have ever imagined Snoop doing a record like "Sexual Seduction" when he was on Death Row Records.  Too Short has done a bunch of southern collaborations with Lil Jon.

The whole situation is that at the end of the day you have to eat, and the media won't play the traditional 90's g-funk hardcore westcoast bangers on television anymore.  The videos are even way watered down.  So the artists are forced to adjust if they want to eat.  So instead of hearing a "Bitches Ain't Shit" Snoop Dogg we hear "Sexual Seduction" with him on there singing.

Rap is watered down now because of the media, not the artists.  The artists gotta eat.  Wonder what kind of records Biggie would be making in this era of artists being handcuffed.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: R1ZE on March 04, 2008, 02:01:00 PM
good topic... most rappers i think would be scared or just too respectful to put out their raw opinions of other rappers out there like this

that list is wack though, lol @ mystikal's rating. did he evne have a category for flow?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 04, 2008, 03:51:23 PM
unless I counted wrong there were only 7 west coast MCs on that list

Pac
Cube
Ras Kass
Xzibit
Snoop
Icet
Kurupt

have not heard anything from ICEt was he that good to be better than Kurupt :-\

Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 04, 2008, 04:48:12 PM
unless I counted wrong there were only 7 west coast MCs on that list

Pac
Cube
Ras Kass
Xzibit
Snoop
Icet
Kurupt

have not heard anything from ICEt was he that good to be better than Kurupt :-\

Ice-T is a "storyteller" type of rapper while Kurupt is "MC",wordplay and delivery is his strengh.
Where's WC,Ren,RBX,D.O.C etc.?

props Chad I know he is a OG but never heard his music

I guess this guy don't like too much west coast rap not to have all those other guys you mentioned on his list :-\
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 04, 2008, 05:03:59 PM
Ice-T got some classics,no doubt about that...
Pure technical I would rate Kurupt WAY higher on the list. But he probably have his reasons,so it would cool if we could get some scans of the pages about the West Coast rappers.


yeah some scans would be dope to see his reasons

hopefully UCC put some up he gave some good info
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: UCC on March 05, 2008, 05:16:09 AM
Ice-T got some classics,no doubt about that...
Pure technical I would rate Kurupt WAY higher on the list. But he probably have his reasons,so it would cool if we could get some scans of the pages about the West Coast rappers.


yeah some scans would be dope to see his reasons

hopefully UCC put some up he gave some good info

Sorry guys, don't gots no scanner  :(

With Kurupt he basically says that he's generally not a fan of gangsta rap, and the lack of content, but Kurupt is really lyrical with it. He also says Kurupt has a great vocabulary and he has great battle skills

I think West Coast MCs come off badly sometimes because if they have a more melodic flow, and simpler rhymes (which often sounds just as dope I think, as it's just a different style), then it won't seem as complex as some of the East Coast cats out there. Also the content of west coast often glorifies guns, bitches, money, etc, and East Coast have a lot of people who either talk about different things or talk about that stuff but not glorifying it (though that's more just stereotypical view of west coast rappers, seeing as west coast also has its pharcydes, dilated peoples, J5, etc). East coast also have all the pioneers of pretty much every style - rakim, g rap, big daddy kane, slick rick, krs one, etc etc

The book is worth buying IMO, you can probably get it second hand over amazon
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: kuruptDPG on March 05, 2008, 05:27:53 AM
sory if this is obv but that lsit wit 50 raprs on it, they way kurupt is spelt = corrupt lol, is that biggies list?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Shango on March 05, 2008, 07:03:22 AM
its kool moe dee's list
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Chad Vader on March 05, 2008, 07:07:17 AM
Ice-T got some classics,no doubt about that...
Pure technical I would rate Kurupt WAY higher on the list. But he probably have his reasons,so it would cool if we could get some scans of the pages about the West Coast rappers.

yeah some scans would be dope to see his reasons
hopefully UCC put some up he gave some good info


Sorry guys, don't gots no scanner  :(

Donīt you have a digital camera? or a cell phone with camera,thatīs what I use  ;)


With Kurupt he basically says that he's generally not a fan of gangsta rap, and the lack of content, but Kurupt is really lyrical with it. He also says Kurupt has a great vocabulary and he has great battle skills

Sure I agree with that,but I value delivery and wordplay just as much as content,if not more.
But thatīs a personal preference you know,like I take The D.O.C and Ren over Cube...
So as I said before pure technical I would rate Kurupt HIGHER.

I think West Coast MCs come off badly sometimes because if they have a more melodic flow,
and simpler rhymes (which often sounds just as dope I think, as it's just a different style),
then it won't seem as complex as some of the East Coast cats out there.
Also the content of west coast often glorifies guns, bitches, money, etc, and East Coast have a lot of people who either talk about different things or talk about that stuff but not glorifying it (though that's more just stereotypical view of west coast rappers, seeing as west coast also has its pharcydes, dilated peoples, J5, etc).
East coast also have all the pioneers of pretty much every style - rakim, g rap, big daddy kane, slick rick, krs one, etc etc

Like Mac Dre says;
It not what you say,itīs how you say it.....


The book is worth buying IMO, you can probably get it second hand over amazon


Thanx I think Iīll pick this up
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: HEC on March 05, 2008, 08:58:17 AM
I think I might pick this up as well, looks interesting
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 05, 2008, 03:05:53 PM
Ice-T got some classics,no doubt about that...
Pure technical I would rate Kurupt WAY higher on the list. But he probably have his reasons,so it would cool if we could get some scans of the pages about the West Coast rappers.


yeah some scans would be dope to see his reasons

hopefully UCC put some up he gave some good info

Sorry guys, don't gots no scanner  :(

With Kurupt he basically says that he's generally not a fan of gangsta rap, and the lack of content, but Kurupt is really lyrical with it. He also says Kurupt has a great vocabulary and he has great battle skills

I think West Coast MCs come off badly sometimes because if they have a more melodic flow, and simpler rhymes (which often sounds just as dope I think, as it's just a different style), then it won't seem as complex as some of the East Coast cats out there. Also the content of west coast often glorifies guns, bitches, money, etc, and East Coast have a lot of people who either talk about different things or talk about that stuff but not glorifying it (though that's more just stereotypical view of west coast rappers, seeing as west coast also has its pharcydes, dilated peoples, J5, etc). East coast also have all the pioneers of pretty much every style - rakim, g rap, big daddy kane, slick rick, krs one, etc etc

The book is worth buying IMO, you can probably get it second hand over amazon

props man Kurupt is my favorite rapper good to hear he said good things about him

would like to get the book but I'm either studying or on here so don't have much time to read it :-\
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Flip on October 29, 2008, 04:16:32 PM
Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,
also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,
I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,
I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember


Naaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?
Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself....


That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good,
Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49

Thanx for the info,can you post the whole list? and maybe some scans?

1. Melle Mel
2. Rakim
3. Krs-One
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. Kool Mo Dee
6. Grandmaster Caz
7. LL Cool J
8. Chuck D
9. Notorious BIG
10. Lauryn Hill
11. Nas
12. Queen Latifah
13. Tupac
14. Kool G Rap
15. Jay-Z
16. Treach
17. Method Man
18. Ice Cube
19. MC Lyte
20. Redman
21. Ras Kass
22. GZA
23. Will Smith
24. Busta Rhymes
25. Heavy D
26. Xzibit
27. Common
28. Pharoahe Monch
29. Black Thought
30. Scarface
31. Kurtis Blow
32. Run
33. Snoop Dogg
34. Guru
35. Ice-T
36. Doug E Fresh
37. Keith Murray
38. Mystikal
39. Kurupt
40. Slick Rick
41. Big Pun
42. Lil Kim
43. MC Shan
44. Craig Mack
45. Jeru The Damaja
46. Fat Joe
47. Spoonie Gee
48. Foxy Brown
49. Mack 10
50. Just-Ice

At the time the book came out, Eminem had only just blown, so Kool Mo Dee was saying it was too early to tell with him and some other dudes that had just come out. I thought the list was pretty good, some odd choices (Slick Rick way down at the 40???), but the stuff written about each is interesting, worth getting the book IMO

props but wack list dude ranks himself 5th :-\

Kurupt at 39? dude is top 10 MC at least top 20

LOL at Foxy Brown being on that list


Bit of an East coast thing going down there lol
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: ktothac on October 29, 2008, 04:42:18 PM
any proof of BIG's list bein legit? how you gonna say you love dangerous crew but dont like spice at all? and kool mo dee's list is bogus
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: simon on October 29, 2008, 05:58:47 PM
FUCK BIGGIE! tupac is that nigga mayne 8).
8)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: westside159 on November 02, 2008, 04:34:53 AM
MACC 10 belling through the hood at #49 ... W/S 8)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Mr_Quiksta on November 02, 2008, 08:26:25 AM
Yall heard some shit went down when he went to sacramento and all of 40 waters homies surrounded his limo and he had to call fonzarelli to get his boys to back off

Whos that chick in ur sig dawg?!?!?!

And is this interview real??? Cud we get some auidio?

Good read tho...
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Birdie on November 02, 2008, 08:37:50 AM
R.A. The Rugged One: The white boy??!! The one that I did the jam with??? That's who you talkin about? Two...might be a three, I did the song, they paid me a lot of money, that's why I did it. The beat was knockin.

Altho I love Biggie...

... honestly, this line sucks as hell. Do songs for some money (without checkin' some skillz of the other side) is bitchin'.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Black Excellence on November 02, 2008, 09:15:08 AM
Biggie Speaks On Other Rappers (Old Intervieew)
 
Redman: The new Redman!?! Seven. I can't dis him cuase I know he got skills. He get busy on the lyrics but i can't feel his new sh!t, his new
cosmic crazy shit. I'm used to the clean cut blowout fly nigga. When I met
the nigga he was a fly nigga, you know what I'm sayin', now he on some
different shit. I really don't like when a rapper come out and they blow
up the way they are and they come out again on some changed up shit. To
me, that's like getting some good coke from poppy and then getting some
money and then be like,fuck that! I'm getting some more 45ths, some brown
shit and then bag that up. Why would you change your plan? That's what he
did to me.

E-40: No rating! Zero! I don't fuck with duke at all. At all.

Too $hort: Ten. That's my dog right there. I love that nigga. That's my man. The calibre of shit he got. Cocktails shit, i ain't got to see that
shit yet. I know that shit is hot! I was with him in Atlanta and we were
just kickin it and shit. That's my dog. I love that man.

Spice 1: Zero. I don't like that guy at all.

Craig Mack: I don't really like him too much either dog. I can't give him
a zero though cause he got some hot shit but like five...four, since he
on some different shit, some shit I can't relate to. I'm from the hood, he
from the suburbs so it's completely different shit. I don't really like
the music too much. I like the beats but that (scats) it's not rhymes for
me, it's just some pretty kid shit.

Mc Eiht: I like Eiht's shit. I give Eiht like an eight. He got some hard
shit, some real shit.

DJ Quik: I like the shit on the soundtrack. That's shit is hot. I give
him a seven...six.

Snoop Doggy Dogg: Snoopy??? I like Snoop. I give him like an eight. I like his shit.

KRS-One: KRS-One?? Naahhh...I don't like KRS no more cause he just think he's too dope. He let his ego take over his shit and that's what brings
him down. When he was like that (shouts "Blow it to yorself"), when he was
like that, then he was a ten but now, 'I am Hip Hop'!!! Eat a dick nigga.
Eat a muthafuckin dick!

Guru: Premier??? Umm...who else I give a ten too? I like Keith. Keith's
shit is hot.

Outkast: I like them too...six...seven.

Big Mike: Six...Seven

Scarface: Seven...eight. He got some hard shit. Face got some hard shit.

R.A. The Rugged One: The white boy??!! The one that I did the jam with??? That's who you talkin about? Two...might be a three, I did the song, they paid me a lot of money, that's why I did it. The beat was knockin.

Dr.Dre & Ed Lover: Those are my boys. I just like them niggas, know what I'm sayin. You don't rate niggas. I just like them niggas. They just friends.

Cypress Hill: I used to like them. The first, shit, that first "How i can
just kill a man" joint, I was liking that but that new age smoke out shit...fuck it!

New Kingdom: Who? Never heard of them.

Da Brat: I like Da Brat. I like her sh!t. I give her a nice six. She ain't
the dopest female MC but I like her single. I like how she comin'.

The topic of females MC's arrives and Biggie Speaks. "The dopest female MC
that has a record deal that's out right now is Rage, but my Mc that's
coming out, Little Kim, is the dopest female MC that's coming out ever. Ever.
She gets busy like a nigga that's why I like her style. Hard shit! She
speaks on suckin dicks...,shooting niggas, real shit that real bitches do
that they are just scared to talk about, just how I came out, on some real
shit."

Naughty By Nature: I like all of em. I got a relationship with Treach. I
got a relationship with Vinnie and I got a relationship with K, but you know what I'm sayin, the music itself it seems that they just wanna make that one hit. Once they got that one hit everything else don't count. That's why I can't dig that. I want a nigga that's gonna be like, 'Yo, I heard an album that's like nine joints I like three, I like maybe the single, the remix. I don't want no album like that.

Coolio: I like that new joint, "Mama I'm In love with a Gangsta". I like
that joint. I just like them hard niggas, them niggas that just be leveled
out.

Ice Cube: The old one or the new one? Kickiyaya? It's not the same shit. It's like niggas is changing too much for me and I can't keep the
love. I respect the nigga because I know back in the day he used to do
his thing so I can't diss him but the new shit right now is...

Dr. Dre: Beats? Incredible!

Ant Banks: I like Banks. I like that whole shit though. Ant Banks shit,
the whole Dangerous crew shit."

Sir Mix-a-lot: Nothing! I love his coats. I would love to be in the game
like how that nigga get in the game. I wanna be just as large as those
fools but get busy, cut the bullsh!t. Nigga saying...I got millions but
God damn that nigga get on the mic it's just something terrible dog. I
just wanna get busy on the mic more than anything. The little nigga game
the niggas play with the girls, man! A nigga just throw some bitches in
they shit and they just sit there, like from the "Tootsie Roll" shit to
the "Whoot! There it is!" shit. It's the same shit. You get trapped up
with these hoes. That shit ain't got nothing to do with hip hop. Nothing!

K-Dee: "The greatest MC in the world"?? I like that track. Nigga don't
really be saying nothing to me, you know, like lyrically he don't be
saying nothing to me. What make it so bad is when they come out with some
shit that's like half ass and like you wonder like, "I wonder how the
video will be." And then they got a video with this nigga spinning this
bottle and I'm like OK, what's gonna happen when the bottle stops and the
bottle is spinning for like three fucking minutes and then it stops and
everybody laughs like ha, and he spins again!!! Who directed this? Cube,
it had to be. It's just that funny style shit that I can't fuck with. I
like flat on the table shit, like my shit. They try to stick me for my
shit I shot em. Period. There's no helicopter scenes with me talkin to
somebody like , 'Well, how's the record doing?' There's no shit on there
that you could be like why is that sh!t in there. That's how I like the
shit, just regular shit.

Eazy E: (before his untimely death) - I like Eazy E. Eazy E is a real ill
nigga. He's sharp as a tack ontop but rhymin even he knows. He took a
group from the hood and just put them on and two million. Bing! He know
how to do that shit. Same thing with Luke and all the rest of them niggas.
Man, I just think they take another turn. I can let you hear some Eazy E
shit on some old NWA shit and niggas would think Eazy was nice, you know
what I'm saying, so he know.

MC Breed: He ain't come out with nothing too wrong for me. I gotta hear some shit. I know once when I was in L.A. I saw Breed at Fattburger and that nigga just took me into the room and just got me smoked out. He had me listening to some ill beats and shit that he work on production too and I didn't know that. That's a plus for MC's. If you can make your own beats you got props because producing is better than being an artist.

Warren G: That's my man. nigga came to Brooklyn, he came to check me. He just came to hood and shit, pulled up in a little Crysler, jumped out and Warren G was on the ave. drinking Crazyhorse and shit, you know what I'm saying, cause I ain't gonna lie, I ain't going to his hood, staight up!

Wu-Tang Clan/Method Man: Wu-Tang is hot! I like their shit. I love that shit. I like their shit because they have a real I don't give a shit
attitude. We in this game to blow the fuck up! We don't give a fuck what
happens. All of us is gonna do our thing and we just gonna do it. And
they just did it. You can hear punches, you hear so much shit in that
album you know damn these guys is not giving a fuck. At the beginning of
CREAM, when that shit start!! Voila! Oh my God, this is some rushed shit
but I dig it.

The Roots: The Roots album. The Roots album is hot! On the strength, they rock the whole album for a whole hour. I was definetly in dibelief. I like the single, I really did but other people were like, Single was hot but I wasn't paying attention to the album at all."

 
 
 

slightly foul rating. mostly on point.
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: birdman11 on November 02, 2008, 09:20:56 AM
maybe i'm whack, but i think kurupt is better than will smith
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Crockett on November 02, 2008, 01:14:49 PM
maybe i'm whack, but i think kurupt is better than will smith

lol....

whos big to decide whos good and who aint. il give spice 1 a fuckin 10 and big a fuckin 2 lol at dude thinking hes the bos while he was sucking puffys dick
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Quiksta on November 02, 2008, 07:50:31 PM
i'll try to scan that shit tonight or tomorrow if I can find it

 8)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: birdman11 on November 02, 2008, 10:19:20 PM
i'll try to scan that shit tonight or tomorrow if I can find it

 8)

props i cant wait
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Quiksta on November 03, 2008, 08:34:03 AM


props i cant wait
[/quote]


Can anyone give me a hand, I've scanned it but am unsure how to post the files now?
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: birdman11 on November 03, 2008, 11:24:05 PM
go to insert image, its the icon right above the  ;)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: birdman11 on November 06, 2008, 02:29:49 PM
can someone upload the scans from that book, i've been looking forward to it

Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Quiksta on November 06, 2008, 06:32:42 PM
Can anyone give me a hand, I've scanned it but am unsure how to post the files now?


-upload it on for ex. www.flickr.com .
-Copy the image address
-Paste it [img ]http://post image here[/img] = (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/bbc/img.gif)

 ;)



nice, i will get them up tonight, thanks!
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Quiksta on November 06, 2008, 07:43:26 PM
here is the cover:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/3009638152_90f2013810.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Quiksta on November 06, 2008, 07:44:26 PM
here is page one:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/3009628738_d4ea31dff9.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Quiksta on November 06, 2008, 07:45:10 PM
here is page 2:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3009633492_6269f25103.jpg?v=0)


 8)
Title: Re: Biggie rating West Coast rappers?
Post by: Chad Vader on November 18, 2008, 01:00:00 AM
There's a God on the Mic: The True 50 Greatest MCs Kool Mo Dee
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SZG312QKL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

1. Melle Mel
2. Rakim
3. Krs-One
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. Kool Mo Dee
6. Grandmaster Caz
7. LL Cool J
8. Chuck D
9. Notorious BIG
10. Lauryn Hill
11. Nas
12. Queen Latifah
13. Tupac
14. Kool G Rap
15. Jay-Z
16. Treach
17. Method Man
18. Ice Cube
19. MC Lyte
20. Redman
21. Ras Kass
22. GZA
23. Will Smith
24. Busta Rhymes
25. Heavy D
26. Xzibit
27. Common
28. Pharoahe Monch
29. Black Thought
30. Scarface
31. Kurtis Blow
32. Run
33. Snoop Dogg
34. Guru
35. Ice-T
36. Doug E Fresh
37. Keith Murray
38. Mystikal
39. Kurupt
40. Slick Rick
41. Big Pun
42. Lil Kim
43. MC Shan
44. Craig Mack
45. Jeru The Damaja
46. Fat Joe
47. Spoonie Gee
48. Foxy Brown
49. Mack 10
50. Just-Ice


The book is worth buying
There's a God on the Mic: The True 50 Greatest MCs
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SZG312QKL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
$18.21
http://www.amazon.com/Theres-God-Mic-True-Greatest/dp/1560255331/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225324239&sr=1-1


Scanned the pages about Kurupt;
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Kool Mo Dee rates Snoopīs MIC skills;
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