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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on January 29, 2008, 09:27:54 PM
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I'm going to go ahead and put it out on the line, who my prediction is to win the presidency.
I have to throw a couple different scenarios up, since the primaries are still up in the air.
On the Dem. side, obviously it's only Hillary or Obama.
On the Rep. side, I think it's safe to say it's down to McCain and Romney. McCain is doing surprisingly well, but I wouldn't consider Romney dead in the water yet, SO, with that said...
If McCain wins the GOP nomination, the Democratic nominee will win the presidency, whether it's Hillary or Obama.
If Romney wins the GOP nomination, he will defeat whomever the democratic nominee is.
I would say out of the 4, the strongest candidate is Obama. I cannot count out Clinton though because she basically will do anything short of raising the dead to win. McCain will not garner a majority of republicans votes, many gopers will stay home if he wins because the man is disgusting. Romney has less of a 'negative' association, making him more palatable to republicans that support other candidates; if Romney is the nominee, his policies will lead people who do not like him to vote for him anyways, because he's fundamentally strong on conservative principles and is great in a debate. He's not leading national polls against Obama or Clinton, but doesn't at the present have the name recognition either of them do. In a general election race, however, I think he would solidify the conservative base to show en force against Clinton (who is widely hated) or Obama, (who is widely feared as much more liberal than even Clinton).
McCain, while strong among certain republican groups, will polarize much of the conservatives who will just simply sit home from the polls in the general election out of disgust for both candidates. The democrats will roll to an easy victory (even though national polls show otherwise right now).
That's where my money is right now... I would say if you consider it a 4 way race, I'd put it 40% Obama, 30% Hillary, 20% Romney, and 10% McCain, if that makes any sense. 70% chance we'll have a democratic president in November. Slight chance we'll have Mitt Romney as president, very slim chance we'll have McCain as president. That's my HONEST opinion of how it's going down, but hey, what do I know? :)
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PRESIDENT OBAMA... I'll take this as another endorsment. So that's John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and now Trauma have all endorced Obama. 8)
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OH, and by the way. I've got to try to pick Vice President nominees. That's going to be tough... but I'm going to guess
Obama will choose Edwards as V.p....North/South, White/Black, both have a clean-cut nice guy image this time around, etc. I think it would actually be a REALLY strong ticket.
Hillary will also choose Edwards as V.p.... Or at least, I think that's the smart thing to do. Bill and Hill have been careful to prod up Edwards as a good candidate, probably in a bid to take votes away from Obama. Anybody who runs as the veep behind bill and hill is going to look like a totally useless extension of the presidency since everybody knows Bill will be co-president, but Edwards would love the attention and would gladly take the nomination. I think Edwards has NO PROBLEM being #3, look at where he's ran his whole campaign. Obama isn't going to take a backseat to the Clintons.
I can't see Hillary or Obama picking each other as running mates. Either way I believe Edwards will win the v.p. consideration
None of the candidates running like Romney. If I were Romney, I think I may actually choose Huckabee to be veep. I honestly don't think Fred Thompson wants the job... although him and Romney are similar in political policy. Huckabee comes with problems, but he is a southerner, and Romney is a northeastern 'country club' republican... so that would help draw votes that Romney has trouble reaching. People that don't like Huckabee basically think he's got liberal tendencies, but as veep wouldn't be able to act much on that. Him being onboard wouldn't hurt Romney's base... and would definately help expand it. Huckabee fans are a little rabid as well, and will vote for any ticket with him onboard. Also, this would help Romney get rid of some of the stigma his mormonism poses, to the people it bothers the most: other Christians, who would be pleased with a Huckabee ticket. Finally, Mike Huckabee LOOKS like a veep. Only thing that scares me about that is what happens 4 or 8 years from now when Romney's out?
McCain will likely choose Rudy Guiliani as veep. I think it'll be a bitter pill for Rudy to swallow to take a back seat to McCain, but what can he do? This will shore up McCain's image as a half-assed conservative by putting hard as nails Rudy in... I think this ticket while good on paper would lose to Hillary (whose political shenanigans would eat McCain & Rudy alive) or to Obama (who would just simply be the better candidate of the two in an election). Obama/Edwards would eat McCain/Guiliani for breakfast in a debate, for example.
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PRESIDENT OBAMA... I'll take this as another endorsment. So that's John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and now Trauma have all endorced Obama. 8)
Endorsing means you support them. I do not support Barack Obama. I just think he has a very strong chance of winning. More than any other candidate, actually.
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OH, and by the way. I've got to try to pick Vice President nominees. That's going to be tough... but I'm going to guess
Obama will choose Edwards as V.p....North/South, White/Black, both have a clean-cut nice guy image this time around, etc. I think it would actually be a REALLY strong ticket.
Hillary will also choose Edwards as V.p.... Or at least, I think that's the smart thing to do. Bill and Hill have been careful to prod up Edwards as a good candidate, probably in a bid to take votes away from Obama. Anybody who runs as the veep behind bill and hill is going to look like a totally useless extension of the presidency since everybody knows Bill will be co-president, but Edwards would love the attention and would gladly take the nomination. I think Edwards has NO PROBLEM being #3, look at where he's ran his whole campaign. Obama isn't going to take a backseat to the Clintons.
I can't see Hillary or Obama picking each other as running mates. Either way I believe Edwards will win the v.p. consideration
None of the candidates running like Romney. If I were Romney, I think I may actually choose Huckabee to be veep. I honestly don't think Fred Thompson wants the job... although him and Romney are similar in political policy. Huckabee comes with problems, but he is a southerner, and Romney is a northeastern 'country club' republican... so that would help draw votes that Romney has trouble reaching. People that don't like Huckabee basically think he's got liberal tendencies, but as veep wouldn't be able to act much on that. Him being onboard wouldn't hurt Romney's base... and would definately help expand it. Huckabee fans are a little rabid as well, and will vote for any ticket with him onboard. Also, this would help Romney get rid of some of the stigma his mormonism poses, to the people it bothers the most: other Christians, who would be pleased with a Huckabee ticket. Finally, Mike Huckabee LOOKS like a veep. Only thing that scares me about that is what happens 4 or 8 years from now when Romney's out?
McCain will likely choose Rudy Guiliani as veep. I think it'll be a bitter pill for Rudy to swallow to take a back seat to McCain, but what can he do? This will shore up McCain's image as a half-assed conservative by putting hard as nails Rudy in... I think this ticket while good on paper would lose to Hillary (whose political shenanigans would eat McCain & Rudy alive) or to Obama (who would just simply be the better candidate of the two in an election). Obama/Edwards would eat McCain/Guiliani for breakfast in a debate, for example.
I've been thinking about this too, I know two that I'm almost certain will happen, but who knows.
Democrats:
Hillary Clinton/??
Asked me last month, I'd say Richardson, but Richardson telling his voters to pick Obama second in Iowa rubbed Bill the wrong way, as Bill was reportedly mad that Richardson double crossed the Clinton's afte Bill gave him his job in the US in the 90's. I wouldn't count Edwards out, but it is Edwards who started the fighting with Hillary in the first place.
Barack Obama/John Edwards
This is a no brainer. They've double teamed Hillary at times, and both claim the politics of hope.
Republicans
Mitt Romney/John McCain
I said it. This would be the perfect balanced ticket for the GOP, and would unite the party after a brutal battle.
John McCain/ Mike Huckabee
No brainer, McCain needs the support of Evangelicas, and Huckabee and McCain have traded some humor to each other and don't seem at all hostel.
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Obama will be the next US President.
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If republicans don't dig McCain, how come he won Florida, a state in which only registered republicans can vote in republican primaries?
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On the Dem. side, obviously it's only Hillary or Obama.
On the Rep. side, I think it's safe to say it's down to McCain and Romney.
Youre an absolute genius. Your fore sight, and analytical skills, inspire awe
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unfortunately all garbage candidates
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If republicans don't dig McCain, how come he won Florida, a state in which only registered republicans can vote in republican primaries?
He won 36% of the republican, primary vote in Florida. 50% of primary dems voted for Hillary. Primary voters are typically the ones that are 'plugged in' and give a shit, there is nothing about John McCain that will inspire people outside of the 'plugged in' republicans to show up and vote. So he's got a third of republican voters willing to vote for him, many of the other two thirds will simply sit it out. Hillary and Barack have an entire movement of people ready and willing to support either of them, and they both actually inspire people that would normally not vote to vote. Nothing about John McCain is inspiring, and the only people that will vote for him are the people that are truly concerned about politics. More than half the country couldn't give a fuck less;... so ultimately, the democrat nominee will be much more inspiring and get ordinary people who don't vote to show up and vote democrat. McCain will get his buddies to show up and that's it. I'd say 65/35 democrat if McCain is the nominee in the general election.
It's not over yet, though, Romney may pull off a mormon miracle. If Romney comes out with the gloves off, and pulls some sort of surprise like naming New Gingrich or Fred Thompson as his running mate, THIS WEEK, then he may still be able to turn it around. If he destroys McCain in the debate tonight, he may turn it around. If McCain gets cocky (since he is a cocky son of a bitch) and says something stupid, Romney may be able to capitalize. If things keep going as they're going though, McCain gets the nomination.
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I hear Giuliani is going to endorse McCain, but maybe that is going to hurt him more than it's going to help. Giuliani is a fucking scumbag, but that is not even the point I'm trying to make. The thing is, he basically dissed all the people who live in the states that voted in the primaries before Florida. Then he clearly lost in Florida. And that is after not too long ago he was known as the most likely guy to become president. Wow. I wouldn't want to be backed by such a loser if I were McCain.
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Things are looking very bad for Romney. McCain, although a complete fraud, has seemed to trick people. How could anyone like him? The way he talks, the things he says. It's really border line idiotic. He can't run the country. He has no experience managing or leading anything. He's a 71 year old senator.
McCain will lose, no matter what, to the democrats. McCain will never choose Romney as a VP. He'll choose Rudy.
Romney on the other hand could beat the democrats. If he picks a good running mate, he could take over. Romney Huckabee would be a good choice.
The real problem is an Obama and Hillary ticket, either way around. These two together on one ticket is unbeatable. But, they hate each other, and likely Hillary wouldn't pick Obama, and Obama wouldn't accept.
Ron Paul is the smartest guy up their. He's too smart for his own good.
The thing is people respect McCain. I don't really see why. He's got all the endorsements, he won Florida. How can McCain lose? He will, against Hillary or Obama.
McCain with anyone will lose. Most americans don't like huckabee's positions. He is too religious. Changing the constitution to make God's standards? That is crazy.
At least with Romney the GOP has a chance. Anyone else, they've lost the election even before it starts. The Economy and Immigration are the only issues which should be debated. Abortion will never be banned. The Iraq war was a mistake. Really, the US needs to choose the best leader of the US, not the best police officer of the planet.
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My prediction is that R.U.F. will take over AmeriKKa eventually, so it really doesn't matter because the Yakub Crew's days are numbered.
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I'm going to go ahead and put it out on the line, who my prediction is to win the presidency.
I have to throw a couple different scenarios up, since the primaries are still up in the air.
On the Dem. side, obviously it's only Hillary or Obama.
On the Rep. side, I think it's safe to say it's down to McCain and Romney. McCain is doing surprisingly well, but I wouldn't consider Romney dead in the water yet, SO, with that said...
If McCain wins the GOP nomination, the Democratic nominee will win the presidency, whether it's Hillary or Obama.
If Romney wins the GOP nomination, he will defeat whomever the democratic nominee is.
I would say out of the 4, the strongest candidate is Obama. I cannot count out Clinton though because she basically will do anything short of raising the dead to win. McCain will not garner a majority of republicans votes, many gopers will stay home if he wins because the man is disgusting. Romney has less of a 'negative' association, making him more palatable to republicans that support other candidates; if Romney is the nominee, his policies will lead people who do not like him to vote for him anyways, because he's fundamentally strong on conservative principles and is great in a debate. He's not leading national polls against Obama or Clinton, but doesn't at the present have the name recognition either of them do. In a general election race, however, I think he would solidify the conservative base to show en force against Clinton (who is widely hated) or Obama, (who is widely feared as much more liberal than even Clinton).
McCain, while strong among certain republican groups, will polarize much of the conservatives who will just simply sit home from the polls in the general election out of disgust for both candidates. The democrats will roll to an easy victory (even though national polls show otherwise right now).
That's where my money is right now... I would say if you consider it a 4 way race, I'd put it 40% Obama, 30% Hillary, 20% Romney, and 10% McCain, if that makes any sense. 70% chance we'll have a democratic president in November. Slight chance we'll have Mitt Romney as president, very slim chance we'll have McCain as president. That's my HONEST opinion of how it's going down, but hey, what do I know? :)
Well pussylips, I'm glad you're back here. Now you clearly picked Hillary like a week or two ago, and you only pick winners, so that is your pick. I know your little bitch tendancies would like to pick someone else now that it looks like you'll be wrong.
And another truly bold statement saying that the GOP nomination will come down to McCain and Romney. Goddamn you're bringing the exclusives on that shit.
My prediction is that 2008 will come and go and you still will have never caressed a vagina (your dog doesn't count).
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My prediction is that 2008 will come and go and you still will have never caressed a vagina (your dog doesn't count).
Yeah, I said the same thing to him a while back...
I do think it's possible he's caressed some dicks, though.
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i wouldn't be suprized to see romney mccain, i mean, mccain and gulliani makes no sense, they will never win, they are like the 2 craziest anti middle east guys and wont win, mccain needs romney for the economic issues and romney needs mccain for millitary, i think if they are together they will win, i do agree with you trauama, if mccain is the nominee he loses if its romney he wins,
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You probably aren't a republican, and that's fine... but if you were, you'd know that John McCain is a bastard who cannot STAND Mitt Romney. McCain will never, ever want Romney as a veep. In case you haven't been watching what's going on.... 3 days before the Florida Primary, McCain (who bitched and moaned that George Bush pulled dirty attack ads to defeat him in South Carolina in 2000) put out a press statement saying that Romney said in April 07 that he was for a timetable to pull troops out.
After reviewing what Romney said in the interview in April 07, it was clear to everybody that he didn't say that. He said that There should be no timetable proclaimed in public, and that you don't want to do that since the enemy would just lie in wait in the bushes until you left. He said that he would veto any bill calling for a timetable for troop withdraw, and mentioned that of course Bush and the pres. of Iraq would have private conversations about timetables and milestones, but they couldn't publicly anounce them.
Last night in the debate, McCain actually said something to the effect of "Romney wants them to lie in the bushes until we leave!!!!"
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It's just a complete mischaracterization of what he said, he's claiming Romney said exactly what he said NOT to do in the interview! It's just incredible.
John McCain is a complete loser who hasn't got a fucking thing accomplished except destroying the first ammendment with McCain Feingold. His Amnesty Bill with Kennedy was a complete joke, he wanted to give a 3000 dollar citizenship visa to any illegal immigrant, and when asked now if he would vote for that bill, says "It won't come to a vote". "yeah, but would you vote for it, Senator?" "It won't come to a vote".
He's a total prick who's lying about the best candidate in the field, and the American GOP is stupid enough to fall for it because they have their panties in a wad about who's going to beat Hillary Clinton. In national polls, McCain is tracking to be able to beat Clinton, or Obama.
Here's the problem with that; McCain has been a senator for 25 years. His name is in the press all the time, mainly because he has a hardon for showboating and naming bills after himself. The average idiot knows his name, and knows he was in a war, and is considered a war hero. Mitt Romney doesn't have the luxury of name recognition, the only people that know ANYTHING about him are people that actually looked at his record and researched the man. By November, in a general election Romney would be in the media constantly, and his record would be on display for everybody to decide, and he would simply defeat whoever the Democrat candidate is. Barack Obama has nothing to offer America but platitudes. Hillary Clinton would be a disasterous president and even her own party knows it.
I would much rather vote for Obama or Clinton than McCain. At least after they trash the country for 4 years, a republican can ride along to save the day. If McCain's elected, he'll be disasterous and we won't even be able to run against him in 4 years.
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they are all shmucks as far as i can see, and i know they arent getting along now, but if mccain chooses gulliani, i think that would be the stupidests move ever, also if hillary or obama take edwards, ill be pissed off cause i dont like him at all
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The 44th President of the United States of America = The Senator from Illinois
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John McCain is a complete loser who hasn't got a fucking thing accomplished except destroying the first ammendment with McCain Feingold.
Great post man. I agree McCain won't choose Romney, which is a huge mistake. McCain has little money, but has the momentum and endorsements. Romney has little momentum, and no endorsements, but a lot of money. Romney has raised more money then all other GOP candidates. He obviously has a loyal following, and has deep pockets. Obama and Clinton can rack up hundreds of millions if they needed too. McCain can't raise anything. McCain needs someone who has, and can raise money, if he can compete with the democrats.
McCain is, a total, and utter loser. Every question he answers the same way, "I was in the war." Americans don't want the war. McCain can't take democrats away, or moderate republicans.
This election really determines the future of each party. And the GOP wants to pick a 71 year old war vet? Seriously now. Something was said on the debate last night which made a lot of sense. Governors are more qualified to be President then Senators. What do senators do? They vote on things. What do Governors do? They actually run a state, a "mini country." McCain isn't qualified. I'd take Huckabee over McCain.
And about all these endorsements. The first thing we always here is, "McCain is a dear old friend." Wow, McCain who's been in the Senate for decades is getting endorsements from his friends. What accomplishment is that?
I really don't see how anyone with half a brain could vote for McCain. He is not qualified. He hasn't lead anything in his life. He's a old man who votes for bills . How does that qualify you for even bagging groceries? Let alone running an entire country. Electing someone who's entire character is based upon war is idiotic. The economy should be the number one issue a thousand times over. Forget Romney's CEO experience, he was a govenor. He knows how to run a government. McCain is an old, hopefully dieing man. He is a joke, and a very negative person. His tone is depressing. His age is depressing. Everything about him screams "Loser." And yet, people vote for him.
Saying that, Feb 5th is too close for Romney or Huckabee to do any damage. The one thing they could do is, Huckabee drops out, and Romney endorses him as his VP candidate. If Romney and Huckabee somehow joined forces, McCain will lose. Huckabee can take the South, Romney the north west and north east, and let McCain win California and New York.
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Crazy how 6 percent in Florida can change everything ... are many Americans on Super Tuesday just going to vote for McCain cause he won Florida? Lol, sometimes it seems like that when I hear people talking on CNN. What the fuck is that kind of behavior? Florida only had 57 delegates, Romney could easily still win if people were voting for him on Super Tuesday, and apparently they would if only he had won Florida, lol. That's just weird.
"Who are you going to vote for on Super Tuesday, John?"
"The guy who wins Florida."
"Cool, me too."
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Crazy how 6 percent in Florida can change everything ... are many Americans on Super Tuesday just going to vote for McCain cause he won Florida? Lol, sometimes it seems like that when I hear people talking on CNN. What the fuck is that kind of behavior? Florida only had 57 delegates, Romney could easily still win if people were voting for him on Super Tuesday, and apparently they would if only he had won Florida, lol. That's just weird.
"Who are you going to vote for on Super Tuesday, John?"
"The guy who wins Florida."
"Cool, me too."
Yeah it's pretty hilarious how people just get brainwashed so easily. It's kinda like sports, a lot of people decide to pick a team that has momentum on their side. The sad thing is that this same logic is applied to politics.
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Crazy how 6 percent in Florida can change everything ... are many Americans on Super Tuesday just going to vote for McCain cause he won Florida? Lol, sometimes it seems like that when I hear people talking on CNN. What the fuck is that kind of behavior? Florida only had 57 delegates, Romney could easily still win if people were voting for him on Super Tuesday, and apparently they would if only he had won Florida, lol. That's just weird.
"Who are you going to vote for on Super Tuesday, John?"
"The guy who wins Florida."
"Cool, me too."
Yeah it's pretty hilarious how people just get brainwashed so easily. It's kinda like sports, a lot of people decide to pick a team that has momentum on their side. The sad thing is that this same logic is applied to politics.
Yup and the media doesn't help
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Crazy how 6 percent in Florida can change everything ... are many Americans on Super Tuesday just going to vote for McCain cause he won Florida? Lol, sometimes it seems like that when I hear people talking on CNN. What the fuck is that kind of behavior? Florida only had 57 delegates, Romney could easily still win if people were voting for him on Super Tuesday, and apparently they would if only he had won Florida, lol. That's just weird.
"Who are you going to vote for on Super Tuesday, John?"
"The guy who wins Florida."
"Cool, me too."
It is ridiculous isn't it? One state changes everything. McCain barely won New Hamsphire, and barely won South Carolina as well. Romney dominated his wins on the other hand. The problem with Romney though is, he spend too much money on negative ads on his opponents, and not enough ads on himself. If he would've promoted his record, and his experience, the race should of been over. The other problem is the sheer number of GOP candidates which were in the race.
Florida doesn't mean much. But Rudy's endorsement will likely win him New York, and Arnold's endorsement in California. These endorsements McCain is pilling up is really hurting this race. The media is obsessed with them, and it poisons the voters mind. Who the hell cares if Rudy endorses McCain. The media acts like it does, so McCain gets double the coverage.
The winner take all rule is really stupid. McCain gets 3% more, and gets all the delegates? How does that make sense? All states should be the same. If Florida, NY, California and half the other states weren't WTA, Romney would win, hands down. WTA does not make sense for a primary.
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Crazy how 6 percent in Florida can change everything ... are many Americans on Super Tuesday just going to vote for McCain cause he won Florida? Lol, sometimes it seems like that when I hear people talking on CNN. What the fuck is that kind of behavior? Florida only had 57 delegates, Romney could easily still win if people were voting for him on Super Tuesday, and apparently they would if only he had won Florida, lol. That's just weird.
"Who are you going to vote for on Super Tuesday, John?"
"The guy who wins Florida."
"Cool, me too."
I mean look at the dumbfucks we have on here that routinely change who they are voting for based on who the front runner is at the time. Groupie ass motherfuckers.
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If Clinton gets the nom, a Republican will win. That's the only prediction I will make.
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^ I think i agree, but a clinton-mccain, would just be the gayest thing in the world, i would refuse to vote
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If it comes down to Clinton/McCain, Clinton will win. John McCain is a fucking idiot. Hillary Clinton will eat him alive in a debate... of course I guess that doesn't matter since Mitt Romney's been beating McCain's ass in every debate and is still losing.
George Bush - Governor
Bill Clinton - Governor
George H.W. Bush - Veep
Ronald Reagan - Governor
Jimmy Carter - Governor
Gerald Ford - Veep
Richard Nixon - Former Veep
Lyndon B. Johnson - Former Veep
John Kennedy - Senator. The last senator elected to the office of president was in 1960. Typically, senators become vice president and then succeed their predecessor in office. While it's unfair of course to lump Kennedy and Johnson in the crowd, senators also do not enjoy long terms. With the exception of Carter (a horrible president by any standard) most Governors enjoy double terms.
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This is how its going to be, it was written. Hillary = President and Obama= vice president. respect the GOD
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This is how its going to be, it was written. Hillary = President and Obama= vice president. respect the GOD
I think Bill Clinton has a better shot at VP than Obama is Hillary wins.
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This is how its going to be, it was written. Hillary = President and Obama= vice president. respect the GOD
I think Bill Clinton has a better shot at VP than Obama is Hillary wins.
Nah, Bill will make an excellent First Lady.
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This is how its going to be, it was written. Hillary = President and Obama= vice president. respect the GOD
I think Bill Clinton has a better shot at VP than Obama is Hillary wins.
Bill could possibly be her running mate, but there'd be grounds for a constitutional objection that would have to go all the way to the Supreme Court if he was picked as her running mate. The Constitution says that Nobody can serve as Veep that can't qualify as president.... and then another ammendement says that nobody can be elected to more than two terms. That would constitutionally say that Bill couldn't be elected veep since he constitutionally can't serve another term, but you could take it to court and say that if he was Hillary's successor, he wouldn't be elected but would be appointed. It'd go to the supreme court and by that time Barack Obama would have won.
I think Hillary would choose Edwards as her running mate, although he's saying he wouldn't take the job.
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I see Hillary picking old Clinton loyalist, like Wesley Clark, as VP, with the possiblity of maybe Jim Webb if she wants to step out that circle. I don't see her picking Obama. Obama on the other hand I see picking Edwards, and if Edwards rejects you could possibly see Ted Kennedy, or one of his supporters this year.
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Wow, Ted Kennedy as Veep. Actually, I *MIGHT* Vote for McCain if the alternative included Ted Kennedy.
At least when McCain murdered people, they weren't women and he was actively involved in a war.
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I think Obama/Edwards would be a very strong ticket that would easily cruise to the white house. Unless they were up against Mitt Romney, who would crush them psychologically.
Obama/Edwards is *perfeeeeect* though. Think about it, you've got one from the north, one from the south, you've got Edwards "I"m a poor guy worth 200 million dollars" vs. Obama's "I'm a black man that acts white" combined together, they'd cover all the bases.
I love Obama, I have no problems with the man, but I swear to god I heard his wife on television last night saying that she feels bad for the people out there that can't make it to their daughter's ballet class because they have to worry about losing their job and how they're going to eat that week.
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Who the hell is in poverty, AND going to Ballet lessons? I think that shows that she's a lilllllll out of touch with your average sista from the hood, but I think their intentions are well placed and they'd be a fresh presidency like we haven't seen in years. Since Reagan, he was the last to do things differerent. Before him, Kennedy.
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Wow, Ted Kennedy as Veep. Actually, I *MIGHT* Vote for McCain if the alternative included Ted Kennedy.
At least when McCain murdered people, they weren't women and he was actively involved in a war.
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I think Obama/Edwards would be a very strong ticket that would easily cruise to the white house. Unless they were up against Mitt Romney, who would crush them psychologically.
Obama/Edwards is *perfeeeeect* though. Think about it, you've got one from the north, one from the south, you've got Edwards "I"m a poor guy worth 200 million dollars" vs. Obama's "I'm a black man that acts white" combined together, they'd cover all the bases.
I love Obama, I have no problems with the man, but I swear to god I heard his wife on television last night saying that she feels bad for the people out there that can't make it to their daughter's ballet class because they have to worry about losing their job and how they're going to eat that week.
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Who the hell is in poverty, AND going to Ballet lessons? I think that shows that she's a lilllllll out of touch with your average sista from the hood, but I think their intentions are well placed and they'd be a fresh presidency like we haven't seen in years. Since Reagan, he was the last to do things differerent. Before him, Kennedy.
I still think Obama will go with Edwards, but rumor is that Edwards is turning down VP offers for right now. His not allowing the, endorse me and you'll be VP, talk be what defines him in 2008. His more interested in his issues, and right now Obama is closer to him in that aspect. Also, he might not go with Obama unless he toughen up with Hillary. Edwards has attacked Hillary more than Obama in this campaign, and is wanting Obama to do the same.
As for right now, I actually think Hillary is still the odds on favorite to win. I say it will be Clinton/Clark in the White House, 2008, you heard it here first.
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So one day before the big day, what's the atmosphere in the country like? Is McCain already perceived as the winner? Is Hillary having the edge over Obama?
Due to the WTA mentality in the republican primaries one can be pretty sure that it's over after Tuesday. With McCain being endorsed by all those assholes who kinda represent the big WTA states, I have a hard time imagining McCain losing.
I think the democratic race will go beyond Super Tuesday.
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So one day before the big day, what's the atmosphere in the country like? Is McCain already perceived as the winner? Is Hillary having the edge over Obama?
Due to the WTA mentality in the republican primaries one can be pretty sure that it's over after Tuesday. With McCain being endorsed by all those assholes who kinda represent the big WTA states, I have a hard time imagining McCain losing.
I think the democratic race will go beyond Super Tuesday.
If Obama manages to take California, then it will be over on Super Tuesday. There are some polls that have it pretty close.
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Isn't it basically all about California now?
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How come that California is so important when it's not a WTA state for the democrats? I have a hard time thinking Obama will win Cali. I've heard most hispanics don't dig blacks, and dedicated catholics as a whole seem to prefer her over Obama... knowing how many hispanics live in California, I see good chances for Hillary to win.
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So one day before the big day, what's the atmosphere in the country like? Is McCain already perceived as the winner? Is Hillary having the edge over Obama?
Due to the WTA mentality in the republican primaries one can be pretty sure that it's over after Tuesday. With McCain being endorsed by all those assholes who kinda represent the big WTA states, I have a hard time imagining McCain losing.
I think the democratic race will go beyond Super Tuesday.
I don't know much about the dem. race, but the republican race is not over by a long shot. For one, Mitt Romney apparently is doing well in California, with some polls showing him 8 points ahead. If Mitt wins California, it's most definately not over. Mitt's favored to win Utah and Massachusets, and has a good shot in some other small states. Plus, McCain is a SERIOUSLY flawed candidate that many, many republicans can't stand. So even if Romney loses big tommorow, he'll still be in the race as the only viable alternative. Nearly EVERY conservative can't stand McCain, there's a huge base that wants somebody else to win. That will likely have some effect. The Romney thing is starting to look like Reagan's campaigns in the past, actually. Only problem is Reagan lost the first campaign :(
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The way the polls are going, if Clinton takes California the race will still be undecided.
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The way the polls are going, if Clinton takes California the race will still be undecided.
and thats what happened
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:o Patti Solis Doyle resigned today, lol. Things are looking better for Obama.
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The way the polls are going, if Clinton takes California the race will still be undecided.
and thats what happened
Obama sweeps 4 states, with DC, Virgina and Maryland looking very promising, and Wisconsin and Hawaii up after that before heading into Ohio and Texas. Hillary can make a stand in Wisconsin, but if she can win Hawaii I will offical erase my account.
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pretty cool map of this primary so far.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Democratic_Primary_Results.png)
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Why'd they put the black guy on the bottom to make room for the white guy nobodys' ever heard of? RACISM They won't let a nigga get his due.
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Why'd they put the black guy on the bottom to make room for the white guy nobodys' ever heard of? RACISM They won't let a nigga get his due.
Respect for Gravel... dude put it down in the 70's to end the draft... so it's all respect.
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Respect at what cost? HOLD THA BLACK MAN DOWN? Look @ what the fuck they did. They moved the front runner out of the spot next to the white woman because he's black. Everybody knows the biggest way racism played out in the 1800's was fear of what a potent black man would do to a defenseless white woman. THIS IS RACIST AND I DEMAND SOMEBODY BE FIRED
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Respect at what cost? HOLD THA BLACK MAN DOWN? Look @ what the fuck they did. They moved the front runner out of the spot next to the white woman because he's black. Everybody knows the biggest way racism played out in the 1800's was fear of what a potent black man would do to a defenseless white woman. THIS IS RACIST AND I DEMAND SOMEBODY BE FIRED
OK... I guess... lol.... I'm Mexican so I guess I'm part of the problem so I'll fire myself.